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  • Really enjoy these videos.......... but opinions are just like arseholes, we all have one. Bottom line: have something, anything. A .22 in the pocket is better than a .45 on the dresser.

  • do I have to stand like that :-( kinda takes the fun out of self defense...

  • Sooch, I really enjoyed watching this video. Thanks for the shooting tips. I agree of being in the shots to the face mindset. I also want to share that I ran a call on a gun shot wound (Paramedic here) and a man was shot by a 25 acp below his underarm somehow, on his side, he was in shock and he later died in the ambulance. (no exit wound) I agree with shot placement, that was definitely a luck shot. Thanks for the Great videos and God Bless America!!

  • very informative video. i agree with most of what you said. personally, insteal of thinking double or tripple shot groupings, at the ranges a church gun would be used i would empty into the head. and if i did not have a spare magazine proceed to beat the purp with my empty gun. just a note, it looks more like you are shooting in a isocelese or modified weaver stance, which is what i prefer.

  • Wrong any gun would kill if shot placement

  • With these small calibre rounds, would it be wise in winter NOT to use hollow points? I am concerned a leather jacket might cause hollow points to open prematurely.

  • it only takes 1 foot pound to cut human skin its verry easy to kill a human compared to other animals. most 22LR put out 107ft lbs of enrgy the 32acp is 134ft lbs of energy the 22mag puts out 315ft lbs of power all these calibers are enough to kill a human. but factor in drug use & adreniline it coud take few min for the human to relize ive been shot! at that point blood lose & internal damage or just the shock of being hit kills. the diffrence in larger calibers bigger bullet more dead stop PWR

  • Guns are stupid

  • @Taziod liberal....lol

  • @ZombieMasterEd25 I'm a liberal with 16 guns. His problem isn't being a liberal, it's being silly. I keep a .45 in my nightstand but any gun is better than no gun if the SHTF and in self defense the shooter is more important than the gun

  • @nycinwv nightstand gun is diffrent, i kep a loaded 357 on my nightstand with golden saber

  • 45.ACP =)

  • Two shots to the torso with a mouse gun WILL stop an attack.  I can prove this... break into my house and I will prove it to you.

  • i only use rocket louncher or ak47 and it need only one shot to torso to stop enyone XD

  • Hand to hand get real most attackers use a weapon of some sort why? Because most of them are too pussy to fight, so shoot the motherfuckers.

  • what if he kicks you in the balls the grabs the gun and shoots you what do you do duhh you die i find up close encounters you use hand to hand combat

  • If I had to take my gun out, the person I was defending myself from would die....Just saying

  • crumpled weaver is funny

  • For all of the negative things people say about a little gun; a .22 in your pocket is better than a .45 sitting at home because it was too bulky for the clothing you're wearing.

  • Good info

  • Thank you for your well intentioned time.look into MagSafe ammo,it is in another league for defensive ammo,nothing compares.a smart bad guy who is that close will know to attack you not the gun.in your crouched?stance nothing is protecting you from being punched in the face and knocked out.keep strong hand on gun and week hand to keep distance or block a punch.dead is dead shot placement is everything. Be safe

  • Awesome demo of the crumpled weaver, Sootch.

  • It seems a large knife would be more effective at that distance.

  • I don't have t listen to more than a minutes to know this guy is dumb. His logic is terrible. A one in four chance of stopping an attacker with one shot DOES NOT mean that it takes four shots to stop him. The first bullet goes in, and if that doesn't work, then a second bullet will have probably a 100% chance of taking him down. If the attacker keeps going with two bullets in his gut, he's probably satan incarnate. This guy never studied probability in school, lol.

  • Don't buy the .25 Expanding Points. The box I received showed some quality control issues from Winchester. About 70% of the bullets had lousy crimps and you could twist the bullets like you can with cheap .22lr ammo. I had one expand to .44'', but the penetration was terrible. The rest never expanded and still had lousy penetration. You want a FMJ bullet. If your going to carry a .25 automatic why limit yourself to near-22lr weights?

  • i shot a 200 pound hog in the head with 1 .22 full metal jacket and it died so i think it would stop a fat white guy no prob.

  • dude ur mad dumb, get shot with any of those guns ur not gonna be fine. if im robin a house and get shot, if im not dead or dying ima try and get the fuk outta there

  • Scoth, self defense if i had to with a .22....I would be using Velociters, no questions asked.........40grain bullet 1430fps......Better than a Stinger IMO

  • I never considered that before. Thanks a lot for the video.

  • my dad was shot in the head with a .25 it run up his skull under the skin out the back or the head near the crown.

    he went to work the next day.

  • Then shoot him 4 times

  • @SMILEYsaysDIE on the rare occasion I carry a .25 or .22 I would just unload the whole gun and run the other direction. I like to carry .32 over the .25 and .22 and I mostly carry a .380 or 9mm.

  • i saw you should carry a p99

  • @ctminarchist Those will kill people.

  • A .25 Safety Slug to the throat is nothing to smile over....actually it will be quite hard to smile.

  • i just came up with a fun name for the crumpled weaver stance; the T-rex stance.

  • I read the title 7 times as Moose Gun, lol

  • Back in my youth I was visiting a girlfriend when someone was breaking in the side of her house. I said to my girlfriend "do you have a gun?" She had an old .22 pump rifle with no ammo. I told her to call the police (no 911 back then) and I took the rifle and pointed it at the intruder and pumped an empty gun and told him "you gonna die now!" I bet he is still running......(<{:-)

  • stick to gun reviews, dont talk about something you've never personally been involved in, training where all you do is shoot at paper targets does not qualify. 1,000,000 courses and instructors out there who teach self defense who teach nothing but crap.

  • @sgtleroym fuck off, this guy knows waayyy more than you do, and you have the videos to prove what a failure you are, i think you could take a piece of your own advice about talking crap about something you dont understand, practice is better than no practice, how do you think anyone learns different scenarios the first place? cause they definitely dont go right into a situation without first practicing it

  • @ericsyutubeaccount its obvious you have no experience either. You obviously felt threatened because you fall into the same category he does, paper target master. If you honestly think shooting at paper targets will even come near preparing you for a gun fight then maybe you should consider another profession. I have seen a few institutes who know exactly what they are talking about and train how they fight. If you think finding flaws in my cell phone videos will help you then have fun. dumbass

  • @sgtleroym his amount of views vs your amount of views: says it all, now explain exactly how you would prepare for combat without using inanimate objects to practice on first

  • @ericsyutubeaccount yah ok. Poor guy im sorry u got offended cuz u have no experience

  • @sgtleroym never said anything about my experience, but it looks to me like you're unable to answer my question, so who's full of shit now?

  • @ericsyutubeaccount well its like this little man, if you have to ask questions like that then it becomes obvious you have no experience. Your trying to find a flaw in me and my cell phone videos which says alot about yourself. By your response and use of profanity i am willing to bet you make under 50000 a year, your overweight and your angry because the highlight of your life was qualifying at the range. Go do a few deployments then come argue

  • @sgtleroym see told you you dont know what youre talking about, you cant even answer a question, so you resort to this? pathetic, in my experience, when someone talks endlessly about their credentials and about other peoples, its because they arent successful themselves and are insecure because of it, thats why i dont talk about my experiences, because unlike you i have nothing to be inscure about, btw, youre a joke, you give people reason to mock us, but i know not all of us are like you

  • @ericsyutubeaccount wow i find you funny. I display a little bit of accurate interpretation. And you get so offended you begin to rant and babble and display on a forum that you belong to something special. I am sorry if i hurt your little feelers because i contest people who talk about what if scenarios and use paper targets. But if it helps your ego then have fun finding flaws in me. Poor guy.

  • @sgtleroym so you admit it that you have to use training techniques like the one shown in this video to practice?

  • @sgtleroym comment continued: im expecting you to come back at me with another comment revealing how insecure you are by attempting to patronize me, i already know youre a puss, i can tell by how soft your hands are, so im going to save us some time, all i want to hear from you, is how you train without using an inanimate object, if you cant answer that one question, then youve proven yourself full of shit and youve completely embarassed yourself

  • @ericsyutubeaccount thank your for the small chuckle. I found it funny you even try to exploit my hands. I tell you what kid, just so you dont feel so bad, you can have the last word. Thats what most sociopaths want right? Take care

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  • @sgtleroym i guess not all soldiers know their stuff after all

  • @ericsyutubeaccount Actually, they don't. I saw tough, cool guys who thought war was a game of cowboys and Indians wet their pants the first time the viet cong fired on them. They talked cool while we were just training but there they were, laying in the dirt, pissing their pants saying, Holy shit, holy shit. Sometimes it took them a couple minutes to get in the game and start returning fire. By then some of their comrades were wounded or dead. Until it hits the fan, you don't know shit.

  • @donteverlietome .............here we go. Another poser.

  • @sgtleroym you got seriously owned

  • @MrJohnnyg17 oh. Getting owned on youtube, oh no my my life is in trouble now... Dumbass

  • @sgtleroym Wow you are one pathetic excuse for a soldier.

  • @ehandkz not a soldier. Dumbass.

  • @ericsyutubeaccount completely huh. I will invite you on any given day to pick up a weapon and sends some rounds my way. I'll demonstrate to you what a man is made of....boy.

  • @sgtleroym wow this was from forever ago, no idea what youre babbling about, but that comment about having a shoot-off was truly sad, just shows what a coward you are, big man behind a computer screen.

  • @ericsyutubeaccount why because your a pussy who hides behind a keyboard, or because you know absolutely nothing or a mix of both?

  • @sgtleroym because youve already proven that you are all talk and no action

  • @ericsyutubeaccount ummm ok.

  • @sgtleroym You know I took time to research you and track you down. I had to laugh because you really dont know shit and have never done shit. Fatass. On top of it tall you took the time to create a new account just to make it seem like people agree with you. I honestly enjoy the satisfaction of knowing who you are and knowing you have absolutely no grounds to speak about combat or gun fights. ha ha

  • 99% of the time, if you shoot someone with a .22, they will stop, no matter what size, its scary getting shot, and it hurts enough for you to back off

  • would it defend against a mouse?

  • Only in america are "mouse guns" frowned upon. Everywhere else people know any caliber will kill you if shot in the head, heart or lungs. If you can't aim its pointless to have a gun!

  • head shot bitch...

  • just shoot em in the face... that usually does the trick

  • Back in the 80's & 90's the only guns afforded in low-income neighborhoods were 25 cal, 32cal, 380cal. And all of these thugs, gangsters, where getting killed by these guns. I knew plenty of people that died from a 25 cal to the head. I know this NOT by science or by some review, I know this because I've seen people die from this & lived through it when younger in New York & Connecticut, low income neighborhoods

  • Guy goes up to u not knowing why the girl got scared and because of this stupid video the girl reach for her gun and shot him in the neck guy falls and die turns out he was looking for direction ain't life a bitch like that

  • @400866l if he sees she is scared maybe he should turn the hell around!!! Dumb move on that idiots part.

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  • Why a shot to the head thats just stupid you dont want to kill an atcker the want to stop him shoot for the legs if its is cqb ise a knife

  • @traceradam if you shoot for the legs you are assuming that you did not believe you could use lethal force.

    But using a gun is lethal force. So you are pretty much fucked because you will go in for misuse of your weapon.

    Also, CQB? What the hell? You get attacked, you grab a knife? A knife is NOT a defensive weapon, it's hard as hell to defend from an assault with a knife. Basically you have to pray "he" doesn't have a gun and runs or that you can hit his arms and legs when "he" attacks.

  • Good video! Thanks!

  • Much ado about nothing. I hate it when people use the relative differences between calibers to claim a particular weapon is "not an effective defense weapon". Just ask yourself how likely *you* would be to attack someone who pulled a .25 pistol on you. As with any handgun, shot placement trumps caliber every time. Also, the "crumpled stance" is more nonsense. The fact is that a small handgun is far less likely to be taken from me than a large one, as I will have a much better grip.

  • Do you mean? if a attacker is 20 meter away. would the 22. be useless?? or would it have the same effect? like a 9mm or what eva

  • The crumpled weaver stance made you look like a T-Rex shooting a pistol xD.

  • Plenty of deer and other game have been killed with .22s.

  • This guy doesn't know statistics. 25% chance of killing someone doesn't mean four shots kills, idiot. What else doesn't he know?

  • horse shit, the next time you volunteer to get shot with a 22, 25, or 32 cal you call me

  • A .25 caliber is a great weapon to carry, if you're not carrying a gun.

  • We use to kill dear with .22lr one to the head and they drop like a tone of shit

  • u don't u injure don't a bunch gun savvy killers and take anything as a threat.... just stop hell from 2 - 3 use a butterfly blade

  • i think if i was shot at all id be turning tail

  • Well, a .22 would not kill in one shot, but why does everyone think you must kill for self-defense? If you shoot someone in the chest with a .22, the shock and pain would most likely make them think again. They live, and you live. Win-win?

  • People who keeps saying 25 acp, 22lr, etc aren't worth crap, well then get shot by it and then come back and tell me.

  • @kvitka075 Especially with certain types of ammo loaded (Stingers, for example); not to mention, it's common semi autos come with 10+ cap mags.

    That's going to hurt in close quarters.

  • @kvitka075 My uncle who's a cop where I am from, we were on this topic about 22lr being a shitty round and he told me when he was in the academy they had recruits watch a vid that was recorded from a police cruiser that showed a cop getting shot with a 22 pistol, he was wearing a bulletproof vest but he was hit in the arm long story short the bullet ricocheted through his armpit and went into his heart killing him instantly. Bullet is a bullet no matter how small it can still kill you.

  • Great vid I just recently purchased a 380 NAA Guardian for pocket carry and as an ankle holster gun. I am very pleased with it so far.

  • @kvitka075 yeah, especially if shot in the head!

  • I carry a 25 acp most of the summer in my right rear pocket in a uncle mikes pocket holster everyone tells me I'm only going to piss of an attacker with a 25 acp great vid thanks for posting.

  • That's not quite the way ballistics work. First shot may only have 25% chance of stopping an attacker physically but the stopping power goes up exponentially with each successive shot. Also once the average attacker is shot once, statistics show they won't want a second dose.

  • yeah, throwing a ham sandwich at the attacker would do more harm

  • Please stop what you are doing.

  • note to self: don't mug this guy

  • Your target is set really low.  Your attacker must be really short if you set your target that low.

  • you mean YOU want ME to use a gun TO KILL the attacker WHIT A WEAPON... YOU ARE NUTS!

  • Don, which of the two would you carry more out of a semi auto pistol; a .22 or .25? I may want to up it to a .32 (I really need a small compact gun I can keep on target while in tight work clothes) but am afraid of rim lock. Is this a real issue when carrying?

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  • you guys are so lucky you live in the states cause in canada if you get caught with any gun on you. you go to jail so thats why most people that use self defence weapons in canada carry batons,tazers or allot of time knifes which to me i would be more scared of a knife then a gun for some reason

  • This guy knows his stuff. Mouse guns are totally effective when used correctly and confidently. In a self defense situation when someone is 2 feet away from it's a simple proposition- you shoot for the neck, head, and heart!

  • You also have to realize that most of the time, the mere shock of actually getting shot in the gut and having no idea what sized bullet shot you will scare attackers off or at least lay them out so they stop the attack. PLUS who wants to kill anyone anyway... the most important thing is to STOP the attack... not fucking kill anyone. ANd you could face some weird ass criminal charges depending on how the attack went down. I'd EASILY rather have a .22 for self defense.

  • @freezazoid You, sir, are a smart guy. I agree 100%

  • @magnus3318 Well I'm glad you see it my way.... It seems like every video I watch on .22's or whatever it's some hick saying "i personally wouldn't use this for self defense.... it doesn't have stopping power". YOU sir are smart. :)

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  • I'd feel bad to shoot anyone on the head, and I've been tutored to cause the least harm o.o

  • Aren't shotshells bad for pistols?

  • yur so right about what bullet to use for the j 22..i have a jiminez and it loves cci minimags

  • shoot em N the face LOL

  • i always use .22's and .380's because i wont get fucked in court over a murder charge if i kill some1 in self defense and if i just shoot 1 and it injures them so i can run i wont be arrested for attempted murder cuz its a .22

  • Your a VERY good man Scootch ! Thank you so much for your knowledge,wisdom.

    Your the kind of person a liberal would like.Your not braggadocios.You a hummble manwho loves his country. Thanx,Demmylowther (Howard)

  • With these small guns, find an ammo that your gun likes and carry it.

    The can be VERY finicky with ammo.

  • Hey there sootch00, do you agree or disagree with this statement? ".25 ACP needs to be full metal jacket to maintain enough penetration. A jacketed hollow point will not penetrate or expand big enough to make any difference anyway."

  • @billiam77

    I will be carry magsafe's in my .25 as soon as I get them.

    Those things are like little hand grenades, a neck shot from a magsafe will do more damage then either a FMJ or a JHP although penetration is minimal.

  • @Migs4000

    Yeah, if you're lucky or a good enough shot to hit an attacker in the neck or face. What about a body shot? Would .25acp with jhp or magsafe get through a leather jacket? I think with .25 acp that penetration is key, and for that you need fmj.

  • @billiam77

    Probably, I always carry a spare mag of FMJ for my .25 just in case.

  • hello sir.may i ask what gun your holding at the very begining of the video?i just bought my first gun which is a phoenix arms hp22 but i want the smallest gun possible besides a derringer. thanks i subscribed also!!

  • can i play counter strike with this?how do i connect it to a pc?

  • Man, you are great! You rank up there with nutnfancy and hickok45.

  • My concealed carry pistol is actually the beretta 21 bobcat in .22 long rifle, and with the remington viper ammo, and 3 or 4 hits to the throat on an attacker is the area I practice shooting at.

  • All I know is a .25 in the pocket is a better weopon is a better weopon than a .45 at home.

  • These so call "mouse guns" are perfect(my opinion only)if you live in small units in apartment buildings in urban cities.

  • Thats what she said haha jk lol

  • can i buy the silver revolver one for £90.00+ please. i am a huge fan and i want it for self defence not illegal reasons. please email me at stephen_1610@hotmail.co.uk to discuss prices and a possible deal.

    thabk you.

  • what kinda fagget ass redneck carries a gun

  • @davidalrcn1 Im gonna laugh when someone comes trying to rob you and you dont have a gun. So is that fagget ass redneck.

  • Make sure not to try this with any firearm that has a comensator or any other system that distributes pressure upwards... Or say goodbye to your nosehairs.

  • Luckily, they carry more than one bullet, so the whole "25%" single-shot lethality = useless is a little harsh.

  • Personally I carry RPG for self defense, It's very compact and is a great concealed weapon

  • sootch i just gotta tell you, you have awesome videos and you just tell it like it is no bullshit! a little gun is better than none and if someone means to take your life shoot him in the face haha it doesnt get more no nonsence than that.

  • my god, americans.. were fucking doomed..

    two shots to the torso, one to the head ;)

  • I've got a new one for ya.

    I got some of those little Hornady .25 XTP's...cutest little hollow points you'll ever see. I'm filling the cavity with red dyed silicone with the same ideology behind Hornady's Critical Defense Ammo. Just for fun, should be interesting.

  • Yeah I saw this one video when a super drunk big man was shot a few times by a police officer with a 9mm yet he still over powered him. Sometimes you need the stopping power...

  • My question is where did you get you statistics that only 1/4 of the shots fired from a mouse gun stop an attacker? It seems a bit skewed from what I'd expect.

  • Absolutely spot on technique from being a survivor with my tomcat-32. hold it close it, only point out to aim at farther than 15 ft targets using the sights. Also consider the expanding frangible rounds with nytrillium tungsten for complete devastation at the target and stop the slug from going through the walls.

  • Not to break balls, but those targets *were* set up in front of a hill, right? You practice excellent safety checks for weapons being loaded, I would hate to think those rounds were indiscriminately flying downrange lol.

  • you could should it towards the torso and let the bullets rikashay of his ribs

  • I have to agree. I knew I guy once that was shot seven times in the chest while on the street. He went to the hospital of course. And tis happen several years before I met him.

  • very informative & well made vid i also like the mouse guns got an ol j-22 thanks for the heads up on the cci mini-mags. personally i was cleaning it after every 2 mags and it shot jacketed rounds fairly well with out failures

  • you say that with 22lr or 25acp you must shoot to head. i think that is stupid to use hollow point ammo for head shoot. bullet can expand and stop before he comes to brain

  • i bet a shot in the nuts would stop em too

  • well fuck id aim for the stomach

  • I don't think I'd use a gun to kill a mouse. Better to get a cat.

  • I would guess that most people who choose to carry or own a weapon for home defense are in fact reluctant to use them affectively.

    Rule 1. IF YOU OWN A WEAPON FOR SELF DEFENCE BE PREPARED TO KILL THE OFFENDER ATTACKER.

  • shot shells are a bad idea because of all the stupid court cases. example (a man tries to rob this guys house and falls through the roof on a kitchen knife, sues the home owner and wins). If you use shot shell you could maim him and now hes got a court case. Its just better to shoot to kill; who are they going to believe dead man tell no tails.

  • go for an .308 mouse gun.

  • I have yet to find any real scientific evidence that proves mouse guns are 'ineffective'. Also if were to sit on a jury and have to decide to lock up someone after a typical self defense encounter, but the man had been shot in the head (a small target, with a less accurate pistol) I don't think I would be as receptive to his argument then if he had been shot where the Army (and my CCW instructor) tells everyone to shoot for 'center of mass'.

  • Nice presentation. Would .22 shotshell fired at the face be able to stop an attacker?

  • @pveg65 It would stop me! Lol! I've had a lot of guys thinking about a "Non-Lethal" option using shotshells. Maybe backed up with bullets..Thanks~

  • @sootch00 would you stop if someone shot you with a .25? i would.

  • @sootch00

    These guns are not effective for self defense when shooting the torso? Really......wow, in some situations you do have time to fire more than once and i'm aware of people getting killed in the streets weekly by 22s with torso shots a good thing to remember is ANY gun can kill.

  • @sootch00

    you should look into a glock 29 if you want a very very powerful concealed carry pistol. 10mm auto is a beast of a cartridge.

  • @pveg65

    Forget shotshells they are a terrible idea.

  • @pveg65 They would work, but they barely cycle in an automatic.

  • 0:33 , to guarantee stoppage, but not always 4 hits. Just sayin'.

  • Looking for a pocket gun and need your advice.  Kel-Tec P32, NAA Guardian .32, and Beretta Tomcats... what's the pro & con of each? Wish you could do a review on "Taurus MODEL 4510 .45/.410 (2.5" CHAMBER) ULTRA-LITE WITH FIBER OPTIC SIGHT".

  • Should i get a AK-47 for self defense? hehe

  • @BleachDubbedHD y not a uzi?

    

  • @BleachDubbedHD 155 howitzer should do it ;)

  • Please be cautious with any jennings, bryco, or davis small caliber arms. I believe there are suitable arms in the lowest price bracket, however the three I listed have terrible efficiency issues that myself and others in my community have experienced!

    Great Video(s), I am new to your channel but have enjoyed the good sense - non derogatory nature of your information and delivery!

  • I just recently purchased a Kel-tec p32. Hope it turns out great, havent shot it yet... nice mouse guns good sir. cool stuff.

  • i only have a mouse gun for defense

  • The 22 LR stops those aligators you place that round in the right place. My uncle use to hunt only with the 22LR. And you are right about close in encounters I every time someone has pulled a hand gun on me they were close enough to have pulled a knife. The crumplead weaver stance is what has been recommended we learn for home self defense. @ home I can carry any size weapon I choose so I choose shotgun. When in the car I have a mouse NA22LR not the best but better than just a knife

  • wouldn't using one of these be an unnecessary risk? i've got an american arms .22 mini revolver and a bersa .22 pistol and I can tell you I'd rather give away my money than having to use it against an armed agressor. You can get a .32 almost as portable but much more reliable (i've got an FN in this caliber).

  • @Jormungandr69 First don't look like a person with money it is about loosing your life some of these thugs do this shit for the thrill. We now have teens running about thinking if they film themselves beating an old man or a homeless person they will be famous. What they don't know is some of those old men carry mouse guns and will use them to kill varmit like them. I might have a few years left but they are my years to use not theirs to take. PersonalSelfDefense22LR Lubys Columbine McD SD Ca

  • @cdltpx I can get 5 shots less than 5 seconds after that I can break out a knife or take them out with my cane. If I am walking better that day the cane is my first choice it is most lethal in the right hands. If it is a righteous robbery you can avoid them they look for the easy $ your job don't look like $. Park in well lit place don't be on cell fon all the damm time watch where you are and who is there see thugs punks avoid them have a plan keep distance if they see PSD22 they see death.