I find it amusing that the whites voicing concern over immigration are probably the same people who buy into the old "white man's burden," and were more than ok with the British Empire dominance over them. As long as they weren't living next door.
There is almost always reason for hate, but often its caused by irelevant things
All pointless rasists with arguments like:"ni***rs should not have rights and work in fields" should go to jail, but if some 70 years old grandma(which is surely not nazi) say:"i dont like blacks because they steal" there is really a reason why she thinks that.
Rasism should be punished on all sides the same.
Also rasism should be forbiden because it causes problems, but not ALL of the problems
2. Thats why i dont think that rasism, should really be "banned", i dont think that anyone who say: "i dont like immigrants" should go to jail, but i also think that rasism shouldnt be tolerated, and people who spread the hate should go to jail. Rasism should be taken as "sign" that there is something wrong with country. Islamophobia is not caused by nationalists, but by rise of criminality and fear of radical islam.
1. DprJones, I really like all your Videos but i need to disagree with you, as well as with Willet.
The rasism is not cause of different immigration problems, the rasism is result of immigration problems. There is really just a small amout of people that hate some country, race, religion, or group of people for no reason. Try ask any racist why do they hate black people and none of them will say:"well because they are black", but somethime like:"They rise criminality and they are agressive"
If you want to know the special dangers of Islam, as opposed to any other religion/culture, check out my channel. If you do, please READ WHAT I WRITE. That´s a big problem these days - people don´t listen, people don´t read, they distort and ignore. And I would suggest you check out the documentary "Islam - What the West Needs to Know", if you haven´t already.
Also, you mean to say you want to make laws that supress racism?
People need to realize, there is only ONE world, and only ONE race. Why all the fuss even today about "MY" country? COUNTRY? An arbitrarily marked land mass on a much larger landmass on yet a much larger planet.... People need to start thinking what is best for HUMANS, not AMERICANS (or whatever nation you prefer) etc.
@Azrhei That's incorrect. Nationhood is marked by systems of law and government.
It is when people are all considered "the same", or in your terms, "HUMANS" that the most appalling crimes are committed. As "HUMANS" you suggest that what is best for you, is best for me...and that isn't neccasarily so. Crimes against minorities and individuals are perpetrated under the pretext that "it is for the good of humanity"...in essence, it is "might is right".
@Stereolabdream I would assume then that people of like mindedness are more likely to war or commit crimes against one another? That more wars and crimes are therefore committed not by people who have differences but because they have similarities? Now, I'm certain you'll think of something, but I can't personally think of one war or crime statistic that backs your claim. In fact, despite my limited knowledge of the subject, I would claim most wars have been caused by differences or greed.
@Azrhei Yes, Wars are caused by differences. That is regrettable. But equally, difference produces protest and debate and variety and free choice.
Your vision for "Humanity" finds its closest analogy, I think, in the Soviet Union under Stalin. There, free will and difference were subjegated to the will of the state and the individual. This was enforced by force, of course. The Soviet Union murdered as many of its own citizens in the name of "unity" as it lost fighting The Nazis...
Im reaching a point where i no longer want to hear any more points on utube,its always one extreme or another never a middle way,each trying to censor each others freedom of speech,each throwing vile insults,the BNP saying deport and liberals like coughlan saying your bigoted and evil for being worried about mass immigration,i despise you all.
Hey DPR Jones I like hou you used "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line in the background when Enoch is talking at about 1:40 I love that Soundtrack!
So one can be a non-racist, but still be seen as making racists remarkes by public opinion. Well DPR, I think this precisly the point Martin is raising here. Either one sees the problems with immigration or one doesn't. But the difference is only lack of knowledge either way, not racism itself !
There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your heritage and cultural identity alive. But the thing is now that it's incredibly easy to travel to most parts of the world, compared to say 700 years ago for example, people of any nation are going to do so because they want to. I hope people realize that taking constructively positive initiatives to keep one's heritage alive and not changing the laws and focusing more on one's country's history, doesn't mean your country is being racist.
i pesonaly dont care about race if 99% of british people are black or asian in 50 years i dont care that is merely an asthetic choice, however islam is poison to the minds of all humankind and must be destroyed
Nice work, Mr Jones. This brings back a lot of memories, growing up in the UK in late sixties and early seventies. I'd almost forgotten about that deep embittered irrational racism that was almost like a hobby for so many people.
I'm a bit confused by this video. I understand the gist of it, but is DPR saying that muslim immigration is not a huge problem in the UK? The government does a terrible job at assimilating those muslims.
The decline and fall of secular democracy is at hand. Secularists lack even the energy to reproduce. They have given up....but expect a glorious future into their laps. Well it is their 'right' after all. CATHOLIC STATE for the return folks......before the West goes to its grave.
I first subscribed to Willett's channel because he was one of the few YouTubers who was willing to tackle the monarchy and defend the republican cause. But now all his videos seem to be "lefties this" and "lefties that". I no longer have any time for the man.
What's so bad about promiscuity? Why does this guy group it in with racism and rape? Sex is magnificent- it is what we humans do.
Why is it that some of the most vocal opponents of this religious trash espouse views that would make them right at home in the very theocracies they deem to oppose?
You don't know the special dangers of Islamic Immigration? How about the muslim ghettos of france, how about the home grown terrorism, how about the two-faced insiders working for terrorist organizations? How about the guys who are supposed to be deported for terrorist ties but stay here with 12 kids, living off their well-fare. These are all one google search away and their real, are you trying to say they are NOT special dangers to islamic immigration?
You don't know the special dangers of Islamic Immigration? How about the muslim ghettos of france, how about the home grown terrorism, how about the two-faced insiders working for terrorist organizations? How about the guys who are supposed to be deported for terrorist ties but stay here with 12 kids, living off their well-fare. These are all one google search away and their real, are you trying to say they are NOT special dangers to islamic immigration?
DPR - I suggest you read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book "Infidel".
I think MartinJWillett is alluding to some concepts explained very well in this book. in short, Islam cannot integrate with western society because some of the central pillars of our society, namely freedom of speech and equality of the sexes are the antithesis of Islam. Muslims moving into Europe will not integrate - they CANNOT, without giving up Allah and Islam. THAT is the problem (as i see it anyway)
@ThePassiveFist DPR already knows about Islamism. As he stated in this video; he opposes the Sharia. This video was about MartinJWillett using Enoch Powells' Rivers of Blood speech; a speech about race - not a religious doctrine.
anyone who opposes the internationalist multicultural enforced norm gets called a bigot by default, it's the clear and easy tactic of the social progressive to demonetize and non inclusive view no matter what the reason.
@Curas1 just because you do not agree does not mean it isn't true. if you think that black people, or muslims do not deserve equal rights, especially sharia courts, than you are a bigot. plain and simple. it is not just restricted to white people, though. if you think white people don't deserve rights, or should be allowed to go to certain areas or do certain things, you are a bigot.
@MobileThinker - Muslims deserve equal rights. Sharia courts are -not- equal rights. Those are "special privileges," just like the "rights" afforded church organizations in the United States, such as non-taxable, non-prophet, unaccountability and able to discriminate for things no other organization can discriminate for {like race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, etcetera}. These things should not be allowed in any civilization. "When in Rome, do what the Romans do."
@LeksServices do you understand the concept of a club? a club has the right to discriminate for any reason, they can say you can't join because of skin color, or sexual preference. a church is a club, sharia courts are clubs, jewish courts are clubs. get over the idea that muslims are bad but jews aren't, they are equal.
They're equally poor in that they're clubs of idiots. However the clubs do vary in the rules their particular imaginary friend set up. And some are more draconian than others.
If we had a scale of -100 to 100 with 0 being neutral and 100 being reasonable and -100 being unreasonable, all of these religions clearly would be below -100. probably around -2000 or so for european based christians and -20000 for middle-east muslims.
@CrimsonRefractions you know, i see them as equals, both being -20000, mainly because i don't let the few bullshit lines about loving you neighbor and turning the other cheek from the bible color my view of the religion as a whole. any religion that supports even a quarter of the evils that the Abrahamic religions do is at the very least a -1000...
Still, one can escape from one delusion easier than one can escape from the other, as such I would rate them slightly different.
But yes, it's all the same type of delusion, and it all needs to go. Perhaps psychologists can have a role here, after all they once thought homosexuality was a disorder. Now there actually is a disorder that is widespread and curable, but they remain silent.
@CrimsonRefractions i will grant you that some delusions are easier to break. also, neuroscience has taken a large leap in the whole, "is religion a brain disorder" thing. i know that with higher dopamine levels you are more likely to accept religious claims, just like you are more likely to see patterns that aren't really there. from what i understand religion may in fact be directly related to brain chemistry, which means we can "cure" it.
Just like pumping blood is what the heart does, you are what your brain does. So naturally anything you are has a representation of sorts in your brain. Just like altering the representations in the brain has an effect on what it does: you. It's one and the same.
While certain predispositions may make individuals vulnerable to delusions, I doubt it's something a simple education won't cure. And 'curing' these predispositions won't take away the learned delusions either.
If Willett and others remain infuriatingly vague, of course I'll call them bigots because it eventually becomes obvious. Futhermore, as multiculturalism is repeatedly criticised, and no alternative or solution is offered in its stead, of course I'm going to think you believe in forced repatriation.
The solution is a largely "mono cultural" and less diversity including racial. The largest sample size done on multiculturalism by the left of center Professor Robert Putnam shows that the more diversity in a community the more distrust between and within groups there is. People are more isolated and less willing to work on community projects and have a welfare state. Race is a giant biological and sociological factor, more than class and more than gender.
@IndividualAutonomy Oh for fuck's sake not you. The anarchist who wants government protection from brown people.
"The solution is a largely "mono cultural" and less diversity including racial." So you do favour forced repatriation? "People are more isolated and less willing to work on community projects and have a welfare state." I thought you hated the welfare state? "Race is a giant biological and sociological factor, more than class and more than gender." It's a social construct.
@niriop No, I don't mind certain forms of welfare depending on what their costs and benefits are. I am not an anarchist. No, it is not a "social construct" (which is just a phrase thrown around by people who haven't looked at what is being talked about). The Race IQ differences are there, there are different diseases different races are more likely to get, a majority of Biological/Physical Anthropologists believe in race, and more.
@IndividualAutonomy Looking at your channel at this point, my my, you've completely gone off the fucking wagon and embraced the National Propertarian standard.
"The Race IQ differences are there" Educated to the same standards, no definite difference has ever been seen, ever.
"No, it is not a "social construct"" "Biological/Physical Anthropologists believe in race" I knew there was a reason why I favourited this: watch?v=ibYZHxKYFw0
Quit relying on Mankind Quarterly would you please?
Yeah I have seen that report. There different ideas as to how to classify race. Some of the old classifications weren't the best. Google PBS A proponent's perspective George W. Gill Does Race Exist. I don't use Mankind Quarterly. Yes, even controls for parenting, socio-economic status, etc the difference is still there and has been noted for awhile. For Race IQ google The Medical News, Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic.
@niriop - While I agree there is a difference in IQ between different "races" and cultures, I would argue this is primarily due to the willingness of those "races" and cultures to discipline and educate members of their community. Some communities focus more on discipline and less on education {fundamentalist dogmatists}, and those tend to be the most uninformed. This is why we need to force everyone to conform to secular rules and accept secular education.
@niriop - Some groups of people who have certain physically distinctive characteristics are, in fact, prone to certain illnesses while others are not. A small percentage of Europeans are immune to HIV, for example, while some Africans are immune to malaria. The percentage of Europeans that would be immune to HIV could arguably have been higher in the past, but the trait's been thinned by immigration. There is apparently a new group of Africans also immune to HIV due to high infection rates.
This guy sounds like a real piece of work. Not only does he push the fear-mongering, anti-Muslim agenda, but he ironically blocks and deletes comments on his videos and profile. Isn't one of the very reasons he's afraid of Islam is because it's a threat to freedom of speech and expression? Wow, the irony...
@IndividualAutonomy Not so sure about this representation, especially the first stat. Have a look at watch?v=5s3sCMD5Wg4 for a detailed run down of statistics on radical Islamic Students and non radicals.
@IndividualAutonomy I would also rethink "How are Muslims a benefit to Britain". There are some very wealthy altruistic Muslims around including the ones on the "good " side of your statistics. Perhaps better to word it "of what benefit is Islam to Britain?" On that I would agree and throw all the rest including Jehovas Witneses, scientologists and C of E to boot.
Right, and 25% of American Republicans think that Obama might be the anti-Christ, while even more believe that he was born in Kenya.
People have all sorts of radical views, but that doesn't serve as a legitimate reason to kick them out of the country. Hell, you're just as bad as they are -- you both advocate the removal of each other. The only way to truly defeat the Sharia movement is to rise above it and use information as your weapon -- not deportation.
Believing Obama is the anti Christ is as bad as wanting Shariah law or a third thinking Muslims should bring down Western society? Also, Christian fundamentalism is on the decline in the US and Western Europe. I think in 2040 something the projection is around 4% of the population will be "Christian fundamentalist". Will Islam it is reverse. The most radical or the second and third generation and it is radicalizing. They are not the same in trend or in proportion.
cont.....in every sense of the word. The fact that he was a qualified academic does nothing to mitigate the deliberate and vile wording used in the speech, and if he is as intelligent as you say, he must have well known the effect the speech would have, and thus endorsed such an outcome. That he was a gentlemanly old Tory boy does nothing to alter the fact that he was as damaging to the fabric of British society then as Nick Griffin and the EDL are today.
Well, that's a shame, I quite enjoyed watching your videos dprjones, that will not continue. To support, indeed by your own admission admire a vile, ignorant, bigoted bastard like Powell does massive damage to your credibility. The idea that a man who would deliberately incite people against immigrants, as much on the basis of their skin colour as their being foreign, is not a racist, and that he did not inspire and embolden racism, is completely untenable.......
Ok, you're against Sharia law having any enforceability in the UK... what about Halakha Law? I believe that already has an amount of enforceability in UK law (where it does not explicitly contradict UK law). And as a lawyer, I'm sure you're already aware of the Courts of Equity, which used Christian ideals and laws as an alternative to Courts of Law, or at least, were staffed by Christian authorities. Objection to Sharia law where it violates secular law is good, outright objection is wrong.
@puellanivis - I have no problems with a culture honoring it's own subset of rules where they do not contradict the secular law of the land. However, if a Sharia court in the UK decided to stone a woman to death for being raped, I'm absolutely certain that, with your belief that they should live according to their own rules, this is a perfectly acceptable outcome and the woman should, in fact, be stoned to death.
@LeksServices Um... where did you get that I'm down with stoning from "where it does not explicitly contradict [secular] law?"
Halakha law holds that murders should be executed, and that gays should be executed as well, however none of the modern first world states hold that to be allowable. Yet no one is freaking out about people practicing and including Halakha law in their own private contracts to the extent that it does not violate secular law.
@puellanivis - From where I stand, stoning a woman who had been raped should be grounds to arrest all parties involved for conspiracy to commit murder and, if they were successful, the murder in the first degree.
@LeksServices Absolutely, everything you say here is correct. But "If Person X does Y, then execute them" is not the entirety of Sharia law. Banning Sharia law outright just because it has a few execute-people-for-trivial-things is just as preposterous as banning Halakha law outright just because it has a few execute-people-for-trivial-things"... like dishonoring your mother and father earns the death penalty under Halakha law, too. Meanwhile, I only hear about objections to Sharia not Halakha.
Hey DPR, I largely agree with your points, but I recently saw a Dispatches report called "Britain's Islamic Republic" which scared the bejesus out of me....and I don't even live in Britain!
I'm very much interested on hearing your thoughts on it.
brilliant vid. Watching the documentary that you included in your vid just shows how nothing changes in the bigoted minds of those filled with fear and ignorance. All the same grievances those people had when black people emigrated into Britain proved a load of horseshit. Now it's the muslims turn and still the same horseshit being spouted. No they are not taking over. Yes they most integrate and will continue to do so contributing to the British whole. What is the fucking problem?
They have not integrated. As a whole they are at the bottom of the economic ladder and like the US, Australia, and elsewhere are vastly disproportionally represented in violent crime. They are not as diverse in their political voting either, almost completely favoring labor. Muslims are an even worse case. Have you looked at some of the stats or some of their positions?
@IndividualAutonomy 1st off the Enoch Powell speech was commenting on British immigration, so don't confuse what he said, and what I'm about to say with the US, because both have very different cultures in relation to race relations and immigration. What I said was that the fears espoused about the immigration of Black people from West Africa and the West Indies in particular have proven to be over blown and false.
@IndividualAutonomy At one point during the speech Powell said the white man would be become the minority to the black man. This was not the case. You know how much of the population they make up? 2%. Yep that's it. This flood of black people taking over our country makes up just 2%. That number was taken from the Census taken in 2001.
@IndividualAutonomy It might have gone up since then, but I doubt that considering in the space of about 30 years since that speech the "influx" of Black people only contributed to 2% of the population is really that much of a big deal. Now in terms of integration, culturally the influences of West Indians and Africans have been absorbed into the British culture where now it has become one.
@IndividualAutonomy Cusine, art, etc amongst others have been influenced because of this. Reggae is a good example of this. You should look it up.In terms of crime yes Black people do represent a disproportional amount of the prison population in comparison to the overall population.
@IndividualAutonomy However, this can be attributed to so many different influences such as socio-economic background, social attitudes of politicians, police officers, the lower economic class, etc, which are far to numerous to go into here. And if most vote towards the left so what? Maybe you guys on the right aren't making a very good case for them to vote that way.
@IndividualAutonomy And in terms of economic or political contributions instead I'll turn to you. Who is currently the most powerful man in the world? At any rate what you, and people like you don't seem to realise is that nations are not static. They are always in flux. What I mean by this is that they are constantly changing and evolving. The composition of its people can change almost entirely. Social attitudes, customs, patterns all change.
@IndividualAutonomy what my country was and what your country was 100 years ago isn't what it is now, nor will it be in 100 years time. Nations change and evolve, and you're just going to get left behind.
Well I am aware of some of what Powell said is false. As you can see I am not saying my positions are the same as his though we share a decent amount. One can have different music and food without having to import massive amounts of the third world immigrants, many of which don't cook for the host population. If one controls for employment, income, and education blacks still commit much higher violent crime. The largest indicator if an area has violent crime is race, not incom
Obama himself is half and half roughly. His political and economic contributions have not been that great or original. I would never deny nations change and evolve. However, they do not and will not change the same way if the UK's English, Scotish, Welsh, and Irish population becomes a minority as they are predicated to in 2100. The standard leftist line back to the Marxist was to say that economic determinism would come and no one could stop it.
All conservatives were reactionaries and communism would one day come. They turned out to be wrong. They are trying to do the same with cultural communism or cultural equality, saying it is the future and can't be stopped. It can be stopped and should be. The studies (Robert Putnam who did the largest sample size) on mulitculturalism and diversity show it is a net weakness economically and socially.
@IndividualAutonomy well in your case you kind of dragged Africans over to America. So they're not immigrants. And what the hell do you mean that many don't cook for the host population? You lost me on that one. And no, one of the biggest factors in crime is socio-economic background. Most crimes are economically based (e.g. theft).
Sure many (not all) of them are not immigrants but it doesn't chance the weakness. The vast majority of immigrants don't as a job or hobby cook or sing for the host population. You didn't need mass importation of the third world to have any of that. You can buy the recipe, import specialized chiefs, and import albums/give visas to bands. The biggest indicator of violence crime is race at .81 , not poverty, education level, or employment. I'll send you the link that controls
I usually like your output, but referencing this mind turd in your description is making me consider if being subbed to you is worthwhile. Martin's right in his evaluation of Richard, and so was thunderf00t.
"I don't do the citation required thing" - hence his lingering stupidity. I've learned more when researching things - ONLY so I don't look stupid on the internet - than I did in 12+ years of schooling.
@dprjones. A lot of this video is just you either agreeing with Willet or asking him to clarify what he's saying. Also, I think you and Willet are overlooking a big difference between what Powell was talking about in his Rivers of Blood speech and current events. Blacks/Africans are a race and Islam is not. Blacks/Africans didn't have an agenda as a group, but Muslims do have an agenda. Maybe I'm just tired writing this comment at around midnight, but I don't see the point of this video.
@MarlinBeta Oh yes, Muslims have an agenda.... I guess I will have to ask around in a Mosque to see what it is... Though I doubt I would earn anything but baffled looks, when I ask the question.
"You are a Muslim. So tell me, what is your agenda?"
@Wollff85 *sigh* I really shouldn't have to say this... Yes, not all Muslims have the overarching goal of displacing western culture (many prefer the freedoms of western culture). But the very vocal Muslims who want Sharia law for everyone and already practice Sharia within their little shut-in communities in place of the laws of whatever country they are living in are very dangerous. Especially when they hijack the western value buzzword of tolerance for their own nasty purposes.
You're still much, much, much more likely to die (say) in traffic than from a terrorist attack.
Muslim extremists are sexist and oppressive, as are Christian extremists, and Christian extremists outnumber their Muslim counterparts. Muslims are not nearly as violent as white supremacists.
What perverted practices they do have will die out in time, the best way to deal with the problem is through open debate and understanding, not ostracism.
@MarlinBeta Okay, so we have advanced from "Muslims have an agenda", to "some vocal Muslims are dangerous". Just to clarify: Are they more or less dangerous than the Jews practicing Halakha in their little shut in communities?
@Wollff85 I know this is a flawed point, or that someone will find fault with it, but when was the last time you heard of a jewish terrorist? Because of the association of radical Islam with terrorists or acts of terrorism, people are usually untrusting of the tight-knit communities Muslims form. It is likely born of fear of ostricisation, but ultimately ends up compounding the suspicion that they are hiding something, or that they simply do not like non-Muslims. It would seem that way, at least
@Wollff85 True, but association is a powerful thing. And the media is largely responsible for building this climate of fear, the very thing that terrorism seems intended to create. (Interesting thought... who exactly are the terrorists here?:D)
I fear modern media has channelled us down this route of 'selective awareness', for want of a better term. We are shown only fragments of what is going on, those parts that will provoke negativity, and they collective industry laps it up.
@Wollff85 I'm not very familiar with Halakha. But after reading a little, it seems much less contrary to secular law to me than Sharia. The real thing I have a problem with is when any group tries to subvert the laws the rest of a population are bound to by claiming some kind of special privilege. Harmless traditions such as food rules and when they celebrate holidays are fine, but when religious law contradicts secular law, then there are problems and that's Sharia for you.
It was this BS video that mad me unsubscribe to Martin J Willet. As libertarian, I may agree with some of his freed market, small government stances, I abhor racists and ignorant collectivists who ascribe traits and actions to people based on skin colour. Or religious affiliation.
Willet is an attention whore. He'll defend Enoch Powell, or claim it is okay to say "Rape victims were asking for it" just so that everyone will notice him.
Making video responses to his attention whoring gives him exactly what he wants. The only way to shut up the troll is to stop feeding it.
Have you noticed that few commenters care about Enoch Powel, this video, or the point behind the video (That Willett did not make fully clear his position, but left it for the viewer to infer)? All people care about is Islam. They don't care about Seiksm Hindus, Afro Carribeans. Just Islam. Everything else they can tolerate. Without Islam there would be no EDL and the BNP would be totally forgotten. This is Intereting. WHY!
The BNP & EDL still hate a lot of people other than muslims, but Islam is the easiest scapegoat that most people are scared of. If they shout about the evils of the Polish and they'll get scattered support, but pointing at Islam will get more support, even from some who would normally be more thoughtful about the rhetoric they hear.
My first thought about the Polish is my workmates. My first thought about Islam is the WTC attack & burkas.
DprJones welcome back. I have waiting for this for so long. Good Vid, but on Race considering how much GB got 'dat' on the blood and sweat of other races, it is rather well... poetic that the other races... came to their doors.
I asked Martin J willett for his vies on censorship. his reply...
"TheTomtompiper I do not approve of efforts to stop people expressing particular views anywhere being denied a platform, shouted down or harassed until they shut up"
He then added .
"On YouTube I think a person has an absolute right to block anybody they don't want to debate with and remove any posts on pages they control. "
@TheTomtompiper I disagree. It's not censorship to block unwelcome visitors from your channel any more than it's despotism to kick an unwelcome guest out of your own house. The censorship comes in trying to prevent people from expressing their views anywhere else on YT.
@lazyperfectionist1 Then you are missing the whole point of having the comments section, when a person puts a video on to You Tube they are expressing an opinion or making a statement. To then only accept views that agree with you on the comments section is to give a false impression of what people think of that opinion or statement, it is an attempt at deception and is dishonest. You Tube is a public place, not your own home or your personal space, it is the town square not your living room.
@lazyperfectionist1 Your Channel page is used to advertises your "Wares" it is far form being private. If you make a Video available to all to watch it is in the public domain and is in no way private. Consider the Channel page the shop window, and You Tube as a whole as the public square, blocking people on comments is like sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagree with you. As to what constitutes vile language, I would think that is up to the individual.
"Consider the Channel page the shop window, and You Tube as a whole as the public square, blocking people on comments is like sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagree with you."
My living room is not part of the town square. Kicking someone out of my home or blocking someone from my channel who has worn out his welcome is hardly akin to blocking him or her from all of YT.
"As to what constitutes vile language, I would think that is up to the individual."
I see. So if I decide that what someone else has been saying constitutes "vile language," that means I get to block him or her and this doesn't amount to "sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagrees with me?"
@lazyperfectionist1 You can't block someone from watching, only form commenting, you are just wrong in this instance, if you don't want people to comment, turn off all comments or don't post the video. if you keep the comments on and block people who disagree with you, that is censorship and deceitful.
@lazyperfectionist1 So I would agree about blocking abusive people, those making threats and using vile language to shock, but that is it, all other opinions on a video comment should be allowed and not censored. If you want to have a private Video, you have that option, if you make it public then it is your responsibility to allow fair comment, to avoid doing so is cowardly and again deceitful. I note Willetts has now made his videos private.
What is your point exactly? I can't imagine you're responding to every upload. What exactly is it that set you off in this one? There are many who have reasoned why Islam is a particularly vile religion. Harris and Dawkins to name but two. You don't have to agree, but to make it an explicit point that MartinJWillet doesn't elaborate on this point seems petty. Just assume he agrees with them. That's an assumption, I agree, but not an unreasonable one. Not one that merits a response.
Same tune, different country. Fear of change, fear of difference, using a great orator's words to further your own cause...sounds almost precisely like the United States' immigration issues, except ours is more Mexican than Muslim, and the anti-immigrants don't have an Enoch Powell to draw on; they have to rely on Newt Gingrich, basically, if they can rely on anyone at all.
Can't blame the guy - racism was pretty much a default aspect of a "civilized worldview" back then. This guy actually comes across as mild.
There is nothing wrong with ethnic diversity - if anything, it should be welcomed as a more healthy change. But isolationism of ethnic and religious communities (Muslims, Orthodox Jews etc.) contributes to social tension.
As a result, their children are brought up not sharing the values of the society they are currently living in. This doesn't help at all.
Immigration does seem to be one of the major issues faced by many countries in these times. It is a delicate issue where facts tend to be mixed with percieved stereotypes which then results in false accusations of racism.
One quote in the video i do agree with is that intergration is almost impossible as they do and would much rather setup communties rather than intergrate. Obviously facts like this can never represent all minorities , but i do feel it represent a large proportion.
For Goodness sake............... take it back
BewareTheBeast 2 months ago
I find it amusing that the whites voicing concern over immigration are probably the same people who buy into the old "white man's burden," and were more than ok with the British Empire dominance over them. As long as they weren't living next door.
Seele1 3 months ago
a line that stood out to me "This racial issue is a matter of national impotence!"
...forget an R there, dude?
setojurai 5 months ago
3. Bottomline:
There is almost always reason for hate, but often its caused by irelevant things
All pointless rasists with arguments like:"ni***rs should not have rights and work in fields" should go to jail, but if some 70 years old grandma(which is surely not nazi) say:"i dont like blacks because they steal" there is really a reason why she thinks that.
Rasism should be punished on all sides the same.
Also rasism should be forbiden because it causes problems, but not ALL of the problems
NeedForMadnessSVK 5 months ago in playlist Viac videí od používateľa dprjones
2. Thats why i dont think that rasism, should really be "banned", i dont think that anyone who say: "i dont like immigrants" should go to jail, but i also think that rasism shouldnt be tolerated, and people who spread the hate should go to jail. Rasism should be taken as "sign" that there is something wrong with country. Islamophobia is not caused by nationalists, but by rise of criminality and fear of radical islam.
NeedForMadnessSVK 5 months ago in playlist Viac videí od používateľa dprjones
1. DprJones, I really like all your Videos but i need to disagree with you, as well as with Willet.
The rasism is not cause of different immigration problems, the rasism is result of immigration problems. There is really just a small amout of people that hate some country, race, religion, or group of people for no reason. Try ask any racist why do they hate black people and none of them will say:"well because they are black", but somethime like:"They rise criminality and they are agressive"
NeedForMadnessSVK 5 months ago
The 500 character limit is just a concession to morons who insists upon having everything in slogan form.
jaymthegenius 10 months ago
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If you want to know the special dangers of Islam, as opposed to any other religion/culture, check out my channel. If you do, please READ WHAT I WRITE. That´s a big problem these days - people don´t listen, people don´t read, they distort and ignore. And I would suggest you check out the documentary "Islam - What the West Needs to Know", if you haven´t already.
Also, you mean to say you want to make laws that supress racism?
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
Nice :-)
NatashaWong92 11 months ago
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NatashaWong92 11 months ago
A well argued vid :-) See what you make of my video response (Moments of Islamophobia) which raises similar points...
mickmle1 11 months ago
You never gave a fair account. You have motives.
foreskinforest 1 year ago
People need to realize, there is only ONE world, and only ONE race. Why all the fuss even today about "MY" country? COUNTRY? An arbitrarily marked land mass on a much larger landmass on yet a much larger planet.... People need to start thinking what is best for HUMANS, not AMERICANS (or whatever nation you prefer) etc.
Azrhei 1 year ago
@Azrhei That's incorrect. Nationhood is marked by systems of law and government.
It is when people are all considered "the same", or in your terms, "HUMANS" that the most appalling crimes are committed. As "HUMANS" you suggest that what is best for you, is best for me...and that isn't neccasarily so. Crimes against minorities and individuals are perpetrated under the pretext that "it is for the good of humanity"...in essence, it is "might is right".
Stereolabdream 1 year ago
@Stereolabdream I would assume then that people of like mindedness are more likely to war or commit crimes against one another? That more wars and crimes are therefore committed not by people who have differences but because they have similarities? Now, I'm certain you'll think of something, but I can't personally think of one war or crime statistic that backs your claim. In fact, despite my limited knowledge of the subject, I would claim most wars have been caused by differences or greed.
Azrhei 11 months ago
@Azrhei Yes, Wars are caused by differences. That is regrettable. But equally, difference produces protest and debate and variety and free choice.
Your vision for "Humanity" finds its closest analogy, I think, in the Soviet Union under Stalin. There, free will and difference were subjegated to the will of the state and the individual. This was enforced by force, of course. The Soviet Union murdered as many of its own citizens in the name of "unity" as it lost fighting The Nazis...
Stereolabdream 11 months ago
@Stereolabdream I guess Secular Humanism if now debunked lol :) NIce try, I'll tell them to take down their site and close all their offices.
Azrhei 11 months ago
Well there's lots of evidence that muslim immigration results in carnage, as I'm sure DPRJones is well aware.
YodatheJedi12 1 year ago
labaelling willett as a racist bigot is, in itself, bigoted.
ezmereldagreen 1 year ago
Im reaching a point where i no longer want to hear any more points on utube,its always one extreme or another never a middle way,each trying to censor each others freedom of speech,each throwing vile insults,the BNP saying deport and liberals like coughlan saying your bigoted and evil for being worried about mass immigration,i despise you all.
Whatever4690 1 year ago
As usual dpr very well written and portrayed...Always good to see someone trying to counter some of the crap videos out there, well done!
athosmusketeer 1 year ago
LOL@ Promiscuity being regarded as a bad thing. Willett is such a prude.
chazmeistro 1 year ago
Hey DPR Jones I like hou you used "Journey to the Line" from The Thin Red Line in the background when Enoch is talking at about 1:40 I love that Soundtrack!
3mate1 1 year ago
Great video as usual.
All that has been fought for in so many wars to maintain the freedoms which we now take for granted are slowly but surely being eradicated.
2050 or sooner is when in the UK there will be more muslims than christians/atheists and this really concerns me.
The impact that this will have on this once great nation of ours will be irreversible.
It sickens me to the core that so many brave men and women gave their lives just to let us be overwhelmed.
Equal rights,for whom I ask.
naybobdenod 1 year ago 2
@naybobdenod I wouldn't worry about it, 2012 is coming up fast and we'll have more pressing things to worry about. :)
gozzawick 1 year ago
Special dangers? Importing individuals with a contagious and harmful disease would be dangerous and irresponsible.
Explain to me how Islam (or any other eligion for that matter, but Islam especially) is not harmful or contagious.
NichtDieseTone 1 year ago 2
does 7/7 count as a "special danger"?
just a thought
tonybuk70 1 year ago
What impact have we had on them? I don't know the answer to that. I would appreciate your view because you are very articulate (DPR Jones)
corksmusic1 1 year ago
So one can be a non-racist, but still be seen as making racists remarkes by public opinion. Well DPR, I think this precisly the point Martin is raising here. Either one sees the problems with immigration or one doesn't. But the difference is only lack of knowledge either way, not racism itself !
MexxPowers 1 year ago
I bet that you can't resist visiting my channel ;-p
NatashaWong92 1 year ago
I have to say it dpr because it doesn't get said. To me you are the most evil human being who has ever lived!
TheMontalable 1 year ago
Interresting video. I agree with your conclusion. He needs to be less vague in his assertions.
G0lfYankee 1 year ago
There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep your heritage and cultural identity alive. But the thing is now that it's incredibly easy to travel to most parts of the world, compared to say 700 years ago for example, people of any nation are going to do so because they want to. I hope people realize that taking constructively positive initiatives to keep one's heritage alive and not changing the laws and focusing more on one's country's history, doesn't mean your country is being racist.
berner 1 year ago
i pesonaly dont care about race if 99% of british people are black or asian in 50 years i dont care that is merely an asthetic choice, however islam is poison to the minds of all humankind and must be destroyed
1qaz6yhn5tgb 1 year ago 11
Brown shirt or Black?
GreatGungHolio 1 year ago
I bet that you can't resist visiting my channel ;-p
NatashaWong92 1 year ago
Excellent video.
ultimateinfinite 1 year ago
Nice work, Mr Jones. This brings back a lot of memories, growing up in the UK in late sixties and early seventies. I'd almost forgotten about that deep embittered irrational racism that was almost like a hobby for so many people.
Jumpers for goalposts etc
geffel 1 year ago
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I wish I knew anything about British politics
ctastrophe 1 year ago
Good video. Learnt a bit more about Powell here! Good job. Who exactly IS MartinJWillet?
CharmingLordSausage 1 year ago
Enoch Powell makes me think of Andrew Ryan.
kamijk 1 year ago
I'm a bit confused by this video. I understand the gist of it, but is DPR saying that muslim immigration is not a huge problem in the UK? The government does a terrible job at assimilating those muslims.
d3st88 1 year ago 2
Tony Benn sighted!!!
PrydainFawr 1 year ago
The decline and fall of secular democracy is at hand. Secularists lack even the energy to reproduce. They have given up....but expect a glorious future into their laps. Well it is their 'right' after all. CATHOLIC STATE for the return folks......before the West goes to its grave.
amaqula 1 year ago
I bet that you can't resist visiting my channel ;-p
NatashaWong92 1 year ago
@NatashaWong92 You lost that one
middlebit 1 year ago
dpr, it took guts to post this - even for you.
ReeallityBytes 1 year ago
"perhaps innacurately"... hahahaha
dannybambino 1 year ago
How the hell does Willet justify placing promiscuity in the same sentence as rape and theft?
TheCanadianDude 1 year ago
I first subscribed to Willett's channel because he was one of the few YouTubers who was willing to tackle the monarchy and defend the republican cause. But now all his videos seem to be "lefties this" and "lefties that". I no longer have any time for the man.
TheCrownBuster 1 year ago
"if they're being allowed to form communities, how can integration take place?"
sound familiar?
kingOFtheFISHpeople 1 year ago
Well, I guess everywhere is fucked up.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
@ 13:00-
What's so bad about promiscuity? Why does this guy group it in with racism and rape? Sex is magnificent- it is what we humans do.
Why is it that some of the most vocal opponents of this religious trash espouse views that would make them right at home in the very theocracies they deem to oppose?
TinyCoconut 1 year ago
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You don't know the special dangers of Islamic Immigration? How about the muslim ghettos of france, how about the home grown terrorism, how about the two-faced insiders working for terrorist organizations? How about the guys who are supposed to be deported for terrorist ties but stay here with 12 kids, living off their well-fare. These are all one google search away and their real, are you trying to say they are NOT special dangers to islamic immigration?
simsimaz2 1 year ago
You don't know the special dangers of Islamic Immigration? How about the muslim ghettos of france, how about the home grown terrorism, how about the two-faced insiders working for terrorist organizations? How about the guys who are supposed to be deported for terrorist ties but stay here with 12 kids, living off their well-fare. These are all one google search away and their real, are you trying to say they are NOT special dangers to islamic immigration?
simsimaz2 1 year ago
DPR - I suggest you read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book "Infidel".
I think MartinJWillett is alluding to some concepts explained very well in this book. in short, Islam cannot integrate with western society because some of the central pillars of our society, namely freedom of speech and equality of the sexes are the antithesis of Islam. Muslims moving into Europe will not integrate - they CANNOT, without giving up Allah and Islam. THAT is the problem (as i see it anyway)
ThePassiveFist 1 year ago
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@ThePassiveFist DPR already knows about Islamism. As he stated in this video; he opposes the Sharia. This video was about MartinJWillett using Enoch Powells' Rivers of Blood speech; a speech about race - not a religious doctrine.
J2897Tutorials 1 year ago
Well done. I would say he sounds like a British Glenn Beck but I'm sure that's been mentioned.
TheCurmudgen 1 year ago
You really should post a warning before you show a clip of the Iron Bitch.
F3YR3 1 year ago
DPR back to his very best.
It's been too long since we've seen a video like this from you DPR. I find your Political responses much more engaging than your Scientific ones.
cartbeforehorse 1 year ago
anyone who opposes the internationalist multicultural enforced norm gets called a bigot by default, it's the clear and easy tactic of the social progressive to demonetize and non inclusive view no matter what the reason.
some of us do-not-agree.
Curas1 1 year ago
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@Curas1 just because you do not agree does not mean it isn't true. if you think that black people, or muslims do not deserve equal rights, especially sharia courts, than you are a bigot. plain and simple. it is not just restricted to white people, though. if you think white people don't deserve rights, or should be allowed to go to certain areas or do certain things, you are a bigot.
MobileThinker 1 year ago
@MobileThinker - Muslims deserve equal rights. Sharia courts are -not- equal rights. Those are "special privileges," just like the "rights" afforded church organizations in the United States, such as non-taxable, non-prophet, unaccountability and able to discriminate for things no other organization can discriminate for {like race, creed, color, religion, sexual orientation, etcetera}. These things should not be allowed in any civilization. "When in Rome, do what the Romans do."
LeksServices 1 year ago
@LeksServices do you understand the concept of a club? a club has the right to discriminate for any reason, they can say you can't join because of skin color, or sexual preference. a church is a club, sharia courts are clubs, jewish courts are clubs. get over the idea that muslims are bad but jews aren't, they are equal.
MobileThinker 11 months ago 6
@MobileThinker
They're equally poor in that they're clubs of idiots. However the clubs do vary in the rules their particular imaginary friend set up. And some are more draconian than others.
If we had a scale of -100 to 100 with 0 being neutral and 100 being reasonable and -100 being unreasonable, all of these religions clearly would be below -100. probably around -2000 or so for european based christians and -20000 for middle-east muslims.
It's all a pile of dung though.
CrimsonRefractions 9 months ago
@CrimsonRefractions you know, i see them as equals, both being -20000, mainly because i don't let the few bullshit lines about loving you neighbor and turning the other cheek from the bible color my view of the religion as a whole. any religion that supports even a quarter of the evils that the Abrahamic religions do is at the very least a -1000...
MobileThinker 9 months ago
@MobileThinker
Still, one can escape from one delusion easier than one can escape from the other, as such I would rate them slightly different.
But yes, it's all the same type of delusion, and it all needs to go. Perhaps psychologists can have a role here, after all they once thought homosexuality was a disorder. Now there actually is a disorder that is widespread and curable, but they remain silent.
CrimsonRefractions 9 months ago
@CrimsonRefractions i will grant you that some delusions are easier to break. also, neuroscience has taken a large leap in the whole, "is religion a brain disorder" thing. i know that with higher dopamine levels you are more likely to accept religious claims, just like you are more likely to see patterns that aren't really there. from what i understand religion may in fact be directly related to brain chemistry, which means we can "cure" it.
MobileThinker 9 months ago
@MobileThinker
Just like pumping blood is what the heart does, you are what your brain does. So naturally anything you are has a representation of sorts in your brain. Just like altering the representations in the brain has an effect on what it does: you. It's one and the same.
While certain predispositions may make individuals vulnerable to delusions, I doubt it's something a simple education won't cure. And 'curing' these predispositions won't take away the learned delusions either.
CrimsonRefractions 9 months ago
@MobileThinker
The only answer probably still is a good education.
CrimsonRefractions 9 months ago
If Willett and others remain infuriatingly vague, of course I'll call them bigots because it eventually becomes obvious. Futhermore, as multiculturalism is repeatedly criticised, and no alternative or solution is offered in its stead, of course I'm going to think you believe in forced repatriation.
niriop 1 year ago
@niriop
The solution is a largely "mono cultural" and less diversity including racial. The largest sample size done on multiculturalism by the left of center Professor Robert Putnam shows that the more diversity in a community the more distrust between and within groups there is. People are more isolated and less willing to work on community projects and have a welfare state. Race is a giant biological and sociological factor, more than class and more than gender.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy Oh for fuck's sake not you. The anarchist who wants government protection from brown people.
"The solution is a largely "mono cultural" and less diversity including racial." So you do favour forced repatriation? "People are more isolated and less willing to work on community projects and have a welfare state." I thought you hated the welfare state? "Race is a giant biological and sociological factor, more than class and more than gender." It's a social construct.
niriop 1 year ago
@niriop No, I don't mind certain forms of welfare depending on what their costs and benefits are. I am not an anarchist. No, it is not a "social construct" (which is just a phrase thrown around by people who haven't looked at what is being talked about). The Race IQ differences are there, there are different diseases different races are more likely to get, a majority of Biological/Physical Anthropologists believe in race, and more.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy Looking at your channel at this point, my my, you've completely gone off the fucking wagon and embraced the National Propertarian standard.
"The Race IQ differences are there" Educated to the same standards, no definite difference has ever been seen, ever.
"No, it is not a "social construct"" "Biological/Physical Anthropologists believe in race" I knew there was a reason why I favourited this: watch?v=ibYZHxKYFw0
Quit relying on Mankind Quarterly would you please?
niriop 1 year ago
@niriop
Yeah I have seen that report. There different ideas as to how to classify race. Some of the old classifications weren't the best. Google PBS A proponent's perspective George W. Gill Does Race Exist. I don't use Mankind Quarterly. Yes, even controls for parenting, socio-economic status, etc the difference is still there and has been noted for awhile. For Race IQ google The Medical News, Race differences in average IQ are largely genetic.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@niriop - While I agree there is a difference in IQ between different "races" and cultures, I would argue this is primarily due to the willingness of those "races" and cultures to discipline and educate members of their community. Some communities focus more on discipline and less on education {fundamentalist dogmatists}, and those tend to be the most uninformed. This is why we need to force everyone to conform to secular rules and accept secular education.
LeksServices 1 year ago
@niriop - Some groups of people who have certain physically distinctive characteristics are, in fact, prone to certain illnesses while others are not. A small percentage of Europeans are immune to HIV, for example, while some Africans are immune to malaria. The percentage of Europeans that would be immune to HIV could arguably have been higher in the past, but the trait's been thinned by immigration. There is apparently a new group of Africans also immune to HIV due to high infection rates.
LeksServices 1 year ago
This guy sounds like a real piece of work. Not only does he push the fear-mongering, anti-Muslim agenda, but he ironically blocks and deletes comments on his videos and profile. Isn't one of the very reasons he's afraid of Islam is because it's a threat to freedom of speech and expression? Wow, the irony...
TheAtheistAllegiance 1 year ago
@TheAtheistAllegiance
40% of British Muslims want Sharia law
32% of British Muslims believe it is their duty to destroy the morally corrupt West
81% of British Muslims say they are Muslim first and British second
There are no go areas in Britain for whites and non Muslim people.
A Gallup poll shows that the more educated and wealthy a Muslim is, the more likely they are to be radical
How are Muslims a benefit to Britain?
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy Not so sure about this representation, especially the first stat. Have a look at watch?v=5s3sCMD5Wg4 for a detailed run down of statistics on radical Islamic Students and non radicals.
NoFaithNoPain 1 year ago
@NoFaithNoPain
Ha yeah I saw that video. I commented I think on the second or third page. Thanks for the link though. It is a great study.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy I would also rethink "How are Muslims a benefit to Britain". There are some very wealthy altruistic Muslims around including the ones on the "good " side of your statistics. Perhaps better to word it "of what benefit is Islam to Britain?" On that I would agree and throw all the rest including Jehovas Witneses, scientologists and C of E to boot.
NoFaithNoPain 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy
Right, and 25% of American Republicans think that Obama might be the anti-Christ, while even more believe that he was born in Kenya.
People have all sorts of radical views, but that doesn't serve as a legitimate reason to kick them out of the country. Hell, you're just as bad as they are -- you both advocate the removal of each other. The only way to truly defeat the Sharia movement is to rise above it and use information as your weapon -- not deportation.
TheAtheistAllegiance 1 year ago
@TheAtheistAllegiance
Believing Obama is the anti Christ is as bad as wanting Shariah law or a third thinking Muslims should bring down Western society? Also, Christian fundamentalism is on the decline in the US and Western Europe. I think in 2040 something the projection is around 4% of the population will be "Christian fundamentalist". Will Islam it is reverse. The most radical or the second and third generation and it is radicalizing. They are not the same in trend or in proportion.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
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IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
cont.....in every sense of the word. The fact that he was a qualified academic does nothing to mitigate the deliberate and vile wording used in the speech, and if he is as intelligent as you say, he must have well known the effect the speech would have, and thus endorsed such an outcome. That he was a gentlemanly old Tory boy does nothing to alter the fact that he was as damaging to the fabric of British society then as Nick Griffin and the EDL are today.
sosolidshoe2 1 year ago
Well, that's a shame, I quite enjoyed watching your videos dprjones, that will not continue. To support, indeed by your own admission admire a vile, ignorant, bigoted bastard like Powell does massive damage to your credibility. The idea that a man who would deliberately incite people against immigrants, as much on the basis of their skin colour as their being foreign, is not a racist, and that he did not inspire and embolden racism, is completely untenable.......
sosolidshoe2 1 year ago
@sosolidshoe2 Oh, please. Skin colour? Give it a rest, man.
FaganRoberts 1 year ago
whats with the sublimal message of a couple of black guys at 10:18 ??!
Jtking3000 1 year ago
Ok, you're against Sharia law having any enforceability in the UK... what about Halakha Law? I believe that already has an amount of enforceability in UK law (where it does not explicitly contradict UK law). And as a lawyer, I'm sure you're already aware of the Courts of Equity, which used Christian ideals and laws as an alternative to Courts of Law, or at least, were staffed by Christian authorities. Objection to Sharia law where it violates secular law is good, outright objection is wrong.
puellanivis 1 year ago
@puellanivis - I have no problems with a culture honoring it's own subset of rules where they do not contradict the secular law of the land. However, if a Sharia court in the UK decided to stone a woman to death for being raped, I'm absolutely certain that, with your belief that they should live according to their own rules, this is a perfectly acceptable outcome and the woman should, in fact, be stoned to death.
LeksServices 1 year ago
@LeksServices Um... where did you get that I'm down with stoning from "where it does not explicitly contradict [secular] law?"
Halakha law holds that murders should be executed, and that gays should be executed as well, however none of the modern first world states hold that to be allowable. Yet no one is freaking out about people practicing and including Halakha law in their own private contracts to the extent that it does not violate secular law.
TRY AND READ NEXT TIME... sheesh
puellanivis 1 year ago
@puellanivis - From where I stand, stoning a woman who had been raped should be grounds to arrest all parties involved for conspiracy to commit murder and, if they were successful, the murder in the first degree.
LeksServices 1 year ago
@LeksServices Absolutely, everything you say here is correct. But "If Person X does Y, then execute them" is not the entirety of Sharia law. Banning Sharia law outright just because it has a few execute-people-for-trivial-things is just as preposterous as banning Halakha law outright just because it has a few execute-people-for-trivial-things"... like dishonoring your mother and father earns the death penalty under Halakha law, too. Meanwhile, I only hear about objections to Sharia not Halakha.
puellanivis 1 year ago
I bet that you can't resist visiting my channel ;-p
NatashaWong92 1 year ago
Great video mate!!
gingergreek 1 year ago
Hey fagot why are u such a gay fagot? Fagot.
gbgk420 1 year ago
Hey DPR, I largely agree with your points, but I recently saw a Dispatches report called "Britain's Islamic Republic" which scared the bejesus out of me....and I don't even live in Britain!
I'm very much interested on hearing your thoughts on it.
Thanks :)
simsi1616 1 year ago
brilliant vid. Watching the documentary that you included in your vid just shows how nothing changes in the bigoted minds of those filled with fear and ignorance. All the same grievances those people had when black people emigrated into Britain proved a load of horseshit. Now it's the muslims turn and still the same horseshit being spouted. No they are not taking over. Yes they most integrate and will continue to do so contributing to the British whole. What is the fucking problem?
thebighead01 1 year ago
@thebighead01
They have not integrated. As a whole they are at the bottom of the economic ladder and like the US, Australia, and elsewhere are vastly disproportionally represented in violent crime. They are not as diverse in their political voting either, almost completely favoring labor. Muslims are an even worse case. Have you looked at some of the stats or some of their positions?
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy 1st off the Enoch Powell speech was commenting on British immigration, so don't confuse what he said, and what I'm about to say with the US, because both have very different cultures in relation to race relations and immigration. What I said was that the fears espoused about the immigration of Black people from West Africa and the West Indies in particular have proven to be over blown and false.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy At one point during the speech Powell said the white man would be become the minority to the black man. This was not the case. You know how much of the population they make up? 2%. Yep that's it. This flood of black people taking over our country makes up just 2%. That number was taken from the Census taken in 2001.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy It might have gone up since then, but I doubt that considering in the space of about 30 years since that speech the "influx" of Black people only contributed to 2% of the population is really that much of a big deal. Now in terms of integration, culturally the influences of West Indians and Africans have been absorbed into the British culture where now it has become one.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy Cusine, art, etc amongst others have been influenced because of this. Reggae is a good example of this. You should look it up.In terms of crime yes Black people do represent a disproportional amount of the prison population in comparison to the overall population.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy However, this can be attributed to so many different influences such as socio-economic background, social attitudes of politicians, police officers, the lower economic class, etc, which are far to numerous to go into here. And if most vote towards the left so what? Maybe you guys on the right aren't making a very good case for them to vote that way.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy And in terms of economic or political contributions instead I'll turn to you. Who is currently the most powerful man in the world? At any rate what you, and people like you don't seem to realise is that nations are not static. They are always in flux. What I mean by this is that they are constantly changing and evolving. The composition of its people can change almost entirely. Social attitudes, customs, patterns all change.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy what my country was and what your country was 100 years ago isn't what it is now, nor will it be in 100 years time. Nations change and evolve, and you're just going to get left behind.
thebighead01 1 year ago
@thebighead01
Well I am aware of some of what Powell said is false. As you can see I am not saying my positions are the same as his though we share a decent amount. One can have different music and food without having to import massive amounts of the third world immigrants, many of which don't cook for the host population. If one controls for employment, income, and education blacks still commit much higher violent crime. The largest indicator if an area has violent crime is race, not incom
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
Obama himself is half and half roughly. His political and economic contributions have not been that great or original. I would never deny nations change and evolve. However, they do not and will not change the same way if the UK's English, Scotish, Welsh, and Irish population becomes a minority as they are predicated to in 2100. The standard leftist line back to the Marxist was to say that economic determinism would come and no one could stop it.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
All conservatives were reactionaries and communism would one day come. They turned out to be wrong. They are trying to do the same with cultural communism or cultural equality, saying it is the future and can't be stopped. It can be stopped and should be. The studies (Robert Putnam who did the largest sample size) on mulitculturalism and diversity show it is a net weakness economically and socially.
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
@IndividualAutonomy well in your case you kind of dragged Africans over to America. So they're not immigrants. And what the hell do you mean that many don't cook for the host population? You lost me on that one. And no, one of the biggest factors in crime is socio-economic background. Most crimes are economically based (e.g. theft).
thebighead01 1 year ago
@thebighead01
Sure many (not all) of them are not immigrants but it doesn't chance the weakness. The vast majority of immigrants don't as a job or hobby cook or sing for the host population. You didn't need mass importation of the third world to have any of that. You can buy the recipe, import specialized chiefs, and import albums/give visas to bands. The biggest indicator of violence crime is race at .81 , not poverty, education level, or employment. I'll send you the link that controls
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
*change
IndividualAutonomy 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. I had never heard of this man till now. Thanks for educated me once again. This is truly what youtube is meant for.
wrekk 1 year ago
2:56. No it did not deal with the issues of immigration, it dealt with the issues of mass immigration
memrjohnno 1 year ago
@memrjohnno 4:33 as a ref
memrjohnno 1 year ago
@memrjohnno This is the only video you have made which I consider poor
memrjohnno 1 year ago
Coughlan616 = hyperbolic uber-troll.
I usually like your output, but referencing this mind turd in your description is making me consider if being subbed to you is worthwhile. Martin's right in his evaluation of Richard, and so was thunderf00t.
mystereed72 1 year ago
If you think the guys like Willett are bad, you should come vacation in Alabama.
quinndiesel1977 1 year ago
"I don't do the citation required thing" - hence his lingering stupidity. I've learned more when researching things - ONLY so I don't look stupid on the internet - than I did in 12+ years of schooling.
FeministWhore 1 year ago 3
@dprjones. A lot of this video is just you either agreeing with Willet or asking him to clarify what he's saying. Also, I think you and Willet are overlooking a big difference between what Powell was talking about in his Rivers of Blood speech and current events. Blacks/Africans are a race and Islam is not. Blacks/Africans didn't have an agenda as a group, but Muslims do have an agenda. Maybe I'm just tired writing this comment at around midnight, but I don't see the point of this video.
MarlinBeta 1 year ago
@MarlinBeta Oh yes, Muslims have an agenda.... I guess I will have to ask around in a Mosque to see what it is... Though I doubt I would earn anything but baffled looks, when I ask the question.
"You are a Muslim. So tell me, what is your agenda?"
Wollff85 1 year ago
@Wollff85 Why pinky, its the same as it always is... to take over the WORLD!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha
NoFaithNoPain 1 year ago
@NoFaithNoPain Now if there only were an episode where they try to do it by posing as the 13th Imam...
Wollff85 1 year ago
@Wollff85 *sigh* I really shouldn't have to say this... Yes, not all Muslims have the overarching goal of displacing western culture (many prefer the freedoms of western culture). But the very vocal Muslims who want Sharia law for everyone and already practice Sharia within their little shut-in communities in place of the laws of whatever country they are living in are very dangerous. Especially when they hijack the western value buzzword of tolerance for their own nasty purposes.
MarlinBeta 1 year ago
@MarlinBeta
I'd argue that they are laughably harmless.
You're still much, much, much more likely to die (say) in traffic than from a terrorist attack.
Muslim extremists are sexist and oppressive, as are Christian extremists, and Christian extremists outnumber their Muslim counterparts. Muslims are not nearly as violent as white supremacists.
What perverted practices they do have will die out in time, the best way to deal with the problem is through open debate and understanding, not ostracism.
F3YR3 1 year ago
@MarlinBeta Okay, so we have advanced from "Muslims have an agenda", to "some vocal Muslims are dangerous". Just to clarify: Are they more or less dangerous than the Jews practicing Halakha in their little shut in communities?
I do not understand: What exactly is the danger?
Wollff85 1 year ago
@Wollff85 I know this is a flawed point, or that someone will find fault with it, but when was the last time you heard of a jewish terrorist? Because of the association of radical Islam with terrorists or acts of terrorism, people are usually untrusting of the tight-knit communities Muslims form. It is likely born of fear of ostricisation, but ultimately ends up compounding the suspicion that they are hiding something, or that they simply do not like non-Muslims. It would seem that way, at least
Kainlarsen 1 year ago
@Kainlarsen I'll leave the Israel bashing, that inevitably comes with the mention of the words "Jewish terrorist", to others ;)
You are right: This is probably the reason why people feel so threatened by Muslim communities.
But it says nothing about whether they really are any more dangerous than other religious groups.
Wollff85 1 year ago
@Wollff85 True, but association is a powerful thing. And the media is largely responsible for building this climate of fear, the very thing that terrorism seems intended to create. (Interesting thought... who exactly are the terrorists here?:D)
I fear modern media has channelled us down this route of 'selective awareness', for want of a better term. We are shown only fragments of what is going on, those parts that will provoke negativity, and they collective industry laps it up.
Kainlarsen 1 year ago
@Wollff85 I'm not very familiar with Halakha. But after reading a little, it seems much less contrary to secular law to me than Sharia. The real thing I have a problem with is when any group tries to subvert the laws the rest of a population are bound to by claiming some kind of special privilege. Harmless traditions such as food rules and when they celebrate holidays are fine, but when religious law contradicts secular law, then there are problems and that's Sharia for you.
MarlinBeta 1 year ago
What kind of a name is ENOCH anyway... did he have his balls cut off when he was very young?
(Joke.. please don't block me)
Fyapowar 1 year ago
0:56
Mr. Rape Face!
Go on....look at it! You can just imagine him saying "Ohhh, but you WILL, my Pet....you will."
LordCustos3 1 year ago
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LordCustos3 1 year ago
Interesting video.
Bhurzum 1 year ago
It was this BS video that mad me unsubscribe to Martin J Willet. As libertarian, I may agree with some of his freed market, small government stances, I abhor racists and ignorant collectivists who ascribe traits and actions to people based on skin colour. Or religious affiliation.
johnycannuk 1 year ago
Willet is an attention whore. He'll defend Enoch Powell, or claim it is okay to say "Rape victims were asking for it" just so that everyone will notice him.
Making video responses to his attention whoring gives him exactly what he wants. The only way to shut up the troll is to stop feeding it.
TheRationalizer 1 year ago
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TheRationalizer 1 year ago
Have you noticed that few commenters care about Enoch Powel, this video, or the point behind the video (That Willett did not make fully clear his position, but left it for the viewer to infer)? All people care about is Islam. They don't care about Seiksm Hindus, Afro Carribeans. Just Islam. Everything else they can tolerate. Without Islam there would be no EDL and the BNP would be totally forgotten. This is Intereting. WHY!
NoFaithNoPain 1 year ago
@NoFaithNoPain
The BNP & EDL still hate a lot of people other than muslims, but Islam is the easiest scapegoat that most people are scared of. If they shout about the evils of the Polish and they'll get scattered support, but pointing at Islam will get more support, even from some who would normally be more thoughtful about the rhetoric they hear.
My first thought about the Polish is my workmates. My first thought about Islam is the WTC attack & burkas.
It's all about winning the audience over.
athywren 1 year ago
DprJones welcome back. I have waiting for this for so long. Good Vid, but on Race considering how much GB got 'dat' on the blood and sweat of other races, it is rather well... poetic that the other races... came to their doors.
Sunhawk7ajj 1 year ago
I asked Martin J willett for his vies on censorship. his reply...
"TheTomtompiper I do not approve of efforts to stop people expressing particular views anywhere being denied a platform, shouted down or harassed until they shut up"
He then added .
"On YouTube I think a person has an absolute right to block anybody they don't want to debate with and remove any posts on pages they control. "
A Dictionary definition of hypocrisy.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
@TheTomtompiper I disagree. It's not censorship to block unwelcome visitors from your channel any more than it's despotism to kick an unwelcome guest out of your own house. The censorship comes in trying to prevent people from expressing their views anywhere else on YT.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Then you are missing the whole point of having the comments section, when a person puts a video on to You Tube they are expressing an opinion or making a statement. To then only accept views that agree with you on the comments section is to give a false impression of what people think of that opinion or statement, it is an attempt at deception and is dishonest. You Tube is a public place, not your own home or your personal space, it is the town square not your living room.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
@TheTomtompiper "You Tube is a public place,"
YouTube is. One's personal channel is not.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Your Channel page is used to advertises your "Wares" it is far form being private. If you make a Video available to all to watch it is in the public domain and is in no way private. Consider the Channel page the shop window, and You Tube as a whole as the public square, blocking people on comments is like sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagree with you. As to what constitutes vile language, I would think that is up to the individual.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
@TheTomtompiper "Your Channel page is used to advertises your "Wares" it is far form being private."
If that's what you want to use it for.
"If you make a Video available to all to watch it is in the public domain and is in no way private."
If, on the other hand, one blocks someone from watching it, then the video in question is hardly available to "all," now is it?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
"Consider the Channel page the shop window, and You Tube as a whole as the public square, blocking people on comments is like sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagree with you."
My living room is not part of the town square. Kicking someone out of my home or blocking someone from my channel who has worn out his welcome is hardly akin to blocking him or her from all of YT.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
"As to what constitutes vile language, I would think that is up to the individual."
I see. So if I decide that what someone else has been saying constitutes "vile language," that means I get to block him or her and this doesn't amount to "sending the riot police into the Town square to rid it of the scum who disagrees with me?"
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 You can't block someone from watching, only form commenting, you are just wrong in this instance, if you don't want people to comment, turn off all comments or don't post the video. if you keep the comments on and block people who disagree with you, that is censorship and deceitful.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 So I would agree about blocking abusive people, those making threats and using vile language to shock, but that is it, all other opinions on a video comment should be allowed and not censored. If you want to have a private Video, you have that option, if you make it public then it is your responsibility to allow fair comment, to avoid doing so is cowardly and again deceitful. I note Willetts has now made his videos private.
TheTomtompiper 1 year ago
@TheTomtompiper Who gets to decide what constitutes vile language?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
humans are stupid .... seriously its like we cant help but not follow someone even when he jumps off a cliff ...
Akirilus 1 year ago
@drp jones
What is your point exactly? I can't imagine you're responding to every upload. What exactly is it that set you off in this one? There are many who have reasoned why Islam is a particularly vile religion. Harris and Dawkins to name but two. You don't have to agree, but to make it an explicit point that MartinJWillet doesn't elaborate on this point seems petty. Just assume he agrees with them. That's an assumption, I agree, but not an unreasonable one. Not one that merits a response.
reb3331 1 year ago
Same tune, different country. Fear of change, fear of difference, using a great orator's words to further your own cause...sounds almost precisely like the United States' immigration issues, except ours is more Mexican than Muslim, and the anti-immigrants don't have an Enoch Powell to draw on; they have to rely on Newt Gingrich, basically, if they can rely on anyone at all.
IlGreven 1 year ago
I wonder if Enoch ever felt inclined to build an under water city..
sepiritz 1 year ago
@sepiritz
He'd name it Communion or Euphoria to avoid copyright infringement.
Idoloish 1 year ago
Can't blame the guy - racism was pretty much a default aspect of a "civilized worldview" back then. This guy actually comes across as mild.
There is nothing wrong with ethnic diversity - if anything, it should be welcomed as a more healthy change. But isolationism of ethnic and religious communities (Muslims, Orthodox Jews etc.) contributes to social tension.
As a result, their children are brought up not sharing the values of the society they are currently living in. This doesn't help at all.
QuestForTheGrail 1 year ago
No Powell was just a xenophobe as is Willett.
mjh012363 1 year ago
As serious as the issues raised in this video are, I'm still trying to come to grips with Enoch Powell's moustache. I mean, look at that thing.
Feasco 1 year ago
Immigration does seem to be one of the major issues faced by many countries in these times. It is a delicate issue where facts tend to be mixed with percieved stereotypes which then results in false accusations of racism.
One quote in the video i do agree with is that intergration is almost impossible as they do and would much rather setup communties rather than intergrate. Obviously facts like this can never represent all minorities , but i do feel it represent a large proportion.
KillKrazy666 1 year ago
such a lovely accent the british give their minorities
mboundtogether 1 year ago
The best comment I have on my channel is that cock Willet thanking me for unsubscribing from him 8 months ago.