HHO - The main key is the Dolce (Soft) Ferrite core. It constitutes a "Virtual Quasi crystal", since the sintering separates the iron atoms - so they can change polarity rapidly (unlike magnitite, or ferrous iron). Thus you escape the DOMAIN BORDER CONFLICTS that have caused heat-waste for generations. (Wireless Power Downloaded also signals end of nation-states - born of "iron-age weaponry). Take a look at my new one "UFO Alien Leak - FS10a, for more tech info. Cheers!
Something else this design does I suspect is reduce the back magnetization of the coil As the magnet approaches the coil a magnetic field is induced in the coil that opposes the approaching magnet & reverses when the magnet leaves the coil & attracts it backwards. In this design there is less winding nearest the magnet so less back magnetic force being induced in the coil.
It may interest you to know that I will be releasing the Arduino sketch created for me by Hydertec under the GNU GPL this weekend. Rendering a video to announce the release as I write this. Keep up the great work.
Stopping the cogging effect is crucial, but we know how to do that with a small neo per core.
Using magnetite for the core is cool and it's easy to make your own cores with powdered magnetite and a bonding agent - plus it's simple to align the core material as it cures with a set of small neo's. I'll be using this same technique to make some cores for a bi-toroid transformer.
I do not understand how you "Align" the magnetite core... You say a "pair of NEO magnets". If I want my coils to fire north by the way i wrap the wire around the core, then I would place a magnet at each end with the "North" in the direction of the core to align the magnetite as it will cure in the core, so the wraps and the core are all north direction.
Your explanation is fundamentally wrong. You have to go back to pick-up coil basics. Less turns equals higher output current and lower output voltage. More turns equals lower output current and higher output voltage. So if you reduce the number of turns (and wire) you get higher output current from the coil. A single turn of wire will give you the maximum output current, but very low output voltage.
2nd: Also, there is a fundamental issue that is a "strange" aspect of this design. The moment you put a high permeability core through the the center of the coil it renders the geometry of the windings of the coil almost insignificant. The only thing that counts anymore is the number of turns if you want the same output characteristics. You can do the test: Your three-layer coil with X turns and the core vs. the same thing but X turns ordinary winding. They will behave almost the same.
@User2718218 Lets say we use a small core, any type, and a very thick wall form. Do you think you will have the same current as with a large core thin wall form, the answer is no. You need to understand the "Square of the Distance Law", it applies to light, sound, magnetic fields, and so on. Now if you have core and making a transformer, that's different, the core is energized about equal down the whole length by the winding. We are talking about a core energized by a magnet at one end.........
@hhoforvolts Well here is the rationale: 99.9% of the flux from the passing magnet will travel through the core. The wire is wrapped around the core in the form of a coil. So since all of the flux is going through the core, it doesn't matter if you have a basic winding or a three-layer winding. Either type of winding will see the same changing magnetic flux passing through the core. So, the only thing that matters is the number of turns circling the core. That determines EMF and current.
@User2718218 No you will not have 99.9% going down the core. To prove this to you get a ferrite rod 6" long. Put a magnet on one end and another on the other end, it doesn't matter if it's N. or S. it will attach. If you what you said was true, you would get a repel if you placed a N. on both ends.
I won'treply any further posts on this matter, hope you understand.
@hhoforvolts There is a simple explanation for that. You have observed that the attraction is much stronger when the magnet polarities line up "n-s-rod-n-s" vs. "n-s-rod-s-n" correct?
When the attraction to the rod is much weaker, "n-s-rod-s-n" here is where you finally come across a Bloch wall. If the magnets are of equal strength the net flux from each magnet turns around half way down the rod and goes back to the magnet. Each magnet is attracted to a half-rod.
@hhoforvolts You get a square of the distance type law when you are pure air. When you introduce a core you short-circuit that process within the core itself. The core is a conduit for magnet flux with almost no resistance to the flow of flux. Now if the core is very very long yes you start to see a drop-off in flux. But for a short length of core within a "highly resistive" air environment there is an almost constant amount of flux flowing through the cross-sectional area of the core.
@User2718218 .......so at that end, the magnet end, the core is at max. level and drops down as you go to the rear of the core, and it drops the square of the distance traveled. So that's why Muller developed this pattern.
@hhoforvolts I can see how you are visualizing that but permit me to correct you. Simple setup: A magnet lined up with a core and they are 1/2 inch apart. No movement, keep it simple. You are saying that there is more magnetization in the part of the core closer to the magnet and drops down the further away. It's partially true but here is a surprise: The magnetic flux density at the two ends of the core is almost the same. The drop-off is very minor, not like you are thinking at all.
2nd: I will explain why the drop-off in magnetic flux density is so low. Here is the "magnetic circuit": Imagine the magnet is like a voltage source, say 10 volts. The air gap between the magnet and the close end of the core is like a 1K ohm resistor. The core itself is like a 1 ohm resistor. The air after the far end of the core is like a 10K ohm resistor to ground. Do you know the basics of calculating voltage drops? In this circuit there is almost no voltage drop in the core "resistor."
3rd: The fact that there is almost no voltage drop in the core "resistor" means that the resistor is almost at an equipotential. The 1-ohm resistor is almost like a short circuit compared to the "air resistors." In this model the dropping voltage is akin to the loss of magnetic flux density. The core is like a "short circuit" for magnetic flux and the flux flows though it like it's a clear pipe with no restrictions. So the flux is almost the same throughout the core.
@hhoforvolts I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that in the sense that if you want current, reduce the number of turns. Certainly you can put coils in series for more voltage provided all of the coils are generating additive voltage that's in phase. i.e.; each separate pick-up coil has a magnet passing by it at the same time.
About my earlier point, high-current-low-voltage or low-current-high-voltage, for each magnet pass you will get the same energy out, but with different IV properties.
@User2718218 Well I am talking about using the shortest wire to get the max as you call it IV. With our coil design, we have all of the winding on one layer but have to deal with the "Square of the Distance Law going down the core. We have solved this not with something we invented, but found in a 11 page document found on the O.U. thread.
@scootermundo If you want to know what he used, download "NeoGen" from YouTube. The rule applies reguardless of what gauge of wire is used, it's your d choice based on your current you want.
HHO - The main key is the Dolce (Soft) Ferrite core. It constitutes a "Virtual Quasi crystal", since the sintering separates the iron atoms - so they can change polarity rapidly (unlike magnitite, or ferrous iron). Thus you escape the DOMAIN BORDER CONFLICTS that have caused heat-waste for generations. (Wireless Power Downloaded also signals end of nation-states - born of "iron-age weaponry). Take a look at my new one "UFO Alien Leak - FS10a, for more tech info. Cheers!
PhotonDrive 4 months ago
Very, very interesting,
the common thing with this field is always a pyramid,Tesla even used pyramid shaped wound coils(are coils the same as inductors?).
Thanks Richard, keep at it!
helderpow 5 months ago
Something else this design does I suspect is reduce the back magnetization of the coil As the magnet approaches the coil a magnetic field is induced in the coil that opposes the approaching magnet & reverses when the magnet leaves the coil & attracts it backwards. In this design there is less winding nearest the magnet so less back magnetic force being induced in the coil.
altgenesis123 6 months ago
@altgenesis123 Good thinking.
Richard
hhoforvolts 6 months ago
The very proof of Russellian Science. Thanks!
77GSlinger 6 months ago
Thank you Sir....For your time and trouble to make this Video.....I subscribed added you to my Favorites & Playlist ....Tec
tectalabyss 6 months ago
It may interest you to know that I will be releasing the Arduino sketch created for me by Hydertec under the GNU GPL this weekend. Rendering a video to announce the release as I write this. Keep up the great work.
ZeroFossilFuel 7 months ago
@ZeroFossilFuel Great I will be looking forward to it.
Thanks again,
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
you nailed it, nice video!
good luck
UrCoffeeTastesToasty 7 months ago
Thank you Richard.
Stopping the cogging effect is crucial, but we know how to do that with a small neo per core.
Using magnetite for the core is cool and it's easy to make your own cores with powdered magnetite and a bonding agent - plus it's simple to align the core material as it cures with a set of small neo's. I'll be using this same technique to make some cores for a bi-toroid transformer.
Peace, and thank you again.
Mike...
mikepowers420 7 months ago
I do not understand how you "Align" the magnetite core... You say a "pair of NEO magnets". If I want my coils to fire north by the way i wrap the wire around the core, then I would place a magnet at each end with the "North" in the direction of the core to align the magnetite as it will cure in the core, so the wraps and the core are all north direction.
alannowod 1 month ago
Thanks for putting that together and sharing what you can. Maybe this will help some of us get a selfrunner and begin the changing of the world.
Peace
rawbush
Rawbush 7 months ago
Your explanation is fundamentally wrong. You have to go back to pick-up coil basics. Less turns equals higher output current and lower output voltage. More turns equals lower output current and higher output voltage. So if you reduce the number of turns (and wire) you get higher output current from the coil. A single turn of wire will give you the maximum output current, but very low output voltage.
User2718218 7 months ago
2nd: Also, there is a fundamental issue that is a "strange" aspect of this design. The moment you put a high permeability core through the the center of the coil it renders the geometry of the windings of the coil almost insignificant. The only thing that counts anymore is the number of turns if you want the same output characteristics. You can do the test: Your three-layer coil with X turns and the core vs. the same thing but X turns ordinary winding. They will behave almost the same.
User2718218 7 months ago
@User2718218 Lets say we use a small core, any type, and a very thick wall form. Do you think you will have the same current as with a large core thin wall form, the answer is no. You need to understand the "Square of the Distance Law", it applies to light, sound, magnetic fields, and so on. Now if you have core and making a transformer, that's different, the core is energized about equal down the whole length by the winding. We are talking about a core energized by a magnet at one end.........
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
@hhoforvolts Well here is the rationale: 99.9% of the flux from the passing magnet will travel through the core. The wire is wrapped around the core in the form of a coil. So since all of the flux is going through the core, it doesn't matter if you have a basic winding or a three-layer winding. Either type of winding will see the same changing magnetic flux passing through the core. So, the only thing that matters is the number of turns circling the core. That determines EMF and current.
User2718218 7 months ago
@User2718218 No you will not have 99.9% going down the core. To prove this to you get a ferrite rod 6" long. Put a magnet on one end and another on the other end, it doesn't matter if it's N. or S. it will attach. If you what you said was true, you would get a repel if you placed a N. on both ends.
I won'treply any further posts on this matter, hope you understand.
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
@hhoforvolts There is a simple explanation for that. You have observed that the attraction is much stronger when the magnet polarities line up "n-s-rod-n-s" vs. "n-s-rod-s-n" correct?
When the attraction to the rod is much weaker, "n-s-rod-s-n" here is where you finally come across a Bloch wall. If the magnets are of equal strength the net flux from each magnet turns around half way down the rod and goes back to the magnet. Each magnet is attracted to a half-rod.
User2718218 7 months ago
@hhoforvolts You get a square of the distance type law when you are pure air. When you introduce a core you short-circuit that process within the core itself. The core is a conduit for magnet flux with almost no resistance to the flow of flux. Now if the core is very very long yes you start to see a drop-off in flux. But for a short length of core within a "highly resistive" air environment there is an almost constant amount of flux flowing through the cross-sectional area of the core.
User2718218 7 months ago
@User2718218 .......so at that end, the magnet end, the core is at max. level and drops down as you go to the rear of the core, and it drops the square of the distance traveled. So that's why Muller developed this pattern.
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
@hhoforvolts I can see how you are visualizing that but permit me to correct you. Simple setup: A magnet lined up with a core and they are 1/2 inch apart. No movement, keep it simple. You are saying that there is more magnetization in the part of the core closer to the magnet and drops down the further away. It's partially true but here is a surprise: The magnetic flux density at the two ends of the core is almost the same. The drop-off is very minor, not like you are thinking at all.
User2718218 7 months ago
2nd: I will explain why the drop-off in magnetic flux density is so low. Here is the "magnetic circuit": Imagine the magnet is like a voltage source, say 10 volts. The air gap between the magnet and the close end of the core is like a 1K ohm resistor. The core itself is like a 1 ohm resistor. The air after the far end of the core is like a 10K ohm resistor to ground. Do you know the basics of calculating voltage drops? In this circuit there is almost no voltage drop in the core "resistor."
User2718218 7 months ago
3rd: The fact that there is almost no voltage drop in the core "resistor" means that the resistor is almost at an equipotential. The 1-ohm resistor is almost like a short circuit compared to the "air resistors." In this model the dropping voltage is akin to the loss of magnetic flux density. The core is like a "short circuit" for magnetic flux and the flux flows though it like it's a clear pipe with no restrictions. So the flux is almost the same throughout the core.
User2718218 7 months ago
@User2718218 You didn't listen, it's current, IT'S CURRENT, so you series the coils for the voltage
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
@hhoforvolts I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that in the sense that if you want current, reduce the number of turns. Certainly you can put coils in series for more voltage provided all of the coils are generating additive voltage that's in phase. i.e.; each separate pick-up coil has a magnet passing by it at the same time.
About my earlier point, high-current-low-voltage or low-current-high-voltage, for each magnet pass you will get the same energy out, but with different IV properties.
User2718218 7 months ago
@User2718218 Well I am talking about using the shortest wire to get the max as you call it IV. With our coil design, we have all of the winding on one layer but have to deal with the "Square of the Distance Law going down the core. We have solved this not with something we invented, but found in a 11 page document found on the O.U. thread.
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago
what size gauge?
scootermundo 7 months ago
@scootermundo If you want to know what he used, download "NeoGen" from YouTube. The rule applies reguardless of what gauge of wire is used, it's your d choice based on your current you want.
Richard
hhoforvolts 7 months ago