@trollutillubleed "That Scottish sounding dude is right. Who are you to tell me how to believe in God?"
Who is the government to tell me that now I have to pay for my eye exam so some someone can have their sex change operation covered by healthcare dollars which our taxes go towards?
@BleedingBullets4U Funny, because that little throng of 5 evangelists was mutli racial and diverse, unlike the religion hating neighbor's who spoke out for the ENTIRE neighborhood.
Funnier still, if these people were saying "We don't like your KIND on our street" to black guys playing music loudly, we'd see it for the hate crime that it is.
Jehovah Witnesses get paid by the hour lol no wonder why they tryed staying for that long be honest if someone told you to leave ill leave with in a heart beat thats so sad to see people that stupid they the (Jehovah Witnesses) aren't doing their jobs right every Sunday whosoever is now at church and is working should be killed asap hahahahahahaha
They looked like Jehovah Witnesses. Oh how I wish someone would kick them out of MY neighborhood. I put my dog out when I see them coming, so they come to the back door. They stand out there knocking FOREVER.
@tovahification LOL typical leftie retard. They have been doing it for SEVENTY years. 1 time a year for SEVENTY years. The gay man who made this video failed to include ALOT of information to create hatred against religion in support of his own personal bias and leftards are too blind to see that. Eg we don't like your kind on our street doesn't sound like what whites were saying to blacks 50 years ago? OHHH but discrimination and persecution based on Christianity is FINE.
@EquitesVeritatis First off they have not been harassing the same gay couple for seventy years. Maybe for seventy years the have been having some type of anti homosexual meeting once a year. But yes it does matter that it is not their neighborhood and they do not live there. It is one thing to have their gathering in a public place. But to bring the harassment to a persons home? That is way over the line. And disrespectful of the people who live there.
@BleedingBullets4U They weren't at a person's home, they were on the street. Honestly you liberal downtowners make me want to puke with your double standards. In what fucking context is it ever ok to say, "WE DON'T LIKE YOUR KIND ON OUR STREET?"
Secondly, they have been preaching the bible out on DIFFERENT streets everywhere for 70 years, not in ONE specific location. The GAY creator of this video purposely lied to incite hatred against the preachers.
@EquitesVeritatis Yes it is perfectly legal to preach on the street. But why that street in front of that house? Because the people living there are gay and they don't like gays. Dislike who ever you want but at least let them have some peace at home. It is very disrespectful to harass people at home they know they are not going to convert anyone doing this. This harassing people at their home this can be a two way street. When people stop being nice and only worry about what is legal it's ugly.
@trollutillubleed ". But why that street in front of that house? Because the people living there are gay and they don't like gays."
Are you retarded? Just jumping to your typical stereotypes right? To the point where you can't actually think logically. Do you think the church has a registry of where gay people live? Or do you think it had to do with a FIRE HYDRANT being there thus freeing up a space on the street to preach.
@trollutillubleed Do you also condone the use of the "We don't like your KIND on our street?" said by one of those neighbours? Yes if it were black people the discrimination would have been much easier to see.
read the whole story, which the homosexual who made this video did NOT inform of, with the express aim to incite hatred. YES!! guess what!! not just white people are racists! And gays can be just as bigoted and discriminating as every other human being!
These Christian terrorists have no restraint. Jesus was an angry whipper (John 2:15), lost his cool, but they STILL make Jesus their role-model despite the Bible saying what it says. That is the central message of the Bible, Old or New: If you define any group as evil you CAN whip them or genocide them or do anything you want with them. But people are free now; they don't rule, the Constitution does, and rights flow to INDIVIDUALS not religious leaders, so kick them out.
Why can't these god-lovers do something God would love? Like helping others, donating time or money to those less fortunate... Don't you think THAT is what your god would want rather than annoying and harassing people?
This video put a smile on my face. I want to thank everyone especially the person who brought out the video camera for not only standing up for their neighbors, but for protecting their neighborhood as a whole. I wish there were more people like you.
Obvious, for that gay man to say that ALL Christians shouldn't be allowed to adopt children is DISCRIMINATING. Since Christians tend to be very liberal and are very polarized in their beliefs simply on the fact that there are many many types of Christians. But no one calls it discrimination because a whining minority isn't involved. We've become so wrapped up in protecting the minority we keep screw over the majority eg, No eye exam coverage to pay for sex changes instead thanks to Smitherman
@UlfeoinnIII BULLSHIT ALL christians ARE SMALL MINDED MORONIC LUNATICS THAT BELIEVE A BOOK OF FAIRTALE STORIES IS REAL. THEY ARE NOTHING MORE HATEFUL JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE DOING "gods WORK" THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE KKK OR THE NAZIS I LAUGH MY ASS OFF WHEN HEAR ABOUT A CHURCH BURNING TO THE GROUND OR A BUNCH OF THEM DYING.
@wiccanmoonman, Says 'WICCAN'moonman. Ugh, I don't know why everyone keeps acting like Religion and Atheism are different things. They totally aren't they work the same ways. If you don't believe it then people hate you and discriminate against you. So here is my note to everyone, I get to believe how I want to believe, not all the caps and bad grammar in the world is going to change that. Acting like you know more than anyone else is only going to get you laughed at, KTHXBAI.
By all means I am NOT against homosexuality, but I do believe that it IS a mental disease (and anyone with half a brain, knowledge in science, awareness of things like BPA etc etc would know these things). (cont)
But what I cannot stand, is reverse discrimination. When the victim becomes the violator. A perfect example of this was a gay man in the UK lobby responsible for adoption of children saying ALL Christians should not be allowed to adopt because of their stand on homosexuality.
To continue this point even more for all the secularists and athiests that have brought our society on a morale decline. Whist you say religion forces beliefs on us, who the hell is it for THEM to decide teaching our children about homosexuality in grade 1? Or that homosexuality is normal, or acceptable? (cont)
A perfect example of the reverse discrimination taking place in this video because NO ONE NOTICED the fact that one of them said, WE DON'T LIKE YOUR KIND ON OUR STREET! But you self defeatist white people would notice if these people were saying this to BLACK PEOPLE.
No one also notices that they only spend 8 seconds out of 90 seconds explaining that these people were being loud, while the rest is insulting the religion etc.
This video is total farce and purposely rigged by the man who made it. Thse people show up once a year, and have been doing it for SEVENTY years. The gay man says 7 years to make it sound like its always these people CONSTANTLY preaching on the street. And since you read 7 years, you HEAR 7 years due to the man's accent.
Ok i believe in god, but i believe that everyone is equal. i would never discriminate against anyone for there beliefs and lifestyle and like hell i would ever go to someone's home and say such rubbish
I used to share my drive with a church and they were nothing but a pain in the ass, I say live and let live not impose your beliefs onto others let them come to you if their interested in your religion.
I absolutely cannot stand it when people self-righteously force their beliefs on others and hide behind freedom of speech. I would rather have an ex-con knock on my door saying that he moved in next door and is hoping for a fresh start than have such mentally insane lunatics regularly trying to make me believe their fairy tales. If I ever catch such people speaking to my children, I swear I will beat the living shit out of them. Religion is fine, but keep it to yourselves.
@DrP1po certainly its far better for your children to be taught about homosexuality at grade 1. I will say this, 2000 years in Europe the now a day Zionists have been after the death of Christianity (turning Christians against Muslims and vice versa, and funding both sides of the war for profit).
If you notice where there is a Zionist presence in a country (tied to government), you notice secularism taking a hold, and secularism leads to COMMUNISM (corporate), remember Russia retards.
I am sorry, but the only haters I see in this video are the "Neighbors". The "Religious" people have every right to say whatever the hell they want in that neighborhood(Might be 'volume' laws, but other than that, they are protected under Freedom of Speech.) I might not agree with the Jehova's Witnesses'(?)preaching methods in this case, but I do uphold their rights, especially in the face of bigotry, and persecution.
@ExpendableGuy This is not a freedom of spech issue here, this is a disturbance of the peace. If I lived in that neighborhood I would have called the police and filed protective orders against each of those pease killing religious zealots. Then, let them come back again later, becaue then the police can arrest them for violating the protective order. Love your fake god all you want, but do it on your own goddamn property.
@canisdormit It is a Freedom of Speech issue, as it involves these people’s right to speak their mind freely. If they are disturbing the peace, then, as you said, the neighbors can file a complaint, but it still involves the people's freedom of speech. Who said anything about me loving "god"? You are jumping to conclusions; I am certainly not a Jehovah’s Witness, and anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that they cannot conclusively prove God does, or does not exist.
@canisdormit (Cont.) It seems to me that you hate Theists so much, for one reason or another, that you turned that hate on me, simply because of defended their rights. Am I off on this observation?
Also, why would people who follow Theistic ideologies practice in private? Doesn't that defeat the whole idea of having the truth? It wouldn't follow logically for them to do that.
@ExpendableGuy Noone has the right to violate somone else's rights. In this respect I believe it is you who are mistaken. I could care less about these people's (or your) beliefs. The issue here is that they are themselves violating the property and liberty rights of the homeowners of this private neighborhood. If they wish to protest in public it must be on public grounds, not private property. I never said the crazy theists had to practice in private, don't put words in my mouth.
@canisdormit 1) Why are you assuming that I hold the same ideological beliefs as the religious people, even after I said I don't? 2) So we agree about freedom of speech? Sure their methods weren't polite, but as far as I can tell from the video, they are on a public street; I can’t say for sure. It would be somewhat far fetched to call this escapade a “violation” of the neighbor’s rights. Sorry for jumping to a conclusion, it seemed that is what you meant by "practice on your own GD property."
@monica24b Honestly I dont know the whole story ,but it seems the gay couple just didnt want to make a big deal out of it. I know I would not want a bunch of crazy bible thumpers in my neighborhood where my kids play.
What these Baptists did was obviously wrong and irritating. But I wonder if these were emissaries from a different religion (I dare not speak its name) would they have been told where to go so bluntly as well, or would the response from the neighbours have been more diplomatic? I pose the question because I see different standards being used nowadays in approaching different religions. (I happen to agree with Hitchens, who is an equal-opportunity blasphemer.)
What a bunch of jackasses! Stay indoors or go to the house of a fellow cult-member... Oh, I mean parishioner and leave people alone to live their lives as they see fit. Christians are never happy to just suffer through a life of self-imposed depravation of the beautiful and joyous experiences and wonders around them. They are bent on stopping as many people as possible from enjoying life as well. Jealousy is a terrible thing. Group mentality and fascism: Yay christianity!
there's been more than one religious group that has knocked on my door, or walked through my neighborhood passing out tracts, they have the RIGHT to do that here in the United States of America, if I don't agree with their VERSION of Christianity (or whatever their religious choice is) , all I have to do is politely say so, "no, thank you, I believe ---", LIKE A CIVIL HUMAN BEING, it's not necessary for ME to become belligerent with them
This type of so called preaching is not bringing anyone to Christ, but this type of docterine does cause the people to run away, how counter productive for real christians.
Well I was not forced to be religious my family just kind've indoctrinated me as I grew up, but I live in toronto a city known for letting everyone have a piece of pride whether it be about your cultural beliefs or your sexual beliefs I say if you can't handle diversity you need leave. We respect everyone that way karma whether it exists or not doesn't nail us one day for being incredibly insensitive which is something youtube has allowed someone like Ulfeoinlll who loves doing it to do.
Is that like mathist or a gravityist? Because I just call those people educated. I guess in the little populist bubble of magical thinking education is something to stand up against.
@ephekt420 oh come now, as if you never heard of the Creationist vs Evolutionist.
I can argue for hours on that but in the end, Evolutionists is every bit a religion/ideology as Creationists. Both put faith in things that are not completely proven.
Holly shitt there is allot of them. Saturday morning i had some freaks come to my house and as soon as they started preaching i slammed my door on them! hahah
I described this situation to a POLICE OFFICER, here in Toronto. I asked if one COULD actually file a complaint and/or charge people for open air preaching. The police officer said no, only that if one stretches the circumstances to hate speech, but NOT disturbance of the peace before the applicable time of 11pm. These folks had ZERO grounds for doing what they did in this video, which is why the creator of this video failed to include what was done by the police after the fact.
LOL love the azn guy who says nothing the entire time and when their leaving yells out, YAH! get the hell out my neighborhood, like hes part of the angry mob now lolol
@kixxx96 It's not a pulic area it's in front of someones house. I would have had them arrested for trespassing. Then file for restraining order against the entire "church" so they could never come anywhere near the neighborhood again ever.
@wiccanmoonman it IS a public area. Its ON public property. Read my last post, I asked an actual police officer. Its just like you can't call the police if someone is blasting music loudly from their own house during the DAY before 11pm.
And sorry, a "Neighbourhood" doesn't consist of just 5 people.
I am all about geting the word of god out to ppl but not in a pushy manner alot of christians can get real busy in preaching and forget that there pushing the limit on some ppls toes... The Right they they should have Done is down the street or someplace in a convention center and just have little signs posted places, offer people something to eat (Free) but stay for a little bit and listen and go when u want . sorry for spelling lol people will come!! maybe not all .
I didnt see them doing much hating? Id like to more of the back story on this. Ah well i wouldnt care who it is id want anyone who came into my neighborhood that was yelling anything to shut the hell up, period
@TheLinkMedic Those preachers hadn't been on that street for THREE years. The actual proper title for this video should have been "Religious haters kick out preachers."
Considering that 6 seconds of dialogue from these Neighbours was spent adressing the noise, while the rest was HATE against religion. Notice the "We don't like your type of people on our street"
Imagine that being said towards 2 gay men kissing on the street? IT wouldn't be so right then would it?
As a christian I'd just like to say these folks (not the neihbours) are a bunch of assholes, who are quite possibly breaking the law, so yeah Fuck them and the pretencious horse they rode in on.
@gaddez How do you know they were preaching out of Leviticus. Were you there? And you say you are a Christian and then you use foul language like that.
I don't need to have been there to know that they're misquoting a line from leviticus, since the house on that street they happened to be parked out front of happens to have a pair of homosexuals living in it and that's the only part of the bible that really pretains to that.
And the reason why this kind of crap pisses me off is that fundamentalists have been misquoting the bible for years to push a mandate on the people of the US, while so many of them can't uphold the bibles rules.
@gaddez They were preaching the Gospel. The Gospel means "Good News". They were telling people how to be certain that their sins can be forgiven and that they can have a relatioship with God through his Son Jesus Christ so that they can inherit eternal life. (John 3:16) Where is the hatred in that message?
When you are preaching directly at one house for 7 years that's basicly telling people that you despise there way of living, and equates to real life trolling.
@gaddez I'd call it harassment and causing a public nuisance. In harassment, as in stalking, actions which are not in themselves illegal (such as street preaching) can be considered illegal if they show a continuing pattern. Following someone around for a day is legal, following that person for weeks on end is illegal. Similarly, street preaching is legal, but preaching hate outside one house for years is definitely wrong.
(Caveat: I am not familiar with US law on these issues.)
@qwertyTRiG yep, another idiot who just fell for Geoffrey Skelding's description and didn't bother reading the full story. Ah society is so full of people like you sadly.
Or wait, judging by the beautiful BOY videos you have on your channel, its pretty obvious why you take this stance of ignorance against what went on. So predictable really.
You know the gay couple that was supposedly targeted came right out and told the media that they were NOT being targeted. Read the story.
@PucciPet Forgiven? By whom? What is to forgive? This is despicable behaviour. Religious people should practice their seances in their little churches and stay out of the face of real people. There is no god, you fool.
What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling. You can believe in whatever fantasy you wish, but I should have the right to avoid your proselytizing in my own home.
@ephekt420 You're nothing but a sheeple falling for a GAY man's hate propaganda. They were NOT being targeted, the homosexual couple came right out and said that the next day. But the fag that made this video doesn't write that in his description, with obvious reason.
Noise levels before 11pm are not enough on a legal basis, a cop will laugh at you if you call them before that time for any related disturbance, like music being played loudly.
So perhaps I'm wrong. Your inability to say as much without implying that I'm stupid, in addition to your bigotry, does not paint a very good picture of yourself. If this is what "loving" religion imparts, then I'm happy to be as far away from it as possible.
@ephekt420 Hang on a second, do you think I am a narrow minded individual sheltered in my own biased viewpoints such as yourself? How do you know I am religious?
Unlike you I don't have a left wing or right wing mentality. I see the truth, even at the expense of PC.
My implication of your stupidity is that you obviously watch something, give it 2 seconds of limited thought, and make a judgment that is supportive of your personal bias against religion, which in turn makes you a bigot.
@qwertyTRiG Ah yeah, what is it exactly that I said that was homophobic?
I'm fine with gay people, but I am not fine with someone who incites hatred against a group he automatically assumes is inciting hatred against him and his kind (Geoffrey Skelding, read his words in the story.)
I think you should just stick to watching your beautiful BOY videos. And if thats you riding the bike on your video, wtf are you doing watching beautiful BOY vids at your age??
@ephekt420 "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message."
You made this comment without doing any research on the story. I informed you that, these preachers had not been on that street in THREE years. The GAY (his sexual orientation had obvious implications to the actions he took) man who made this video failed to inform everyone of this in his description, with OBVIOUS reason. This is a hate video.
@ephekt420 And I am going to tell you something else, I used to have a neutral attitude towards gays. Until this video. I have been ignorant of the reverse racism and discrimination that goes on in society. Because one often judges those who are victimized with contempt. To the point that when these groups turn around and commit crimes of hatred and discrimination themselves, it is ignored. (Look at Israel for example).
Yeah, I feel real bad about that poor oppressed 90%+ minority, and all the cultural concessions that come with that. Next you'll be rambling about the war on Christmas.
Look, it's inconsiderate to stand outside of homes preaching when the homeowners don't want you there. Saying you're doing it because god is awesome doesn't excuse that. The notion that homeowners shouldn't say something if it bothers them, simple because they are preaching, is frankly alarming.
@ephekt420 So the above warrants the reaction of yelling and criticizing these preachers with "We don't like your TYPE of people on our streets" after they hadn't been there for THREE years?
The point is LAWS exist for a reason. I put up with LOUD music from neighbours, clubs (cultural centres) and PARKS (cultural festivals) that are in my area. Its called tolerance. If you want complete silence, leave the city.
Lol at your vague dismissal. It speaks volumes. I submit that you see hate because you set out to find it. I support religious freedom in the context of separation 100%. I also think it should be a personal issue that is ACTUALLY kept personal, rather than trotted out in the public sphere or used to browbeat unbelievers/others religions.
@ephekt420 Do you know what the word arrogance means? It doesn't matter what YOU as an individual supports or believes in. If society functioned in this manner, NO ONE would get along.
That is why there are LAWS. What the preachers did was NOT against the laws. Like I said, I put up with MUCH louder disturbances in my neighbourhood of which stem from CULTURAL celebrations.
Open air preaching is NOT illegal in Toronto and nowhere near as loud, which leaves the OBVIOUS conclusion.
You made the legal argument. I did not. I'm speaking simply from a perspective of civility and respect. It speaks volumes that you don't even attempt to rebut these, but instead continue with the legal strawman. You're essentially admitting that these people disregard the wishes of those they're preaching to. Thank you for supporting my argument, whether you realized it or not.
@ephekt420 Really? So should I gather up 5 neighbours and go storm the park 2 blocks from my house when an Italian or Portuguese festival is going on because they are forcing their music on me?
@ephekt420 Fact is these folks live downtown, where they have MUCH louder distractions then what I get in my neighbourhood. This was nothing but mob mentality against the religion, period. They spent 6 seconds adressing these people as being too loud, and that is the ONLY complaint they could have had that was LEGIT. But there are MUCH louder distractions near the downtown core, PERIOD.
Secondly, we know what kind of people used the words "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street."
@ephekt420 Really? How have I side stepped it? According to the mob mentality in this video, neighbours can unite and kick out any type of behaviour or people they don't like from their neighbourhood.
Like kicking out a group of black people playing hip hop too loudly (and saying we don't like your TYPE of people on our street)
Or 2 gay guys kissing in front of our children. Or a muslim prayingin a neighbourhood parkette, need I go on?
@UlfeoinnIII Regardless of the noise level of the area, if the homeowners did not wish to be preached at while in their homes, their wishes should be respected. Perhaps they handled it poorly or were wrong in their assumptions of homophobia, but civility and respect dictate that "loving, caring, good people" respect those wishes. Often religion gets a concession here since it is assumed to be virtous by merit and who wouldn't want to listen to blabber about god, right?
@ephekt420 Plain and simple, the LAW is not made up of PERSONAL opinions. And if the above video was the EXACT same circumstances, with the EXACT same YELLING and words being repeated against any other GROUP, it would have been a hate crime.
Again, telling black people playing hip hop loudly "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street".
Is this simple enough for you? You can't make excuses for it to be OK just because the TYPICAL opposing groups roles have been reversed.
Again, I'm not speaking of legal restrictions. What's so hard to understand about that? I guess I should take from this that Christians aren't terribly concerned with being civil or respecting the wishes of nonbeliever so long as it isn't against the law. Awesome. Not worth it to continue.
I've given you the benefit of the doubt on every purported "fact" you've put forth. I don't even care if they're actually true, because it doesn't impact my argument one bit! Could you possibly, I don't know, read, comprehend and address what I've actually said instead of all this empty hyperbole?
LAW is important because as the above shows, its dangerous to leave things to one's interpretations of whats civil.
If neighbours thought 2 gay guys kissing in front of their kids playing on the lawn wasn't civil, does it mean they can kick them out of the neighbourhood?
Gay pride parade for example, displays levels of nudity (even complete) which would be ILLEGAL in any other circumstances.
Are you slow? I don't care about the law - I'm talking about basic respect. A concept you seem dead set to defend against. That says more than I ever could.
@ephekt420 I am very aware about your adressing respect, its you that fails to grasp I have been addressing this SEVERAL times, very PLAINLY in fact. Then again your power of observation is about as thorough as Israel investigating its attack on the USS Liberty.
Respect would have been "You guys are making too much noise, can you please leave?"
Not 6 seconds of YELLING about noise levels and 84 seconds of hateful words like "We don't like your type of people on our street."
@ephekt420 this is a quote that perfectly describes you (and the multitudes that have your like mindedness).
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principal is contempt prior to investigation."
Contempt in this case because you automatically assume the religious stance against homosexuals. It thus blinds you against the truth of what went on in this video.
@ephekt420 So yeah my lesson from you is if I don't like a cultural festival making loud noise near my house, forcing their music on me, I can get neighbours together to kick them out. Because in today's society, we bend over backwards to be tolerant of the few, when the few cannot be tolerant of the many?
I'd repeat my point but you'd just ignore it so you can substitute your strawman version. So what's the point? The homeowners don't have a legal right to make anyone leave. I never said this, so clearly you are being disingenuous. But civil, respectful people would not continue to preach at people who don't wish to be preached at.
@ephekt420 And that is what I have been arguing as well, they DON'T have the legal right to make anyone leave, but they made them leave anyway.
The man who made this video is GAY, and misinforms the viewers by failing to include the fact these preachers had not been on their street for THREE years. But when one is misled by his description and listening to the reaction of the neighbors, one thinks they were there everyday!
@ephekt420 My case is further proven by your comment you made 1 week ago.
You wrote "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling."
You obviously fell for Geoffrey Skelding's ploy. Sorry its not trolling if they hadn't been there for THREE YEARS.
Its seriously scary that society consists of so many intellectually incompetent fools that can be led by the hatred of a man so easily.
Just to point out how dishonest UlfeoinnIII's arguments are... notice how he is now harping on a statement I've since admitted could've been made in fault. I openly admitted that I may have been wrong, and have given him the benefit of the doubt on all purported facts he's put forth. Does this matter? NO! He needs to attack my person by calling me a bigot since he can't address my arguments.
@ephekt420 still reaching? You openly admitted you may have been wrong but still pressed the issue? Its the same as the gay man who made this video left a link to the true story knowing full well that the majority of viewers would be too lazy to click on it (I bet you didn't)
What were your responses outside of calling me dishonest? You spoke of civility but fail to see the only ppl behaving uncivilized. Toss in some torches and pitchforks, it would complete the mob mentality they displayed.
@ephekt420 I knew your view towards the above display was biased, I just assumed it was because you were gay. But let me guess, you're one of those evolutionist nut jobs?
Tell me anything in the evolution theory that is not 100% infallible?
Yet you have a video favorited calling the religious "Creationists" morons. Like I said, I read your bias towards the above circumstances, it made me assume you were gay but either way I was right in the end :P
Now he shifts the goal posts to an unrelated topic in attempt to discredit my person. A red herring and ad hominem all rolled up in one. Fallacies ahoy! And yet he has attacked my intellect on numerous occasions. THIS is the level of discourse we can expect from collectivist religionist.
@ephekt420 Nope, I called you right out. But your intellectual incompetance and your anti religion bias.
Again you wrote "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling."
Your lazy ass didn't bother doing any research on the story before voicing your opinion. You reacted exactly as gskelding wanted you to react. This makes you a pleb, a sheeple of which there are plenty of in our society.
@ephekt420 I bet you believe in Sept 11 and the war on terrorism, and Israel's claim to Palestine, and everything else you see on TV like the good sheep you are.
The Zionists that rule your country and have it by the balls both in congress and financially love people like you who don't ask questions, and just believe whatever is shown on the television :)
See the thing that separates me from you is I ask questions, I do research BEFORE forming an opinion, ESPECIALLY before stating one.
Still making personal attacks I see. I don't even have to say anything to make you look bad - you do it on your own.
FYI, I'm against our support of Israel and Iraq. You'd know this if you did as you say, and asked before deciding for me. LOL. It's cool though, everyone has their lapses. REASONABLE people understand this.
@ephekt420 I am shocked? You made an opinion on the above video without doing any research, and yet you oppose support on Israel and Iraq? You are a man of contradictions.
Please, inform me as to why you don't support Israel and Iraq, you have me curious now
@ephekt420 oh wait, ops should I have seen the obvious? You don't support Israel because of your stance against religion? Therefore not believing in the bible equates to you believing that these self proclaimed people of God have no right to Israel?
It's kind of amusing watching these thought processes unfold. :p
First, I don't have a stance against religion. I don't believe personally, but I don't care if you do - so long as your beliefs remain personal. Religious statism and collectivist moralism are harmful to everyone, minority religious groups included.
Israel's status as a sovereign state is not in question imo. I don't support some of their actions against Palestinians or our economic support.
@ephekt420 So... without religion, and abiding only by laws since laws apparently teach us morals as well. I could sleep with your wife, and that would be ok?
Frankly
Religion without intelligence is dangerous
but intelligence without religion is even more dangerous
Just look at all the wonderful weapons we've invented to inflict suffering upon our fellow man. Whilst the common folk may be religious, governments are not. They consist of men with 100 dollar haircuts who do not fear God.
@ephekt420 I am not an abuser, I just hate stupid people that voice their opinions no matter how uninformed they are. Its a dangerous thing because the majority of the plebs of which society consists of, will have their own opinion polluted by these very same morons. It is often the viaduct through which things like hate against a targeted group spread.
And had these folks been gay, or of any other color etc NO behaviour warrants the mob mentality taking the law into their own hands.
@ephekt420 see the other guy, @wiccanmoonman, its was obvious to understand why his grasp of what happened in the above was very polluted by self bias. He's a man turning into a woman, and thus auto assumes religion is against it. Of course he would argue in favor of gskelding.
You see if society had more people such as myself, we wouldn't sheepishly falling for all the "Hitler" propaganda going on around us. USA again is another perfect example of this.
@gaddez and what makes you say the preachers were being assholes? Did you hear any hate speech?
In fact, who did all the YELLING in the video? Which parties had hatred in their voices?
Just because we automatically percieve the religious to be against homosexuals, doesn't make it ok for a homosexual to commit a crime of hatred against them.
Secondly, Canada is 72% CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT, while the rest is either other religion or no religion. And still gay marriage is legal here you sheep
Listen, When you are sitting in front of one house "Proselizing" for YEARS, it no longer is a matter of preaching, it's fundamentally telling people that you despise their way of life.
And the homosexuals didn't commit a crime. their exasperated neihbours finally got sick and tired of there evenings being ruined by folks showing up on a regular basis to troll them.
@gaddez Do you watch any TV? Commercials? Ads in public places? These things are proselytizing you to buy their products, or vote for certain candidates in politics etc etc.
Secondly, if you bothered reading the full story, those preachers hadn't been there for 3 years. The reaction of the mob mentality wasn't justified. Further displayed by Geoffrey Skelding's convenient exclusion of telling us the results of what the police did when they showed up.
@UlfeoinnIII You can turn off a radio or change a tv channel if you don't care to hear what's being said. when people are standing out front of your house reading bible verses it's a little hard to ignore (as the presence of the crowd suggested).
Frankly, I'd be just as irritated if a band of homosexuals showed up outside of my house and proselized the glories of same sex action for years on end.
@gaddez true, but would you scream at those homosexuals "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street?" Imagine how that would look. Why round up 5 neighbours, why such an immediate harsh reaction?
@gaddez You could also add related remarks like "Who are you to tell me that homosexuality isn't a mental illness according to YOUR BELIEF!" just to mirror the above video. Imagine all the crying and whining it would have been then, ohh it would have been so wrong to kick out homosexuals or any other group with such hateful speech.
@gaddez Secondly, today's children are watching shows like "Are you the next star" with an ever increasingly flamboyant homosexual as the host. CHILDREN. And we know how they emulate the stupidest things (emo, goth, gangsta hip hop to name a few). So yeah tell me about proselytizing then. Parents have enough to worry about in this day and age.
Simple truth of the matter here is that the group was irritating a neihbourhood and asked to leave in none too ambiguous manner. That is the right of these people.
@gaddez not you, your stupidity actually :P I guess we as the common folk, as intelligent as the majority of us are... have the power to gather into a mob mentality and kick out any group we feel is going against our "quiet" night and our "beliefs".
Interesting. Your calling me stupid but you don't seem to grasp that these people were Disturbing the peace (a misdemeanor crime) by consistently proselizing in the street.
@gaddez Ugh man, you don't seem to grasp these folks leave near the downtown core and have many occurances that disturb their peace. Like rush hour traffic. Notice the main street Gerrard @ 0:26.
Secondly I had consulted with a police officer on this matter, explained to her there were 5 preachers reading from a bible on the street. She asked me "What time was it when it occured?"
I said during daytime, appears to be in the afternoon. She then said the police would have done NOTHING.
@UlfeoinnIII The fact that there exists loud obnoxious things is not an excuse, 'OK' , or invitation for more loud obnoxious things, you ass-hat. The argument that, because it was a downtown residence in the middle of the day, the religious zealots couldn't have been bothersome just by going on the way they did is retarded.
And IF (big if) the police wouldn't have intervened on behalf of the harrassed neighbours, then consider that they had as much right to express disapproval as the zealots.
@gaddez Basically these folks live downtown and put up with all kinds of noise on a regular basis.
And more importantly, PROSELYTIZING (spell it right FFS) in and of itself. You could say someone playing political "kick the crackers out of the white house" hip house outside your house on the street is PROSELYTIZING.
I would wager 1000 bucks that if such a thing occurred, these neighbours wouldn't have had the balls to step outside and tell them to leave.
@UlfeoinnIII I like How you keep posting multiple responses to me, as though it added more weight to your arguement or somthing.
Now, Since I've wasted enough time arguing this stupid crap with you, these people were pointedly asked to leave. that is the right of the residents. If you don't like it, then go and Proselytize on the steps of the white house how bad christians have it in this day and age that they can't go and preach wherever they please. I'm Sure Fox will Aprove.
@gaddez lol ok, so the issue here is not that they were being loud or whatever, but its so baaaaaad and torturous to hear people reading from the bible right? This is your issue? Not disturbance of the peace, this is not valid as again I argue, they live downtown and get plenty of that elsewhere.
So again I ask you, can neighbours kick out blacks in this exact same manner if they are "proselytizing" with their music? Or homosexuals kissing in sight of a playground?
@UlfeoinnIII Bible-based proselytizing IS obnoxious: a) it's an affront to hard-won civil rights and general secularism, and b) the ontological worldview on which the bible rests is SO insane that listening to people CITE it in criticism of your life choices compounds the irritation of being badgered with the irritation of being forced to listen to shear stupidity fulminating you on your front lawn.
PS: Don't pretend you knew how to spell proselytizing before you looked up "proselizing."
@UlfeoinnIII It's interesting that you equate Black power music with a simple display of affection between two indviduals. It strongly reinforces that I am discussing this matter with a homophobe.
And to your question about the music: If they're camped right out front of my house I'll contact the police to let them know that I am feeling threatened. I'd do the same if an all white group was doing that in front of the house of a black neighbor.
@gaddez Thirdly, Geoffrey Skelding automatically assumed these preachers were targetting a gay couple (because the church has information on where all the gay people live?)
He named this video with the words "religious haters." Despite not actually having heard anything that was said (the "targeted" gay couple said they heard no hate speech).
This behaviour would be the equivalent of a white man seeing black people in front of a home and assuming they are going to break into it.
The act of going into someone else's neighborhood and loudly reading from your holy book outside their house is potentially confrontational. Imagine how you'd feel if someone stood outside your house loudly reading from some Pagan or Satanic book.
@wiccanmoonman wrong, open air preaching is not illegal. Nothing wrong with reading the bible. It'd be like me telling you that homosexuals need to do their thing only in gay bars. See tolerance is a two way street.
What makes bible thumpers morons? Is it because you're a transsexual? That the 3% of society consisting of homosexuals has more rights to be who they are then those reading the bible out on the streets? Wouldn't that make you just as much a bigot?
@UlfeoinnIII Read your book and we can talk. Open air peaching is fine as long as it's not infringing on other rights as being in someones yard screaming like a lunatic.
@wiccanmoonman Let me tell you something, obviously your sexual orientation is poluting both your intellect and common sense. If this was a group of people that were BLACK and were playing hip hop music loudly, first off NO neighbours would have the BALLS to try to kick them out. But if they did using words like "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street" then the average barely 90 IQ individuals such as yourself would see very easily that it would be HATE.
@wiccanmoonman Secondly, these folks are in no one's yard. They are on PUBLIC property.
Thirdly, again, 6 seconds of the neighbour's YELLING is spent addressing noise while the other 82 seconds is hate speech against this religion.
Society is getting sick of minority groups taking advantage of the "(insert discrimination type) card" all the while looking at displays of reverse racism/discrimination.
If this continues, the silent majority will turn into a violent majority.
@UlfeoinnIII These christians need to read their "book" of fairy tales in church where no one can hear it. If they were in my front yard I'd turn a water hose on them.
@wiccanmoonman Right, because Christians need to be tolerant of homosexuals. But homosexuals can't be tolerant to a bible reading?
The fact you said you'd turn your water hose on them proves my point further that you're a bigot.
Secondly, THAT would be against the law. THAT would be considered as harassment.
Again you're just a bigoted man going through sex changes whose life will be a lie when you become a woman fooling future men into thinking you're a woman.
That Scottish sounding dude is right. Who are you to tell me how to believe in God?
trollutillubleed 11 hours ago
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@trollutillubleed "That Scottish sounding dude is right. Who are you to tell me how to believe in God?"
Who is the government to tell me that now I have to pay for my eye exam so some someone can have their sex change operation covered by healthcare dollars which our taxes go towards?
EquitesVeritatis 9 hours ago
Yea old church lady you have the right of freedom of speech but you don't have the right to force your opinion on anyone else.
trollutillubleed 11 hours ago
Religious people want respect but refuse to give it.
BleedingBullets4U 1 day ago
@BleedingBullets4U Funny, because that little throng of 5 evangelists was mutli racial and diverse, unlike the religion hating neighbor's who spoke out for the ENTIRE neighborhood.
Funnier still, if these people were saying "We don't like your KIND on our street" to black guys playing music loudly, we'd see it for the hate crime that it is.
EquitesVeritatis 1 day ago
brilliant video
staranjela 6 days ago
brilliant video
simysimss 1 week ago
Jehovah Witnesses get paid by the hour lol no wonder why they tryed staying for that long be honest if someone told you to leave ill leave with in a heart beat thats so sad to see people that stupid they the (Jehovah Witnesses) aren't doing their jobs right every Sunday whosoever is now at church and is working should be killed asap hahahahahahaha
bking1212 3 weeks ago
They looked like Jehovah Witnesses. Oh how I wish someone would kick them out of MY neighborhood. I put my dog out when I see them coming, so they come to the back door. They stand out there knocking FOREVER.
tra1215 3 weeks ago
John 16:2-3
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
LightResonates 1 month ago
FYI - i've not received a cheque from google yet on this one. Keep up the views! LOL
gskelding 2 months ago
-We've been doing this for seven years.
-And we hated it the whole time!
Bahaha.
tovahification 2 months ago
@tovahification LOL typical leftie retard. They have been doing it for SEVENTY years. 1 time a year for SEVENTY years. The gay man who made this video failed to include ALOT of information to create hatred against religion in support of his own personal bias and leftards are too blind to see that. Eg we don't like your kind on our street doesn't sound like what whites were saying to blacks 50 years ago? OHHH but discrimination and persecution based on Christianity is FINE.
EquitesVeritatis 3 weeks ago
@EquitesVeritatis First off they have not been harassing the same gay couple for seventy years. Maybe for seventy years the have been having some type of anti homosexual meeting once a year. But yes it does matter that it is not their neighborhood and they do not live there. It is one thing to have their gathering in a public place. But to bring the harassment to a persons home? That is way over the line. And disrespectful of the people who live there.
BleedingBullets4U 1 day ago
@BleedingBullets4U They weren't at a person's home, they were on the street. Honestly you liberal downtowners make me want to puke with your double standards. In what fucking context is it ever ok to say, "WE DON'T LIKE YOUR KIND ON OUR STREET?"
Secondly, they have been preaching the bible out on DIFFERENT streets everywhere for 70 years, not in ONE specific location. The GAY creator of this video purposely lied to incite hatred against the preachers.
EquitesVeritatis 1 day ago
@EquitesVeritatis Yes it is perfectly legal to preach on the street. But why that street in front of that house? Because the people living there are gay and they don't like gays. Dislike who ever you want but at least let them have some peace at home. It is very disrespectful to harass people at home they know they are not going to convert anyone doing this. This harassing people at their home this can be a two way street. When people stop being nice and only worry about what is legal it's ugly.
trollutillubleed 11 hours ago
@trollutillubleed ". But why that street in front of that house? Because the people living there are gay and they don't like gays."
Are you retarded? Just jumping to your typical stereotypes right? To the point where you can't actually think logically. Do you think the church has a registry of where gay people live? Or do you think it had to do with a FIRE HYDRANT being there thus freeing up a space on the street to preach.
EquitesVeritatis 9 hours ago
@trollutillubleed Do you also condone the use of the "We don't like your KIND on our street?" said by one of those neighbours? Yes if it were black people the discrimination would have been much easier to see.
EquitesVeritatis 9 hours ago
@trollutillubleed watch?v=2Mu5UEAO9z0&feature=related
read the whole story, which the homosexual who made this video did NOT inform of, with the express aim to incite hatred. YES!! guess what!! not just white people are racists! And gays can be just as bigoted and discriminating as every other human being!
EquitesVeritatis 9 hours ago
These Christian terrorists have no restraint. Jesus was an angry whipper (John 2:15), lost his cool, but they STILL make Jesus their role-model despite the Bible saying what it says. That is the central message of the Bible, Old or New: If you define any group as evil you CAN whip them or genocide them or do anything you want with them. But people are free now; they don't rule, the Constitution does, and rights flow to INDIVIDUALS not religious leaders, so kick them out.
Dracopol 3 months ago
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@Dracopol John 16:2-3
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
VenomFangXP 1 month ago
Why can't these god-lovers do something God would love? Like helping others, donating time or money to those less fortunate... Don't you think THAT is what your god would want rather than annoying and harassing people?
HeavenRiots 4 months ago
This video put a smile on my face. I want to thank everyone especially the person who brought out the video camera for not only standing up for their neighbors, but for protecting their neighborhood as a whole. I wish there were more people like you.
danielleseiley 4 months ago
Street justice: as it should be.
mknomad5 6 months ago
I would have chased them down the street with a chainsaw somebody needs to kill those jesusfreaks
wiccanmoonman 7 months ago
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wiccanmoonman 7 months ago
I'm not religious, but why the f""k should I care if somebody is or is not? what difference does it make?
ChateauSiran1986 8 months ago
Religion is like a penis.
It's fine to have a penis.
It's fine to be proud of your penis.
But please don't whip it out in public.
And please don't shove it down our throats.
kittykattyalex 8 months ago 2
the BEGINING OF BIRTH PAINS is here
curtisthe6th 8 months ago
Obvious, for that gay man to say that ALL Christians shouldn't be allowed to adopt children is DISCRIMINATING. Since Christians tend to be very liberal and are very polarized in their beliefs simply on the fact that there are many many types of Christians. But no one calls it discrimination because a whining minority isn't involved. We've become so wrapped up in protecting the minority we keep screw over the majority eg, No eye exam coverage to pay for sex changes instead thanks to Smitherman
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
@UlfeoinnIII BULLSHIT ALL christians ARE SMALL MINDED MORONIC LUNATICS THAT BELIEVE A BOOK OF FAIRTALE STORIES IS REAL. THEY ARE NOTHING MORE HATEFUL JUDGEMENTAL PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY ARE DOING "gods WORK" THEY ARE NO BETTER THAN THE KKK OR THE NAZIS I LAUGH MY ASS OFF WHEN HEAR ABOUT A CHURCH BURNING TO THE GROUND OR A BUNCH OF THEM DYING.
wiccanmoonman 7 months ago
@wiccanmoonman, Says 'WICCAN'moonman. Ugh, I don't know why everyone keeps acting like Religion and Atheism are different things. They totally aren't they work the same ways. If you don't believe it then people hate you and discriminate against you. So here is my note to everyone, I get to believe how I want to believe, not all the caps and bad grammar in the world is going to change that. Acting like you know more than anyone else is only going to get you laughed at, KTHXBAI.
Kindofshyness 6 months ago
@wiccanmoonman Three words: suck a nut.
CreeperSlayer709 5 months ago
By all means I am NOT against homosexuality, but I do believe that it IS a mental disease (and anyone with half a brain, knowledge in science, awareness of things like BPA etc etc would know these things). (cont)
But what I cannot stand, is reverse discrimination. When the victim becomes the violator. A perfect example of this was a gay man in the UK lobby responsible for adoption of children saying ALL Christians should not be allowed to adopt because of their stand on homosexuality.
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
To continue this point even more for all the secularists and athiests that have brought our society on a morale decline. Whist you say religion forces beliefs on us, who the hell is it for THEM to decide teaching our children about homosexuality in grade 1? Or that homosexuality is normal, or acceptable? (cont)
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
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@UlfeoinnIII "for all the secularists and athiests that have brought our society on a morale decline"
Christianity has had 2000 years to improve morals & failed miserably. Morals have recently improved some despite the opposition of theism.
Take off your godglasses & face reality.
Strangerinasland 6 months ago
A perfect example of the reverse discrimination taking place in this video because NO ONE NOTICED the fact that one of them said, WE DON'T LIKE YOUR KIND ON OUR STREET! But you self defeatist white people would notice if these people were saying this to BLACK PEOPLE.
No one also notices that they only spend 8 seconds out of 90 seconds explaining that these people were being loud, while the rest is insulting the religion etc.
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
This video is total farce and purposely rigged by the man who made it. Thse people show up once a year, and have been doing it for SEVENTY years. The gay man says 7 years to make it sound like its always these people CONSTANTLY preaching on the street. And since you read 7 years, you HEAR 7 years due to the man's accent.
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
Ok i believe in god, but i believe that everyone is equal. i would never discriminate against anyone for there beliefs and lifestyle and like hell i would ever go to someone's home and say such rubbish
PORTUGAL79 10 months ago
I used to share my drive with a church and they were nothing but a pain in the ass, I say live and let live not impose your beliefs onto others let them come to you if their interested in your religion.
MajorVendetta 10 months ago
For some reason, the hippie-sounding chick's line of: "You don't know what love means, sir," just cracks me up every time xD
MaurJacobLUV 10 months ago
I absolutely cannot stand it when people self-righteously force their beliefs on others and hide behind freedom of speech. I would rather have an ex-con knock on my door saying that he moved in next door and is hoping for a fresh start than have such mentally insane lunatics regularly trying to make me believe their fairy tales. If I ever catch such people speaking to my children, I swear I will beat the living shit out of them. Religion is fine, but keep it to yourselves.
DrP1po 10 months ago
@DrP1po certainly its far better for your children to be taught about homosexuality at grade 1. I will say this, 2000 years in Europe the now a day Zionists have been after the death of Christianity (turning Christians against Muslims and vice versa, and funding both sides of the war for profit).
If you notice where there is a Zionist presence in a country (tied to government), you notice secularism taking a hold, and secularism leads to COMMUNISM (corporate), remember Russia retards.
UlfeoinnIII 9 months ago
look at the likes/dislikes and times those numbers by a billion,,,, i like it.
CarrieOnPromNight 11 months ago
why can the world just get rid of all the religous people. good thing im Athiest and the only haters are the neighbors
gato123452 11 months ago
christianity.. hurry up and die off already... slow but steady movement,,, cant happen fast enough.
true sign of how embaressing christianity has become would have to be christian mingle dot com..... just hilarious,,, ohh yah, and kirk cameron.
CarrieOnPromNight 11 months ago
I am sorry, but the only haters I see in this video are the "Neighbors". The "Religious" people have every right to say whatever the hell they want in that neighborhood(Might be 'volume' laws, but other than that, they are protected under Freedom of Speech.) I might not agree with the Jehova's Witnesses'(?)preaching methods in this case, but I do uphold their rights, especially in the face of bigotry, and persecution.
ExpendableGuy 11 months ago
@ExpendableGuy This is not a freedom of spech issue here, this is a disturbance of the peace. If I lived in that neighborhood I would have called the police and filed protective orders against each of those pease killing religious zealots. Then, let them come back again later, becaue then the police can arrest them for violating the protective order. Love your fake god all you want, but do it on your own goddamn property.
canisdormit 9 months ago
@canisdormit It is a Freedom of Speech issue, as it involves these people’s right to speak their mind freely. If they are disturbing the peace, then, as you said, the neighbors can file a complaint, but it still involves the people's freedom of speech. Who said anything about me loving "god"? You are jumping to conclusions; I am certainly not a Jehovah’s Witness, and anyone who is intellectually honest would admit that they cannot conclusively prove God does, or does not exist.
ExpendableGuy 9 months ago
@canisdormit (Cont.) It seems to me that you hate Theists so much, for one reason or another, that you turned that hate on me, simply because of defended their rights. Am I off on this observation?
Also, why would people who follow Theistic ideologies practice in private? Doesn't that defeat the whole idea of having the truth? It wouldn't follow logically for them to do that.
ExpendableGuy 9 months ago
@ExpendableGuy Noone has the right to violate somone else's rights. In this respect I believe it is you who are mistaken. I could care less about these people's (or your) beliefs. The issue here is that they are themselves violating the property and liberty rights of the homeowners of this private neighborhood. If they wish to protest in public it must be on public grounds, not private property. I never said the crazy theists had to practice in private, don't put words in my mouth.
canisdormit 9 months ago
@canisdormit 1) Why are you assuming that I hold the same ideological beliefs as the religious people, even after I said I don't? 2) So we agree about freedom of speech? Sure their methods weren't polite, but as far as I can tell from the video, they are on a public street; I can’t say for sure. It would be somewhat far fetched to call this escapade a “violation” of the neighbor’s rights. Sorry for jumping to a conclusion, it seemed that is what you meant by "practice on your own GD property."
ExpendableGuy 9 months ago
At the end she just had to have the last word...."you are not welcome" ha i agree
arwenevenstar123 1 year ago
fuck off religious ppl!!!!!
ANBUspecialBlackops 1 year ago
What happened to the bit where Jesus said everyone is equal?
georgey51001 1 year ago
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monica24b 1 year ago
@monica24b They are harassing gays at their own home. Seems pretty hateful to me.
moldyantics666 1 year ago
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monica24b 1 year ago
@monica24b Honestly I dont know the whole story ,but it seems the gay couple just didnt want to make a big deal out of it. I know I would not want a bunch of crazy bible thumpers in my neighborhood where my kids play.
moldyantics666 1 year ago
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monica24b 1 year ago
Wow excellent work by the people in the street; my favorite lines
Do you live here?
You're hateful people.
You'e not welcome.
Get the hell out of our neighborhood!
intormentis 1 year ago
What these Baptists did was obviously wrong and irritating. But I wonder if these were emissaries from a different religion (I dare not speak its name) would they have been told where to go so bluntly as well, or would the response from the neighbours have been more diplomatic? I pose the question because I see different standards being used nowadays in approaching different religions. (I happen to agree with Hitchens, who is an equal-opportunity blasphemer.)
MrOctobersurprise 1 year ago
What a bunch of jackasses! Stay indoors or go to the house of a fellow cult-member... Oh, I mean parishioner and leave people alone to live their lives as they see fit. Christians are never happy to just suffer through a life of self-imposed depravation of the beautiful and joyous experiences and wonders around them. They are bent on stopping as many people as possible from enjoying life as well. Jealousy is a terrible thing. Group mentality and fascism: Yay christianity!
mtnbiker1974 1 year ago
Wow their definitely was some nigga synergy going on here!
gravekeepersven 1 year ago
there's been more than one religious group that has knocked on my door, or walked through my neighborhood passing out tracts, they have the RIGHT to do that here in the United States of America, if I don't agree with their VERSION of Christianity (or whatever their religious choice is) , all I have to do is politely say so, "no, thank you, I believe ---", LIKE A CIVIL HUMAN BEING, it's not necessary for ME to become belligerent with them
carolynkirk7 1 year ago
@carolynkirk7 i agree
TheProdigy502 1 year ago
This type of so called preaching is not bringing anyone to Christ, but this type of docterine does cause the people to run away, how counter productive for real christians.
Missytrilakes 1 year ago
Well I was not forced to be religious my family just kind've indoctrinated me as I grew up, but I live in toronto a city known for letting everyone have a piece of pride whether it be about your cultural beliefs or your sexual beliefs I say if you can't handle diversity you need leave. We respect everyone that way karma whether it exists or not doesn't nail us one day for being incredibly insensitive which is something youtube has allowed someone like Ulfeoinlll who loves doing it to do.
Datwizzler 1 year ago
"Evolutionist"
Is that like mathist or a gravityist? Because I just call those people educated. I guess in the little populist bubble of magical thinking education is something to stand up against.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 oh come now, as if you never heard of the Creationist vs Evolutionist.
I can argue for hours on that but in the end, Evolutionists is every bit a religion/ideology as Creationists. Both put faith in things that are not completely proven.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
Holly shitt there is allot of them. Saturday morning i had some freaks come to my house and as soon as they started preaching i slammed my door on them! hahah
Hillsillverr 1 year ago
I'm not homosexual I'm a male to female transsexual and I'm proud of who I am.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
I described this situation to a POLICE OFFICER, here in Toronto. I asked if one COULD actually file a complaint and/or charge people for open air preaching. The police officer said no, only that if one stretches the circumstances to hate speech, but NOT disturbance of the peace before the applicable time of 11pm. These folks had ZERO grounds for doing what they did in this video, which is why the creator of this video failed to include what was done by the police after the fact.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
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wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
I love this video those bible thumping morons have no right to be there. I would have thrown a beer bottle at them a full unopened one.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
LOL love the azn guy who says nothing the entire time and when their leaving yells out, YAH! get the hell out my neighborhood, like hes part of the angry mob now lolol
DMxNemesis 1 year ago
what happened to free speech? radical secularists show their true side
Preachers just doing there job in a public area is not a crime!
kixxx96 1 year ago
@kixxx96 It's not a pulic area it's in front of someones house. I would have had them arrested for trespassing. Then file for restraining order against the entire "church" so they could never come anywhere near the neighborhood again ever.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
@wiccanmoonman it IS a public area. Its ON public property. Read my last post, I asked an actual police officer. Its just like you can't call the police if someone is blasting music loudly from their own house during the DAY before 11pm.
And sorry, a "Neighbourhood" doesn't consist of just 5 people.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
what happened to free speech? radical secularists show their true side
Preachers just doing there job in a public area is not a crime!
kixxx96 1 year ago
I am all about geting the word of god out to ppl but not in a pushy manner alot of christians can get real busy in preaching and forget that there pushing the limit on some ppls toes... The Right they they should have Done is down the street or someplace in a convention center and just have little signs posted places, offer people something to eat (Free) but stay for a little bit and listen and go when u want . sorry for spelling lol people will come!! maybe not all .
KayWal1981 1 year ago
I didnt see them doing much hating? Id like to more of the back story on this. Ah well i wouldnt care who it is id want anyone who came into my neighborhood that was yelling anything to shut the hell up, period
TheLinkMedic 1 year ago
@TheLinkMedic Those preachers hadn't been on that street for THREE years. The actual proper title for this video should have been "Religious haters kick out preachers."
Considering that 6 seconds of dialogue from these Neighbours was spent adressing the noise, while the rest was HATE against religion. Notice the "We don't like your type of people on our street"
Imagine that being said towards 2 gay men kissing on the street? IT wouldn't be so right then would it?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
Excellent!
Avatra1 1 year ago
As a christian I'd just like to say these folks (not the neihbours) are a bunch of assholes, who are quite possibly breaking the law, so yeah Fuck them and the pretencious horse they rode in on.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez How do you know they were preaching out of Leviticus. Were you there? And you say you are a Christian and then you use foul language like that.
PucciPet 1 year ago
@PucciPet
I don't need to have been there to know that they're misquoting a line from leviticus, since the house on that street they happened to be parked out front of happens to have a pair of homosexuals living in it and that's the only part of the bible that really pretains to that.
And the reason why this kind of crap pisses me off is that fundamentalists have been misquoting the bible for years to push a mandate on the people of the US, while so many of them can't uphold the bibles rules.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez They were preaching the Gospel. The Gospel means "Good News". They were telling people how to be certain that their sins can be forgiven and that they can have a relatioship with God through his Son Jesus Christ so that they can inherit eternal life. (John 3:16) Where is the hatred in that message?
PucciPet 1 year ago
@PucciPet
When you are preaching directly at one house for 7 years that's basicly telling people that you despise there way of living, and equates to real life trolling.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez I'd call it harassment and causing a public nuisance. In harassment, as in stalking, actions which are not in themselves illegal (such as street preaching) can be considered illegal if they show a continuing pattern. Following someone around for a day is legal, following that person for weeks on end is illegal. Similarly, street preaching is legal, but preaching hate outside one house for years is definitely wrong.
(Caveat: I am not familiar with US law on these issues.)
TRiG.
qwertyTRiG 1 year ago
@qwertyTRiG yep, another idiot who just fell for Geoffrey Skelding's description and didn't bother reading the full story. Ah society is so full of people like you sadly.
Or wait, judging by the beautiful BOY videos you have on your channel, its pretty obvious why you take this stance of ignorance against what went on. So predictable really.
You know the gay couple that was supposedly targeted came right out and told the media that they were NOT being targeted. Read the story.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@PucciPet Forgiven? By whom? What is to forgive? This is despicable behaviour. Religious people should practice their seances in their little churches and stay out of the face of real people. There is no god, you fool.
BeeRich33 1 year ago
@PucciPet
What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling. You can believe in whatever fantasy you wish, but I should have the right to avoid your proselytizing in my own home.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 You're nothing but a sheeple falling for a GAY man's hate propaganda. They were NOT being targeted, the homosexual couple came right out and said that the next day. But the fag that made this video doesn't write that in his description, with obvious reason.
Noise levels before 11pm are not enough on a legal basis, a cop will laugh at you if you call them before that time for any related disturbance, like music being played loudly.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
So perhaps I'm wrong. Your inability to say as much without implying that I'm stupid, in addition to your bigotry, does not paint a very good picture of yourself. If this is what "loving" religion imparts, then I'm happy to be as far away from it as possible.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Hang on a second, do you think I am a narrow minded individual sheltered in my own biased viewpoints such as yourself? How do you know I am religious?
Unlike you I don't have a left wing or right wing mentality. I see the truth, even at the expense of PC.
My implication of your stupidity is that you obviously watch something, give it 2 seconds of limited thought, and make a judgment that is supportive of your personal bias against religion, which in turn makes you a bigot.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII Yes, you're narrow-minded. Your use of insulting homophobic language is clear evidence of that.
TRiG.
qwertyTRiG 1 year ago
@qwertyTRiG Ah yeah, what is it exactly that I said that was homophobic?
I'm fine with gay people, but I am not fine with someone who incites hatred against a group he automatically assumes is inciting hatred against him and his kind (Geoffrey Skelding, read his words in the story.)
I think you should just stick to watching your beautiful BOY videos. And if thats you riding the bike on your video, wtf are you doing watching beautiful BOY vids at your age??
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message."
You made this comment without doing any research on the story. I informed you that, these preachers had not been on that street in THREE years. The GAY (his sexual orientation had obvious implications to the actions he took) man who made this video failed to inform everyone of this in his description, with OBVIOUS reason. This is a hate video.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 And I am going to tell you something else, I used to have a neutral attitude towards gays. Until this video. I have been ignorant of the reverse racism and discrimination that goes on in society. Because one often judges those who are victimized with contempt. To the point that when these groups turn around and commit crimes of hatred and discrimination themselves, it is ignored. (Look at Israel for example).
Google "When Victims Rule" and give it a read
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Yeah, I feel real bad about that poor oppressed 90%+ minority, and all the cultural concessions that come with that. Next you'll be rambling about the war on Christmas.
Look, it's inconsiderate to stand outside of homes preaching when the homeowners don't want you there. Saying you're doing it because god is awesome doesn't excuse that. The notion that homeowners shouldn't say something if it bothers them, simple because they are preaching, is frankly alarming.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 So the above warrants the reaction of yelling and criticizing these preachers with "We don't like your TYPE of people on our streets" after they hadn't been there for THREE years?
The point is LAWS exist for a reason. I put up with LOUD music from neighbours, clubs (cultural centres) and PARKS (cultural festivals) that are in my area. Its called tolerance. If you want complete silence, leave the city.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 and lol at your 90% minority and all their cultural concessions comment. Yep there's noooooooooo undertones of hate in your voice.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Lol at your vague dismissal. It speaks volumes. I submit that you see hate because you set out to find it. I support religious freedom in the context of separation 100%. I also think it should be a personal issue that is ACTUALLY kept personal, rather than trotted out in the public sphere or used to browbeat unbelievers/others religions.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Do you know what the word arrogance means? It doesn't matter what YOU as an individual supports or believes in. If society functioned in this manner, NO ONE would get along.
That is why there are LAWS. What the preachers did was NOT against the laws. Like I said, I put up with MUCH louder disturbances in my neighbourhood of which stem from CULTURAL celebrations.
Open air preaching is NOT illegal in Toronto and nowhere near as loud, which leaves the OBVIOUS conclusion.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
You made the legal argument. I did not. I'm speaking simply from a perspective of civility and respect. It speaks volumes that you don't even attempt to rebut these, but instead continue with the legal strawman. You're essentially admitting that these people disregard the wishes of those they're preaching to. Thank you for supporting my argument, whether you realized it or not.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Really? So should I gather up 5 neighbours and go storm the park 2 blocks from my house when an Italian or Portuguese festival is going on because they are forcing their music on me?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Fact is these folks live downtown, where they have MUCH louder distractions then what I get in my neighbourhood. This was nothing but mob mentality against the religion, period. They spent 6 seconds adressing these people as being too loud, and that is the ONLY complaint they could have had that was LEGIT. But there are MUCH louder distractions near the downtown core, PERIOD.
Secondly, we know what kind of people used the words "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street."
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
You're still sidestepping my ACTUAL argument. Why so disingenuous?
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Really? How have I side stepped it? According to the mob mentality in this video, neighbours can unite and kick out any type of behaviour or people they don't like from their neighbourhood.
Like kicking out a group of black people playing hip hop too loudly (and saying we don't like your TYPE of people on our street)
Or 2 gay guys kissing in front of our children. Or a muslim prayingin a neighbourhood parkette, need I go on?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII Regardless of the noise level of the area, if the homeowners did not wish to be preached at while in their homes, their wishes should be respected. Perhaps they handled it poorly or were wrong in their assumptions of homophobia, but civility and respect dictate that "loving, caring, good people" respect those wishes. Often religion gets a concession here since it is assumed to be virtous by merit and who wouldn't want to listen to blabber about god, right?
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Plain and simple, the LAW is not made up of PERSONAL opinions. And if the above video was the EXACT same circumstances, with the EXACT same YELLING and words being repeated against any other GROUP, it would have been a hate crime.
Again, telling black people playing hip hop loudly "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street".
Is this simple enough for you? You can't make excuses for it to be OK just because the TYPICAL opposing groups roles have been reversed.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Again, I'm not speaking of legal restrictions. What's so hard to understand about that? I guess I should take from this that Christians aren't terribly concerned with being civil or respecting the wishes of nonbeliever so long as it isn't against the law. Awesome. Not worth it to continue.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Don't ignore the FACTS to suit to your personal agenda.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
I've given you the benefit of the doubt on every purported "fact" you've put forth. I don't even care if they're actually true, because it doesn't impact my argument one bit! Could you possibly, I don't know, read, comprehend and address what I've actually said instead of all this empty hyperbole?
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Go look up Canadian law.
LAW is important because as the above shows, its dangerous to leave things to one's interpretations of whats civil.
If neighbours thought 2 gay guys kissing in front of their kids playing on the lawn wasn't civil, does it mean they can kick them out of the neighbourhood?
Gay pride parade for example, displays levels of nudity (even complete) which would be ILLEGAL in any other circumstances.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Are you slow? I don't care about the law - I'm talking about basic respect. A concept you seem dead set to defend against. That says more than I ever could.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 I am very aware about your adressing respect, its you that fails to grasp I have been addressing this SEVERAL times, very PLAINLY in fact. Then again your power of observation is about as thorough as Israel investigating its attack on the USS Liberty.
Respect would have been "You guys are making too much noise, can you please leave?"
Not 6 seconds of YELLING about noise levels and 84 seconds of hateful words like "We don't like your type of people on our street."
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 this is a quote that perfectly describes you (and the multitudes that have your like mindedness).
"There is a principal which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principal is contempt prior to investigation."
Contempt in this case because you automatically assume the religious stance against homosexuals. It thus blinds you against the truth of what went on in this video.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Now you're just being dishonest. I admitted that I may have been wrong. I'm done trying to reason with you. Have fun trolling.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 dishonest? LOL anyone that knows me knows I am honest almost to a fault. Political correctness often tosses honesty aside.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 So yeah my lesson from you is if I don't like a cultural festival making loud noise near my house, forcing their music on me, I can get neighbours together to kick them out. Because in today's society, we bend over backwards to be tolerant of the few, when the few cannot be tolerant of the many?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
I'd repeat my point but you'd just ignore it so you can substitute your strawman version. So what's the point? The homeowners don't have a legal right to make anyone leave. I never said this, so clearly you are being disingenuous. But civil, respectful people would not continue to preach at people who don't wish to be preached at.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 And that is what I have been arguing as well, they DON'T have the legal right to make anyone leave, but they made them leave anyway.
The man who made this video is GAY, and misinforms the viewers by failing to include the fact these preachers had not been on their street for THREE years. But when one is misled by his description and listening to the reaction of the neighbors, one thinks they were there everyday!
A hate video is a hate video. Stop being a pleb
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 My case is further proven by your comment you made 1 week ago.
You wrote "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling."
You obviously fell for Geoffrey Skelding's ploy. Sorry its not trolling if they hadn't been there for THREE YEARS.
Its seriously scary that society consists of so many intellectually incompetent fools that can be led by the hatred of a man so easily.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Just to point out how dishonest UlfeoinnIII's arguments are... notice how he is now harping on a statement I've since admitted could've been made in fault. I openly admitted that I may have been wrong, and have given him the benefit of the doubt on all purported facts he's put forth. Does this matter? NO! He needs to attack my person by calling me a bigot since he can't address my arguments.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 still reaching? You openly admitted you may have been wrong but still pressed the issue? Its the same as the gay man who made this video left a link to the true story knowing full well that the majority of viewers would be too lazy to click on it (I bet you didn't)
What were your responses outside of calling me dishonest? You spoke of civility but fail to see the only ppl behaving uncivilized. Toss in some torches and pitchforks, it would complete the mob mentality they displayed.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
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UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 I knew your view towards the above display was biased, I just assumed it was because you were gay. But let me guess, you're one of those evolutionist nut jobs?
Tell me anything in the evolution theory that is not 100% infallible?
Yet you have a video favorited calling the religious "Creationists" morons. Like I said, I read your bias towards the above circumstances, it made me assume you were gay but either way I was right in the end :P
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Now he shifts the goal posts to an unrelated topic in attempt to discredit my person. A red herring and ad hominem all rolled up in one. Fallacies ahoy! And yet he has attacked my intellect on numerous occasions. THIS is the level of discourse we can expect from collectivist religionist.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Nope, I called you right out. But your intellectual incompetance and your anti religion bias.
Again you wrote "What they believe is irrelevant if the people they are targeting for 7 years do not wish to hear the message. It's essentially real life trolling."
Your lazy ass didn't bother doing any research on the story before voicing your opinion. You reacted exactly as gskelding wanted you to react. This makes you a pleb, a sheeple of which there are plenty of in our society.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 I bet you believe in Sept 11 and the war on terrorism, and Israel's claim to Palestine, and everything else you see on TV like the good sheep you are.
The Zionists that rule your country and have it by the balls both in congress and financially love people like you who don't ask questions, and just believe whatever is shown on the television :)
See the thing that separates me from you is I ask questions, I do research BEFORE forming an opinion, ESPECIALLY before stating one.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Still making personal attacks I see. I don't even have to say anything to make you look bad - you do it on your own.
FYI, I'm against our support of Israel and Iraq. You'd know this if you did as you say, and asked before deciding for me. LOL. It's cool though, everyone has their lapses. REASONABLE people understand this.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 I am shocked? You made an opinion on the above video without doing any research, and yet you oppose support on Israel and Iraq? You are a man of contradictions.
Please, inform me as to why you don't support Israel and Iraq, you have me curious now
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 oh wait, ops should I have seen the obvious? You don't support Israel because of your stance against religion? Therefore not believing in the bible equates to you believing that these self proclaimed people of God have no right to Israel?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
It's kind of amusing watching these thought processes unfold. :p
First, I don't have a stance against religion. I don't believe personally, but I don't care if you do - so long as your beliefs remain personal. Religious statism and collectivist moralism are harmful to everyone, minority religious groups included.
Israel's status as a sovereign state is not in question imo. I don't support some of their actions against Palestinians or our economic support.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@ephekt420 So... without religion, and abiding only by laws since laws apparently teach us morals as well. I could sleep with your wife, and that would be ok?
Frankly
Religion without intelligence is dangerous
but intelligence without religion is even more dangerous
Just look at all the wonderful weapons we've invented to inflict suffering upon our fellow man. Whilst the common folk may be religious, governments are not. They consist of men with 100 dollar haircuts who do not fear God.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 but honestly, PM me on why it is you don't support Israel, I am hoping to find a response that is more then one dimensional.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 I am not an abuser, I just hate stupid people that voice their opinions no matter how uninformed they are. Its a dangerous thing because the majority of the plebs of which society consists of, will have their own opinion polluted by these very same morons. It is often the viaduct through which things like hate against a targeted group spread.
And had these folks been gay, or of any other color etc NO behaviour warrants the mob mentality taking the law into their own hands.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 Tell me did these neighbours have a right to say "We don't like your TYPE of people here"
White trash in the USA used to say these things to the black folk (and now black folk are saying these words to the hispanics moving in)
Then we have "And we have HATED it the WHOLE TIME!" How?? its been 3 years? Need I explain more dialogue that is obvious hatred?
YOU as such the one dimensional thinker that you are, did not notice these things before making your "trolling" statement.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@ephekt420 see the other guy, @wiccanmoonman, its was obvious to understand why his grasp of what happened in the above was very polluted by self bias. He's a man turning into a woman, and thus auto assumes religion is against it. Of course he would argue in favor of gskelding.
You see if society had more people such as myself, we wouldn't sheepishly falling for all the "Hitler" propaganda going on around us. USA again is another perfect example of this.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@gaddez and what makes you say the preachers were being assholes? Did you hear any hate speech?
In fact, who did all the YELLING in the video? Which parties had hatred in their voices?
Just because we automatically percieve the religious to be against homosexuals, doesn't make it ok for a homosexual to commit a crime of hatred against them.
Secondly, Canada is 72% CATHOLIC and PROTESTANT, while the rest is either other religion or no religion. And still gay marriage is legal here you sheep
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Listen, When you are sitting in front of one house "Proselizing" for YEARS, it no longer is a matter of preaching, it's fundamentally telling people that you despise their way of life.
And the homosexuals didn't commit a crime. their exasperated neihbours finally got sick and tired of there evenings being ruined by folks showing up on a regular basis to troll them.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez Do you watch any TV? Commercials? Ads in public places? These things are proselytizing you to buy their products, or vote for certain candidates in politics etc etc.
Secondly, if you bothered reading the full story, those preachers hadn't been there for 3 years. The reaction of the mob mentality wasn't justified. Further displayed by Geoffrey Skelding's convenient exclusion of telling us the results of what the police did when they showed up.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII You can turn off a radio or change a tv channel if you don't care to hear what's being said. when people are standing out front of your house reading bible verses it's a little hard to ignore (as the presence of the crowd suggested).
Frankly, I'd be just as irritated if a band of homosexuals showed up outside of my house and proselized the glories of same sex action for years on end.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez true, but would you scream at those homosexuals "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street?" Imagine how that would look. Why round up 5 neighbours, why such an immediate harsh reaction?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@gaddez You could also add related remarks like "Who are you to tell me that homosexuality isn't a mental illness according to YOUR BELIEF!" just to mirror the above video. Imagine all the crying and whining it would have been then, ohh it would have been so wrong to kick out homosexuals or any other group with such hateful speech.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@gaddez Secondly, today's children are watching shows like "Are you the next star" with an ever increasingly flamboyant homosexual as the host. CHILDREN. And we know how they emulate the stupidest things (emo, goth, gangsta hip hop to name a few). So yeah tell me about proselytizing then. Parents have enough to worry about in this day and age.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Wow, I seem to have touched a nerve.
Simple truth of the matter here is that the group was irritating a neihbourhood and asked to leave in none too ambiguous manner. That is the right of these people.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez not you, your stupidity actually :P I guess we as the common folk, as intelligent as the majority of us are... have the power to gather into a mob mentality and kick out any group we feel is going against our "quiet" night and our "beliefs".
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII
Interesting. Your calling me stupid but you don't seem to grasp that these people were Disturbing the peace (a misdemeanor crime) by consistently proselizing in the street.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez Ugh man, you don't seem to grasp these folks leave near the downtown core and have many occurances that disturb their peace. Like rush hour traffic. Notice the main street Gerrard @ 0:26.
Secondly I had consulted with a police officer on this matter, explained to her there were 5 preachers reading from a bible on the street. She asked me "What time was it when it occured?"
I said during daytime, appears to be in the afternoon. She then said the police would have done NOTHING.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII The fact that there exists loud obnoxious things is not an excuse, 'OK' , or invitation for more loud obnoxious things, you ass-hat. The argument that, because it was a downtown residence in the middle of the day, the religious zealots couldn't have been bothersome just by going on the way they did is retarded.
And IF (big if) the police wouldn't have intervened on behalf of the harrassed neighbours, then consider that they had as much right to express disapproval as the zealots.
Superlativesweetie 1 year ago
@gaddez Basically these folks live downtown and put up with all kinds of noise on a regular basis.
And more importantly, PROSELYTIZING (spell it right FFS) in and of itself. You could say someone playing political "kick the crackers out of the white house" hip house outside your house on the street is PROSELYTIZING.
I would wager 1000 bucks that if such a thing occurred, these neighbours wouldn't have had the balls to step outside and tell them to leave.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII I like How you keep posting multiple responses to me, as though it added more weight to your arguement or somthing.
Now, Since I've wasted enough time arguing this stupid crap with you, these people were pointedly asked to leave. that is the right of the residents. If you don't like it, then go and Proselytize on the steps of the white house how bad christians have it in this day and age that they can't go and preach wherever they please. I'm Sure Fox will Aprove.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez lol ok, so the issue here is not that they were being loud or whatever, but its so baaaaaad and torturous to hear people reading from the bible right? This is your issue? Not disturbance of the peace, this is not valid as again I argue, they live downtown and get plenty of that elsewhere.
So again I ask you, can neighbours kick out blacks in this exact same manner if they are "proselytizing" with their music? Or homosexuals kissing in sight of a playground?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII Bible-based proselytizing IS obnoxious: a) it's an affront to hard-won civil rights and general secularism, and b) the ontological worldview on which the bible rests is SO insane that listening to people CITE it in criticism of your life choices compounds the irritation of being badgered with the irritation of being forced to listen to shear stupidity fulminating you on your front lawn.
PS: Don't pretend you knew how to spell proselytizing before you looked up "proselizing."
Superlativesweetie 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII It's interesting that you equate Black power music with a simple display of affection between two indviduals. It strongly reinforces that I am discussing this matter with a homophobe.
And to your question about the music: If they're camped right out front of my house I'll contact the police to let them know that I am feeling threatened. I'd do the same if an all white group was doing that in front of the house of a black neighbor.
gaddez 1 year ago
@gaddez Thirdly, Geoffrey Skelding automatically assumed these preachers were targetting a gay couple (because the church has information on where all the gay people live?)
He named this video with the words "religious haters." Despite not actually having heard anything that was said (the "targeted" gay couple said they heard no hate speech).
This behaviour would be the equivalent of a white man seeing black people in front of a home and assuming they are going to break into it.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
Sounds like to me the residents are the hateful ones. I don't see the preachers being confrontational but the residents are the one confrontational.
PucciPet 1 year ago
@PucciPet
The act of going into someone else's neighborhood and loudly reading from your holy book outside their house is potentially confrontational. Imagine how you'd feel if someone stood outside your house loudly reading from some Pagan or Satanic book.
ephekt420 1 year ago
@PucciPet They have ever right to be. The bible thumpers need to go to their little church to do that bs.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago 2
@wiccanmoonman wrong, open air preaching is not illegal. Nothing wrong with reading the bible. It'd be like me telling you that homosexuals need to do their thing only in gay bars. See tolerance is a two way street.
What makes bible thumpers morons? Is it because you're a transsexual? That the 3% of society consisting of homosexuals has more rights to be who they are then those reading the bible out on the streets? Wouldn't that make you just as much a bigot?
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII Read your book and we can talk. Open air peaching is fine as long as it's not infringing on other rights as being in someones yard screaming like a lunatic.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
@wiccanmoonman Let me tell you something, obviously your sexual orientation is poluting both your intellect and common sense. If this was a group of people that were BLACK and were playing hip hop music loudly, first off NO neighbours would have the BALLS to try to kick them out. But if they did using words like "We don't like your TYPE of people on our street" then the average barely 90 IQ individuals such as yourself would see very easily that it would be HATE.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@wiccanmoonman Secondly, these folks are in no one's yard. They are on PUBLIC property.
Thirdly, again, 6 seconds of the neighbour's YELLING is spent addressing noise while the other 82 seconds is hate speech against this religion.
Society is getting sick of minority groups taking advantage of the "(insert discrimination type) card" all the while looking at displays of reverse racism/discrimination.
If this continues, the silent majority will turn into a violent majority.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago
@UlfeoinnIII These christians need to read their "book" of fairy tales in church where no one can hear it. If they were in my front yard I'd turn a water hose on them.
wiccanmoonman 1 year ago
@wiccanmoonman Right, because Christians need to be tolerant of homosexuals. But homosexuals can't be tolerant to a bible reading?
The fact you said you'd turn your water hose on them proves my point further that you're a bigot.
Secondly, THAT would be against the law. THAT would be considered as harassment.
Again you're just a bigoted man going through sex changes whose life will be a lie when you become a woman fooling future men into thinking you're a woman.
UlfeoinnIII 1 year ago