SC717 - G2 - Delphi (Z) vs ClouD (T) on Tal'Darim Altar

[Kogerii]

Crota called it. 

[ldaulaire]

Don't thumbs up spoiler comments

[playa6816]

Chicken07 yes terran have alot of advantages and options.  they are over powered.

[Mossdeep2]

Ok crota, ur vids are sooooo good, i love that right now u have 146 likes and NOOO dislikes!! awesome job man

[EcuadorianFlagShip]

He needed some zerglings to tank the seige damage, those banelings melted way to quickly

[sc2log]

Come on guys show some respect there are too many people calling names on this channel. Remember not everyone is a native English speaker. Show your smart by politely trying to understand and or help those that don't know what their talking about.

[redshirtspeaker]

at this level of gameplay do you really need to tell us which units are in the campaign and not in the multiplayer? come on man youre not preaching to first time watchers.

[dhtjlghks]

@redshirtspeaker he said "someone asked me"

so he was just explaining to the person that asked, and for future reference

[A4moondoggy]

so i guess the trick is when you see four hellions with blue flame you need to pump roaches and lings on two bases and attack immediately before tanks and marines mass up. i'll try and remember it.

[Darkener909]

i think marines are too good espically with stimpack including mauraders :/

and medivacs heal to quickly and and ehh zerg just needs a better splash damage unit

banglings dont cut it anymore oh and siege tanks attack so quickly when not out of siege mode and when theyre in siege mode the zone which siege tanks cant attack is soooo small sorry if i sound like im whinning i just feel like blizzard really needs to find out how to balance terran cuz with theyre spddy attack, aoe, and damage its Bleh

[8jb65]

This map is the most imba map for terran since Lost Temple.

[Sj0wKOoMel]

Love your shout outs bliz, you always make me laugh with your robot voice comment.

however if you just slow down your talking and prenounce your words more clearly and don't change your mind on what you are going to say midsentence. it would be a lot better cheers

[bigslik20]

that was poor use of banelings not the tanks being op

[aschenpuddle]

best of 2? ^^

[frink81]

The mic sounds kinda funny to me, it sounds like the treble is too high and there is a little bit of static.

[Moonshield23]

Terrans have more units than the other races

[bigslik20]

@Moonshield23 nope protoss have 14 terran has 13

[0thRside]

i think he had to just create more roaches instead of useless banelings

[GraveUypo]

@8:47 first time since siege tank nerf i had that "wow that was unfair" feeling about seige tanks. i cant believe 5 or so tanks managed to take down so many banelings and roaches

[chiken070707]

just super fast. people could say its kinda like mutas, but the thing is mutas are way more expensive than helions, take way longer to tech to, and are absolutly melted by any aa. I swear even magic boxing thors isnt cost effective because you will still lose some mutas and mutas are sooo expensive, really a thor only has to kill 3. btw thor is another teran aoe unit whats up with that?

[GraveUypo]

@chiken070707 here's food for thought:

siege tanks are the only units that does friendly fire in the game

aoe from hellions is so thin it cant hit units side by side no matter what. heavy armor penalities and very slow attack speed

thor's aoe is 1. units literally have to be stacked to be hit. same problems as hellions

p has storm colossus & archon

z has ultra fungal muta (well, kinda) & baneling

t has tanks hellions thor seeker missile & nuke, with the last two being close to useless.

[WideLoadProductions1]

@GraveUypo Ht's do friendly fire with Storm.

[GraveUypo]

@WideLoadProductions1 oh yeah, there's that. i knew i was forgetting something

[GraveUypo]

@WideLoadProductions1 well actually thinking back i meant from auto attacking. for spells theres seeker missile too with friendly damage

[joelpalkia]

@GraveUypo ultralisks are fail, so dont count them. and who said nukes were close to useless, they are good if used well. sides, hellions are harrassers, u cant compare them with seige tanks.

[chiken070707]

Terran mech is really a ball buster for zerg because you have massive aoe damage to light units from helions and massive aoe damage to armor (and massive aoe damage in general) from seige tanks. it just seems really lame that terran can make 2 pairs of two units and like two shot large groups of zerg units. im not saying terran is imba because zerg can win, it just seems like zerg has to try a heckuvalot harder to micro. it seems like roaches should do better against helions, but helions are

[fbruvik]

@chiken070707 Roaches should do better against hellions? Jeeeez. 3 roaches can kill 10 blueflamed hellions. Stop making a fool out of yourself. Just make massinfestors against everything terran can make and you win.

[SalsaSalling]

@chiken070707 Agree, same with protoss. Make Marauders, siegetanks and vikings and you have won.. Immortals ain't gonna do much against an army of marauders and marines with stim.. Its ridicilous.

[joelpalkia]

@SalsaSalling collosus phoenix stalker, thats the counter to it, but if u compare resources used and micro/macro, yeah, terrans army is a little easier to make.

[SalsaSalling]

@joelpalkia Specially because stimmed marines kill phoenix soooo fast

[joelpalkia]

@SalsaSalling thats what the collosus is for, its kinda like rock paper scissors, collosus kill marines, marines kill phoenixes, phonixes kill vikings, vikings kill collosus.

[SalsaSalling]

@joelpalkia Yea but IMO is it easier for the Terran player, he just needs to stim his marines and then move his vikings back. I think Vikings needs a range nerf.

[joelpalkia]

@SalsaSalling yeh, maybe a range of 7-8 shud be fine, maybe add a little buff like movespeed increase by 0.05 ? idk...

[SalsaSalling]

@joelpalkia Yea its hard to balance, but I really think marauders should be nerfed. I mean, its almost impossible to stop a marauder early push in 2v2 if it is double terran vs double protoss. Im playing with a diamond friend and he doesnt even know how to counter it. Forcefields can't do much if you aren't in a choke and stimmed marauders just kill stalkers and can micro from zealots. :/

[joelpalkia]

@SalsaSalling nah, marauders dont nid to be nerfed, a tip for u as a protoss against marauders is if u 4 gate, get sentry+ zealot, if u 2 gate+ 1 robo, get immortals and sentries, if u 2 gate+ 1 stargate, get void rays. the best is if 1 of u gets a large army, and the other macro. i feel the things that terran nid is to buff ghosts, and nerf marines and vikings.

[SalsaSalling]

@joelpalkia heh true, are you a terran player?

[joelpalkia]

@SalsaSalling in a way,yes since i play random :P

[olyfag]

@chiken070707

Solution: Make mutalisks

[davidjmarkus]

@chiken070707 2 pairs of units that can't shoot up...I think you know where I'm going with this.

[sanutchong]

@chiken070707 The thing is Z was Out-Teched by T. Cloud went to T3 Marine, Medivac, S.tank and Blue Flame-H. Z needed to scout more and go for Fungal Growth at least.

[enjolraslechimiste]

@chiken070707

What the hell are you talking about? Mutalisks completely destroy hellion/tank!

[sc2ai]

@enjolraslechimiste

What terran ever makes hellion/tank against zerg. It's marines hellions tanks.

[enjolraslechimiste]

@sc2ai

Read the original comment, dumbass. He said two units, and talked about hellions and tanks. And even if it's marine tank, fine, muta-baneling does just fine.

[DevilsPortuguese]

@chiken070707 just say it...zerg is underpowered.

[enjolraslechimiste]

@DevilsPortuguese

Quit bitching. The fact that you suck at Zerg does not make zerg under-powered.

[ZomgitsaznZ]

@chiken070707 well zerg does have fungal growth which does massive damage to terran MMM balls

[mbeck1986]

Stop thumbs uping the guys that have their dicks up crotas ass. how about someone with something to say about the game.

[agostinho1234]

i dont know why i have this urge to always made jokes about delphi, comparing him with C++, html and others...

Even more with Cloud (cloud computing). That's when i kno that i should sleep

[saltynut11]

I think he should of pumped out some zerglings near the end to try and swarm the seige tanks.. they were in pretty vulnerable positions.

[ChuckyB06]

I agree with Gandoan. You're the shit Crota. The new mic sounds great to me.

[geraldkho]

@ChuckyB06 At first I read your comment as "You're shit Crota". I was about to rage respond.

[R5123]

@geraldkho me too

[pklong88]

@ChuckyB06 People love "You're the shit Crota" more than "You're awesome Crota", lol. Guess i'll have to add more "shit" in my comments to be able to get highest rated comment someday :D

[Gandoan]

you're awesome Crota, keep up the good work