I look into this mans eyes and all I see are deep pools of eternal blackness. The man is a liar as is proven to any who have listened to his false prophecies from the past. He is a blind man leading the blind. Mark him and avoid him according to romans 16:17 I do not fear speaking against him for the bible tells us to have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness but rather expose them. This man's false gospel will lead you far from the Jesus of scripture.
A born again child of God will be able to "spot" the wolves (apostates/ false prophets/ vessels of dishonor and wrath) in an instant because of God's powerful Holy Spirit working in them to provide SPIRITUAL EYESIGHT. Now, can anyone say, "Necromancy?" That's what I see. :-)
I agree with that. That portion about artists prophesying through art... I heard that about a year and a half ago, just in my alone time with God. It's remarkable how the same God, by the same Spirit, speaks to multiple people. Thanks for confirming that word Bob.
да у него лицо даже отображает его хозяев-демонов,скоро Иисус Христос очистит землю от таких. but his face is even displays his masters, demons, soon Jesus Christ to cleanse the earth of such
I think you will become a follower of Christ. It seems crazy until you personally experience him. I am praying that tonight he enters the room and wakes you up from your sleep to speak to you personally.
@gsong123 Anyone who knows the Lord? Wow, anyone? That is a remarkably broad declaration. There are entire international ministries, vibrant, fruitful, and loving, who do not share your opinion. Guess they don't know the Lord then. Wow, that is a ton of happy, joyful, empowered, generous, loving, selfless, and I guess totally deceived people lol.
@erentheca This is not my opinion, Jesus said it. There will be many that stand before him with their kind loving deads and he will say depart from me....False teachers and false prophets are easy to spot... all you have to do is look at how they treat the word. These KC "prophets" manipulate the word if they use it at all for their own gain. If one knows Jesus the red lights blare in an instant when these false teachers open their mouths. Bob Jones is one of the most heretical of the bunch.
@outdoorsbound I dont make very much money these days as I am at home looking after 2 small babies. In the past I spent a lot of my money funding my way through Bible College and supporting local churches. I have worked for years on a voluntary capacity doing 'ministry' work. Hinn and Joyce Meyer and the likes have become very wealthy through decieving people and distracting them from knowing the true nature of God and the Bible, just stating a fact.
He claims that God revealed to him that prophets are to be only 66% accurate, and that he would be providing false prophecies so that they would not become more accurate. This was to prevent too many Ananias' and Saphira's.
City Churches. All other churches are to be incorporated into the Kansas City Fellowship, then closed and membership transferred to the the one city church under KCF leadership. Those pastors and elders who resist will be removed.
Shepherd's Rod Revelation: On the day of atonement each year, the prophet (Bob Jones) is to hold out his rod for all congregation to walk under (Note: This was said to be a revelation from God).
Yeah, name one of his prophecy's that has been acurate. Bob Jones is no man of God, he's a wacko taking advantage of people who are down and out. These practices are new age, the spirit guides he uses are really demons!
Have you heard Bob in person, heard what He teaches or known anyone that has had personal contact with him? Or are you just judging by rumors from other biased misinformed individuals? I have heard Bob speak several times, and know several people who know him personally. He has a heart to serve the Lord and the body of Christ.
I wouldn't waste my time on this heritic! He abused women and thats a fact for which he was not disciplined or repentant. Sorry he is a nut! Nothing he say's is biblical and it doesn't even make sense. I know of people involved with this garbage who's lives are a mess trying to get out of it! Jesus warned over and over DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
I suggest you do some research on Bob Jones. If you knew your Bible you would know what he is saying is false. Anyone that adds or takes away from the Word of God is just asking for it. Do you think because a person talks about Jesus that makes him for real? All of these people use the name of Jesus but their hearts are into the supernatural and pumping up their own delusional minds. Bob Jones is a false prophet he has so many false prophecy's it's amazing anyone would listen to him.
@gsong123 I understand where your coming from. Remember there is nothing wrong with the supernatural.Jesus says that heaven is at hand for us.I'm not going to point fingers at people too,if your wrong about Bob Jones and he is a man of god then it all falls back on you.If you are truly a born again christian then you would not point fingers and accuse.Instead pray for the man,for he is god creation.Jesus loves him as much as he loves you.
We are exhorted to expose the workers of darkness. I have seen so much of this, as a child of God for forty plus years and I've seen the ruined lives. When I point a finger as you say; it's done out of love for the body of Christ! Someone needs to stand up and tell the truth. I pray for Bob Jones soul, and I'm sure God loves him but what he is doing is an abomination. People that fall for this stuff will fall for the anti-christ! I will continue to expose false prophets. The word of God now!
I don't want anyone to take my word for anything...it's whether or not it lines up with Gods word. All I ask is that people use discernment before falling for false teachers. Check them out, ask God to reveal the truth. Many are falling away and being deceived by these people.
Just google Bob Jones you don't need documentation, just listen to him. Check out how many false prophecies he's given out on you tube alone. According to the word if a prophet is not 100% acurate they are false prophets plain and simple. In the old testament they were taken out and stoned. After what he did to the women you would think he's had enough shame to get out of the public eye but he continues on.. unrepentant and still deceiving people.
don't worry brother. This proves they don't read the word. The Bible says that if a prophet prophecies and it doesn't happen, He is a false prophet period! Jeremiah was tested by God when He called him as a boy Jeremiah 1. Prophets were believed false if they were not 100 % accurate. We have all fallen short of God's glory. I think these guys do have dreams however, they are sometimes twisted because they don't know the word. If they read the word, then they can rebuke false truth
I will give you a tip to a Godfearing man, Justin Peters, i just received his DVD "A call for Discernment" frightening, but so true! If you want to hear truth about where the church is going, listen to this man!
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children. HSA 4:6
Bob Jones is as heretical as they come! He is not only a pervert but a false prophet leading thousands astray. I exhort you to pray for discernment.
Anyone that would have women get naked in his office so he could lay hands on them and pray for them is a pervert. Using his "spiritual authority" to take advantage of women is despicable! If you don't believe me google it, the original article that appeared in the media is probably still out there. This moral collapse is well known even to his followers and was not an isolated thing, there were several women abused by him. Strange why women love him so much!?!?!? Bill Clinton syndrome???
@gsong123 media is a controlled environment . u must not beleive the media but believe the truth that God puts in your heart, than u will know what truth really is.
I believe the word of God..this stuff is extra biblical at best. The Holy spirit indeed shows us how we should go. Bob Jones is a total heritic. His so called prophecy's are huge failures, not to mention his perversion. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Far cry from the meaningless garbage put out by the new cults.
It's been clearly documented that Bob Jones was asked to leave the early Vineyard church because he had repeatedly asked women to remove their clothing in order to receive a "word from the Lord". Bob's own actions have laid a history that judges him itself so no judgement is being offered by anyone else.
He supports Todd Bentley...another adulterous liar. Todd's affair with his intern and live in nanny was in full swing before the Lakeland outpouring began. God had better choices in men to use.
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Revelation 1:5
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler
who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?
This man is an unwashed reprobate. Shut UP you dirty old heretic...you couldn't even discern the enumerated heresies, false prophecies, false sign and wonder that accompanied Todd Bentley.
Bob Jones is a man of God who died and went to Heaven. Jesus sent him back because it wasn't his time to go and he wanted Bob to help lead the church in winning a billion souls to Christ. The new sword of the Spirit that Bob is refering to is called the Faith of God. (Mark 11:22-25)
A billion souls? He better get busy because he's not getting any younger and as far as I can tell young people are becoming harder and harder to reach.
We need discernment people!!!!!!!
We need discernment like never before!!!!!! Bob Jones and his ilk are leading people to hell because they have no discernment and no respect for Gods word! You want to move in the super natural? Start by asking God for discernment! Then read the word and believe it!
2 Corinthians 3, 12-18, "Since this new covenant gives us such confidence, we can be very bold...And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ...And as the Spirit of the Lord works within us, we become more and more like him and reflect his glory even more." You must believe and ask God to remove the veil. If God grants this to you, then you will begin to understand.
This scripture speaks of the veil that covers those that can't understand the gospel, in particular the Jews. There is absolutely nothing in these scriptures suggesting a veil removed so one can see flaming swords or anything else. This is what false prophets do in twisting scripture. If you read on it even speaks of handling the word of God deceitfully. I'm sorry but Bob Jones is a false prophet and a heretic, there is nothing but extra-Biblical nonsense in his "teachings"
By the way, haven't you ever noticed how he never has a Bible? With all the warnings Paul gave of false doctrine and false prophets, I would be a lot more discerning with people like Bob Jones. If you love Jesus you will love his word the 2R1 Gods word is to be revered, when we don't... the door is open to all kinds of deception. Bob Jones is a proven false prophet and will lead many to eternal separation from God.
I really don't know anything about Bob JONES. I have had a dream where I met Jesus on the Jewish Day of Attonement, similar to what he says, but Jesus gave me very specific orders to pray for all the children of Israel. Jesus demands that we work hard to save others. What ever you think of Bob Jones, don't loose sight of your Christian mission in this world.
Are you saying the Bible never uses the image of a sword??? Are you saying that Jesus is forbidden to use a sword in spiritual battle? Are you saying that God is dead and that he can not actually speak to people anymore? When Jesus died on the cross, does he not now have authority over the flaming sword which guards the garden of eden? Will Jesus not baptize us in fire? Will Jesus not use a sword in the book of revelation? Is Jesus forbidden to speak to me in dreams?
Your questions: 1) NO 2) NO 3) NO 4)YES 5} YES 6) YES 7) NO
I'll ask you a couple,
Did Paul and Jesus both warn us of FP's in the last days? Did he not warn us about tolerating sound doctrine? Did Jesus himself warn us about being deceived?
Does the Bible say "you will know them by their fruit"? Did Paul warn of those preaching another Jesus? Did Paul say hold to the traditions taught by him? I love the gift's, but I love God's word more. God and his word>the 2R1
Do you know the guy is a pervert? Do you care that he had women get naked in his office so he could lay hands on them for prophecy? Do you care? How can you love someone that has absolutely abused people that trusted him? After getting caught he didn't even have the decency to repent, how can someone follow such a despicable person?
a new sword of the Spirit? huh? the Word is the Word is the Word is the Word. period. there are NO "new" revelations or "swords" being "released" by "God"...this is false. the Scripture is complete, the faith ONCE delivered to the saints. period.
I don't know if you were referring to me or not but the Lord tells us that "of those on the outside, God is the judge... but those on the inside (of the church) you are the judges".
God never forbids us from judging righteously about false teaching or false prophecy. The Lord warns us against judging hypocritically. And He expects us to have discernment about the Word. Doing your homework on Bob Jones and his false, "manifest sons of God" doctrine pretty much sums up the matter. So do it.
mr jones you are telling us what you think the lord is saying ie your interpretation I think myself that jesus just simply lived and walked among those whos hope was in need of his maybe america is n need of dollars in the name of jesus
^The SWORD OF THE SPIRIT BOB comes to separate the wheat from the chaff for the lord is the army bob and walks in the mantel that only he/she can wear this you will see before the end 2008 for his chosen one willk bear witness
Satan's chosen one, Bob Jones, already bore false witness of Todd Bentley at Lakeland. He false prophesied the "greatest time of this end time Revival would be from June 22 to July 22!" But of course, because Bobby is listening to the antichrist spirit THIS WAS PRECISELY when TODD BENTLEY's marriage fell apart due to drunkeness and adultery and the "revival" flopped. Bob never talks about sin because he still hasn't repented for prophesying over a naked mom/daughter @ the Anaheim Vineyard.
And, who are we to judge it? Wasn't David a man of God? Yes he was, but he commited adultary. Eliah was a man of God, but when he got attacked he ran and hid himself. Peter was a man of God, but he betrayed Jesus. Who are we to judge these things?
Maybe the Sword of the Spirit is spiritual battle, and authority.
God bless you, don't want any discussions by the way.
Who are we to judge? Well, Paul tells us in Corinthians that "of those on the outside of the Church, God is the judge; of those on the inside, we are the judges." We must protect the sheep from false teaching and false doctrines. Too bad you don't want any "discussions" because discussions like this may save souls from the coming judgment of God on those who "no longer love the truth" -- those on whom He promises He WILL send a "strong delusion". Jones is teaching the end time delusion.
No, actually the Word says that "iron sharpens iron" and we are to "give every man a reason for the faith within us". Discussion does not bring separation, it brings Truth and the Light. You do understand that this is witchcraft and superstition taught by Jones? Do your homework. They teach metaphors not understanding. If we do not understand our salvation (which we only have by hearing the Word preached) then we cannot wear the Helmet of Salvation. Do your homework on Jones, please.
P.S. Actually you are wrong about Lakeland. Todd Bentley has not seen his children or wife since July. He filed for divorce in July. Bob Jones is a false prophet who listens to untested and undiscerned "angels" -- not unlike Joseph Smith of the Mormons. He adds to the word of God. He is a liar and AntiChrist. Do your homework for your own sake and your family's sake on Jones/Cain/Hamon. Scary stuff, brother.
Finally, please refrain from Old Testament ideas in the dispensation of Pentecost. That's a hook these Elijah Listers use to deceive the flock. There no longer is a need for Old Testament style prophets. The Holy Spirit, a better thing, has come. Before the Cross, there was no Spirit freely given. Jezebel in the NT is a spirit of false prophesy and sexual immorality... just like Bentley, Cain and Jones. We cannot be in agreement with them or we are "tolerating Jezebel" ala Rev. 2:20.
Hey, anth -- thanks for the head's up. The liars of Lakeland:
Bill Hamon, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, Paul Cain, Rick Joyner, Bob Jones Cindy Jacobs Chuck Pierce are leading the church into the great End Time Delusion that God promises He will send on those who no longer love the truth. Bless you. There is no end times revival. Only Apostasy. This is why God says: "When the Son of Man returns to the earth, will He still find faith?" Bob Jones is anti Christ and so is C Peter Wagner & friends
in one sense jesus has become big business in america and in order to sustaine the business they need these so called revivals the problem is it steals from the rest of us the fact that we all need revival so what do we mean by revival 'take me out of this place lord it hurts and so those who say they are their for us in the name of jesus lead us to believe that they are the way to revival when in fact they need it themselves. marketing! sometimes a voice in the wildeness gets heard, keep at it.
its refreshing to read that someone else is cautious when it comes to those bearing false witness in the name of !americas desire to lead the way in all things as well as phrophecy. these people do seem to get carried away with their own self belief which worries me greatly todd bentley was one such. sometimes the loudest voice gets heard and so it is in america My heart tells me that you too need truth keep seeking and keep questioning bob has fooled many but thankfully not you take caare
Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. Colossians 4
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 1 Peter 3
Thank you for replying. "We are in the time of the release of the Sword of the Spirit"???? Even Bob's insane opening statement makes no sense. The Sword of the Spirit is a metaphor for the power of the Word of God to uncover hidden emotions and sin (finer than a two edged sword). So what is Bobby saying here? Nothing. We've been imbued with power from on high since Pentecost, the promise that even the Old Testament Prophets "longed for but did not see". & sin is always the issue, bro.
Thanks also for your "blessings from Daddy" but you do know that Jesus commanded us to not call anyone "Father" but our Father in heaven? Yeah. So all that "spiritual father" stuff is completely unbiblical, according to Jesus. You need to show yourself approved - Bob Jones Rick Joyner Bill Hamon et all are false teachers, into taking physical dominion ala William Branham in the last days. Bob is just as nuts as Branham. He is an apostate and a spiritual Mormon who adds to the Word.
Until Bob Jones repents of Baal worship, i.e. prophesying over naked women while molesting them in his church office, something that his buddy Paul Cain also did (prophesying falsely over men while sodomizing them) sin remains a BIG issue in Bob Jones life. And since when is false teaching & false doctrine not a sin? Jesus warns us against this. Apostates do not go to heaven, brother. And "a good tree cannot produce bad fruit". Jesus warned us of men like Bob Jones & the End Time Delusion.
I am very aware of the schemes and wiles of the Devil and ANYONE OF US can be deceived at anytime. 1/3 of the Angels were deceived so how hard is it for Satan to deceive Us?
Todd is going to have to do a Whole Lot more to be SEPERATED from the Love of Christ than for Teaching a few unusual Doctrines and Personal Experiences!
I am Persuaded NEITHER Death,nor Life,Angels,nor Principalities,nor Powers
shall be able to separate Us from the Love of God,which is In Christ our Lord!
Bob Jones is a false prophet. This is new age witchcraft. All these people speak swell words. They don't talk about sin, repentance and belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Instead they talk about new revelations that are far from sound biblical doctrine. Can we stick to scriptures people and stop trusting the in the new revelations from man. We are not called to trust man. We are called to trust God and HIs Word.
hey... im just interested in learning about how other people think and how they go about ataining their beleifs. im just getting into all the weird(signs miricles healings etc.)stuff but from the little i have seen, the reason i think they dont just go0 around preaching john 3:16 is cause thats for those who are lost.i dont really beleive that all these prophets and whatnot are out souly to save souls but more to help teach to edify ourselves in christ
Unfortunately, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley and the New Apostolic Reformation preach another Gospel. tercelkisor, don't follow signs and wonders. Follow Jesus Christ only. Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and don't embrace dominionism or kingdom now doctrine. These doctrines refuse to aknowledge Jesus Christ's sole role in setting up the Kingdom of God. Read Matt 7 and study it. It basically says there will be many peopple who conduct signs and wonders going to hell.
i think there are different calling to different people in gods kingdom.(some primarily so lead sould to god and others to do other stuff like healings) i like that you question what you hear. sometimes i find myself getting drawn into things without confirming it first cause i desire so much the power of god thats displayed with the saints of old. but just think that if it was someone 2000 years ago doing this there wouldnt be near as much critisizm from the church.. whats your take on this
Hi tercelkisor, I appreciate your humility in approaching the signs and wonders movement. These prophets and apostle come preaching another Gospel. When the apostles did signs and wonders it accompanied the preaching of Gospel. The Gospel is most important message out there. What if John (some name i made up) gets healed but doesn't believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ? He got healed in this life but will face the wrath God for all eternity. THe healing meant nothing in all enterity...
How did Todd get one million people converted to Christianity without Preaching the Gospel?
Is this the way you have been taught to RESTORE a man back into FELLOWSHIP?God's Word says,"RESTORE YOUR BROTHER,in a spirit of MEEKNESS Not JUDGEment;-) Gal 6
Jesus told Us,Many will come in My Name saying I am of Christ.I am a Christian! Are you a Real Christian?
Mature Christians are not manipulative Gossipmongers? Unless you are a Carnal Christian? Then we know how you walk,in the Flesh!
skydiver777, wait a minute! You or Todd do not have the authority to declared someone saved. Only God can declare someone saved but we can look at the fruit. I am glad you mentioned fruit so lets look at some. Todd ministered another Gospel. He said: "God told me to preach the angels instead of Jesus Christ". Rotten fruit. Here is another fruit --> the blattent violence (kicking people in the face and etc) and telling people that did it because he had to be obedient to God. Blasphemy.
Jesus said: " you will know them by their fruits". I am not declaring them (or you) to be unsaved. I am looking at fruit and that is all I will do. Look at the fruit. Some of most ungodly, blamphemous stuff I have ever seen but everyone is saying what a wonderful move of God. You know the majority of those people (or people sitting in church) are on their way to hell. Read Matt 7. Just because most of the people are saying this is a wonderful move of God doesn't make it a move of God...
So Rev 2 and 3 tells me that Todd is being stored by the Spirit of Jesus. You don't know that at all. Stop speaking about things you know nothing about. You or I cannot declare that Todd is being restored. Only God can. Maybe you are more aware of Todd's heresy than me. That may be so. So what did you do to expose it while it was going on. Did you expose it? Stop listening to false prophets like Kim Clement too. Go to the scriptures. We are done here, sir.
Itchin, You say, "God has been teaching you about MERCY for the past month?" lols!You need to study what He has been Teaching you?
We have exposed the deceivers! God waited because that is what He did in the Episitles. He allowed the Leaders of the Church to Work things out. Acts 15; study that; 1 Cor 5; About the brother committing fornication. The Leaders took care of the Problem and He was RESTORED to fellowship in 2 Cor 2! I understand many of you are Bible Students and learning. ;-)
Why laugh of loud? Are you a bible student and still learning? You make it sound like you went to Fuller Sem. or some college and now you are a master. Bentley needs restoration from someone without any afiliation with Freshfire, toronto or the new apostolic reformation (NAR). They are the roots this false annointing and false doctrine. If they say he is restored I will have a hard time believinng it because all those movements are modern day deceptions. I have been in NAR and I left.
We are supposed to mark them that bring division among the brethren contrary to the faith. Todd has not repented for his false teaching. Therefore I, along with others will continue to expose this false teacher and movement, period. HOw come Todd can teach false doctrine for so long without the chastisement of the Lord? Tell me that. He who the Lord loveth, he also chastise (Heb 12). The Lord has been teaching me mercy for the last mo. By the mercy of God people expose this man.
I help expose this man to bring light in the midst of darkest of darkness. It is my prayer that these people get out of this false movement (i.e. apostasy). I don't care if they are getting healed. The new revelations and words of knowledge they are receivinng contradicts the scriptures, period. Lord said he would send a strong delusion to those who did not have a love for the truth. We are still in a sinful body but by the power of the Holy Spirit we can go from glory to glory in the Lord.
;-) Have you Studied Todd Bentley's 376 page Testimony? No? I rest my case!
I walk in the wisdom of the Spirit of Jesus and Abba Father who lives inside of me,for over 40 years.
I look at the whole picture and not just a few pieces of the PUZZLE of someones life.I Observe from the Beginning to the End and the Judgment Seat of Christ.
Study 1 Cor 3, 2 Cor 5
You have No Idea what the WHOLE Gospel is that the Apostle Paul Teaches? Do you?
So many of you armature Bible students Misinterpret 2 Thess 2. Taking one or two verses out of context and trying to prove there is a strong delusion now.
AFTER THE RESTRAINER IS TAKEN AWAY the Strong delusion is Coming FROM GOD on those who had the chances to repent and did not!
The word for Apostasy in 2 Thess 2 does not modify a noun in that Scripture so the interpretation of that passage means a Radical Departure of something mentioned in that paragraph. Our gathering together to Him!
The word healed means saved,delivered and made completely whole.You don't care about their healing? That is surprizing to learn! How many seekers will read your message and see the"love of Jesus"from another hypocrite?
You can post Scriptures all day but if those Truths have not become written on your heart and shared with Mercy and Compassion then they are doing more damage to seekers of Truth and to the reputation of the Body of Christ.Put into Practice All of the Words of the Lord.James 1
I see what you are saying about compassion but where do you get your definition for healing? Healing doesn't mean what you say it means. There are multitudes of saved people out there with afflictions (whether physical or spiritual). I am more concerned about their salvation. What if a person is (supposedly) healed by someone operating under a demonic spirit and that person never gets saved cause they only came for the healing? Is that person better off now going to hell?
Itchin,never say never unless you have studied what you are trying to teach someone about.
The defination for healing I use is from the Greek word Sozo. Search it out. Wherever you read the words, whole, heal, save, delivered, etc the word Sozo is usually the Greek word. It also means much more.
I have studied 100s of words in the Hebrew and Greek and it helps me when I write songs and develop teachings.
Whosoever calls on the Name of the Lord will be Sozo(ed)! Healed, saved, etc
I appreciate your scholarship and earnest desire to search the meanings of words. The meaning of words is very important. You are right about one of the meanings of being saved is healed but that is not the primary meaning. The point am I trying to make is this: 1) What if they get healed but they never come to saving faith. What was that healing worth to them in hell? 2) You know that Satan is coming with all lying signs and wonders too. The pt: we follow Jesus Chist not healings.
It is the Holy Spirits Ministry to Convict of Sin,Righteousness and Judgment!I plant and water the Seeds of His Word and He is the only one who can give the Increase.1 Cor3 I let God be God and try not to worry because worry leads to sin and Judging.I am not worried about satan. I have the Spirit of Truth living inside of me! The Spirit of Abba Father; Matt 10:20; and the Spirit of Jesus!John 14:23 So, how much power lives in Us? The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in Us! Selah
The meaning of a Greek word like sozo means whatever the context of the sentence is talking about. Healing..... it means healing. deliverance....sozo means deliverance.....simple as that. but in some sentences it means more than one defination just like our english words. LET GOD BE GOD. I will be dave with God inside of me...
Also skydiver, stop listening to false prophet Kim Clement. I look at your youtube homepage and I see hypocracy too. You Love thte things of this world too much. See I and II John.
Once again, I thank you for rebuking me on some issues.
Itchin,Learn Not to Judge what a person does until you know the facts!I set up bait for the secular crowd. You should see my Profile at Paltalk.Under Interests I have every worldly name I could find to witness to the secular people.My Profile comes up when someone seaches for a word.Then, they click on my Profile and Visit.Teachings are typed up under each of my pictures and sites to visit with testimonies about heaven,hell, miracles, heaings,etc.My profile gets opened up over 1000 times a week!
You want more fruit? Here is more, Todd has been seeing one of his Freshfire staff members in secret while he was supposedly healing people. What about his demonic (I mean literally) tatoos that he got after he got saved? He claimed God told him to get the tatoos too? He is not a brother. He needs to get saved, period. I am glad you mentioned Matt 7. It is one my favorite passages. Matt 7 is talking people like Todd, John Crowder and the New Apostolic Reformation.....
.....these people pose as christians but they are not. God never knew them. I am not gossiping at all. I am only helping others expose a deceiver that is bringing in damnable heresies. I hate that so many were and still are deceive by this man and this revival. we expose this man because 1) he is causing devision among the brethren contrary to the faith and 2) leading people to hell, period. skydiver, I guess you believe in the carnal christian doctrine which is poor interp. of Scripture.
skydiver, you need to walk in the spirit. How can you be so deceived about Bentley and this false revival unless you are walking in the flesh. The Holy Spirit inside me is grieved when I hear blasphemous things coming out of Bentley's mouth. Now does this mean I have no sin. NO. I do sin. We all do, but we are not continually living in sin. I think you are confused about this carnal christian doctrine. JEsus Christ says apostasy would take place b4 his second coming not revival!
;-) Have you Studied Todd Bentley's 376 page Testimony? No? I rest my case!
I walk in the wisdom of the Spirit of Jesus and Abba Father who lives inside of me,for over 40 years.
I look at the whole picture and not just a few pieces of the PUZZLE of someones life.I Observe from the Beginning to the End and the Judgment Seat of Christ.Study 1 Cor 3, 2 Cor 5...
You have No Idea what the WHOLE Gospel is that the Apostle Paul Teaches? Do you?
sky, I don't need to study his 376 pg testimony. That is not scripture. I will not question you salvation cause I don't know you. You don't know me either but you can still question. You see from the beginning to the end? God can only see from the beginning to the end. YOu can't. Even though I may be young in Christ GOd has got me up to speed about understanding the Gospel. I see that you may not understand the full Gospel either because you love false doctrine that Todd teaches.
sky, did you think it was great when Todd said: "The HOly Spirit said "Todd, Kick her in the face". Did you like when Todd said "I baptize you in the name of The Father, Son and Bam." if you think this revival is of one and only God, everlasting, then it is you who doesn't understand The Gospel of Jesus Christ!!! Do you know that they are praying that God would kill violently anyone that is against the lakeland revival? Do you know that? IF you agree with them you are deceived.
Todd is the Devil! well lets see! Jesus now uses Todd (the Devil) to bring in 1000000 souls then heals them b4 he gets the flock, then the Devil ( Todd) glorifies The King of Glory and the resurrection, delivers thousands more ( from himself) and his demons,
This is world history folks! The Devil has been converted! has repented and is now on the path to the Kingdom with his angels to boot! man! We love you Todd (The Devil) keep up the path to glory that leads to Jesus!
Matthew 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and there will be no sign given to it, except the sign of the prophet Jonah." He left them, and departed.
Thats awsome,God is huge.People try to find joy in the world.The only place u can find it is in Jesus.People get angrey with God and dont think he is there,and they say"where are You!,"But God is saying where are you my child!When people cover theirselves with sin God cant be apart of their lives,that is why he sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins,so that he could be with us.All u have to do is ask God for forgivness for ur sins and turn away from the darkness that pull u away from Gods arms.
This is the third witness to something God wants me to do. I don't really know to much about this prophet but, God knows! Amazingly today he has used him in the two things He is teaching equipping and asking me to do, the first: God is teaching me in practical ways How to Love , sounds silly but not for me I'm very grateful and in awe for the hope:I can learn it! So his testimony about heaven was key on this. Second He wants me to produce art, hearing this prophetic Word was set up by the Lord.
Bob Jones is an awsome mann of God,who simpily obeys our Loving God.This isnt a revival that is taking place, revivals last 2 maybe 3 days. This is the Glory of God and its here to stay. God is using Bob as a vesel to help the world know who God really is!!! Look around people!!!people are being healed,people are standing up from wheelchairs, people r being raised from the dead! and its all the power of our sweet, loving God
Revivals last 2 to 3 days; is this truly revival if those same people don't experience a newness in their heart to want to spread the Gospel of Jesus? I have witnessed many people be all emotional during a "so-called" revival and then less than a month later they are back to their old ways.
Do you get it now? "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit". All our warnings about Jones and Bentley could have been heeded and maybe the church would have been truly prophetically seeing the great financial disaster right after Lakeland. Ooops! Bob Jones didn't see that coming, now did he?
He is a liar and Anti Christ. Read your BIBLE, brother. Lakeland was a fraud.
Get over yourself. You do not see God nor hear him. I suggest you listen to these words so you won't be in sin win the Lord returns. This is true wisdom of God. You clearly do not know the Lord's heart. Stop judging before God judges you.
Anyway, I have shown myself approved and done the research on the spirits that Bob Jones has been listening to. He is AntiChrist: he fails to put his "angels" (read: demons) to the test in the same way Joseph Smith did not.
Bob Jones does not "tremble at His Word"... therefore God will send a strong delusion. Disprove me by doing the research and showing yourself approved while there is still daytime. You do understand the Joel 2 Army is not His church?
P.S. The Lord tells us to "test the spirits"... the only way to do that is to discern and judge a person's words and especially a self proclaimed "prophet's" words like Bob Jones... Paul tells us that " of those on the outside of the church, God is the judge... but those on the inside, WE are the judges... Charismatics get mixed up in the problem of judging hypocritically, discernment and judging righteously with the Word. Don't be confused, bro.
Speak the Truth my brother. I will live by the words of the Bible as revealed by God Himself and no one else. The Word of God and the message it presents is the means which men are saved, lives are to be lived, and faith is to be maintained. I am tired of the masses salivating for signs and wonders like pagans... what happened to faith like a child?
Just at this moment in time Bob Jones and Todd Bentley are being used by God to initiate the most amazing revival this world has ever known with millions being able to see what is happening online. Thousands of people are receiving Jesus as their saviour and hundreds of people are receving healing and many creative miracles are taking place. By their fruits you shall know them.
Wow. Great to read your post now seven months later.
Hope you see that what people were trying to tell you about Bentley and Bob Jones back then were true. Jones and Bentley and Joyner and Paul Cain are demonized lunatics. And sexually immoral baal worshippers who molest people while they prophesy over them.
Lakeland was the start of the End Time Delusion.
You need to show yourself approved and do your homework on these frauds as they try to claim the holy name of Christ.
Bob Jones is talking of a heavenly realm. Bob is wanting people to see things from a heavenly perspective. On the same basis that Jesus wanted us to consider when He told us in the Lord's prayer "on earth as it is in heaven".
I look into this mans eyes and all I see are deep pools of eternal blackness. The man is a liar as is proven to any who have listened to his false prophecies from the past. He is a blind man leading the blind. Mark him and avoid him according to romans 16:17 I do not fear speaking against him for the bible tells us to have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness but rather expose them. This man's false gospel will lead you far from the Jesus of scripture.
Enochsawit 6 months ago
A born again child of God will be able to "spot" the wolves (apostates/ false prophets/ vessels of dishonor and wrath) in an instant because of God's powerful Holy Spirit working in them to provide SPIRITUAL EYESIGHT. Now, can anyone say, "Necromancy?" That's what I see. :-)
SwordofSpirit1 7 months ago
amen to that!
joshua1daniel 1 year ago
lol he is the ugliest person i have ever seen
cresar 1 year ago
@cresar what does his loooks have to do with anything? It's the spirit that is important!
mycharchar88 9 months ago
I agree with that. That portion about artists prophesying through art... I heard that about a year and a half ago, just in my alone time with God. It's remarkable how the same God, by the same Spirit, speaks to multiple people. Thanks for confirming that word Bob.
erentheca 1 year ago
wow. That is a word that I have been waiting to hear for awhile. sword of the spirit.
bornatimetodie 1 year ago
да у него лицо даже отображает его хозяев-демонов,скоро Иисус Христос очистит землю от таких. but his face is even displays his masters, demons, soon Jesus Christ to cleanse the earth of such
AZ4345 1 year ago
you are all wasting time arguing! Just let the Holy Spirit guide you. He will show you. Let's reach the lost and pray for the sick. Love you all
twaiello 1 year ago 5
You religious people are too funny. You're probably the funniest and saddest part of this planet at the same time.
crimsontearz24 1 year ago
@crimsontearz24
I think you will become a follower of Christ. It seems crazy until you personally experience him. I am praying that tonight he enters the room and wakes you up from your sleep to speak to you personally.
oceanmandy 1 year ago 3
Amen!
lovethetruth7 2 years ago
Anyone that truly knows the Lord.... knows this guy is a liar and a fraud! It's sick how many people actually buy his false doctrine!
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 Anyone who knows the Lord? Wow, anyone? That is a remarkably broad declaration. There are entire international ministries, vibrant, fruitful, and loving, who do not share your opinion. Guess they don't know the Lord then. Wow, that is a ton of happy, joyful, empowered, generous, loving, selfless, and I guess totally deceived people lol.
erentheca 1 year ago
@erentheca This is not my opinion, Jesus said it. There will be many that stand before him with their kind loving deads and he will say depart from me....False teachers and false prophets are easy to spot... all you have to do is look at how they treat the word. These KC "prophets" manipulate the word if they use it at all for their own gain. If one knows Jesus the red lights blare in an instant when these false teachers open their mouths. Bob Jones is one of the most heretical of the bunch.
gsong123 1 year ago
This old man, how much money is he making from the ministry he claims he has,?
Lucy160476 2 years ago
Why does that matter? How much money are you making? And what is your ministry?
outdoorsbound 2 years ago
@outdoorsbound I dont make very much money these days as I am at home looking after 2 small babies. In the past I spent a lot of my money funding my way through Bible College and supporting local churches. I have worked for years on a voluntary capacity doing 'ministry' work. Hinn and Joyce Meyer and the likes have become very wealthy through decieving people and distracting them from knowing the true nature of God and the Bible, just stating a fact.
Lucy160476 2 years ago
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fuck jesus
cameronA678 2 years ago
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Were in the time when false prophets are having a hay day!
gsong123 2 years ago
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He claims that God revealed to him that prophets are to be only 66% accurate, and that he would be providing false prophecies so that they would not become more accurate. This was to prevent too many Ananias' and Saphira's.
gsong123 2 years ago
Manifest Sons of God/Dominion Theology
City Churches. All other churches are to be incorporated into the Kansas City Fellowship, then closed and membership transferred to the the one city church under KCF leadership. Those pastors and elders who resist will be removed.
Shepherd's Rod Revelation: On the day of atonement each year, the prophet (Bob Jones) is to hold out his rod for all congregation to walk under (Note: This was said to be a revelation from God).
gsong123 2 years ago
When he was in a mental institution, he claims that he was told by God that to regain his sanity, he must either forgive or kill 12 people.
Joel's Army/Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology
Christians are to take control of and dominate the world, in order for the millennium to begin.
gsong123 2 years ago
Bob Jones is an incredible man of God who has released so much breakthrough over many. God bless him.
bobyfreddy 2 years ago
Yeah, name one of his prophecy's that has been acurate. Bob Jones is no man of God, he's a wacko taking advantage of people who are down and out. These practices are new age, the spirit guides he uses are really demons!
gsong123 2 years ago
Have you heard Bob in person, heard what He teaches or known anyone that has had personal contact with him? Or are you just judging by rumors from other biased misinformed individuals? I have heard Bob speak several times, and know several people who know him personally. He has a heart to serve the Lord and the body of Christ.
bobyfreddy 2 years ago
I wouldn't waste my time on this heritic! He abused women and thats a fact for which he was not disciplined or repentant. Sorry he is a nut! Nothing he say's is biblical and it doesn't even make sense. I know of people involved with this garbage who's lives are a mess trying to get out of it! Jesus warned over and over DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 He talking about Jesus and you think he wacko? What kind of stuff you smoking?
Tomekwinxs 2 years ago
I suggest you do some research on Bob Jones. If you knew your Bible you would know what he is saying is false. Anyone that adds or takes away from the Word of God is just asking for it. Do you think because a person talks about Jesus that makes him for real? All of these people use the name of Jesus but their hearts are into the supernatural and pumping up their own delusional minds. Bob Jones is a false prophet he has so many false prophecy's it's amazing anyone would listen to him.
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 I understand where your coming from. Remember there is nothing wrong with the supernatural.Jesus says that heaven is at hand for us.I'm not going to point fingers at people too,if your wrong about Bob Jones and he is a man of god then it all falls back on you.If you are truly a born again christian then you would not point fingers and accuse.Instead pray for the man,for he is god creation.Jesus loves him as much as he loves you.
Tomekwinxs 2 years ago
We are exhorted to expose the workers of darkness. I have seen so much of this, as a child of God for forty plus years and I've seen the ruined lives. When I point a finger as you say; it's done out of love for the body of Christ! Someone needs to stand up and tell the truth. I pray for Bob Jones soul, and I'm sure God loves him but what he is doing is an abomination. People that fall for this stuff will fall for the anti-christ! I will continue to expose false prophets. The word of God now!
gsong123 2 years ago
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. Eph 5:11
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 Okay I look into Bob Jones and build my case for him before I take your word.
Tomekwinxs 2 years ago
I don't want anyone to take my word for anything...it's whether or not it lines up with Gods word. All I ask is that people use discernment before falling for false teachers. Check them out, ask God to reveal the truth. Many are falling away and being deceived by these people.
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 can you show me documents for this case?
Tomekwinxs 2 years ago
Just google Bob Jones you don't need documentation, just listen to him. Check out how many false prophecies he's given out on you tube alone. According to the word if a prophet is not 100% acurate they are false prophets plain and simple. In the old testament they were taken out and stoned. After what he did to the women you would think he's had enough shame to get out of the public eye but he continues on.. unrepentant and still deceiving people.
gsong123 2 years ago
don't worry brother. This proves they don't read the word. The Bible says that if a prophet prophecies and it doesn't happen, He is a false prophet period! Jeremiah was tested by God when He called him as a boy Jeremiah 1. Prophets were believed false if they were not 100 % accurate. We have all fallen short of God's glory. I think these guys do have dreams however, they are sometimes twisted because they don't know the word. If they read the word, then they can rebuke false truth
hector771000 2 years ago
I will give you a tip to a Godfearing man, Justin Peters, i just received his DVD "A call for Discernment" frightening, but so true! If you want to hear truth about where the church is going, listen to this man!
You can find him here on the tube as well.
Leeviten 2 years ago
Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Psalm 71:13
May my accusers perish in shame; may those who want to harm me be covered with scorn and disgrace.
77re777troy77 2 years ago
77, here's one for you!
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children. HSA 4:6
Bob Jones is as heretical as they come! He is not only a pervert but a false prophet leading thousands astray. I exhort you to pray for discernment.
gsong123 2 years ago
why do you say that he is a pervert?
ryanmcfarland555 2 years ago
Anyone that would have women get naked in his office so he could lay hands on them and pray for them is a pervert. Using his "spiritual authority" to take advantage of women is despicable! If you don't believe me google it, the original article that appeared in the media is probably still out there. This moral collapse is well known even to his followers and was not an isolated thing, there were several women abused by him. Strange why women love him so much!?!?!? Bill Clinton syndrome???
gsong123 2 years ago
@gsong123 media is a controlled environment . u must not beleive the media but believe the truth that God puts in your heart, than u will know what truth really is.
missionaryoffaith 2 years ago
I believe the word of God..this stuff is extra biblical at best. The Holy spirit indeed shows us how we should go. Bob Jones is a total heritic. His so called prophecy's are huge failures, not to mention his perversion. You will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Far cry from the meaningless garbage put out by the new cults.
gsong123 2 years ago
@missionaryoffaith Amen to that. The media is a terrible place for people to get their news about the people of God.
erentheca 1 year ago
It's been clearly documented that Bob Jones was asked to leave the early Vineyard church because he had repeatedly asked women to remove their clothing in order to receive a "word from the Lord". Bob's own actions have laid a history that judges him itself so no judgement is being offered by anyone else.
He supports Todd Bentley...another adulterous liar. Todd's affair with his intern and live in nanny was in full swing before the Lakeland outpouring began. God had better choices in men to use.
omegaguitars 2 years ago
Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Revelation 1:5
Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler
77re777troy77 2 years ago
1 Peter 1:2
who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?
Proverbs 11:30
The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise.
77re777troy77 2 years ago
This man is an unwashed reprobate. Shut UP you dirty old heretic...you couldn't even discern the enumerated heresies, false prophecies, false sign and wonder that accompanied Todd Bentley.
colderbythelake 2 years ago
The bible is clear that there will be many false prophets.
But is also clear about desiring spiritual gifts!
The modern American Church is very weak.
Jesus said clearly that there should be signs following us- you all know the scripture.
For the most part, there are few signs.
My goodness... it is my opinion that the Church just voted in a man who loves abortion!!
What has happened to the Church?
betz7777 2 years ago
There is certainly disagreement on whether BJ is a real or a FP.
What did he say that offended anyone?
One thing certainly agree with him on is that the Church needs to rise up. We are not living up to what we have already attained.
Many Churches invite the 'World' right in, and therefore most professing Christians live like the world- some even worse!
The Chuch needs something, thats for sure! Instead of being a light, we are mostly irrelavent.
This world needs a savior!
betz7777 2 years ago
Bob Jones seems mentally ill to me - he is very creepy - I mean come on, look at his eyes - they are like black pits!!!!
crazychica1972 2 years ago
Bob Jones is a man of God who died and went to Heaven. Jesus sent him back because it wasn't his time to go and he wanted Bob to help lead the church in winning a billion souls to Christ. The new sword of the Spirit that Bob is refering to is called the Faith of God. (Mark 11:22-25)
memast5 2 years ago
A billion souls? He better get busy because he's not getting any younger and as far as I can tell young people are becoming harder and harder to reach.
We need discernment people!!!!!!!
We need discernment like never before!!!!!! Bob Jones and his ilk are leading people to hell because they have no discernment and no respect for Gods word! You want to move in the super natural? Start by asking God for discernment! Then read the word and believe it!
gsong123 2 years ago
A new Sword of the Spirit that will kill us all
sky9no9longer9blue9 2 years ago
I know this sword Bob Jones is talking about, it isa flamming sword given to us by Jesus himself.
LoneMonk1 2 years ago
Got any scripture to back it up with?
gsong123 2 years ago
2 Corinthians 3, 12-18, "Since this new covenant gives us such confidence, we can be very bold...And this veil can be removed only by believing in Christ...And as the Spirit of the Lord works within us, we become more and more like him and reflect his glory even more." You must believe and ask God to remove the veil. If God grants this to you, then you will begin to understand.
LoneMonk1 2 years ago
This scripture speaks of the veil that covers those that can't understand the gospel, in particular the Jews. There is absolutely nothing in these scriptures suggesting a veil removed so one can see flaming swords or anything else. This is what false prophets do in twisting scripture. If you read on it even speaks of handling the word of God deceitfully. I'm sorry but Bob Jones is a false prophet and a heretic, there is nothing but extra-Biblical nonsense in his "teachings"
gsong123 2 years ago
By the way, haven't you ever noticed how he never has a Bible? With all the warnings Paul gave of false doctrine and false prophets, I would be a lot more discerning with people like Bob Jones. If you love Jesus you will love his word the 2R1 Gods word is to be revered, when we don't... the door is open to all kinds of deception. Bob Jones is a proven false prophet and will lead many to eternal separation from God.
gsong123 2 years ago
I really don't know anything about Bob JONES. I have had a dream where I met Jesus on the Jewish Day of Attonement, similar to what he says, but Jesus gave me very specific orders to pray for all the children of Israel. Jesus demands that we work hard to save others. What ever you think of Bob Jones, don't loose sight of your Christian mission in this world.
LoneMonk1 2 years ago
Are you saying the Bible never uses the image of a sword??? Are you saying that Jesus is forbidden to use a sword in spiritual battle? Are you saying that God is dead and that he can not actually speak to people anymore? When Jesus died on the cross, does he not now have authority over the flaming sword which guards the garden of eden? Will Jesus not baptize us in fire? Will Jesus not use a sword in the book of revelation? Is Jesus forbidden to speak to me in dreams?
LoneMonk1 2 years ago
Your questions: 1) NO 2) NO 3) NO 4)YES 5} YES 6) YES 7) NO
I'll ask you a couple,
Did Paul and Jesus both warn us of FP's in the last days? Did he not warn us about tolerating sound doctrine? Did Jesus himself warn us about being deceived?
Does the Bible say "you will know them by their fruit"? Did Paul warn of those preaching another Jesus? Did Paul say hold to the traditions taught by him? I love the gift's, but I love God's word more. God and his word>the 2R1
gsong123 2 years ago
I love you Bob Jones
lyndseyscip 2 years ago
Do you know the guy is a pervert? Do you care that he had women get naked in his office so he could lay hands on them for prophecy? Do you care? How can you love someone that has absolutely abused people that trusted him? After getting caught he didn't even have the decency to repent, how can someone follow such a despicable person?
gsong123 2 years ago
Was this given before or after Todd Bentley kicked him in the head?
gsong123 3 years ago
Was this given before or after Todd Bentley kicked him in the face!
gsong123 3 years ago
ROFL!!
crazychica1972 2 years ago
a new sword of the Spirit? huh? the Word is the Word is the Word is the Word. period. there are NO "new" revelations or "swords" being "released" by "God"...this is false. the Scripture is complete, the faith ONCE delivered to the saints. period.
parakeethands 3 years ago
don't you know that if you make judgments like that , thats what you either are or will become ?
Hillbillykid2000 3 years ago
I don't know if you were referring to me or not but the Lord tells us that "of those on the outside, God is the judge... but those on the inside (of the church) you are the judges".
God never forbids us from judging righteously about false teaching or false prophecy. The Lord warns us against judging hypocritically. And He expects us to have discernment about the Word. Doing your homework on Bob Jones and his false, "manifest sons of God" doctrine pretty much sums up the matter. So do it.
Cooperpal 2 years ago
mr jones you are telling us what you think the lord is saying ie your interpretation I think myself that jesus just simply lived and walked among those whos hope was in need of his maybe america is n need of dollars in the name of jesus
anthfantastic 3 years ago
^The SWORD OF THE SPIRIT BOB comes to separate the wheat from the chaff for the lord is the army bob and walks in the mantel that only he/she can wear this you will see before the end 2008 for his chosen one willk bear witness
anthfantastic 3 years ago
Satan's chosen one, Bob Jones, already bore false witness of Todd Bentley at Lakeland. He false prophesied the "greatest time of this end time Revival would be from June 22 to July 22!" But of course, because Bobby is listening to the antichrist spirit THIS WAS PRECISELY when TODD BENTLEY's marriage fell apart due to drunkeness and adultery and the "revival" flopped. Bob never talks about sin because he still hasn't repented for prophesying over a naked mom/daughter @ the Anaheim Vineyard.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
It fell apart a bit later ;)
And, who are we to judge it? Wasn't David a man of God? Yes he was, but he commited adultary. Eliah was a man of God, but when he got attacked he ran and hid himself. Peter was a man of God, but he betrayed Jesus. Who are we to judge these things?
Maybe the Sword of the Spirit is spiritual battle, and authority.
God bless you, don't want any discussions by the way.
RuubW 3 years ago
Who are we to judge? Well, Paul tells us in Corinthians that "of those on the outside of the Church, God is the judge; of those on the inside, we are the judges." We must protect the sheep from false teaching and false doctrines. Too bad you don't want any "discussions" because discussions like this may save souls from the coming judgment of God on those who "no longer love the truth" -- those on whom He promises He WILL send a "strong delusion". Jones is teaching the end time delusion.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Dear Cooperpal,
Discussion brings seperation, and God doesn't want seperation. Especially among His children. That's why.
I suggest you look at Bob's past - he's been through a lot with the Lord. Incredible things, he's an honest man.
And Bob doesn't teach the 2012 lie ;)
God blesseth thou
Ruub
RuubW 3 years ago
No, actually the Word says that "iron sharpens iron" and we are to "give every man a reason for the faith within us". Discussion does not bring separation, it brings Truth and the Light. You do understand that this is witchcraft and superstition taught by Jones? Do your homework. They teach metaphors not understanding. If we do not understand our salvation (which we only have by hearing the Word preached) then we cannot wear the Helmet of Salvation. Do your homework on Jones, please.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
P.S. Actually you are wrong about Lakeland. Todd Bentley has not seen his children or wife since July. He filed for divorce in July. Bob Jones is a false prophet who listens to untested and undiscerned "angels" -- not unlike Joseph Smith of the Mormons. He adds to the word of God. He is a liar and AntiChrist. Do your homework for your own sake and your family's sake on Jones/Cain/Hamon. Scary stuff, brother.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Finally, please refrain from Old Testament ideas in the dispensation of Pentecost. That's a hook these Elijah Listers use to deceive the flock. There no longer is a need for Old Testament style prophets. The Holy Spirit, a better thing, has come. Before the Cross, there was no Spirit freely given. Jezebel in the NT is a spirit of false prophesy and sexual immorality... just like Bentley, Cain and Jones. We cannot be in agreement with them or we are "tolerating Jezebel" ala Rev. 2:20.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
sorry cooperpal posted a reply as dacookson instead of anthfantastic (pressed the wrong button i share a computer
dacookson 3 years ago
Hey, anth -- thanks for the head's up. The liars of Lakeland:
Bill Hamon, Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, Paul Cain, Rick Joyner, Bob Jones Cindy Jacobs Chuck Pierce are leading the church into the great End Time Delusion that God promises He will send on those who no longer love the truth. Bless you. There is no end times revival. Only Apostasy. This is why God says: "When the Son of Man returns to the earth, will He still find faith?" Bob Jones is anti Christ and so is C Peter Wagner & friends
Cooperpal 3 years ago
in one sense jesus has become big business in america and in order to sustaine the business they need these so called revivals the problem is it steals from the rest of us the fact that we all need revival so what do we mean by revival 'take me out of this place lord it hurts and so those who say they are their for us in the name of jesus lead us to believe that they are the way to revival when in fact they need it themselves. marketing! sometimes a voice in the wildeness gets heard, keep at it.
anthfantastic 3 years ago
its refreshing to read that someone else is cautious when it comes to those bearing false witness in the name of !americas desire to lead the way in all things as well as phrophecy. these people do seem to get carried away with their own self belief which worries me greatly todd bentley was one such. sometimes the loudest voice gets heard and so it is in america My heart tells me that you too need truth keep seeking and keep questioning bob has fooled many but thankfully not you take caare
dacookson 3 years ago
Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. Colossians 4
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 1 Peter 3
skydiver777 3 years ago
Bob Jones is a male Jezebel. He never talks about the sin or the Cross. His prophecies never come true...
... when did Jesus talk about a paradigm shift? The only paradigm shift that happened was on the Cross.
If we cannot discern false prophets and false prophecies now HOW will we discern THE False Prophet who will usher in the Anti Christ?
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Thank you for your concern, but don't see what's wrong about what Bob is saying here?
No need to talk about sin, that was a part of our old lives, long gone and buried.
Thank you for your faith in Christ, blessings from Daddy.
RuubW 3 years ago
Thank you for replying. "We are in the time of the release of the Sword of the Spirit"???? Even Bob's insane opening statement makes no sense. The Sword of the Spirit is a metaphor for the power of the Word of God to uncover hidden emotions and sin (finer than a two edged sword). So what is Bobby saying here? Nothing. We've been imbued with power from on high since Pentecost, the promise that even the Old Testament Prophets "longed for but did not see". & sin is always the issue, bro.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Thanks also for your "blessings from Daddy" but you do know that Jesus commanded us to not call anyone "Father" but our Father in heaven? Yeah. So all that "spiritual father" stuff is completely unbiblical, according to Jesus. You need to show yourself approved - Bob Jones Rick Joyner Bill Hamon et all are false teachers, into taking physical dominion ala William Branham in the last days. Bob is just as nuts as Branham. He is an apostate and a spiritual Mormon who adds to the Word.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Until Bob Jones repents of Baal worship, i.e. prophesying over naked women while molesting them in his church office, something that his buddy Paul Cain also did (prophesying falsely over men while sodomizing them) sin remains a BIG issue in Bob Jones life. And since when is false teaching & false doctrine not a sin? Jesus warns us against this. Apostates do not go to heaven, brother. And "a good tree cannot produce bad fruit". Jesus warned us of men like Bob Jones & the End Time Delusion.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
ICHIN,
I am very aware of the schemes and wiles of the Devil and ANYONE OF US can be deceived at anytime. 1/3 of the Angels were deceived so how hard is it for Satan to deceive Us?
Todd is going to have to do a Whole Lot more to be SEPERATED from the Love of Christ than for Teaching a few unusual Doctrines and Personal Experiences!
I am Persuaded NEITHER Death,nor Life,Angels,nor Principalities,nor Powers
shall be able to separate Us from the Love of God,which is In Christ our Lord!
skydiver777 3 years ago
What a liar, what a deceptive mother fucker!
Todd Bentley (the fraud) got caught fucking his female staff member and has stepped down from preaching at the phony "Revival"...
He wants to divorce his wife now.
At least he wasn't molesting another little boy this time, like he did in Canada.
What a creep. They all eventually fall because it is just ONE BIG LIE and you can't sustain sinfulness and not get caught.
LOL... so much for your "signs and wonders" asshole.
nododon 3 years ago
Bob Jones is a false prophet. This is new age witchcraft. All these people speak swell words. They don't talk about sin, repentance and belief in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Instead they talk about new revelations that are far from sound biblical doctrine. Can we stick to scriptures people and stop trusting the in the new revelations from man. We are not called to trust man. We are called to trust God and HIs Word.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
hey... im just interested in learning about how other people think and how they go about ataining their beleifs. im just getting into all the weird(signs miricles healings etc.)stuff but from the little i have seen, the reason i think they dont just go0 around preaching john 3:16 is cause thats for those who are lost.i dont really beleive that all these prophets and whatnot are out souly to save souls but more to help teach to edify ourselves in christ
tercelkisor 3 years ago
Unfortunately, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley and the New Apostolic Reformation preach another Gospel. tercelkisor, don't follow signs and wonders. Follow Jesus Christ only. Believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ and don't embrace dominionism or kingdom now doctrine. These doctrines refuse to aknowledge Jesus Christ's sole role in setting up the Kingdom of God. Read Matt 7 and study it. It basically says there will be many peopple who conduct signs and wonders going to hell.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
i think there are different calling to different people in gods kingdom.(some primarily so lead sould to god and others to do other stuff like healings) i like that you question what you hear. sometimes i find myself getting drawn into things without confirming it first cause i desire so much the power of god thats displayed with the saints of old. but just think that if it was someone 2000 years ago doing this there wouldnt be near as much critisizm from the church.. whats your take on this
tercelkisor 3 years ago
Hi tercelkisor, I appreciate your humility in approaching the signs and wonders movement. These prophets and apostle come preaching another Gospel. When the apostles did signs and wonders it accompanied the preaching of Gospel. The Gospel is most important message out there. What if John (some name i made up) gets healed but doesn't believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ? He got healed in this life but will face the wrath God for all eternity. THe healing meant nothing in all enterity...
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
How did Todd get one million people converted to Christianity without Preaching the Gospel?
Is this the way you have been taught to RESTORE a man back into FELLOWSHIP?God's Word says,"RESTORE YOUR BROTHER,in a spirit of MEEKNESS Not JUDGEment;-) Gal 6
Jesus told Us,Many will come in My Name saying I am of Christ.I am a Christian! Are you a Real Christian?
Mature Christians are not manipulative Gossipmongers? Unless you are a Carnal Christian? Then we know how you walk,in the Flesh!
skydiver777 3 years ago
skydiver777, wait a minute! You or Todd do not have the authority to declared someone saved. Only God can declare someone saved but we can look at the fruit. I am glad you mentioned fruit so lets look at some. Todd ministered another Gospel. He said: "God told me to preach the angels instead of Jesus Christ". Rotten fruit. Here is another fruit --> the blattent violence (kicking people in the face and etc) and telling people that did it because he had to be obedient to God. Blasphemy.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
Hold on Now! You do not have the Authority to Declare someone UNSAVED and UNFORGIVEN! Hippocrite? lols
skydiver777 3 years ago
Jesus said: " you will know them by their fruits". I am not declaring them (or you) to be unsaved. I am looking at fruit and that is all I will do. Look at the fruit. Some of most ungodly, blamphemous stuff I have ever seen but everyone is saying what a wonderful move of God. You know the majority of those people (or people sitting in church) are on their way to hell. Read Matt 7. Just because most of the people are saying this is a wonderful move of God doesn't make it a move of God...
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
ITCHING, Everything I have been typing is about the FUTURE OF TODD BENTLEY!Not the past.I am More Aware of Everything Todd did than you!
However, I CHOOSE TO FORGIVE AND RESTORE. And WRESTLE AGAINST Spiritual Wickedness and NOT BRETHREN!!
I have typed that Blasphemy against the Spirit of God is the ONLY sin that is UNFORGIVEABLE!
Todd is Being FORGIVEN and RESTORED BY the Spirit of Jesus! Read Revelation 2 and 3.
Be Imitators of God, as dear children; And Walk in Love, Eph 5 ;-)
skydiver777 3 years ago
So Rev 2 and 3 tells me that Todd is being stored by the Spirit of Jesus. You don't know that at all. Stop speaking about things you know nothing about. You or I cannot declare that Todd is being restored. Only God can. Maybe you are more aware of Todd's heresy than me. That may be so. So what did you do to expose it while it was going on. Did you expose it? Stop listening to false prophets like Kim Clement too. Go to the scriptures. We are done here, sir.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
Itchin, You say, "God has been teaching you about MERCY for the past month?" lols!You need to study what He has been Teaching you?
We have exposed the deceivers! God waited because that is what He did in the Episitles. He allowed the Leaders of the Church to Work things out. Acts 15; study that; 1 Cor 5; About the brother committing fornication. The Leaders took care of the Problem and He was RESTORED to fellowship in 2 Cor 2! I understand many of you are Bible Students and learning. ;-)
skydiver777 3 years ago
Why laugh of loud? Are you a bible student and still learning? You make it sound like you went to Fuller Sem. or some college and now you are a master. Bentley needs restoration from someone without any afiliation with Freshfire, toronto or the new apostolic reformation (NAR). They are the roots this false annointing and false doctrine. If they say he is restored I will have a hard time believinng it because all those movements are modern day deceptions. I have been in NAR and I left.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
You are Absolutely right!
skydiver777 3 years ago
We are supposed to mark them that bring division among the brethren contrary to the faith. Todd has not repented for his false teaching. Therefore I, along with others will continue to expose this false teacher and movement, period. HOw come Todd can teach false doctrine for so long without the chastisement of the Lord? Tell me that. He who the Lord loveth, he also chastise (Heb 12). The Lord has been teaching me mercy for the last mo. By the mercy of God people expose this man.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
I help expose this man to bring light in the midst of darkest of darkness. It is my prayer that these people get out of this false movement (i.e. apostasy). I don't care if they are getting healed. The new revelations and words of knowledge they are receivinng contradicts the scriptures, period. Lord said he would send a strong delusion to those who did not have a love for the truth. We are still in a sinful body but by the power of the Holy Spirit we can go from glory to glory in the Lord.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
;-) Have you Studied Todd Bentley's 376 page Testimony? No? I rest my case!
I walk in the wisdom of the Spirit of Jesus and Abba Father who lives inside of me,for over 40 years.
I look at the whole picture and not just a few pieces of the PUZZLE of someones life.I Observe from the Beginning to the End and the Judgment Seat of Christ.
Study 1 Cor 3, 2 Cor 5
You have No Idea what the WHOLE Gospel is that the Apostle Paul Teaches? Do you?
RESTORE a MAN not just a brother. Gal 6 ;-)
skydiver777 3 years ago
So many of you armature Bible students Misinterpret 2 Thess 2. Taking one or two verses out of context and trying to prove there is a strong delusion now.
AFTER THE RESTRAINER IS TAKEN AWAY the Strong delusion is Coming FROM GOD on those who had the chances to repent and did not!
The word for Apostasy in 2 Thess 2 does not modify a noun in that Scripture so the interpretation of that passage means a Radical Departure of something mentioned in that paragraph. Our gathering together to Him!
skydiver777 3 years ago
The word healed means saved,delivered and made completely whole.You don't care about their healing? That is surprizing to learn! How many seekers will read your message and see the"love of Jesus"from another hypocrite?
You can post Scriptures all day but if those Truths have not become written on your heart and shared with Mercy and Compassion then they are doing more damage to seekers of Truth and to the reputation of the Body of Christ.Put into Practice All of the Words of the Lord.James 1
skydiver777 3 years ago
I see what you are saying about compassion but where do you get your definition for healing? Healing doesn't mean what you say it means. There are multitudes of saved people out there with afflictions (whether physical or spiritual). I am more concerned about their salvation. What if a person is (supposedly) healed by someone operating under a demonic spirit and that person never gets saved cause they only came for the healing? Is that person better off now going to hell?
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
Itchin,never say never unless you have studied what you are trying to teach someone about.
The defination for healing I use is from the Greek word Sozo. Search it out. Wherever you read the words, whole, heal, save, delivered, etc the word Sozo is usually the Greek word. It also means much more.
I have studied 100s of words in the Hebrew and Greek and it helps me when I write songs and develop teachings.
Whosoever calls on the Name of the Lord will be Sozo(ed)! Healed, saved, etc
skydiver777 3 years ago
Sky,
I appreciate your scholarship and earnest desire to search the meanings of words. The meaning of words is very important. You are right about one of the meanings of being saved is healed but that is not the primary meaning. The point am I trying to make is this: 1) What if they get healed but they never come to saving faith. What was that healing worth to them in hell? 2) You know that Satan is coming with all lying signs and wonders too. The pt: we follow Jesus Chist not healings.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
It is the Holy Spirits Ministry to Convict of Sin,Righteousness and Judgment!I plant and water the Seeds of His Word and He is the only one who can give the Increase.1 Cor3 I let God be God and try not to worry because worry leads to sin and Judging.I am not worried about satan. I have the Spirit of Truth living inside of me! The Spirit of Abba Father; Matt 10:20; and the Spirit of Jesus!John 14:23 So, how much power lives in Us? The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in Us! Selah
skydiver777 3 years ago
The meaning of a Greek word like sozo means whatever the context of the sentence is talking about. Healing..... it means healing. deliverance....sozo means deliverance.....simple as that. but in some sentences it means more than one defination just like our english words. LET GOD BE GOD. I will be dave with God inside of me...
skydiver777 3 years ago
Also skydiver, stop listening to false prophet Kim Clement. I look at your youtube homepage and I see hypocracy too. You Love thte things of this world too much. See I and II John.
Once again, I thank you for rebuking me on some issues.
-ITCHING
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
Itchin,Learn Not to Judge what a person does until you know the facts!I set up bait for the secular crowd. You should see my Profile at Paltalk.Under Interests I have every worldly name I could find to witness to the secular people.My Profile comes up when someone seaches for a word.Then, they click on my Profile and Visit.Teachings are typed up under each of my pictures and sites to visit with testimonies about heaven,hell, miracles, heaings,etc.My profile gets opened up over 1000 times a week!
skydiver777 3 years ago
You want more fruit? Here is more, Todd has been seeing one of his Freshfire staff members in secret while he was supposedly healing people. What about his demonic (I mean literally) tatoos that he got after he got saved? He claimed God told him to get the tatoos too? He is not a brother. He needs to get saved, period. I am glad you mentioned Matt 7. It is one my favorite passages. Matt 7 is talking people like Todd, John Crowder and the New Apostolic Reformation.....
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
.....these people pose as christians but they are not. God never knew them. I am not gossiping at all. I am only helping others expose a deceiver that is bringing in damnable heresies. I hate that so many were and still are deceive by this man and this revival. we expose this man because 1) he is causing devision among the brethren contrary to the faith and 2) leading people to hell, period. skydiver, I guess you believe in the carnal christian doctrine which is poor interp. of Scripture.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
skydiver, you need to walk in the spirit. How can you be so deceived about Bentley and this false revival unless you are walking in the flesh. The Holy Spirit inside me is grieved when I hear blasphemous things coming out of Bentley's mouth. Now does this mean I have no sin. NO. I do sin. We all do, but we are not continually living in sin. I think you are confused about this carnal christian doctrine. JEsus Christ says apostasy would take place b4 his second coming not revival!
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
;-) Have you Studied Todd Bentley's 376 page Testimony? No? I rest my case!
I walk in the wisdom of the Spirit of Jesus and Abba Father who lives inside of me,for over 40 years.
I look at the whole picture and not just a few pieces of the PUZZLE of someones life.I Observe from the Beginning to the End and the Judgment Seat of Christ.Study 1 Cor 3, 2 Cor 5...
You have No Idea what the WHOLE Gospel is that the Apostle Paul Teaches? Do you?
RESTORE a MAN not just a brother. Gal 6 ;-)
skydiver777 3 years ago
sky, I don't need to study his 376 pg testimony. That is not scripture. I will not question you salvation cause I don't know you. You don't know me either but you can still question. You see from the beginning to the end? God can only see from the beginning to the end. YOu can't. Even though I may be young in Christ GOd has got me up to speed about understanding the Gospel. I see that you may not understand the full Gospel either because you love false doctrine that Todd teaches.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
sky, did you think it was great when Todd said: "The HOly Spirit said "Todd, Kick her in the face". Did you like when Todd said "I baptize you in the name of The Father, Son and Bam." if you think this revival is of one and only God, everlasting, then it is you who doesn't understand The Gospel of Jesus Christ!!! Do you know that they are praying that God would kill violently anyone that is against the lakeland revival? Do you know that? IF you agree with them you are deceived.
FleeFROMItchingEARS 3 years ago
Amen winteral. We will not deviate from His word.
xXMascaraTearsXx 3 years ago
Todd is the Devil! well lets see! Jesus now uses Todd (the Devil) to bring in 1000000 souls then heals them b4 he gets the flock, then the Devil ( Todd) glorifies The King of Glory and the resurrection, delivers thousands more ( from himself) and his demons,
This is world history folks! The Devil has been converted! has repented and is now on the path to the Kingdom with his angels to boot! man! We love you Todd (The Devil) keep up the path to glory that leads to Jesus!
ravenwolf789 3 years ago
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Matthew 16:4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and there will be no sign given to it, except the sign of the prophet Jonah." He left them, and departed.
PulpitPimpsExposed 3 years ago
Thats awsome,God is huge.People try to find joy in the world.The only place u can find it is in Jesus.People get angrey with God and dont think he is there,and they say"where are You!,"But God is saying where are you my child!When people cover theirselves with sin God cant be apart of their lives,that is why he sent Jesus Christ to die for our sins,so that he could be with us.All u have to do is ask God for forgivness for ur sins and turn away from the darkness that pull u away from Gods arms.
vlcmstnsct 3 years ago
This is the third witness to something God wants me to do. I don't really know to much about this prophet but, God knows! Amazingly today he has used him in the two things He is teaching equipping and asking me to do, the first: God is teaching me in practical ways How to Love , sounds silly but not for me I'm very grateful and in awe for the hope:I can learn it! So his testimony about heaven was key on this. Second He wants me to produce art, hearing this prophetic Word was set up by the Lord.
malumother2008 3 years ago 2
Bob Jones is an awsome mann of God,who simpily obeys our Loving God.This isnt a revival that is taking place, revivals last 2 maybe 3 days. This is the Glory of God and its here to stay. God is using Bob as a vesel to help the world know who God really is!!! Look around people!!!people are being healed,people are standing up from wheelchairs, people r being raised from the dead! and its all the power of our sweet, loving God
vlcmstnsct 3 years ago
Revivals last 2 to 3 days; is this truly revival if those same people don't experience a newness in their heart to want to spread the Gospel of Jesus? I have witnessed many people be all emotional during a "so-called" revival and then less than a month later they are back to their old ways.
Rawk4Life 3 years ago
Wow, another six month old post about Lakeland.
Do you get it now? "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit". All our warnings about Jones and Bentley could have been heeded and maybe the church would have been truly prophetically seeing the great financial disaster right after Lakeland. Ooops! Bob Jones didn't see that coming, now did he?
He is a liar and Anti Christ. Read your BIBLE, brother. Lakeland was a fraud.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Get over yourself. You do not see God nor hear him. I suggest you listen to these words so you won't be in sin win the Lord returns. This is true wisdom of God. You clearly do not know the Lord's heart. Stop judging before God judges you.
micahturnbo 2 years ago
Uh, you just "judged" me...
Anyway, I have shown myself approved and done the research on the spirits that Bob Jones has been listening to. He is AntiChrist: he fails to put his "angels" (read: demons) to the test in the same way Joseph Smith did not.
Bob Jones does not "tremble at His Word"... therefore God will send a strong delusion. Disprove me by doing the research and showing yourself approved while there is still daytime. You do understand the Joel 2 Army is not His church?
Cooperpal 2 years ago
P.S. The Lord tells us to "test the spirits"... the only way to do that is to discern and judge a person's words and especially a self proclaimed "prophet's" words like Bob Jones... Paul tells us that " of those on the outside of the church, God is the judge... but those on the inside, WE are the judges... Charismatics get mixed up in the problem of judging hypocritically, discernment and judging righteously with the Word. Don't be confused, bro.
Cooperpal 2 years ago
he does not look to convince he knows what he is saying. i think i will just stick to the bible and let it be a light unto my path.
kamleshrc 3 years ago
Amen, praise god kamleshrc. Meditate on the word of God day and night and do not deviate from it. Joshua 1
xXMascaraTearsXx 3 years ago
Amen celovek001,
Speak the Truth my brother. I will live by the words of the Bible as revealed by God Himself and no one else. The Word of God and the message it presents is the means which men are saved, lives are to be lived, and faith is to be maintained. I am tired of the masses salivating for signs and wonders like pagans... what happened to faith like a child?
winteral7 3 years ago 2
Just at this moment in time Bob Jones and Todd Bentley are being used by God to initiate the most amazing revival this world has ever known with millions being able to see what is happening online. Thousands of people are receiving Jesus as their saviour and hundreds of people are receving healing and many creative miracles are taking place. By their fruits you shall know them.
fr33info4u 3 years ago
Wow. Great to read your post now seven months later.
Hope you see that what people were trying to tell you about Bentley and Bob Jones back then were true. Jones and Bentley and Joyner and Paul Cain are demonized lunatics. And sexually immoral baal worshippers who molest people while they prophesy over them.
Lakeland was the start of the End Time Delusion.
You need to show yourself approved and do your homework on these frauds as they try to claim the holy name of Christ.
Cooperpal 3 years ago
Bob Jones is talking of a heavenly realm. Bob is wanting people to see things from a heavenly perspective. On the same basis that Jesus wanted us to consider when He told us in the Lord's prayer "on earth as it is in heaven".
fr33info4u 3 years ago
Remember Paul was caught up into the third heaven. Many people have been taken to heaven in visions and dreams and its all biblical. Blessings.
fr33info4u 3 years ago
literally, none of that make any sense.
ttrappe 4 years ago
Checkout the bible. Jesus is Lord. God bless u.
ZakiusUK 4 years ago
Amen..! That's exact what I experience for over 10 years now.
kcenhguor 4 years ago