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  • Clough cameltoe @38.

  • Yorkshire tele. Miss that channel.

  • Clough had the last laugh..........Revie's career ended in disgrace, Brian won back to back European Cups

    Everyone remembers Clough.....its mostly just Leeds Utd fans who remember Revie

  • the damned united

  • Cloughie was duped into this interview by the programme.

    Look at both managers careers after this 'interview'

    The slime ball Revie v The mens manager...

    These days we have

    King Kenneth v Sir Alex F

    Alan Pardew v Chris Hughton

    Alex MCleish v Martin ONeill Riveting stuff!

    The manager Leeds have now is hugely respected. S Grayson. Forest S Cotterill is making his mark very slowly and Derby's Cloughie junior is also coming into hid own now.

  • @CalamityCameron S.Grayson. He didnt last 2 long after your comment did he haha!

    Warnock will save the day no doubt!

  • The best video on Youtube

    

  • Were Brian Clough and Don Revie 1960-70's Pep Guardiola and José Mourinho? If so, who was the then Guardiola and who was "the Mourinho" in that context?

  • Both of them were great managers, but Clough was a league ahead of Revie. What i'd have given to see some of the teams he created and the football he played.

    No dirty play, no arguing with the ref, just honest players playing some of the best football people had seen at the time. Don of course could also do that, but Dirty Leeds had that name for a reason.

    Regardless of that, how often is it that you see such an amazing debate between huge characters in the game like this on tv? Fantastic.

  • I am a bradford city fan, and even I can see that cluogh lost the reigns at leeds.

  • This video is a good lesson of how to be candid and consistent on any debate. Thank you Brian.

  • Really enjoyable video. Thanks! Interesting to read about Frank Gray. Cloughie was right about Mick Bates, who suffered with injuries until he was sold in 1976. Duncan McKenzie and John O'Hare were good signings also, judging by their later careers. Clough seems the brighter individual, but not necessarily the nicer guy.

  • brian clough was a very clever man! true legend!!!

  • Gosh, i sooooo miss straight talking honest men.

    Political correctness has destroyed everything and rendered modern people as parodies of real people.

  • @sidvidkid It's not political correctness, it's public relations and spin. The two are very different.

  • @MrHennessy30

    Well its debateable, i would call PC, PR and spin doctoring all variations on the same theme, the theme is called lies. But in direct response to your point - PR and spin is what comes from public figures. The point i was making is that PC has destroyed how normal people interact with eachother.But i take your point...

    Interesting name you have

  • Revie definitely took the high road in the interview.

  • Little Billy!! hahaha

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  • Don Revie said that Frank Gray was 'potentially a World Class player'; Cloughie indicates that he doubts this.

    Ironic really, that Cloughie then went on to sign Frank Gray for Notts Forest and win the European Cup.

  • for me best manager ever...an im a pool fan..him an shankly could have taken over the world:O..ur not dead brian ur spirit lives on..the fact im sayn it at 24 proves u did sumthing right...so hey briannn..hows gods seat feel?:P

  • this video has no dislikes, that really says it all

  • @HXfoyboy in the last two weeks there has been one twat. Clough was a complete legend.

  • fantastic man.... ( i'm italian, so i should not approciate english football, but i must admit that managers like brian clough change football definitely )

  • @Brodericks27 Why shouldn't you appreciate english football? Disliking other countries national teams I understand, but Clough was a league manager.

    And by the way, all football is merely a slight mutation of English football.

  • @icecool1065 which itself is a mutation of what the romans used to do and so on..

  • @joqqeman ?

  • controversy like this was good back then, but now with people like tevez who are just money grabbing selfish mugs. it sucks.

  • Don Revie says that Johhny Giles should have taken over the job instead of Clough because Giles "knew the players, knew the system, knew everything about Leeds" - but is that enough to make someone a good, winning manager? And why should Revie's successor carry on exactly the way Revie did things? This sounds more like Revie (understandably) keen to safeguard his legacy.

  • @sternumagnum  - It's called continuity - It happened at Liverpool with Paisley after Shanks left,and you saw their benefit -In 1974 Leeds were a bigger European name and more feared than Liverpool were - The Backroom Staff & Boot Room was in place and had been established over the years,it just needed continuity - With the pedigree of players at that time at Leeds,no top class British player in "74 would have dreamed of turning them down (including the likes of Dalglish & Souness)

  • @steakandsid paisley was already assistant so doesnt compare. Giles was simply a player

  • @TeamOfThe80s So What was Dalglish then before he took over Liverpool and continued their run of success ?

  • @steakandsid fair point.

  • @steakandsid Don't get me wrong - I'm all for continuity, I know and admire the boot room legacy of LFC. I'm saying that being part of a club, as Giles and Dalglish were, is necessary to carry on a legacy but not enough to make someone a good, winning manager! The cases whereby ex-plyers or asst coaches took up the mantle in a club and failed are much more numerous than the success stories. I'd love to have seen Giles try b/c that 70s Leeds team was a wonder and Cloughie was not right for it.

  • @sternumagnum Worked for Bob Paisley at Liverpool when he succeeded Shankley.

  • fuck off REV|E!

  • ...Im a Leicester City supporter so obviously Clough and Forest were always our nemesis....but I can tell you that we all had a fierce, secret admiration for him!...An absolute legend..an infectious character...compulsive viewing!

  • Can you imagine this kind of open and frank discussion on the box today ? Not on your nelly.

  • Clough didn't have much in common with Margaret Thatcher politically, but he shared that technique where he'd try and hypnotise you with his eyes whenever he said something. Here, he's trying to do it with all the Leeds fans. (Contrast it to his drinking period when you can see the stare loses its focus.)

  • CLOUGH THE KING

  • What Clough went on to achieve compared to that twat Revie proves who the better manager was , Leeds had world class players but were just taught dirty tactics , My old man said Clarke n Jones were awsome but the 8 outfield players behind them were dirty kicking machines , the promise of a great side that will only be remembered for being dirty c!nts ! , CLOUGH was a legend and Revie and Bremner and Hunter/Gray especially were twats , from a Wolves fan !

  • Interesting whilst viewing this that Cloughie looks at the camera as if speaking to the country whilst Don Revie looks at Austin Mitchell. Two very distinctive personalities, but also two brilliant managers.

  • Wow people were calling half decent players world class back in the seventies. Gotta love Clough.

  • we loved ya brian clough you were the only football manager to knock out a football fan on the pitch 2wice haha thats the middlesbrough cumming out of him

    GAME AS FUCK

  • this interviewer who cut his hair, clough a true football legend, wenger is very much the same

  • Clough was known for fantastic achievements with two clubs. Revie had a fair amount of success with Leeds. And then he failed as England manager. Who's better?...

  • @rickothewhitto Spot the patten, Brian Clough and Peter Taylor enjoy success at Derby, Brain Clough and Peter Taylor separate with Clough going to Leeds and Taylor going to, Clough f*cks up at Leeds and is sacked after 44 days, he rejoins with Peter Taylor and enjoys huge success at Forest. Can you spot the patten, Clough was nothing but a loud mouth without Taylor, he had all the scouting and tactical talent. The people who really knew him like Keegan, his players ect hold him very highly.

  • @98raza20 btw fair amount of success? Don Revie's Leeds team was arguably second to none in Britain at the time, only Celtic could put up a decent argument look up Leeds 72' Merciless Showboating on youtube if you don't believe me. If the ref hadn't been bribed (which he later admited to taking money from Munich) Leeds would of won the European Cup.

  • @98raza20 clough was a great manager it never worked out at leeds as the plauyers hated him before he joined then he upset them when there so get he facts right ok.

  • @G1S1W The Damned Utd is wrong and has been sued for it "His book was outrageous. I'm portrayed as the scheming leprechaun. He had me in conversations with Clough that never happened. It made Clough out to be a wild man whereas he wasn't drinking then. I didn't get on with him but I found him highly intelligent. Peace said the novel was fiction based on fact, trouble is, people assume it's the official version. The movie was a misinterpretation of the misinterpretation that was the book!" Giles

  • @G1S1W does that sound like a man who hated Clough, Aye they didn't see eye to eye with Clough and rightly so, this was a man who berated them at every opportunity, calling them cheats and undeserving champions before, during and after managing Leeds. But they always respected him, and they never "bullied" him out of the job as it is shown in the fictional damned utd "I think Brian Clough was a genius, what he did at Notts Forest and what he did at Derby was great" Johnny Giles.

  • @98raza20 yea but thery never liked him if you read giles book he said most of the team never wanted to play for clough

  • @G1S1W Spot on , spoilt brats who were to scared to try and play football the propper way and knew they could win jack sh!t without the cold dirty ways Revie bred into them !

  • @Oddjob1177 thats a myth leeds also played great football but had a dirty side to

  • @Oddjob1177 i'm g1s1w this is my other channel what part mate of leeds also played good attacking passing football did you not get, they won the ball by dirty then played great football when they had it

  • @Oddjob1177 giles and bremner were great players to did your old man not say that

  • LEGEND!

  • Brian Clough manager for 28 years English Manager of the Year once,

    Don Revie manager for 13 years English Manager of the Year Thrice

  • @keltis2001 Brian Clough - European Cups 2

    Don Revie - European Cups bit fat zero zilchy!

  • @jord8609

    How much would have done without Taylor? Or better yet how much he done without Taylor?

  • @keltis2001 True..the Clough/Revie argument is boring and done to death anyway, both brilliant managers in their own right with completely different styles.

  • @keltis2001 haha so you judge on manager of the year awards the small clubs don't tend to get the awards look at what clough did

  • @G1S1W Big managers get the awards HAHAHA

  • @keltis2001 well for me Clough deserved to win that award more than he was credited! Everyody with half a brain can tell Clough did fantastic job at Forest n Derby

  • i'd love to see more stuff like this at 9pm instead of a documentary about midget smackheads...

  • thumbs up if you came here after reading goal(dot)com's article

  • clough was a legend.

  • then....people looked upon Revie as a great manager and Clough as a man who fucked up Leeds...now...Revie as nothing and Clough as one of the greatest, if not the greatest manager of all time!!

  • He just have winned 2 Europ Cups after that ... He ... has his statue ...

  • Wasn't Clough's fault the Leeds players were all stubborn dick heads, just like the Liverpool players with Hodgson when he first took over

  • @monstersocks72 It was Hodgson's fault that he was utterly useless as a manager, and had no big-time experience. For some reason, that same set of Liverpool players did really well with Dalglish. Hodgson pretty much fucked up with every decision he took - signings, team selection, and press conferences/interviews.

  • I'd love to see Ferguson and Wenger have a discussion like this

  • @rsu4ever Or better yet, Ferguson and Kevin Keegan!

  • Fuck don revie man DICK!.. a clough all the way!

  • he didn't get the support of the leeds players in fairness

  • What a prick Revie was. P*ssed off to the England job but still felt he had the right to question Clough on how he should of run Leeds??? Jumped up bastard.

  • Revie is the more likeable man

  • @r4h4al i couldnt disagree more, Clough was a character n a winner! True legend.

  • grande brian lo hai distrutto,go forest leeds in the hell

  • @1989zaffos fuck off

  • Clough! What a legend!

  • Revie's talking about Leeds like a family or whatever, so why the fuck did he leave then?

  • @MrBLFC because he got offered the England job

  • @danrawley1 yes i know, but if he liked it so much at Leeds (God knows why) then why leave.

  • @MrBLFC he left because according to johny giles he didnt think he would have the heart to move the players on who were starting to age but had served him all those years

  • @wozwozzer not a very good manager then.

  • @MrBLFC just get a life pal...

  • @wozwozzer why does don revie being a shit manager mean i have no life? moron.

  • @wozwozzer come on lad just get a grip if it means that much il even join in with you and say don revie wasnt a good manager

  • English Football will never witness a man like Brian Clough again !! true fact his most proud moment being when he made DCFC champions of England .. and not forgetting what he did for our neighbours in Red down the A52 .. R.I.P Brian Clough + Don Revie

  • revie comes off well here, sounds like a solid bloke

  • "best english manager to never manage england" apart from Bob Paisley

  • @browser719 Bob Paisley is Scottish,

  • @Wybo43 bob paisley wasnt scottish, hes from hetton le hole in sunderland. bill shankley was scottish

  • @Wybo43

    paisley was from the north east of england.. get it right will ya

  • best ever in the game ,,we would have ad him at birmingham anyday forest best footballing side i ever saw

  • Oi, Revie. 1970 Cup Final, ave it

  • Clough>Revie

  • See, this is how it should be. No Sky Sports News soundbites. No Talkshite. No FiveLive. No websites with snippets of comments. No scrolling text bar at the bottom of the screen. No Paul Merson staring at a fucking screen saying "Oh my gawd Jeff, he almost hit the pawwssst". One manager facing another manager. Straight fucking talk. Head to head. Debate between two heavyweights of the game.

  • Two legends, you can tell they had a great mutual respect for each other even if they didn't necessarily like each other.

  • Donald Revie the worst England manager on record.

    Even Steven 'smiler' mac the marrow couldn't match his FA arse licking crap on the field of play.

    Mr Clough however is and always will be a true great of football management.

    No one has matched his back to back European cups (champs league as it is now known) and tbh they never will. Brian Clough Legend.

  • glad this got uploaded i tried to myself once

  • Football TV was sick back in the day.....

    Can you imagine them nowadays doing a show about the sacking of, for example, Luis Scholari from Chelsea & having Jose Mourinho as the other pundit???

    Instead we have to listen to idiots like Andy Townsend & Ray Wilkins chatting shit....

  • Brian Clough was a genius and his departure from Leed Utd left them to face life in the wilderness for many many years. This was mainly down to player power and a weak boardroom. I bet there's many a Leeds fan thinking what could have been if only Brian Clough had been given the support he deserved. I'm sure he'd have created a Leeds Dynasty and made them an even bigger club than they are today.

  • @OWENJ2008 nope we call him a cunt and his wifes a slag when his former clubs (Forest and Derby) visit Elland Road and sing theres only one Don Revie. Clough probably could of created a Leeds dynasty but it isn't he wasn't supported, he made life hard for himself by a) berating and insulting the players...calling them "cheats" "they never won anything fairly" b) he insulted Revie infront of players when they considered revie to be like a father c) he won fuck all at leeds so he got sacked.

  • why did they get revie in? to make him look good? seems like bullying!!! haha.

  • Yeah...good move Leeds! You showed fantastic judgment...afterall Clough did nothing after this ......LOL

  • @xpat73 LOL. Right on, mate. And Leeds maintained their status as a football powerhouse after sacking Clough (even more LOL). :-)

  • @ChrJahnsen And Clough won two European Cups while Leeds didn't win any. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO­LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL !!

  • @xpat73 2 european cups?, shows what you know lmfao.

  • In what way are Leeds United Britain's most successful team?

  • @RocketDan they had been dominant domestically for some years at this point

  • @RocketDan

    Because they were at the time...

  • Brian I mean :L

  • My mum had the pleasure of meeting him. Relatives lived next door to him in Derby and they were always popping round to visit. Mum says this is how she remembers him.

  • Clough was such a fox back then! lmao.

  • I love the Cloughie cheeky smile at 3:42, He was such a fantastic man and will never be forgotten.

  • This is great! Thanks!

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