@MusicPeaceArt and @MrBilgey - Zappa said in an interview from around 1970 or so that The Shaggs' Philosophy of the World was his favorite album ever.
I'll be honest, the animation is fun but viewing it without the animation is SO much better. You can actually construct a pattern to to the song in your head. The cartoon makes it a mockery regardless of how you interpret it, even if it was meant as a compliment.
when i heard this on the radio i just died of laughter my mom was like what are you laughing about ? i was like are you not listening to the radio? shes like oh dear god an hour later my grand ma was like whats so funny? so i showed her this she died of laughter
@SalemStudios These girls were not "ritch". They were extremely poor. They've lived their entire lives in rural New Hampshire. Their father cleaned smokestacks I believe, to support them and their two brothers. His father forced them to do everything, recorded them before they were ready. These shy girls played every weekend at a theater. The whole town came, at first mostly to throw things. But they did improve. And they always stayed to clean the theater...it's still standing.
@TheMagmagoblin Oh well thats what my audio teacher was telling me, thank you for a telling the actual truth. I guess I will prove him wrong hahaha, but im glad they got good. :)
like all music, which means you're tapping into someone's "taste", you either like something or you don't. i think these girls were not so very talented, but they play their music with an innocent kind of abandon, which i really like. it sounds like little kids playing in the sandbox - those are nice sounds. we are so sanitized by pop music and its penchant for making things sound "perfect" that this kind of music just sounds wrong. however you slice it - i love it.
Can someone explain to me HOW they are talented? Don't take that the wrong way, I'm genuinely curious what others find to be talented writing.
I only bring this up because...well, when I first picked up a guitar and didn't know what I was doing it sounded like this. I could write this. You could write this. Someone could record their cat or dog walking on a guitar and loop it...and you would have noise. Add some simplistic lyrics that are almost nonsensical and its genius? I'm not convinced yet
I like the Shaggs. I couldn't care less if anyone else approves of me liking them or not. My favorite Shaggs songs are My Pal Foot Foot and It's Halloween.
For those who don't like the Shaggs I suggest not listening to them.
This is possibly the worst collaboration of a horribly tuned drum kit, a horribly tuned guitar, and a trio of women who obviously either belong in a facility for the mentally challenged or in hospital getting tests done on their apparently broken brains.
What's even worse is the fans of this trio... it's really quite creepy to see people praise what is nothing more than a group of mentally challenged children pick up some instruments and spew out a garbage heap of noise.
Wow!! Someone else who cannot see the mysterious cosmic beauty of untrained children slaughtering badly written songs with clueless playing and ghastly singing!
I think it's strange that people vehemently dislike The Shaggs. I mean when I listen to them, the poor (and to some extent just weird) musicianship is kind of an afterthought, just some strange quirk that doesn't drastically alter the quality of it. The vocals and lyrics are what get me, they had really unique ideas for vocal melodies that sound strangely contemporary. Their music was sort of like weird, disturbingly honest camp songs.
The only difference between them and Coltrane is that Coltrane was an incredibly talented performer who digressed into wider forms to make a point, while The Shaggs were amateurish at best, tho they also tried a unique aproach free of conventionalisms to make their own point too.
I kind of "Get It":has anyone listened to John Coltrane's "Interstellar Space"? that's called FREE JAZZ.From what I can infer these girls have consistent patterns in their compositions(guitar imitates lyrics,drum is way off all the time,sometimes both guitar intertwines for brief periods,the same way lead singing and backup did). I would say what they did with this 60's pop rock style they grew up with was the same John Coltrane did to average jazz,therefore I would call this music FREE POP ROCK
@argadipa I will have to vehemently disagree with that. These girls just flat out suck. Their dad just handed them instruments and told them to play because his mother read his palm and said they would form a band and become famous. Go figure, as soon as he died, they stopped playing. They just did it to appease him. One big mistake.
i can't believe so many stupid people in these comments can't understand the basic concept of why the shaggs are a cool thing hahahaha. have you not a single empathetic bone in your body you huge idiot internet losers. what is wrong with you. what an easy target to say all your internet obscenities at. it's just unbelievable, such aggression towards such a simple event. don't some of you like daniel johnston. good lord. hideous. hideous! hideous internet men!
I will give you credit: at least you don't censor negative comments. I HATE overly sensitive pricks who cannot deal with negative comments. (Warm pat on the back.)
The most bizarre thing about this band is the people who like their music. They are totally delusional, and actually a bit arrogant. They claim that they can somehow hear deeply beautiful and mystical things in this crap that mere mortals cannot. For some reason they are easily offended when you point out that this is just lousy music played by inept girls who cannot sing.
@EdiblePlanets I like that you use Adam Ant as your face for Youtube. He rules! But I'm disappointed by your comments. It seems Adam still has things to teach you.
OK, please enlighten me . . . The connection between Adam Ant and the Shaggs is . . .? If you are trying to say that the Shaggs embody the "punk ethic" or something like that, I don't buy it. There was always some talent with the better punk bands. Even if someone was hired mostly for their appearance (Sid Vicious) he was still backed up by good musicians. Those who equate the Shaggs with punk, or any musical movement, are reaching way to far. Sometimes crap is simply crap.
@mrsticker2 And there's really no artistically deep meaning to these songs. It was really just what it sounds like. Girls forced into a band at their father's wishes. They didn't plan some sophisticated mind blast or anything.
@EdiblePlanets lol well, I do love to sing, and I AM MUCH better than they were (that does not take much) but my dad -- their cousin-- actually had a band with some of his friends, though the friends were kind of flakes and it did not go anywhere.. shame, because he really could have.
Some people would say the same thing about pop music. It's just a matter of taste. When these girls sing, they sing from their own point of view. And Justin Bieber's point of view is not automatically more valid because he sings better or is better looking or more popular. There's a sadness and a worldliness in this music that Justin will not be able to convey until he is old and bald and washed up and no one listens to him anymore.
I am not judging them as people. I am judging them as musicians . . . and as musicians they are horrible. I have no use for Bieber and GaGa either; however, I have to acknowledge that they have some talent, or at least surround themselves with talented musicians and producers. OK, let's say these girls are "honest". I think honesty is an element of art, but not every honest attempt at art results in art. Sometimes it just results in a mess. I give you the Shaggs.
@EdiblePlanets No body is arguing that this isn't a mess. But you seem to feel that you are uniquely qualified to determine what is and is not "art". Let me ask you this - if you have no regard for this music, why spend your time and energy trying to convince other people it is not worth listening to? Could it be that you feel insecure that other people are finding something in this music that you are unable to find?
@Bobbynles Reasonable minds can disagree on what is art. This is beyond that. It's like taking a child's finger painting and calling it art. If your definition of "art" is broad enough to cover the finger painting - and if it is broad enough to cover whatever sounds these girls are producing - then the word has lost all meaning. You don't need an expert to reach that conclusion.
As you may know, Adam and the Ants featured two drummers. If these girls added a second drummer you would have a total of four different songs played at the same time. My ears bleed.
I wonder how many people like this band just because they were fooled by Zappa and Cobain talking bullshit.
As for me. I trust my own judgment,and I know crap when I hear it.
@EdiblePlanets Honestly, yeah, it's bad, but I can't say I don't enjoy it in a way, because it's really sort of pure. It's like it's written by 3-year-olds. It's really pretty amazing that these girls grew up and listened to music and put together a band, and learned nothing about how to do it right, or even how to fake it. They are somehow completely untainted by the boring lame poser-ness most awful artists end up exhibiting. They're authentic. And that's what makes them interesting.
Heard ya the first time. I'm not "mean". Since when is calling crap crap mean? I'm just being honest. The mean one is the girls' father. He's the jerk who forced them to play despite their obvious lack of desire and talent.
@EdiblePlanets Well said, They pat themselves on the back saying they get it and you don't so they are somehow better and smarter the you. Bawaaaa.
Zappa was having a laugh people, don't be so fucking stupid to think he ACTUALY thought the Shaggs were IN FACT better than the Beatles, I mean are you really that fucking stupid?
@EdiblePlanets That's what gives me a pain in the ass.I bought Philosphy Of The World as a kid.It just makes me laugh to this day.People have to complicate everything though,pretentious twats.
@EdiblePlanets If you'd ever been around a recording studio you would love The Shaggs (in a quasi ironic way, but with the emphasis on the quasi). It's not the music or vocals although those are... charming. It's the sonic colour of the instrumentation and the recording medium, also it's made by magic recording elves. It's a bizarre parody of 60's pop music that's actually kinda neat given a second listen. As is you're just an angry music nerd who resents people's taste. Enjoy your "life."
@EdiblePlanets I think the moral was that even though they had no musical talent, these girls did what they did for their father. That takes dedication.
@EdiblePlanets I agree, MrSticker. Edible is clearly learning-challenged, and on many levels. He/she is taking this music at face value, and doesnt seem to understand that it's infinitely more then the simple sum of it's parts. The Shaggs are quite possibly the most profoundly and overwhelmingly talented artists North America has ever seen, and by a wide margin. It's understandable though, that the mindless hoards wouldnt understand or appreciate them...that is the environment in which we live.
@EdiblePlanets But dont take my word for it, listen to what John Lennon said about them, just months before his unfortunate death: "yes, I have heard The Shaggs, and their angelic voices, lyrical poetry, and musical prowess made me ashamed. They were born far too late." Take THAT, haters! And what about Bob Dylan: "The Shaggs inherently have, what many of us have worked our entire lifetimes to achieve, I dont know if there's a proper word for that intangible characteristic, but they have it."
@eggbertsmith Apparently they didn't know they had it, either, because, again, the ONLY reason these girls started playing was because the father was told through a friggin' palmreading, that his daughters would form some amazing rock group. "What many of us work our entire lifetimes to achieve" was most likely "actual passion and reason for doing what we do" which was out of love for their father, instead of what most artists played for: money, fame, success.
@EdiblePlanets And lastly, I must quote a line from my proctologist, who said: "The Shaggs music, is not unlike a colonoscopy for the soul, it really lets you know who you are". What a wise individual!
@EdiblePlanets well i wouldnt say that they were good but i think they have some beautiful moments. plus a lot of people who really are great musicians but are unconventional get dismissed by some people because of those peoples inability to think outside of the box. so i would say that a lot of people who think that their was nothing at all compelling about the shaggs might also write off some actual geniuses because they make uncconvential music. ex. derek bailey
@EdiblePlanets That may be but it's not just bad music, it's probably the worst and weirdest music. Take this song for example, everything about the music itself is bad but the lyrics are horrifyingly strange. It makes people wonder what the hell these girls were thinking. Nobody (not even Rebecca Black) has ever created music this demented, and that's why some enjoy it. Nobody is worse than The Shaggs and that's why we love them.
I've got no problem liking something for it's shear awfulness. Even I feel drawn to it - like a grizzly accident scene. My problem is that some people actually think there is something very good going on here. And they are quite jerky when you disagree and point out the obviously terrible nature of the sounds these girls are creating.
@EdiblePlanets Don't you find it interesting that these girls dreamed of being rock stars in the late 60s, were very proud of their music, and even found a way to release it? They were the first of the worst of the worst. They supposedly even influenced Frank Zappa, which I could believe.
@EdiblePlanets Don't get it? Too bad for you. There is plenty of formulaic plastic music for your plastic life. I don't have to tell you to stay in your box because you wouldn't dream of leaving. You wouldn't dream at all.
@Notecrusher Brilliant. I am a plastic man who stays in my plastic box. (Sort of like the Kinks song, huh?) Ok. But at least I know what crap sounds like when I hear it. You are delusional if you think you are hearing anything else.
@EdiblePlanets Are you actually saying impossible to really like their music? For me it's something about how technically bad it is that makes me like it. It sounds different, and it's kinda refreshing. I doubt that many people who like The Shaggs like them because there is something hard to understand about their music, or "mystical" or whatever.
@EdiblePlanets It's not just that it's bad, it's that its "badness" makes it different, and I like it because it sounds like no other music I'm gonna hear. I don't think they were musical geniuses or anything like that, but what came from their effort, although a failure at what they were probably shooting for, is interesting and enjoyable because it's so odd. The lyrics and their voices make them sound naive and innocent, and the music is kinda charming because of that.
@EdiblePlanets I will agree with you that those people who think they're somehow better than others because they think they "understand" something deeper than anyone else in this music are douchebags. The pretentious comments about "the people who don't like this music are sheep, cogs in a machine, conformists, etc." are really stupid. You either like this (or any) music or you don't, and whichever one it is, it says nothing bigger about you as a person.
listen to ANY song after this, and you'll hear it in a different light. You'll hear the rythm, the chords, the key changes. Wow, this really is a Gem... like gargling mouth wash before eating chocolate.
They are horrible in all respects but one. They isolate an aspect of good music that doesn't have to do with rhythm or tone or singing or lyrics really. It's horrible, but that one piece is there, and it's important. I think that's why musicians study this. Tone and rhythm and lyrics are definitely what makes up music, but without whatever it is this has as well a song will never be popular. I think that's the point.
@techrev9999 You are spot on. There is something deeply odd about them, but were it just idiotic clanging it wouldn't be interesting. At their best, such as the song Philosophy of the World, there's a really good, and very strange pop song hidden beneath the garbage. So there's at least one Shagg who understood the vitality of pop, yet could not (would not?) translate it into anything sane.
@naguiat1 The problem with it is that the guitars needed a little tuning. The only part of this I figured out goes Dsus4-Dsus4-D-D-Dsus4-Dsus4-D-D-C-C-D-D-C-C-D-D in the instrumental break. I would suggest de-tuning the guitar and winging it, but you need a good ear to figure it out.
@sonicthechicken LOL! thanks for the chords-now im trying to get the guitar sound with my rig. I'm playing a 1958 Gold top Les Paul thru a Marshall Plexi. For some reason I can't get that amazing Shags guitar sound...
@FuttBucker667 There are some good female percussionists out there -- Shiela E., Gina Schock of the Go-Go's, and Debbie Peterson of the Bangles immediately come to mind -- but the late Helen Wiggin of the Shaggs was not one of them.
I'd been hearing about them for quite a while and then finally checked them out just now. I'd heard they were bad, but I didn't know they were THIS bad. Musically, it sounds like what Captain Beefheart's Magic Band would sound like if they had absolutely no talent... or something like that.
Although I completely disagree with them being genius, I will admit there is something strangely compelling about their complete lack of structure and melody. I hated them a first, but they've grown on me in an odd way.
I feel physically sick listening to this.
Ollychamberlain 1 week ago 2
I love how smug the drummer looks
Chardsie 2 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
THAT WAS SO FUCKING BAD
Praunstar 2 weeks ago 3
Google image search "tintinnabulum". It's the inspiration for foot foot's appearance
WilliamPomThomasCPom 4 weeks ago
I really appreciate the placement of the hi-hat.
KingZerxst 1 month ago
Frank Zappa would be proud.
driftingfreek 1 month ago
This song is amazing. Not limited by key or tempo. I love this group.
CharmyDweeng 1 month ago
You have to be a genius to play this stuff! Zappa eat your heart out!
MrBilgey 1 month ago 2
@MrBilgey WOW i was thinking the same thing. Frank Zappa would appreciate this!
MusicPeaceArt 1 month ago
@MusicPeaceArt and @MrBilgey - Zappa said in an interview from around 1970 or so that The Shaggs' Philosophy of the World was his favorite album ever.
ashcol47 1 week ago
this is the music u hear at the gates of hell
octothorpe5g 1 month ago 15
Serious drugs to sign these girls, serious drugs to play this music, and serious drugs to actually enjoy this...lol....
ShaolinDragon9 1 month ago
if they could play their instruments it would sound like kimya dawson
willyrandolf 1 month ago
The song is what it is, but I LOVED the video clip.
Zzyyxxyyxx 1 month ago
Anyone else kind of scared?
Hoffman1222 2 months ago
I laughed like a fucking madman.
workatthefarm 2 months ago 5
"What key is this in?" We're not playing in keys anymore"
lunchbox0329 2 months ago
my ears hurt
darkwolff88 2 months ago
Their faces kindaloolike trollfaces
dislocatetion 3 months ago
God, I love conservative Christian families in the '60s.
Instead of damning everybody to Hell, they locked up their daughters and made them record THIS.
Malkmusianful 3 months ago 11
WTF ??
leroidujambon 3 months ago
90000% of kids have moved on to Rebecca Black :(
Repost if you're one of the -400% who still remember the glory days of the Shaggs! :)
Together we make everyone on the internet hate our guts and wish testicular cancer on us! :D
NihilistSlacker 3 months ago
I am watching this with my pal Hand Hand.
EdiblePlanets 3 months ago 4
I WONDER WHY FOOT FOOT RAN AWAY
TheMopardude 3 months ago 40
hahahaha
sellaelpolvolaboca 3 months ago
I find this difficult to masturbate to
MattAq11 3 months ago 2
I heard if you can make it past 2 minutes, you see the face of God.
JohnnyStreets 3 months ago 5
@JohnnyStreets ... and blood is coming out of his ears.
WonkaVator72 2 months ago
The antidote to Lady Gaga
intlkeyboards 3 months ago
I'm expecting a little musical proficiency but do you have to play over my head like this? the technicality is making my head spin.
subhumanmaster 3 months ago
ok um... i dont um... get it....
TheIronlogan 3 months ago
Franchement, c'est de la grosse daube, y a rien a dire de plus !
gottgott09 4 months ago
Octopus Pie brought me here... but I don't know why I'm staying.
PoisonPeachPit 4 months ago 2
@PoisonPeachPit Omg i lol'ed so hard, my english teacher had their album!
mohawkid 3 months ago
kinda reminds me of syd barret
turtlliwdnifuoyehthr 4 months ago
I don't care what any of you "critics' say.... THIS IS GENIUS! It pleases me immensely that this animated video has 308,000 views !
zkxb 4 months ago
I'll be honest, the animation is fun but viewing it without the animation is SO much better. You can actually construct a pattern to to the song in your head. The cartoon makes it a mockery regardless of how you interpret it, even if it was meant as a compliment.
OpheliaImmortal 4 months ago
Do you see what happens when you let women out of the kitchen ?
TheGroumpfy 4 months ago 2
@TheGroumpfy Well, these girls were hardly let out of their house... look up "The Shaggs" on Google and read their story, it's pretty darn sad...
wildwomanofwisconsin 4 months ago
i didn't really like this at first... but now.. there's something about the lack of rhythm, unorthodox musical style and silly lyrics that i like XD
jsaf7 4 months ago 3
what kind of animal is this yellow miscarriage?
Nakkinak 4 months ago
excellent video. Frank Zappa once said The Shaggs were even better than the Beatles. only a true artist like Zappa could hear the potential in this.
truthslap 4 months ago
@truthslap He ment it as a joke.. cuz He hated the beatles.
evangemini 4 months ago
who ever let them record this should go fuck them selves
lovesdabieber 5 months ago
my pal aslo named foot foot
kreisveldd 5 months ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
Better than the Beatles.
heroiniskindacool 5 months ago
This was one of Kurt Cobain's favorite albums. But is fucking scary.
Unicornioazul200 5 months ago
when i heard this on the radio i just died of laughter my mom was like what are you laughing about ? i was like are you not listening to the radio? shes like oh dear god an hour later my grand ma was like whats so funny? so i showed her this she died of laughter
crazyfroglova14 5 months ago
God this song is awful
InKsKyTV 5 months ago
when you enter hell, this is the muzak
SpikeLee3000 5 months ago
WHO gave these people a recording contract? WERE THEY ON DRUGS?
ReallySveet 5 months ago
@ReallySveet No just spoiled ritch kids who thought they were good and deserve a recording contract.
SalemStudios 5 months ago
@SalemStudios These girls were not "ritch". They were extremely poor. They've lived their entire lives in rural New Hampshire. Their father cleaned smokestacks I believe, to support them and their two brothers. His father forced them to do everything, recorded them before they were ready. These shy girls played every weekend at a theater. The whole town came, at first mostly to throw things. But they did improve. And they always stayed to clean the theater...it's still standing.
TheMagmagoblin 4 months ago
@TheMagmagoblin Oh well thats what my audio teacher was telling me, thank you for a telling the actual truth. I guess I will prove him wrong hahaha, but im glad they got good. :)
SalemStudios 4 months ago
@ReallySveet
No one gave them a recording contract. You don't need a contract to record an album. They're dad just payed out of pocket for studio time.
ovCosmic 5 months ago
derp.
Murillable 5 months ago
this is my jam
TheAmazingAuthor 6 months ago 3
This video is really creepy to watch.
f4frodojerry 6 months ago
like all music, which means you're tapping into someone's "taste", you either like something or you don't. i think these girls were not so very talented, but they play their music with an innocent kind of abandon, which i really like. it sounds like little kids playing in the sandbox - those are nice sounds. we are so sanitized by pop music and its penchant for making things sound "perfect" that this kind of music just sounds wrong. however you slice it - i love it.
pgreenlief 6 months ago
@pgreenlief
Ahhh. The sounds the Shaggs create are completely free of any possible concept of music or art. It is so refreshing and liberating.
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
If you listen VERY closely there is a set rhythm.
sallyragdoll13 6 months ago 36
@sallyragdoll13 I hear 3 set rhythms, neither of the three go together lol
truthslap 4 months ago
Ugh...Just as i suspected
C0nstellati0nZzz 6 months ago
still better than the beiber.
NarcoticEvil 6 months ago 3
best band in zie world
ogazuma 6 months ago
Can someone explain to me HOW they are talented? Don't take that the wrong way, I'm genuinely curious what others find to be talented writing.
I only bring this up because...well, when I first picked up a guitar and didn't know what I was doing it sounded like this. I could write this. You could write this. Someone could record their cat or dog walking on a guitar and loop it...and you would have noise. Add some simplistic lyrics that are almost nonsensical and its genius? I'm not convinced yet
alewis18 6 months ago
sounds like john la joie's best song ever made in the world.
steelundergrounder 6 months ago
does anybody else find this slightly unsettling to listen to? i don't know why, but i do. right from the first strum of the guitar.
siliodon 6 months ago
haha the video is awsome
INF3darkgreen 7 months ago
I like it, so I listen to it. It's not about beauty or mysticism, it just makes me smile.
If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
P.S. It's actually NOT necessary to bash other people because they have different taste from you. That's what makes the world go round...
garymaher 7 months ago
I like the Shaggs. I couldn't care less if anyone else approves of me liking them or not. My favorite Shaggs songs are My Pal Foot Foot and It's Halloween.
For those who don't like the Shaggs I suggest not listening to them.
fighttheracists 7 months ago
@fighttheracists "For those who don't like the Shaggs I suggest not listening to them"
=That, my friend, is WISDOM. :)
INF3darkgreen 7 months ago
This is possibly the worst collaboration of a horribly tuned drum kit, a horribly tuned guitar, and a trio of women who obviously either belong in a facility for the mentally challenged or in hospital getting tests done on their apparently broken brains.
What's even worse is the fans of this trio... it's really quite creepy to see people praise what is nothing more than a group of mentally challenged children pick up some instruments and spew out a garbage heap of noise.
Raptor015 7 months ago 2
@Raptor015
Wow!! Someone else who cannot see the mysterious cosmic beauty of untrained children slaughtering badly written songs with clueless playing and ghastly singing!
EdiblePlanets 7 months ago
I think it's strange that people vehemently dislike The Shaggs. I mean when I listen to them, the poor (and to some extent just weird) musicianship is kind of an afterthought, just some strange quirk that doesn't drastically alter the quality of it. The vocals and lyrics are what get me, they had really unique ideas for vocal melodies that sound strangely contemporary. Their music was sort of like weird, disturbingly honest camp songs.
Mablak 7 months ago
@Morgethein Actually, he and Kurt Cobain were for some reason, quite serious about the praise they gave this group.
Frostmourne79 7 months ago
They're so bad that they're almost good!!!
karatattoo 7 months ago
trisomy 21??
ramplestunkskin 7 months ago
Sounds like a band made up of 7 year olds... xD
spo0o0ky 7 months ago
@Morgethein
Zappa may have been joking, trouble is people took him seriously.
And Kurt; well, Kurt was a mess.
EdiblePlanets 7 months ago
this band is orrible!!!!!!!!!
massimoonoff 7 months ago
The only difference between them and Coltrane is that Coltrane was an incredibly talented performer who digressed into wider forms to make a point, while The Shaggs were amateurish at best, tho they also tried a unique aproach free of conventionalisms to make their own point too.
rodcrippler 7 months ago
I kind of "Get It":has anyone listened to John Coltrane's "Interstellar Space"? that's called FREE JAZZ.From what I can infer these girls have consistent patterns in their compositions(guitar imitates lyrics,drum is way off all the time,sometimes both guitar intertwines for brief periods,the same way lead singing and backup did). I would say what they did with this 60's pop rock style they grew up with was the same John Coltrane did to average jazz,therefore I would call this music FREE POP ROCK
rodcrippler 7 months ago 3
you need a huge amount of creativity sense to get this
argadipa 7 months ago
@argadipa I will have to vehemently disagree with that. These girls just flat out suck. Their dad just handed them instruments and told them to play because his mother read his palm and said they would form a band and become famous. Go figure, as soon as he died, they stopped playing. They just did it to appease him. One big mistake.
1465225568 7 months ago
@1465225568 the problem is no one have that kind level of creativity. Except Mrs Austin
argadipa 7 months ago
what is this i don't even...
QQMoarNubz 7 months ago 34
I GET IT.
SuperTakashii 7 months ago
just keep listenting till you get it :)
johnsmith9993 7 months ago
r u sure this isn't a parody?
sarastarp99 7 months ago
lol, did it ever occur to them to TUNE that guitar?
imajeepster 7 months ago 2
Nice drum solo...
sbarring1 7 months ago
i can't believe so many stupid people in these comments can't understand the basic concept of why the shaggs are a cool thing hahahaha. have you not a single empathetic bone in your body you huge idiot internet losers. what is wrong with you. what an easy target to say all your internet obscenities at. it's just unbelievable, such aggression towards such a simple event. don't some of you like daniel johnston. good lord. hideous. hideous! hideous internet men!
telegramsiam2 7 months ago
let's just say they're not better than the beatles.
XXnotXavailableXX 7 months ago
I like how Rebecca Black is in the suggestions.
BlackenedGass 7 months ago 3
Foot Foot looks like a happy little dude
BabyWetsAllNight 8 months ago
TABS?!
EverythingEverr 8 months ago
Ah, the days before Pro Tools.
DrRoy1 8 months ago
Someone is getting hustled in this situation.
Shmorgamorse 8 months ago
Still better than "Friday".
CandyGraham729 8 months ago
Ummm...I think I know the reason why Foot Foot has run away...
Brdwylover 8 months ago 2
mrsticker:
I will give you credit: at least you don't censor negative comments. I HATE overly sensitive pricks who cannot deal with negative comments. (Warm pat on the back.)
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
The most bizarre thing about this band is the people who like their music. They are totally delusional, and actually a bit arrogant. They claim that they can somehow hear deeply beautiful and mystical things in this crap that mere mortals cannot. For some reason they are easily offended when you point out that this is just lousy music played by inept girls who cannot sing.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago 28
@EdiblePlanets I like that you use Adam Ant as your face for Youtube. He rules! But I'm disappointed by your comments. It seems Adam still has things to teach you.
mrsticker2 8 months ago 17
@mrsticker2
OK, please enlighten me . . . The connection between Adam Ant and the Shaggs is . . .? If you are trying to say that the Shaggs embody the "punk ethic" or something like that, I don't buy it. There was always some talent with the better punk bands. Even if someone was hired mostly for their appearance (Sid Vicious) he was still backed up by good musicians. Those who equate the Shaggs with punk, or any musical movement, are reaching way to far. Sometimes crap is simply crap.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
@mrsticker2 And there's really no artistically deep meaning to these songs. It was really just what it sounds like. Girls forced into a band at their father's wishes. They didn't plan some sophisticated mind blast or anything.
Frostmourne79 7 months ago
@mrsticker2 I am related to these people and I agree with Edible Planets.. lol
CansGirl 6 months ago
@CansGirl
Are you a musician? The musical DNA must have went SOMEWHERE.
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets lol well, I do love to sing, and I AM MUCH better than they were (that does not take much) but my dad -- their cousin-- actually had a band with some of his friends, though the friends were kind of flakes and it did not go anywhere.. shame, because he really could have.
CansGirl 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets
Some people would say the same thing about pop music. It's just a matter of taste. When these girls sing, they sing from their own point of view. And Justin Bieber's point of view is not automatically more valid because he sings better or is better looking or more popular. There's a sadness and a worldliness in this music that Justin will not be able to convey until he is old and bald and washed up and no one listens to him anymore.
Bobbynles 8 months ago
@Bobbynles
I am not judging them as people. I am judging them as musicians . . . and as musicians they are horrible. I have no use for Bieber and GaGa either; however, I have to acknowledge that they have some talent, or at least surround themselves with talented musicians and producers. OK, let's say these girls are "honest". I think honesty is an element of art, but not every honest attempt at art results in art. Sometimes it just results in a mess. I give you the Shaggs.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets No body is arguing that this isn't a mess. But you seem to feel that you are uniquely qualified to determine what is and is not "art". Let me ask you this - if you have no regard for this music, why spend your time and energy trying to convince other people it is not worth listening to? Could it be that you feel insecure that other people are finding something in this music that you are unable to find?
Bobbynles 8 months ago
@Bobbynles Reasonable minds can disagree on what is art. This is beyond that. It's like taking a child's finger painting and calling it art. If your definition of "art" is broad enough to cover the finger painting - and if it is broad enough to cover whatever sounds these girls are producing - then the word has lost all meaning. You don't need an expert to reach that conclusion.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets a child's finger painting is art.
rainseed1 8 months ago in playlist girlsband
a child's finger painting is art.
rainseed1 8 months ago in playlist girlsband
@Bobbynles exactly, thank you for saying this!
rainseed1 8 months ago in playlist girlsband
@Bobbynles Yes! my thoughts exactly!
rainseed1 8 months ago in playlist girlsband
@Bobbynles Very Wise, Gandolf would be pleased with this comment:)
rainseed1 8 months ago in playlist girlsband
@EdiblePlanets yeah adam ant would be dissapointed
you are just dumb
javoutube1 8 months ago
@javoutube1
You called me "dumb"?
You are breaking my fucking heart.
As you may know, Adam and the Ants featured two drummers. If these girls added a second drummer you would have a total of four different songs played at the same time. My ears bleed.
I wonder how many people like this band just because they were fooled by Zappa and Cobain talking bullshit.
As for me. I trust my own judgment,and I know crap when I hear it.
Peace, Stupido.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets I trust my own judgement too, and your opinion is crap.
SpaceHospital 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Honestly, yeah, it's bad, but I can't say I don't enjoy it in a way, because it's really sort of pure. It's like it's written by 3-year-olds. It's really pretty amazing that these girls grew up and listened to music and put together a band, and learned nothing about how to do it right, or even how to fake it. They are somehow completely untainted by the boring lame poser-ness most awful artists end up exhibiting. They're authentic. And that's what makes them interesting.
GuacamoleKun 8 months ago 4
@GuacamoleKun thats exactly it! written by 3 year olds that dont know how to fake it. is there anything better than that?
BornAgainBabyJesus 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets mean.
anarchoandpeace 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets mean.
anarchoandpeace 8 months ago
@anarchoandpeace
Heard ya the first time. I'm not "mean". Since when is calling crap crap mean? I'm just being honest. The mean one is the girls' father. He's the jerk who forced them to play despite their obvious lack of desire and talent.
EdiblePlanets 8 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Rock and Roll, baby. That's what you aren't getting. Rock and Roll.
cheappassion 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Well said, They pat themselves on the back saying they get it and you don't so they are somehow better and smarter the you. Bawaaaa.
Zappa was having a laugh people, don't be so fucking stupid to think he ACTUALY thought the Shaggs were IN FACT better than the Beatles, I mean are you really that fucking stupid?
Johnnywhamo 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets That's what gives me a pain in the ass.I bought Philosphy Of The World as a kid.It just makes me laugh to this day.People have to complicate everything though,pretentious twats.
exeuroweenie 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets It's just a bit over your head, but that's okay :)
CrinkleCutBeatroot 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets If you'd ever been around a recording studio you would love The Shaggs (in a quasi ironic way, but with the emphasis on the quasi). It's not the music or vocals although those are... charming. It's the sonic colour of the instrumentation and the recording medium, also it's made by magic recording elves. It's a bizarre parody of 60's pop music that's actually kinda neat given a second listen. As is you're just an angry music nerd who resents people's taste. Enjoy your "life."
NoCommentChick 7 months ago
@NoCommentChick
Your response summarized by sentence:
1. Vague. 2. Vague and wrong. 3. Vague and bit silly. 4. Just wrong. 5. The expected personal attack. 6. See # 5.
This seems to follow the pattern of Shaggs fans.
EdiblePlanets 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets I think the moral was that even though they had no musical talent, these girls did what they did for their father. That takes dedication.
Frostmourne79 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets I agree, MrSticker. Edible is clearly learning-challenged, and on many levels. He/she is taking this music at face value, and doesnt seem to understand that it's infinitely more then the simple sum of it's parts. The Shaggs are quite possibly the most profoundly and overwhelmingly talented artists North America has ever seen, and by a wide margin. It's understandable though, that the mindless hoards wouldnt understand or appreciate them...that is the environment in which we live.
eggbertsmith 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets But dont take my word for it, listen to what John Lennon said about them, just months before his unfortunate death: "yes, I have heard The Shaggs, and their angelic voices, lyrical poetry, and musical prowess made me ashamed. They were born far too late." Take THAT, haters! And what about Bob Dylan: "The Shaggs inherently have, what many of us have worked our entire lifetimes to achieve, I dont know if there's a proper word for that intangible characteristic, but they have it."
eggbertsmith 7 months ago
@eggbertsmith Apparently they didn't know they had it, either, because, again, the ONLY reason these girls started playing was because the father was told through a friggin' palmreading, that his daughters would form some amazing rock group. "What many of us work our entire lifetimes to achieve" was most likely "actual passion and reason for doing what we do" which was out of love for their father, instead of what most artists played for: money, fame, success.
Frostmourne79 7 months ago
@eggbertsmith Not many people in this world do things that aren't for their own personal gain, in some way.
Frostmourne79 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets And lastly, I must quote a line from my proctologist, who said: "The Shaggs music, is not unlike a colonoscopy for the soul, it really lets you know who you are". What a wise individual!
eggbertsmith 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets you sound like someone who would prefer their music hyper produced and over auto tuned.
isfckingevil 7 months ago
@EdiblePlanets well i wouldnt say that they were good but i think they have some beautiful moments. plus a lot of people who really are great musicians but are unconventional get dismissed by some people because of those peoples inability to think outside of the box. so i would say that a lot of people who think that their was nothing at all compelling about the shaggs might also write off some actual geniuses because they make uncconvential music. ex. derek bailey
edcerc 7 months ago
@edcerc
The "beautiful moments" are the moments of silence between their songs.
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets That may be but it's not just bad music, it's probably the worst and weirdest music. Take this song for example, everything about the music itself is bad but the lyrics are horrifyingly strange. It makes people wonder what the hell these girls were thinking. Nobody (not even Rebecca Black) has ever created music this demented, and that's why some enjoy it. Nobody is worse than The Shaggs and that's why we love them.
LuneyTune72 6 months ago
@LuneyTune72
I've got no problem liking something for it's shear awfulness. Even I feel drawn to it - like a grizzly accident scene. My problem is that some people actually think there is something very good going on here. And they are quite jerky when you disagree and point out the obviously terrible nature of the sounds these girls are creating.
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Don't you find it interesting that these girls dreamed of being rock stars in the late 60s, were very proud of their music, and even found a way to release it? They were the first of the worst of the worst. They supposedly even influenced Frank Zappa, which I could believe.
LuneyTune72 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets LMAO no shit! I hate reading "you just don't get it man" type shit. What is there to get?
They couldn't even re-create their own "sound"
Johnnywhamo 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Don't get it? Too bad for you. There is plenty of formulaic plastic music for your plastic life. I don't have to tell you to stay in your box because you wouldn't dream of leaving. You wouldn't dream at all.
Notecrusher 6 months ago
@Notecrusher Brilliant. I am a plastic man who stays in my plastic box. (Sort of like the Kinks song, huh?) Ok. But at least I know what crap sounds like when I hear it. You are delusional if you think you are hearing anything else.
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets Are you actually saying impossible to really like their music? For me it's something about how technically bad it is that makes me like it. It sounds different, and it's kinda refreshing. I doubt that many people who like The Shaggs like them because there is something hard to understand about their music, or "mystical" or whatever.
borskyviolin 6 months ago
@borskyviolin Liking something because it is bad is perverse. It may be a harmless perversity, but, well, it's still perverse . . .
EdiblePlanets 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets It's not just that it's bad, it's that its "badness" makes it different, and I like it because it sounds like no other music I'm gonna hear. I don't think they were musical geniuses or anything like that, but what came from their effort, although a failure at what they were probably shooting for, is interesting and enjoyable because it's so odd. The lyrics and their voices make them sound naive and innocent, and the music is kinda charming because of that.
borskyviolin 6 months ago
@EdiblePlanets I will agree with you that those people who think they're somehow better than others because they think they "understand" something deeper than anyone else in this music are douchebags. The pretentious comments about "the people who don't like this music are sheep, cogs in a machine, conformists, etc." are really stupid. You either like this (or any) music or you don't, and whichever one it is, it says nothing bigger about you as a person.
borskyviolin 6 months ago
Absolute pile of shite.
5amo 8 months ago
Foot foot
so good they named him twice.
samcreate124 8 months ago
Foot foot
so good they named him twice.
samcreate124 8 months ago
That's some deep shit, you guise! This band rocks!
canadiantothebakon 8 months ago
I would like the drugs that would make this sound like the Moody Blues to my senses.
salinagrrrl69 8 months ago
listen to ANY song after this, and you'll hear it in a different light. You'll hear the rythm, the chords, the key changes. Wow, this really is a Gem... like gargling mouth wash before eating chocolate.
underdonkey5 8 months ago
this is awesome
brandonmoped 8 months ago
Wow. Not a bad attempt at the Avant Garde but with some....
Wait this isn't?
Holy CRAP!
Dreadmonkey1 8 months ago
They are horrible in all respects but one. They isolate an aspect of good music that doesn't have to do with rhythm or tone or singing or lyrics really. It's horrible, but that one piece is there, and it's important. I think that's why musicians study this. Tone and rhythm and lyrics are definitely what makes up music, but without whatever it is this has as well a song will never be popular. I think that's the point.
techrev9999 8 months ago
@techrev9999 You are spot on. There is something deeply odd about them, but were it just idiotic clanging it wouldn't be interesting. At their best, such as the song Philosophy of the World, there's a really good, and very strange pop song hidden beneath the garbage. So there's at least one Shagg who understood the vitality of pop, yet could not (would not?) translate it into anything sane.
Lazersetcetera 8 months ago
Fucking hell cant you get any fucking good music? Like The Who, The beetles, Especcially Iron Maiden
EpicTwistedOne 8 months ago
it strangely becomes more and more interesting with each listen
DarkWhite25 8 months ago
This is fucked up. So I kinda like it.
NicoMorley 8 months ago
@NicoMorley me 2
rainseed1 8 months ago
hahahahahahahahahaha
zxcvbnm1234561234561 9 months ago
does anyone have the guitar TAB to this song? im having a hard time transcribing it
naguiat1 9 months ago 43
@naguiat1 The problem with it is that the guitars needed a little tuning. The only part of this I figured out goes Dsus4-Dsus4-D-D-Dsus4-Dsus4-D-D-C-C-D-D-C-C-D-D in the instrumental break. I would suggest de-tuning the guitar and winging it, but you need a good ear to figure it out.
gpietsch 9 months ago
@naguiat1 I have the chords for it, its
DDEFBMPVWNOWBVNIJBIJVWFIJOWNJOVFNOVFNJOV
sonicthechicken 8 months ago
@sonicthechicken LOL! thanks for the chords-now im trying to get the guitar sound with my rig. I'm playing a 1958 Gold top Les Paul thru a Marshall Plexi. For some reason I can't get that amazing Shags guitar sound...
naguiat1 8 months ago
@naguiat1 if you get it mind sharing it please?
BornAgainBabyJesus 7 months ago
Girls cannot play the drums, why do they even try?
FuttBucker667 9 months ago
@FuttBucker667 There are some good female percussionists out there -- Shiela E., Gina Schock of the Go-Go's, and Debbie Peterson of the Bangles immediately come to mind -- but the late Helen Wiggin of the Shaggs was not one of them.
gpietsch 9 months ago
I'd been hearing about them for quite a while and then finally checked them out just now. I'd heard they were bad, but I didn't know they were THIS bad. Musically, it sounds like what Captain Beefheart's Magic Band would sound like if they had absolutely no talent... or something like that.
crescentfreshbret 9 months ago
Although I completely disagree with them being genius, I will admit there is something strangely compelling about their complete lack of structure and melody. I hated them a first, but they've grown on me in an odd way.
chasen47 9 months ago
Why does "Party in the U.S.A" come up as a suggestion here?
TheFridgeslayer 9 months ago