Randy Barnes Shotput Progression Since 7th Grade

[TheThrower4Life]

the only reason u guys r saying that everything randy did was fake n he only did it cuz he was taking steriods is cuzu wish that u could have accomplished wht he did

[OrnateBoxer]

2:16 - 2:30

very VERY impressive mullet.

[68kenton]

BEST SHOT PUTTER KNOWN TO MAN! YEAHHHAAH!!!

[hassardstephen]

it was a joke trying to represent how you shouldnt say you threw something with out getting it on film or officially recorded

[hassardstephen]

im not saying randy didnt throw this but it is easy to say you pr' ed by 4 feet when all you see is the spin i mean i throw 75 meters in the discus in practice if you only look at my spin

[TeamR0Gu3]

@hassardstephen 75 meters? i would SERIOUSLY like to see that considering that is 246 feet....

[TheThrower4Life]

@TeamR0Gu3 agreed

[lemuel234]

it has to be steriods his technique is horrible. his going slow threw the circle

[zayakastudmuffin]

just broke my school record in JH..44'1''

[gonzo52maples]

i throw 32' 11 and im in 8th grade is that good ?

[gamingkingnumber1]

@gonzo52maples I was at a recent district meet for 8th grade and under. The furthest throw was 34'11" so, yeah, that's about 3rd place (at that last meet anyway). I'm in 8th grade and my highest is 33'11"

[gonzo52maples]

i throw 32' 11 and im in 8th grade is that good

[evkero]

Roids :/

[TheLegacy3130]

Not at all, with some technique variation I boosted my bench from 305 to 381 in 9 weeks, supplement free. It's not hard you just have to go about it right. I weigh 210 & am still in high school. If you pay special attention to the right (back) foot, you'll notice on his farther throws he actually lands about 3-4in to the right of a dead center line. This allows for greater hip thrust as well as chest/arm extension. Weather by accident or design, he truly created the best shot put technique ever.

[downfall4you]

I throw shot put. It's all technique and speed. Yes you need to be strong, but good technique and explosive speed is more important

[Love2watchVidsonYT]

it's easy to see how he increased his distance with the shot throughout time... he was afraid to go over the tow board when he was younger but if you actually pay attention to the video and are a thrower you can see he actually has a lot more extension in his throw and his chest/shoulders go over the tow board as time goes by so steroids probably did help but improving his technique helped the most.

[aeiou99999]

You need strong legs, a strong back, strong shoulders, strong chest, strong arm -- and you need to bee explosive. And then you need technique. There is no single thing that can get you there.

[aeiou99999]

You need strong legs, a strong back, strong shoulders, strong chest, strong arm -- and you need to explosive. And then you need technique. There is no single thing that can get you there.

[revshadows7]

TheBruiser is right everyone else loses.

[TheBruiser012]

Why is everyone saying "this is better than that" and bla bla bla?

Barnes squatted 600, benched 500 and cleaned 310. All for reps, he also did triceps extensions overhead with 200lbs (90kg).

You think that he would have done the other three if only one exercise mattererd? The shot is driven by every pushing muscle your body can damn recruit, not just the quads - not just the triceps.

[aeiou99999]

@TheBruiser012 I agree completely. Plenty of guys can do one of these but they are not remotely close to this kind of shot putting.

[shotputman7]

Donde esta la World Record?

[Bulldog76center]

its all about squat and power cleaning most important lifts to work on if you do shot put.

[tedfopreident]

@Bulldog76center I dont know about that. christian cantwell benches 635 and only squats 650...in other words his bench is about the weight of the shot away from his squat.

[RealFast0Food]

the most important lift for shot is power clean

[Zyanerak]

@zachary2327 shot put is not mostly triceps and shoulder muscles, not even mostly upper body. shot put is mostly lower body actually, because its your legs and hips that start the acceleration through and up to your upper body to get the shot to go farther. the upper body is important, but its definitely not everything

[zachary2327]

@railroader78 weight lift. in shot it's about triceps and shoulder muscles mainly. i would know because i do shot put. im in eighth grade

[TheBruiser012]

@zachary2327 odd kid, I'm in 10th and I know for a fact that without the hips starting off the extension of my shoudlers my standing throw wouldn't be 9.80 with a 5kg shot. I also know that without strong shoulders, my hip drive would be going to waste. You need both.

[izallskilfoo]

I think squat matters almost more then bench in shot put.

[tashtan1]

@izallskilfoo every of those matters a lot, bench press first, squat 2nd

[DarkPrynce]

bench matters sooo much less then squat in throwing its stupid. Now if you where to say incline bench and squat where on par id still be a bit skeptical but id agree there close. Incline is the money upper body life.

[Daydreamerdude13]

@izallskilfoo

Indeed it does. About 90% of your power in a shot put throw comes from the legs. Makes sense since your legs are normally the strongest muscles in the body.

[skylarwill]

@izallskilfoo squat does matter more than bench but clean is the most important for the explosion

[MrKleffler]

i 100 years old and I can bench the bar..

[revshadows7]

HAHAHAHAHA it makes me laugh all of you 30-40 year old guys coming onto this video bragging you benched "so much" in highschool. hahahaahahaahahahahaaha

and randy barnes is a beast

[Unit4526]

I know a fifteen year old that can bench 235, and he's only 5'8 160

[uwbadgerfan101]

I'm 15 and i bench 255?

my buddy is 15 and he benches 315

[Unit4526]

@uwbadgerfan101 that would be called a case of steroids smart one.

[klig70]

he addmited to using steriods, to bad he had great potentional. oh and its not just what you bench but what you squat and clean as well

[MrJerZBoi]

i bench 330.. but im 17

[treatingyou]

Juicin' loser banned from olympic sports...

[rhysrhys2231]

This is awesome, he definitely looks like he emulating Brian Oldfield when he first started spinning.

[TheStrengthTrainer]

Did barnes really bench 250 when he was 14

Or is that bull

[lift2live1]

all pro were unbelievably gifted before they begin everything, like having 20 inch gun, squatting 500 the first time or bring 242 lbs bdw at 5% of bodyfat....etc etc.

It's bullshit, the true it's they're all on roids and to hide thsi fact they argue about there unbelieable gift...

[rhysrhys2231]

I bet it is true, I threw shot in college, around 50', nothing special and I could bench 285 my freshman year of high school.

[yorkie4life2]

i bench 250... but im 15 =(

[cdeavellar1]

well i benched 315 in high school and couldn't even throw 50 feet let alone 60 ft. so i think its possible

[buffboyJIE]

its possible

[chadcite]

@railroader78 yea he was clearly on the juice

[Tallthespian009]

@railroader78... i don't believe steroids were the case. Look at his technique on the 61ft throw, his spin was terrible. His form was improved drastically was once he was throwing the 16lb.

[Tallthespian009]

@railroader78 i don't believe steroids were the case. Look at his technique on the 61ft throw, his spin was terrible. His form was improved drastically was once he was throwing the 16lb.

[pantherafist]

@railroader78 steroids or not...thats one hell of a shot put..and I dont know if you know this..almost not olympian today is clean...they just havent been caught...especially the sprinters lifters and throwers...doesnt mean they are not special though...

[meowmixmeowmix23]

@afor653 thats not true at all buddy alot of it has to be fat if your gaining that much

[sniper6636]

@railroader78 is it hard to imagin taking your bench max from 160 to 215 in one year? no just hard work and practice

[agentbobbarker]

@sniper6636 What are you talking about? Increasing a weak bench by 50lbs is a lot easier than switching to a heavier shot and throwing 8ft more.

[sniper6636]

@agentbobbarker i can throw the 12 45 and the 16 42 its not that much different and its not that much harder to throw the 16 over the 12 its just that you need better form

[agentbobbarker]

@sniper6636 We're talking about lbs, right? Lets use some math.

12/16= 3/4

3/4-1= 1/4.

So your distance should be 1/4 less.

So your 45 should be around a 32'6" with a 16, but since there are minor factors also applied, lets just make it 1/6 less.

37'5 feet.

So, I do not believe you. Unless you threw the 12 your senior year in highschool and the 16 in college.

[sniper6636]

@agentbobbarker im a sophmore in highschool

[68kenton]

@railroader78 his technique got better as he progressed, you can tell very easily that from 1985 - 1986 his technique went from crap to professional

[TeamR0Gu3]

@railroader78 havent you ever heard of practice and powerlifting?

[ptarleton]

@railroader78 I imagine he probably played Football through High School, essentially cutting in half the amount of time he could train for Shot Put. He also probably benefitted greatly from being in a better program when moving from High School to College (Better Coaches, better training, etc). So you have all that AND Randy has tested positive for banned substances several times.

So you're right, it's certainly not hard to think roids where involved, but probably so was other stuff

[sergilus]

What are randy barnes and brian oldfield doing now? where have they gone, i mean are they even alive?

[railroader78]

oldfields living near chicago now. i saw him last year at an NTCA conference in indiana. he's in a wheelchair now from all the surgeries he's had. last i heard barnes was doing long drive competitions but other than that idk

[sergilus]

thanks, whats a long drive competition by the way?

[railroader78]

long drive as in golf. i heard he's pretty good at it too.

[sergilus]

ohhh. cause ive been looking all over the internet and i couldnt find any recent picture of them. only of oldfield in a wheel chair. thanks

[VanniliaFace45]

I won't lie Randy Barnes was an awesome thrower, but it just sickens me to know that he got caught with roids

[70footer]

wow great visual learning tool , of where correct technique starts and where it ends...best thrower ever in my book

[Hodge008]

If you spin and dont foul/scratch your obviously doing it wrong. I'm not saying that you should scratch on purpose obviously, just scratching in general.

[gibsocam]

he scrached on some of those

[cdeavellar1]

so what

[Schultz98]

alot of those throws woudlnt count because he foul'ed alot of those. I dont blame him though spinning like tha tiwht a 16 would be hard to stay in the circle. I bearly have the glide down pat.

[Ploxinator]

Gah, the faulting really annoys me. He is really amazing, but faulting is my pet peeve

[Austinthemovieman]

Ok so i know that this is gonna get flamed by some health nut or some shit like that but im not even sure how many of the people who posted on this video even know how steroids works

Steroids are all about the concept of giving you energy, and they have nothing to do with building up muscle blah blah steroids work so you can train harder for longer amounts of time so regardless if he took steroids or not he still put a hell of alot of work into it. By the way i do not support steroid use

[decadoc]

You need to educate yourself, anabolic steroids build muscle. I recommend the endocrinology chapter in The Essentials of Strength & Conditioning.

I have no doubt Barnes put in a ton of work, but the fact remains he likely would not have reached the level of performance he attained without the use of exogenous testesterone use. The only reason his WR remains today is his refusal to admit he was using at the time of his longest throw even though he tested positive very shortly afterward.

[decadoc]

If you would like a more in depth explanation on how testesterone builds muscle, I would be happy to educate you on the concepts of hormone upregulation and receptor sensitivity in human skeletal muscle. But if you don't want the same 2 hour lecture I give in my strength & conditioning classes, I suggest you just take my word for it.

[flame123652]

sorry man didn't read your reply. I'm only in Gr.9 ( a long distance runner) so I know nothing about this stuff. I was jsut watching a video on a body builder, apparently he used the type of steroids that can make workout longer. Not the steroids that contain growth hormone and cell synthesis. It's pretty sexy stuff. Had to google it.

[cdeavellar1]

he didn't get caught anabolic steriods the second time he got caught. he was using a testerone booster which you can get at gnc or any over the counter place. at the time it was legal to use. the only time he actually used the really hardcore steriods was his freshmen year at texas A and M. But really a lot of his competitors used steriods. Hell the world record holder in the hammer Sedych used steriod to. so did ulf but he was smart and never got caught.

[flame123652]

That is true, roids make you're body like a machine. This is the part that makes you a lunatic. If they simply boosted your muscle build-up they would be called a supplement and not a drug.

[Nooobuser]

ok even if he took steroids that is his choice and it shouldnt be held against someone of they took a substance to get stronger. if that is the case then they should ban the use of protein powder then i mean shit people are just straight up haters these days and have to find some way to discredit people for their accomplishments and why they are better than the next man.

[Faldy15]

He didn't get caught for steroids, it was just a banned sunstance...big difference. And besides, he fought it and won which means that people who are much more qualified than any of you deemed that he was not guilty.

[ttofish]

Yeah, the banned substance happened to be methyltestosterone, which is A STEROID! In 1990 he tested positive the first time and lost his appeal to have it overturned. In 1996 he tested positive a 2nd time and was banned for life! It wasn't "just a banned substance"--how ridiculous for you to say that!

[Faldy15]

You're right, i made a mistake. But the guy threw his indoor world record and didn't get caught and his outdoor record was ratified. So no one can say that he wasn't a good thrower. He got silver in Seoul where he was tested.

[tmbmastertrev]

Well sorry im a baseball player and I dont see him vary often.

[bldystuffrocks]

his rotations are so damn fast towards the end of the video, unbelievable

[tmbmastertrev]

Thats my uncle

[matzner21]

your uncle is a discrace for taking steriods i hope he realizes that...

[123linesstring]

he does not look like he takes steroids

[matzner21]

Well he got caught taking steroids so it really doesnt matter what he looks like...

[GreatAxeLord]

true but he did almost throw 80 feet

[msparks1225]

you guys claim steroids but im sure it wasnt cuz if you watch how much better his technique gets you'll understand why he got so good

[matzner21]

Dude he got caught taking steriods....

[berny5237]

The title should be called The Results of Steriods

[firstwave2]

FOUL CITY

[CTabor7333]

yeah no joke

[vatonaught]

sloppy fouls in practice and competition...perfect practice makes perfect performance. Even his 79 ft throw in practice was a sloppy foul...wish I'd been able to do it.

[newtonjav08]

he only fouls on warmups, he puts all his weight forward thats why they are farther, he didnt foul his competition throws, watch closer.

[zelrikai]

these are great clips. He is a great thrower, probly the best, but he has a VERY bad habbit of fouling.

[jaimesandoval1988]

Steroids or not he is the greatest ever. Anyone else can take steroids and will not ever come remotely close to his record.

[bbforumsjx]

I've alway been iffy on the fact of steriods when it comes to Barnes, even if he was roided, I'd give him credit for his unbelievably effortless technique

[genghishan]

he doped.

[Pesto79]

geez thats awesome footage!!!!! these clips must be rare,he was a big kid even in his senior yeat!

[discusdoc]

He was a great, explosive thrower! Young throwers take note: don't get in the habit of fouling in practice. I used to watch Brian Oldfield do that when he was throwing and it cost him some very big throws. Practice staying in the ring!

[70footer]

he is the best ever....you can see from these clips the advancement of technique that allows for more speed and power to be generated...amazing.

[TrackDaddy97]

Wow these are some amazing clips of Randy where did you get these.