if only he had thought of a better way to get the journal instead of sustaining an injury at that wine cellar or wherever it was where he got a hook through his shoulder.
maybe then he would've won this fight without... the end... result O_o
I honestly didn't expect it to end this way. I was more or less suspecting that Holmes and Watson would foil Moriarty's plan, but Moriarty would use the excitement as a distraction to make his getaway and that would leave it open for another movie.
@animelover5076 Robert's not in the 2010 version; some other guy. and the plot in the story has something to do with a guy in some mechanical suit thing who can conjure monsters: dinosaurs, octopus type things like a kraken, and dragons.
i didn't pay that much attention to it, but look it up. and add 2010 into your search so you don't get it mixed up with the 2009 or this version.
Both styles have their merits , a good boxer is a force to be reckoned with ( I practice kung fu myself and my brother mainly focuses on boxing) A boxer has a much bigger tolerance for pain and damage than most styles (they're trained to catch blows) And their trained simple basic style is a big advantage over a more complex style. With a more complex style you can do more unpredictable thing (which is the advantage) but you also have more movements which means more opening for your adversary
@krojasveliz Yes, but Holmes should have consider, first off, his injury. He could not and should not have consider any hard power shots on the Prof. Bil Gee to his eyes should have been his 1st choice.
@spadaydaga Well, his injury probably have limited his attack option. Defending against the incoming assault from an experienced boxer and counterattack in the same time using only one fully functional hand is not very easy.
Unless he use a kick in the groin. Which I doubt that Prof won't see it coming at all..
Just going to add to the discussion; had Moriarty seen Watson... his intellect would have likely calculated a failure in fighting. He probably would have tried to leave without violence and prepare another attack. If the couple did not allow it, the Moriarty would have been defeated.
@ReaverThe Almost definitely: Moriarty's only advantage was the injury, by hitting it early in the fight he severely weakens Holmes. Also while Moriarty is skilled and experienced, he's only a boxer as opposed to Holmes who uses an unpredictable mish-mash of wing chun and zui quan (which I think is supposed to be the madeup "baritsu" from the books).
@MrEventide I suppose so, but we've seen enemies that Sherlock has had trouble with, like the assassin and the martial artist from the end of the first movie.
@ReaverThe You're absolutely right and that, I suppose, is the fatal flaw of Sherlock's eclectic fighting style: it relies solely on deduction and hypothesis. In other words, while Holmes can readily kick the ass of someone who only knows the art of boxing (which is simplistic and the moves of which can be predicted), he'll have far more trouble with somone who has fully mastered the offence and defence of a more complex martial art like the Cossack and the Chinese guy.
@ReaverThe I doubt it, WHat people forget is that, like Sherlock, Moriarty could predict the next moves and attack or defend justly and Wtason can't (or atleast i think he can't) so if watson tried to attack Moriarty, he probably would have gotten his butt handed to himand he may get in the way of holmes
@Zojen32 Watson was a genius in his own right, so he may or may not have had that exact ability to predict, but the main advantage was with a sudden appearance like that, Holmes would know him well enough to use Watson's moves to his advantage while Moriarty's deductions on the fight would've been thrown out the window. I'd say the chances are that Moriarty would have lost against the two of them working together.
@MrEventide I wouldn't say that's completely true. The fights that have given him trouble were the ones when he did not have those few precious seconds to fully deduce and predict his opponent, or when something outside the fight intereferes with the 'plan', so to speak(such as the fortune teller throwing knives at the Cossack). Also, baritsu was style developed as a means for 'gentlemen' to defend themselves, and it's more suited around using objects to gain an advantage(watches, canes, coats)
@ReaverThe of course if you can see moriarty was targetting mostly to his injury to make serious damage. without it sh would have no need to block that part of the body making it 50% more effective.
First, pillage the nest. Clip wings. Then, blunt his beak. Crack eggs, a pinch of salt, a touch of pepper...additional seasoning required. Breakfast is served.
Actually the best final battle scene in cinematic history! Now, all we need to do is get someone to make a GOOD Sherlock Holmes game (with the perfect and respectable balance of action, puzzle and mystery) and make the greatest final boss battle too. seriously, why has Holmes and Moriarty's battle NEVER been in a video game?
@Cheeseaddicteddaleks I kind of hope they don't, with a scene as well choereographed as this, it would inevitably be reduced to a tawdry quicktime event =(
i do love this film but i am Sherlocked by the BBC lol i like Benedict Cumberbatch alot better as Sherlock but i still love Robert as an actor.
animelover5076 2 weeks ago
oh hell! i read the final problem and y was like: naaaa i know what is going to happend and then i saw this part and it was like SHERLOCK NOOOOO!
rtyuiopghjk 2 weeks ago
At 1:23 , I always imagine Moriaty being a magician and Sherlock's hand being a dove!!! :P
tylerwozear 2 weeks ago
@cyborgninja100 Now if only I could find that specific fight somewhere here on YouTube. -_-
PianoDisneygal10 2 weeks ago
I love how Sherlock closed his eyes so the last thing he saw was Watson.
Wildave007 2 weeks ago 2
@Copperblu if so I need lessons on it
Dariusnify 2 weeks ago
epic battle!
Kamelog777 2 weeks ago
I wonder if people actually fight like this. I mean planning the whole fight out , predicting the targets attacks.
Cooperblu 3 weeks ago
cool vid man keep it up
TheDoeMan90 3 weeks ago
if only he had thought of a better way to get the journal instead of sustaining an injury at that wine cellar or wherever it was where he got a hook through his shoulder.
maybe then he would've won this fight without... the end... result O_o
seanw23 1 month ago
Ahhh.. there we find the boxing champion of Cambridge...
jessc1979 1 month ago
does anyone know what kind of pipe he has when he blows ashes in Moriartys face?
MDRstudi0s 1 month ago
I honestly didn't expect it to end this way. I was more or less suspecting that Holmes and Watson would foil Moriarty's plan, but Moriarty would use the excitement as a distraction to make his getaway and that would leave it open for another movie.
RexBlazer1 1 month ago
@RexBlazer1 I wouldn't mind another movie, but I wouldn't like another SAW syndrome.
TinyBitMouse01 1 month ago
@TinyBitMouse01, what do you mean by that?
RexBlazer1 1 month ago
@RexBlazer1 It's were the movies just keep going on, and on, and on, and on, you see where I'm going with this right?
TinyBitMouse01 1 month ago
@TinyBitMouse01 though Robert makes a much better Sherlock than the guy in the 2010 movie.
seanw23 1 month ago
@seanw23 huh? there Robert is Sherlock Holmes in the 2010 movie lol
animelover5076 2 weeks ago
@animelover5076 Robert's not in the 2010 version; some other guy. and the plot in the story has something to do with a guy in some mechanical suit thing who can conjure monsters: dinosaurs, octopus type things like a kraken, and dragons.
i didn't pay that much attention to it, but look it up. and add 2010 into your search so you don't get it mixed up with the 2009 or this version.
seanw23 2 weeks ago
@seanw23 oh i had never even heard of it, sounds a little odd tho lol i will look it up, thanx!
animelover5076 2 weeks ago
this was my fav scene from the whole movie
TheWolverineiscool 1 month ago 3
@TheWolverineiscool My fave scene is Watson bringing Holmes back to life. But this one is awesome too!
torchwoodhub1 1 month ago
@spadaydaga indeed
krojasveliz 1 month ago
Damn lot of typos hahaha :P
krojasveliz 1 month ago
Both styles have their merits , a good boxer is a force to be reckoned with ( I practice kung fu myself and my brother mainly focuses on boxing) A boxer has a much bigger tolerance for pain and damage than most styles (they're trained to catch blows) And their trained simple basic style is a big advantage over a more complex style. With a more complex style you can do more unpredictable thing (which is the advantage) but you also have more movements which means more opening for your adversary
krojasveliz 1 month ago
@krojasveliz Yes, but Holmes should have consider, first off, his injury. He could not and should not have consider any hard power shots on the Prof. Bil Gee to his eyes should have been his 1st choice.
spadaydaga 1 month ago
@spadaydaga Well, his injury probably have limited his attack option. Defending against the incoming assault from an experienced boxer and counterattack in the same time using only one fully functional hand is not very easy.
Unless he use a kick in the groin. Which I doubt that Prof won't see it coming at all..
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nOObR3dUct10n 1 month ago
i wonder how this can be topped if there is going to be a new movie...
wantonmee23 1 month ago
@wantonmee23 Fu Manchu. Just guessing but I think Sherlock's disguise at the beginning of this film kinda gives hints for the next one :))
Or maybe not. Who knows.
TheDechoi 1 month ago
Just going to add to the discussion; had Moriarty seen Watson... his intellect would have likely calculated a failure in fighting. He probably would have tried to leave without violence and prepare another attack. If the couple did not allow it, the Moriarty would have been defeated.
TheComedian95 1 month ago 3
Good thing he wasn't the diving champion of Cambridge.
nikothedog 1 month ago 43
@nikothedog THAT is funny. That made me laugh real hard and clap. Bravo. xD
MattyJPGreg 1 month ago
whats the song when moriaty pushed holmes off the balcony
andrewpark35 1 month ago
@andrewpark35 from the Sherlock Holmes 2 soundtrack - Moral Insanity
Curseco 1 month ago
I wonder if Holmes could have overpowered him without the injury
ReaverThe 1 month ago
@ReaverThe Almost definitely: Moriarty's only advantage was the injury, by hitting it early in the fight he severely weakens Holmes. Also while Moriarty is skilled and experienced, he's only a boxer as opposed to Holmes who uses an unpredictable mish-mash of wing chun and zui quan (which I think is supposed to be the madeup "baritsu" from the books).
MrEventide 1 month ago
@MrEventide I suppose so, but we've seen enemies that Sherlock has had trouble with, like the assassin and the martial artist from the end of the first movie.
ReaverThe 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ReaverThe You're absolutely right and that, I suppose, is the fatal flaw of Sherlock's eclectic fighting style: it relies solely on deduction and hypothesis. In other words, while Holmes can readily kick the ass of someone who only knows the art of boxing (which is simplistic and the moves of which can be predicted), he'll have far more trouble with somone who has fully mastered the offence and defence of a more complex martial art like the Cossack and the Chinese guy.
MrEventide 1 month ago
@MrEventide neither Sherlock nor Moriarty predicted that Watson would show up. you think the two of them could have taken Moriarty together?
ReaverThe 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@ReaverThe I doubt it, WHat people forget is that, like Sherlock, Moriarty could predict the next moves and attack or defend justly and Wtason can't (or atleast i think he can't) so if watson tried to attack Moriarty, he probably would have gotten his butt handed to himand he may get in the way of holmes
Zojen32 1 month ago
@Zojen32 Watson was a genius in his own right, so he may or may not have had that exact ability to predict, but the main advantage was with a sudden appearance like that, Holmes would know him well enough to use Watson's moves to his advantage while Moriarty's deductions on the fight would've been thrown out the window. I'd say the chances are that Moriarty would have lost against the two of them working together.
Jhertzog83 1 month ago
@Jhertzog83 good point
Zojen32 1 month ago
@MrEventide I wouldn't say that's completely true. The fights that have given him trouble were the ones when he did not have those few precious seconds to fully deduce and predict his opponent, or when something outside the fight intereferes with the 'plan', so to speak(such as the fortune teller throwing knives at the Cossack). Also, baritsu was style developed as a means for 'gentlemen' to defend themselves, and it's more suited around using objects to gain an advantage(watches, canes, coats)
Jhertzog83 1 month ago
@ReaverThe of course if you can see moriarty was targetting mostly to his injury to make serious damage. without it sh would have no need to block that part of the body making it 50% more effective.
retardhazard 1 month ago
I'm gonna have a psychic battle with you now
bmn818 1 month ago
Holmes versus Moriarty...
Aristotle versus MASHY SPIKE PLATES!!!!!!
FandeJay 1 month ago
Who knew a hypothetical fight would be so hypothetically epic?
Mazsk 1 month ago 6
Imagine Sherlock fighting Chuck Norris:
"His advantage: he's Chuck Norris. My advantage: none. Screw all of you, I'm outta here."
89Obscure 1 month ago 6
This truelly is "a battle of the minds"
marvelbrothers 1 month ago 4
1:51 Holmes: dammit Watson Why You So Slow
215Ravenous 1 month ago
@215Ravenous Y U NO come in time?????
kingonato 1 month ago
Moriarty didn't anticipate Watson walking in on it, and it was right when it started they could've taken him!
faceless665 1 month ago 4
First, pillage the nest. Clip wings. Then, blunt his beak. Crack eggs, a pinch of salt, a touch of pepper...additional seasoning required. Breakfast is served.
cyborgninja100 1 month ago 3
@cyborgninja100 Yeah, the line made me laugh.
Calucifer13 1 month ago
Actually the best final battle scene in cinematic history! Now, all we need to do is get someone to make a GOOD Sherlock Holmes game (with the perfect and respectable balance of action, puzzle and mystery) and make the greatest final boss battle too. seriously, why has Holmes and Moriarty's battle NEVER been in a video game?
Cheeseaddicteddaleks 1 month ago 5
@Cheeseaddicteddaleks I kind of hope they don't, with a scene as well choereographed as this, it would inevitably be reduced to a tawdry quicktime event =(
NickStedmon 1 month ago
Shelock Holmes:His advantage:my injury,my advantage:his rage
Moriarty:Shut the hell up and let's get this over with!!!
Moriarty50967 1 month ago
I came in this scene.
SomeOtherGuy91 1 month ago 2
Fave part of the movie
plushiepenguin 1 month ago 2
best part of the movie
loner1520 1 month ago 2
You know when SHERLOCK HOLMES says, "Arsenal running dry" that shit's not looking good.
CegeRoles 1 month ago 31
@CegeRoles i thought he implied it to moriaty
geekyt4 1 month ago
yea they def just had an entire fight scene in their minds...
teimusheen 1 month ago 4
I have never read any of the books so this scene caught me off guard in the movies when I first saw it.
thomasryandevlin 2 months ago 8