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  • Resons Why The Demoman Is Overpowered.

    1: Stickies can be detonated at will with large blast radious and ridiculous damage. Short-long range.

    2: The grenade launcher is slightly less powerful, slightly smaller radious than SL but can be used to pwn anything at short-long ranges.

    3: 175 health. (High considering dmg output)

    4: Only slightly slower than spy. (Meaning quick fallback/attack times)

    5: Oftenly accompanied by a medic.

    6: Barrage of ridiculous melee weapons.

    ...

    And the list goes on.

  • Ugh. I completely agree. I don't think it's very fair that a sticky bomb can kill a sentry, an engineer, a dispenser, a scout, and a spy, all with just one sticky bomb!

  • This is the gayest song I have ever heard.

  • Why the dislikes? He is doing ownage and mltikills

  • the faggotry of this song is so overpowered that I don't even

  • STICKY NOOB

    thats why the nadelauncher was invented

  • The vid is fine stop judging people's taste in music, anyway yes they are but spamming isn't as easy as it looks. Not everyone can spam good.

  • @P0rKK4na Wrong, stickies deal base 120 damage, where grenades deal 90 to 110. Of course, grenades are more likely to be direct hits than stickies.

  • Actually i think stickies deal same ammount of damage as normal grenades but you can detonate em when u want to deal great damage... am i wrong?

  • And you're underpowered

  • You aren't even good.

    

  • Indeed they are overpowered, a slightly less arm time will make them perfect.

  • think this is bad

    there is a reason nobody plays console tf2

  • Well, if even the demoman is overpowered, the video is still bad.

  • EVERYTHING IS OVERPOWERED.

    even the scattergun can 2 shot classes.

  • Stickies are designed to be traps, an instant-kill to a turtling Engie, kill an over-healed Heavy, send an Ubered pair flying away, and to ward off intruders. They can be blown away by a Pyro's airblast and explosions, and are destroyed by any hitscan (bullet) firing weapon. Just because you're able to kill some players with a sticky launcher doesn't make it OP; rather, it means you should stop hating and get on with your life.

  • Valve need to nerf the stickes imo. The dominating demo's I see hardly use their grenade launcher. 50% damage reduction and having to target stickes to trigger them and a limit of 5 stickes placement is what I'd do.

  • @Luxai but then the whole point of using stickies would be nullified thus makeing the demoman useless in all situations

  • @alStrafee Maybe, but still, no class should sit on top tier for every situation like Demoman does, you are supposed to use diffrent classes for diffrent objectives.

  • @Luxai the stickies do an average of 80-90 damage and have a delay before they detonate making them useless at close range, nerfing them means turning the demo into a black useless turd.

  • @MegaDetH822 Then explain to me why they have always instant gibbed me?

  • @Luxai demos usually lay down 3 or 4 in one spot, causing massive damage

  • I was under the impression that they nerfed the shit out of the Demoman in TF2 PC

  • you suck massive balls, all you do is w+m1 and play against the same, and your taste in music is awful! GTFO TF2 and you tube newfag!

  • @domokunomgrun I rather liked the music choice. It wasn't a horribley over-used song. Kinda reminded me of Michael Jackson and a Christian Punk band fused together. Old MJ, by the way. not Dead MJ.

  • yo every gun in tf2 can be overpowered thats the way the game goes in a blink of an eye you can be dead thats just how the game works every class but the medic and scout can basically kill you in a second but scout can run circles around you and still kill u before you have an idea of whats going on

  • @XDME360 The Scout can kill you in a second as well. The scattergun can kill all classes (except the Heavy) in 2 Well placed shots. It's 3 for the heavy.

  • Sure it would seem that in the hands of a player who doesn't remember that he has a grenade launcher and spends all his time spamming stickies, yes it is overpowered. But under that logic the grenade launcher is overpowered as well, it does more damage per shot.

  • I agree. Demoman is OP.

    Today I played demoman for maybe the 3rd time ever. I got on top of the scoreboard without trying, just by spamming stickies everywhere. And the enemy team weren't complete noobs either.

  • @Airclot do that in tf2 lobby. i promise that wont be the case.

  • now try that on a big map, with all thows small hallways and plenty of medics on your team its no surprise you got all thows kills. about half the time you would not have survived or got your kills if it was not for a health source.

  • nice

  • Coheed + TF2 = ULTIMATE WIN

  • its just a game jesus to many trolls

  • well done youve graduated from noob univeristy majoring in sticky spamming and minoring in making bad frag vids

  • It's basically situational if you play against complete morons that cant stop pressing W no matter what I've held a point on my own for 4 min with the new SR and they just kept coming at me i actually got out of ammo.I liked the scout one at 4:12 :3

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  • @TF2Pyrosux little cutie

  • @TF2Pyrosux Lol this is coming from the same guy who uploaded the "Stop a Gaben" video xD you fucking suck and Pyro rocks.

  • @TF2Pyrosux your name sucks even more.

  • I would OWN you demo vs demo! rawr

  • you are wrong the player you show has skills i cant kill a level 3 sentry if i dont die a couple of times

  • You make your self look even more overpowered by standing ontop of the medkits...

  • You played a Demoman on Goldrush and did okay. Congratulations. Next you'll make a video as a Sniper on Orange_X and tell us the sniper rifle is OvP too.

  • its funny how many "pro" snobs there are in any given tf2 video. its true many pubs have a lot of noobs, but why be snobby about it?

  • Trolls who love demoman just don't want to miss overpowered demoman. All of them will suicide if he will be balanced and supposed to be a defence class instead of overpowered ofence. :p OH SHIT! Why I did just say that? Now I deserve an angry troll respond to me. :(

  • stickies are for demoboys that can't aim with the pipes

  • had to mute it, even if you are right.

  • I r <3 mah stickos.

  • that's why I never unequip my scottish resistance.

  • Yeah, well everyone's everything is overpowered too.

  • Congrats your ability to kill the average pub player that lack the ability to us the a or d keys amazies me...

    Learn a little about how the game actually works before posting videos that just make you look like an idiot.

  • @scruggs7 lol

  • @scruggs7 dude i bet you cant even hit your target so shut the fuck up noob

  • @SuperFirebullet You sir are living proof that birth control doesn't work,

  • @scruggs7 What are you talking about? He's raping everyone. And everyone else isn't. What does it matter if they are pub players or not? He's devastating them. Just because you main demo doesn't mean you have to bitch everytime somebody brings evidence that shows how bad he is.

  • @ArtsofOwnage What does it matter? with a skill level difference like that any of the combat classes can completly stomp a public game...

    Not to mention the second you put explosions in a closed area with players that dont know how to position themselves of course your going to get more kills then a sniper that kills one person then moves on to the next.

    You should probally know a little more about the game and stop posting steam forum nonsense

  • @scruggs7 If it kills the AVERAGE (most players) it's OP.

  • @FilmSnapper People that don't move or dodge away from stickies are not AVERAGE they are HORRIBLE

  • The demo is one of the toughest classes in the game to play well...don't bitch because you suck...

  • You were fighting a poor team full of unaware idiots

    You camped a health kit at one point, and had a medic in another clip

    True, the demo is powerful, as he should be..but what this video implys is that a soilder / heavy / pyro / skilled scout could'nt do exactly the same given the same advantages you had

  • i love this song XD

  • Stickies are op, but a couple of crappy killstreak runs is hardly good evidence.

  • what music name at 03:12?

  • They're only overpowered if you are camping, or you know how to use them well.

  • @lego312 The power of a weapon has nothing to do with it's use. The actual damage output per stickie and the short amount of time it takes to fire and detonate a stickie makes them overpowered. I've always said that the only real way to use stickies like a man is by using the Scottish Resistance. Not only does it remove the ability to stickie spam with it's target based and slow detonation, it also allows the user to set up his targets by picking what traps to set off at what time.

  • @DrKr0wbar sept for the scottish resistance is a pile of shit and the normal sticky launcher is vital for demoman... stickys can 2 shot most classes, scouts can 2shit most classes, soldiers can 2 shot most classes, and the direct hit can pretty much 1 shot any1. and using stickies "like a man" is a totaly retarded thing, you're obviously a moraly confused pub player

  • @emocelot Wow. Okay, first off the Scottish Resistance is a devastating weapon when used correctly, and can kill any class in either one detonation or a well placed chain reaction. Secondly, any class in the game can one shot any other class with a crit. Saying "this class can two shot this class" is bullshit because it depends on distance and aim. Also, I said using Pipes is for men. Pipes can two shot damn near anything. Sort your response out next time before you post nonsense.

  • @DrKr0wbar wow that's probly the most retarded thing i've ever read, of course it depends on aim and distance, dsnt change anything, and crits i would not even considder couting seeing as they aren't enabled in compet and are compleetly random. the scottish resistance is a tereble weapon beacuse it takes away over 90% of the demoman's offencive capability. and most classes can 2 shot most classes. the whole point is sticky bombs are perfectly balanced in the game

  • @emocelot Even without the crits enabled, the Stickie Launcher is still a cheap weapon. Look at the game and it's classes in their roles. Is the Demoman even listed as an offensive character? No. Not even in the slightest. The Scottish Resistance not only balances the game for the rest of the classes, it also puts the Demoman in his rightful place as a Defensive character.

  • @DrKr0wbar you have obviously never played competetive tf2, the demoman is the most important defensive and offensive class. if you want to argue that you can but thing is you're completely and utterly wrong. the game is balanced enough as it is and the demoman takes more skill then most classes in the game, the fact he doesn't have a normal gun is a massive handicap. looking at doors all game i NOT fun or effective in anyway realy... play the game properly then come back.

  • @emocelot Well I don't know how a base of no more than 200,000 competitive TF2 players can make the decision of what is and isn't "fair" for anyone else who plays the game. The Demoman is nowhere near a balanced class, and I don't even know what you were beginning to get at by saying that he doesn't have a "normal" gun. There's no such thing as a normal gun. Even though the Demoman doesn't have a gun that fires bullets, he's still an OP class. Explosive spam beats bullets last time I checked.

  • @emocelot The reason he't the most important offensive and defensive class is because he's OP, whoever has more demotards wins.The problem with him is in any game weapons are EITHER powerful OR versitile, the demo's weps are both, he requires no skill and mindlessly spamming nades or stickies will result in a good K/D without effort.

  • @Dodershift only vs retarded pub players, if you want to be GOOD at demo he is one of the most skilled classes in the game, by FAR playing against pub tards you can run around as a sniper with your melee out and get a good k/d...

  • @emocelot I play on "no heros" servers with some of the most skilled pub players and spamming nades and stickies still works fune.There is no skill in this silly over powered and all too easy class.

  • @Dodershift i agree with you, a camping demo sometimes can be very cheap, i'm not a good tf2 player but some demos got kills only with stickies, sometimes i need to ambush them with a shotgun(this happens when i'm playing as engineer)

  • I was able to watch the whole video. The music didn't make me run. Then again, I've always been HORRIBLE at hearing the lyrics.

    I didn't hear anything gay. O.o Poor me...:(

  • Ive got to say, this made my ears explode into 9,656,456 pieces. The singing implants an image of someone stuffing a carrot up their Granddad's ass. This song made me glad to be straight.

  • @Crossfire990 I thought it was because I had aids.. :O

  • You fighting nubs.

    Try fighting Pro players and you'll change your opinion in a heartbeat.

  • @1xadavid If they played pros it would support their statement. All "pro" demomen stickie spam and when targets are too close or they run out of stickies they grab their balls and shoot grenades like a man. Their use of the GL is rare, though.

  • and your computer is underpowered :)

  • And the kicker is that the only real counter to demospam are demoknights. Think about that. Many of the servers I play on have >50% of the players going demoman. If you play soldier, you get outdamaged by stickies and pipes. If you play pyro, you get gang banged by stickies and pipes and then get your head cut off. if you play heavy, you again get outdamaged by stickies and pipes. If you play engineer, it takes 1 demoman to wreck your shit.

    I'm constantly getting mvp playing demoknight.

  • I prefer the SR.

  • In the words of the spy...

    "You did a fine job of tossing your little balls around..."

  • So is that a woman or a man with his balls in a clamp that happens to be singing that? I honestly can't tell, it all sounds the same to me.

  • I think it's a guy, when I heard it the song wasn't nearly this high pitched. IT was actualy really cool sounding lol

  • youre doing a good job but youre merely playing against W+M1 players that are snacks for any classes

  • The demo cannot be "overpowered" by the simple fact that there can be Demo vs Demo.

  • I don't think the stickies ever were overpowered. The demoman is the hardest class to play, as he has no direct attack, and his pipes are hard to hit directly. If it were truly overpowered, you'd see more demos' on the xbox or PS3 than any other class, but you find that few play as them, and only a handful of those who do play as one are any use as one. They only rack up the huge number of kills when the other team don't play with any skill

  • You should be happy!

  • Demoman overpowered blablabla.

    retarded idiots :S a good soldier can take out demoman, the same with a good pyro airblasting the stickies/pipes. a good heavy, no wait, just a regular heavy can take him out.

    a good scout jumping around can take out his ass if he only play with stickies. only thing the stickies are useful for, is buildings. and ofc there have to be a class that gotta be able to take out builidngs easily, otherwise engi would be overpowered :P

  • uhh a pyro cant do shit except run away from a demos stickys, its a different story airblasting rockets. scouts are just like pyros, they need to get close to do damage, just sticky in their path. if a demo gets the first sticky out before the heavy drops his gun, its a good chance the demos gonna kill, if ur good enough. plus hitting heavys with nades is easy.

  • 1. pyros can easily reflect stickies, believe me i've mained pyro bfore.

    2. good socuts knows how to deal with stickies. its only easy to kill a scout if he is distracted by another of your teammate.

    3. dont mention the nades, we're talking about stickies ;)

  • yes but thats nearly a pure defensive tactic i cant see you getting too far with that

    Nades stickies who cares its basicly the same amount of damage,also heavys are a perfect target for nades.

    Deal with stickies... you mean run right over them? there's nothing you can do when you have sticky shot in your path but run away, scouts need to be in close range to do decent damage, meaning tards with force of natures will rush you all day making these kills almost routine.

  • once again you talking bullshit. demoman is basically NOT overpowered, soldiers can take him out EASY! stop whining just cuz you run into to them not even noticing it. stickies are not overpowered, you just gotta find a way to deal with them like reflecting them, shooting them, NOT running into them etc... :P

  • Whatever i own soldiers all day =)

  • LOL! ok join a ctf_bbal_fixed, and post a vid. of it. really wanna see it :P

  • nah i don't waste time on a custom maps, Lets see you in some random ass map you've never played before, you wouldn't do to well either.

  • omg ctf_bbal is the simplest map in the world, its a fucking basketball_map where you only play with soldier and demoman :P join it and try to play demoman vs the soldiers :P

  • basketball? LOL what kind of shit is that? sorry bro that sounds stupid as hell, i wouldent waste my time, come play ctf_turbine =]

  • Scouts can just drop you with their pistol if your being a bitchy demo and you plant stickies nearby, and if he's low on health, he can fake out and make you drop a whole crapload right next to yourself. Then you blow them up cause your an idiot. (hypothetically). Pyros can stay a good enough distance away from the first sticky in a mine field to not take damage from it while still blowing it away, and besides if the demoman doesn't plant any more, just shotgun the stickies.

  • the whole pistol thing is i would say wishful thinking at best =) . Its not big damage, you drop down those stickies for a reason bud, scouts who wish to stay alive will NOT come toward your path, your only hope is if the demo detonates himself first. The first sticky on the field is usually followed by the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc sticky if you didn't usually notice =P it'd be perfect for yourself to be so distracted as to shoot the stickies, you'll just have more thrown at your general direction.

  • I lasted 10 seconds before the emo fag music made me switch off. Anyone else do any better ?

  • @garystorey 10.1 :)

  • @garystorey It was hard but i did it the whole vid

  • @garystorey  11seconds

  • @garystorey i got to 21 ;p

  • @TheBronzejack Then your a gayer man than I

  • @garystorey got to 11 second but at the sake of being mentaly scard by the music

  • @garystorey I forced myself to get to 11 seconds just to beat you, but I have to admit it was very difficult.

  • @garystorey

    i managed to wath they whole video but before it started i threw my speakers out of the window

  • @garystorey

    I got to 11

  • @garystorey did you died

  • @garystorey lol this music isnt emo XD

  • @garystorey

    14 for me.

  • @garystorey i watched it to the end... but i think because i muted it i was disqualified from this "competition"

  • @garystorey 20 secounds:)

  • @garystorey 12 seconds.

  • @garystorey 100 secs.. can i haz cookiz naow?

  • @garystorey i made it through the whole thing.but i did mute it

  • @garystorey yeah, 40 here.

  • If you can play demo well with stickys your over powerd if your a shit demo man you cant kill anything and demoman is not the easiest class to play.

  • It took you like 5 stickies to kill a sniper than wasn't even moving. Buy a new game you worthless fucking noob.

  • he wasn't even aiming at him you retard, he was aiming at the guy behind him

  • NERF EVERYTHING

  • the eyelander alone isnt overpowered. the chargin targe or the shield with the eyelander is overpowered

  • Nah man, they're not overpowered. It's only overpowered on certain maps like goldrush or dustbowl. Show me some footage of like granary or badlands or gravelpit, and then I might believe you.

  • its not overpowered its an explosive your not supposed to live after that

  • @cyborgtroy Yesterday I died for a soldier with 1 hp and wearing an equalizer, he killed my with 1 crit hit and i barely had the time to shot him because he was as fast as a scout

    Soldiers now have the equalizer, the direct hit, which is annoying too, the boots, and the buffer

    Those are all usefull... while the only thing heavys have is the sandvich, you gotta be really close to de enemy to do a decent damage with natacha and the boxing gloves, and they don't make you fast with low HP

  • @4BUR4M3 i don't see why you can't just shoot the soldier if he only has 1 health..

  • force a nature, equalizer and eyelander

    Those are overpowered

  • @4BUR4M3 Equalizer is not overpowered. It only works well when the Soldier is about to die. Just get a Pyro to light him on fire, then stand back. If necessary, airblast to keep him out of melee range. Maybe get a Scout and Scattergun.

    Now, eyelander.. Possibly.

  • @cyborgtroy

    I disagree, the Equalizer is still a 2 hit kill on most classes on full health. (excluding demo, heavy, soldier). It's the shovel with a bonus, no downside.

  • If you have the equalizer and you are at 1hp and you crit an overhealed heavy, you will kill him in one shot.

    Just saying.

  • God damn...I'm sick and tired of people saying this and that about overpowered classes....it's not the class, it's the player playing it, and the noob he kills.

  • they aren't overpowered, you just know how to use them ;)

  • is the song from Cohid and Cambria???

  • They aren't overpowered. The only thing they need in terms of balancing is slightly reduced blast radius.

    It's bad enough that they lowered the amount of sticky bombs you can hold at a time, I don't want them to be nerfed next.

  • Its a valve game what do you expect?

  • god this song is horrible, stop listening to prepubescent boy bands

  • cool lag bro

  • your stupid its not overpowered if the demo player is that good

  • There over-powered cause you have to detonate them dumbass. Anyway you might be spending your life playing this game its overpowering.

  • This is stupid your playing against people who can't counter demo. Dumbass >_>

  • They r Umba but, in the hands of somebody like you i dont see them doing much Damage -.-'

  • only overpowered against noobs

  • Apparently walking out of your spawn point is being a noob.

  • wrong why do you think in competative tf2 only 1 demo is alowed racist ? dont think so :P

  • there not overpowered you just suck

  • @wakkanda

    lol?

    does that even make sense?

    he's owning in that game..

    so he sucks? xP

  • hes playing with noobs obviously do u see what there doing? fucking retarded..

  • Your comment makes no sense considering he's the one killing everyone in the video.

  • gay music

  • w+m1 ftw!

  • NICE SONG

    LOLNO

  • fuck you they are not overpowered

  • lol

  • your annoying music killed my left headset speaker -_-

  • lol i friggin good for doge the stickie whit the scout i get kill by stick only 15 time on 247 game

  • wow ur comps laggy

  • Step 1: fire stickies at enemy/group of enemy

    Step 2: backpeddle and continue firing stickies at enemy. If they chase you, fire stickies between yourself and them.

    Step 3: ???

    Step 4: PROFIT!

  • How did you manage with 17fps? lol

  • Lately I've managed to get top with sniping at 200-400 ping ha! ha!

  • 5 stars for song.

  • The music is Coheed and Cambria right?

  • Ya, you win!

  • Haha, just checking regonized Claudio's voice

  • maybe you are just too good.

  • this guy is too damn good