And it's great that this game doesn't have an activation server to rely on, so I can install it on my current pc from my cds that I bought years ago and be able to play it. Would Duke Nukem 3D be playable today if it had to rely on activation servers? Most likely not, because the servers probably wouldn't still exist today to activate it on my current PC.
So how to get the nice new gibbings and blood? The hrp im using now dosent have that, but before my hdd crashed i had some great looking blood and stuff in duke3d. and no i didnt download anythign other then hrp.
I just got this game... and it runs really quick. I'm not sure if that's the real speed or is there anything I could do to make it slower? It's almost imposible jumping on the first box lol.
Correct, 4.0 is the latest official release at the moment. However, there's a 4.1.1 update pack on the official website although IIRC it's only recommended if you're using the Polymer render that comes with the latest EDuke32 version.
this game is so awesome and it works on Vista lol bioshock and other recent games have problems on vista.And yea this game is just about fun it's nothing serious in it,no realism ....that's how games should be.Why do everybody cares about the graphics?I mean how much time can you spend looking at the graphics
Also almost all comments here are positive and everybody is getting along.:)) weird
man, i downloaded this and i'm playing it right now, and it's effing amazing!! the graphics, the enhanced mode, complete with weapon reloading, double barreled-shotgun^^, storing of medpacks for later use, and much more, makes this a totally must-play.
i mean, i played the original to death, but this is more than enough reason to want to play it to death!! again!! XD
Duke3d HRP and polymost is an obvious FAILURE. Polymost with the original textures look bleached, sprites look like papercuts, colors, shadows are all screwed. The HRP graphics is ugly, especially for the monsters. They look out of place in the original levels.
Instead of wasting a lot of time for nothing, next time trust the professionals to do this better.
yo ppl i have a big problem i got duke nukem 3d full game and blood full game and they have both same problem: i save my progress and next day i start playing BOOM i have to start it all over again it simply wont save??? anybody plz what could be the cause of that???
I remember when I was little I loved this game (I still do) and those octopus things used to scare the shit outta me and when ever my brotherwas playing and I watchted him I always hid cos they were freaky LOL.
Cool... brings up the good old days,when i was 7 or so :). Good work on the HRP.i didnt know a game that old could look that good after some makeup... respect dude !
In many ways the HRP makes the game look worse. The backrounds around are great and so are most of the weapon models, but some weapon models are god awful, they don't match the quality of the others. Same problem with character models. Many of the originals look better than the modified models. Some objects have this same problem too. That's why I removed some of the new content.
LoL, yeah almost everyone that is born in the 90's has played DooM or Duke Nukem 3D when they were about 4 years old( I played DooM when i was even smaller!:D
Definately not. Duke Nukem 3d brought so much more to the FPS genre then Doom did. It brought more helarity to games, a much better engine then Doom had, and much better graphics. It didn't take place on Mars's moons or on hell either. Plus you don't play as some space marine you don't know anything about you play as Duke Nukem. One of the most kickass game characters of all time
Hey i have just started to play Duke nukem 3D and i must say i had to look up a walkthrough to pass the 3rd level. I couldnt find a secret passage behind a wall. So far its been pretty hard but still a great game.
Except that the latest rumours point to it being only for XBox 360. They're going to lose a dedicated fan base if they do that. Unless it's so bad that's why they might be keeping it away from the PC platform...
Whut da f**k? no more sprites?? its unbelievable... didnt play this game since 8 years or longer... unbelievable. time to restart! Is the music a part of this new version?
Downloadable game on Torrents and P2P networks. The High Res pack was made by people on the internet and is not avialable commercially. I own the original on CD-ROM. Awesome game. USe to play it when i was a kid. NOw getting back to playing Doom and Quake series.
That's for you to see... Can you imagine yourself playing Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Crysis, Black or BioShock after 10 years? I can't! These old games are the real deal, man, THIS is fun!
I'd say =P . These games are classics, even if DukeNukem Forever comes out, i doubt it will have the same feeling as the old one or i really hope it does because it looks awesome.
Dude, here's what I think... Graphics aren't even 10% of the game. It doesn't have to be that good-looking, it's got to be FUN like the old ones are. Don't you agree?
Ha ha, now this is what youtube needs more of: people getting along rather than raping each other with hate loaded comments. lol, maybe what youtube needs more of is a bit of Duke =D .
It's typical for nl3paul3nl to say such a thing. If you ask me he's a bit of a twat. If it ain't up to date he'll fap about it. It was made in 2006 for crying out loud. The most up to date version wasn't even out back then :/
is that the only difference between the n64 version and the pc version i also heard the pc version had more stages si can i ask you wich game was better
Hell ya!! I'm going back into my collection and trying to beat games like Duke nukem,shadow warrior, Quake, doom, wolfenstein,marathon...just to name a few of cours!
And it's great that this game doesn't have an activation server to rely on, so I can install it on my current pc from my cds that I bought years ago and be able to play it. Would Duke Nukem 3D be playable today if it had to rely on activation servers? Most likely not, because the servers probably wouldn't still exist today to activate it on my current PC.
mikewalker1977 7 months ago
0:31, Oh, so not all YouTube moderators are homo
TTTJackson 7 months ago
So how to get the nice new gibbings and blood? The hrp im using now dosent have that, but before my hdd crashed i had some great looking blood and stuff in duke3d. and no i didnt download anythign other then hrp.
volvo145 8 months ago
this video is amazing... check out my duke nukem 3d trailer :D
Anakin8th 9 months ago
@Anakin8th Saw your thread at the GBX forums. :D
Forsete 9 months ago
@Forsete that's pretty cool... :D
Anakin8th 9 months ago
18 people are going to be kicked by The King (:
solda97 10 months ago
You had me at Lets Rock!
STAMFADERNA 11 months ago
Omg giant nipples
trabuco9 1 year ago
man it sucks a 2008 intel graphics EVEN LAGS WITH THIS ON!!!!
halfhalo33 1 year ago
@halfhalo33
Intel graphics suck. ROFL
KHKProduction 1 year ago 2
@KHKProduction thanks for saying the obvious.
halfhalo33 1 year ago
Hail to the king, baby.
Swanton619OfDX 1 year ago
TITIES!!!!!!1111one1111oneone
Headhunters1000 1 year ago
"Damn... I'm lookin' good!"
- Duke Nukem
bicostp 1 year ago
"This is KTIT, K TIT, playing the brass uhhh, the best tunes in town..."
Y0mAMa5957 1 year ago
HRP is like duke nukem forever what have looked like.
thebadroo 1 year ago
Hi
I just got this game... and it runs really quick. I'm not sure if that's the real speed or is there anything I could do to make it slower? It's almost imposible jumping on the first box lol.
Thanks.
oasisbeyond 2 years ago
Where did you get it???
buy or download?
(i prefer orginal graffics but this is cool too lol 0:30 xD )
TheGuitarandgames 2 years ago
lol
oasisbeyond 2 years ago
omg 0:30
samu350 2 years ago
Where would it be possible to download the music track in this video starting at 16 seconds
wwarriorww 2 years ago
its not much better with the hi-res pack, it just takes longer loading xD
de4th112 2 years ago
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sErBaSoNiK 2 years ago
Correct, 4.0 is the latest official release at the moment. However, there's a 4.1.1 update pack on the official website although IIRC it's only recommended if you're using the Polymer render that comes with the latest EDuke32 version.
Forsete 2 years ago
oh also use duke plus when u play with the hrp. awsome game with or with out hrp.
dzero247 2 years ago
how did u record this video and upload it?
Sssg0191 2 years ago
does the hrp work on dosbox? im gonna sell my retro pc and im using dosbox so will it work?
th3Bl00dfu3l3d 2 years ago
No. You need a source port that supports the HRP like EDuke32 or JFDuke3D.
Forsete 2 years ago
if there was more maps id play duke 3d forever never get bored
30GB 2 years ago
What rating did this game get for poorly animated tits?
Frusciantefan77 2 years ago
Ahhh.......I remember when I saw this on Google Video years ago...............good times
Bouncer9000 2 years ago
this game is so awesome and it works on Vista lol bioshock and other recent games have problems on vista.And yea this game is just about fun it's nothing serious in it,no realism ....that's how games should be.Why do everybody cares about the graphics?I mean how much time can you spend looking at the graphics
Also almost all comments here are positive and everybody is getting along.:)) weird
JakeDunnNomad 2 years ago 8
@JakeDunnNomad its best to run all your games on wiinXP
RyuHoly 7 months ago
original graphics were better
nyy4288 2 years ago
man, i downloaded this and i'm playing it right now, and it's effing amazing!! the graphics, the enhanced mode, complete with weapon reloading, double barreled-shotgun^^, storing of medpacks for later use, and much more, makes this a totally must-play.
i mean, i played the original to death, but this is more than enough reason to want to play it to death!! again!! XD
torque800 2 years ago
GOOD WORK
saintaureus 2 years ago
Duke's not dead, fool.
Always bet on Duke.
CommonChild 2 years ago 8
duke nukem youre the best hero what whe have
R.I.P duke we will miss ya
Goodluck on PSP and DS
*DUKE NUKEM FOREVER*
jeffreyverhagen 2 years ago
You are talking to an animated character? LOL
lukassstyyy 2 years ago
we`ll miss you duke.. R.I.P
manuel2582 2 years ago
The best game of all times
WarriorAzorth 2 years ago
it must be a good game in earlier time
JL99JL 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Duke3d HRP and polymost is an obvious FAILURE. Polymost with the original textures look bleached, sprites look like papercuts, colors, shadows are all screwed. The HRP graphics is ugly, especially for the monsters. They look out of place in the original levels.
Instead of wasting a lot of time for nothing, next time trust the professionals to do this better.
djonas79 2 years ago
What? A failure? Get the fuck out of here.
Forsete 2 years ago
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zombiesupastar 2 years ago
"next time trust the professionals to do this better. "
sorry I want to play a 3d duke nukem BEFORE 2050
*ba dum tish*
zombiesupastar 2 years ago 3
the game is much similar at Doom2
tf294 2 years ago
nahhh it far way better
Fahrice 2 years ago 3
were can i get the original version of duke nukem atomic
nuckem64 2 years ago
Now thats a boomsick!
ServoStarwind 2 years ago
gotta love that rocket launcher
zyriuz2 2 years ago
game is beter without high res
PersianLord1995 2 years ago
I can has!?
zombiesupastar 2 years ago
good ol` days!
tomka05 2 years ago 4
TOMORROW RELEASE THE NEW VERSION OF DUKE NUKEM HRP V4.0!!!!
visit hrpupdate(.)duke4(.)net/ for more info
brunocio 3 years ago
It's coming a new HRP for Duke Nukem 3d!
fpscreatorfan 3 years ago
wneever i play ingame it loads the enemies :( and i have to wait 10 seconds
ikopiko909 3 years ago
"Check weapons at door."
Games with good humor are rare and Duke Nukem is definetely one of them.
jamsy00 3 years ago
yo ppl i have a big problem i got duke nukem 3d full game and blood full game and they have both same problem: i save my progress and next day i start playing BOOM i have to start it all over again it simply wont save??? anybody plz what could be the cause of that???
hugecumshot 3 years ago
the last version is the 3.11
download it!!
brunocio 3 years ago
wish they had those on a soundboard. "Har matey!"
wardzy2006 3 years ago 2
I love part with girls boobies. Hope that someone will make more girls models for this game in full 3d, not 2d sprite.
bqqqaez 3 years ago
eh... no comment...
Domebuddy 3 years ago
yes we all love animated boobies
fadednoise 3 years ago
0:50
fpscreatorfan 3 years ago
0:30
fpscreatorfan 3 years ago
how can u reccomend it when u havnt told us where 2 get it?
Deimos143 3 years ago
You could've easily found it by a simple Google search without typing that useless comment.
Sigh, kids these days are so friggin' lazy.
Forsete 3 years ago
yup, agreed.
duke is cool but blood is better (I think (personally))
ilikemyhandsbloody 3 years ago 2
you are lazy too :) you could give this guy a link... heheh ;) just iding... trailer is awsome
Fahrice 2 years ago
Obviously you didn't watch the video either.
Forsete 2 years ago
Besides, if you even watched the video you'd see the link at the end.
Forsete 3 years ago
but i keep coming to that site and that one wont work on my version -.-
Deimos143 3 years ago 2
lol i played this game when i was like 3 now its on the xbox 360 arcade games kick ass
monday362 3 years ago
I remember when I was little I loved this game (I still do) and those octopus things used to scare the shit outta me and when ever my brotherwas playing and I watchted him I always hid cos they were freaky LOL.
haropro2 3 years ago 2
Looks like an old version because i think i saw the battle lord in 2D still.
metalsnake27 3 years ago
Cool... brings up the good old days,when i was 7 or so :). Good work on the HRP.i didnt know a game that old could look that good after some makeup... respect dude !
nihilusJ90 3 years ago
In many ways the HRP makes the game look worse. The backrounds around are great and so are most of the weapon models, but some weapon models are god awful, they don't match the quality of the others. Same problem with character models. Many of the originals look better than the modified models. Some objects have this same problem too. That's why I removed some of the new content.
PopcornCoolie 3 years ago
This looks pretty badass with new graphics
IamAlwaysRight 3 years ago
lol this is k tit playing the breast i mean best tunes in town lol for being such an old game it has pretty good graphics
dodgekickzass 3 years ago
Ask your mom to buy it for you for christmas.
Or birthday.
standardbearer 3 years ago
Duke Nukem is kicking aliens assess while chewing bubble gum, and he's all outta gum, but he blows it out your assess, with his Balls Of Steel,
Hey lookie here, I've created a poem!
Ginteru 3 years ago 2
HRP KICKS FUCKIN ASS.
I should buy this and run it on my Dual Core 1.8 Ghz laptop.
whitecollarcriminal 3 years ago
the girls in this game are sooo hardcore :3, doing THAT when the planet is infested with aliens n shit.
fragmaster345 3 years ago 2
HRP kicks ass.
Y0mAMa5957 3 years ago
Great game! Great trailer! Well done!
Bayern2004 3 years ago
This game is working on Vista!
DiamondClaw1991 3 years ago 2
That's my first game on my first computer! I love it, that's great game.
moris44 3 years ago
Awesome!
GREENhent 3 years ago
lol, it seemed everyone played this game when they were 4-9.
CalibusTheCrab 3 years ago 2
I played it when I was 4! Thinking about that back then makes me feel pretty badass. XD
Fartbomb14 3 years ago 3
lol, Same!
CalibusTheCrab 3 years ago 3
i played it too when i was 4 :DD
jackal9526 3 years ago
haha yeah I think I played this when I was like 7 or 8. The good days before jack thompson's :P. I think it was my first computer game too.
RedBullet613 3 years ago
LoL, yeah almost everyone that is born in the 90's has played DooM or Duke Nukem 3D when they were about 4 years old( I played DooM when i was even smaller!:D
doomhunter175 3 years ago
That's true, actually, now that you mention it. I played this game when I was roughly 5.
Those Ocotbrains used to scare the...well, you get the picture.
GreatFox42 3 years ago
how i like this game
jokis125 3 years ago
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classic game . so much fun but its really just a doom knock off
wonkachocolate69 3 years ago
Definately not. Duke Nukem 3d brought so much more to the FPS genre then Doom did. It brought more helarity to games, a much better engine then Doom had, and much better graphics. It didn't take place on Mars's moons or on hell either. Plus you don't play as some space marine you don't know anything about you play as Duke Nukem. One of the most kickass game characters of all time
JBCGriffin 3 years ago 3
Hey i have just started to play Duke nukem 3D and i must say i had to look up a walkthrough to pass the 3rd level. I couldnt find a secret passage behind a wall. So far its been pretty hard but still a great game.
geoff390 3 years ago 2
true on most points but let's not go completely out of perspective here.
Duke Nukem did come out around the era of Quake. a full 2-3 years after Doom.
if it weren't for Doom, there might not have been a Duke 3D as we know it today, anyway.
Keep in mind, when the shareware version of doom came out, it spread like wildfire and truly defined the genre where Wolf3d did not.
Duke 3d expanded on that further, true, but let's not go giving Duke Nukem all the credit where Doom has some too.
BouncyTEM 3 years ago 3
yep and when duke nukem forever comes out it might match doom 3 which scared the crap out of people lol ..
gio426 3 years ago
Doom 3 sucked. DNF wont suck, it will rock
Lenin2304 3 years ago 3
Except that the latest rumours point to it being only for XBox 360. They're going to lose a dedicated fan base if they do that. Unless it's so bad that's why they might be keeping it away from the PC platform...
sobchuk 3 years ago
dude are u retarded?
how can DNF not come out on the PC?
I swear the PC will be the first platform it will be released on
Lenin2304 3 years ago
yeah, if it ever comes out.
and Doom 3 didnt suck.
zacz19 3 years ago 2
This game is the best,fuck the rest,
Forsete mate,from me you've got a 5 star rate
Duke rocks!!!!!!!!
MyPasswordIsFuckOff 3 years ago 4
ahh this game takes me back...to when i was like 10 years old [16 now]....i played it heaps back then
koyh 3 years ago 6
this is a professional duke3d player. let's modem deathmatch at 9600 baud now hehe
haxter1234 3 years ago
the best game ever
LamboBenni 3 years ago 3
hear the megadeth cover of this song
Blackenedbarman 3 years ago
omg it looks amazing... how do you get this version of duke nukem 3d with the good graphics?
thatgrat 3 years ago 4
The best game ever... I really love this game!! It' s my childood...
porcaevaaaa 3 years ago 5
why is cheaper grafix is always better
ssslate 3 years ago
SHIIIIT!
When i run the high res pack of the game it run slowly.
But it may be coz i pirated it
TheVideogameKid 3 years ago
do the levels load slow or does the WHOLE game go slow? The levels alwasy load slow, cause it takes awhile to change all the sprites into 3d models.
metalsnake27 3 years ago
do the levels load slow or does the WHOLE game go slow? The levels alwasy load slow, cause it takes awhile to change all the sprites into 3d models.
metalsnake27 3 years ago
But it's definitely worth it :D
Gunner193 3 years ago
i played this game since i was 3 or 4. im 15 and still playing it. =] go duke!! =D
AmericanIdiot98 3 years ago
what! Same here man! I'm 15 too and i can't freekin wait till Duke Nukem - Forever comes out =P , for an oldie this game is legendary.
Keselo3 3 years ago
WTF my boys! I'm 17 and completely addicted to this game! It's a legend!
Gunner193 3 years ago 2
Whut da f**k? no more sprites?? its unbelievable... didnt play this game since 8 years or longer... unbelievable. time to restart! Is the music a part of this new version?
kupferbolzen07 3 years ago
Nope, it's the classic Grabbag song...
Gunner193 3 years ago
Yeah, now I have this HiRes pack! OMG, it beats Quake 2 ANY DAY!
Gunner193 3 years ago 2
Aww, I wish my girlfriens had curves like those (nips too)...
Gunner193 3 years ago 2
Wicked man loved duke nuckem since i was young
robertjr556 3 years ago 3
this game was awesome even without the hrp. 5/5 for the good trailer and infinity out of 5 for making a duke nukem vid =)
FearTheNutt 3 years ago 3
where can i buy the game?
modda1028 3 years ago
Downloadable game on Torrents and P2P networks. The High Res pack was made by people on the internet and is not avialable commercially. I own the original on CD-ROM. Awesome game. USe to play it when i was a kid. NOw getting back to playing Doom and Quake series.
PearlJammer07 3 years ago 2
That makes two of us... DOSBox rules!
Gunner193 3 years ago
That make's three of us =D , Duke , Doom and Quake f'n rule, especialy for games made almost or over 10 years ago.
Keselo3 3 years ago
That's for you to see... Can you imagine yourself playing Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Crysis, Black or BioShock after 10 years? I can't! These old games are the real deal, man, THIS is fun!
Gunner193 3 years ago 2
I'd say =P . These games are classics, even if DukeNukem Forever comes out, i doubt it will have the same feeling as the old one or i really hope it does because it looks awesome.
Keselo3 3 years ago 2
Dude, here's what I think... Graphics aren't even 10% of the game. It doesn't have to be that good-looking, it's got to be FUN like the old ones are. Don't you agree?
Gunner193 3 years ago
Hell yeah, it's got to have "feeling" as i say, and to keep it's originality and quirkiness. Else it wouldn't be Duke, and it wouldn't be fun.
Keselo3 3 years ago
Now I'll shut up, you said it all, Keselo! :D
Gunner193 3 years ago
Ha ha, now this is what youtube needs more of: people getting along rather than raping each other with hate loaded comments. lol, maybe what youtube needs more of is a bit of Duke =D .
Keselo3 3 years ago 3
Lol, I agree :D
PS: There's just a motherload of noobs here XD
Gunner193 3 years ago
Hell yea, Duke rules!
Fuck crysis! "Its all about the graphics" omg what about the fun? Cryisis has no fun, but Duke is just full of it
Lenin2304 3 years ago 5
I ALWAYS say that...
Gunner193 3 years ago
that weapon on 00:28 soo cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny953 3 years ago
This game is priceless...
Lenin2304 3 years ago 5
Strip club us the best part of the game to me, and the music, and the violence and witty comebacks. I LOVE THIS GAME!
aklm0462 3 years ago 2
And those bouncing hi-res boobs! Gotta love them!
Go, Duke, go!
Gunner193 3 years ago
5555 STAR!!!
i Love Duke*
TheDemonsDead 3 years ago 2
Really kickass!
Lenin2304 4 years ago 2
high res pack rocks
FELIPEPKPK 4 years ago 3
ok :)
fedesen6 4 years ago
this is a remake of duke nukem 3D isnt it?
fedesen6 4 years ago 3
No, it's just a download to change a whole bunch of the textures. And making things 3d.
LordKratosofpwn 4 years ago 2
how to make a dn video??
nl3paul3nl 4 years ago
Isn't that what they call 3D models? Because i have 3D models for Doom.
doomhunter175 4 years ago 3
I RECALLL ALL THESE LEVELS
jim135666 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the battlelords arent in hrp,
you used original shots for it.
so i give 2 stars
nl3paul3nl 4 years ago
This is an outdated trailer for the HRP, look at the date.
Forsete 4 years ago
It's typical for nl3paul3nl to say such a thing. If you ask me he's a bit of a twat. If it ain't up to date he'll fap about it. It was made in 2006 for crying out loud. The most up to date version wasn't even out back then :/
Damocles178 2 years ago
I also played this when I was little, Like Goldeneye 007 and Doom and stuff... although I'm a LOT better now then I was before.
Dangerousd777 4 years ago 3
This is how you know that Forever is taking way to long time when they are making a 3D rendition of their game ^^
DeimosFacility 4 years ago
3DRealms didn't make this though.
Forsete 4 years ago
haha i havnt played duke in like 8 years and i still remember the cheats
bryanskipp1 4 years ago
hey is this ported to linux as id like to try it on that i dunno but you cant get it for free
kieranfletch 4 years ago
man there was acually nudaty in a n64 game wow
weluvy66 4 years ago
This is the PC version. Duke was first released on the PC, then it was ported.
Mutough 4 years ago
well actualy the version for the n64 had all the nudety taken out, the duke nukem version for th cpu was the only one with nudity
kylegreene1 4 years ago
PSX Port also has Nudity
OmegaCoolster 4 years ago
is that the only difference between the n64 version and the pc version i also heard the pc version had more stages si can i ask you wich game was better
razorspawn 4 years ago
Hell ya!! I'm going back into my collection and trying to beat games like Duke nukem,shadow warrior, Quake, doom, wolfenstein,marathon...just to name a few of cours!
undergay 4 years ago
wow i cant belive i played this when i was little
lit150 4 years ago
good ole days ahhhhh
yugox9 4 years ago 3
Yea the good ol'days!
postal2aw 4 years ago
The classics never die! "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum! And I'm all outta gum!!"
gavman1988 4 years ago
MEMORYS!! i REMEMBER THESE LEVELS SO MUCH.. i may have to play the entire series again. Theirs like 200 odd sum levels.
jim135666 4 years ago
This is the best ego shooter ever, for me.
Johnnsen 4 years ago 3
Word.
highsimondrums 4 years ago
WOW!!!
that game is maaa old
I used to play it when i was maaa little.
But I only remember a few levels, tricks, shortcuts, weapons, and gameplay.
EFRENURENAG 4 years ago
OMG! BIG BUGS!!!!
kovidomi 4 years ago
where do u get the high res version of duke nukem 3D?
skatexpress 4 years ago
google it!!
AmericanIdiot98 4 years ago
be aware because i upgraded duke nukem to hrp and it rebooted my computer.
shindogg 4 years ago
worked great for me on the atomic pack of duke i had
skatexpress 4 years ago