Amsah(Sheik) vs Jman(Fox)3

[meepyderp]

He only lasered when amash was stalling... only an idiots would walk over while sheik is vanishing on the ledge. I'd shoot lasers all day too.

[Alreadydonethis]

I love it how fox got killed so hot. agree with me please.

[quenchify]

Why does east coast camp when they're losing? Do they just do it so they can have time to think of strategy?

[wabitgirl]

I can't recall ever seeing a ledge camped quite that hard...made me laugh. Great players, shame on the first stock. ...and if anyone can tell me what in the hell happened on Amsha's first and Jman's third? Please?

[Amsah]

@wabitgirl

I gimped Jman, then screwed up my upB angle, killing myself. By doing that I also accidentally saved Jman (It was a total disaster), who in turn screwed up his angle and died anyway.

[wabitgirl]

@Amsah Thank you, Amsha. And props to you, and to Jman, for a match well...for an amusing match with some interesting tactics in it. I can't talk shit because you could both trash me six ways till Sunday and I know that, full well.

[Jonassoe]

Europe, bitches.

[ThisIsOchoa]

The ledge. It has been camped.

[AxelSlam45]

man i remember watching this from the stream and i wanted to kill myself.

[Silaeru]

That was really clever Ledge Camping at the end Amsah to force his approach, then a nice Ledge Guard to wrap it up.

[animestarxyz]

LOOOOL amsah cheering USA! Priceless

[xXxNoobKingxXx]

and nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

[untouchedking]

how did they get those melee skins in brawl?

[thegreatsolar]

And there's nothing wrong with what jman did, scrubs.

[doktadope]

@thegreatsolar

the people who call it "playing like a bitch" or "gay" are just mad they cant play smart like this...

[Th3xUnkn0wn]

@doktadope i don't know, just wait till people start playing like this all game every game. get 1 hit -> shino stall.

[wabitgirl]

@doktadope It's Annoying. As. FUCK. to watch for me, but that's because I main Fox and hate to see him lose XD. Amsha is a great player and you're right, there's nothing wrong with what he did... but man, how pissed would you be? It's hard to play when you're a stock down, meaning you have to get at least one kill, your opponent can gimp you and sac a stock and still win, or can just camp the edge where you practically can't hit him, for the rest of the game and still win. I'd be pissed.

[Triplethreat99]

@wabitgirl Well Jman started camping FIRST, he got beat at his own game, thats what he gets. Now he knows how his oponnets that he camps against feel when he beats them by camping the shit out of them.

[wabitgirl]

@Triplethreat99 I know he did, I'm just saying that Amsha camped harder and had a camp advantage. Perhaps that was a tactical miscalculation on Jman's part. Again, Amsha didn't do anything wrong, and you do what you have to when you want to win...But let's consider the fact that when you camp with Fox, the most you can do is rack a bit of percentage. Sheik can more or less camp to guarantee a win. But whatever. I'm going to stick with they both played well and could kick my ass, so I can't talk.

[simus0505]

@wabitgirl of course you can talk - a point isn't right or wrong based on the person saying it but the point being made... that being said, camping by both is a little different but essentially does the same thing. to me, fox is a little slipperier so is hella annoying to be camped with, but then again even though sheik is slightly easier to catch her needles have the knockback which is annoying in its own right. camping is camping and has the reputation it has for a reason.

[SmashVelox]

@thegreatsolar what are you talking about? he died.

[likemy]

@thegreatsolar oh look a butthurt fox main

[jr571]

1:25 is that a solid counter to the camping, or was Amsah baiting?

[gmjacks]

@jr571 You can steal the ledge from sheik, but obviously, if you get read or do it badly, you can get gimped for it.

[OdinsLoaf]

lol jman, next time you decide to camp to bring it back, commit to camping otherwise this shit happens

[4N0M4L0U55H1N081]

that final pic of fox in a fetal position says it all...

[victorgabriellopez]

Haters Gonna Hate

[tehIcy]

I counted 70 ledge grabs.

Rape.

[wirewolf45]

lol BOBACKIN!!!

[Tiajuan]

Jman got Screwed this match.Amsah did nothing wrong Jman just picked the wrong time to have bad luck.

[xx0Rain0xx]

Dick move, Amsah lol

[silentasasin93]

why the hell did he choose dreamland??? the cealing is way too high for a fox. poke stadium is a much better choice and if its banned he should have went to a neutral

[Amsah]

@silentasasin93

He last won on FD so he couldn't go there..

I banned Pokemon so he couldn't go there either..

He doesn't like small stages because he can't camp on them, so no FoD, BF or Yoshi..

That only leaves Dreamland (unless he decided to go on crack stages like RC or KJ64) =]

Also, DL64 *is* neutral..lol

[KeithDaThief]

at 3:31, who is that saying "this isnt brawl"? his voice is really annoying.

[Acherontic1]

ending never gets old. Can watch it again and again.... aaah love it

[rebaz]

you see that? fox got smacked, and felt like jumping off, what a little bitch.

[SylentRaine]

lol west coast is so cocky.

[pr0gressd]

usually i would be annoying with the camping, but considering what jman has done with his lasers back in the day...

[larsattack]

4:05 King DDD in the back ground like "Who talking about Brawl?" lol

[jhskater411]

I wanna pay Amsah to fly out to teach me how to play sheik. : D

[DjGyroGuru]

IT was a a good game can't hate. Why risk it play for the win, thats what i say.

[BuddhaLovax420x]

@DjGyroGuru but you don't win.....

[DjGyroGuru]

@BuddhaLovax420x What are you talking about? I'm talking about how Amsah camped in the end up one stock.

[Krazyknux]

That fox is straight garb

[Gamatsu]

USA / East Coast got raped after / while watching this match xD

[sos246]

amsah makes sheik look sexy

[CloneHat]

If this isn't stalling, what is?

[Amsah]

@CloneHat

I wasn't stalling, I was camping..=]

[Jolly2Lolly]

man, that was great. jman just approached once and died o.o

i'll play you someday, now i need to learn how to play in a decent way (you surely know aldwyn, he always 3stocks me, sometimes he even fullstocks me xD)

[BURNS33558]

jman camps all the time, you did awesome.

[CaptainCanada1]

This is the most hysterical match ever

[d34ful]

how about instead of camping, we call it playing it safe

REALLY SAFE

[IndigoR]

Amsah thought Jman was going to waveshine into a Down s=Smash @ 2:25.

[XxFS0FalcoxX]

this game rules r set to a 8min time limit, u can do whatever the fuck u want in those 8 mins, camping and more, stop bitchin

[Raizen126]

Commenters thinking that Amsah camped just to camp are funny. Outcamping a campy fox = <3. Amsah is the man. Jman ate it rough. Ahaha.

[FoxandHart]

<3 Amsah lol

[KeithDaThief]

wow thats all i have to do with shiek is get a hit and camp? melee has no ledge grab rules? shits easier than camping with wario, im goin back to melee

[Aronia55]

@KeithDaThief

Spoken like a true scrub.

[ilikeloling1]

were not gay we dont need ledge rules. theres more but obv stupid so ill leave it at that

[Panthro3000]

jman is the better player, just happened to sd, gg's though really good set

[Darkatma]

@Panthro3000 naw chief. jman can only win if he camps. this just shows what happens when someone who's better decides he aint gonna take that camping shit.

[xXxNoobKingxXx]

camp

[likemy]

That's what jman gets for playing like a little bitch

[SparkSSBM]

@likemy what are you talking about?

[likemy]

@SparkSSBM is that a joke?

[SparkSSBM]

@likemy its a question

[dewmsong123]

There's nothing wrong with what Amsah did.

[ArtemisGlitch]

Props for Jman for not giving up after that SD, and yeah, Jman was campin abit in match 1.

[itroll2vent]

CAMPING REVENGE FOR GREAT JUSTICE

amsah your sheik is sooo good!

[mastuhgamuh90]

HOLD DAT LEDGE!

[marsdMP]

I agree with amsah look at the first two matches jman was mad camping.

[AtomskOO]

jman coming back and amsah chaning into zelda help support my theory that camping is NOT a failproof strat. if amsah attacked and just kept making good decisions then we may have not seen that scare. Im not saying that camping is bad but like that "on the whole other side of the stage" shyt gets very rock paper scissors ish.and it almost worked in jmans favor.

[SnDLegendOfZelda]

Regardless of any camping before the last 20 seconds. I hate that Amsah kept camping when Jman stopped shooting lasers and was just ready to fight =/ Oh well. Good job to Amsah for doing so well.

[Amsah]

@SnDLegendOfZelda

No matter how much he looks like he's ready to fight, he's not. The second I got off the edge and approached him (like in the first and second match and at the beginning of this one) he would run away and laser camp my ass off again. He was baiting.

So rather than playing by his rules, I turned the tables around and forced *him* to approach me for once.

[Amsah]

*continued*

No one in their right mind would give away an advantage like that, especially against an opponent who wouldn't think twice about doing it to you.

And though some people seem to think otherwise, I have nothing but respect for Jman, he's one hell of a Fox to fight against and a nice person to talk to.. =]

No hard feelings right Jesus? <3

[chiZZLeSD]

@Amsah

honestly... its not a good idea to camp like that when youre losing anyway, lol. i cant see why what you did in this match was anything other than.. SMART. dont worry about it amsah. people in the US only call it "gay" if youre doing something good.. like.. winning lol

[SnDLegendOfZelda]

Yeah, true enough. That's the east coast for you lol. Nice job at Pound 4 Amsah.

[DuxlyHuxley]

@SnDLegendOfZelda Jman never stopped wanting to shoots lazers, he was baiting Amsah to come up to hit him with more lazers.

[danielfenger]

whats planking?

[Bones0]

/watch?v=1IzXR3W-f2I

[TheDarkComedian88]

People can say what they want but Jman SD'd and Amsah didn't. It's a mistake and it cost him big time but it the win is still legit.

[ImmortalVeteranPro]

the SDs has nothing to do with this. people are flaming amsah for camping when jman was the one who started doing that. amsah wouldnt have camped if jman didnt started.

people are still arguing about this shit when u CLEARLY can see that jman started camping + he camped against zgetto and strawhat (and possibly other players too)

[Rikana]

lol camping in Melee gets hype unlike Brawl.

[GorgouesBaby]

AANGEPAKT LEKKER!!!

[polo030]

pussy style o.o?

[nsbandit]

lol if this shit happens in brawl everyone starts whining but when it happens it melee its "play 2 win" . fags.

[Oosanbashi]

because in brawl its basically unbeatable whereas its hella beatable in melee, jman just sucks

ok jman doesnt suck but yeah lol

[ilikeloling1]

ledgegrab limit lolwut? failmoarbrawl

[GhostAE]

Amsah hahaha, that was so funny

[whogregwho]

goodness... somehow even camping in melee is more entertaining than in brawl.

[peyudosmith]

amsah: 'I could ledge stall in dreamland all day'

jman: D:

[crimson35124]

why is there a virusBLEWmage? when the real one if virusbluemage... is it VBM's alternate account or is faab fucking with US again?

[Virusblewmage]

I am not a troll. I just know smash.

[ThatAintFalco90]

Sheik is sooooo boring to watch, ugh.

[DisarrayINC]

@ThatAintFalco90 That's true for any sheik other than amsah's

[Aronia55]

Nah, European Sheiks in general are much funner to watch.

[GhostAE]

don't watch it then? And I like watching Sheik haha

[Aronia55]

The fox camping his ass off while he's behind was really entertaining though.

[Ivootjes]

good match, go amsah! =D

[Cornomaniac]

Amsah was playing pretty damn smartly; I really like his style even if it pisses some people off

[BobtheMoneythedbr]

Nihonjin ''camping'' if anything was showing Jman ''respect'' as a good fox player. Those lasers add up and taking UNNEEDED percent from possibly the best fox in the world isn't smart...I think people forget, in any 1v1 competition the loser has no one to blame but himself for loosing. So STFU and stop whining. This is a match you're watching not a match your playing for the prospect of winning 2-3 thousand dollars.

[Jolly2Lolly]

LOL, amsah is the only player who can camp effectively against fox.

[NEresTy]

I really don't understand why people are giving Amsah so much shit. Jman started camping first. Amsah started camping as a defense against Jman's camping and all of a sudden he's the bad guy? Get real you fucking scrubs.

[Anaki2gud]

like HMW said, he didn't have to approach, i'm pretty sure other players wouldve done the same (m2k)

m2k and amsah played friendlies for hours, idk if anyone recorded those but they prolly did sheik dittos at some point haha, i'd like to watch that.

[NonRandomUser]

Pitch some tents, looks like camping all weekend, son!

Props to Amsah and Jman, ignore the haters.

[KoopaDad]

ahhhhhhh nope. you forgot the biggest one of all. look for him in a mirror. dont look too hard though, or youll end up hurting yourself

[LWoodyard08]

LOL

Apparently you're the biggest faggot 24 people have ever seen

[ImmortalVeteranPro]

i have the image that united states got a lot of blind people, or how come u didnt notice jman was camping first? can you explain that to me, or maybe you cant read my comment cuz you are blind?

[GrandAdmiralShavy]

In all honesty, being one of the people saying "That ain't MK!" I do realize that Amsah was playing it very conservatively, which means an easy win for him.

Sometimes the crowd really can get jingoistic (myself included) for the US players, and such comments spew out.

I still <3 Amsah, as he has one of the best Sheiks on the planet. It's all 4 the lulz sometimes. :D

[zhiyahu]

If you want to get technical, Amsah was clearly the first one to start ledge camping

[GSFLuma]

you didnt watch match 1 and 2, did you?

[zhiyahu]

I did in fact. I was just stating what I saw in this match

[Acherontic1]

um, Jman clearly runs away lasering at 0:41 when Amsah has the lead.

[neoredroy]

jman's main strategy is to camp, his combo strings are amazing, his actual offense (from a neutral position, leading the aggression FIRST) is subpar. amsah camped jman back, jman had no answer - amsah won. that's just the game folks, man the hell up

[SwordSaint892]

Sucks that the suicide set the game to play out like this. The first two matches were amazing to watch, this one... not so much.

[Virusblewmage]

It's a shame that the only tournament set at the biggest melee tournament in the world between the best fox main in the world and the best sheik main in the world resulted in SDs and unbelievable camping.

[youjustfailed]

jman's not the best fox in the world. Mew2king still plays fox you know, actually M2K's shiek might could beat amsah's, regardless, jman's started camping, if you're claiming amsah was playing gay, he only did it to keep from losing to jman's laser camping. tl;dr: hop off jman's cock

[Virusblewmage]

I said best fox MAIN. And in that comment I said nothing negative towards Amsah. You just failed.

[youjustfailed]

I apologize, seeing all of your other posts just made me think you were blaming it on amsah.

[999windowsill]

That's a legitimate response to laser camping. Things probably wouldn't have been different lead or not.

[asdfggbby]

lololol people are so fucking stupid in this thread

amsah is not a pussy for camping

he's good

he beat jman

you guys should try doing that

[Bones0]

Amsah, please ignore Jman d-riders calling you a pussy. Firstly, camping is just another strategy when you are playing to win. Secondly, Jman was camping first. Thirdly, usually when someone starts camping when they are winning the loser accepts the fact that he must challenge instead of stalling the match for 5 minutes before challenging and getting gimped anyway.

[youjustfailed]

It's true you aren't alone, jman meatriders everywhere share this belief.

[Amsah]

@RDH987654321

Why..? =[

[AsylumSmash]

Because you did what you had to in order to win. You did great btw. I feel bad that people keep downing you. You're a great Sheik Amsah, keep it up. ~Asylum

[jhskater411]

@Amsah People where calling you a pussy because you took one of jmans main tactics and threw it right back in his face but better. Good shit Amsah. Cant wait to see sum more vids of ur sheik.

[LazyArigato]

@RDH987654321

getting edge camped because your laser spamming is what i call justice :3

[Acherontic1]

the definition of this match is JUSTICE.

[Looc105]

that read at the end was amazing. he just waited and waited and got the kill

[Looc105]

If you're gonna get your dick in a bunch, he baited the fuck outta him. But it amazes me of the 50 damn times he did the Shino stall, he just HAPPENED to get back on the stage at that moment and how he knew he was going to jump. Blows me away. Might be thinkin too hard

[vixtemplar]

Jman got boned at P4 with misfortune. Sorry man.

[Apalachian]

lol requiemsword, this is why morons shouldn't play smash

good shit amsah

[GawdImTom]

Amsah won though. ;)

[whatacoinkidink]

@requiemsword You're an idiot

[firefly808]

Learn to play tournament

[RandomSeeker00]

@requiemsword Try being less of a dumbfuck. Amsah played to win, that's the deal with competitions (unless rules are broken, which was not the case), doesn't matter if you think it's gay or not.

That being said, well played Jman and Amsah.

[ImmortalVeteranPro]

fuckin fagget are every guy in this commentary on jmans nuts? how come every1 blames amsah for DOING THE SAME FUCKIN THING DAT JMAN DID!??! fuckin blind ass pussy. hop off jmans nuts and open ur eyes before u open your mouth.

jman got extra raped here imo. he started to camp but still lost even tho hes fox and amsah is sheik. jman did the same thing to zgetto btw so stfu

[Virusblewmage]

stop johning.

[ImmortalVeteranPro]

johns? jman camped first, amsah planked afterwards > amsah raped him. i wasnt johning for any1. in fact, all these dickriders are johning for jman haha

[YandereTan]

Jman is campy as fuck fox yet no one complains when he's laser camping. Amsah gets the lead and starts camping him and everyone shits a brick.

He said himself that Jman was the only person he camped because he was camping back.

[D1MX]

WAFFLE change this to game 3!!!

[GCLU]

The Shino Stall...is so legit....

I am east coast...and I need to say this to all of the comments, no johns.

[meeniepoo]

That ain't Metaknight. xD

[magicalsauce]

good shit amsah,

[SKStylez]

amsah had the right to camp really JMan shoulda respected the fact that he was losing. He tried to keep the same playstyle from the start but that doesnt work when youre down a stock

[chiZZLeSD]

im not trying to make jman look stupid by asking but, why did he start camping when he was losing?

[Amsah]

@chiZZLeSD

My guess is that he was hoping I wouldn't camp him even though I was ahead, and I wasn't going to at first, but then I remembered his matches against Zgetto & the first match and decided to give him a taste of his own medicine..=]

[D1MX]

LOL damn. Well you did well bro!

[Vwashk]

Amsah is a pretty cool guy eh planks people in Melee and doesnt afraid of anything

I've been wanting to rewatch this match since I first saw this match on the livestream. Too damn good.

[Dazwa070]

it's like i'm really watching brawl!

[NEresTy]

Smart play by Amsah.

[Virusblewmage]

Both of these players are good

[LirokMurasame]

all these europe folks keep losing game one then winning the match. mad adaptable

[Wendiesel]

LAWLLL DAN RAWFUL

but yeah get raped

[LirokMurasame]

still watch these to get nastalgic?lol

[WarRock97]

That ain't Metaknight!!!!

Shiek player is amazing.

[Ribskinski]

Seriously, think about it. If you traveled overseas for HUGE tournament and then your opponent SD'd a stock during a crucial 3rd game in Losers Quarters, wouldn't you be happy?

Amsah is legit.

[IAmBlu3]

people, stop bitching about amsah camping. he camped against a camper. even match now. can't believe ya'll can sit there and watch jman camp, but get your panties in a know when amsah does it >_>

[IAmBlu3]

knot*

[flame6753]

amsah is the shit

[wirewolf45]

Amash is patient and waited for the right moment to capitalize on jman's mistake.