You are a fuckin faggot. This is the product of inbreeding my friends. You have absolutely no friends and you should kill yourself. Go eat a dick you bitch-ass and go have sex with your pet chicken you fag ass whore bitch fuckin assfucker bitch. Go fuck a goat you red neck pc hatin dumbass. Nobody likes you so you should take your dad's dick out of your mouth and shove all of your apple shit down your throat and buy a real computer that you can watch your animal porn on. HOMO FUCK
First of all you forgot to mention the original cost of your iMac, second of all the re-sale value of the Dell computer is a lot lower because the Dell was cheaper when you first bought it. In addition, the iMac was probably $500 more when you originally bought it. Therefore this youtube video is useless, because you failed to provide the viewer with the original cost, which makes all the difference.
I used this site. I sent in my cheap camcorder that I bought new at Bestbuy for $100. Gazelle bought it off me for $70. Some items I would get more for them on Ebay.
Alright - actually I like what I read of Macs and I have nothing against AppleSoldier, but he goes a bit wrong in this video. If you buy a PC, you pay less for it than what you do for a Mac. It can be that almost 500 dollars less, even more, more likely. You wont GAIN any money, you will just lose less, on resell. So if you get that 988 dollars for your Mac, you dont get money, you just lose a thousand bucks or so. When reselling a PC of same stats, you get less money from resell, but lose less.
Emeek's Mac Pro retailed for about $700 LESS than a Dell Precision 690 at spec. Dell Precision 690's go for less than $300 on ebay while Mac Pro's like Emeek's sell for about $900.
Consider: the resale value is proportional to the original price that was payed, because no alternative market is available?
If you bought a mac, and then you resold it for the ACTUAL cost of the parts that it were comprised, you'd be the only one that gets ripped off by apple.
But being the only one ripped off? Naw, your financial losses from apple's absured prices should be proportionally transferred to every dumbass that gets sucked into apple's scam... right AppleSoldier? :)
>resale value is proportional to the original price that was payed
Resale value is NOT proportional, Like I've been saying.
Macs pull in a higher percentage upon resell.
Seriously, go to Ebay. Look at how much Mac Pro's like Emeek's are going for in bids, then look at how much a computer like a Dell Precision 690 goes for.
the Dell Precision 690 actually costs $700 MORE than the Mac Pro at spec when it was on the market, but it resells for $300 while the Mac Pro gets $900
>If you bought a mac, and then you resold it for the ACTUAL cost of the parts that it were comprised
If Apple's products were overpriced, then WHY is it that so few PC manufacturers can match them for both formfactor AND price with the exact same hardware???
Obviously Macs are worth more when you buy them, that's why they have better resale value. In the long-run you are losing more money with a Mac than a PC.
lol yes, but if you consider the fact that you get better technology in a PC for the same amount of money (compared to the apple scam), then why is it that the resale value of a mac is higher than the pc, given the same amount of timeframe that the technology goes legacy/deprecated?
Lol shouldn't this mean that you TOO as a reseller are continueing to relay the scam? Meanwhile, I can put the same amount of money down for a fucking NEW PC, with MORE than your shit resale mac?
>then why is it that the resale value of a mac is higher than the pc, given the same amount of timeframe that the technology goes legacy/deprecated?
Because Macintosh computers do not depreciate as quickly as other PC's do. Macs have a reputation for having a higher build quality and longer life than most PC's.
They resell for more for the same reason as to why 24 kt gold sells for more than 18kt gold. More refinement.
What a joke of a video. You forgot that the dell would have cost $1000+ less when you first bought it. So the Mac Pro's resale value is not so good mate.
@sc0pl355 hmmmm ? Have you installed Linux Natively (without Bootcamp) on a MAC??? I guess not, because if you have then you would know how buggy their drivers are!
Also sc0pl355 you don't seem to know much about PC's!
First off, Boot Camp is a disk partitioning solution. When you install an OS onto it, you ARE running it natively, dumbass. Secondly, I ran ubuntu on my powermac g3. Thirdly, I've been using PC's for well over 20 years. I know PLENTY about them.
hmmm oky dumbass :) do your research! second of all why don't you go and install Snow leopard on your G3 .... oh wait its not supported... you know what that means? Apples doesn't support it... so retail value means nothing... why? because no one wants to buy a old technology !
Dumbass, you're the one that went off on a hugeass tangent when I stated that you don't know a thing about Macs. Then you waxed on about boot camp not being native, which is fucking retarded.
>why don't you go and install Snow leopard on your G3 ....
Snow Leopard is X86 only. I ran linux on my g3, that's all I have to do dude. Remember, you told me to run linux, but I already did. Secondly, look at you telling me to do my research when you don't even know what Boot Camp is.
Also if you read Apples or even wiki page about Boot camp you can see its not just a partitioning program...!
And once again name calling... how low can you go? men what ever happen to decent 'conversation' ... Honestly if you were nice about it... I would of gave you credit but your being a jerk ... Jerk! :-)
>Also if you read Apples or even wiki page about Boot camp you can see its not just a partitioning program...!
Actually, if you ever USED boot camp, you'd know that it IS just a partitioning program. Apple just applied firmware that allows you to install and run OSes that are other than OSX.
Seriously, you keep accusing me of using wiki, which is fucking retarded. Why's that? Because I'm always RIGHT and you can't fathom the fact that I know way more about this shit than you do?
how do they pull a higher percentage of funds in resale prices when you pay more for them in the first place. its been proven many many times that the resale price of macs is a crock of shit but you and every other mac lover fall into the bullshit. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!
I use the Dell Precision as a comparative because, at the time, the Dell Precision was configurable to the exact same spec as a Mac Pro. The biggest difference is that the Dell Precision actually cost more than a Mac Pro at spec back then so it is VERY relevant in a discussion about resale value.
The Dell costed more and had the same hardware, yet the Mac Pro draws in a higher percentage resale value.
@sc0pl355 There is one Mac workstation. There are numerous Windows workstation models - BOXX's line, the Dell Precisions, HP's Z series, Colfax, and others. Not all of these cost more at spec than the Mac Pro.
And again, you're talking WORKSTATIONS. Most people don't spend more than a thousand dollars on a computer TOTAL, let alone buy a $2-3,000 workstation.
>Not all of these cost more at spec than the Mac Pro.
It doesn't matter! What maters is whether or not a Mac Pro pulls in a higher percentage at resale! geez!
I use the Dell Precision as an example but the Mac Pro would sell for a higher percentage of the original price at resale against pretty much any of those other brands.
>you're talking WORKSTATIONS.
I'm talking workstations because other people are talking about the Mac Pro.
"Great, so it sells for more 3 years down the road. What does that mean NOW?"
Obviously I can still sell it, after YEARS of using it to conduct business, and reap enough money to make a significant dent in the price of a new workstation.
"Does it make it more useful?"
Read my above response. If I can sell my used computer for a significant price, then I can put the funds toward a newer, more powerful, rig.
Its a pc with a mac xserve motherboard in it. It's not a workstation. True workstations have are able to increase an support in upwards of 32 processors. Besides, workstations are a marketing plow use by pc manufacturers. If you look at the specs, you can make ANY workstation cheaper by parting it out yourself. The mac pro is a fancy looking pc tower the end.
@sc0pl355 Sorry, I was thinking clusters an servers. My brain was drained after work. No, you're right. That comment was dumb. There isn't any difference between a work station and a desktop pc. At one time there could have been but now the same characteristics of a workstation: high speed processors, huge disk space, lots of expansion slots for high end video cards and connectivity etc. Can all be found at the consumer level. A gaming computer and a workstation could compete head to head.
The end use of the machines are different. But specs wise no there is little to no difference between the machines. And software wise they can run the same OS's. So your argument is false. The machines are only different in your mind. Compare a dell precision t3500 with an alienware area 51 ALX on the tech specs alone and the Alienware comes out on top in a lot of areas. And for a mac to come close is a thousand dollars more in price. Workstations are a gimmick.
>But specs wise no there is little to no difference between the machines.
Um, workstations use workstation grade processors, ram and motherboards.
Gaming PC's use consumer grade processors, ram and motherboards. that makes a big difference in spec. they are not the same parts.
>The machines are only different in your mind.
No dumbass. A workstation and a consumer PC are different computers in reality. Workstations are designed and built with reliability and scalability in mind.
@sc0pl355.. Incorrect. The server motherboards and the consumer grade ones have the same specs on them. Server boards actually lack some items consumer grade boards have. Second, the processors are the same and so is the ram. Do you even look at the specs? "Reliability and scalability". Those are marketing buzz words and mean dick. A consumer pc is reliable and easily upgradeable. Once again. Workstations are marketing hype for ill informed kids like you.
>The server motherboards and the consumer grade ones have the same specs on them.
You are a fucking moron.
Server and Workstation motherboards have capabilities that consumer motherboards don't.
>the processors are the same and so is the ram.
No they aren't. Xeons have a different INSTRUCTION SET than their consumer brethren. Look at you suggesting thaty consumer Level ram is the SAME THING as ECC Ram.
@sc0pl355 No, go look at the boards. Same shit on them, pci slots ram slots ect. Ecc ram is actually slower than its desktop counterpart. Anything else I can shoot down? Xeon processor and its Core i7 desktop counterpart and virtually the same. Besides we were talking about workstations and not servers remember. Workstations are built using desktop parts not servers. Once again please look up the specs before speaking junior. (^_^)
Look up specs on WHAT dumbass? Show me a commercial motherboard and I can show you WHY it is different from a server or workstation mobo. Simple as that.
>Workstations are built using desktop parts not servers.
Workstations typically have Xeons or Opterons. Those are server/workstation grade processors. True workstations have multi=processor configurations, whereas most consumer level processors don't have the instruction set for multi cpu configs.
>Ecc ram is actually slower than its desktop counterpart.
That's because the idea of a workstation/server is to continue to run, no matter what. Their focus s on stability you fucking retard.
>Xeon processor and its Core i7 desktop counterpart and virtually the same.
They have very different instruction sets and Xeons can typically be mounted in multi-processor configurations. Not to mention that the higher tiered Xeons have twice the QPI as a consumer-level i7. oops
@sc0pl355 I've never seen workstations built in rackmount enclosures and using small form factor motherboards and all that jazz - have you?
Multi-processor workstations are built from server components, but most single processor workstations ARE built from desktop components. Examples: 4-core Mac Pro, single-processor BOXX workstations, and so on.
@sc0pl355 Workstation-grade processors? The Mac Pro has a W3520. That's essentially an i7 920. It can address up to 24 GB of RAM, just like the 920. It's a fucking i7 920.
Oh and the BOXX has an i7, not a Xeon. You do realize that 3000 sequence Xeons are literally the same fucking thing as their desktop counterparts, right? The only difference, at least in the Nehalem models, is that they can use ECC memory. Big fucking deal. All in all, it's just a badge.
First off, the w3520 is compatible with ECC ram. Is the i7 920 compatible with ECC ram? Nope. That's a difference right there. 3520 has a lower voltage than the 920. That's another difference. 3520 has Demand Based Switching. I count three differences.
>The only difference, at least in the Nehalem models, is that they can use ECC memory. Big fucking deal.
Hey man type this into your command line (you'll actually use it for once!)
echo "Lbh qba'g xabj n shpxvat guvat naq lbh'er n gbby sbe cergraqvat gung lbh qb." | tr 'A-Za-z' 'N-ZA-Mn-za-m'
Yeah, the cost does add up, but then again, the memory I bought was pretty expensive ($150 for 2 2GB sticks) and that cost would also add up, don't you think?
No, I always beat you, pretty much. You're just too fucking stupid to realize it, so I let you take the "effort" trophy (since it really doesn't take much effort to prove 90% of Mac users wrong, since they're mostly retarded for using Macs in the first place.)
So you say you use your terminal a lot? Is the OS X GUI so lacking and counterintuitive that the CLI is more convenient?
You were only right about TWO things out of a dozen that we debated. I was right about the rest. Every time I was right, you tried to change the subject, or in many cases made a full retreat. That's why you're forming personal attacks right now, because you know you LOST and it is eating you up inside.
> Is the OS X GUI so lacking and counterintuitive that the CLI is more convenient?
I KNOW I win because most of the things we debate are either black or white.
Either the BOXX 8520 comes with sas capability built in, or doesn't
Either a Xeon-based workstation is the same as a consumer desktop, or not.
crap like that.
You're usually on the wrong side of those debates because I can simply make a phone call to bust your ass. There IS no argument. Right or wrong, black or white, true or false. You're about 90% false.
And the 8520 can also take a lot more memory than the 8-core MP, so the higher price is justified either way.
A Xeon-based workstation isn't much different from a consumer desktop when it's in a single-processor configuration. Unless, of course, you're talking about using a 5000-sequence Xeon that accepts a lot more memory (which isn't normally the case.) Single-processor "workstations" are essentially consumer desktops with some server components (ECC memory, Xeon) but not much else.
@sc0pl355 Oh, another thing - you keep mentioning that the workstations from Dell, BOXX, Lenovo and what have you are more expensive than the Mac - now tell me, when someone says "my PC is cheaper than a Mac blah blah blah," you say "you get what you pay for." Tell me why that doesn't apply in this case?
Let me help you with that - does Apple do on-site warranty service? Is the machine overnighted both ways, by their courtesy, when on-site warranty service isn't purchased? These ARE important.
Sigh, I'll answer your question. I don't say 'you get what you pay for'. oops
When people say their PC costs less, I simply point out that it is a different form-factor and so on. You're confused. I'm the form-factor argument guy.
>does Apple do on-site warranty service?
If you're within 50 miles of a service center, yes. did you ever read the applecare plan?
>Is the machine overnighted both ways, by their courtesy, when on-site warranty service isn't purchased?
Look, either you have applecare or you don't. Apple doesn't have a plethora of tiered service plans, they have Applecare, which is the same for everyone. If you don't have a service plan, then why the hell would they or anyone care about your problems? If you DO have Applecare, I believe that shipping costs are covered by Apple.
@nbglass The benefits of buying a workstation aren't so much the "bang for your buck," but the better integration and support from the manufacturer. If you buy a $1,200 Dell XPS instead of a Dell Precision T5500 with the same specs (at least in numbers,) you will get a) inferior support and b) inferior integration of the components. There IS a markup with workstations, but you're paying for a lot more than just the machine.
Guess you missed when I said that numbers alone do NOT make them the same spec. When you're buying a workstation, you are buying the ECC ram, the workstation-class motherboard, the capability to hold more ram and so on.
Look at you, arguing for the sake of arguing. I pity you.
Unlike you, I can actually tell the fucking difference because I actually know something about technology.
>Those are marketing buzz words
Only to an ignoramus like you.
>Workstations are marketing hype for ill informed kids like you.
First off, I'm older than you are. Secondly, you need to tell ALL of the businesses that USE workstations that it is just marketing hype. Watch them laugh at you, dumbass.
@sc0pl355 "Unlike you I can actually tell the difference because I actually".. You didn't answer my question. Did you look up the specs. No, you didn't. Instead you assumed. Which makes you look like the ass you are. Keep trying junior. Kids like you make me laugh with how grown up they try to be on youtube. Any other mommy and daddy words you'd like to type to make yourself look "all grown up"? LOL
Resale value is all relative. I've owned macs and switched to PC and I've been happy ever since the switch. I was one of those few mac owners that had nothing but problems. I digress. I walked into a used computer store that had g4 dual core macs for sale. Guy wanted 600 for a dual core 800 mhz. I'm not a collector so I laughed at the price. Across town the same machine was 99 bucks. It comes down to demand. There's a big market for people that collect old technology and especially old macs.
I'd rather build my own and minimize my losses. All electronics are losses. Selling a Mac for half of what its worth after 3 years is still more of a loss than me throwing my DIY box into the trash because the initial investment cost considerably less.
Eric ... you are screwing your subscribers (specially the young ones who don't know to check this)
What am I talking about? Tyr typing in the website and google, and the word scam after it ... yes people are getting ripped off from this website. Way to go Eric.
This video just screams stupidity. Mac Pros cost twice as much as the Dell, so you'd expect the resale value to be twice as much. You have very little intelligence when it comes to logic and reasoning.
Your not making $900.00 of the Mac Pro you idiot you have infact lost over$1,000.00. I bet the PC did not even cost $1000.00 brand new.
If you buy a Corvette for $50,000.00 and sell it for $25,000.00 two years later you have lost $25,000.00 dollars jackass. You have not made $25,000.00.
@adobePC He really doesnt understand resale value. Its not a "I get x amount back vs your y amount, my resale is better", its more of a amount back to amount paid ratio. But then again, if you buy Mac, you really aren't smart with money in the first place.
Look, if he were selling a Dell Precision 690 at the same spec as the Mac Pro, he wouldn't even get $400 for it as a resale item.
You can't claim that the Mac Pro costs more than the Dell precision because a 2006 dell precision at the same spec as a 2006 mac pro, costs $700 MORE than the Mac Pro.
Macs sell for a higher PERCENTAGE as a resale value in comparison to a PC of that price. End of story.
For my Apple iMac Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz 20'' that I bought in Dec 08 they are giving me $600. I paid almost $2000. Is that right????? I seams to me that I would have paid a lot less for a PC. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Apple and I will never go back to PC. But, for me this web site is not a good deal......
the mac pro doesn't compete with the studio, it competes with the precision... besides who cares if you get $500 more when you sell the mac, when you paid $1000 more for it when you bought it. oh, and wtf is with all the icons in the doc, holy shit dude!
What part of "GTFO" did you not get twat rag. No one gives a shit about you anyways so your words don't mean Jack shit, now fuck off, it's passed your bed time anyways.
The 2.66Ghz Mac Pro was released at $2,500 (and that's not counting the extra ram) and if you sold it now for $988, you would be a retard because apple sells mac minis at a higher price and less features.
Furthermore, the dell is a core 2 quad and the Mac Pro uses ECC Memory and that's expensive and the memory in the mac alone is worth $600 and 16Gb of regular DDR2 is worth like $400.
You're such a NARB holy shit. You realize the Mac Pro costs twice as much as the Dell Studio?? Jesus fucking Christ, you lose $1500 on the Mac Pro, whereas you only lose $1000 on the Dell. Get a fucking clue. It's like trying to explain that the moon spins on an axis to a dumbass.
Emeek is mathematically challenged when reality doesn't line up with his perceptions. If anyone thinks they are going to save money by buying a apple, they are not being realistic. Buy apple because you like the OS, or the aesthetic ... Emeek isn't fooling anyone.
So the mac pro will be worth $1400+ more than my PC when i decide to sell it? because that's how much it would cost me in addition to buy in the first place. No? exactly.
super nice video. but remember you pay twice as more for your mac than the dell. the more you pay the more gazelle pays you. the less you pay (for the same system, but not a mac. the less you get) what thats means? you are paying for plastic, aluminum and all the materials your mac comes with. the same product and performance, pc comes shipper. keep sucking steve jobs dicck, hes getting more money and you keep sucking. maybe he sends you a appreciation check one of this days. peace. windows 7.
what do they do with the stuff? Sell it right. Why not just sell it yourself on eBay and keep the money you make above what you were gonna get from them?
I did a rundown of the numbers on these things, except that I don't know the specs on your Mac Pro, so I used the lowest end Mac Pro if you bought it then turned around and sold it as soon as you got it. I did the same with the Dell Studio.
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You are a fuckin faggot. This is the product of inbreeding my friends. You have absolutely no friends and you should kill yourself. Go eat a dick you bitch-ass and go have sex with your pet chicken you fag ass whore bitch fuckin assfucker bitch. Go fuck a goat you red neck pc hatin dumbass. Nobody likes you so you should take your dad's dick out of your mouth and shove all of your apple shit down your throat and buy a real computer that you can watch your animal porn on. HOMO FUCK
mwb16382 1 year ago
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alienware= better than mac
dachewe 1 year ago
lainware = better than mac
dachewe 1 year ago
@dachewe Alienware is garbage and overpriced even as a PC company.
SGTBLACK0UT 1 year ago
@SGTBLACK0UT oh yeah then i should live in a pineapple!!
dachewe 1 year ago
lol you forgot to consider the original price
megaman19895 1 year ago 3
I have a laptop with a 17inch screen, and the exact same specs as the £1,700 MacBook Pro. Mine cost £600.
If I lost £360. Big whoop. My friend selling his MacBook Pro for £700, loses £1,000...
Ownage
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BensoftMedia 1 year ago
First of all you forgot to mention the original cost of your iMac, second of all the re-sale value of the Dell computer is a lot lower because the Dell was cheaper when you first bought it. In addition, the iMac was probably $500 more when you originally bought it. Therefore this youtube video is useless, because you failed to provide the viewer with the original cost, which makes all the difference.
Evman311 1 year ago
The mac costs more new so of course it would resell for more..
BeDeCe23 1 year ago
I used this site. I sent in my cheap camcorder that I bought new at Bestbuy for $100. Gazelle bought it off me for $70. Some items I would get more for them on Ebay.
denosplace 1 year ago
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you use a mac, your opinion is invalid. Also TF2 for PC FTW!!!
p.s THE GAME
readmypost9000 1 year ago
This time 4 years ago?? wtf does that mean?
jonvagnier 1 year ago
Alright - actually I like what I read of Macs and I have nothing against AppleSoldier, but he goes a bit wrong in this video. If you buy a PC, you pay less for it than what you do for a Mac. It can be that almost 500 dollars less, even more, more likely. You wont GAIN any money, you will just lose less, on resell. So if you get that 988 dollars for your Mac, you dont get money, you just lose a thousand bucks or so. When reselling a PC of same stats, you get less money from resell, but lose less.
dev3loper 1 year ago
@dev3loper
Emeek's Mac Pro retailed for about $700 LESS than a Dell Precision 690 at spec. Dell Precision 690's go for less than $300 on ebay while Mac Pro's like Emeek's sell for about $900.
oops
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Consider: the resale value is proportional to the original price that was payed, because no alternative market is available?
If you bought a mac, and then you resold it for the ACTUAL cost of the parts that it were comprised, you'd be the only one that gets ripped off by apple.
But being the only one ripped off? Naw, your financial losses from apple's absured prices should be proportionally transferred to every dumbass that gets sucked into apple's scam... right AppleSoldier? :)
jetdog440 1 year ago
@jetdog440
>resale value is proportional to the original price that was payed
Resale value is NOT proportional, Like I've been saying.
Macs pull in a higher percentage upon resell.
Seriously, go to Ebay. Look at how much Mac Pro's like Emeek's are going for in bids, then look at how much a computer like a Dell Precision 690 goes for.
the Dell Precision 690 actually costs $700 MORE than the Mac Pro at spec when it was on the market, but it resells for $300 while the Mac Pro gets $900
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@jetdog440
>If you bought a mac, and then you resold it for the ACTUAL cost of the parts that it were comprised
If Apple's products were overpriced, then WHY is it that so few PC manufacturers can match them for both formfactor AND price with the exact same hardware???
Dude, you're the one being ripped off.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Obviously Macs are worth more when you buy them, that's why they have better resale value. In the long-run you are losing more money with a Mac than a PC.
salx1x 1 year ago
@salx1x
Incorrect.
As I have told many others here. Macs do not depreciate in value as much as PC's do.
If you buy a Mac and a PC for the SAME PRICE, the Mac will get more money upon resell.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355
lol yes, but if you consider the fact that you get better technology in a PC for the same amount of money (compared to the apple scam), then why is it that the resale value of a mac is higher than the pc, given the same amount of timeframe that the technology goes legacy/deprecated?
Lol shouldn't this mean that you TOO as a reseller are continueing to relay the scam? Meanwhile, I can put the same amount of money down for a fucking NEW PC, with MORE than your shit resale mac?
jetdog440 1 year ago
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@jetdog440
>if you consider the fact that you get better technology in a PC for the same amount of money
That's not true if you look at the formfactor or class of computer.
The iMac has the best hardware for the price among all-in-one computers
Mac Mini has some of the best hardware for the price among Mini PC's
Octo-Mac Pro has some of the best hardware for the price among octo-core workstations.
I'll move on to your question now.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@jetdog440
>then why is it that the resale value of a mac is higher than the pc, given the same amount of timeframe that the technology goes legacy/deprecated?
Because Macintosh computers do not depreciate as quickly as other PC's do. Macs have a reputation for having a higher build quality and longer life than most PC's.
They resell for more for the same reason as to why 24 kt gold sells for more than 18kt gold. More refinement.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
What a joke of a video. You forgot that the dell would have cost $1000+ less when you first bought it. So the Mac Pro's resale value is not so good mate.
Salavat23 1 year ago 7
@Salavat23
Dude, seriously. Look up the resell value of his Mac Pro and compare it to the resell value of a dell precision 690 with dual xeons.
Precision 690 costed about $700 more than his Mac Pro AT SPEC, yet it sells for much less.
ALSO, I must point out that a Dell Studio is much newer than his Mac Pro.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Stop being a duchebag!
TheHappyToad 1 year ago 2
So basically you will pay $984 for a box which you can't install latest OS on it :) ... I don't consider this a resale value!
Also That PC you get you can install Windows 7 on them which makes them a bit more useful!
You can Also install Linux on PC's versus Mac tend to have BUGGY driver support (well thanks to Apple trying to Control things)!
drs99wingzero 1 year ago
@drs99wingzero
Dude, you don't seem to know a damn thing about macs.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 hmmmm ? Have you installed Linux Natively (without Bootcamp) on a MAC??? I guess not, because if you have then you would know how buggy their drivers are!
Also sc0pl355 you don't seem to know much about PC's!
drs99wingzero 1 year ago
@drs99wingzero
First off, Boot Camp is a disk partitioning solution. When you install an OS onto it, you ARE running it natively, dumbass. Secondly, I ran ubuntu on my powermac g3. Thirdly, I've been using PC's for well over 20 years. I know PLENTY about them.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355
hmmm oky dumbass :) do your research! second of all why don't you go and install Snow leopard on your G3 .... oh wait its not supported... you know what that means? Apples doesn't support it... so retail value means nothing... why? because no one wants to buy a old technology !
drs99wingzero 1 year ago
@drs99wingzero Also you started the name calling... I just asked you a simple question!
drs99wingzero 1 year ago
@drs99wingzero
Dumbass, you're the one that went off on a hugeass tangent when I stated that you don't know a thing about Macs. Then you waxed on about boot camp not being native, which is fucking retarded.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@drs99wingzero
>why don't you go and install Snow leopard on your G3 ....
Snow Leopard is X86 only. I ran linux on my g3, that's all I have to do dude. Remember, you told me to run linux, but I already did. Secondly, look at you telling me to do my research when you don't even know what Boot Camp is.
Bad Comedy bro
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355
its not comedy its reality :) !
Also if you read Apples or even wiki page about Boot camp you can see its not just a partitioning program...!
And once again name calling... how low can you go? men what ever happen to decent 'conversation' ... Honestly if you were nice about it... I would of gave you credit but your being a jerk ... Jerk! :-)
Sad sad sad...!
drs99wingzero 1 year ago
>Also if you read Apples or even wiki page about Boot camp you can see its not just a partitioning program...!
Actually, if you ever USED boot camp, you'd know that it IS just a partitioning program. Apple just applied firmware that allows you to install and run OSes that are other than OSX.
That firmware is NOT called boot camp.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
look at sc0pl355 being a wiki fanboy as usual. do you lube erics dick before you insert it in your ass or do you like the roughness.
dirtygore 1 year ago 3
@dirtygore
Seriously, you keep accusing me of using wiki, which is fucking retarded. Why's that? Because I'm always RIGHT and you can't fathom the fact that I know way more about this shit than you do?
Also, keep me out of your sexual fantasies.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
dude you keep riding erics ass. why is that?
dirtygore 1 year ago
@dirtygore
I comment on a video that I never said that I agree with and you say I'm riding someone's ass?
Dude, look at my votes or faves before commenting like an asshole.
Seriously, all I've done is state the FACT that Macs pull in a higher percentage of funds in resale prices.
Tell you what, go hate on someone else you fucking loser.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
how do they pull a higher percentage of funds in resale prices when you pay more for them in the first place. its been proven many many times that the resale price of macs is a crock of shit but you and every other mac lover fall into the bullshit. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!
dirtygore 1 year ago 2
@dirtygore
>how do they pull a higher percentage of funds in resale prices
Because they aren't constantly devalued by the source company.
Seriously. Look at what a Dell Precision 690 gets on resale in comparison to a Mac Pro. Dell Precisions cost WAY more than a Mac Pro at spec.
Seriously, it is not a secret that Macs get a HIGHER PERCENTAGE of return during resale.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 does everyone buy Dell Precisions?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy Does everyone buy Mac Pro's?
I use the Dell Precision as a comparative because, at the time, the Dell Precision was configurable to the exact same spec as a Mac Pro. The biggest difference is that the Dell Precision actually cost more than a Mac Pro at spec back then so it is VERY relevant in a discussion about resale value.
The Dell costed more and had the same hardware, yet the Mac Pro draws in a higher percentage resale value.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 There is one Mac workstation. There are numerous Windows workstation models - BOXX's line, the Dell Precisions, HP's Z series, Colfax, and others. Not all of these cost more at spec than the Mac Pro.
And again, you're talking WORKSTATIONS. Most people don't spend more than a thousand dollars on a computer TOTAL, let alone buy a $2-3,000 workstation.
thebsdguy 1 year ago 2
@thebsdguy
>Not all of these cost more at spec than the Mac Pro.
It doesn't matter! What maters is whether or not a Mac Pro pulls in a higher percentage at resale! geez!
I use the Dell Precision as an example but the Mac Pro would sell for a higher percentage of the original price at resale against pretty much any of those other brands.
>you're talking WORKSTATIONS.
I'm talking workstations because other people are talking about the Mac Pro.
Spoilers: The Mac Pro is a workstation!
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 So everyone should buy a Mac Pro because it brings more in resale?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy "So everyone should buy a Mac Pro because it brings more in resale?"
I didn't say that dude.
I pointed it out as a means to show that Macs IN GENERAL, get a higher percentage of money back upon resale. That's the end of it.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 Great, so it sells for more 3 years down the road. What does that mean NOW? Does it make it more useful? No.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
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@thebsdguy
"Great, so it sells for more 3 years down the road. What does that mean NOW?"
Obviously I can still sell it, after YEARS of using it to conduct business, and reap enough money to make a significant dent in the price of a new workstation.
"Does it make it more useful?"
Read my above response. If I can sell my used computer for a significant price, then I can put the funds toward a newer, more powerful, rig.
Look at you... Arguing for the sake of arguing.
sc0pl355 1 year ago 2
Its a pc with a mac xserve motherboard in it. It's not a workstation. True workstations have are able to increase an support in upwards of 32 processors. Besides, workstations are a marketing plow use by pc manufacturers. If you look at the specs, you can make ANY workstation cheaper by parting it out yourself. The mac pro is a fancy looking pc tower the end.
nbglass 1 year ago
@nbglass
>True workstations have are able to increase an support in upwards of 32 processors.
dude, you clearly don't know what a workstation is.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 Sorry, I was thinking clusters an servers. My brain was drained after work. No, you're right. That comment was dumb. There isn't any difference between a work station and a desktop pc. At one time there could have been but now the same characteristics of a workstation: high speed processors, huge disk space, lots of expansion slots for high end video cards and connectivity etc. Can all be found at the consumer level. A gaming computer and a workstation could compete head to head.
nbglass 1 year ago
@nbglass
"A gaming computer and a workstation could compete head to head."
The Idea of a workstation or server is to stay up and not fail, no matter what. The Idea of a gaming pc is to play games.
Two totally different things.
No, a generic gaming PC can not replace a Workstation.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
The end use of the machines are different. But specs wise no there is little to no difference between the machines. And software wise they can run the same OS's. So your argument is false. The machines are only different in your mind. Compare a dell precision t3500 with an alienware area 51 ALX on the tech specs alone and the Alienware comes out on top in a lot of areas. And for a mac to come close is a thousand dollars more in price. Workstations are a gimmick.
nbglass 1 year ago
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@nbglass
>But specs wise no there is little to no difference between the machines.
Um, workstations use workstation grade processors, ram and motherboards.
Gaming PC's use consumer grade processors, ram and motherboards. that makes a big difference in spec. they are not the same parts.
>The machines are only different in your mind.
No dumbass. A workstation and a consumer PC are different computers in reality. Workstations are designed and built with reliability and scalability in mind.
sc0pl355 1 year ago 2
@sc0pl355.. Incorrect. The server motherboards and the consumer grade ones have the same specs on them. Server boards actually lack some items consumer grade boards have. Second, the processors are the same and so is the ram. Do you even look at the specs? "Reliability and scalability". Those are marketing buzz words and mean dick. A consumer pc is reliable and easily upgradeable. Once again. Workstations are marketing hype for ill informed kids like you.
nbglass 1 year ago
@nbglass
>The server motherboards and the consumer grade ones have the same specs on them.
You are a fucking moron.
Server and Workstation motherboards have capabilities that consumer motherboards don't.
>the processors are the same and so is the ram.
No they aren't. Xeons have a different INSTRUCTION SET than their consumer brethren. Look at you suggesting thaty consumer Level ram is the SAME THING as ECC Ram.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 No, go look at the boards. Same shit on them, pci slots ram slots ect. Ecc ram is actually slower than its desktop counterpart. Anything else I can shoot down? Xeon processor and its Core i7 desktop counterpart and virtually the same. Besides we were talking about workstations and not servers remember. Workstations are built using desktop parts not servers. Once again please look up the specs before speaking junior. (^_^)
nbglass 1 year ago
@nbglass
> please look up the specs
Look up specs on WHAT dumbass? Show me a commercial motherboard and I can show you WHY it is different from a server or workstation mobo. Simple as that.
>Workstations are built using desktop parts not servers.
Workstations typically have Xeons or Opterons. Those are server/workstation grade processors. True workstations have multi=processor configurations, whereas most consumer level processors don't have the instruction set for multi cpu configs.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
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@nbglass
>Ecc ram is actually slower than its desktop counterpart.
That's because the idea of a workstation/server is to continue to run, no matter what. Their focus s on stability you fucking retard.
>Xeon processor and its Core i7 desktop counterpart and virtually the same.
They have very different instruction sets and Xeons can typically be mounted in multi-processor configurations. Not to mention that the higher tiered Xeons have twice the QPI as a consumer-level i7. oops
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@nbglass
>Besides we were talking about workstations and not servers remember.
Servers and workstations have more in common than commercial-level PC's and Workstations. If you weren't such a fucking techtard, you'd know this.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 You're a fucking techtard, not him.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
He said that workstations use the exact same motherboards, processors and ram as consumer level PC's, which is utter bullshit.
Sorry, but he's solidified his position as the techtard dude.
As have you for backing him up on this.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 I've never seen workstations built in rackmount enclosures and using small form factor motherboards and all that jazz - have you?
Multi-processor workstations are built from server components, but most single processor workstations ARE built from desktop components. Examples: 4-core Mac Pro, single-processor BOXX workstations, and so on.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
> I've never seen workstations built in rackmount enclosures and using small form factor motherboards and all that jazz - have you?
I've seen servers that WEREN'T built into small formfactor, rackmount enclosures and I have seen workstations that WERE.
>4-core Mac Pro, single-processor BOXX workstations
Um, Xeon branded processors, ECC ram and workstation grade processors. ooops
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 Workstation-grade processors? The Mac Pro has a W3520. That's essentially an i7 920. It can address up to 24 GB of RAM, just like the 920. It's a fucking i7 920.
Oh and the BOXX has an i7, not a Xeon. You do realize that 3000 sequence Xeons are literally the same fucking thing as their desktop counterparts, right? The only difference, at least in the Nehalem models, is that they can use ECC memory. Big fucking deal. All in all, it's just a badge.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
First off, the w3520 is compatible with ECC ram. Is the i7 920 compatible with ECC ram? Nope. That's a difference right there. 3520 has a lower voltage than the 920. That's another difference. 3520 has Demand Based Switching. I count three differences.
>The only difference, at least in the Nehalem models, is that they can use ECC memory. Big fucking deal.
ECC ram is an overall stability deal dude.
You're arguing for the sake of arguing, I swear.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 ECC memory isn't as much for stability as it is for increased memory density with registered modules, sorry about your wrong.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
>ECC memory isn't as much for stability as it is for increased memory density with registered modules
ECC stands for error correcting codes dude. Correcting errors goes a long way toward preventing a system crash. That's a stability focus.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 In any case, ECC memory only carries a 15-20% price premium. Peanuts.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
>ECC memory only carries a 15-20%
did I say that ECC ram cost a whole lot more? Nope
I only said that a real workstation was different from a consumer desktop. I haven't said shit-all about price concerning the ram.
Also, premiums are like pebbles. If you pile enough pebbles onto each other, they make a mountain.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Hey man type this into your command line (you'll actually use it for once!)
echo "Lbh qba'g xabj n shpxvat guvat naq lbh'er n gbby sbe cergraqvat gung lbh qb." | tr 'A-Za-z' 'N-ZA-Mn-za-m'
Yeah, the cost does add up, but then again, the memory I bought was pretty expensive ($150 for 2 2GB sticks) and that cost would also add up, don't you think?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
˙pɹɐʇǝɹ ƃuıʞɔnɟ ɐ ʇou ɯ,ı 'noʎ ǝʞıןun ˙uǝʇɟo ǝʇınb ןɐuıɯɹǝʇ ʎɯ ǝsn ı 'ʍʇq ˙ssɐqɯnp 'ʇı uo puɐɯɯoɔ 31ʇoɹ ɐ ƃuıop ʇnoɥʇıʍ ʇɐɥʇ pɐǝɹ uɐɔ ı
>$150 for 2 2GB sticks
That's nice. Call me when you're buying 4 or 8 gig sticks.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
No need. Unlike your shitty iMac, my machine actually has four DIMM slots. By the way, it's DDR3 1600. Low latency. Kingston.
Can't get that caliber memory for a Mac, now can you? :)
thebsdguy 1 year ago
>my machine actually has four DIMM slots.
Um, iMacs have four DIMM slots dummy.
>DDR3 1600.
Ask me if I give a fuck.
Look at you, you lose one argument and then you move on to something else in hope of acquiring at least a small scrap of victory. Pitiful.
Hey numbnuts, the debate is about whether workstations were different from consumer PC's or not. I say they are different. That's the end of it.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
No, I always beat you, pretty much. You're just too fucking stupid to realize it, so I let you take the "effort" trophy (since it really doesn't take much effort to prove 90% of Mac users wrong, since they're mostly retarded for using Macs in the first place.)
So you say you use your terminal a lot? Is the OS X GUI so lacking and counterintuitive that the CLI is more convenient?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
>I always beat you
lol
Dude, I bust your ass every time dude.
You were only right about TWO things out of a dozen that we debated. I was right about the rest. Every time I was right, you tried to change the subject, or in many cases made a full retreat. That's why you're forming personal attacks right now, because you know you LOST and it is eating you up inside.
> Is the OS X GUI so lacking and counterintuitive that the CLI is more convenient?
Dude, CLI is more convenient than ANY GUI.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
How many keyboards have you swapped from hammering Wikipedia for answers?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
I don't go to wikipedia.
Look at you, more attempts at personal attacks. Pitiful.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
you only think you win because, in my case, this is more amusing than trying to argue with morons:
watch?v=oIwBWUf_kpE
eventually I just get bored and take pictures of cats
thebsdguy 1 year ago
>you only think you win because
I KNOW I win because most of the things we debate are either black or white.
Either the BOXX 8520 comes with sas capability built in, or doesn't
Either a Xeon-based workstation is the same as a consumer desktop, or not.
crap like that.
You're usually on the wrong side of those debates because I can simply make a phone call to bust your ass. There IS no argument. Right or wrong, black or white, true or false. You're about 90% false.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
While we're posting links...
watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4
(You're Salieri lol)
sc0pl355 1 year ago
watch?v=pYjHdaSyJAo
You're the loudmouth getting punched in the face. Talk is cheap.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
watch?v=Mlr6qvhQ4xE
u mad cuz I'm stylin on you
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Also, what's up with the punch in the face crap?
Internet toughguy much?
sc0pl355 1 year ago
And the 8520 can also take a lot more memory than the 8-core MP, so the higher price is justified either way.
A Xeon-based workstation isn't much different from a consumer desktop when it's in a single-processor configuration. Unless, of course, you're talking about using a 5000-sequence Xeon that accepts a lot more memory (which isn't normally the case.) Single-processor "workstations" are essentially consumer desktops with some server components (ECC memory, Xeon) but not much else.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
>8520 can also take a lot more memory than the 8-core MP
With the price of the ram, I can buy multiple mac pro's, max the ram and cluster them.
>Unless, of course, you're talking about using a 5000-sequence Xeon that accepts a lot more memory
The 8520 only uses 5000 sequence Xeons. Hmmm
>Single-processor "workstations" are essentially consumer desktops with some server components (ECC memory, Xeon) but not much else.
thus, they are different. oops
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Yeah, if you pay Boxx for the memory (like an idiot)
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 Oh, another thing - you keep mentioning that the workstations from Dell, BOXX, Lenovo and what have you are more expensive than the Mac - now tell me, when someone says "my PC is cheaper than a Mac blah blah blah," you say "you get what you pay for." Tell me why that doesn't apply in this case?
Let me help you with that - does Apple do on-site warranty service? Is the machine overnighted both ways, by their courtesy, when on-site warranty service isn't purchased? These ARE important.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy You again?
Sigh, I'll answer your question. I don't say 'you get what you pay for'. oops
When people say their PC costs less, I simply point out that it is a different form-factor and so on. You're confused. I'm the form-factor argument guy.
>does Apple do on-site warranty service?
If you're within 50 miles of a service center, yes. did you ever read the applecare plan?
sc0pl355 1 year ago
cont...
>Is the machine overnighted both ways, by their courtesy, when on-site warranty service isn't purchased?
Look, either you have applecare or you don't. Apple doesn't have a plethora of tiered service plans, they have Applecare, which is the same for everyone. If you don't have a service plan, then why the hell would they or anyone care about your problems? If you DO have Applecare, I believe that shipping costs are covered by Apple.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
cont...
Here's applecare's terms and services...
snipurl. c o m / v871h
read it.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
>iMacs have four DIMM slots
The new ones, yeah. Aren't you still using some POS Core Duo iMac?
thebsdguy 1 year ago
Look at you with the personal attacks.
I have a core duo iMac. It's not my main computer dude. Also core duo's are way ancient dude.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@nbglass The benefits of buying a workstation aren't so much the "bang for your buck," but the better integration and support from the manufacturer. If you buy a $1,200 Dell XPS instead of a Dell Precision T5500 with the same specs (at least in numbers,) you will get a) inferior support and b) inferior integration of the components. There IS a markup with workstations, but you're paying for a lot more than just the machine.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
> If you buy a $1,200 Dell XPS instead of a Dell Precision T5500 with the same specs (at least in numbers,)
Dell XPS doesn't support ECC Ram
Dell XPS is most certainly using a different Motherboard
Dell XPS doesn't support AS MUCH ram.
They both have totally different processor options.
They are NOT the same spec. You can't just count numbers and call them the same spec. the parts have to match!
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 THAT'S WHY I SAID "at least in numbers" YOU FUCKING MORON.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
Guess you missed when I said that numbers alone do NOT make them the same spec. When you're buying a workstation, you are buying the ECC ram, the workstation-class motherboard, the capability to hold more ram and so on.
Look at you, arguing for the sake of arguing. I pity you.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 You really don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
@thebsdguy
Dude, you don't know what you're talking about if you think an ECC ram module is the same thing as a consumer-grade ram module.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 Did I say that? No, I believe I said that you're an idiot.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
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@thebsdguy
>Did I say that?
I said that they are different and you're arguing with me. Thus, you obviously believe that they are the same thing.
Either they are different or they are the same.
Me: Rain is wet
You: I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU!
Me: Only a fool would believe that rain isn't wet.
You: I NEVER SAID RAIN WASN'T WET!
Me: I said that rain is wet and you argued with me.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@nbglass
>Do you even look at the specs?
Unlike you, I can actually tell the fucking difference because I actually know something about technology.
>Those are marketing buzz words
Only to an ignoramus like you.
>Workstations are marketing hype for ill informed kids like you.
First off, I'm older than you are. Secondly, you need to tell ALL of the businesses that USE workstations that it is just marketing hype. Watch them laugh at you, dumbass.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
@sc0pl355 "Unlike you I can actually tell the difference because I actually".. You didn't answer my question. Did you look up the specs. No, you didn't. Instead you assumed. Which makes you look like the ass you are. Keep trying junior. Kids like you make me laugh with how grown up they try to be on youtube. Any other mommy and daddy words you'd like to type to make yourself look "all grown up"? LOL
nbglass 1 year ago
@nbglass
>Did you look up the specs.
I have alredy compared commercial and workstation motherboards and chipsets before. Several times.
Why don't you try being specific? There are literally thousands of different motherboards on the Market.
>Kids
I'm older than you are dumbass.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
looks like sc0pl355 has been on wiki again
dirtygore 1 year ago
@dirtygore
Look at dirtygore. Grasping at straws as usual.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
Resale value is all relative. I've owned macs and switched to PC and I've been happy ever since the switch. I was one of those few mac owners that had nothing but problems. I digress. I walked into a used computer store that had g4 dual core macs for sale. Guy wanted 600 for a dual core 800 mhz. I'm not a collector so I laughed at the price. Across town the same machine was 99 bucks. It comes down to demand. There's a big market for people that collect old technology and especially old macs.
nbglass 1 year ago
I could sell my old laptop for maybe $400 (it's 4 years old and it cost $1200 new) but I just gave it away.
I give old electronics away or give them to Goodwill, I don't have time to deal with stupid angry ebayers or retards.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
I'd rather build my own and minimize my losses. All electronics are losses. Selling a Mac for half of what its worth after 3 years is still more of a loss than me throwing my DIY box into the trash because the initial investment cost considerably less.
svtcontour 1 year ago
Eric ... you are screwing your subscribers (specially the young ones who don't know to check this)
What am I talking about? Tyr typing in the website and google, and the word scam after it ... yes people are getting ripped off from this website. Way to go Eric.
Se7enTips 1 year ago
This video just screams stupidity. Mac Pros cost twice as much as the Dell, so you'd expect the resale value to be twice as much. You have very little intelligence when it comes to logic and reasoning.
MrXrofl 1 year ago 2
lol....i have an old Sandisk Sansa Fuze Media Player, 4GB, and in good condition. i have everything in it and apparently its worth $8.
not that i would sell something small like this...might as well keep it handy if my ipod touch doesnt work, but its pretty funny.
corndog5595 1 year ago
Is there a service for this in the UK?
JorSex 1 year ago
Your not making $900.00 of the Mac Pro you idiot you have infact lost over$1,000.00. I bet the PC did not even cost $1000.00 brand new.
If you buy a Corvette for $50,000.00 and sell it for $25,000.00 two years later you have lost $25,000.00 dollars jackass. You have not made $25,000.00.
adobePC 1 year ago 6
@adobePC He really doesnt understand resale value. Its not a "I get x amount back vs your y amount, my resale is better", its more of a amount back to amount paid ratio. But then again, if you buy Mac, you really aren't smart with money in the first place.
kaosum2 1 year ago 5
@kaosum2
Look, if he were selling a Dell Precision 690 at the same spec as the Mac Pro, he wouldn't even get $400 for it as a resale item.
You can't claim that the Mac Pro costs more than the Dell precision because a 2006 dell precision at the same spec as a 2006 mac pro, costs $700 MORE than the Mac Pro.
Macs sell for a higher PERCENTAGE as a resale value in comparison to a PC of that price. End of story.
sc0pl355 1 year ago
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>you have infact lost over$1,000.00
Dumbass.
We've been over this. All computers depreciate in value. $900 for a 2006 Mac Pro is a good resale value.
>You have not made $25,000.00.
The resale value is $25,000 because the care depreciated in value.
sc0pl355 1 year ago 2
i think eric owned himself with this video. this is the kind of mistake macward makes all the time. your smarter than this eric.
dirtygore 1 year ago 3
would have been weird if they paid you the same as a dell or something for the price you paid for a mac...although would have been funny
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
This is gay
AlexPeegs 1 year ago
For my Apple iMac Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz 20'' that I bought in Dec 08 they are giving me $600. I paid almost $2000. Is that right????? I seams to me that I would have paid a lot less for a PC. Don't get me wrong. I LOVE Apple and I will never go back to PC. But, for me this web site is not a good deal......
quiles26 1 year ago
@quiles26 Finally someone who doesn't totally buy into the hype.
thebsdguy 1 year ago
anyone know how to get the spaces between the apps in the dock. i know how to get the flat dock but cant get spaces between the apps.
klassmjk4 1 year ago
Is there a windows laptop around that could actually equal the resale value of a mac based system? I think not...
asolomon15 1 year ago
there about the same if you take into account of how much you payed for the thing in the first place. dont you read the comments?
dirtygore 1 year ago
One of apples CEO's Jerome B. York died today! R.I.P. 3-18-10
macjsus 1 year ago
the mac pro doesn't compete with the studio, it competes with the precision... besides who cares if you get $500 more when you sell the mac, when you paid $1000 more for it when you bought it. oh, and wtf is with all the icons in the doc, holy shit dude!
thebeetalls 1 year ago
agreed...and considering macs immediately make you a faggot, you've your dignity you're paying with
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
@swisscheesepotatochi
Well if macs immediately make people faggots, I guess PCs immediately makes people dickless!
Coraxuss 1 year ago
shut up faggot...
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
@swisscheesepotatochi
You don't have a dick so GTFO.
Coraxuss 1 year ago
yep, keep talking fag, nobody likes you...
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
What part of "GTFO" did you not get twat rag. No one gives a shit about you anyways so your words don't mean Jack shit, now fuck off, it's passed your bed time anyways.
Stupid toddler shouldn't be allowed on YouTube.
Coraxuss 1 year ago
what part of shut the fuck up did you not understand...ah, im done with you. its pointless talking to some with such a thick skull
swisscheesepotatochi 1 year ago
@swisscheesepotatochi
I said get out already. Someone with an empty skull like yours shouldn't be here in the first place puking bullshit all over YouTube like a n00btard.
Now scram!
Coraxuss 1 year ago
Are you like twelve?
011100100110000101 1 year ago
@swisscheesepotatochi
Seriously, how old are you anyways?
NaziGOPBallmer 1 year ago
so i can now get a mac pro
thomasmovesinc 1 year ago
The 2.66Ghz Mac Pro was released at $2,500 (and that's not counting the extra ram) and if you sold it now for $988, you would be a retard because apple sells mac minis at a higher price and less features.
Furthermore, the dell is a core 2 quad and the Mac Pro uses ECC Memory and that's expensive and the memory in the mac alone is worth $600 and 16Gb of regular DDR2 is worth like $400.
So don't sell your stuff to gazelle.
commodore256 1 year ago 2
You would've paid more than the $400 difference up front for the Mac Pro.
Apple4evar 1 year ago
You're such a NARB holy shit. You realize the Mac Pro costs twice as much as the Dell Studio?? Jesus fucking Christ, you lose $1500 on the Mac Pro, whereas you only lose $1000 on the Dell. Get a fucking clue. It's like trying to explain that the moon spins on an axis to a dumbass.
PoliticalHell 1 year ago 2
Emeek is mathematically challenged when reality doesn't line up with his perceptions. If anyone thinks they are going to save money by buying a apple, they are not being realistic. Buy apple because you like the OS, or the aesthetic ... Emeek isn't fooling anyone.
liecatcher99 1 year ago
there a rip off on some items, said my brand macbook was worth 360 and I sold it 2 weeks ago for 850.00
jakemertz 1 year ago
The Dell Studio line didn't exist four years ago.
ikilluish 1 year ago
So the mac pro will be worth $1400+ more than my PC when i decide to sell it? because that's how much it would cost me in addition to buy in the first place. No? exactly.
TheMotherRick 1 year ago
super nice video. but remember you pay twice as more for your mac than the dell. the more you pay the more gazelle pays you. the less you pay (for the same system, but not a mac. the less you get) what thats means? you are paying for plastic, aluminum and all the materials your mac comes with. the same product and performance, pc comes shipper. keep sucking steve jobs dicck, hes getting more money and you keep sucking. maybe he sends you a appreciation check one of this days. peace. windows 7.
smokyesa1313 1 year ago
This video is indeed accurate. Even the older G4 PowerBooks still sell for several hundred dollars.
skyblast 1 year ago
@skyblast $300-400 for 5 year old laptops in proper working condition is normal
thebsdguy 1 year ago
thanks for the vie
idrummerboy13 1 year ago
You talk about Leo Laporte like he is your buddy. He didn't turn you on to Gazelle he got paid to tell you about a service that rips you off.
zachsilvey 1 year ago
@zachsilvey Where did leo get paid to tell you about the service, because i am a fan of Leo. He never said anything about it that i know of.
techhelper1 1 year ago
Gazelle is a sponsor of macbreak weekly. Go ahead an listen to the last two weeks episodes.
zachsilvey 1 year ago
oh and your insulting mac by yourself!! That difference of cash is how much overpriced macs are!
PCtechtips101 1 year ago
oh and your neighbor payed half of what the mac guy spent. So they are making the exact same money back..
PCtechtips101 1 year ago
Wow... pretty much the worst arguemnet ever... Obviously you will get more for a mac because they are overpriced....
PCtechtips101 1 year ago
If you want to sell your old electronics just use ebay, you'll get a lot more money even if it does take a little bit more work.
supercoolsephirothis 1 year ago
Duh! If You Paid More Money for it, of course the resell value will be higher than a windows machine.
bfhfsuruyw 1 year ago
what do they do with the stuff? Sell it right. Why not just sell it yourself on eBay and keep the money you make above what you were gonna get from them?
designedfor 1 year ago
I did a rundown of the numbers on these things, except that I don't know the specs on your Mac Pro, so I used the lowest end Mac Pro if you bought it then turned around and sold it as soon as you got it. I did the same with the Dell Studio.
Negative return on the Mac Pro: $1592
Negative return on the Dell Studio: $1,174.
You saved $418 by using the Dell, actually.
leodamascus 1 year ago
the reason i dont buy a mac is because i can do a lot more on a pc.
videogamer54 1 year ago
Since when is OS X spelt with a T?
GJJeagerjaques 1 year ago
no matter how right or wrong I am, there is no denying macs resale for more and that means something.
AppleSoldier 1 year ago
@AppleSoldier You are still losing more money on the investment of a Mac. I would rather take a loss of $1000 than $1599.
kaosum2 1 year ago