millions died in the west's great leap forwards too.... otherwise known as industrial revolutions. 2 in 5 children were not expected to live to 5. Notice how they never mention this on TV? ;) dosent make the failure of GLF any different but more people need to realise this.
I understand communists in 1914, but communists in 2011 are mentally ill or very ignorant people. Look the difference between South Korean and North Korea and stop your mambo jambo. Communism failed. Get over it
@thatkindofguy234 yes, they have state and i guess they have currency... Well, thank God they are not 100% communists because half of north koreans could be dead
@thatkindofguy234 A leader can make mistakes, bad programs, but an honest leader stop his reforms inmediately. Mao insisted in his policy for years. Reports of death meant nothing for arrogant, cruel communist leaders
The Chinese are not mother fuckers. they are a a people who for many, many years, have been oppressed, made brain dead with the teachings of brain dead leaders. it's all about control. this is one of many reasons why the Chinese government gets totally fucked off and sensitive to anything that shames the government.
THE PARTY MUST ALWAYS LOOK PURE AND GOOD.
it's just a load of communist bullshit. and they can never stop the truth leaking out.
Dear Chris Yang. Thank you so much for uploading part of the Great Leap Forward documentary. I've been trying to find it for years ever since it disappeared from our library. Do you remember the name and publisher? I thought it was Living the Revolution but I think I'm wrong. Thank you for any information you can give me. I teach Chinese history and this documentary has the best footage and interviews of any I've seen.
Mao did totally rock!!! Do not stop it of the MISINFORMACION. Is a TRUE leader of the People of China!! Live glorios glorios Comrade Mao and proud Republic of China!! We FULL support you!! Together with our China brothers in arms the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuelas noble Bolivarian Proletariat will fight against facism imperialism captalism and world oligarchy!! Live Dictatorship of the Proletariat!! Go Comander Chavez!!! Soon we do our own Great Leap Forwar
@hugocaracas2021 Except of course for the fact the the Great Leap Forward was badly planned, lead to a decrease in production of goods, and directly caused a famine which killed about 40 million people.
@Gubbywubby I dont know if you are a CIA agent pay to say facist lies or only ignorant. if ignorant you need to reeducate. Look how Cina is the omost powerful country!!! Thank you Mao!! Long live the memory of glorios Comrade Mao!! Now we make our own Great leap Forward!!! Go Comander Chavez!!! Live the Moaist Republic of Venezuela!!!
@hugocaracas2021 Yes, China is now a powerful country, but that does not discount the amount of human suffering caused during Mao's regime. Furthermore, much of the real progress in China only took place under as a result of Deng XiaoPing's rule, during which he reversed much of what Mao had done. China is currently not a communist country. I am not ignorant, I have studied the period extensively.
@Gubbywubby Many people beg Mao not to continue his politic but he have the corage to say no to facism. Only by tireless fighting of the captalists can China be great! Yes coward oposition people makes a lot of noise and protest but Chairman Mao smash those who criticize. As Comrade Stalin afirms: "You cant to make an omellete without to break a few eggs". We therefore saluite the corage of Chairman Mao!! Live Mao Live China!!!
@hugocaracas2021 First of all, communism and fascism are not the only options. There are many intermediary ones. Secondly, since Mao's death, China has only been communist in name, not in reality. Mao did do good in China, he did begin to bring industry to China, for example, but the human cost was far too great. The increases in production were not that great, all the iron produced by peasants was useless, and his policies caused a famine which killed 40 million. Nice idea, not so nice reality.
@hugocaracas2021 Your blind support does an injustice to the hundreds of thousands of people his policies killed - the very people he apparently tried to save from oppression.
He was arrogant, abusive, opportunistic, self-centered and individualistic in every sense... everything which a communist is meant to be against. As for Chavez, I believe him to be a man of good intentions but, honestly, his growing power will corrupt him beyond return.
@Lukege15 CIA pays how much to write lies? REad history Comarde open youre eyes get reeducate to liberate youre mind. Mao is the greatest leader maybe exept Stalin EVER!!! China is world #1 powrr thans fullly to Mao. Mao give dignity and hman right to the Proletariat. In Venezuela now we have our Great Leap Forward. No on eunsurt our Comander Chavez!!! NOONE get Comander Chavez out of power!!! In Venezuela is 0 corrupcion not like before with facist corruct leaders. Learn and educate Comrade!
@hugocaracas2021 The KBG and Chinese government pays you how much to try to indoctrinate the masses?
Do you really believe Venezuela has no corruption? You no NOTHING about Venezuela, did you know wonderful Chavez is still dispossessing American Indians of their lands - violently - while exploiting their plight in his propaganda? I love socialism, but I'm still not deluded.
@Lukege15 more lies by this facist disguise like a soclaist but I dismask you. Infiltratior es a tipical estategy of Washington CIA. You lie about Indians. Indians fully suport to the Comander. Our Revolusionary Governmet give too much things to the Indians of Venezuela. Always they want more but the Comander has give MANY things to the Indian and give them social justice.
desire for more corn? If you desire more corn you will see less corn. If you desire day you will see night. If you desire law you will see, that is, become aware of crime. Whatever you desire, you will notice the opposite. Deisre is the problem. Desire keeps you bound to what you don't want.
Why do you want to be like the u.s.a. ? It is a country based on slavery, genocide, and imperialism. Do the opposite of what the u.s.a. has done. Learn to live with less not more.
The steel they made in those furnace turned out be shitty pig iron.Mao Communes overstated the amount of grain harvest which caused horrible famines. Mao was a very evil man because he knew his actions were causing deaths and he simply didn't care.
So what was the point of the Great Leap Forward if all the steel was useless? What was Mao trying to achieve by turning productive farms into makeshift steel complexes? Why not just train professionals and make as much as steel as you needed by converting the farms with weaker productivity into steel mills?
Mao refuted his own ideas by trying to put them into practice. No man should ever be given as much power as he gave himself. He'll only make a mess of things.
Respond to this video... I really think the whole big leap forward is one political showcase for Mao so he can stay in power. He didn't really care about Chinese people much. There were technicians in China and they were the most highly paid(it really wasn't all egalitarian.). There must be corruptions along the way in government, it just shows the failure of central planning.
for all these people that want to shit talk china's history, How would YOU have done it differently huh? how would you have managed to avoid the country disintegrating into another civil war or being invaded by the soviets, or being occupied by another foreign power?
@Pantherace He was not a "terrorist." Reducing all human evil to "terrorism" is stupid, it misconstrues the concreteness and historical specificity of peoples' suffering.
@spamidiot Basically mao used propoganda posters and mainly slogans to "brainwash" the peasentry, as they were the majority of the population ensuring the ccp's survival in political power. The great leap forward was simply a mistake made not only by Mao but by the peasentry. The local communes gave Mao their expected targets but due to lysenkoism these were higher than the peasents knew they could achieve. Part 2 below due to word count!
However no-one dared suggest that lysenkoism (a russian theory about creating 20x larger crops) was false, (even though it was), as russia and china were the leading communist nations of the time. So these expected results were published and so the amounts expected to be given to cities were shipped off leaving little food for the peasents. This was the cause of the great famine and so is the reason why Mao and the people are to blame for the great famine, and the huge death toll across China.
@spamidiot, if you know about the Great Leap Forward, how do you not know about the Land Reform that Mao proposed? It happened right before the Leap, he killed most of the landlords/farmers (basically the rich people of that time) so he can free the lower classes from being slaves.
mao did a good job unifying hte country, but also made a big mistake keeping the country. well no one is perfect. but u still gotta appriciate him freeing those slaves from slaves master.
i said it WAS a brainwashing, that was how those people worked so hard for mao. besides, lots of local head or mayor mistranslated and misunderstood Mao's words. there' were lots of factors that made culture revolution happen.
I think that you have your history a wee bitty wrong, the Great Leap Forward was a big disaster, one that Mao knew all about but did not want to report
@locheedode the people there are not allowed to think otherwise. He did unite China and there were few other statesman to consider a "hero" In Taiwan they used to have Chang Kai Shek statues everywhere to form some kind of national identity. However as time has gone on Chang is remembered for being a gangster and a poor leader. Taiwan's identity will grow with time as a democracy. I suspect as the CCP losses more power Mao will be viewed with mixed feelings.
@gmichaelz mao is viewed as a hero because even though he made mistakes, he gave the people better lives than they originally had. the majority of the people at least. he was had brilliant ideas, but didnt know how to put them into action and made mistakes. but when you make mistakes at that level, it costs lives. he is viewed as a hero simply because he unified the country and is a war hero, not because of his economic decisions and not because people are forced to think so.
"I don't agree with formulations such as '60 Glorious Years' and '50 Glorious Years'. They are not true. The hard times of the 'Great Leap Forward' [in the late 1950s] lasted for three or four years. The chaos of the 'Cultural Revolution' [1966-1976) lasted 10 years. Those years cannot be called glorious." ~ China patriot
idiot ur countries occupide other countries and destroyed other countries and then ur country took all of the money of the other countries and because of this money u became super power china didnt invaded any country because of hardworking china came superpower.
Westerners were aggressively doing business in China since 1830. In 1842 China was defeated by the British( the most shameful war in modern history ),the "Opium war" which resulted in China gave up Hong Kong to British. And of course the next 100 years the Westerners splitted up China and everyone has their own concessions. In 1949 Mao kicked out all the invaders and bullies. You may say Dr. Kissinger made a mistake to open up China. Lots of history to learn !!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like slave labor to me.. but then again I could be wrong.
dawgie102 5 days ago
millions died in the west's great leap forwards too.... otherwise known as industrial revolutions. 2 in 5 children were not expected to live to 5. Notice how they never mention this on TV? ;) dosent make the failure of GLF any different but more people need to realise this.
thatkindofguy234 3 weeks ago
I understand communists in 1914, but communists in 2011 are mentally ill or very ignorant people. Look the difference between South Korean and North Korea and stop your mambo jambo. Communism failed. Get over it
trifulquita15 1 month ago
@trifulquita15 north korea isnt even communist...
thatkindofguy234 2 weeks ago
@thatkindofguy234 yes, they have state and i guess they have currency... Well, thank God they are not 100% communists because half of north koreans could be dead
trifulquita15 2 weeks ago
I honestly see Mao as a tragic hero... He tried to do good for China but his ignorance cost him dearly.
thatkindofguy234 1 month ago
@thatkindofguy234 A leader can make mistakes, bad programs, but an honest leader stop his reforms inmediately. Mao insisted in his policy for years. Reports of death meant nothing for arrogant, cruel communist leaders
trifulquita15 1 month ago
THE GREAT LEAP BACKWARDS.
The Chinese are not mother fuckers. they are a a people who for many, many years, have been oppressed, made brain dead with the teachings of brain dead leaders. it's all about control. this is one of many reasons why the Chinese government gets totally fucked off and sensitive to anything that shames the government.
THE PARTY MUST ALWAYS LOOK PURE AND GOOD.
it's just a load of communist bullshit. and they can never stop the truth leaking out.
fypong 2 months ago
@fypong Facist imperialsim has stop Comrade!!! Go China Kick USAs ass!
hugocaracas2021 1 month ago
Dear Chris Yang. Thank you so much for uploading part of the Great Leap Forward documentary. I've been trying to find it for years ever since it disappeared from our library. Do you remember the name and publisher? I thought it was Living the Revolution but I think I'm wrong. Thank you for any information you can give me. I teach Chinese history and this documentary has the best footage and interviews of any I've seen.
oliviademama 2 months ago
Oh Yeah, these mother fuckers drop like flies.
petermotts 6 months ago
Mao did totally rock!!! Do not stop it of the MISINFORMACION. Is a TRUE leader of the People of China!! Live glorios glorios Comrade Mao and proud Republic of China!! We FULL support you!! Together with our China brothers in arms the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuelas noble Bolivarian Proletariat will fight against facism imperialism captalism and world oligarchy!! Live Dictatorship of the Proletariat!! Go Comander Chavez!!! Soon we do our own Great Leap Forwar
hugocaracas2021 6 months ago 2
@hugocaracas2021 Except of course for the fact the the Great Leap Forward was badly planned, lead to a decrease in production of goods, and directly caused a famine which killed about 40 million people.
Gubbywubby 2 months ago
@Gubbywubby I dont know if you are a CIA agent pay to say facist lies or only ignorant. if ignorant you need to reeducate. Look how Cina is the omost powerful country!!! Thank you Mao!! Long live the memory of glorios Comrade Mao!! Now we make our own Great leap Forward!!! Go Comander Chavez!!! Live the Moaist Republic of Venezuela!!!
hugocaracas2021 2 months ago
@hugocaracas2021 Yes, China is now a powerful country, but that does not discount the amount of human suffering caused during Mao's regime. Furthermore, much of the real progress in China only took place under as a result of Deng XiaoPing's rule, during which he reversed much of what Mao had done. China is currently not a communist country. I am not ignorant, I have studied the period extensively.
Gubbywubby 2 months ago
@Gubbywubby Many people beg Mao not to continue his politic but he have the corage to say no to facism. Only by tireless fighting of the captalists can China be great! Yes coward oposition people makes a lot of noise and protest but Chairman Mao smash those who criticize. As Comrade Stalin afirms: "You cant to make an omellete without to break a few eggs". We therefore saluite the corage of Chairman Mao!! Live Mao Live China!!!
hugocaracas2021 2 months ago
@hugocaracas2021 First of all, communism and fascism are not the only options. There are many intermediary ones. Secondly, since Mao's death, China has only been communist in name, not in reality. Mao did do good in China, he did begin to bring industry to China, for example, but the human cost was far too great. The increases in production were not that great, all the iron produced by peasants was useless, and his policies caused a famine which killed 40 million. Nice idea, not so nice reality.
Gubbywubby 2 months ago
@hugocaracas2021 Your blind support does an injustice to the hundreds of thousands of people his policies killed - the very people he apparently tried to save from oppression.
He was arrogant, abusive, opportunistic, self-centered and individualistic in every sense... everything which a communist is meant to be against. As for Chavez, I believe him to be a man of good intentions but, honestly, his growing power will corrupt him beyond return.
Lukege15 1 month ago
@Lukege15 CIA pays how much to write lies? REad history Comarde open youre eyes get reeducate to liberate youre mind. Mao is the greatest leader maybe exept Stalin EVER!!! China is world #1 powrr thans fullly to Mao. Mao give dignity and hman right to the Proletariat. In Venezuela now we have our Great Leap Forward. No on eunsurt our Comander Chavez!!! NOONE get Comander Chavez out of power!!! In Venezuela is 0 corrupcion not like before with facist corruct leaders. Learn and educate Comrade!
hugocaracas2021 1 month ago
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@hugocaracas2021 The KBG and Chinese government pays you how much to try to indoctrinate the masses?
Do you really believe Venezuela has no corruption? You no NOTHING about Venezuela, did you know wonderful Chavez is still dispossessing American Indians of their lands - violently - while exploiting their plight in his propaganda? I love socialism, but I'm still not deluded.
You're a complete and utter fool, man.
Lukege15 1 month ago
@Lukege15 more lies by this facist disguise like a soclaist but I dismask you. Infiltratior es a tipical estategy of Washington CIA. You lie about Indians. Indians fully suport to the Comander. Our Revolusionary Governmet give too much things to the Indians of Venezuela. Always they want more but the Comander has give MANY things to the Indian and give them social justice.
hugocaracas2021 1 month ago
@hugocaracas2021 Idiot.
Lukege15 1 month ago
desire for more corn? If you desire more corn you will see less corn. If you desire day you will see night. If you desire law you will see, that is, become aware of crime. Whatever you desire, you will notice the opposite. Deisre is the problem. Desire keeps you bound to what you don't want.
Why do you want to be like the u.s.a. ? It is a country based on slavery, genocide, and imperialism. Do the opposite of what the u.s.a. has done. Learn to live with less not more.
lifeinyouisgod 8 months ago
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@Chinasucks0 - You are a fucken idiot
I3eetleJuice 8 months ago
The steel they made in those furnace turned out be shitty pig iron.Mao Communes overstated the amount of grain harvest which caused horrible famines. Mao was a very evil man because he knew his actions were causing deaths and he simply didn't care.
waveali 8 months ago
china sucks. Fuck china.
chinasucks0 9 months ago
FACT 1: GLF MORTALITY OF 24/1000 (claimed by Dikotter, Chang, Yang) < 38/1000 IN 1949 CHINA
FACT 2: GLF MORTALITY OF 24/1000 < 28/1000 IN 1947 BRITISH INDIA
FACT 3: GLF MORTALITY OF 24/1000 = INDIA, INDONESIA, PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH IN 1960.
Hongjun81 9 months ago
So what was the point of the Great Leap Forward if all the steel was useless? What was Mao trying to achieve by turning productive farms into makeshift steel complexes? Why not just train professionals and make as much as steel as you needed by converting the farms with weaker productivity into steel mills?
Mao refuted his own ideas by trying to put them into practice. No man should ever be given as much power as he gave himself. He'll only make a mess of things.
CapitalistOverlord 10 months ago 8
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Respond to this video... I really think the whole big leap forward is one political showcase for Mao so he can stay in power. He didn't really care about Chinese people much. There were technicians in China and they were the most highly paid(it really wasn't all egalitarian.). There must be corruptions along the way in government, it just shows the failure of central planning.
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人有多大胆,地有多高产。
甜水吐出比蜜甜,你看稀罕不稀罕,党的恩情万古传。
幸福的中国人民深情惦记着生活在水深火热之中的美国人民。
Chairman mao的著作,一天不读问题多,两天不读走下坡,三天不读没法活。
与天斗,其乐无穷;与地斗,其乐无穷;与人斗,其乐无穷!
知识越多越反动。
偷有理,抢无罪,革命的强盗精神万万岁!
我们一定要解放世界上四分之三生活在水深火热之中的劳动人民。
clovisdong 10 months ago
for all these people that want to shit talk china's history, How would YOU have done it differently huh? how would you have managed to avoid the country disintegrating into another civil war or being invaded by the soviets, or being occupied by another foreign power?
AlternateArtisan 11 months ago
It´s like very bad joke what that woman tells 3:14 ->
Mao was even bigger terrorist and destroyer than Stalin.
Pantherace 1 year ago
@Pantherace He was not a "terrorist." Reducing all human evil to "terrorism" is stupid, it misconstrues the concreteness and historical specificity of peoples' suffering.
HungryForHuman 10 months ago
@HungryForHuman Terrorist, mass murderer, nasty executioner - You name it
Pantherace 9 months ago
他媽的五毛黨在哪裡?進來幫毛臭肉辯解阿!
看來一切中國話發音和配字幕的都被中共的五毛或毛糞攻陷了
只有外語影片還能保存一片淨土
我悲哀的掏空了的民族
twelvemast 1 year ago
Vid stops right at the "best" part: Mao's arrogance and stupidity killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined, in just three years.
The most frightening words ever: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help!"
r5t6y7u8 1 year ago 2
feel sorry for farmer
justinjiang 1 year ago 2
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@spamidiot Basically mao used propoganda posters and mainly slogans to "brainwash" the peasentry, as they were the majority of the population ensuring the ccp's survival in political power. The great leap forward was simply a mistake made not only by Mao but by the peasentry. The local communes gave Mao their expected targets but due to lysenkoism these were higher than the peasents knew they could achieve. Part 2 below due to word count!
FootballHero6 2 years ago
However no-one dared suggest that lysenkoism (a russian theory about creating 20x larger crops) was false, (even though it was), as russia and china were the leading communist nations of the time. So these expected results were published and so the amounts expected to be given to cities were shipped off leaving little food for the peasents. This was the cause of the great famine and so is the reason why Mao and the people are to blame for the great famine, and the huge death toll across China.
FootballHero6 2 years ago
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FootballHero6 2 years ago
@spamidiot, if you know about the Great Leap Forward, how do you not know about the Land Reform that Mao proposed? It happened right before the Leap, he killed most of the landlords/farmers (basically the rich people of that time) so he can free the lower classes from being slaves.
aznswti 2 years ago
i think china hasn't changed so much since the ancient
time.. they love "great" "huge" things all the time.
sometimes collapses, sometimes prospers.
ayanuhito 2 years ago 2
mao did a good job unifying hte country, but also made a big mistake keeping the country. well no one is perfect. but u still gotta appriciate him freeing those slaves from slaves master.
joelin0910 2 years ago
You even watched the video at all? He made alot of people in slaves and alot of them died, 20 million died of famine.
SpamIdiot 2 years ago 2
@SpamIdiot he didn't make those poeple in slaves, those poeple look up to mao so much so they would like to be slaves for mao, it was brainwash.
joelin0910 2 years ago
So brainwashing people into slavery is an impossibility?
SpamIdiot 2 years ago
i said it WAS a brainwashing, that was how those people worked so hard for mao. besides, lots of local head or mayor mistranslated and misunderstood Mao's words. there' were lots of factors that made culture revolution happen.
joelin0910 2 years ago
Lol, you have a comprehension problem. Anyway when you said freeing slaves from slave masters, who are you referring to?
SpamIdiot 2 years ago
farmers and landlords
joelin0910 2 years ago
That's a new one. Lol
SpamIdiot 2 years ago
@SpamIdiot 20 million alone is just the smallest estamate, 40 million was the highest.
How sad. So many died for no reason. :(
FQBeast 1 year ago
然後就3年饑荒
ak5699 2 years ago 2
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I think that you have your history a wee bitty wrong, the Great Leap Forward was a big disaster, one that Mao knew all about but did not want to report
locheedode 2 years ago 15
@locheedode He said "Sorry" for what he later realised he didn't have any idea about economics in the first place.
It's a miracle what the word Sorry can do.
Cleric775 2 years ago
why is Mao still seen as a hero in China?? it is quite obvious that he was a devious and evil man!!!
locheedode 2 years ago 2
@locheedode because chinese are constantly brainwashed by their media
jizzinmypants191919 1 year ago
@locheedode the people there are not allowed to think otherwise. He did unite China and there were few other statesman to consider a "hero" In Taiwan they used to have Chang Kai Shek statues everywhere to form some kind of national identity. However as time has gone on Chang is remembered for being a gangster and a poor leader. Taiwan's identity will grow with time as a democracy. I suspect as the CCP losses more power Mao will be viewed with mixed feelings.
gmichaelz 1 month ago
@gmichaelz mao is viewed as a hero because even though he made mistakes, he gave the people better lives than they originally had. the majority of the people at least. he was had brilliant ideas, but didnt know how to put them into action and made mistakes. but when you make mistakes at that level, it costs lives. he is viewed as a hero simply because he unified the country and is a war hero, not because of his economic decisions and not because people are forced to think so.
ilykbears 3 weeks ago
In todays China Mao is still a hero, but why is this ??
locheedode 2 years ago
he "unified" china with ending the war, "made great leaps forward" to push China towards industrializing. All of this BS contributes
dreamexecution 2 years ago
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"I don't agree with formulations such as '60 Glorious Years' and '50 Glorious Years'. They are not true. The hard times of the 'Great Leap Forward' [in the late 1950s] lasted for three or four years. The chaos of the 'Cultural Revolution' [1966-1976) lasted 10 years. Those years cannot be called glorious." ~ China patriot
SauIan 2 years ago
idiot ur countries occupide other countries and destroyed other countries and then ur country took all of the money of the other countries and because of this money u became super power china didnt invaded any country because of hardworking china came superpower.
muhammads123 2 years ago
What dumb people. Their noobness knows no bounds
chetanbiswas 2 years ago
Go to hell Mao and with him his red China, too!!!
Bloody hell in Communist China still today!
SeineGraueEminenz 2 years ago
great looser leap forward!
PINOYRADICAL1987 2 years ago
毛澤東這老妖怪自己精神錯亂也罷了!
全中國當時六億人跟他一起抓狂!
自然是大悲劇一場~ 據說從五八~六三年間
全中國直接間接活活餓死超過一億人!
六二年夏天有五六百萬人徒步從華中走至深圳河畔~英軍大掃射死十幾萬人!
看在我們這些八十年代中期出生的人眼中~
真是覺得難過!
johnnytiger63 2 years ago 3
Good intentions but end up in a disaster.
Hard to do thing right the first time. However, in just less than 60 years, China is doing excellent.
Keep up the good work !
bobchewaing 3 years ago
That is credited to foreign companies who pour money into China.
cr9527 2 years ago
Westerners were aggressively doing business in China since 1830. In 1842 China was defeated by the British( the most shameful war in modern history ),the "Opium war" which resulted in China gave up Hong Kong to British. And of course the next 100 years the Westerners splitted up China and everyone has their own concessions. In 1949 Mao kicked out all the invaders and bullies. You may say Dr. Kissinger made a mistake to open up China. Lots of history to learn !!!!!!!!!!!!
bobchewaing 2 years ago
what does ANYTHING of yours has anything to do with what I said?
cr9527 2 years ago
It was because you did replied my comments. Next time just do not kick "Reply".
bobchewaing 2 years ago
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The steel was useless. Hahahaha. That's the saddest thing.
Nimnoms 3 years ago 11
thank you for uploading
channelloo 3 years ago