to prepare for martin luther king day and better appreciate negro culture I have devoted my whole day into finding the worlds first rap song.
if you add a highly obnoxious base line, an obscene number of subwoofers and a "gangster", or urban redneck, to sing it then all this song needs to put LMFAO or 50-cent to shame is a music video containing an excessive number of loose women in booty shorts.
@hobodreams - you shouldn't hang it on the wall - so it is not a euphemism - but something that makes children giggle, adolescents blush, and adults should understand that it means that thing you got - the thing that's making you ask what he's talking about - if you think it's sex then - "hang it on the wall" - might make you laugh or vomit.
jelly roll (at the time) was a black-slang term for a vagina. he's basically saying "do whatever you want just as long as I get a piece of ass at the end of the day"
jelly roll (at the time) was a black-slang term for a vagina. he's basically saying "do whatever you want just as long as I get a piece of ass at the end of the day"
@emailtheoldies If I'm not mistaken the Jelly Roll is a euphemism for the penis. i.e.. you grab hold and "bite in" and it squirts in your face. the phrase jelly roll is used in many songs. You will see it is used this way. Check out Jelly Roll Morton for example. Just like "Dust My broom" is used for getting sacked off
@Pentagonshark666 absolutely nothing. it just sounds like hes talking about a jelly roll. "my jelly, my roll, say momma wont you let it fall." i dont know the actuall lyrics but thats kinda what it sounds like.
Wow a race related argument on a blues track? New. Food for thought; "if one of us is chained none of us are free" Music IS. That is all. Slavery IS. Blues came from a place of hardship, as does most good music. Its from the soul whether it be one touched with light or darkness. My ancestors were slaves. But so are some of my brothers and sisters who walk the earth today. How does that work??
civil rights has got nothing to do with your you statement, "Charlie Patton made a statement to the slave owners, that he was indeed going to play music." what slave owners you twit? CP was not a slave, there were no slaves, slavery was abolished. and who wasn't allowed to play music back then? moron.
and it WASN'T just recent. african americans were screaming bloody murder about who wrote what, and when, as far back as the 50's and 60's. YOU need to research your fuck head!
@kurt72 think that Charlie would just want you to come here and listen to his music and enjoy it. Not argue about it. No matter who, what, where, or when it may have developed and came from, its good stuff, even almost 100 years later.
Once again, youtube proves to be a great inspiration; i didn't appreciate Mick Taylor till I checked out his youtubes! Checking out Skip James and now Charley Patton on youtube is making me want to explore them thouroughly. I knew I wanted to explore Skip James some more; but, based on my "Best of Charley Patton" cd, I didn't think Charley brought that much to the table; not any more! I'm not refereing to this song actually; i'm talking about all the other songs I've found so far!
@oker59 Didn't think Charlie Patton brought much to the table??? He was the direct inspiration for Robert Johnson, and so many other's! He performed the Blues when he wasn't even allowed to play a guitar. Blues musicians before the 20th century usually played the mandolin. Charlie Patton made a statement to the slave owners, that he was indeed going to play music.
@kurt72 Yes Im glad you noticed that in your history book. However, even though it was said to be abolished, rights were not equally given and haven't been until recent times. Many African American musicians were not given credit for the music they had written, until recently. Perhaps you should research your history a bit more. Just saying'
As you listen, imagine a roomfull of poor cotton pickin black folks dancin and jivin and hootin it up. Cuz that was Charlie's typical audience. From Pandora's "Cub Koda, Rovi
He epitomized the image of a '20s "sport" blues singer: rakish, raffish, easy to provoke, capable of downing massive quantities of food and liquor, a woman on each arm, with a flashy, expensive-looking guitar fitted with a strap and kept in a traveling case by his side, only to be opened up when there was was money ...
Makes you respect Al Wilson and Bob Hite of Canned Heat, among many others, who perseveringly listened to this music 50+ years ago and worked hard to bring it to the ears of new generations. I have to confess, if it weren't for the bands of the 60s who first sought out this music and did it in there own idioms, I would never have been able to go back myself to find those roots and discover great artists like Patton, Robert Johnson, Fred McDowell -- basically our nation's musical heritage.
Love it! Huge fan of old school acoustic Blues. Always looking for someone I may not have heard of before. Does anyone have any suggestions? Be warned, I know of and have heard most. But maybe you know of someone that I do not.
A long time ago somebody told me that the Rolling Stones' Satisfaction's guitar riff was copied from a Patton's recording. Anybody here can confirm? Thx.
@greatbighand Can't confirm, but the structure is a little old school. Keith Richards is big into Robert Johnson and the delta masters, so it's an interesting rumor :)
@Bassist10288 It is also peculiar that Richards could pick it up and the fact getting unnoticed, apparently. What is strange is that the person who gave me the heads up is no fool, even though when he told me I didn't take his news seriously, especially for the reason I gave first. But twenty years ago there was no internet. I'm currently listening to a 3 cd's Patton anthology. Should anything come up I'll be back.
@greatbighand I mean who cares about the riff really. Blues and rock have always been about showing your influences. I was listening to Susie Q the other day, and noticed Howlin' Wolf's "Smokestack Lightnin" in the solo.. Just cool. There are these little nuances throughout music history that show people's influences. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
@Bassist10288 I've gone through the 3 cd's and the only thing which could resemble the "Satisfaction" riff is the obbligato guitar part in "Come Back Corrina". It might have been an inspiration, though I do not consider it, if that was the case, a steal.
With this song you can hear proof Charlie Patton was the first rock & roller. I can imagine this being a proto-Buddy Holly & the Crickets song. Buddy Holly heavily influenced The Beatles, who then went on to influence rock music for generations. In the end it all comes down to this. BTW, the blues > jazz.
"Patton received some direct instruction from Sloan, and played with him for several years. Two of Patton’s later accompanists, Tommy Johnson and Son House, both stated that Patton "dogged every step" of Sloan's.[3]"
Henry Sloan (January 1870 – 13 March 1948?)[1] was an African American musician, one of the earliest figures in the history of Delta Blues. Very little is known for certain about his life, other than he tutored Charlie Patton in the ways of the blues- wikipedia
This song has elememts of white dance music in it with the particular use of seventh chords . It's very strange for the blues, even has a minor chord. It's my daughters favourite song.I think that this, Bollweivel and stone poney are my favs. Jelly Roll is a pretty obvious sexual euphemism. This is the real blues before artless automotons turned the blues into one shitty song palyed OVER and OVER.
@populistherd its vice versa. what you call 'white dance music' is black music that was copied by white country singers so long ago that practically no one has heard the originals
@populistherd ...This is NOT blues...it's more related to minstrelsy, coon songs and pop. Charlie Patton was a songster....a musicaneer....NOT a blues singer...Blues were just a part of where these original recording musicians were coming from. Strangely enough...it took the record buisness to segregate and ghettoize what had been just American music.....
@PeluMaad Are you kidding me? Are you trying to say "Pony Blues" and "Screamin' and Hollerin' The Blues" aren't blues? I think you're correctly pointing out this song isn't a blues, and incorrectly saying Charlie Patton wasn't the king of the delta blues.
@JosephMalicke ...Patton was the first recorded Delta musician and seems to have been a source for many who followed ...but "King of the Delta Blues" is marketing talk. Patton, like almost all "blues singers" had a wide repetoire of all types of songs including blues. John Fahey breaks his recorded work into blues (20), ragtime songs (3), church songs (10), and 4 songs he labels "problematic"
Fahey also quotes Son House as saying Patton did John Hurt type songs in the same style.
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....read something on the blues form and get back to me on how it applies to this song beyond the first verse....please...I've studied this music for about 40 years and I wouldn't apply the term blues singer to anyone before WWII.....
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....Lemon was from Texas but his guitar style wasn't typical for Texas not to mention the delta...He sang blues and church songs and was known for NOT playing dance tunes like "Hang It On the Wall". The blues is a song form with definite characteristics that recent scholarship suggests became formalized at the beginning of the 20th century...around the same time the record industry blew up....The blues are more about form than subject matter...
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....Lemon was from Texas but his guitar style wasn't typical for Texas not to mention the delta...He sang blues and church songs and was known for NOT playing dance tunes like "Hang It On the Wall". The blues is a song form with definite characteristics that recent scholarship suggests became formalized at the beginning of the 20th century...around the same time the record industry blew up....The blues are more about form than subject matter...
@PeluMaad Charley Patton is blues. A lot of music isn't easliy shuffled in to one genre. If Patton, who probably considered himself a blues musician, wasn't singing the blues then Led Zeppelin doesn't play rock, they are a blues and folk band. Why get hung up on the labeling or sticking to a strict song structure?
@kashmir11281 ...In Patton's time, "blues singer" was applied to the female stage performers moreso than the country guys trying to play whatever folks wanted to hear to get paid. The distinctions we make now between black and white musics didn't exist then. Patton played religious tunes for church folks, dance tunes for white and black picnics and parties, and blues on Saturday night for the bootleggers. Anything to keep from working in the fields. Patton was as diverse a musician as Page.
@PeluMaad this is complete b.s. the notion of white and black music in the US goes back hundreds of years to the very first field hollars and spirituals.
@PeluMaad The song has an I IV6 V7 structure. It bounces between I and V7 (F and C7) and then hits what can arguably be called a turnaround with IV6 V7 and then I. You can call the Bb6 a Gm7 if you want but still a ii7 V7 I is still a turnaround used in blues. I haven't studied blues for 40 years but I am gonna say it's close enough.
Of course It should be mentioned that jelly roll means vagina
On another note, I purchased the Fahey collection about Patton, and i notice the quality's not as good as this - bit of a downer considering how I borrowed money to pay for it...
Who cares who's best? Open your ears for fks sakes'. Listen and appreciate without trying to judge or make of "Art and genius" a top forty countdown. Too much radio fckers...ain't no such thing as a "number 1" or "number 3" sound. It's just propaganda to allow stations to charge extra for ads.
The fourth annual Starr-Gennett Music Festival celebrates "Blues and BBQ" September 11, 2010 at the Whitewater Gorge Park (South 1st Street) in Richmond, IN from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. Inducted into the Walk of Fame will be Alberta Hunter, Lonnie Johnson, and the Pace Jubilee Singers. Past inductee Charlie Patton will be honored.
U2,50CENT,Lady Gaga and the whole Simon Cowel Inc...... the music of today the former are the furture of music, not this old,silly crap.........who the fuck wants to listen to shit that makes you Think like Mr Patton.........Humanity is all i can hear in his voice....I wanna hear people shout about- gettin rich or die tryin or...cop! Bitch ,cop!,BITCH MOTHERFUCKER!........now thats music .....more greed more GREED!....this is what we need!...Patton's DEAD,were not.............i think.
I suspect that this song is about sex, specifically the vagina, hence the term "jelly roll", which doesn't refer to a real pastry at all, but rather to the vagina as a source of sweetness and pleasure. Am i right?
@magnusbkdk I have researched it and apparently it it means the ladies downstairs parts. I can see why it could be slang for penis though. I thought it was initially
you can shake it you can break it you can hang it on the wall throw it out the window catch it fore it falls you can break it you can hang it on the wall my jelly my roll sweet mama dont let it fall oh everybody has a jelly roll like min i lives in town and i aint got no brown aha chorus- you can snatch it you can grab it you can break it you can twist any way that i love to get it and i had my right mind since i ill blow this town -chorus
@NZA2 No good sir. he would be more known compared to that SHIT that is not even music, this is talent. I can say my name just as much as mike jones who ever gave that guy a record deal needs to be shot.
so you think all rap music is to be judged by mike jones? i too can pick the worst of any genre as a strawman, doesnt make it any more accurate though.
yeah but he aint so thank the lord furthermore he would not be singing about killing police officers these ppl were law abiding. I like that rap has it's roots in some forms of american music just so that these crazies teens today realize that the past was and is kool,for some reason kids are frightened about things they don't understand what ignorance
bluesmen routinely were incarcerated and legal trouble was also a topic for songs. furthermore, you are incredibly ironic when you chastise kids for being afraid of what they dont understand, then proceed to display your fear of something you dont understand, hip hop.
but you listed one.u cherrypicked your way through that,if the "bluesmen's" music promoted violence towards teen audiences then shame on them, but this was underground music, even in the black communities the parents had control over what the children were exposed and influenced by.
your attempt at finding a contradiction or hypocrisy in order to discredit what I said is ineffective because I do understand the lyrics and song basis I proved it by listing the topic so that is how your comment is wrong. and I did mention rap also.
you act as though prudence is a personality flaw, when did I ever mention sex as a bad thing? you assumed on another topic one of which had never existed within our correspondence, so...um....get a clue lol, wow you like the penis lyric huh, how about whinin boy blues by Jelly Roll Morton, a lil bit more raunchier and better one of my favs, or hows about Peppermint stick by the Elchords 1957, or Don't fuck around with love the blenders 1953 from NYC.
true they should be in prison..patton was so good and this song is amazing
melciorw8 6 days ago
to prepare for martin luther king day and better appreciate negro culture I have devoted my whole day into finding the worlds first rap song.
if you add a highly obnoxious base line, an obscene number of subwoofers and a "gangster", or urban redneck, to sing it then all this song needs to put LMFAO or 50-cent to shame is a music video containing an excessive number of loose women in booty shorts.
pinkhead6857890 1 week ago
turns out i like jelly rolls.
ShimmyDigg 3 weeks ago
jelly roll is a euphemism for a vagina, not penis.
hobodreams 1 month ago
@hobodreams - you shouldn't hang it on the wall - so it is not a euphemism - but something that makes children giggle, adolescents blush, and adults should understand that it means that thing you got - the thing that's making you ask what he's talking about - if you think it's sex then - "hang it on the wall" - might make you laugh or vomit.
StrongHeartLives 3 weeks ago
@hobodreams Not true..."Jelly Roll" Morton supposedly got his name for his bits and pieces.
MegaSubtext 1 week ago
Whoever dislikes this probably listens to Nickelback.
audiostew 1 month ago 3
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jelly roll (at the time) was a black-slang term for a vagina. he's basically saying "do whatever you want just as long as I get a piece of ass at the end of the day"
emailtheoldies 1 month ago
jelly roll (at the time) was a black-slang term for a vagina. he's basically saying "do whatever you want just as long as I get a piece of ass at the end of the day"
emailtheoldies 1 month ago
@emailtheoldies If I'm not mistaken the Jelly Roll is a euphemism for the penis. i.e.. you grab hold and "bite in" and it squirts in your face. the phrase jelly roll is used in many songs. You will see it is used this way. Check out Jelly Roll Morton for example. Just like "Dust My broom" is used for getting sacked off
ShalomYal 1 month ago
@ShalomYal almost all poetry and music is about sex. It's all rockin' n rollin'! happy new year!
emailtheoldies 1 month ago
my jelly roll.
ShimmyDigg 2 months ago
@ShimmyDigg Mr jelly lord is jelly roll morton(ferdinand morton)what do you talk about?
Pentagonshark666 1 month ago
@Pentagonshark666 absolutely nothing. it just sounds like hes talking about a jelly roll. "my jelly, my roll, say momma wont you let it fall." i dont know the actuall lyrics but thats kinda what it sounds like.
ShimmyDigg 1 month ago
F*cking best.truely a great track.mind blowing a true masterpiece.who
dislike this song should be in foderal prison.
Pentagonshark666 3 months ago 8
i thought i knew rock history , but this guy is new to me.
honestbutugly 3 months ago
He was black mixed with some Indian and white.
kickalion 3 months ago
Wow a race related argument on a blues track? New. Food for thought; "if one of us is chained none of us are free" Music IS. That is all. Slavery IS. Blues came from a place of hardship, as does most good music. Its from the soul whether it be one touched with light or darkness. My ancestors were slaves. But so are some of my brothers and sisters who walk the earth today. How does that work??
Blagga0muffin 3 months ago in playlist Blues
fckin eh charley, classic
ImTrickz1 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Charley Patton
To me it's without a doubt one of top 10 songs what ever recorded
and no.1 blues song.a stunning record.
Pentagonshark666 5 months ago 2
civil rights has got nothing to do with your you statement, "Charlie Patton made a statement to the slave owners, that he was indeed going to play music." what slave owners you twit? CP was not a slave, there were no slaves, slavery was abolished. and who wasn't allowed to play music back then? moron.
and it WASN'T just recent. african americans were screaming bloody murder about who wrote what, and when, as far back as the 50's and 60's. YOU need to research your fuck head!
kurt72 5 months ago 2
@kurt72 think that Charlie would just want you to come here and listen to his music and enjoy it. Not argue about it. No matter who, what, where, or when it may have developed and came from, its good stuff, even almost 100 years later.
Harmonator1000 5 months ago
Once again, youtube proves to be a great inspiration; i didn't appreciate Mick Taylor till I checked out his youtubes! Checking out Skip James and now Charley Patton on youtube is making me want to explore them thouroughly. I knew I wanted to explore Skip James some more; but, based on my "Best of Charley Patton" cd, I didn't think Charley brought that much to the table; not any more! I'm not refereing to this song actually; i'm talking about all the other songs I've found so far!
oker59 6 months ago
@oker59 Didn't think Charlie Patton brought much to the table??? He was the direct inspiration for Robert Johnson, and so many other's! He performed the Blues when he wasn't even allowed to play a guitar. Blues musicians before the 20th century usually played the mandolin. Charlie Patton made a statement to the slave owners, that he was indeed going to play music.
Echowa623 5 months ago
@Echowa623 slavery was abolished before he was born. just sayin'.
kurt72 5 months ago
@kurt72 Yes Im glad you noticed that in your history book. However, even though it was said to be abolished, rights were not equally given and haven't been until recent times. Many African American musicians were not given credit for the music they had written, until recently. Perhaps you should research your history a bit more. Just saying'
Echowa623 5 months ago
@Echowa623 What Kurt said. You don't know shit about patton, stop spouting simplistic neoliberal cliches and enjoy the wealth of music, retard
Manusturbo 4 months ago
@Echowa623 ...pre-blues era black musicians played banjo.
PeluMaad 4 months ago
I'm gunna find the 6 who dislike this song and shake and break their neck.
Harmonator1000 6 months ago 24
As you listen, imagine a roomfull of poor cotton pickin black folks dancin and jivin and hootin it up. Cuz that was Charlie's typical audience. From Pandora's "Cub Koda, Rovi
He epitomized the image of a '20s "sport" blues singer: rakish, raffish, easy to provoke, capable of downing massive quantities of food and liquor, a woman on each arm, with a flashy, expensive-looking guitar fitted with a strap and kept in a traveling case by his side, only to be opened up when there was was money ...
sazajac77z 6 months ago 3
Makes you respect Al Wilson and Bob Hite of Canned Heat, among many others, who perseveringly listened to this music 50+ years ago and worked hard to bring it to the ears of new generations. I have to confess, if it weren't for the bands of the 60s who first sought out this music and did it in there own idioms, I would never have been able to go back myself to find those roots and discover great artists like Patton, Robert Johnson, Fred McDowell -- basically our nation's musical heritage.
newaccountdebzbd 7 months ago 3
love it
miryallerdyce 7 months ago
Catchy song, especially for it's time.
ManilaSyndicate 7 months ago
This song is incredible!
SuperHerojuana 7 months ago
I kinda like this... :-)
LadieTiger 8 months ago
You can really shake it and break it and hang it on the wall. I've done it plenty of times. GOOOD TIMES!!!
noblesiner 8 months ago
Love it! Huge fan of old school acoustic Blues. Always looking for someone I may not have heard of before. Does anyone have any suggestions? Be warned, I know of and have heard most. But maybe you know of someone that I do not.
howlinwolf1759 8 months ago
@howlinwolf1759 Furry Lewis and Sleepy John Estes
bbnatedogg 6 months ago
@howlinwolf1759 ...ever heard Louie Lasky? There are 3 cuts in his name plus he plays back up to Big Bill on "C & A Blues".
PeluMaad 4 months ago
dont waste ur time its always haterss
STREETCITYMOB 8 months ago
A great tune, and a big-ass voice.
AnnihilatingAngel 8 months ago
thank you
Terczynski1982 9 months ago
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TheFacelessK 9 months ago
@TheFacelessK You sir... Are a penis of the highest magnitude...
SRVRULES893 9 months ago
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TheFacelessK 9 months ago
@TheFacelessK
ehem perhaps you misunderstood :(
.....You sir... Are a PENIS of the highest magnitude.....
bluesfolkman 8 months ago
A long time ago somebody told me that the Rolling Stones' Satisfaction's guitar riff was copied from a Patton's recording. Anybody here can confirm? Thx.
greatbighand 10 months ago
@greatbighand
"there is nothing new under the sun"
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greatbighand 10 months ago
@greatbighand Can't confirm, but the structure is a little old school. Keith Richards is big into Robert Johnson and the delta masters, so it's an interesting rumor :)
Bassist10288 9 months ago
@Bassist10288 It is also peculiar that Richards could pick it up and the fact getting unnoticed, apparently. What is strange is that the person who gave me the heads up is no fool, even though when he told me I didn't take his news seriously, especially for the reason I gave first. But twenty years ago there was no internet. I'm currently listening to a 3 cd's Patton anthology. Should anything come up I'll be back.
greatbighand 9 months ago
@greatbighand I mean who cares about the riff really. Blues and rock have always been about showing your influences. I was listening to Susie Q the other day, and noticed Howlin' Wolf's "Smokestack Lightnin" in the solo.. Just cool. There are these little nuances throughout music history that show people's influences. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Bassist10288 9 months ago
@Bassist10288 I've gone through the 3 cd's and the only thing which could resemble the "Satisfaction" riff is the obbligato guitar part in "Come Back Corrina". It might have been an inspiration, though I do not consider it, if that was the case, a steal.
greatbighand 9 months ago
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AVOLdesign 11 months ago
5 people broke it!
Gunnercv 11 months ago
I hope everyone here knows jelly roll is pussy, and that automatically makes this song awesome.
ganjaganja879 11 months ago
@ganjaganja879 several things make this song awsome... but the awsomeness of these old blues usually being about vaj never actually wares off
busessuck1 11 months ago
The Ramones should have covered this
ListenToBigFace 11 months ago 4
My Jelly, My Roll.....
TheElissaS 11 months ago
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
dSquirrelz 11 months ago
With this song you can hear proof Charlie Patton was the first rock & roller. I can imagine this being a proto-Buddy Holly & the Crickets song. Buddy Holly heavily influenced The Beatles, who then went on to influence rock music for generations. In the end it all comes down to this. BTW, the blues > jazz.
ladyi7609 1 year ago
@ladyi7609 In your opinion! they are both great in they're both great in their own way.
musicislifecolrane 1 year ago
@ladyi7609 In your opinion. Both genres are great in their own ways.
musicislifecolrane 1 year ago
it was recorded on wax
kickalion 1 year ago
"Patton received some direct instruction from Sloan, and played with him for several years. Two of Patton’s later accompanists, Tommy Johnson and Son House, both stated that Patton "dogged every step" of Sloan's.[3]"
-wikipedia
kbee 1 year ago
Henry Sloan (January 1870 – 13 March 1948?)[1] was an African American musician, one of the earliest figures in the history of Delta Blues. Very little is known for certain about his life, other than he tutored Charlie Patton in the ways of the blues- wikipedia
kbee 1 year ago
Some people sing from their hearts, others from their souls, but Charlie Patton sang from his cojones!
MissGoldenDreams13 1 year ago 2
no me guta ma gusta mas el electric blues
TheErnestocore 1 year ago
Salute these geniuses
TheFunkyKingston 1 year ago
omg i love him great music
juicystunts 1 year ago
this nigga/nigger was one of the pioneers of this blues music. thanks for the upload. :) i love this guys like this kinds.
EyeTalkShit69 1 year ago
my jelly my roll mama don't let it fall...i hear you, man
badmichelle1978 1 year ago 28
ha i love this tune so much
PALUMPALAM 1 year ago 3
Fuckin A.. he facilitated black and white music as his audiences expected and wanted.. as did Robert Johnson and others.. this is still a gem.
jaysun34 1 year ago
This song has elememts of white dance music in it with the particular use of seventh chords . It's very strange for the blues, even has a minor chord. It's my daughters favourite song.I think that this, Bollweivel and stone poney are my favs. Jelly Roll is a pretty obvious sexual euphemism. This is the real blues before artless automotons turned the blues into one shitty song palyed OVER and OVER.
populistherd 1 year ago
@populistherd its vice versa. what you call 'white dance music' is black music that was copied by white country singers so long ago that practically no one has heard the originals
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@populistherd ...This is NOT blues...it's more related to minstrelsy, coon songs and pop. Charlie Patton was a songster....a musicaneer....NOT a blues singer...Blues were just a part of where these original recording musicians were coming from. Strangely enough...it took the record buisness to segregate and ghettoize what had been just American music.....
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad Are you kidding me? Are you trying to say "Pony Blues" and "Screamin' and Hollerin' The Blues" aren't blues? I think you're correctly pointing out this song isn't a blues, and incorrectly saying Charlie Patton wasn't the king of the delta blues.
JosephMalicke 1 year ago
@JosephMalicke ...Patton was the first recorded Delta musician and seems to have been a source for many who followed ...but "King of the Delta Blues" is marketing talk. Patton, like almost all "blues singers" had a wide repetoire of all types of songs including blues. John Fahey breaks his recorded work into blues (20), ragtime songs (3), church songs (10), and 4 songs he labels "problematic"
Fahey also quotes Son House as saying Patton did John Hurt type songs in the same style.
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad delta blues bro
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 1 year ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....read something on the blues form and get back to me on how it applies to this song beyond the first verse....please...
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....read something on the blues form and get back to me on how it applies to this song beyond the first verse....please...I've studied this music for about 40 years and I wouldn't apply the term blues singer to anyone before WWII.....
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad what about delta blues man... what about blind lemon jeffersons song got the blues from 1925, i wonder what he was singing about? hmm
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 1 year ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....Lemon was from Texas but his guitar style wasn't typical for Texas not to mention the delta...He sang blues and church songs and was known for NOT playing dance tunes like "Hang It On the Wall". The blues is a song form with definite characteristics that recent scholarship suggests became formalized at the beginning of the 20th century...around the same time the record industry blew up....The blues are more about form than subject matter...
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....Lemon was from Texas but his guitar style wasn't typical for Texas not to mention the delta...He sang blues and church songs and was known for NOT playing dance tunes like "Hang It On the Wall". The blues is a song form with definite characteristics that recent scholarship suggests became formalized at the beginning of the 20th century...around the same time the record industry blew up....The blues are more about form than subject matter...
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad Charley Patton is blues. A lot of music isn't easliy shuffled in to one genre. If Patton, who probably considered himself a blues musician, wasn't singing the blues then Led Zeppelin doesn't play rock, they are a blues and folk band. Why get hung up on the labeling or sticking to a strict song structure?
kashmir11281 8 months ago
@kashmir11281 ...In Patton's time, "blues singer" was applied to the female stage performers moreso than the country guys trying to play whatever folks wanted to hear to get paid. The distinctions we make now between black and white musics didn't exist then. Patton played religious tunes for church folks, dance tunes for white and black picnics and parties, and blues on Saturday night for the bootleggers. Anything to keep from working in the fields. Patton was as diverse a musician as Page.
PeluMaad 8 months ago
@PeluMaad this is complete b.s. the notion of white and black music in the US goes back hundreds of years to the very first field hollars and spirituals.
Diomedes22 7 months ago
@PeluMaad if not beer than Page.
joeboyjones 7 months ago
@PeluMaad Comparing Patton to Page (the biggest thief in music history) is an insult to Patton and all the delta blues artists.
Diomedes22 4 months ago
@PeluMaad - Hmmm.......I think I'm just going to call it blues :/
theblitz00 2 months ago
@PeluMaad The song has an I IV6 V7 structure. It bounces between I and V7 (F and C7) and then hits what can arguably be called a turnaround with IV6 V7 and then I. You can call the Bb6 a Gm7 if you want but still a ii7 V7 I is still a turnaround used in blues. I haven't studied blues for 40 years but I am gonna say it's close enough.
kashmir11281 8 months ago
@kashmir11281 ...good point about the turn around.
PeluMaad 8 months ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR .....what does "delta" mean to you...???
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad its called delta cuz its from the delta region in the states bro
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 1 year ago
@TheBestGuitarSoloEVR ....it's from the Yazoo river delta region in Mississippi....google Weenie Campbell....READ!
PeluMaad 1 year ago
@PeluMaad k <3
TheBestGuitarSoloEVR 1 year ago
@PeluMaad It means death to a northern liberal like me.......screw the rednecks and racists.....cant imagine life as charley patton way back
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago
daaaa da da da da daaaaaa,....da dada da da daaaaaaaa... bob dylan....daaaa da da da da daaaaaa.....
darrkem 1 year ago
@darrkem haha wtf??
NoRosesForMe 1 year ago
Great great great great.. great.
PorroFirst 1 year ago
Its kinda......sexual....if ya think about it. Not many people realize this song is......kinda 'hot'. Hee hee! He was so amazin.
NoRosesForMe 1 year ago
In New Orleans Jazz this song became Weary Blues
klikonojazz 1 year ago
Of course It should be mentioned that jelly roll means vagina
On another note, I purchased the Fahey collection about Patton, and i notice the quality's not as good as this - bit of a downer considering how I borrowed money to pay for it...
...at least it looks great on my bookshelf
busessuck1 1 year ago
My deep respect for all these old Bluesmen. Brilliant!
mathieuremi 1 year ago
there should be a dirty south booty shakin video to this. lil patton ya'll!
moccasin11 1 year ago 3
love it!!!!!
PALUMPALAM 1 year ago
Who cares who's best? Open your ears for fks sakes'. Listen and appreciate without trying to judge or make of "Art and genius" a top forty countdown. Too much radio fckers...ain't no such thing as a "number 1" or "number 3" sound. It's just propaganda to allow stations to charge extra for ads.
webcityguy 1 year ago 105
@webcityguy You said a mouth full their and i couldn't have said it better myself...
njshoreboy 11 months ago
@webcityguy amen!
pickinstone 8 months ago
@webcityguy amen
horbergaren 8 months ago
is everyone on here nuts your on here talkin about whos the best like rj or whoever else, you idiots your listening to the best
sheilapatrick1 1 year ago 2
the birth of blues!
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The American King Of The Blues and Rythm. He's is amazing!
boxingin 1 year ago
I think Charlie's singing sounds alot like an American Indian's Chant...
boxingin 1 year ago
Skip James - Chaley Patton - Blind Willie Johnson - Robert Johnson - Leadbelly - ...The Abyss.............
edmundsampo 1 year ago
Nice R. Crumb drawing
RosieODonnellizaCow 1 year ago 3
The Father Of The Blues...!
boxingin 1 year ago
The fourth annual Starr-Gennett Music Festival celebrates "Blues and BBQ" September 11, 2010 at the Whitewater Gorge Park (South 1st Street) in Richmond, IN from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. Inducted into the Walk of Fame will be Alberta Hunter, Lonnie Johnson, and the Pace Jubilee Singers. Past inductee Charlie Patton will be honored.
StarrGennett 1 year ago
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U2,50CENT,Lady Gaga and the whole Simon Cowel Inc...... the music of today the former are the furture of music, not this old,silly crap.........who the fuck wants to listen to shit that makes you Think like Mr Patton.........Humanity is all i can hear in his voice....I wanna hear people shout about- gettin rich or die tryin or...cop! Bitch ,cop!,BITCH MOTHERFUCKER!........now thats music .....more greed more GREED!....this is what we need!...Patton's DEAD,were not.............i think.
PhilosophyLeckie3 1 year ago
@PhilosophyLeckie3 I love the sarcasm, just wish you could post your humor somewhere else.
FlatulenceFox 1 year ago
@FlatulenceFox
Well said
nickdabsta 1 year ago
Nice! I got to get me some nice sweet jelly roll.
nicodagger 1 year ago
I suspect that this song is about sex, specifically the vagina, hence the term "jelly roll", which doesn't refer to a real pastry at all, but rather to the vagina as a source of sweetness and pleasure. Am i right?
nicodagger 1 year ago
@nicodagger I think you are. Jelly roll is local slang for 'vagina' or 'sex'
Jasonmcintyre2007 1 year ago
@Jasonmcintyre2007 don't you think it's the slanf for penis?
magnusbkdk 1 year ago
@magnusbkdk I have researched it and apparently it it means the ladies downstairs parts. I can see why it could be slang for penis though. I thought it was initially
Jasonmcintyre2007 1 year ago
You can snatch it, you can grab it, you can break it,
you can twist it, any way that I love to get it
I, had my right mind since I, I blowed this town
My jelly, my roll, sweet mama, don't let it fall
ganjaganja879 1 year ago
What a creative and soulful man he was.
LadieTeardrop20 1 year ago
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NIE LUBIŁ CIEMNIEJSZYCH OD SIEBIE.
szninkiel12 1 year ago
NIE LUBIŁ CIEMNIEJSZYCH OD SIEBIE.
szninkiel12 1 year ago
@1stonelamb: Yeah, baby, yeah! ( Any guy who can play the guitar like that is my kind of guy!)
MissGoldenDreams13 1 year ago 2
patton support no matter what-my son loves his last name i love my last name-i might be from a mix breed but nobody does like the pattons in indeed
doziereyes 1 year ago
I kinda wish I'd been around to make out with him. :\ (Someone capture a wormhole, already.)
1stonelamb 1 year ago
Remebering Charlie Patton today. Born somewhere between April 1887 & 1891 died April 28, 1934.
rocktenniscat 1 year ago 4
hahha nice song!
Henneth 1 year ago 2
Great tune. Canned Heat made a great great cover of this song on their Future Blues album
foutupourfoutu 1 year ago
this is one of my favourite Patton numbers. its such a joy to listen to.
Jasonmcintyre2007 1 year ago
Nevermind I just figured it out. Keep on truckin y'all.
WhatFuckingUsernameI 1 year ago
Who did the portrait?
WhatFuckingUsernameI 1 year ago
@WhatFuckingUsernameI Robert Crumb, the underground comic artist
sketchyman 1 year ago 4
This is catchy! lol
AUSROTTENY2K 1 year ago 26
@AUSROTTENY2K this one's actually not that bad... I've heard way worse, Tommy Johnson for example...
pat976 1 year ago
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@AUSROTTENY2K "This is catchy! lol"
No Laughing. >:P Just JK just Lovin
den0fevil 1 year ago
this sounds like really really odlschool hiphop
oh2b16again 1 year ago 4
all blues is....
codehendrix 1 year ago 3
AHHHHAAAAAAAA
oh2b16again 1 year ago 2
I love Alan Wilson and Canned Heat´s version but it´s cool to hear the original version!
Bukfan1 2 years ago
Alan "BLIND OWL" Wilson of CANNED HEAT recorded this song and Ive Posted the Official CANNED HEAT Video.
Don't Forget To Boogie
HAAKIE48 2 years ago
the "racial divide" is a crafted diversion.
Its keeps our minds occupied by our own fear when we should be focused on what's actually going on.
the keystone for any strategic management is to have those "under your domain" all focused on what you want them to focus on.
The strings are pulled much easier this way. It also neutralizes the public's greatest potential weapon: unity.
basic multi-forked strategy.
we are our own worst enemies.
phuq1deology 2 years ago
@phuq1deology
Management Parasites
IAINCHRISTIE 2 years ago
I like to call them memes.
But we can create and distribute our own memes...if we want to.
phuq1deology 1 year ago
Ah the Master,deserves the credit for being the father of the delta blues,what a performer!
Cheers from down under
A Patton Fan thru & thru
gratefultiger 2 years ago
you can shake it you can break it you can hang it on the wall throw it out the window catch it fore it falls you can break it you can hang it on the wall my jelly my roll sweet mama dont let it fall oh everybody has a jelly roll like min i lives in town and i aint got no brown aha chorus- you can snatch it you can grab it you can break it you can twist any way that i love to get it and i had my right mind since i ill blow this town -chorus
torrellmnblues 2 years ago
I 'aint got nobody here but me, and myself , I ...stay blue all the time, ahh when the sun goes down,
I know i've been to town, I have walked around, I thought of leaving town, I have fooled around...
lostintheblues 2 years ago
So fun to play along with all of Charlie's stuff.
Houdini116 2 years ago 2
This song is awesome!!! I wuld tap my feet and do a little jig to this all day if I actually had the song.
BigCanOfBeans 2 years ago
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if charlie were alive today he'd be one of those rappers you despise.
NZA2 2 years ago
@NZA2 No good sir. he would be more known compared to that SHIT that is not even music, this is talent. I can say my name just as much as mike jones who ever gave that guy a record deal needs to be shot.
pinback91 2 years ago
so you think all rap music is to be judged by mike jones? i too can pick the worst of any genre as a strawman, doesnt make it any more accurate though.
NZA2 2 years ago
if charley were alive today he'd be 118!!! how would he be a rapper haha
snubbs741 2 years ago
yeah but he aint so thank the lord furthermore he would not be singing about killing police officers these ppl were law abiding. I like that rap has it's roots in some forms of american music just so that these crazies teens today realize that the past was and is kool,for some reason kids are frightened about things they don't understand what ignorance
JRussoBuffaloNY 2 years ago
bluesmen routinely were incarcerated and legal trouble was also a topic for songs. furthermore, you are incredibly ironic when you chastise kids for being afraid of what they dont understand, then proceed to display your fear of something you dont understand, hip hop.
NZA2 2 years ago
but you listed one.u cherrypicked your way through that,if the "bluesmen's" music promoted violence towards teen audiences then shame on them, but this was underground music, even in the black communities the parents had control over what the children were exposed and influenced by.
JRussoBuffaloNY 2 years ago
your attempt at finding a contradiction or hypocrisy in order to discredit what I said is ineffective because I do understand the lyrics and song basis I proved it by listing the topic so that is how your comment is wrong. and I did mention rap also.
JRussoBuffaloNY 2 years ago
@JRussoBuffaloNY
you keep arguing like some prude while listening to a song that compares charlie's penis to a jelly roll. get a clue.
NZA2 2 years ago
you act as though prudence is a personality flaw, when did I ever mention sex as a bad thing? you assumed on another topic one of which had never existed within our correspondence, so...um....get a clue lol, wow you like the penis lyric huh, how about whinin boy blues by Jelly Roll Morton, a lil bit more raunchier and better one of my favs, or hows about Peppermint stick by the Elchords 1957, or Don't fuck around with love the blenders 1953 from NYC.
JRussoBuffaloNY 2 years ago
@JRussoBuffaloNY
LOL, have you ever heard of a juke joint? what fantasy land are you living in?
NZA2 2 years ago
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