Birds team up to grab a bite to eat

[arky3000]

it pulled the string because it was put in front of it, this test was stupid and flawed!

[TheReasonWhyGuy]

@arky3000 agreed

[Charlymaumushi]

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[asseeninYOURDREAMS]

.. i could live without knowing this...

[hamsterpoop]

@asseeninYOURDREAMS

my butt

[geewyllikers]

I leave for work early in the morning. We have three large apple trees behind our house. One morning without warning I opened the service door on our garage to leave and saw something so amazing I stood still in my tracks just to watch.There were maybe a dozen birds flying back and forth carrying apples away from the ground under the middle apple tree. And, on top of the apple tree was a single bird picking apples and dropping them to the gound as fast as he could.

[deiutz]

from this video I get the feeling that the birds had no ideea they were cooperating. the fact that both hands retracted at the same time obviously made the birds act at the same time. had there been a wall between them, i suspect they would have acted the same way

[canomarquina]

i agree, this experience should be repeated with the strings placed before the birds even saw them and then just leave them anywhere near to see what happens.

[batameez913]

or you should try to put one string later than the first, but i agree completely with you guys, they just happened to tug simulatneously

[featheredape]

As one of the authors of this study I'm amazed by the negative comments. I'm afraid that the New Scientist report was not accurate. The rooks had to pull the strings together otherwise the string would pass through 2 hoops and so couldn't be used to pull in the food. Will post a better video. They also wait for their partner. No, we didn't spike the string with rooknip! No, the birds weren't starved. They spontaneously cooperated, just like chimpanzees. No other animal has done this before.

[silverbakuk]

I like the research direction however on the basis of the methodology and results of your work I am personally not convinced that these rooks were co-operating. I look forward to seeing future research.

[redgitter]

I had a pet rook once...no wait, it was a pet rock, nevermind.

[Smolous]

Wild Rooks can be tame but I don't know if that makes them intelligent or not. A Rook used to visit my house for food. It probably learned this behaviour somewhere else, however most Rooks I have encountered in my garden are not timid. It would tap on my window until I opened it. It would fly inside and land on my arm or shoulder and I would feed it. It was often quite happy just to sit on me whilst I watched TV. I had to be careful not to laugh or smile because this Rook liked to peck at teeth.

[gretliv]

Aww. Rooks can be intelligent. And im pretty sure they are.

But thats one tame rook you got there! Ive never heard of rooks doing that...

[AlliWooLang44]

They're very intelligent birds! Those rooks were very impressive doing that with the string.

[gretliv]

wow! such smart birds!

i dont know what you guys are moaning at, this is great! what do you expect these birds to do for you? dance while juggling the food?

[tmgsephiroth]

they dident cooperated...! the other bird was never nesserery. and right bird throw him self over the others food.. coop?.. noop!

[BloomingWithJoy1]

I bet they spiked the string with rook-nip.

[m05c0]

no rooks were harmed at any time during this video heheh

[KynosaurTheMighty]

m05c0 (19 hours ago)

"no rooks were harmed at any time during this video heheh"

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*for the most part - the one that did had it coming ^^

[ipwnnab]

videos posted by : newscientistvideo are shit ..keep those animals starving and they wil find a way to eat they dont team up;)

[Harryb91]

They simply learnt individually that if they pulled the string, thier end of the tray would move towards them.

They weren't co-operating.

[puppetmurder]

so why did they share the food?

[YoutoobSam]

Same action, same time. They just wanted the string that they were trained to grab to eat.

I'm sure humerously that the rook closest to the camera went to the other one to say "**** off this is my food". Unwittedly not knowing he just got his own bowl. Therefore it's still an unintelligent creature. I think i've made my point.

[Niemenzki]

You are probably right on this one. But have you seen the video where a crow first uses a tool to get a stick, which it uses to get the food? And this without training, but using logic.

[Niemenzki]

I forgot the "link"

/watch?v=4RpOGYYKdaQ

[HosoiHitops]

k...

[dominokat07]

They weren't so much "cooperating" as they were unwittingly doing the same thing at the same time.

[Gicior]

Sigh, more bad science presented via newscientist.

[gigantul]

what is wrong with new scientist lately... this video proves nothing.

[allenamerica]

ha! yeah what the hell kind of science was this?

[zueq]

OK MY FIRST TIME OF KNOWING A BIRD NAMED ROOK. sorry caps

[DamienZshadow]

you took the time to apologize for caps without changing? how freakin lazy is that?!

[zueq]

now Iam embarrassed...

[NoahUF]

All this experiment proved is that birds like to pull strings...

[FetidToecheese]

Exactly - they don't know the other one is doing the same thing, they just see the food coming out - that's not co-operation at all..

They should give me their grant money ;)

[Rabidrainbows]

actually they are intelligent. When there is left over cat food outside, they will eat it. But if they notice that I am looking through the blinds, they run away. It's weird I didn't know their little eyes could see me, but they are smart. They notice the slightest change.

[superfisto]

Up until I saw this video I had no idea that there were birds named rooks.

[mungbeanman]

So ultimately proving nothing. Ahem.

[DamienZshadow]

proving their Null Hypothesis that the Rooks aren't very capable of cooperation. This is just one of many similar experiments performed on other animals to find human traits such as cooperation for a greater good. Humans may cooperate to obtain something and even share the goods but Chimpanzees won't regularly share the food if it's not abundant and the dominant one will hoard more than enough for itself.

Just because they disproved the hypothesis doesn't mean they shouldn't cover the experiment

[mungbeanman]

I never said they shouldn't have done the experiment but perhaps they could have published under a different title. Asking "Do rooks team up to grab a bite to eat?" would be a little less misleading is all.

[DamienZshadow]

Yea, I suppose the title is a little misleading...what a disappointment lol

[CallumPRobertson]

"-the dominant one will hoard more than enough for itself." - Hey - its a bit like large nations!

[DamienZshadow]

Heh, I won't disagree with you, but that is more focused the Human population or at least in vast numbers where we act more like a colony of bees than a mammal herd. Traits like that would then be apparent as they would be in an insect colony only looking out for themselves.

[merrett]

"Dominant one will hoard more than enough for itself."

Like in Zombie Panic

[DamienZshadow]

exactly.

[ballyboneman]

Well proving that headline writers for science mags can be as deliberately sensationalist and misleading as any tabloid hack.  :(