youre no fan of cliches ether eh? no matter what church you go to theyre full of them! but so is the rest of society: eco friendly, eco responsible, living organically....blablabla...
Haha --- its funny! Whenever I check the walls for videos of people like Tony Campolo and Shane Claiborne, all I see is bickering posts between people of different Christian perspectives!
No wonder New Atheism is becoming such a strong movement!
Claiborne's liberal social gospel can be heard any week on Oprah. Men are attracted to masculine true biblical gospel and not a woosie Hollywood-portrayed hippie Jesus wannabe. No wonder why the church can't attract MEN. No wonder!
The Simple Way? How about "The really, really simple way?" Or, "The super humble simple way", or "The More Simple and Humble than others way?" "The Simply Run at times of trouble from Iraq way?" "The Three Roomates calling themselves a commubity way?"
SC is the spiritual cynic who claims to speak the truth at all times to all men in all places. He dons the halo of fanatical follower of "Christ", a devotee to truth, but instead displays an empty, hollow life devoid real discipleship. He craves attention from the press and loves to hear himself speak on campuses across the USA. He feels like a god above all of who are not "simple" like he is, and does not know that he is serving Satan
Like many of SC followers and devotees, your admission that you are incapable of judging his life or doctrine is frightening, especially when we are commanded to do so in 1Cor. 5. Your statement is symptomatic of the gangrenous rot in evangelicalism today. Very sad, indeed.
Well, I am nopt a follwer of his, as a matter of fact I know only a little bit about his ministry. I do know however that you do sound more like a pharisee than a disciple...peace 1Cor 10:31
Yes, I don't want to belabor the point, and you are very well intentioned, but if you are not in a position to judge SC false life and false doctrine, how is it that you are qualified to judge that I "sound like a pharisee"? Peace, 1 Cor. 5
you seem really hostel towards Shane. i agree that we have the right to keep our brothers accountable and judge them. however i believe thats something that should be done with people we actually know. If you're basing these accusations of Shane on youtube videos then i would say that your accusations are uninformed. Don't expect to judge other brothers without being judged as well. However if you know Shane and have been involved in the same church as him then i take back what i say
Shane Claiboorne is Judas Iscariot, who betrays the real Jesus by the essential falseness of his life. Irresistably and radically false, he becomes the judge of Jesus, demanding "why wasn't this sold and given to the poor?" How stupid that so many vultures gather around his dead carcass...pitiful. Lenin would call you useless idiots
you clearly read apprising ministries more than your scripture - circular logic - judgement based on ignorance- and neglect on 2100 verses that have to do with the poor - ps - many have come to christ through his ministry. i have seen it.
spend less time throwing stones on the internet - really - wake up.
of course the weak effeminate "christ" you have come to see through his "simple way" ministry, is not the God of the Bible. The radical falseness of his false life, laughably false community, and false ministry belies his contention that he serves the poor. SC is making up lies about Jesus and it should stop
not effeminate - and yes Jesus talks about the poor when he takes about hell. the only time he ever references actual literal hell- is in regards to the poor.
Jesus was being anointed with that perfume that he wanted to sell. tell me didnt Jesus say whatever you do to the least of these you do unto me. shane is serving the destitute therefore he is serving Jesus. my friend littlejrt what jesus are you serving?
HaShem, ADONAI, King of kings, Lord of Lords, Master of Legions, Y--H Incarnate - This is the ONE GOD of gods, that I love, adore and am enslaved to. SC does not even know this God - but loves a homosexual marriage affirmig "deity" who is NOT God at all.
Brother, please go back and read your scripture. We are only to judge people by their fruit. Shane Claiborne is LIVING what he believes. He's living love. What in the world is wrong with that :) Anyways. Be blessed, but please, dont speak out against people who are living like Jesus did. Lates!
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I have read the Scripture and so should you. SC proclaims another jesus and a different way. SC's endorsement of gay marriage is enough for anyone to reject his false teachings.
SC represents another gospel, a different way. He speaks of "community" but has 2 roomates; he speaks of transforming lives and yet has no no converts or tranformed lives, he says he stands with Iraqis, but flees at the first sign of trouble. His game is not self-sacrifice, but self-promotion. He is literally Judas Iscariot, the judge of Jesus, who demands, "why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor?'
"Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their fathers treated the prophets." -Jesus
All these comments must mean you are doing something right, Shane. I know God accepts your actions as pure and faultless, and that is all that matters. Keep seeking the kingdom, brother!
Nobody is hating or rejecting SC because of the Son of Man, but because his life is detestable in its rejection of Yeshua HaMosiach, whom SC can't control and manipulate like the false Jesus he uses as his puppet.
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
dude you seem quiet angry and flashes of jelousy coming thru. Don't let that anger consume you. I dont know what SC did to piss U off. i never heard of him till recently. i think anyone who lives in Philly deserves a little respect--worse than Bagdad...
I am angry that he uses his weak effeminate, "jesus" to advance his so-called "conversations all of which in their serpentine form question the authority of God's Word just as the devil who said, "has God really said?" to our mother EVE
the Jesus he speaks of is the Jesus who cared for the sick, the poor the widowed, he was friends of the sinners, tax collectors,prostitutes,and roman soldiers, and he spoke against and rejected religious people like the pharisees. your exactly like the pharisee in the temple who thanks God that hes not like the tax collector standing next to him.
SC favors homosexual rights - that alone akes him apostate. You want to follow sc's "jesus"? Follow him to the grave which is where SC is eading you. grace and peace, btw.
I guess you would have been one of those people who would have been angry at Jesus when he dined with the outcasts and sinners, eh? I bet you still hate the fact that Jesus said love your enemies and never mentioned Homosexuality....wonder why? Peace
I am angry that SC's Jesus is wicked, accursed and false, that his "JC" looks and acts like him, and that his "JC" is the champion of gay rights. SC's "JC" is so distant and estranged from the Biblical Yeshua HaMosiach that it would be laughable, were it not so pathetic. Grace and peace.
I think we see and hear what we want to. Scripure says that 'God is love.." and also that He is just and holy, but I tend to think in some circles the God of Love is forgotten. Yes, God loves gays and we should as well...
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
You seem all hung up on one idea. Do some research. Read his book. Learn a little more about this guy before you decide to be hateful. And don't ever describe his Jesus as "effeminate". His Jesus is about to change the world through him and others who are willing to act as faithfully as he has.
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is bogus, and his marxist message is a lie
The one thing I am hung up on is the essential falseness of SC's life. Zero substance, no understanding of history and truly a cowardly individual fled from Iraq at the first sign of trouble. Our how about his publicity stunts like the "money drop"? He is the Chris McCandless of the "evangelical left" going "into the wild", respecting only the image he has created of himself.
sorry about the typos. The issues SC undermines and rots with his pious sense of self-importance are too great to be ignored. Don't let him dupe you like all the other roomates who have come and gone after living with him in Philly. He is fraud, plain and simple.
I wish I could meet you and give you a hug and speak to you about the Jesus who gave his life for you. He loves you so much and I will pray for you to accept the love He has to offer. He is not a God of anger. I don't know how old you are but as a teacher of the Word I would love to give you some scriptures to meditate on. "Be still and know that I am God."
I am still, and I know that you are NOT God. Your patronizing attitude and self-proclamation as a "teacher of the Word" demonstrates precisely the type of spiritual arrogance exuded by Claiborne and his ilk. Bring me a violin....
You are absolutely correct, in what you say after I read my own writing I must sound self righteous and self-serving! I didn't even pray and ask the Lord for guidance and truthfully I am wrong to spend time on youtube to begin with. The phrase "Be still and know I am God" comes straight from the scriptures and I have to use it all the time when I need to shut-up and listen to Him. The bottom line is He (God) loves and adores the both of us no matter if we love how Shane does ministry or not.
Yes, this guy's life is a lie. Goes to Iraq as a "peacekeeper" to show solidarity with persecuted, but cowardly flees at the first sign of trouble when the "Empire's" army overthrows Saddam. Its not about helping the poor or persecuted, its about an image of himself that he wants to portray. Totally, laughable.
I am glad you can see that its his "life"' that is at issue. Was SC "being Jesus" when abandoned the Iraqiis whose peace he had sworn to prtect, or was he acting out of his own shameless sense of self-promotion as in the NY look-at-me I'm important "money drop"? Use you mind: SC invited to look at his life and it turns ut he is a fraud.
Shane Claiborne is a shameless self-promoter who delights in radical stupidity for his own sake, to bring glory to his dream, not God's. He has a couple of roomates and calls it "community". What a farce. Its all slogans. SC serves a different Jesus, a weak, effeminate, lover of "social justice." One never hears Shane Claiborne speak of biblical justice, because the god he preaches is estranged from the Bible. SC is false, radically.
ODCC church in Sherwood loves Tony and Peggy Campolo. God Bless you, Shane! I am making my teen-age son read your book. Well, 'making' is a strong word. Your words have certainly disturbed my comfort level. I love what your are doing, Brother. Peace and grace to you all in Philly from Arkansas.
Hmm, I wonder where he is; that's the San Damiano Cross. :) Very Franciscan. :)
EhJayJC 1 year ago
i do like this guy though! he seems real.
Lisucaxx 3 years ago 4
So many emerging cliche phrases: conversation, dialogue.
WHS1999 3 years ago
youre no fan of cliches ether eh? no matter what church you go to theyre full of them! but so is the rest of society: eco friendly, eco responsible, living organically....blablabla...
Lisucaxx 3 years ago
spiritual arrogance... shane claiborne?
no matter your spiritual beliefs,
you should have no reason to think anything like that.
he is the opposite of arrogant.
any revolutionary spiritual leader is going to be confident and know what the hell they are talking about!
obviously.
i think you are mistaking that for arrogance.
krazynina217 3 years ago 3
God Bless you, for your help for the needy.
johnholby 3 years ago
life is so short...
why argue? You never know what tomorrow will bring... maybe death... maybe life... maybe something in between.
but each moment that we have control of our senses, we much CHOOSE LIFE...
AbiBird 4 years ago
Haha --- its funny! Whenever I check the walls for videos of people like Tony Campolo and Shane Claiborne, all I see is bickering posts between people of different Christian perspectives!
No wonder New Atheism is becoming such a strong movement!
shawnkanderson 4 years ago
ha... Shane has a long neck. it's funny : )
crazyitalian17 4 years ago
Claiborne's liberal social gospel can be heard any week on Oprah. Men are attracted to masculine true biblical gospel and not a woosie Hollywood-portrayed hippie Jesus wannabe. No wonder why the church can't attract MEN. No wonder!
TownhallVideos 4 years ago
"..masculine true biblical gospel.." ???
Where was the heart of Jesus? Was it not with the outcast,the poor,the forgotten,the sinners?? Who are those people today?
boomac62 4 years ago
Do you even know what "circular reasoning" is?
littlejrt 4 years ago
The Simple Way? How about "The really, really simple way?" Or, "The super humble simple way", or "The More Simple and Humble than others way?" "The Simply Run at times of trouble from Iraq way?" "The Three Roomates calling themselves a commubity way?"
littlejrt 4 years ago
SC is the spiritual cynic who claims to speak the truth at all times to all men in all places. He dons the halo of fanatical follower of "Christ", a devotee to truth, but instead displays an empty, hollow life devoid real discipleship. He craves attention from the press and loves to hear himself speak on campuses across the USA. He feels like a god above all of who are not "simple" like he is, and does not know that he is serving Satan
littlejrt 4 years ago
I think he is trying to serve the poor.
boomac62 4 years ago
I think SC is serving himself, unless of course he is serving the poor as Judas Iscariot pretended to champion and serve them.
littlejrt 4 years ago
I think it's best to be careful when judging the heart of others.
boomac62 4 years ago
We judge his life and doctrine, which is what SC invites us to judge. On both counts the false teacher fails.
littlejrt 4 years ago
He serves himself no differently than his health and wealth counterpart Benny Hinn
littlejrt 4 years ago
Well, again I'll leave the judging to our Lord.
peace
1 cor 10:31
boomac62 4 years ago
Like many of SC followers and devotees, your admission that you are incapable of judging his life or doctrine is frightening, especially when we are commanded to do so in 1Cor. 5. Your statement is symptomatic of the gangrenous rot in evangelicalism today. Very sad, indeed.
littlejrt 4 years ago
Well, I am nopt a follwer of his, as a matter of fact I know only a little bit about his ministry. I do know however that you do sound more like a pharisee than a disciple...peace 1Cor 10:31
boomac62 4 years ago
Yes, I don't want to belabor the point, and you are very well intentioned, but if you are not in a position to judge SC false life and false doctrine, how is it that you are qualified to judge that I "sound like a pharisee"? Peace, 1 Cor. 5
littlejrt 4 years ago
Sorry my friend but I'm really not interested in a debate with a brother or sister in christ, peace
boomac62 4 years ago
Go in peace. shalom.
littlejrt 4 years ago
you seem really hostel towards Shane. i agree that we have the right to keep our brothers accountable and judge them. however i believe thats something that should be done with people we actually know. If you're basing these accusations of Shane on youtube videos then i would say that your accusations are uninformed. Don't expect to judge other brothers without being judged as well. However if you know Shane and have been involved in the same church as him then i take back what i say
mamothmanX 3 years ago
Shane Claiboorne is Judas Iscariot, who betrays the real Jesus by the essential falseness of his life. Irresistably and radically false, he becomes the judge of Jesus, demanding "why wasn't this sold and given to the poor?" How stupid that so many vultures gather around his dead carcass...pitiful. Lenin would call you useless idiots
littlejrt 4 years ago
you clearly read apprising ministries more than your scripture - circular logic - judgement based on ignorance- and neglect on 2100 verses that have to do with the poor - ps - many have come to christ through his ministry. i have seen it.
spend less time throwing stones on the internet - really - wake up.
and4red 4 years ago
of course the weak effeminate "christ" you have come to see through his "simple way" ministry, is not the God of the Bible. The radical falseness of his false life, laughably false community, and false ministry belies his contention that he serves the poor. SC is making up lies about Jesus and it should stop
littlejrt 4 years ago
haha - nope. you're very wrong.
not effeminate - and yes Jesus talks about the poor when he takes about hell. the only time he ever references actual literal hell- is in regards to the poor.
and4red 4 years ago
Jesus was being anointed with that perfume that he wanted to sell. tell me didnt Jesus say whatever you do to the least of these you do unto me. shane is serving the destitute therefore he is serving Jesus. my friend littlejrt what jesus are you serving?
aqwerdsilence 4 years ago
HaShem, ADONAI, King of kings, Lord of Lords, Master of Legions, Y--H Incarnate - This is the ONE GOD of gods, that I love, adore and am enslaved to. SC does not even know this God - but loves a homosexual marriage affirmig "deity" who is NOT God at all.
littlejrt 4 years ago
Sc is a false teacher and a coward. That is why he fled Iraq like the coward he really is...wicked false and tricksy
littlejrt 4 years ago
To littlejrt:
Brother, please go back and read your scripture. We are only to judge people by their fruit. Shane Claiborne is LIVING what he believes. He's living love. What in the world is wrong with that :) Anyways. Be blessed, but please, dont speak out against people who are living like Jesus did. Lates!
lexathedreamer 4 years ago 4
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I have read the Scripture and so should you. SC proclaims another jesus and a different way. SC's endorsement of gay marriage is enough for anyone to reject his false teachings.
littlejrt 4 years ago
SC represents another gospel, a different way. He speaks of "community" but has 2 roomates; he speaks of transforming lives and yet has no no converts or tranformed lives, he says he stands with Iraqis, but flees at the first sign of trouble. His game is not self-sacrifice, but self-promotion. He is literally Judas Iscariot, the judge of Jesus, who demands, "why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor?'
littlejrt 4 years ago
"Blessed are you when men hate you, when they exclude you and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven. For that is how their fathers treated the prophets." -Jesus
All these comments must mean you are doing something right, Shane. I know God accepts your actions as pure and faultless, and that is all that matters. Keep seeking the kingdom, brother!
RachoandPresto 4 years ago
p.s. Saint Francis is a hero of mine as well
RachoandPresto 4 years ago
how do u know that what SC is doing os pleasing in God's sight? Your forefathers said the same thing about the false teachers of their day.
littlejrt 4 years ago
Nobody is hating or rejecting SC because of the Son of Man, but because his life is detestable in its rejection of Yeshua HaMosiach, whom SC can't control and manipulate like the false Jesus he uses as his puppet.
littlejrt 4 years ago
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
littlejrt 4 years ago
dude you seem quiet angry and flashes of jelousy coming thru. Don't let that anger consume you. I dont know what SC did to piss U off. i never heard of him till recently. i think anyone who lives in Philly deserves a little respect--worse than Bagdad...
Onglao8 4 years ago
I am angry that he uses his weak effeminate, "jesus" to advance his so-called "conversations all of which in their serpentine form question the authority of God's Word just as the devil who said, "has God really said?" to our mother EVE
littlejrt 4 years ago
the Jesus he speaks of is the Jesus who cared for the sick, the poor the widowed, he was friends of the sinners, tax collectors,prostitutes,and roman soldiers, and he spoke against and rejected religious people like the pharisees. your exactly like the pharisee in the temple who thanks God that hes not like the tax collector standing next to him.
aqwerdsilence 4 years ago
SC favors homosexual rights - that alone akes him apostate. You want to follow sc's "jesus"? Follow him to the grave which is where SC is eading you. grace and peace, btw.
littlejrt 4 years ago
I guess you would have been one of those people who would have been angry at Jesus when he dined with the outcasts and sinners, eh? I bet you still hate the fact that Jesus said love your enemies and never mentioned Homosexuality....wonder why? Peace
1 cor. 10:31
boomac62 4 years ago 2
I am angry that SC's Jesus is wicked, accursed and false, that his "JC" looks and acts like him, and that his "JC" is the champion of gay rights. SC's "JC" is so distant and estranged from the Biblical Yeshua HaMosiach that it would be laughable, were it not so pathetic. Grace and peace.
littlejrt 4 years ago
I think we see and hear what we want to. Scripure says that 'God is love.." and also that He is just and holy, but I tend to think in some circles the God of Love is forgotten. Yes, God loves gays and we should as well...
boomac62 4 years ago
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
littlejrt 4 years ago
You seem all hung up on one idea. Do some research. Read his book. Learn a little more about this guy before you decide to be hateful. And don't ever describe his Jesus as "effeminate". His Jesus is about to change the world through him and others who are willing to act as faithfully as he has.
RachoandPresto 4 years ago
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is wicked, tricksy and false.
littlejrt 4 years ago
There is nothing noble about SC or TSW in their proclamatioin of another "Jesus". There is nothing hateful in pointing out the falseness of his "gospel". I have read much of his book, and its almost impossible not to be nauseated in reading it. The "jesus" he preaches is repulsive as "it" his not the Jesus of Scripture the true stumbling block. Use your head about this false prophet, use the scriptures. He is bogus, and his marxist message is a lie
littlejrt 4 years ago
The one thing I am hung up on is the essential falseness of SC's life. Zero substance, no understanding of history and truly a cowardly individual fled from Iraq at the first sign of trouble. Our how about his publicity stunts like the "money drop"? He is the Chris McCandless of the "evangelical left" going "into the wild", respecting only the image he has created of himself.
littlejrt 4 years ago
sorry about the typos. The issues SC undermines and rots with his pious sense of self-importance are too great to be ignored. Don't let him dupe you like all the other roomates who have come and gone after living with him in Philly. He is fraud, plain and simple.
littlejrt 4 years ago
i guess you know him personally? littlejrt
scgeant 4 years ago
I wish I could meet you and give you a hug and speak to you about the Jesus who gave his life for you. He loves you so much and I will pray for you to accept the love He has to offer. He is not a God of anger. I don't know how old you are but as a teacher of the Word I would love to give you some scriptures to meditate on. "Be still and know that I am God."
all4him62 4 years ago
I am still, and I know that you are NOT God. Your patronizing attitude and self-proclamation as a "teacher of the Word" demonstrates precisely the type of spiritual arrogance exuded by Claiborne and his ilk. Bring me a violin....
littlejrt 4 years ago
You are absolutely correct, in what you say after I read my own writing I must sound self righteous and self-serving! I didn't even pray and ask the Lord for guidance and truthfully I am wrong to spend time on youtube to begin with. The phrase "Be still and know I am God" comes straight from the scriptures and I have to use it all the time when I need to shut-up and listen to Him. The bottom line is He (God) loves and adores the both of us no matter if we love how Shane does ministry or not.
all4him62 4 years ago
Thank you for yor honesty and candor.
littlejrt 4 years ago
Yes, this guy's life is a lie. Goes to Iraq as a "peacekeeper" to show solidarity with persecuted, but cowardly flees at the first sign of trouble when the "Empire's" army overthrows Saddam. Its not about helping the poor or persecuted, its about an image of himself that he wants to portray. Totally, laughable.
littlejrt 4 years ago
read the guy's book, his life speaks for itself, maybe instead of dissing him you should be spending time "being Jesus" to those around you...
timsta21 4 years ago
I am glad you can see that its his "life"' that is at issue. Was SC "being Jesus" when abandoned the Iraqiis whose peace he had sworn to prtect, or was he acting out of his own shameless sense of self-promotion as in the NY look-at-me I'm important "money drop"? Use you mind: SC invited to look at his life and it turns ut he is a fraud.
littlejrt 4 years ago
Shane Claiborne is a shameless self-promoter who delights in radical stupidity for his own sake, to bring glory to his dream, not God's. He has a couple of roomates and calls it "community". What a farce. Its all slogans. SC serves a different Jesus, a weak, effeminate, lover of "social justice." One never hears Shane Claiborne speak of biblical justice, because the god he preaches is estranged from the Bible. SC is false, radically.
littlejrt 4 years ago
ODCC church in Sherwood loves Tony and Peggy Campolo. God Bless you, Shane! I am making my teen-age son read your book. Well, 'making' is a strong word. Your words have certainly disturbed my comfort level. I love what your are doing, Brother. Peace and grace to you all in Philly from Arkansas.
denislane1 4 years ago