The Lyrics Don't Matter - Christian Rock is still the Devil's music

[duckittben]

I have two problems with this first your argument covers only heavy metal, not Worship Rock or what is truly CCM. CCM is only given to music that is Christian that gets played on the radio. Bands such as Third Day, Casting Crowns, Switchfoot, or Newsboys. Now the second problem is you create a scriptural contradiction it says in the Bible "Nothing that is filled with the Holy Spirit can say "Jesus be cursed" and only through the Holy Spirit can they bless the Lord." Go away Saturn!

[darkangel2347]

I listen to a secular heavy metal radio program here in Auastralia called "The Racket" on Triple J and all so called "christian" acts mentioned could easily be on that show. This show also plays music by known satanists (ie Danzig, etc) too.

[flipjosh12]

i think this is what david wilkerson said about the 'gospel of accommodation': trying to mix the holy gospel with the sinful worldly standards.

[TheBibleJokes]

Rock 'n Roll was originally Black People's music. It was the most popular African-American music since the 1950's. Rock 'n Roll's negative reputation can be traced back from the anti-rock 'n roll racism of the 1950's. White conservatives accused it of being the devil's music because it came from "black savages" and the fact that it broke the racial barriers.

Such reputation began from this equation:

Anti-rock 'n roll = RACISM"

Jazz/blues were not as popular as rock.

[breakfastbuddy63]

music is a language and its at the level you are used to. when you talk to a jew you have to talk the same language . ( after paul ) you sat that the music blend with the lyrics and call that bad , and other attack the band by playing it backwards , cant you grow up , the goal to stop all music that you dont like dont make you right , just see the fact that you are getting old , and thats not your music style . and if people are high voiced or load it dont mean that they are evil .

[92elrtv2]

it is astonishing how many Christians think that CCM will make them "on fire for Christ". I detest Christian rock and CCM. I am a university music student and aspiring musicologist. There are ancient philosophies by plato and Aristotle about the effects the music has on emotions and the mind regardless of lyrics. similar views continued in the Baroque era as well- where text was called a servant of the words. People in history know some things too and God invented music and knows best.

[92elrtv2]

@92elrtv2 From a more Christian perspective: 1Cor:18-20 "Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar?19 Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything? No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons."

[92elrtv2]

@92elrtv2 **text was called a servant of the music (not words)

[aliciajohn]

@92elrtv2 I totally agree with you. I personally love the classics or as I would call it "art music". I have studied music in university- graduating from musicology and harmony and have both seen and note how music can control people.

And i totally agree with your last statement. God has invented music and knows best. After all, he is GOD, and whatever He did, it was GOOD. Unfortunately I believe that when sin came into the world, the devil changed everything from Good to Evil.

[BurningOnesArise777]

@martinthezman Wow. You're ignorance is frightening. My username is a For Today lyric calling for those who are on fire/passionate for Christ to rise up and fulfill their destiny. I've seen For Today's vocalist, Mattie Montgomery, speak at a church and he's awesome. I suggest you check out his website and read some of his stuff: mattiemontgomery(dot)com Also, here is a video of Sleeping Giant professing their faith in God: /watch?v=HedUhbqZbeo Please, watch and learn. Praying for you.

[shipreck1000]

with out good there can't be evil, without evil there can't be good...I use Christian Rock/Metal music all the time to show people how great and awesome our God is. Even showed a christian rock music video to a good friend of mine (an atheist at the time) which in turn saved him from suicide. Now he goes to church every day and shows his love for Christ in the public school that he goes to. Christ works in many ways and in this day and age music in any form can have a powerful impact on someone.

[fromlightcomesshadow]

According to your logic; since it started to be a thing for evil, it is for all time evil, but if we listen to that logic, you can claim that since I was once a satanist; I will forever always be a satanist.

Your logic is flawed.

[moonlightmuder]

So your saying that my youth band is not christian your saying God is antirock is that it well I can assure u its not true u say ur a christian yet u lie about all christian rock ur just another liar that is mad because someone said hey we can help a younger and different generation with our music so forget u until you know what its like to feel alone and on the verge of suicide and then not do it because u heard a christian rock band talk about God and that's how your lead to him then shut up!!

[Petrafan327]

True there are some "so-called" Christian rock bands, but many are influenced by God. Casting Crowns (BTW not even rock) Petra Newsboys Mad at the World dc Talk Switchfoot DeGarmo & Key Kutless Whitecross Third Day Glenn Kaiser Phil Keaggy Michael Card Keith Green 4Him These are all good Christian bands. PS Third Day & Casting Crowns are in the movie COURAGEOUS. If you even think for a second that the movie is bad in any way, you are not a Christian.

[TreyOwnzU]

People,some folks are simply close-minded and refuse to accept the reality of our day and age.God has given us all gifts,it's up to us how we choose to use them and glorify him.Being that we're in a spiritual war,God has given us the tools to reach out to those who would not normally be reached.Disregard the statements of those who are simple in thought,for God will one day illuminate their mindset.Use w/e weapon you can muster to win on the behalf of righteousness.Long live music!!!

[TreyOwnzU]

FACT: ALL MUSIC is under the domain of Lucifer,since you know,he was in charge of it all.Which essentially means that every style of music to ever come out can be traced back to him.So I guess playing ANY music any time is satanic,right? No,my brothers and sisters,such is not the case.We wage a spiritual war against the spirits of not only ourselves,but others.God has given gifts to all of us and for a Christian to condemn another based on their 'likes' is simply ludacris.Don't condemn your own.

[skydivinwhitey]

John 8:44 Christ states the jews are the children of the devil...look around, rock and rap a re all KIKE producers... and it does not have to be metal to be not of God. when a girl is in a tight hot dress singing praises but brings attraction to her lustful body..that is no different. Be more worried about the majority of chruches who call the jews "gods chosen" these are edomites not of God but of Esau/cain. Hitler should of killed them all and done the work David was supposed to

[1966Daywalker]

Your logic is pure bullshit. Aside from that, what you call rock music evolved from jazz, rythm and blues, and the electric guitar itself was first used in orchestras years before rock music came into vogue. I notice pagans and devil worshippers use altars and you Christian types dont condemn the Israelites for using ALTARS AT GOD'S COMMAND to worship him. This is called a double standard. Idiots.

[punkRokker16]

Aight man i dont want to start an argument or anything, but a certain genre is not automatically demonic. And about the music videos, its not gonna be just some man all happy, playing the piano, and singing in a church. Metal has an epic quality that other music doesnt. It puts it out there and says, listen! Btw you can flame my vids all you want, just know that i dont have hardly any money to afford a computer or a pod xt or something to record with.

[MoreMartyr]

0:33 band?

[BurningOnesArise777]

@MoreMartyr For Today!

[Christianrockrockz]

Christian Rock is NOT Devil's music. Explain how playing a certain musical instrument or playing a certain genre is supporting Satan?

[jtshanks]

Not trying to offend or start a flame war, but this is all sooooo silly.

Christians will always find evil where it doesn't exist, or invent it so they will have something to bitch about. If they don't like the music, well then it must be of the devil. So much one dimensional thinking, it's sad.

The devil was/is man/church's invention to exert control over you, to keep you in fear, and to take your money while they're at it.

I also find devil worshippers to be equally a laughable bunch.

[TannerDaPreecher]

you said as long as we listen to this christian rock we will be bound... im free from my addictions and from the bondages of sin and i listen too christian rock

[amanancial]

Thanks for showing me 2 more great Christian bands that I didn't know...

[amanancial]

we cannot say all the christian rock bands are bad influence and they're all whorshiping the devil, at the same time we cannot say all of them are good and praising God, let Jesus decide that.... all that I know is that I see alot of young people being saved by some Christian rock incluence, and that is a really good thing... I got 3 friends of mine saved by showing them some bands like Bride, Tourniquet and some others

[geetarboy184]

Ahahahaha your a fkn idiot

[oldgamergeek]

You give Satan way to much credit, he cannot create only steal, kill, and destroy . As to Christian Rock every generation has left it's expression of the Gospel this one is no different. As to the old Hymns do you know many of the tunes were Bar songs?

[16karateka]

I bet this guy was headbanging at some of these tunes........

If i am Not wrong,of course XD

[SimonDaNinja2]

I have yet to se a convincing reason to distortion, sweep picking, power chords and growls to be sinful.

[16karateka]

@SimonDaNinja2

What do you mean?

Do you mean that you are just like those fools?

Saying that anything that is rock,metal punk is inherently evil?

If yes - you are misled.

If no - YOU CAN THANK GOD FOR SAVING YOUR MIND FROM THEIR FALSE DOCTRINES AND ACCUSATIONS!!!

Rock music can be just like a tool,which can be used for BOTH good and bad things.

[SimonDaNinja2]

@16karateka I thought I was as clear as I coul possibly be, but obviously not.

What I mean is that rock music is definitely NOT sinful in itself!

Every music genre is a language able to give a good message or a bad. Just like a knife could be made for something good like cutting bread or performing surgery, or something bad like killing, rock music can be used for good or evil to.

[unholyMIA7X1]

have not taken the time to research. Just because rock/metal music may be grounded in evil/sin doesn't mean that it can not be taken back and used in the name of the Lord. As humans we were grounded in sin but by God's love and mercy we were taken away from all of that. And finally you pick For Today and Sleeping Giant as examples here. Really???. You will never find a band more christian than them 2. Go research what happens at their concerts and their ministries and tell me they are satanic.

[Mezik88]

@unholyMIA7X1 precisely. All this is, and the main argument that I have found repeatably throughout investigation: the genetic fallacy. Look it up on Wiki and tell me thats not what most of them use. Its quite sad that people like them make these blind accusations all the time. I grew up in IFB churches for most of my life and heard this all the time; its one big fallacy.

[dasgruver]

@unholyMIA7X1 Just do a little research into the early stages of Rock and Roll. There are some origins based in African American Churches, evil I think not, also look into the role Rock and Roll played in ending segregation. Remember they are arguing an absolute where all you have to do is prove ONE good thing that has come from Rock and Roll that they can't discredit as being evil.

[unholyMIA7X1]

of all the arguments on this subject, i think this may be the worst one i have heard. This is why Christians have the reputation of being close minded and judgmental "holly rollers". of course the lyrics matter. By condemning this music as Satanic, you are doing several things here. One you are saying that the almighty God is incapable of spreading his word through this music therefore putting limits on his power. Two you are passing judgement on something that you clearly dont understand and..

[TheDJxChrome]

wow, dude. this is why so many people turn from religion, because of people like you.

[pointyguitarz]

I'm a bit curious about your selection of songs. Are you going after a certain style of Christian rock/metal? Granted, I'm not a fan of the "screamo" style. I'm just going off what the video showed. The title "The Lyrics Don't Matter - Christian Rock is still the Devil's music ", are you condeming the whole genre of Christian rock going back over the decades? Your assertions are pretty much a blanket statement. I'm a Christian, pro rock/metal guitarist since the 80s. I beg to differ greatly!

[MartyJSwizzle]

The first line of lyrics are: "An army composed, of walking dead, of willing hearts, in this our day of struggle. We speak with fire, we break all chains, the foolish bonds of carnal minds far beneath us" Do you not understand that the lyrics are inspired from the Word of God? Because of Christ, we were crucified with Christ and we are now dead to ourselves. Now, Christ gave His life and now we live in Him even though our bodies are dead. This is mature Christian music.

[martinthezman]

@MartyJSwizzle Dead? These men do not seem 'dead', they are very carnal, and are copying the satanic music of the world. They are compromisers, and they are leading a generation of compromisers to the place where the "LUKEWARM" go... SPUED OUT from the presence of GOD.

[MartyJSwizzle]

@martinthezman - Wrong, Mr. Legalism. These band members are not physically dead, they are carnally dead but alive by the power of Christ. Romans 8:10 - "And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." The dead people in the video represent those who have died and now have come to life in Christ. The video is symbolic and how the band decided to represent the idea is theirs, not yours. That's the answer, stop the ignorance.

[MartyJSwizzle]

Did you watch the whole video of Sleeping Giants - The Army of the Chosen One? Did you read the whole lyrics from beginning to end? The video does resemble godliness! Romans 8:10 - "And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." The dead people in the video represent those who have died and now have come to life in Christ.

[MartyJSwizzle]

First of all, Aleister Crowley was not a musician nor did he know how to play an instrument. He died in 1945 and Metal music was not even invented yet. Your ignorance condemns you.

[8Metaphysicist8]

Dude, your Alistair theories are crazy. Alastair Crowley was a loon that said all kinds of stuff to get attention for his little cult. Satan has as much power over you as you choose to give him. You're clearly more interested in researching the devil and condemning "false Christians." Stop trying to call everyone wrong because they don't worship your way, and actually spread the Word. Talk about the love of Jesus Christ, not your hatred for all deviants. You don't even know these people.

[XFactor024]

i've seen your website.. u have good points and had made me think about some things.. but there are other things that are completely supositions and have no good argument. From the evidence on the website i can conclude that internet is satanic too and shouldnt be used for carrying the word of God because it had evil origins and had it is most used as an enemy's weapon. I didnt saw anything that still can convince that bands like kutless are "satanic", but u made a clearly point about metal.

[martinthezman]

@XFactor024 Glad you checked out the website, but your illustration of the internet is not good. Internet is an amoral form of communication. Like a TV or telephone or even a CB. It is not a part of the message, but it is simply a tool to carry the message. MUSIC on the other hand is a PART of the message of any song; often it is the most important part. Rock music is a corrupting influence. Music is not amoral, but it contains a message. But thanks again for visiting the site.

[XFactor024]

now that i've seen this video i had to add that this just shows heavy metal.. you're attacking rock in general when you only show us the "bad side" of heavy metal. u cant really tell me that bands like casting crowns or kutless are "satanic" u can clearly hear the words in those songs. im telling you, you really need better arguments to convince anybody that christian rock is "evil".

[martinthezman]

@XFactor024 I have a TON of arguments against C-rock on my website: w w w . babylonforsaken . c o m Enough to convince any honest person that Rock music is the devil's music. And that C-rock is a compromise with the enemy.

[XFactor024]

I've seen how close-minded you are about this so i know i will not convince you of anything,but i have felt God's life in me, something we both know, i've felt it through hymns and through christian rock, God's love can reach us in many ways, I and thousands of people more have got to know of Jesus sacrifice through rock, that is something you cant denny, and if you are against people being saved i dont know what is wrong with you. God bless you.

[XFactor024]

what you say is pointless.. so i can asume that it is satanic to sing in english beacause humans created english.. it is evil to listen piano music beacause humans created the piano? come on, it is human nature to destrust in what you dont know, and it seems you dont know christian rock. i've seen how christian rock has helped so many people in need and taken them into God's ways, I'm one of them, i have seen God's work in my life, he saved me and i love him. rock or hymns can be felt the same.

[1991dreadhead]

Just because you think the music overrides the lyrics doesn't give you the right to say it does altogether. that's like you saying you don't like someone preaching a sermon because they have an accent . Jesus said "He that isn't against us is for us" It's people like you that push people further from religion instead of doing your job of bringing them closer. And doesnt the bible say that we will stand on our own at judgement??

[martinthezman]

@1991dreadhead Actually the music overriding the lyrics is more like a person preaching, with Satan in the back ground SCREAMING his demonic message... I want to push people further from false religion, and into a relationship with Jesus Christ. To walk with Jesus you must separate from the world. God Bless, and thank you for your comment w w w . babylonforsaken . c o m

[1991dreadhead]

@martinthezman Ok so what I'm getting from this is that when someone is crying out to God when they are feeling the spirit of God, it is satanic. Because every service I have been to the first thing people do when they are feeling it is run around, dance, jumping, and SCREAM AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS.Plus, have you took into consideration this so called Satanic music might actually encourage some Christians and inspires them to want to either get saved or live better. The reason I listen to it

[1991dreadhead]

@martinthezman is because of the emotion behind it. When I listen to most modern Gospel songs, I either fall asleep or feel no spiritual connection because I am not in tune with the music or the lyrics do not pertain to my life. It is difficult to see how someone can show so much scorn toward someone that is actually trying to do something in favor of Christ. In the next section I will post some lyrics from my favorite christian rock song which is Death is the Beginning by Mortal Treason.

[martinthezman]

@1991dreadhead There is a 'spirit' of slumber in the world, shake yourself from it, and the music is to pertain to Jesus Christ and his glory and his truth. We are to WORSHIP him in our music. Worship is not to 'Entertain us", but it is to glorify GOD. Ask the Lord to give you the Spirit of worship, and even the old hymns will move your heart.

[1991dreadhead]

@martinthezman "I love You You’re my all I will bow down before You You’re my God My everything When I fall You pick me up You’ve always been there You always will Broken is Your heart because You’re pushed away Can’t we understand? Broken is the groom who mourns for his dying bride, for their eyes to open once again Christ forgive me for running from You I will give You all my life" Why would Satan inspire someone to perform a song with so much emotion and repentant lyrics?

[martinthezman]

@1991dreadhead Why corrupt lyrics with the music of the world? Satan will give you a ton of truth, as long as you will drink down an ounce of LIE.

[1991dreadhead]

@martinthezman I don't understand what makes it music of the world. Modern day Gospel music was started by Thomas A. Dorsey, who brought elements of jazz and secular blues to traditional hymns and psalms of praise. Also, his music was also seen as worldly and was rejected by the church as well. So I just want to know, who is to set the standard on what Christians can and cant use for God. For example, the internet is not of God, it is the home to viruses, pornography, and other evil things but

[1991dreadhead]

@martinthezman many Christians use it as a tool for ministry, to share their testimony, and other Godly things.

[martinthezman]

@1991dreadhead Do you think I should wrap 'crack cocaine' in a Bible tract and give it out to drug addicts, as a "ministry tool'? Or maybe if i write bible verses on liquor bottles, and sell them to Alcoholics?.. Metal heads don't need more Rock, they need to be delivered from the demon of Rock and Roll. Jesus doesn't need rock singers, he uses sanctified men and women who are willing to speak his word in Spirit and in Truth, with love. w w w . babylonforsaken . c o m

[martinthezman]

Your a "practicing catholic", so you appear religious... clearly your religion is vain, which means EMPTY, USELESS AND WORTHLESS... according to Scriptures: James 1:26 If anyone appears to be "religious" but cannot control his tongue, he deceives himself and we may be sure that his religion is useless... To come into the TRUE FAITH, you must be born again. You must repent of your sins, and trust only in Jesus Christ for salvation. Popes, Priests, Mary, Mass and the rest cannot help you, repent

[metalh3ad546]

satan doesnt control shit you stupid fuck

[martinthezman]

@metalh3ad546 It is obvious he controls your tongue.... You a 'Christian'? If so, I have a special verse just for you: James 1:26 If anyone appears to be "religious" but cannot control his tongue, he deceives himself and we may be sure that his religion is useless.

[metalh3ad546]

@martinthezman He doesnt control my tongue i listen to rock because i can express myself your just getting points in heaven and your stupid as fuck

[martinthezman]

@metalh3ad546 Yes I am stupid, I agree. But I asked you, Are you a Christian? James 1:26 If anyone appears to be "religious" but cannot control his tongue, he deceives himself and we may be sure that his religion is useless.

[metalh3ad546]

@martinthezman i am a practicing catholic i go every single saturday and sunday to church. THey say Christian lyrics just in a different way. ITs not all devil music.

[exigency3]

martinthezman: BRO, I am older than old school No I dont like that type of Christian Rock music but if GOD is for them dont be against them and PRAY for theM .GOD BLESS. P.S CHECK OUT THE ORIGINAL ROCK AND SONG: CAMP MEETING JUBILEE. LATER BRO.

[PodFtw]

Heavy metal I know your right about but not P.O.D

[PodFtw]

Color... black white everything... so I guess that makes all music like that huh?

[FAITHandLOGIC]

I agree with this video in terms of the heavy metal and screaming into the microphone. It's demonic, regardless of the lyrics.

That being said, I don't believe that any music with a guitar and drums is evil. It's a matter of the lyrics and the delivery. I think music should be kept simple. Many of these mega churches blind you with lights and smoke and try to make it a religious experience.

[animedude107]

Many of the old hyms came from bar tunes, the lyrics were just changed. What do you think inspired the melodies of those songs?

[martinthezman]

@animedude107 Tell me my friend some of these "Hymns" that were written to Bar Tunes? Charles Wesley and Fanny Crosby who wrote thousands of hymns made SURE their hymns had godly music and not music of the world. Martin Luther wrote one hymn, and then sung it to a "FOLK" TUNE for a while, and then felt condemned about it and changed it. What you are repeating is a 'lie' of C-rock. People think if you say it enough, it must be true.... w w w . babylonforsaken . c o m

[animedude107]

@martinthezman i'll be honest, i can't quite remember which ones in particular.  but "what child is this" started out as "green sleeves", which was original writting by henry VIII for his wife, or debatably for a prostitute.

[martinthezman]

@animedude107 That's not a "Bar Tune", it is a Ballad written to one's fiance'... Do you know what a "Bar Tune" is? Really it is music made to be played on a piano... C-rockers take it to mean a DRINKING BAR.... Any one who would take a beautiful hymn and mix it with the songs of drunkards would not be holy.

[animedude107]

@martinthezman i didn't say greensleeves was a bar song, i said some started out that way, but i couldn't remember which ones. and i could be miss informed. i'm just saying that the music for some hymns came from other secular sorces. but besides, you don't know the heart of the ones performing. the bible says that man looks on the outward apperance, but God looks at the inward apperance. who's to say they aren't doing what they're doing for God just because you dont approve of the sound.

[martinthezman]

@animedude107 I can't see the heart. But Jesus told me i would know them by their fruits. Rock and Roll has bad fruit. C-rock has bad fruit. It has too, because Rock Music is corrupt. It has always been sensual, fleshly, rebellious and devilish. Some people may be sincere with their C-rock, but it doesn't make it right. It doesn't change the fact that it is corrupt. A child may sincerely think Rat poison is good food, but it doesn't change the fact that if you eat it, it will make you sick.

[decentdrummer911]

@animedude107 I had to stop watching this video, I felt like I was getting dumber and dumber by the second.

[martinthezman]

@decentdrummer911 Rock music has that effect on people.

[thebigdickvgt]

wow umm... did you have to pick one of the most outrageous christian bands out there

[ShoresofKorea]

@martithezman

Sir, have you been hurt by said c-rock?? have you truly seen the fruits of it?? I have heard multiple testimonies of suicide being diverted and ppl being uplifted with a fresh reminder that God loves them.You dont have the authority to say these are wrong because you dont know their hearts, to judge by what you see on the outside is not righteous judgement.but I have read other posts from you and I can see that your heart is hardened so I will not continue this.I shall pray for you

[ShoresofKorea]

@martinthezman

Sir, I understand your concern for the souls of the youth but If you would listen for a minute and be a little bit optimistic, then I have something to say.. Ministry is given to those who are called correct??? Maybe these people were called by God (Dont automatically rule it out, only God truly knows their hearts)into said ministry. pray about it, ask God let Him deal with you about it, dont just take it from me. Romans 8:28.. Maybe God is taking a wrong (Rock) and makin it right

[martinthezman]

@ShoresofKorea The Lord said we would know the tree by its fruit. And this C-rock is corrupt, it produces corrupt fruit. What is happening is Satan is taking something that is poison, and sugar coating it, and the kids are gobbling down the corruption.

[DeathcoreMusik]

there is no demon of rock -_- listen what you want to people don't let this fool try and get to you.

Atheist and proud

Enough said.

[goobermcnoober]

you are being a false prophet and speaking blasphemy against God by condemning and judging your fellow brothers. i am a follower of God and live my life for him every day. i feel his presence every time i listen to Christian metal and praise his name through the Christian metal songs i write. your mind is narrow and I will pray for you. videos like this only inspire me to listen to Christian metal more.

[spacer1962]

You and your ilk disgust me. Go handle a snake or something.

[martinthezman]

@spacer1962 When you deal with the demon of rock, you are handling a serpent. A very large and deceptive one. Thanks for commenting.

[jesusiloveyou2]

timsh6 Watch watt you say about a brother! You sir... not to call someone a false prophet the scribes and the Pharisees also called Jesus a false prophet he warns us the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiving instead of giving your opinion about others why don't you pluck out that bad mouth before judging others sir ! You must have fruits not opinions! May Jesus bless you and be your guide!

[timsh6]

Elvis was a perons gifted with a natural talent a voice that touched millions ,he was not a messiag you jackass! He was called the king,but never liked the title and said himself"jesus christ is the king" just where are you getting your info from?

[jesusiloveyou2]

Sorry 1John 2:15! 

[jesusiloveyou2]

But also many Christians music is more hiding from what they are really are.. commercialized

For the same reasons of the worldly music! We must be careful to what we listen and watch! Satan is very smart and our flesh can make you backslide very quickly for its desires to go back to the old time! God bless you !Good message

[jesusiloveyou2]

No kidding! I don't know why people that call themselves a follower of Jesus are still struggling with this! Jesus tells us clearly Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. John2:15 is this not music from the world! People should go see the history of the beginning of this music! The beat makes you go in a trance when I was lost I was in a trance when I would go to rock concert or listen to it

[BCRIBB4real]

Excellent Video Martin!

and i see a lot of people disagreeing with you here is it because you have offended them with the truth?

what ever happened to the discernment that we are supposed to have when we have received the true Gift of the Holy Spirit? i have to say have they not yet learned Christ? have they not been able to separate the Holy from the profane?

woe unto them who call evil good, and put light for darkness and bitter for sweet

we are separate from the world as people of God!

[singingcowboy674]

if the music doesn't cultivate an attitude of praise and worship. That is not to beat you down tim, but maybe God might deepen your understanding of how He wants you to come before Him. Let me ask you, yes it says because of Christ we can go boldly before the throne. But what does that word mean? If you approached God on His throne, w/ Christ at His right, would you bounce in "yo, waht's up!" My guess is you'd enter His court with reverence, humility and then fall down at His feet and worship.

[singingcowboy674]

What did Jesus say to do when you pray? Go into a closet. By that did He mean you are not supposed to worship in public, I don't think so. But what He was driving at from at least one aspect of it, is, in the closet, it's quiet. It's often dark. You can focus your thoughts and draw tight the reins of your wandering heart. In all years prior, that inspirational was a closet. Though we may be all together, each was alone with the Savior. Martin is right. The lyrics don't matter if the music doesn'

[singingcowboy674]

be recieved of the person who is listening, then to what avail are they? The words cannot protect you. And if you take away the words, you are left with nothing more than what Crowley wanted. When you are headbanging, your focus is NOT on Christ. It is on "rocking out". That band leader scarcely mentioned Christ in his whole performance. To my knowledge, not a soul was saved as a result of that "inspirational". Which historically souls being saved afterward is commonplace.

[singingcowboy674]

There was not one single ounce of worship that went on in that place that night. You could not even hear yourself THINK much less focus on praising God the Father and the Master. The floor was quaking from a steady bounce from the kids who swarmed the stage. Yelling at the top of their lungs "rocking out", banging their heads...it was IMPOSSIBLE to HEAR much less UNDERSTAND the words that the band was singing. If it cannot be heard and understood, what does the lyrics matter? And if they can't

[singingcowboy674]

like myself would be out in the courtyard with the kids before they were let into the auditorium for the service. We would cultivate a quiet, reflective, worshipful atmosphere. The Holy Spirit flowed from breast to breast. And that would spill over into the inspirational. Well, in this one particular year, instead of a drama or skit, the kids decided (that was the problem there) to have a "christian" band there instead. It was the most unispirational inspirational service I've ever attended.

[singingcowboy674]

I believe what Martin is trying to say though is correct. It has to do with mindset and preparing your heart for worship. Worship has to do w/ praising God as well as a bit of self introspection. Case in point. I'm college alumni staff of a Christ centered school club called Y Club. We have an event to close the year called CLS (Christian Life Conference) and on Saturday there is always an inspirational. In all year prior, the inspirational was focused on witness and worship. And the musicians

[singingcowboy674]

I'm not exactly sure if Elvis was demon possessed or not, but he was in submission to the Illuminati. And so demonic influence was all around him if not in him. And that wore the man down. I believe I even hear tell of him having a vision of STALIN and believed that it was the Christ. Satan did have a death grip on the man in the end. As is obvious from the result. However I believe you are being a bit argumentative timsh6. Nobody is calling you a "bad person" because you listend to Elvis.

[keitheric5]

I listen to contemporary chriatian music on KLOVE radio, now that is true music that glofiries God.

[timsh6]

Here,s some lyrics for ya" gods law has not been done away,so before you go onto think and say there,s no law to obide by today just what exactly did jesus say think not that i,ve dome to abolish the law but to fulfil.So here,s the words of jesus you that you cannot deny so to say the law has been done away with is a total lie.

[timsh6]

rock n roll is about feel,n

[timsh6]

it depends really on what the lyrics say imo

[timsh6]

i think you people just make this up as you go

[timsh6]

So if i listen to Elvis Presley that makes me wrong?

[martinthezman]

@timsh6 Elvis was a demon possessed, false mesiah. go to w w w . goodfight . o r g and click on their theater for the proof.

[timsh6]

@martinthezman you need to seek professional help

[jesusiloveyou2]

@martinthezman Amen! it's about time we say the truth and stop candy coating so it could please the ears! Elvis was a sexual image for many! God bless you bro!

[timsh6]

@jesusiloveyou2 sexual image? he moved to the music so that made him sexual? wow your,re delusional!

[timsh6]

@jesusiloveyou2 please save it sister, you have no clue as to what you,re talking about none!

[timsh6]

so if i kid uses a hula hoop and listens to music does that make them sexual and deviant? use your brain!