Naturopathy vs. Homeopathy

[carloshoilistic]

homeopathy works.... 

[uriituw]

Homeopathy is pure water. Not magic water - as there is no magic.

Selling bullshit, unproven treatments as medicine is dishonest.

I don't know how these people can live with themselves, speaking shit like this.

[joshbmorrow]

Most criticism of western/scientific medicine are actually just criticism of doctors and business... SCIENCE WORKS. Doctors, on the other hand, are capable of making mistakes. Trust in scientific medicine, not mysticism and faith.

[thestranger11]

This is bullshit. Terrible doctor if he reccommends either of these 'treatments' Homeopathy is just water.

[PelicanGodOfJupiter]

If you think your doctor is prescribing you drugs that you don't need, change doctors, not disciplines. My (medical) doctor brought my blood pressure down from a dangerously high level to pretty normal without prescribing a single pill. Other doctors would have told me to take blood pressure tablets. A good medical doctor knows all about natural medicine, but also has the tools to give you a proper treatment when needed.

CHOOSE SCIENCE!

I don't even know how I ended up on this video. Sheesh.

[PelicanGodOfJupiter]

Wow, I thought naturopathic doctors were just like real doctors, who just arbitrarily cut out half of the world's medical knowledge because it wasn't "natural"! This guy has cleared it up for me though. Lucky I now know not to waste my time.

[TylerTolmanTT]

You really have a talent for making videos! Keep them coming

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

From my personal experience with MD(Drug doctors) I was scammed since after 8 months of bogus treatments and I was prescribed with dangerous drugs,in other words the drugs would have given me serious side effects which would have caused NEW problems to arise like heart problems,liver damage etc and then I would have to go to another so-called drug pusher or their friend to gain more commissions,I see them as salesmen,crooks/criminals,frau­dulent hucksters just for the greed.Lawsuits are rampant

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

It's funny how the pharma SHILLS base all their conclusions on personal beliefs,biased websites and focus on everything unconventional.Yet the world stands by observing the large number of lawsuits against the pharmaceutical industry.You should look at Dr.John Virapen,PhD,former general manager of Eli Lilly for 35 years and others who exposed the SCAMS of the drug doctors and the industry just for SALES.Look at the SHIT about psychiatry.RUBBISH and pseudoscience.Hucksters for Paxil,Zoloft etc

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

Dr. Barbara Starfield , MD of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health and the American Medical Association states: DEATHS PER YEAR:

12,000 - unnecessary surgery8

7,000 - medication errors in hospitals9

20,000 - other errors in hospitals10

80,000 - infections in hospitals10

106,000 - non-error, negative effects of drugs2

These total to 250,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes.I was SCAMMED by 3 dermatologists prescribing nonsense like Accutane and steroids for 8 months.Rubbish

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

South Florida psychiatrist Alan Gumer MD got in near the start of the nation’s largest mental-health clinic racket in 2004, signing bogus medical evaluations to qualify patients for costly group therapy sessions covered by Medicare.Dr. Mark Willner of Weston and Dr. Alberto Ayala of Miami-Dade, served as the company’s medical directors.They pleaded guilty for altering diagnosis.Dr.Gumer,Dr.Ayala and Dr.Willner faces between six and seven years in prison.The Miami Herald.

[Teaspooninjabot]

This guy really uses the word "medicine" loosely.

[ScienceImpulse]

Doctor believing in homeopathy = biologist believing in creationism.

[nolobede]

...And besides the controversy of efficacy, there is something disturbing about a man who cliams to be able to heal bodies, yet can't even seem to be able to make a professional choice about socks.

[nolobede]

NOT science based medicine.

[oliverdavidanderson]

Quack quack. Please don't call yourself a doctor it is very insulting to the brilliant people who have spent their lives learning science and medicine and save thousands of lives everyday. You, on the other hand, wasted your life studying pseudoscience that doesn't help anybody. See the difference?

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@oliverdavidanderson Quack quack? LOL another jackass who focuses on the sales of asanine pharmaceuticals.You promote the industry which have been proven to be the 4th leading cause of death worldwide.A profession which focuses on symptom treatment and bullshit schemes to keep you sick but just suppression.My friend,look at the amount of lawsuits every year AGAINST pharmaceuticals for KILLING thousands of poor gullible people like you.You are such an ass.Quack?Sorry but a quack is a psychiatrist

[vpawid]

Naturopathic doctors go through twice as much schooling as a Allopathic docter surely those u feel negatively about N.D.s dont know what they are talking about. Hating before understanding = Youtubers with no knowledge but only an opinion

[murdocha]

@vpawid Okay, please educate us. And don't use "Allopathic" to describe "medical doctors". Allopathic is a term invented by Hahnemann much the same way he invented homeopathy. If you insist on using terms that are defined by those in opposition to homeopathy/naturopathy, accept our use of the work "quack" for both.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha quack is for a medical pretender,it does not mean anyone who does not use conventional medicine/deadly pharmaceuticals.I guess you should observe the lawsuits against big pharma every week and the dangerous side effects the drug doctors push just to sell a product.MD is just a graduate of a medical school.Drugs and surgery.You apparently cannot be objective and focus on gossip and foolish nonsensical personal opinions.By the way,the biggest quacks are psychiatrists,look it up. Salesman

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer Okay, here's where your argument falls apart: The pharmaceuticals you rail against have been proven to work. Are there side effects? Yes, and they are listed by the manufacturers as required under Federal Law. The same cannot be said for herbal remedies, homeopathy, vitamin supplements and other "CAM" modalities.

I would rather accept a therapy knowing the risks than enter blindly with nothing more than faith to guide me.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha proven to work? You mean the fraudulent clinical trials,tell me if they were proven to be "Safe" why after 2 years there were 12000 reported deaths for statin drugs?

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

Statin drugs, the ones your so-called doctor insists that you take if your cholesterol is slightly elevated and Bernie Madoff ( the now infamous financial fraudster ) have both left in their wake many innocent victims, and many sincere but misled supporters. Both are huge frauds perpetrated on the unsuspecting.Dwight C. Lundell M.D.Thoracic surgeon

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha By the way there have been numerous reports of clinical trials proven to be fraudulent for the financial gain of the pharmaceutical company providing such drugs.Only to sell to people to suppress the symptoms,however,there are dozens of dangerous side effects.Eg.Paxil's side effects are suicidal thoughts,heart attack and stroke.I guess since you can relieve a bogus problem like "stress" it works for you.You pay the price with a lifetime of schemes and you end up broke and die.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha You dont know the risks because you never looked into it.I tried 3 dermatologists for 8 months to "treat" a skin problem and the drugs NEVER worked,infact masking or putting a make-up over a symptom is not working and does not solve the problem.Little did I know,the quacks prescribed steroids and one con man prescribed Accutane which ended up in a massive lawsuit and many people died and suffered because of the greed.So-called drug doctors should have been jailed.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer My, you have been busy tonight! So many logical fallacies, so little time. You compare Bernie Madoff to all doctors. May I point out one of the largest and most damaging frauds to have been perpetrated was by CAM's golden child Andrew Wakefield? Not only did he victimize the victims he now claims to champion, he leaves in his wake thousands of ill and dead children whose parents believed him.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha LOL the amount of victims have died because of pharma doctors.By the way I did not compare them,Dr. Dwight C. Lundell, M.D. Thoracic surgeon you twit.There are many MD's exposes the scams involved in the shit big pharma.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha LOL the only logical fallacies are the ones you get from your biased websites like the quack stephen barrett who lost countless lawsuits.I see doctors data is dealing with them now for 10 million dollars.I would not even bother to waste my time talking about the quackery of psychiatry and how it is not a real profession but a fraud of manipulation.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer "Fraud of manipulation". So, now you want to talk about Chiropractic? Just kidding. Exactly how many lawsuits has Dr. Barrett lost? I'm assuming you have data to back up your assertions?

While you're at it, please explain the logical fallacies he puts on his website.

You should be good at it, you know all about the strawman fallacy.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha LOL manipulation is about the mind and psychiatry is not a real profession.Its pure quackery.Barrett is a con man and based every single information on pitiful personal opinions.Never once proven a fact and silly websites that never gained credibility.Infact a California judge ruled that he was biased and unworthy of credibility.Strawman fallacy lol I think you need to read a book instead of wasting time reading shit comments by pharma salesmen.Nothing about you is logical.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha Mr.fraudster,please explain to me why vioxx killed so many thousands of innocent lives when prescribed by drug doctors.Especially since the so-called drugs were "approved" and a seal of safety,Truth is,the trials are manipulate and they pay PhD's to approve it and are from the SAME companies that produce the drug.However,the side effects of the drugs are worse than the actual symptom it proposed to treat.Idiot.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer How many, exactly, did Vioxx kill? Remember the population that used Vioxx in the first case. Regardless, remember who exposed Vioxx, it was the NEJM. Physicians, oops, that can't be right, they're all idiots controlled by Big Pharma.

Nope, it was NEJM that exposed the mess, the data manipulation and fabrication and brought about the voluntary recall of the product. Next case please.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha LOL infact the same physicians expose the quackery of big pharma.I did mention before about Dr.John Virapen and Dr.Dwight Lundell just to name a few,infact there are hundreds of books published by pharma doctors exposing their own industry and realized that their own peers were really magicians,western medicine is more like voodoo and potions.Infact magic tricks,now you see it,now you don't.Symptom suppression today,oops there it is again.Explain Avandia,Paxil,Zoloft,Accutane deaths.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer LOL? Honestly, how old are you, 16?

You state "western medicine is more like voodoo and potions". Take a close look at the title of the Youtube video you're commenting on. You think modern medicine is like voodoo? What about homeopathy. Take a substance, dilute it until there is nothing in it, and sell it as a cure. There's your voodoo, your snake oil.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha Yes western medicine is voodoo since people die from it.Just for greed,by the way snake oil? The same William Rockefeller sells pharmaceutical drugs now.By the way there are more deaths from pharmaceutical potions than the wars.You salesman.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer Salesman? Shill? What am I selling, who am I working for? Your words "western medicine is voodoo since people die from it". Okay, let's do some logic you can understand:

Voodoo="people die from it"

People die from homeopathy

Therefore homeopathy=voodoo.

Man, you're good!

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha LOL NOBODY has EVER died from homeopathy,you are such a huckster.You have no evidence for any of your claims you FRAUD.There are hundreds of papers to provide evidence against drugs KILLING people.Infact 65000 lawsuits within a 6 year period for dozens of drugs causing many to die.You have no credible argument.The pharma doctors prescribe voodoo and potion treatments.Eg.Paxil=voodoo.Und­erstand?

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer Mary Nedlouf, Gloria Thomas, Jeff Healey, Lady Victoria Waymouth, Alicia Santizo, Diane Shepherd, Janeza Podgoršek. All died from Homeopathy.

It is obvious you clearly do not understand what you are talking about. There's no point arguing with an imbecile.

Good night.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha There is no proof any of these people died from homeopathy especially since you say its magical water you twit.There are literally THOUSANDS of people who died from drugs.Look at vioxx,55000 patients DIED within a 9 year period.You quote FAKE names from BIASED websites that had NO proof.Google: Pharmaceutical Deaths.You will see actual governmental sites but you can only quote silly sites like quackwatch which is NOT credible.Only opinions.Infact they have been DEBUNKED a dozen times.

[thinkingman07]

@TheFriendlyEngineer I have to disagree with you. It is more like millions die from prescription drugs in a year. Also keep in mind that no one has ever taking a homeopathic remedy and went on a school shooting or hung themselves. Yet millions of children are placed on psychtropic drugs each year which increase suicide and violence. The best part about that they are put on these dangerous drugs with nothing more than a label no diagnosis, no blood test no nothing.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@thinkingman07 I agree,the numbers have grown to the millions of deaths.Some biased people are just plain opinionated and blinded by propaganda.The life expectancy rose with good lifestyle choices.Infact there is ample evidence that thimerosol in vaccines causes mitochondria damage and neuron depletion,causing autism and its on the rise.Drugs are killing people and causing complications.People are lucky to see 70.Infact people in the 50's walk around with bags of tablets and they are schemed.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha I am into petroleum engineering and I have nothing to do with this,I am speaking from my own personal experience and also my peers have been scammed from the drug pushers(MD's).You can rant and rave all you want but you cannot show me any safety from drugs since most of the clinical trials are fraud just to protect their own company.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer If you're honestly an engineer, I mourn for the science education you received. Oops, wait a second...Petroleum engineer? You're a shill for Big Oil. I see what you're trying to do now. The veil has been lifted from my eyes. You're a disinformation agent paid by Big Oil to obfuscate the issues and get Americans back into Iraq. Man, the rabbit hole runs deep!

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha Chemistry,biology,physics etc are basic information but pharmaceutical companies do not know about science.They swindle the poor unsuspected gullible victim/patient into buying their product and hide behind the name "medical science" utter bullshit.You cannot deny the fact that even the pharmaceutical companies admit their wrong and pleaded guilty countless times on fraud,conspiracy and pure murder.

[thinkingman07]

@TheFriendlyEngineer Thanks to these monopolist government agencies like the FDA go around shutting down the sale of raw milk--something that Europe and the rest of the world does. Ban supplements, restrict access to vitamins and attack walnut companies for saying walnuts are good for the heart. Yet, they can support potato chip companies advertising health claims, approve vaccines to help people to quick smoking, protect psych drugs which kill millions each year without the slightest reproach.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha You must be a silly little teenager trying to defend his/her parent who is on some drug believing that it is working but the fact remains that nobody gets better,infact people get worse and drugs will always create new problems.People walk around like zombies,you work hard and when you retire,you retire sick and all your money is taken away from some crook MD who promises safety from drugs to "control" a sickness by a drug and the gullible person ends up dead or suffers before death.

[murdocha]

@TheFriendlyEngineer You're throwing out absolutes here. Nobody gets better? I guess the increase in life expectancy since the 1800's is due to homeopathy then? Nope? Do some stats, you're a trained shill...oops, engineer, you should know math. What is the life expectancy now compared to 1800's? 1700's? 1600's? Christ, even 1930's? Think that's Homeopathy? Nope, it's medicine, vaccines, antibiotics, doctors and nurses working their asses off to help you stay healthy.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha Some celebrities who died from prescriptions Marilyn Monroe(Nembutal,Chloral hydrate)Dorothy Dandridge(Tofranil),Jimi Hendrix(Seconal),Freddie Prinze(Quaaludes),Keith Moon(Heminevrin),Abbie Hoffman(Phenobarbital),Steve Clark(Imipramine),Margaux Hemingway(Phenobarbital),Rob Pilatus(Methadone),Dana Plato(Soma,Vicodin),Chris Penn(Promethazine,codeine),Ger­ald Levert(Vicodin, Percocet,Darvocet,Xanax),Anna Nicole Smith(Klonopin,Ativan,Serax,Va­lium),Heath Ledger(Valium,Xanax,oxycodone)

[thinkingman07]

@murdocha Actually, history tells us that the life expectancy rose with use of hygenic treatments practiced by eclectics (MD's who used herbs, hydrotherapy, diet, and homeopathy), Naturopaths, early osteopaths, and homeopaths. The fact of the matter is ( NEJM 2005 issue on life expectancy) that we are not going to live longer than our forefathers. Thanks to physician ignorance on diet, and the belief that drugs cure, people are obese and drugged into chronic disease and death.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@thinkingman07 Drugs only suppress symptoms,infact look at the drug actos that drug doctors prescribe into making patients believe its safe.Yet thousands reported with side effects of bladder cancers,heart attacks and death.Drugs are actually creating new diseases in our bodies.Cancer is on the rise,fraud in clinical trials eg.paxil fraud.13 psychiatrists jailed for 7 years for GSK fraud.The Miami Herald.Instead of sueing drug companies like Eli Lilly's billion dollar zypreza fraud.Jail drugdocs

[murdocha]

@thinkingman07 Just where are you getting your information? There's nothing of the sort in the NJEM article from March 2005. Herbs, hydrotherapy, diet and homeopathy? Bunk and nonsense. The rise came from physicians, yes, who used hygenic treatments, yes, eclectics? No. Handwashing, sterilization of equipment, antibiotics all significantly increased the life expectancy and outcomes. There is evidence to show that, it's quantifiable, unlike Homeopathy which continues to show nothing past placebo

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@murdocha Vioxx deaths were exposed by FDA 55000 patients/victims between 1999-2008.Quack drug doctors wanted to sell the drug just to relieve pain but conned the patients for greed and the side effects were heart failures,stroke and death.Merck ended up paying huge fines.What about the 1.42 billion dollar lawsuit against Eli Lilly for the shit Zyprexa?I guess if it was your family,you would not be such a SHILL.By the way Zyprexa causes diabetes and thousands died from heart attacks.Sad.

[nolobede]

@vpawid

"Hating before understanding = Youtubers with no knowledge but only an opinion"

Really? And you just discounted all youtubers as unknowledgeable because they disagree with YOUR less educated opinion? As someone with multiple science degrees, I've been educated to know the difference between science, and pure bullshit, and so have many youtubers. Youtube is no place to spread bullshit, because there are always people smarter than you to weed out your chaff.

[jimmyboyG485]

@vpawid

Naturopathy believes that a 'vital force' heals the body and carries out all other bodily processes. Its teachings are centuries-old and do not stand up to scientific testing. It is not a science. It doesn't matter how long students spend learning this bullshit, all this means is they know even more bullshit than you would otherwise expect.

[foxmcloud555]

Ha! the funniest part of this video is where he says homeopathy is a type of medicine! Just like how a chair, my foot and walking in a circle are all kinds of medicine of similar medicinal quality.

[Daverbater]

HAHA, seriously? Everybody knows Homeopathy is BS (Naturopathy too I'd assume) How can this guy say this with a straight face?

[davapod]

I'm a practioner of Bolloxseopathy

[Heddy451]

Interested in learning more? See "Healing Cancer from the Inside Out", Mike Anderson; (DVD) The Beautiful Truth (DVD), "Dying to Have Known " DVD.

Learn about the politics of an issue most people are brainwashed about.

[korona3103]

Naturopathy - all your bullshit health quackery in one convenient location - so convenient!

[Heddy451]

One of the sad trends is the split in the US of schools calling themselves "naturopaths" when they teach the medical model. That serves no one ultimately- naturoapthy is watered down, and true allopathy cannot be accessed. If you want two opinions, seek out two genuine practitioners from each area. Traditional naturopathy is the true naturopathy.

[Heddy451]

I am surprised to see such an ignorant, and perhaps downright hostile comment as "rreebee69" offers. Those of us who receive and also study naturopathy see proof every single day, and in every single case, that natural healing works. Just as a little cut heals, particularly if it is helped along and given a chance, so does the body in other ailments. Here is an idea- naturopaths WANT to practice NATUROPATHY- not allopathic medicine! As allopathy deteriorates, naturopathy rises , as it should

[Heddy451]

Md or allopathy is just one of many approaches and paradigms to health care. People , particularly in the insular US of A are brainwashed into thinking medical care is "best", but for a growing many, it is not a first choice, and possibly a last.

I am a little surprised that the "homeopathic community" does not seem to understand that homeopathic remedies and approaches are a TOOL in the medicine bag of naturopaths and other types of practitioners- but they are, so now you understand.

[keeg021985]

@Heddy451 Totally wrong. There is no science behind naturopathy or homeopathy. For homeopathy to work, the laws of physics would have to be altered, and that ain't gonna happen. This is junk. As a bonafide scientist, I've met many people like you over the years, all weirdly suspicious of science, yet avid users of what science has provided. Childish and crazy.

[Heddy451]

@keeg021985 @keeg021985

@keeg021985

Sorry bud- I am totally right on this one. We dont need "science' to back what we do- we have Nature.

And there is plenty of science behind naturopathy- the laws of physics are working when hydrotherapy works, when herbal medicine works, when bodywork /massage works, & diet.

We (if I can speak for others here, as you seem to have done) are not suspicious of science, per se,

we just know modern science, particularly medical science- full of distortions.

[keeg021985]

@Heddy451 So...modern science, particularly medical science, is full of distortions? But naturopathy isn't? Give me a break. Science follows the rules of the scientific method for its claims, claims that are published in peer reviewed journals. Again, the fact that naturopaths give credibility to homeopathy, destroys their credibility. Numerous studies on homeopathy alone have not found a shred of postive evidence in its favor (and again, we have those damn laws of physics).

[Heddy451]

@keeg021985 Once again, you are not getting it. Look under another rock, OK?

The two are apples and oranges. Naturopathy

does not aspire to being allopathy. Naturopathy is what it is, and is not looking to allopathy and corporate science to validate it. Unless you have been actively in the field of natural healing for many years, and surely you have not, you don't have a leg to stand on since you have never observed anything. No need to reply- I am pretty much done with this discussion.

[XforeverlongingX]

@Heddy451 "No need to reply- I am pretty much done with this discussion. " That's because he destroyed your argument when he said "Numerous studies on homeopathy alone have not found a shred of positive evidence in its favor (and again, we have those damn laws of physics)." THAT is why you refuse to answer him. :)

[oimedic]

I have not been involved in any ND care. However, I would like to speak up for alternative medical treatment approaches to non critical health problems. MD meds may, sometimes, mitigate effects of serious well developed health problems. So called CAM treatments can prevent illness from progressing with positive side effects. It's a fact that it's unknown exactly how many of the commonly prescribed meds from MD's actually work in the human body. Many ND approaches to health are common sense.

[XforeverlongingX]

N.D. = Not a doctor.

[Heddy451]

@XforeverlongingX ND- naturopathic doctor. Doctor- from the Latin, do-cere- meaning to teach.

[XforeverlongingX]

@Heddy451 Doesn't have the same definition in today's society. When someone says doctor you know what they mean. They don't mean this huxter.

[Heddy451]

@XforeverlongingX - Time to wake up then- it does now- many thousands of naturopaths and acupuncturists and even chiropractors use the designation doctor. The culture has changed and continues to. It might not be clear to YOU, yet, but we will happily explain it to you and others like you- always committed to education, you see. Don't forget, not too long ago, surgeons used to be barbers....do some research, for you sound ignorant.

[XforeverlongingX]

@Heddy451 Before there was chemistry there was alchemy and before there was astronomy there was astrology. Yes, I see what you're saying. Naturopathy and acupuncture sure follow suit. Now we have real medicine, and you've just proven my point for me. Thanks.

[Heddy451]

@XforeverlongingX

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[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@XforeverlongingX Listen there are many different types of doctors in the world,apparently you are speaking about MD's (graduates from a medical school) qualified in drugs and surgery,basically drug doctors and push drugs for suppression of symptoms.While 65000 lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies over a period of 6 years.The most lawsuits against any industry.AMA reports 106000 deaths per year from prescriptions,eg AVANDIA,ACCUTANE,VIOXX,PAXIL,Z­OLOFT etc.Western drug doctors scam people.

[vfmel]

sorry but why is this entitled naturopathy versus homeopathy - how about "how naturopathy includes homepathic prescribing" misleading and not helpful to the homeopathic community.

[treebee69]

Right now in Canada people are going after NDs because there are not enough MDs that take time-The Canadian Government is now on to this and they really don't want the mass population getting rid of the root cause, being healthy, so guess what? The are implementing taxing the shit out of anyone carrying supplements or herbs, health stores, NDs, ebay online sellers, anyone. The purpose is to make these naturpathic medicine so expensive that pharmaceutical drugs become the cheaper option.. Think.

[treebee69]

When drugs become the cheaper more people will buy it, making the pharmaceutical companies even richer.

[treebee69]

They become richer as we become sicker. ND is a better way if you want to get a full diagnosis. Also remember this is called integrative medicine for a reason. They do have the ability to recommend you to see a Medical Doctor if the problem is so severe and long gone and requires immediate invasive medical attention. If you have ailments that are not too severe right away but something that could become big an ND is much better to see.

[XforeverlongingX]

@treebee69 Naturopaths are not qualified to help anybody with true medical ailments. They are stealing your money based on their own fraudulent alternative labs which are being sued as I write this for fraud. Go to an MD, don't waste your money.

[TheFriendlyEngineer]

@XforeverlongingX LOL sorry tried MD's(drug doctors) before and almost died and they SCAMMED me of over two thousand dollars for shit schemes and asanine drugs.The drug pushers contribute to thousands of people to die per year since they prescribe the shit drugs just to sell a product.Instead of dealing with the pharmaceutical companies with heavy lawsuits,lawyers should deal with the drug doctors who prescribed the shit to gullible victims,sorry "patients" RIP

[keeg021985]

@treebee69 Ha...I have the ability to recommend someone to see an MD, and I'm not defrauding people while doing it. MDs and ODs are the ONLY qualified people to treat ANY medical issues. Period. Show me the hard science behind these 'alternative' practices, and then I'll believe it.

[treebee69]

Sounds like you guys need to come to Canada our Naturopathic Doctors are amazing. They investigate the whole body and prescribe legitimate herbs building the human body's immune system, or treat the root problem. MD only see you for 5 seconds and give you a prescription to treat the symptom and not the root cause. I realize in the USA has far more scams in the ND field. However in Canada ND's are legitimate and well respected.

[XforeverlongingX]

@treebee69 "They wouldn't have such a long education if it were all bullshit" Nobody denies that psychological belief and delusion helps a patient medically. There is no proof for 99% of the nonsense that Naturopaths try to sell you. It's nonsense. There IS proof that most if not all of it doesn't work. Conclusive evidence that these herbs do to cure real ailments.

[DilutionDelusion]

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[hihosilverlining2]

Thank you for making this clear :-)

[goobergel]

while(doctor=naturopathic; doctor==idiot; ++intelligence) {

[doctor avoid];

[realScience seek];

}

[DilutionDelusion]

@goobergel

if(remedy == water || remedy == sugar_pills) { demandARefund(); holdProtestOutsideHomeopathicH­ospital(); lobbyGovernmentToStopFundingTh­isShitOnTheNHS(); throw NearestHeavyObjectAtQuackDocto­r();

}

[goobergel]

@DilutionDelusion your_response==nice:)

[MegaAstrodude]

@goobergel,

Your target audience wouldn't have use for a human doctor, or a doctor for organic life of any kind so what was the point of watching this?

[zeno2712]

What's the difference between naturopathy and homeopathy?

None. There is no difference. They are both pseudo scientific woo nonsense.

[essencestar]

@zeno2712 Mmmm. Not quite. Naturopathy, as he describes it, includes legitimate practices like nutrition therapy(like giving someone vitamin C to cure scurvy), and herbal alternative medicine(giving someone willow bark soup instead of lab-created acetaminophen).

On the other hand, Homeopathy, as he describes it, is the practice of giving poison to poison victims to try and make them better.

[zeno2712]

@essencestar I wonder how many naturopaths have given Vit C to scurvy sufferers?

As for willow bark and such like, someone once described such 'natural' therapies as giving unknown quantities and unknown strengths of unknown substances with unknown efficacy, unknown side effects and unknown safety.

[essencestar]

@zeno2712 Willow bark contains a known concentration of acetylsalicylic acid, also known as "aspirin". Pill forms of aspirin are made by heavily processing willow bark soup with various chemicals to dry it out and solidify it.

I assume you're aware of the fact that aspirin has been studied more thoroughly than almost any other drug known to man, and thus has far fewer unknowns than almost any nameable drug in modern pharmacology.

[zeno2712]

@essencestar

The concentration of acetylsalicylic acid varies from tree to tree depending on where and how it is grown.

Aspirin is entirely synthetic these days and highly controlled. In fact it was first synthesised over a century ago.

[markuscc]

@zeno2712 So you are trying to say that using proper diet and nutrition to prevent and reverse many diseases is pseudoscience? Sure there are a lot of bullshit naturopathic "doctors" out there but there are legitimate ones with enough common sense to leave out the completely unproven bullshit like homeopathy. I don't think it is unreasonable to say that a very high percentage of diseases are completely preventable through diet and lifestyle changes (and without drugs + their side effects).

[treebee69]

@zeno2712 You need to stop creating a reality of "one thing didn't work so it must all be bullshit" MD or ND both can either work or fail. The bottom line is herbs have chemical reactions on the body too. They wouldn't have such a long education if it were all bullshit.... Think about it. Cheers.

[RationalOutlet]

I have some snake oil that you could buy. Interested?

[BrendanIsCool]

@RationalOutlet yes, it must work!