Henry IV, Part 1 (1990, Michael Bogdanov) part 4 of 17

[Quondom]

"Inglorious Basterds" doesn't have much respect to start with, but Shakespeare has plenty. His reputation stands on his brilliance as a writer, which is little dimmed by historical inacurracies. Some of Shakespeare's boners, such as his unflattering portrayal of Jeanne d'Arc, reflect the prejudices of his time and are little remembered today. Let's hope that "Inglorious Basterds" falls into the same Memory Hole.

[TheImpossibleMan]

@2:27 suddenly, synthesizers

[MoooonshoesPotter]

As far as history versus creativity-- Think of modern examples. Does "Inglorious Basterds" lose all of our respect simply because it is fiction-based-on-fact?

[2greentail]

for a history play this sure take a lot of liberties. i think the histories should be kept in period, and the tragedies and anything else seems far game to up root for that period a put anywhere else. the reason i think this is because these events are factual come from years of research shakespeare did on top of that they had a profound impact on society, like the war of the roses and the 100 years war.

[paperbullet1945]

Why should history bind creativity?

[2greentail]

no i should inspire it.

[rigstula]

You state this as if Shakespeare's history plays were truthful chronicles of how historical events truly took place. They're not. They are plays written to entertain and are full of historical inconsistencies, all in the service of creating good drama.

Also, concerning this, it is certainly interesting that 'Antony and Cleopatra' is one of the plays that adheres most closely to historical facts, yet is listed among the tragedies.

[glorious89]

@rigstula well said!

@2greentail for a start, if it was historically accurate Hotspur would be at least 20 years older than Hal, but Shakespeare uses dramatic license to instead incorporate the theme of two rival youths.

[glorious89]

@2greentail also you say Shakespeare did years of research into the histories, which there may be evidence for somewhere, but for many of his plays, including this case, his sources are often considered to consist of other people's historical accounts as well as other poetic and often comedic dramas, far from primary sources even before he adds his own creative input. besides, history is told by the victors so the retelling of history will always be drenched with liberties and biases

[cwwiss]

quality...must be Stratford

[zeromenace]

hmmm i guess