That's gorgeous ! Did you find the year ? I recently rewarded myself (for finishing college) with a custom black beauty. SN: CS 001187. I had to call Gibson to figure it out. apparently mines a 2010, although I have no idea how the numbers work.
search on google for 6230-gibson-logo and click on the first page there. At the second page, first picture is without the dot on the i and is from a 69 SG standard... but go to first page and look the 77 model has exactly same logo as mine.. comment nr. 26 btw.
thanks for last year comments, sorry I havent replied all but will try more efficiently from now on.
it is a 69-73 les paul custom (most probably 71 though)
about the logo on headstock, it is known that several 70´s model have it without the dot on the i, aswell as minor differences on the letters... check the G and how the O and N are conected on comment nr. 26 (look at the right top corner of the messages at...
To be more shure you can get in touch whit the Gibson service and ask them to give you some infos.
Due to the several changes in Gibson serialization procedures, sometimes it's very difficult also for them to date precisely a guitar only from the serial, but giving them the serial plus some closeups pics of the guitar sometimes they can menage to date it anyway and tell you if looks all original.
At list that's what I did to date my 1973 Les Paul custom cherry sunburst
sorry bro i rechecked the website and i was wrong sorrry....forgive me ? and u might wanna polish it dude its too pretty a guitar too have smudges on it :) god i wish i could get one but me be too poor and too young to get a job lol -_- child labor laws suck!!
not the modern les paul this isnt authentic flamed maple top notice the abcensce of of verticaal streaks in the body ? this an older models but i will not say its fake becuase it is a real one. rock on mate
@oAero210o Just because it lacks flamed maple doesn't mean its old.... They've had flamed maple guitars forever.... And LP custom they make today still doesn't come with a flamed top.
when has anyone seen a les paul thats over 3000$ and is missing the dot on the i im not bashing but some copies have been known to read of real ones ?
@joshjames086 Ya, i love how people assume that the formula for S/Ns always gives you the correct info! Gibson has to have had the worst S/N system ever....
@ebouwman034 They did, up until 1978. It pretty straightforward now. 1st and 5th digits after '78 are the year, you can even tell what day of the year it was made by the 2nd, 3rd, 4th numbers. Custom shop models still sometimes have messed up S/N's though.
I own a Les Paul Custom as well just bought it but don't really have much info on it, the serial number on neck is 01433947 could someone please comment on this so I will get it to my email? Thanks a bunch, oh it's a sunburst in colour
it's an '03 model. 1st digit and 5th digit (0-3) tell you the year on LP's built in the last 35 years or so. 2nd 3rd and 4th digits (143) tell what day of the year it was built.
I was reading oldest messages first, and though... what? a 2003 lol.. I had mine loooong before that! :P but I did read Newfoundbiker comment, and understood.
btw Newfoundbiker... with a so new guitar as yours, you should try asking into a guitar forum (gibson forum) instead of here. But Im glad you got your answer. :)
i havea satellite version of that it came iwthout a pick card but i added a white one and painted mt switxh plate white and my number one pickup white and left the other black.
Unfortunately these are the least desirable of all LPs b/c of the cost cutting efforts made during the Norlin era. However your LP is certainly authentic and current value even for Norlin LPs are in the 3-4K range. Most ppl think that they are only suitable for firewood but I disagree. If it feels and sounds good to you that is all that should matter. If you would like more info on Norlin LPs just search the web, plenty of info available.
Well, may be a Norlin one, but must be of the good ones (lucky me!) :P , Every friend musician and sound engineer that has recorded me, has always commented on how great my gibson sound in comparisson to others (and they have heard and even played lots of them).
Continued: The Recording featured low-impedance pickups, many switches and buttons, and a highly specialized cable for impedance-matching to the amplifier. Less noticeable changes included, but were not limited to, maple fingerboards (1976), pickup cavity shielding, and the crossover of the ABR1 Tune-o-matic bridge into the modern day Nashville Tune-o-matic bridge. During the 1970s, the Les Paul body shape was incorporated into other Gibson models, including the S-1, the Sonex, the L6-S, and
Continued: The LP body was changed from a one piece mahogany with a maple top into multiple slabs of mahogany with multiple pieced maple tops (also called a "pancake body').
In this era, as well, Gibson began experimenting with new models such as the Les Paul Recording. This model is often eschewed by guitar purists[citation needed]: considered "too full of gadgetry".[citation needed]
Taken from Wiki: Subsequent years brought new company ownership to the Gibson Guitar Company. During the "Norlin Era", Gibson Les Paul body designs were greatly altered, most notably, the change to the neck volute. Because the Les Paul had the reputation of having an easily broken neck joint, the volute strengthened the neck where it joined the headstock to avert breakage. To further increase the strength, the neck woods were changed from mahogany to a three-piece maple design.
This is what is known as a "Norlin Era" Les Paul and is evident from the 3 piece (pancake) body and neck volute. These were made from 1969 to 1985. From 1975-1977 the number is typically found on a decal on the back of the headstock. This should be an 8 digit number that can be dated by the 1st and 2nd digits as follows: 99 = 1975 , 00= 1976, 06 = 1977. Your SN doesn't follow this pattern so it would have to be after '69, before '75. Gibson SNs 1975 to present follow this pattern: YDDDYRRR
I dont think that.. in fact, new gibson arent that bad priced. (they arent cheap!... but they aint crap either!)
There are lots of other guitars, costing the same or even more... but they are maybe more oriented to other styles.... like if u were a guitar virtuoso (ala Vai, Satriani, etc..) you should do better with an Ibanez. and so on.
Anyway, is not the guitar that make the "artist", but it helps you to get that sound you are looking to make your own.
Well I started playing guitar at 9, and at 13 I was hoping to buy an electric guitar, so my uncle told me, If by the same time next year you can show me quite a progress, in your guitar playing, I'll give you both the Gibson, and the Fender Twin Reverb 64 model (silverface).
So.. boy did I start practicing!... maybe 4-5 hours a day (while attending school), and 8 hours on weekends and sommerdays :D
My uncle couldnt play anymore, because he got artritis, so his fingers hurted like hell. :(
si aguuss96... e la mia ragazza, che non mi lascia! :P
grazie.
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hehe, dont know if the italian where good enough, but I tried to say, that.. Yes, Im proud of "her" (the guitar" as if it was my girlfriend, that never leaves me.. :P
my guitar is all original... only had to replace the plastic knob on the treble/bass switch that were black originally, but the store didnt have at the time. And... the plastic plate on the cable plug. (but both knob and plate are "Gibson")
thats true... but hey!.. you could always get a nice pair of pickups!
(oh... I just wrote a reply on your other comment, and thoug that p-ups, where the frets! :S .. but reading this comment, I understand it was pickups you ment)
So... if you got the original vintage, you could always put them in again to get the right value... (if you havent really fucked it up, to install the newer ones) :P
I also hope I can play more with her! :D... have studies, work, and some other professional projects.. not that much money (cause my projects arent cheap)! :P
But as soon as I got some time and recording equipment (PC + soundcard), I will.
well, If you see my first comments, you will see that we have narrowed pretty much to "last 69 / early 70". (and there is lots of comments to get all the info about strange serial numbering.
but hey, If you can direct me to something concrete, that tells me that is a 73, so... please! :)
and... as you see, its hard to get completely right.. and thats why I've been unsure for 16 years!
its not for sale... but the last person who where interested told me that it would go for 66k norwegian crowns... and that in USD are about 10322. or in EURO.. 7325.
But then again, that would be the price today... and it highen for each year. So he told me that I could even get a 5-10 year later price (and that would be lot more money, cause its exponential how the price is highened), cause someone buying it, is to collect, and then the price will always go even higher
Im doing my best!... in fact, it looked just the same when I got it at 14 years old. (Im 30 now). .. any changes where that plastic knob for treble/bass.. and the black plastic plate where u insert the jack. Buyed both gibson originals.
myself was stolen a Fender Twin Reverb from 64-70 and.. and I dont have an amp since then.. about 7 years ago!... so I just can connect it to my pc with guitar rig.
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Beautiful guitar! I own one in alpine white but always loved this color equally as much. I once played one with this finish from guitar center. It was all beat up and someone has sanded down the back of the neck. Honestly, it was the nicest guitar I've ever played!
ohh... Alpine White is sexy! (in fact I would love to get one, or black, or those more nicer sunburst, or what about the new robot lespaul in "wine red" color!)
just did :) great guitar, but not my style. A friend of mine (long time ago.. 15 years?) had one and I never really liked it. (must be the V form.. isnt for me) ;)
But its a great guitar :) (btw.. nice wahwah pedal, I had the same one, got stolen) :(
As I have found myself (and with help of lots of you guys), it seems though its from late (last 2 months) of 69, or first 4 months in 1970.
(reasons of this... the serial beeing on the headstock was started last 2 months of 69, even if the story says from 70... and in 70 the gibs where delivered with cases with red interior, while mine is yellow as those before 70)
But I'll take your info into consideration, in further investigation :)
your epiphone looks exactly like mine (except the tuners, and the rest of gold.. yours still shining) oh and the pots.. like yours, mine are the oldschool ones (hat-tipe) ;)
you play nice for beeing less than 2 years playing mate :) (aswell as great songs/vids in your account)
that was the date I always got from any of my guitarrist/musician friends!.. but then searching lots of hours (days) I get its from late (last 2 months) of 69 or first 4 months of 70 :)
Anyway, if you could give me any reason, info or maybe a link, that show me its a 63, I'll be glad :)
kuonsy118: you mean you sell a new one for 2,6k and the price is rather low? :P
I mean.. this guitar is not the same as a new one for sure. I even heard the 50th anniversary, and didnt liked it in comparisson with mine. (the years on the road, makes it better)
Anyway, I see you got a Thumbs down, and I guess its for your spam... your store may be nice, but please keep it professional aswell (not spamming)
hay man i have a guitar that looks just like that but it is not a Gibson Les Paul i do not know what brand it is it has a butterfly on the neck can tell me what brand it is i looked every where but no one can tell me what brand it is can you
Hi there, yours is definitely a Matsumuko Les Paul copy from the 70s... and it doesnt need to be a bad guitar!.. just check if the pick-ups are those who came with the guitar, and if so, change them for some good ones, and you are good to rock! :) (I guess you do already!)
oh no... not in this guitar! (with black knobs, and black switch plastic), or white over red/yellow.. heh, there is something called design you know ;) (and color harmony) and that stuff ;)
but you may still like it white, thats your own decision, no doubt about it.
hehe.. in fact Im not that crazy about the looks either, I think its so heavy that it makes you start (after the years) inventing excuses so you can feel great about changing it! :P and.. I do like the Ibanez Egen1 :P
yes, it looks like exactly his!.. got a friend in norway, who knows his girlfriend, so I was thinking of asking ;)
But mine is still an earlier model... in the pots says 73, but I believe is a bit earlier, cause I just found on net a musician that has a 73 model with nr. 180xxx and mine is 127xxx so figure. (both les paul customs)
i have that same one but mines a ice tea burst or something, theres a picture of it for my profile picture, my grandfather gave the guitar, gold hardware, pearl inlays, grover tuning keys man i love that guitar even with the marshall mg 30w it plays nice, my grandfather says its a 2008 model, he got from a friend and gave me the guitar because he doesn't have time to play alot
nice!, same old? or a newer one? (older?) make a vid of it. I see you play drums, but would be great if you took a sec to make a vid (put some lights though) ;)
Just saw your gibson, and looks very like mine does.. but there are differences like the knobs (mine are older type), the swith knob (treble-bass) is black on mine (the original was), and if you see in my vid, the tuners are diferent aswell (older type than yours). But you got a nice guitar there.. same color as mine! :)
I did several years ago, and they answered with a very "custom" answer, something like: We're sorry, but sometimes its hard even for us to date exactly a custom guitar!! (I sent pictures of it aswell as the number).
les pauls are great guitars. nice clean pickup and great sound...what more could you want? thats why the guitarist in our band plays one. check it out
My Fender Twin Reverb from 64 got stolen some years ago, and I had to buy in urge cause I was active in a band, so I got into a rack system, with marshall,etc..
But now I dont have any amp (not even a shitty one), and its killing me! :(
hey, i just bought a 1969 custom and from the research i did dating that yours looks like a '70 or '71 due to the 'made in usa' stamp which was first introduced in 1970, hope this helps
pretty much you got it, the thing is that it seems that they started with "made in usa" stamped some months before 1970 (meaning, end 1969), and even if by the serial I can assume its from start of the 70's, it seems that the case that it came with (yellow interior) was discontinued the 31st desember 69, and then they started with the red interior from 1st january that's why it may be from last one of the 69.
But its not such a big deal,if its from last 2 months of 69 of first 4 months of 70.
Here's another clue: Check the potcodes! If the potentiometers in there are original they should begin with 137 (which means CTS, the brand that makes potentiometers) followed by the year, followed by the week, For example: 1377735 means the 35th week of 1977. Open the cavity on the back carefully.
Hi there... 63? you think so? where you get that info from? (would like to know).
I've tested to record something but from the pc with guitar rig 3 + the cameras mic, and had clipping problems (and sounded kind of shit). I'll keep trying to do test though, lets see if something cames up good enough.
And... if any in europe has a spare amp without use and feel like giving it away, I'll be pleased getting it! ;)
well that year isn't necessarily so sought after, but its still pretty, probably in the 3000-4000 range. somewhere in there, taken for granted that its in good condition: i.e. mint. but who knows maybe more, i'm not a collector, just an ameteur buff =]
I know gibsons are made in USA, but not all of them got it on the headstock under the serial number as mine, thats why some numbers are for those that hasnt serial and made in USA stamped on the headstock like mine and other serials are for those like mine.
google: Gibson 1970's style stamped serial
and in the first result, click on it, and go to serial numbers and factory order numbers
and search for: "1970's style stamped" (without quotes)
in addition, at the same page (at start) over serial numbers and factory order numbers, you got "gibson cases", and there a info about those.. in the picture, mine is the one with yellow interior.
Oh man... I wish!! right now it misses one string and got no money!... neither an amp! :( so I'll see when I get some euros to buy a string set, and maybe I do a recording with my cam and Native Instruments Guitar Rig 3 thru Harman Kardon Soundstick II speakers! :P
you lucky bastard! ;) hehe... anyways its fantastic to own such a guitar as mine aswell, but its kind of a pain too. Not only because of the weight, but because of the responsability that you have to take, I would have a cheaper guitar just for concerts and wouldnt care if I scratched it, or dumped into the wall or any other "usual" stuff that happens. But the guitar is lovely indeed
i dont no wether to get a epi les paul black beauty or a epi les paul standerd or the zakk wyled epi les paul can some 1 give advice i like to play all the guns and roses songs and all the stuff that slash plays can some tell what i should get thanks
Hi there, take a tour into the shop, and try them in situ aswell as the amp (together), thats the best recomendation any1 can give you. (also depends on the money you gonna spend, but no better than you to check this up in the store, and/or internet)
HEY!!! I have the same guitar! 1970 Custom, red sunburst just like yours, case has red interior, s/n 18151XX. I stumbled into it in the nineties and picked up as a back up to my 74 Tobacco burst Custom. The two are a great pair, although the 74 is looking rough these days. If your back can handle it, these things just plain rock!
your sn got 7 digits? (mine only 6)and from your number seems beein a newer one? hmm... (if serials has any number relation that is). (does it say made in usa in the stock?)
Their are lovely guitars, but as you said, if your back can handle it! (I had mine now for 15 years, was buyed new by my uncle, and he gave it to me when his back didnt handle it anymore).
yes BradleyJohnHunt, more exactly from mid 69 and first quarter of 71, thats the most close anyone (at the moment) can get to the exact date, as there is the detail with the case, beeing black with silver/aluminium borders and most important yellow interior!, from 70-71 they started to come with red interior. This detail will atleast tell us that it isnt from 72-73.
but would be great if any 100% fact knower do know when exactly they started with the red interior (in the cases). Thanks
In the 60´s the cases that came with les paul custom, was black (with metalic/alu rim) and yellow interior (as mine). and in the 70´s they changed to red interior.
So now its between mid 69 and mid 70... would be great to know exactly when they changed to red interior.
I´ve been watching a website with lots of gibson info, my conclusions: same model started production in mid 69 with 3 pieces body and 3 pieces neck too and has the volute on headstock behind the bolt.Then according to the serial number, it seems that may be from the end of 1970 or start 1971.I believe is from end 1970, since 100xxx started in mid 69 and mine is 127xxx and it went upto 199xxx at 1975.
Well that checked up, now it remains to see the Paf Humbucking PickUps. will let you know.
I bought one just like it brand new in 1973 or 1974. It had a cherry sunburst finish, small tune-o-matic, and black plastic. One of the best 70s Les Pauls I ever owned. Your guitar is probably a 1973 or 1974.
If the pots are original, you can date the guitar with more precision thanks to the serial number (what can be 137yyww - yy : year & ww : week of the year. i.e. : 1377135 for 35th week of 1971)
That's gorgeous ! Did you find the year ? I recently rewarded myself (for finishing college) with a custom black beauty. SN: CS 001187. I had to call Gibson to figure it out. apparently mines a 2010, although I have no idea how the numbers work.
TheZHBolinger 4 months ago
This is a 1971 Custom. You can tell by the format, and look of the serial number and positioning of the "Made in USA" imprint.
goredeathrot 10 months ago
search on google for 6230-gibson-logo and click on the first page there. At the second page, first picture is without the dot on the i and is from a 69 SG standard... but go to first page and look the 77 model has exactly same logo as mine.. comment nr. 26 btw.
Beni79 1 year ago
thanks for last year comments, sorry I havent replied all but will try more efficiently from now on.
it is a 69-73 les paul custom (most probably 71 though)
about the logo on headstock, it is known that several 70´s model have it without the dot on the i, aswell as minor differences on the letters... check the G and how the O and N are conected on comment nr. 26 (look at the right top corner of the messages at...
Beni79 1 year ago
mabe about 75 i had one just like it but i traded for a black 75
jeffcasey1957 1 year ago
it looks like a 1970-72 les paul standard
CJsoccer4 1 year ago
@CJsoccer4 No, the Standard never had, or has the block inlays, or the split-diamond headstock inlay..
goredeathrot 10 months ago
Nice guitar man
To be more shure you can get in touch whit the Gibson service and ask them to give you some infos.
Due to the several changes in Gibson serialization procedures, sometimes it's very difficult also for them to date precisely a guitar only from the serial, but giving them the serial plus some closeups pics of the guitar sometimes they can menage to date it anyway and tell you if looks all original.
At list that's what I did to date my 1973 Les Paul custom cherry sunburst
AndreaGanora 1 year ago
sorry bro i rechecked the website and i was wrong sorrry....forgive me ? and u might wanna polish it dude its too pretty a guitar too have smudges on it :) god i wish i could get one but me be too poor and too young to get a job lol -_- child labor laws suck!!
oAero210o 1 year ago
not the modern les paul this isnt authentic flamed maple top notice the abcensce of of verticaal streaks in the body ? this an older models but i will not say its fake becuase it is a real one. rock on mate
oAero210o 1 year ago
@oAero210o Just because it lacks flamed maple doesn't mean its old.... They've had flamed maple guitars forever.... And LP custom they make today still doesn't come with a flamed top.
ebouwman034 1 year ago
Great guitar great song.
samsquanch67 1 year ago
when has anyone seen a les paul thats over 3000$ and is missing the dot on the i im not bashing but some copies have been known to read of real ones ?
fcotiti82 1 year ago
shreadbringer your a fucking dumb shit, its a 1970s look at the wear and the style of knobs
joshjames086 1 year ago
@joshjames086 Ya, i love how people assume that the formula for S/Ns always gives you the correct info! Gibson has to have had the worst S/N system ever....
ebouwman034 1 year ago
@ebouwman034 They did, up until 1978. It pretty straightforward now. 1st and 5th digits after '78 are the year, you can even tell what day of the year it was made by the 2nd, 3rd, 4th numbers. Custom shop models still sometimes have messed up S/N's though.
goredeathrot 10 months ago
Haha mine is black and white clearly making it better..but nice guitar......MINE IS BETTER!=)
Ricardo12519 1 year ago
I own a Les Paul Custom as well just bought it but don't really have much info on it, the serial number on neck is 01433947 could someone please comment on this so I will get it to my email? Thanks a bunch, oh it's a sunburst in colour
Newfoundbiker 2 years ago
it's an '03 model. 1st digit and 5th digit (0-3) tell you the year on LP's built in the last 35 years or so. 2nd 3rd and 4th digits (143) tell what day of the year it was built.
wackmojo 2 years ago
Your guitar was made at the
Nashville Plant, TN, USA
May 23rd, 2003
Production Number: 647
shreadbringer 2 years ago
I was reading oldest messages first, and though... what? a 2003 lol.. I had mine loooong before that! :P but I did read Newfoundbiker comment, and understood.
btw Newfoundbiker... with a so new guitar as yours, you should try asking into a guitar forum (gibson forum) instead of here. But Im glad you got your answer. :)
Beni79 1 year ago
i havea satellite version of that it came iwthout a pick card but i added a white one and painted mt switxh plate white and my number one pickup white and left the other black.
harrow233 2 years ago
1974 or 1975.
donw35 2 years ago
Sweet guitar, Horrible song
Rooboner117 2 years ago
well mate, I may not like what you hear, but dont have to say it... do I?
Beni79 1 year ago
Unfortunately these are the least desirable of all LPs b/c of the cost cutting efforts made during the Norlin era. However your LP is certainly authentic and current value even for Norlin LPs are in the 3-4K range. Most ppl think that they are only suitable for firewood but I disagree. If it feels and sounds good to you that is all that should matter. If you would like more info on Norlin LPs just search the web, plenty of info available.
lkeithf 2 years ago
wow... thanks for the "Norlin" info mate.
Well, may be a Norlin one, but must be of the good ones (lucky me!) :P , Every friend musician and sound engineer that has recorded me, has always commented on how great my gibson sound in comparisson to others (and they have heard and even played lots of them).
Im happy with it. ;)
Beni79 2 years ago
Continued: The Recording featured low-impedance pickups, many switches and buttons, and a highly specialized cable for impedance-matching to the amplifier. Less noticeable changes included, but were not limited to, maple fingerboards (1976), pickup cavity shielding, and the crossover of the ABR1 Tune-o-matic bridge into the modern day Nashville Tune-o-matic bridge. During the 1970s, the Les Paul body shape was incorporated into other Gibson models, including the S-1, the Sonex, the L6-S, and
lkeithf 2 years ago
Continued: The LP body was changed from a one piece mahogany with a maple top into multiple slabs of mahogany with multiple pieced maple tops (also called a "pancake body').
In this era, as well, Gibson began experimenting with new models such as the Les Paul Recording. This model is often eschewed by guitar purists[citation needed]: considered "too full of gadgetry".[citation needed]
lkeithf 2 years ago
Taken from Wiki: Subsequent years brought new company ownership to the Gibson Guitar Company. During the "Norlin Era", Gibson Les Paul body designs were greatly altered, most notably, the change to the neck volute. Because the Les Paul had the reputation of having an easily broken neck joint, the volute strengthened the neck where it joined the headstock to avert breakage. To further increase the strength, the neck woods were changed from mahogany to a three-piece maple design.
lkeithf 2 years ago
This is what is known as a "Norlin Era" Les Paul and is evident from the 3 piece (pancake) body and neck volute. These were made from 1969 to 1985. From 1975-1977 the number is typically found on a decal on the back of the headstock. This should be an 8 digit number that can be dated by the 1st and 2nd digits as follows: 99 = 1975 , 00= 1976, 06 = 1977. Your SN doesn't follow this pattern so it would have to be after '69, before '75. Gibson SNs 1975 to present follow this pattern: YDDDYRRR
lkeithf 2 years ago
Beautiful Les Paul!!!
Vallhalla688 2 years ago
thank u mate :)
Beni79 2 years ago
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That is one ugly Les Paul.
lighteningboy 2 years ago
theres no such thing as an ugly les paul
expensivepig 2 years ago 3
i have one in the antique white!!
Old School!
HarryLeatherby 2 years ago
i think gibsons cost way to much just my opion
steamkidsdad 2 years ago
I dont think that.. in fact, new gibson arent that bad priced. (they arent cheap!... but they aint crap either!)
There are lots of other guitars, costing the same or even more... but they are maybe more oriented to other styles.... like if u were a guitar virtuoso (ala Vai, Satriani, etc..) you should do better with an Ibanez. and so on.
Anyway, is not the guitar that make the "artist", but it helps you to get that sound you are looking to make your own.
Beni79 2 years ago
Dude, you uncle is awesome for giving you this beauty when you were just 14, really nice.
underliner6 2 years ago
Well I started playing guitar at 9, and at 13 I was hoping to buy an electric guitar, so my uncle told me, If by the same time next year you can show me quite a progress, in your guitar playing, I'll give you both the Gibson, and the Fender Twin Reverb 64 model (silverface).
So.. boy did I start practicing!... maybe 4-5 hours a day (while attending school), and 8 hours on weekends and sommerdays :D
My uncle couldnt play anymore, because he got artritis, so his fingers hurted like hell. :(
Beni79 2 years ago
oh and yes... my Uncle was awesome! :)
(hehe... the first CD he gave me when I was 15 years old... was IRON MAIDEN.. and the second AC/DC) :P
Beni79 2 years ago
mamma mia...proprio orgoglioso della gibson ,eh? xD dai, bella custom
aguuss96 2 years ago
si aguuss96... e la mia ragazza, che non mi lascia! :P
grazie.
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hehe, dont know if the italian where good enough, but I tried to say, that.. Yes, Im proud of "her" (the guitar" as if it was my girlfriend, that never leaves me.. :P
Thank you.
Beni79 2 years ago
i still have the stock original vintage p-ups though
CommandoFilmz 2 years ago
my guitar is all original... only had to replace the plastic knob on the treble/bass switch that were black originally, but the store didnt have at the time. And... the plastic plate on the cable plug. (but both knob and plate are "Gibson")
Beni79 2 years ago
dude thats sik. I have the same exact 74 version. I only had 2 replace the pickups.
CommandoFilmz 2 years ago
but then its not the same value :( xD
guitardude548 2 years ago
thats true... but hey!.. you could always get a nice pair of pickups!
(oh... I just wrote a reply on your other comment, and thoug that p-ups, where the frets! :S .. but reading this comment, I understand it was pickups you ment)
So... if you got the original vintage, you could always put them in again to get the right value... (if you havent really fucked it up, to install the newer ones) :P
Beni79 2 years ago
Cool looking guitar. Play her, she deserves it!
Keijz74 2 years ago
yes she does! :D
I also hope I can play more with her! :D... have studies, work, and some other professional projects.. not that much money (cause my projects arent cheap)! :P
But as soon as I got some time and recording equipment (PC + soundcard), I will.
Beni79 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure its 73, due to the serial.
SidVicious10101 2 years ago
Hi there..
well, If you see my first comments, you will see that we have narrowed pretty much to "last 69 / early 70". (and there is lots of comments to get all the info about strange serial numbering.
but hey, If you can direct me to something concrete, that tells me that is a 73, so... please! :)
and... as you see, its hard to get completely right.. and thats why I've been unsure for 16 years!
Beni79 2 years ago
price of this guitar?
geraldhdez 2 years ago
Hi geraldhdez...
its not for sale... but the last person who where interested told me that it would go for 66k norwegian crowns... and that in USD are about 10322. or in EURO.. 7325.
But then again, that would be the price today... and it highen for each year. So he told me that I could even get a 5-10 year later price (and that would be lot more money, cause its exponential how the price is highened), cause someone buying it, is to collect, and then the price will always go even higher
Beni79 2 years ago
omg take great care of that guitar, please!
FerCcr 2 years ago
Im doing my best!... in fact, it looked just the same when I got it at 14 years old. (Im 30 now). .. any changes where that plastic knob for treble/bass.. and the black plastic plate where u insert the jack. Buyed both gibson originals.
Beni79 2 years ago
nice guitar man.. i wouldve liked to buy one of those.. but too bad i cant afford one =\
i had a gibson sg but it got stolen :( now i dont have a guitar at all except an acoustic one..
ThisStand 3 years ago
myself was stolen a Fender Twin Reverb from 64-70 and.. and I dont have an amp since then.. about 7 years ago!... so I just can connect it to my pc with guitar rig.
But would love my old tweenie
Beni79 2 years ago
I have The 1970 in the Chery Sunbust
GuitarHeroMaster1125 3 years ago
does it look just like mine?... (I'll check on your vids, to see if u got it there)
Beni79 2 years ago
what year is this and how much?
ZACKisVICIOUS 3 years ago
it seems is from late 69 or early 70.
how much what?... :P how much I want for it today?... or how much is it value?
Beni79 2 years ago
i have this at skool
buttersr16 3 years ago
I would love that school!... where is it? which is it?.. hehe
Beni79 2 years ago
phh, i think this guitar is getting the best of me....lol
GeeRat5 3 years ago
;) handkechief ready mr.
Beni79 2 years ago
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corniliousk 3 years ago
Beautiful guitar! I own one in alpine white but always loved this color equally as much. I once played one with this finish from guitar center. It was all beat up and someone has sanded down the back of the neck. Honestly, it was the nicest guitar I've ever played!
BrianWilsonJacob 3 years ago
thanks mate..
ohh... Alpine White is sexy! (in fact I would love to get one, or black, or those more nicer sunburst, or what about the new robot lespaul in "wine red" color!)
Beni79 2 years ago
look my gibson flying v
bam92uka 3 years ago
just did :) great guitar, but not my style. A friend of mine (long time ago.. 15 years?) had one and I never really liked it. (must be the V form.. isnt for me) ;)
But its a great guitar :) (btw.. nice wahwah pedal, I had the same one, got stolen) :(
Beni79 3 years ago
oh, I forgot... the video is very like mine... the same way of showing the guitar ;) (am I creating a school?) :P
Beni79 3 years ago
Your guitar was made at the
Kalamazoo or Nashville Plant , USA
approximately in: 1970, 1971 or 1972
yllsacky 3 years ago
thanks for the info.
As I have found myself (and with help of lots of you guys), it seems though its from late (last 2 months) of 69, or first 4 months in 1970.
(reasons of this... the serial beeing on the headstock was started last 2 months of 69, even if the story says from 70... and in 70 the gibs where delivered with cases with red interior, while mine is yellow as those before 70)
But I'll take your info into consideration, in further investigation :)
Beni79 3 years ago
To my mind this is the most beautiful les Paul ever !!!!!!!!! :)
ACDCKissLuki 3 years ago
Thanks! ;)
your epiphone looks exactly like mine (except the tuners, and the rest of gold.. yours still shining) oh and the pots.. like yours, mine are the oldschool ones (hat-tipe) ;)
you play nice for beeing less than 2 years playing mate :) (aswell as great songs/vids in your account)
Keep Rockin!
Beni79 3 years ago
Thanka alot !!! :D
ACDCKissLuki 3 years ago
i hate the in lays on the 1st fret
Nerdboyguy 3 years ago
Why´s that? If they are in good condition, it would be seemingless to the fret, and you wouldnt notice it. (or you mean... the looks?)
I think it would be rare/strange looking, not having the first one though
Beni79 3 years ago
Your guitar was made at the
Kalamazoo Plant, USA
approximately in: 1963
Chava41694 3 years ago
that was the date I always got from any of my guitarrist/musician friends!.. but then searching lots of hours (days) I get its from late (last 2 months) of 69 or first 4 months of 70 :)
Anyway, if you could give me any reason, info or maybe a link, that show me its a 63, I'll be glad :)
Beni79 3 years ago
COOL, Thanks for your nice work!
The guitar is rather cool, you can find it from our site, guitarvillage com cn
The price is rather low!!!
kuonsy118 3 years ago
kuonsy118: you mean you sell a new one for 2,6k and the price is rather low? :P
I mean.. this guitar is not the same as a new one for sure. I even heard the 50th anniversary, and didnt liked it in comparisson with mine. (the years on the road, makes it better)
Anyway, I see you got a Thumbs down, and I guess its for your spam... your store may be nice, but please keep it professional aswell (not spamming)
Beni79 3 years ago
Only seeing this beauty and I can feel an orgasm!
congrats!
macaius 3 years ago
hehe, as my friend Austin "Danger" Powers would say... "oh, behave"... grrr
thanks mate.
Beni79 3 years ago
hay man i have a guitar that looks just like that but it is not a Gibson Les Paul i do not know what brand it is it has a butterfly on the neck can tell me what brand it is i looked every where but no one can tell me what brand it is can you
keyton91 3 years ago
Hi there, yours is definitely a Matsumuko Les Paul copy from the 70s... and it doesnt need to be a bad guitar!.. just check if the pick-ups are those who came with the guitar, and if so, change them for some good ones, and you are good to rock! :) (I guess you do already!)
Beni79 3 years ago
Jean Claude Van DAMN !
dinmorerenwebbergril 3 years ago
hehe.. ;)
Beni79 3 years ago
whats the name of the song;o ?
gitaard 3 years ago
if you watched to the end of the video, you would realize that I wrote it.. "Best of you" of Foo Fighters.
Beni79 3 years ago
I don't like it's black pickguard.
I'd prefer a white one
Solidiquis 3 years ago
oh no... not in this guitar! (with black knobs, and black switch plastic), or white over red/yellow.. heh, there is something called design you know ;) (and color harmony) and that stuff ;)
but you may still like it white, thats your own decision, no doubt about it.
Beni79 3 years ago
It looks like an epiphone to me with a black pick guard xD
Solidiquis 3 years ago
yeah right... xD
Beni79 3 years ago
dont ever sell that guitar, shes a beauty...
vivalaking 3 years ago
she is.. and I will try not to sell it! ;) had it since I was 14 and Im 29 now, thats... heh, 15 years on my hands!
Beni79 3 years ago
beautiful guitar.
jonnywaffle6 3 years ago
thanks
Beni79 3 years ago
December 1977
bullethead2311 3 years ago
sorry, I dont think so ;)
Beni79 3 years ago
if you wanna know how old it is email gibson and give them the serial number on the head stock.
DOW700 3 years ago
I did, 5 years ago... never got an answer!
then I tried 2 years ago, and they told me that I had to ask the "Custom" guys, cause for Gibson (not custom department) would be almost impossible.
then I contacted inmediatly with Custom, but never got an answer either. (even I sent pictures of it)
Beni79 3 years ago
the pirce of one gibson les paul it's
$8.000 =D
zxzxtribe 3 years ago
It has a volute, so it would be early 70's.
Commodorian 3 years ago
how much does a gibson les paul cost do u think?(a new one)
Please Reply
Guitarwizard333 3 years ago
all i can help you with there is a gibson les paul will cost up in the 1000's
rockstar1888 3 years ago
A decent Gibson Les Paul will run you around $2000, although most will hit $3000+.
RayZR 3 years ago
its like 4000 or 3000 for git..
vampreen12356 3 years ago
well a gibson les paul custom is $3400
the studios which are cheaper start at $900
and there are many more models of les pauls
kidkage 3 years ago
thats right.. and thats still "new" prices, so I could get lots for mine, being in great used condition.
But.. not going to sell it, in the near future.
Beni79 3 years ago
SWEET!!!!!!!
Guitarwizard333 3 years ago
I have the same guitar! They Rock! (it's the EXACT SAME, gold hard ware and everything)
GibsonLesPaul74 3 years ago
and yours from 74, so its kind of start-mid 70's for sure. :)
Beni79 3 years ago
k i have that guitar but i just dont like how it looks..idk why hahaha
mybeborocks 3 years ago
hehe.. in fact Im not that crazy about the looks either, I think its so heavy that it makes you start (after the years) inventing excuses so you can feel great about changing it! :P and.. I do like the Ibanez Egen1 :P
Beni79 3 years ago
I think this guitar is the same as "euroboy" from turbonegro uses! then it would be from '79!
RankyMember 3 years ago
yes, it looks like exactly his!.. got a friend in norway, who knows his girlfriend, so I was thinking of asking ;)
But mine is still an earlier model... in the pots says 73, but I believe is a bit earlier, cause I just found on net a musician that has a 73 model with nr. 180xxx and mine is 127xxx so figure. (both les paul customs)
Beni79 3 years ago
i have that same one but mines a ice tea burst or something, theres a picture of it for my profile picture, my grandfather gave the guitar, gold hardware, pearl inlays, grover tuning keys man i love that guitar even with the marshall mg 30w it plays nice, my grandfather says its a 2008 model, he got from a friend and gave me the guitar because he doesn't have time to play alot
DakotaSkids 3 years ago
Wow... lucky! ;) hehe.
I got it from my uncle/godfather when I was 14, and Im 29 now.
Have great time with it!
Beni79 3 years ago
i got the same guitar !:)
TimMcLIrath 3 years ago
nice!, same old? or a newer one? (older?) make a vid of it. I see you play drums, but would be great if you took a sec to make a vid (put some lights though) ;)
Beni79 3 years ago
1976 !
TimMcLIrath 3 years ago
ok, well mine is a bit older, but thats not so important. You got a great guitar!
Beni79 3 years ago
thanks
DakotaSkids 3 years ago
Ya mine was 1970 something too!
GibsonLesPaul74 3 years ago
Actually I remember, It's 1974 it came out!
GibsonLesPaul74 3 years ago
Hi there GibsonLesPaul74,
Just saw your gibson, and looks very like mine does.. but there are differences like the knobs (mine are older type), the swith knob (treble-bass) is black on mine (the original was), and if you see in my vid, the tuners are diferent aswell (older type than yours). But you got a nice guitar there.. same color as mine! :)
Cheers.
Beni79 3 years ago
Always found mailing Gibson direct to have quick responses on what is what
MrMayhemskyline 3 years ago
I did several years ago, and they answered with a very "custom" answer, something like: We're sorry, but sometimes its hard even for us to date exactly a custom guitar!! (I sent pictures of it aswell as the number).
I replied but never got answered again.
Beni79 3 years ago
beautiful guitar
tb415 3 years ago
Thanks mate
Beni79 3 years ago
les pauls are great guitars. nice clean pickup and great sound...what more could you want? thats why the guitarist in our band plays one. check it out
FBItheband 3 years ago
Believe me... I could want an amp!! :P
My Fender Twin Reverb from 64 got stolen some years ago, and I had to buy in urge cause I was active in a band, so I got into a rack system, with marshall,etc..
But now I dont have any amp (not even a shitty one), and its killing me! :(
Beni79 3 years ago
hey, i just bought a 1969 custom and from the research i did dating that yours looks like a '70 or '71 due to the 'made in usa' stamp which was first introduced in 1970, hope this helps
flipfloptim 3 years ago
pretty much you got it, the thing is that it seems that they started with "made in usa" stamped some months before 1970 (meaning, end 1969), and even if by the serial I can assume its from start of the 70's, it seems that the case that it came with (yellow interior) was discontinued the 31st desember 69, and then they started with the red interior from 1st january that's why it may be from last one of the 69.
But its not such a big deal,if its from last 2 months of 69 of first 4 months of 70.
Beni79 3 years ago
Here's another clue: Check the potcodes! If the potentiometers in there are original they should begin with 137 (which means CTS, the brand that makes potentiometers) followed by the year, followed by the week, For example: 1377735 means the 35th week of 1977. Open the cavity on the back carefully.
KitchenMarshall 3 years ago
Your Guitar is a 63' actually =]
very beautiful. its a shame you can't play it. I would die for the chance to.
firstgearlead 3 years ago
Hi there... 63? you think so? where you get that info from? (would like to know).
I've tested to record something but from the pc with guitar rig 3 + the cameras mic, and had clipping problems (and sounded kind of shit). I'll keep trying to do test though, lets see if something cames up good enough.
And... if any in europe has a spare amp without use and feel like giving it away, I'll be pleased getting it! ;)
Beni79 3 years ago
if you look up serial number age tables for gibsons it'll tell you the range of serial numbers made in any given year. =]
firstgearlead 3 years ago
I did that the first time and yes it gave me 63-64, but then again, that list werent the "made in USA" ones...
well, lets still search about it, and post it please! ;)
What would you guys pay for it, if it was for sale?
Beni79 3 years ago
All gibsons are made in USA hahah. but that's ok.
well that year isn't necessarily so sought after, but its still pretty, probably in the 3000-4000 range. somewhere in there, taken for granted that its in good condition: i.e. mint. but who knows maybe more, i'm not a collector, just an ameteur buff =]
nice axe, though, man.
firstgearlead 3 years ago
thanks for your reply!
I know gibsons are made in USA, but not all of them got it on the headstock under the serial number as mine, thats why some numbers are for those that hasnt serial and made in USA stamped on the headstock like mine and other serials are for those like mine.
google: Gibson 1970's style stamped serial
and in the first result, click on it, and go to serial numbers and factory order numbers
and search for: "1970's style stamped" (without quotes)
Beni79 3 years ago
in addition, at the same page (at start) over serial numbers and factory order numbers, you got "gibson cases", and there a info about those.. in the picture, mine is the one with yellow interior.
Beni79 3 years ago
So...do you play it?:P
chugfat 3 years ago
Oh man... I wish!! right now it misses one string and got no money!... neither an amp! :( so I'll see when I get some euros to buy a string set, and maybe I do a recording with my cam and Native Instruments Guitar Rig 3 thru Harman Kardon Soundstick II speakers! :P
Beni79 3 years ago
im getting a standard 60s neck les paul fro my bday
CANT WAIT
1luvcrick3t 3 years ago
you lucky bastard! ;) hehe... anyways its fantastic to own such a guitar as mine aswell, but its kind of a pain too. Not only because of the weight, but because of the responsability that you have to take, I would have a cheaper guitar just for concerts and wouldnt care if I scratched it, or dumped into the wall or any other "usual" stuff that happens. But the guitar is lovely indeed
Beni79 3 years ago
i dont no wether to get a epi les paul black beauty or a epi les paul standerd or the zakk wyled epi les paul can some 1 give advice i like to play all the guns and roses songs and all the stuff that slash plays can some tell what i should get thanks
RagingRino14 3 years ago
get the les paul custon cherry top it sounds beautiful
lucifersbitch666 3 years ago
Hi there, take a tour into the shop, and try them in situ aswell as the amp (together), thats the best recomendation any1 can give you. (also depends on the money you gonna spend, but no better than you to check this up in the store, and/or internet)
Beni79 3 years ago
"Your guitar was made at the
Kalamazoo or Nashville Plant , USA
approximately in: 1970, 1971 or 1972"
It was from the Gibson Serial Number Decoder.
DaanJM 3 years ago
Thanks for the info, but I still would be happy to know exactly the birth date and why not the place aswell :)
Beni79 3 years ago
Have you already contacted the people from Gibson? Maybe they'll know. Just go to the site and click "support".
DaanJM 3 years ago
FACHA DE MIERDA
nest159 4 years ago
Dime... para tí que es un facha? (si me contestas te prometo una contestación que te va a gustar. (y eso teniendo cuidado, que youtube censura)
Beni79 3 years ago
HEY!!! I have the same guitar! 1970 Custom, red sunburst just like yours, case has red interior, s/n 18151XX. I stumbled into it in the nineties and picked up as a back up to my 74 Tobacco burst Custom. The two are a great pair, although the 74 is looking rough these days. If your back can handle it, these things just plain rock!
msockwell 4 years ago
your sn got 7 digits? (mine only 6)and from your number seems beein a newer one? hmm... (if serials has any number relation that is). (does it say made in usa in the stock?)
Their are lovely guitars, but as you said, if your back can handle it! (I had mine now for 15 years, was buyed new by my uncle, and he gave it to me when his back didnt handle it anymore).
Beni79 4 years ago
fuck the foo fighters...
unclespinnydurbish 4 years ago
fuck u2
Beni79 4 years ago
between 1970-73
BradleyJohnHunt 4 years ago
yes BradleyJohnHunt, more exactly from mid 69 and first quarter of 71, thats the most close anyone (at the moment) can get to the exact date, as there is the detail with the case, beeing black with silver/aluminium borders and most important yellow interior!, from 70-71 they started to come with red interior. This detail will atleast tell us that it isnt from 72-73.
but would be great if any 100% fact knower do know when exactly they started with the red interior (in the cases). Thanks
Beni79 4 years ago
you gotta clip those strings dude
Fu345 4 years ago
my bad... :P (I usually do it when Im going to play at gigs, but for home playing I sometimes forget) <-- aint that stupid?
Beni79 4 years ago
cool.....
wait.
why didnt you play it?
Nintendowii6000 4 years ago
hehe, sorry for that!... but stay tuned, as Im getting my pc overhauled and will be getting some stuff recorded (audio & video).
By the way, I dont have an amp right now, and Im going to use Guitar Rig 3 on pc.
;)
Beni79 4 years ago
Oh.. forgot.
In the 60´s the cases that came with les paul custom, was black (with metalic/alu rim) and yellow interior (as mine). and in the 70´s they changed to red interior.
So now its between mid 69 and mid 70... would be great to know exactly when they changed to red interior.
Thanks for your comments and help
Beni79 4 years ago
I´ve been watching a website with lots of gibson info, my conclusions: same model started production in mid 69 with 3 pieces body and 3 pieces neck too and has the volute on headstock behind the bolt.Then according to the serial number, it seems that may be from the end of 1970 or start 1971.I believe is from end 1970, since 100xxx started in mid 69 and mine is 127xxx and it went upto 199xxx at 1975.
Well that checked up, now it remains to see the Paf Humbucking PickUps. will let you know.
Beni79 4 years ago
I bought one just like it brand new in 1973 or 1974. It had a cherry sunburst finish, small tune-o-matic, and black plastic. One of the best 70s Les Pauls I ever owned. Your guitar is probably a 1973 or 1974.
guitarcynic 4 years ago
Ahhh, she's beautiful!
Love the condition and the finish. Take it Gibson PAFs do it for you then?
IRonMAIden91228 4 years ago
Hi !
By the serial, it can be dated from 1970 to 1975.
If the pots are original, you can date the guitar with more precision thanks to the serial number (what can be 137yyww - yy : year & ww : week of the year. i.e. : 1377135 for 35th week of 1971)
bongo666 4 years ago