Can we see the same presentation for the Antarctic please. And how about some historical perspective. There are reports of low Arctic ice in the 1800's and 1930's. The satellite record only started in 1979 - which happened to coincide with a warming trend caused by the grand solar maximum from 60s-90's and the warm phase of the 30-year pacific decadal oscillation. We need another 30 years to see the full cycle.
@MMGWsceptic You will have to ask NASA for that. However if you are trying to make a comaprison between the North and south poles you will have to compare Greenland to Antartica not Arctic sea ice to Antartica. And please stop repeating rubbish from lobbyists, there is no "grand solar maximum" and the PDO simply shifts heat from one part of the pacific to another, it is not a source of heat that raises global temps. Talking about such imaginary causes just makes you look foolish.
"The Rise & Fall Of Open Solar Flux During the Current Grand Solar Maximum"
Lockwood et al 2009
PDO moves heat from the ocean depths up to the surface and into the atmosphere. The surface temps drive atmospheric temps.: A hot bath will warm the air in your bathroom - but a hot bathroom will never warm your bath water.
@MMGWsceptic Look up PDO again, it's not what you think it is. During a "warm" PDO the western Pacific heats up and the east cools down, during a "cool" PDO the opposite happens. This is what the "O" in PDO means. It's basically large scale turbulance that moves heat from one place to another, it does not add any heat to the system as a whole.
The 11yr sun cycle is well known, try looking up Solar variation and PDO on WP for the basic knowledge you desprately need.
Can we see the same presentation for the Antarctic please. And how about some historical perspective. There are reports of low Arctic ice in the 1800's and 1930's. The satellite record only started in 1979 - which happened to coincide with a warming trend caused by the grand solar maximum from 60s-90's and the warm phase of the 30-year pacific decadal oscillation. We need another 30 years to see the full cycle.
MMGWsceptic 1 year ago
@MMGWsceptic You will have to ask NASA for that. However if you are trying to make a comaprison between the North and south poles you will have to compare Greenland to Antartica not Arctic sea ice to Antartica. And please stop repeating rubbish from lobbyists, there is no "grand solar maximum" and the PDO simply shifts heat from one part of the pacific to another, it is not a source of heat that raises global temps. Talking about such imaginary causes just makes you look foolish.
Tapecutter59 1 year ago
@Tapecutter59 Try this:
"The Rise & Fall Of Open Solar Flux During the Current Grand Solar Maximum"
Lockwood et al 2009
PDO moves heat from the ocean depths up to the surface and into the atmosphere. The surface temps drive atmospheric temps.: A hot bath will warm the air in your bathroom - but a hot bathroom will never warm your bath water.
MMGWsceptic 1 year ago
@MMGWsceptic Look up PDO again, it's not what you think it is. During a "warm" PDO the western Pacific heats up and the east cools down, during a "cool" PDO the opposite happens. This is what the "O" in PDO means. It's basically large scale turbulance that moves heat from one place to another, it does not add any heat to the system as a whole.
The 11yr sun cycle is well known, try looking up Solar variation and PDO on WP for the basic knowledge you desprately need.
Tapecutter59 1 year ago