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  • vamos Argentina!!!

  • @Diosukekun PART 2: The interesting part though is to talk about the "origin" of such laws, and discuss whether they require a deity or not. But this cannot be achieved by using arguments such as "it looks like it was made by someone".

  • @Diosukekun PART 1: Since when did anybody say that this foamy patteren is just a big coincidence. It's called the laws of physics. I doubt you'd say the same thing for all the planets being spherical. But that's because you understand why they are spherical. You're argument is based on ignorance, in my opinion one cannot debate on the existence of god(s) because of patterns, since the laws of physics can describe them without the need for a deity.

  • Fractals?

  • now if this isn't evidence for a common designer, then i don't know what is! either we have to take a huge leap of faith and assume it's nothing but a giant cosmic coincidence or accept the fact that those patterns are very obvious evidence for intellignet design. our brains are good at detecting these patterns because god created us in his own image assuming it's all mere coincidence is laughable...

  • @Diosukekun "cosmic coincidence"?? it is just the way these materials behave. Do you think the fact that marbles, balls, swiss cheeses, coins, etc are round is evidence that planets are man made? (and suns, and air bubbles in water, and...)

  • lol at the end

  • Instead of being concerned that caffeine has a similar effect as marijuana on spider webs considering how much you drink, maybe you should smoke more marijuana.

    I kid...somewhat. I think the MJ is vastly overrated as a nasty drug that will ruin your life. All kinds of prescription meds that have similar intended effects are certainly more dangerous in terms of side effects.

    Anyway that ends this digression...I blame you for posting the picture. I've never even used MJ anyway :p

  • please do a vid on infinity

  • themselves everywhere where there are seemingly "random" foam or cellular like formations...thank you!

  • I respectfully ask this question to prof Moriarty: How was a bidimentional pattern converted into a tridimentional pattern, while only keeping in mind bidimentional area and perimeter when a tridimentional shape would have a very random volume dispertion. If you have a science paper, would it be possible to forward it to myself. I am very curious about this.

    Are these selective patterns, in which you've noticed similarities and then worked out the framework. Or do these patterns reproduce...

  • @xexhorderx I was also concerned that some of those "patterns" of nanoparticles and galactic structures were simplified to shapes that were then quantized. I see more continuously changing lines in the original pictures that aren't obviously quantifiable in the number of sides.

  • Looks like I need some benzadrene.

  • They gave marijuana to spiders? Hahaha science is awesome xD

  • Then they gave the spider a lap dancer and made it the happiest spider in the world! :D

  • Where's Alan Turing when we need him!

  • Voronoi! What a lovely and useful thing

  • zero mention of voronoi tessellation? wow...

  • I was gonna build a web until I got high

  • I can hardly understand what he is saying. Does this have any scientific value. these patterns exist everywhere. A great example is the grain structure of alloys. Ok, I get it now.

  • I'm always surprised at how often he doesn't slap his coffee across the room with the amount of hand-talking he does. :P

  • I would have thought that spiders would have been too stoned out to build any webs at all! :)

  • wow.....a cute, intelligent breeder. how rare!

  • @dstdvl golly... an old puff with an attitude problem, how tedious.

  • @nilbud old puff, ok...fair enough, if rude. but attitude problem? don't get that.  i love this guy, and i'm GLAD he's breeding.

  • fractals

  • wow that last part about the study done with the spiders is so fascinating!!

  • As an scientist looking for certain patterns you should watch this documentary: /watch?v=V4Cx9gz_i6E

    You should also listen to this man (Peter Russel) to understand why this may be like that, however first impression you will have is that the topic of lecture is not quite connected with the problem but mind of the universe is as simple as ours, to choose one pattern and use it allover the place because it all thinks and is aware of the other: watch?v=M8AXmJdmzfM

  • 3:13 OMG real life Minecraft O..o

  • @GagyiLaszlo put your iron pick away or ill ban you :D 

  • your a very good direct teacher

  • The guy under me, HATERS GONNA HATE.... i love the video...

  • This video seems to suggest by absence that there is no quantifiable link between the various cellular patterns. Notice him saying how they quantified and logged data but then he abruptly ignores any conclusions drawn from it and tries to distract us with stoned spiders.

  • @vadertuber Seems to suggest by absence, that's your premise?

  • @nilbud This video makes grand claims and doesn't have any substance behind it. If you're watching it for pretty pictures or to be awed by mumbo jumbo thats your prerogative. I personally felt insulted having to sit through 8 minutes of an interesting story without any actual information to digest. In their other videos I actually learnt something, did you feel like you learnt something here or did you just appreciate a glow derived from stories about hidden knowledge?

  • @vadertuber

    Which particular aspects of the video do you feel are "mumbo jumbo"? The application of statistical crystallography to cellular network patterns is a well-established area of physics. I suggest Googling "statistical crystallography cellular network" for a wide range of papers in this field.

    The links between different cellular networks, spanning a wide range of length scales, have been examined by Weaire and Rivier.

    .contd.

    Philip Moriarty (speaking in video)

  • @vadertuber

    ..contd..

    In particular, Rivier makes an elegant analogy between the ideal gas law and the equation of state for the ideal random cellular network. He shows that in some cases it is the mathematics of space-filling, and not the physics and chemistry of the formation process, that drives the structure of a cellular network/foam.

    You can dismiss this as "mumbo jumbo" if you like, but it'd be helpful to provide some evidence to support your criticism!

    Philip

  • @Moriarty2112 Thanks. You've done exactly what I said this video doesn't do. Actually give some useful information to digest, I really do appreciate your input on this. I will have a look at your references and am sure they will fill the hole of knowledge this video left in me.

  • @vadertuber

    The Sixty Symbols videos are targetted at as wide an audience as possible. It would not be appropriate to spend the time talking about the minutiae of statistical crystallography. We can't (and don't want to) get into too much technical detail in five/ten minutes.

    My motivation for doing the video was to present the interesting parallels between different cellular networks. If the video then encourages people, like yourself, to do more research that's great!

    Best wishes,

    Philip

  • Why does he call d-amphetamine "benzedrine"? I thought it was called Dexedrine in the UK.

    Funny how the synthetic drug is the most disorienting to the spider.

  • @opiumgland my guess is that the drug has a benzene ring molecule attached to another set of molecules and that benzedrine is just a shortened version of the name using chemistry nomenclature. dexedrine and ampthetamine may be more so pharmaceutical jargon, but idk., Just my guess:p

  • the spider web study is very interesting, though i don't believe the caffeine and cannabis results look that similar... the cannabis one is obviously better

  • 3:10 <--- That's incredible. I never knew such rock formations existed in nature!

  • 0:53 A delicious, ice cold, brewed to perfection, foam like pattern

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  • A spider on Special Brew will build a tiny bench and a spider on Stella will eventually have a fight with another spider or beat up a lady bird. I like the marijuana one... that 'gap' in the web - that's not laziness or forgetfulness - it's where the spider's dreams are.

  • If you give marijuana to a spider, it will build a hammock

  • Very voronoi'ish

  • fractal geometry algorithms. naturally occurring repeatable patterns in different structures.

    like Fibonacci

  • Oh, Patterns.....speak slower...please, Sigh.

  • @stirlingfromla he isn't talking too fast, he is just very exited :)

  • @FatalMissEllen It's all the caffeine lol

  • give the spiders Both caf and mj, c what webs they get. I hear thats the best way anyhow! =}

  • Does a mathematical plotting of the shapes and their pattern of organization describe what causes the patterns?  Doesn't seem it would. However, something is evident in all these patterns: their similarities, and AT VASTLY DIFFERENT SCALES. Something is common to them, effecting in a similar way. Could it be related somehow to known constants in Nature? The measured exactness of some constants is always an astonishing feature of physical systems.

  • I am interested to know how foam theory relates to quantum mechanics. Perhaps also if foam theory relates to electron placement in large atoms.

  • so.. is there a way of perhaps making a nanoparticle colloidal suspension, frothing it up and therefore forcing your NPs to form these patters?

  • Do we have a mathematical model for these foam patterns? What is the underlying principal which affects the micro and macro in such a similar fashion? Amazing stuff, the cosmic filament can be expressed in the same terms as a coffee stain! Man, I love science.

  • I bet that paper with the dots have something to do with the Golden ratio. :)

  • you are concerned, probably because you have been brainwashed in regard to pot

  • I think these patterns are usually made where forces would try to make circles, but the circles impose on each other and make straight lines as the edge of polygons. Then the spaces between the bigger polygons are forced to be smaller polygons by default. Hard to prove mathematically, I imagine.

  • @culwin That's a very perceptive comment. For the nanoparticle network I show in the video the process you describe is exactly what happens. .The same type of dynamics occurs for a wide range of systems, including polymer (plastic) thin films on various surfaces.

    There are many other processes that can generate foam/froth structures, however. I strongly recommend Philip Ball's "Self-made Tapestry" for an excellent description of pattern formation in Nature.

    Philip (speaking in video)

  • It didn't sound like he was finished! I want more!!  What are the statistical results of comparisons between foam structures? What are the physical properties of the structures? Why do they form?? What are the implications - or applications??!

    Very nice!

  • @Abnormalized I could drone on for hours on this topic - be thankful that YouTube has a ten minute time limit! I recommend three great books: "Universal Foam", Sidney Perkowitz; "The Self-made Tapestry", Philip Ball; and, for a slightly more technical discussion, "The Physics of Foams", Weaire and Hutzler.

    I didn't have time to discuss Denis Weaire's work on foams in the video. The Wikipedia entry is worth reading - note the link between Weaire's work and the 2008 Olympics...

    Philip

  • thc ftw

  • awesome vid!

  • HAHAHAHAH i laughed so hard when you spoke about the drugged up spiders. Anyways really interesting!

  • Great stuff.

  • Wow very interesting!

  • just keep talking about this

  • Two words: Fractal reality.

  • Look at the statistics of coffee related diseases and compare them to marijuana! Especially the anual amount of deaths.

  • @eltotoX Yes, now compare the productivity gained from people doing coffee with the productivity gain with people doing marijuana! HA

  • @MaBuSt HA what? It is a myth that people are lazy when they smoke cannabis, I can be very productive when i am stoned, when i drink coffee however i seem to make more minor errors and have to go back and correct them.

  • @s3ss1ons ive been around and amazingly large number of high people. They are often productive, at playing video games and laughing.

  • @MaBuSt Good for them, they are probably unproductive people when not high though. Don't fall for the stereotypes it just makes you look ill informed.

  • @s3ss1ons I am ill informed in the sense that I have not conducted a large scale randomized study on this topic, nor specifically read any. Any evidence I present will be anecdotal, but unless you can offer me said research materials, yours is also anecdotal. You quoted your own behavior, a single data point, while I was in proximity to a mecca of sorts for marijuana use. We can go on about that population being particular based on geography if you want, but at least I offered more data points

  • @MaBuSt lol, yes i only gave myself as an example, but i could have said that me and my friends can be very productive when stoned, i could have offered more examples, hence offering more data points, but i didnt, not because its not true but because i didn't want to hijack the comments section with a discussion about cannabis especially when the video is about foam. If you want a discussion PM me.

  • @MaBuSt "I am ill informed in the sense that I have not conducted a large scale randomized study on this topic, nor specifically read any.".

    Well then case settled. You are to do some more reading before continuing this discussion.

  • Mmm... The paper looks like a voronoi diagram.

  • @Kargoneth That's exactly what it is! We've used Voronoi tesselations a lot in our work.

    Philip

  • Yup, this is absolutely fascinating!

    I'd love to learn more about this

  • coffee is just as "harmful" as mary jane, yes.. btw, isn't this related to fractal dimensions and the mandelbrot set?

  • Wow very cool! Would like to see more on this.

  • That is crazy.

  • Absolutely fascinating and keep up the good work!

  • amazing video, psyched when seeing a new vid from you guys in my sub. box every time!

  • @Acid113377 Hear, hear! I love the Nottingham science guys. :)

  • beer... is the best

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  • Why look at it like that? Think of it as showing how innocent thc is. jk.

    It gets me excited to think about how much you can think about all the things we al take for granted.

    I tend to do that a lot and it's one of the main reason why I don't get bored very easily.

  • this is fucking awesome

  • Ablolutly brilliant! The concistancy of chaos is a beauty ;-))

  • Hmm that cafeïne story is very disturbing indeed!

  • It can also be seen on the surface of the sun !

  • @0815tobey Its called supergranulation I think, maybe I am wrong.

    They need a video on the Golden Ratio on this channel, if there isn't one already on it. That is also a fascinating pattern found in nature.

  • @Untemperedsteel There's a pretty neat video (artistic, rather than strictly informative) on the Golden Ratio over on Vimeo: vimeo{dot}com/9953368

  • @0815tobey Indeed and in that case it's due to convection. Similarly, convection - specifically, a process called Benard-Marangoni convection - can produce cellular patterns in fluids and suspensions of nanoparticles, small molecules, and polymers. Convection, and more generally hydrodynamics, leads to a wealth of fascinating patterns. There's a lot of research into how to "tame" and control convection so as to produce well-organised nanostructures.

    Philip (person speaking in video)

  • I have always wanted to visit the Giants Causeway and now I have another reason to go see the rocks.

  • I wonder what would that spider do on speed :D

    And yes, this experiment is legit, compare with "caffeine" article on Wikipedia.

  • Are you serious?! The spider's experiment was REAL?! 0.o

  • caffeine worries me deeply...

  • @hla27b I think that's going to be a common response. Looking at the caffeine spider's web did get me thinking about my habits.

    You know, maybe the webs should be added to the list of things they show people when talking about the effects of various substances. I've never had an "example" mean a thing to me before this one; even the "brain activity" scans led to more "that's interesting" than reflection.

  • For more information on the crack spider's bitch...

  • ill bet this dude takes like 5 hour long bubble baths

  • @panzuman Don't you? Bubble baths are awesome!

  • The marijuana spider did a lot better then the caffeine spider.

  • The alchol spider died.

  • Wow the cells at 6:49 looks like onion cells under a microscope. Very cool.

  • Thin line between insane and fascinating. The human mind does seek patterns in nature otherwise we would just see everything as a blur. That being said, anytime I see a "natural" pattern I think (entropy+crystal)/time=pattern and try not to obsess about the endless streams of data.

  • This is awesome.

  • obvious 4 sided one in the centre of the purple/pink one

  • @T1carus i saw that :)

  • I think he is one of the only people on this channel not using a mac. #LOL

  • @TheFusionIcon then hes the coolest.

  • @BIGGGY305 If only he used Linux, then he would be 1337! lol

  • @TheFusionIcon LOL thats true

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