#029 C5 MadStu's Water Fuel Cell - NEW RECORD! - New Data

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[maciejwrotek]

does it produce more energy then give ? Why does it consume so much current ?

[koulailat]

you should put a dimmer switch to control the voltage and the amps :)

[kurdishmob]

could someone please tell me if i can use my ignition coil pack as a pulsing step up transformer??

[afdhalatifftan92]

Nope, the current would be way too low...

No harm trying anyway...

[MadStu1978]

Most people performing these experiments will of course be using stainless steel plates.

The concentration ratio of KOH to Water is so small that it hasn't done any damage to my skin.

I don't dispute it could kill living plants, it certainly wouldn't kill dead ones. But the point is not to squirt this solution at plants or small animals, but to keep it within your container and to produce Hydroxy efficiently.

[MadStu1978]

Baking soda and tap water will see your water becoming very brown and dirty within an hour of use. Causing obstructions between your plates and therefore decreasing efficiency. Adding KOH to distilled water is a more accurate, reliable and proven method.

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[MadStu1978]

Only goes up to 15A though, and costs too much.

They say: "You must run this with your fuel cell or else your wires and water will overheat"

I say: use higher rated wires than you're going to run the cell at.

And your water will get hot whether you use this or not - using this will just slow the heating process (and slow the Hydroxy output).

If you want to buy a pre built PWM, at least wait until Zero has his for sale.

Stu :)

[SPPACELABS]

Be carefull of your volume meter. The bottle needs to be submerged enough so that you will displace 500mL of water. It looked like you pretty high out of the water. Just an observation!!

[MadStu1978]

yes, the bottle holds more than 500 ml - there is a line which I've drawn on the bottle which is where the water level should be before I start my tests.

I really need to build a more accurate measuring device though.

[SPPACELABS]

Hey Stu. I enjoy your work and look forward to sharing ideas. We produced 8.41 MMW by isolating each cell. Check out our video.

Thanks,

Jeff

[MadStu1978]

Hi Jeff,

That's looking good! :)

[GentleManSteve65]

Wondering if you ever used white-ash on your cell?

[MadStu1978]

Nope? Unless it's known as a different name? I've not heard of white ash.

[GentleManSteve65]

It is the ash of hard wood and is Lye or potassium oxide or something like that. You burn hard wood till it makes a white ash and that is lye

[MadStu1978]

I use Potassium Hydroxide (KOH) which I belive is also known as Potassium Hydrate, Caustic Potash, Potassa and Potash Lye

[AntiStalinist]

Wrong! It's called NaOH sodium Hydroxide or Lye.

[MadStu1978]

No, I'm not wrong. KOH and NaOH are 2 different things, you're referring to Caustic Soda, I don't use that - I use Pottassium Hydroxide :)

NaOH is perfectly acceptable to use though and probably more easily available than KOH. Look for drain cleaners in hardware shops.

[deltahho]

Hi Stu Have you got any paint on your tank yet? I'm just about to put mine together should be all glued tomorrow I did fined a fast way to dry my cell useing a Cold/Heated esky & set it to 35oC then put a pc fan in the bottem so the warm air

[deltahho]

could go in between the cell then closed the lid and left a small gap for the solvent to vent out only took a cupple of hours to fully set no smell I had to do it because our weather over here has been to cold and the glue needs to get over 15oC Looking forward to your next Vid

[MadStu1978]

Oh yeah, I think winters gonna be setting in soon over there right? I reckon you're winters are about as cold as our summers are though!

Anyway, good luck with the cell, I look forward to seeing it. :)

[bigwheels18]

Keep up the good work Stu, its good to see someone doing something productive and shareing their findings on here.

[MadStu1978]

Thanks mate, it's appreciated :)

[kaboooom2000uk]

I think its cool your trying this on a diesel. Have you noticed and substancial gains using your system? i am currently building one myself and would like your feedback if possible. I have posted a vid of my design, but will upload a running vid of it later in the week. It has 20 plates of perferated stainless. hopfully it will produce enough gas. Im also going to add a presure shutoff switch so it cuts off at a set limit, and regulated to the intake. Anyway excelent work so far. keep it up!

[MadStu1978]

Hi,

With this latest cell, I haven't yet tested for mpg gain.

I haven't looked at your video yet, but I can tell you perforated plates aren't good. The reason I'm using acrylic around the edges of my cell is because I want to prevent any current from bypassing the neutral plates, and so increasing efficiency / output.

With perforated plates a lot of the current would leak right past any neutral plates, so your output wouldn't be as much as it could be.

I'll take a look at your video.

[insAneTunA]

You are a BIG HERO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MadStu1978]

lol, thanks :)

[hydrogen2dmax]

cool stuff everyone keep up the good work!!!

[MadStu1978]

Thanks mate :)

[eandatoo]

Hey, Stu

much better improvement from your first crude design - lol. I'm just using a plain old acrylic dry food storage canister. I also had some problems with gas leakage but I used some bathroom caulk and it worked ok. I'm now working on an improved design. Good luck.

[MadStu1978]

Hehe, thanks for the encouragement! We all have the ability to design and build these cells. And we can do it much better, more efficient and cheaper than anything that's available for sale aswell.

I'll be watching your progress :)

[deltahho]

Hi there Stu I tryed glueing my cell together and the glue I used did'nt work! man long time to clean it all off had to use acetone, I've herd of something called E6000 adhesives so I'm going to try and get some tomorrow and will try it out and get back to you because you might be able to get that where you live maby? Hope to see some lovey green paint on your tank soon thanks, Kind Regards DeltaHHO

[MadStu1978]

Hello mate,

Doh! What was the stuff you used again? Was it silicone based?

I've not heard of E6000 but I'll have a search for it.

Cheers!

[deltahho]

Hi Stu I've got some Marine Goop just waitting for it to dry am using a computer fan to see if I can speed up the glueing process seems to be working I got the Goop for $15 Aussie thats to my door not as much as I thought it would be its taken a full tube to glue for the cell, What the status of your cell how is it going any more data for it has it gotten better the more you have used it? does it run cooler from your other cells Thanks Keep up the good work. Kind Regards!! :-)

[MadStu1978]

not too bad a price I suppose, I wouldn't trust the fan though, do what Zero did and give it a sniff before getting it wet. If it still smells of solvent, give it another day to dry.

[onamissionshifter]

Hi

Just watched a few of your vids including the one were your cell blew up/broke down.

Put all electrical connection under water. please please watch some of the old timers making hho cells, all lecy connections are always under water.

[MadStu1978]

Thanks for the tip

Putting underwater would also serve to keep the temperature of the steel down aswell, so to prevent any melting on the plastic housing

The logistics of doing this with this current cell's design makes it difficult though. To get an efficient cell you must cover it all in acrylic or something else so the current doesn't leak around the edges. I assure you though that all the exposed steel connections will be covered with insulating material eventualy. It wont spark again.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Well done Stu keep up the good work.

[MadStu1978]

Cheers mate

[H2inICE]

Not bad at all m8

When you hawe some hr's on it it's going to pick up I believe

[MadStu1978]

That's good to know, thanks.

[deltahho]

Nice One MadStu I just got my KOH today :-)I've drilled my holes on my + & - terminals so its slowly getting there Did you manage to get the temp meter going? do you know what the temp was when in your tested Thanks DeltaHHO

[MadStu1978]

No, doesn't work as I need to keep it covered. I've ruined it now so will need to get a new one probably.

I don't know what the temp was, but it wasn't hot at all. It hasn't been run for long periods though, so we'll see once I've got it running in there for a few hours.

I look forward to seeing yours :)

[fblade42]

good work stu , why don`t you rig it up to the van now and see what difference it makes to your mileage on a tank or 2 of fuel?

it would be good to see the results.

i`ve just watched a few of your earlier video`s and i was just wondering if you tried using baking powder (bicarbonate of soda )in the distilled water?

good luck mate

[MadStu1978]

I have previously used baking soda. I can't shortly after though the cell I used it with burnt out - not due to the baking soda, but due to the stupid and extremely dangerous glass water4gas style design.

EVERYBODY - AVOID WATER4GAS LIKE THE PLAGUE!

I now use Pottassium Hydroxide (KOH).

At the moment I am focussing on increasing efficiency. Once I have this pushed as far as it will go I will again begin mpg tests. However due to change in circumstances I don't drive as much now.

[fblade42]

what happened to the water4gas design ?

did you use 6mm thick quality perspex for the tower ? did you add more than one teaspoon of baking soda ?

also did you ask them on thair website for help and if so were they helpful ?

cheers

[MadStu1978]

I haven't contacted them, I didn't buy anything from them.

Their design is littered all over the net, and they will get us all banned. The design is so dangerous. Please, if anybody decides to build a cell, do not go with the water4gas design. Save the $100 or whateveer it costs and spend it on materials instead. You'll be disappointed with the efficiency and output of the water4gas design, aswell as having built a glass shrapnel bomb.

[fblade42]

have you read their books? i don`t think you are being too fair ,if you`ve just followed their design without reading their updated books then i don`t think yours would have gone into meltdown. i`ve built one of theirs and had it running for over 2 hours without a problem ,and no overheating ,you have to make sure you use 6mm good quality perspex/acrylic sheet and also use good high temp glue (i used jb-weld can cope with 600 deg f) and make sure the glue is behind the electrodes .

[MadStu1978]

Yes, I've read their books. ANYONE can read the books, for free

I understand why you're upset with my statements though, it's because you receive commission payments from selling the Water4Gas ebook. And this has to be the ONLY reason why you're ignoring the safety issues.

And I don't understand your argument for the acrylic, it's the bloody glass jars that'll fragment into flying shards of doom!

[fblade42]

i`m not upset with your statements at all . and for your information i`m not selling or making commission off of anything ,you presume too much...i am absolutely nothing to do with water4gas .

why would the jar fragment ? if it is secured properly inside the car whats the problem? if you are suggesting that the jar would explode then you would have to be doing something very wrong , and anyway you can make the same design in any container that you wish if you have those worries .

[MadStu1978]

Your videos promote Water4Gas.

The job of all hydroxy producers is to make an extremely explosive gas. So to have one explode is not unheard of. to have it explode in a glass jar is just stupid.

You say you would be doing something very wrong for this to happen? The 1st thing you've done wrong is followed a dangerous design that tells you to build it in a glass jar.

It would of course be the fault of the builder for not building it properly, but most of us are novices when we start out

[fblade42]

what video`s ? i don`t have any uploaded video`s ???

[MadStu1978]

ok, my mistake, I just looked at your favourites

[MadStu1978]

This is the reason why your dangerous design makes it even MORE so. People will get hurt, and the Oil lobbyists will get there way in proving that this is a dangerous technology that should be buried.

I certainly don't want that to happen, hence my opinion on the Water4Gas design. A dangerous, inefficient waste of cash if nothing else.

[MadStu1978]

ANYONE can read the books, for free at easywatercar.c o m/ onlinebooks

[BrokeMotorsports]

Looking good, you are definately making progress with each evolution!

[MadStu1978]

Oh yeah, but only thanks to everyone elses comments and suggestions. And I'll move the 4.22 up pretty soon too.

[SmartScarecrow]

nicely done MadStu !!! 4.22mmw is much better than average, but of course we all know you will figure out how to push it even higher ...

aint that marine goop great stuff ??? it will seal anything !!! you gotta find a reasonable substitute somewhere there in the UK that has similar properties ...

[MadStu1978]

Hehe, nothing I've found so far is good enough.

I'll keep looking though, and if anyone out there reading this knows of anything that's available in the UK, please do tell!