@DeadFishFactory Do you actually think politicians are that dumb? Politicians play with your mind, and their goal is to disarm every citizen so that they could arm themselves and better control people. They want a totalitarian state!
what is the point of following these stupid laws. if you are in a restaurant and a criminal starts shooting people. i would much rather kill him, save everybody and go to court. or we can all just line up like the jews in front of the nazis and wait to be shot. after all, the law in Germany didnt allow guns for jews. who lived? the ones that kept there guns. i dont give a damn what the law is. i want to live and i have the right.
@conservthestate Thanks to the 2nd Amendment, DC v. Heller, and McDonald v. Chicago, you have the individual right to keep and bear arms. However, both Heller and McDonald were 5-4 decisions, meaning a 2 justice shift on the high court and we could find ourselves "gun free" by law like Nazi Germany, Mao's China, and Stalin's USSR. The banning of private gun ownership will precede totalitarian law.
@BloodofPatriots well, its sad to say that its actually only 1 switch that is needed to change this country into another control state. but you just gotta hold on to your guns and wait it out. but by no means should anyone EVER give away there guns, i dont care what law the nazis make.
There's no way to make guns illegal, as criminals will still find ways to get them. You just have to deal with it, and stop the the moron who tries to shoot people up. You don't do that by banning guns.
in my opinion you should just half to get your damn criminal record checked before getting a firearm licence so then criminals will not get to own guns.
That is how it works right now. Every time I buy a weapon I have a background check ran on me though a database maintained by the FBI. And it is not just me, every single person in the USA who buys a weapon has this done.
@dynamiteproduction12 That's how it is. However, it's wishful thinking that just because you are required a background check to legally purchase a gun means that no criminals will have guns.Criminals buy from gun traffickers or straw dealers.
What you're saying is like saying that making drugs illegal would mean that no one would be using drugs.
@DeadFishFactory if they do get guns illigally the cops would probably know if they saw them and they will be caught, you do make a good point but im not saying that if that happened there would be no illegal guns whatsoever but it would be alot better for the responsible people. but if the law comes to banning guns completely there willl be idiots who still get them no matter what
You know what else we should ban? Cars that go over 80 miles per hour. I mean, the maximum speed limit in America is 80 miles per hour, so why should we allow people to have cars that can exceed that? They will obviously use it for illegal purposes. Besides, do you know how many kids die every year because they get ahold of their parents car? THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!
I'm sorry if you like cars, but maybe you should get a hobby that isn't dangerous.
I know of ONE event where a man tried to rob a gun store with a loaded pistol. When he declared he was robbing the store over a dozen armed citizens, including one police officer, shot the robber dead. The robber was the only person who died and no one was injuried.
'mass shootings' are not the issue, they are rare events that you can do little about. escalation of minor conflicts into gunfights IS the issue, and 'gun free zones' in schools at least have done a lot to cut those down.
Anyone else here old enough to recall a time before "gun free zones" when the term school shooting was not a part of everyday vocabulary? Funny how school shootings are a bigger problem than they were before "gun free zones"
I remember reading something where a man in china went on a killing spree in a classroom or children, killed 12 children I think and the teacher. What did he use? Take a guess guys. A gun! NO, wrong, he used a knife.
So any argument saying that guns will reduce crime and deaths is only a fantacy, criminal/crazy will just move on to the next best thing.
Quite a bit of shootings and gun related murders are committed with guns that were/are obtained legally, you know? And many a crazy/criminal obtain CWP's... legally... and then kill a lot of people with their concealed weapons.
Don't know why any law abiding, acting only in self defense, "normal" citizen would need an assault rifle either, as the word "assault" is somewhat contrary to the phrase "self defense."
@bpa619 What I ment to say, what are you trying to prove? That's a given that people take advantage of the system, but you can't keep the sane, law abiding person to protecting him/herself from what ever implement they choose? You have to remember, if it isn't the gun, then it'll be the next best thing. And rapists don't need a gun to rape, but hell, the person they were raping sure could have prevented it w/ one.
... what the fuck are you talking about? So if I'm being verbally assaulted, blackmailed, extorted, or even physically assaulted with fists, I should be able to shoot a bazooka (for instance) at the crazy, non law abiding citizen, as that's my chosen "implement"?
What? Never in the history of the United States has a life sentence or death penalty been given to a rapist (where the victim was over the age of 13). Why should someone be able to kill someone else when being raped?
@bpa619 Why would anyone want to kill someone who is trying to rape someone? We habe different wave lenghts here. Where I come from that is called "sexual assault" and usually it doesnt end with that, it goes on to murder afterwords.
Seems like you live in la la land.
When you have a gun and you're trying to deffend yourself from another, it's called "personal deffence".
Yes... we habe different wave lenghts here. You're talking about absurd hypotheticals, and I'm talking about objective reality and law.
Pointing a gun at someone isn't going to "defend" anything from anything. Shooting someone in both their eyes will. That's the point. I don't understand what you're saying. Are you arguing about the semantics of "self defense"? Or are you saying owning any "arm" is what defends lawful citizens from criminals?
@bpa619 Also on the "assault" note. "Assault" is a word tacked on to firearms to give it a name to make it seem like it's not useful for self protection by Anti-gun advocates. The only time "assault" is ever used by military or gun manufactures is for a Select fire (full auto by design) that uses a intermediate cartridge (like 7.62x39 or 5.56x45) which are generally illegal for normal civillian use.
You can assault anyone using your fists, but should we outlaw all fists?
"Assault" is a word tacked on to rifles that are refered to, known as, and actually labeled, "assault rifles."
There is absolutely no need for anyone to own an AK-47 or M-16. Automatic, high powered firearms provide no more protection than the smallest caliber single shot pistol.
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FUCKing GOD DAMNIT everyone is so stupid they even argue against themselves. It's fucking ridiculous.
Either nuclear warheads should be legal or nothing should.
@bpa619 Ok, I'll humor you. Imagine that you're on a farm and you're family is couped up in the cellar but you have multiple thugs that know that you have food/water, but not only that, they want to have some fun w/ you wife and daughter after they're done w/ you. You think a pistol is going to be the best thing you have?
In Oakland riots there a man that had to defend his property from looters and he did that with a semi auto rifle.
What?! Why in the fuck would "multiple thugs" ever come to a farm?! What in the fuck... where do you come from? You actually believe in this shit? You're talking about a quasi dystopian future, and I'm talking about how assault rifles only kill people, and "defend" nothing.
And what anok 0t n WHAT?! Every single rifle on that "Wiki, assault rifle," is (now) legal to own by anyone who chooses to go through the proper procedures to own it. What in the fuck are you talking about, ever?!
@bpa619 Uh wha? I thought you're done already. Dude, you're not going to convince me. Go fly a kite or something. I'm not going to waste my time w/ you.
@bpa619 ALso, who the hell owns full auto firearms? Generally people don't own that. I think you got your laws turned around.
You can't legally obtain a full auto rifle w/o a class III liscence which is usually reserved for law enforcment, military, and companies transporting a lot of money.
I've only found the need for full out in an SMG for close range purposes, but that's me, I have to think about the worse possible scenerio, and I can't own one anyway.
Stupidity and ignorance get people killed. Ignorance is the greatest evil. If we taught firearm responsibility and armed the populace, there wouldn't be any one for criminals to criminalize. BAN IGNORANCE!!
@DiegoValadez1771 Poeple murder people, a gun is only a impliment, like a knife or a rock. Don't confuse inanimate objects with those who have minds. If there were no guns in the world at all, murder would be commited with knifes, rocks, bows and arrows, and even the firsts...oh wait, most murder are commited with the knife or the fist.....so what is your argument?
where did ANYONE state that they would want all high school students carrying guns? On a side note, why cant you simply state your opinion instead of resorting to name calling and cursing?
"where did ANYONE state that they would want all high school students carrying guns?"
Letting all students have the right to carry guns does not imply they would want ALL students to carry guns. Just that they want school students to have access to it.
Students and Terrorists.
You, however, don't represent them because your a disgrace to gun rights advocates.
Your missing the point that is being made...the point is not that we would want armed students IN high school...the point is that having a gun free zone doesnt work in keeping guns out....also how am i a disgrace to gun rights activists?
What did i twist? You stated that "Letting every high school student carry guns around is not a plausible option you fucking terrorist-loving NRA morons." To which i simply posed the question as to who stated that they wanted all high school students carrying?
If you can't discern between LETTING ALL students carry and WANTING ALL students to carry, then it should be no mystery to anyone else why I called you a disgrace.
actually there are GUN FREE ZONES. schools are just ONE example of them. many federal buildings, such as court houses and etc, are GUN FREE ZONES. some states even give the option to owners to prohibit firearms in their establishment and create their own GUN FREE ZONE.
i dont think anyone is saying to let every high school student carry a gun. however, if you have a teacher who is licensed to carry outside this gun free school zone, why not let him carry inside the school as well?
Is Penn complaining about me restricting his right to carry a gun on MY property??
No. He's specifically complaining about the Gun Free School Zone Act.
And instead of showing Bush Sr(who actually signed the fucking bill), he shows Clinton and Gore to intentionally mislead because Penn is a coward that has blocked me from posting facts on his Youtube videos because he hates free speech.
@JakDerrida ok. if you want to make YOUR house a gun free zone then ok. that's your decision.
i'm not sure how you can compare those. rape and murder laws are written as definitions. it establishes what rape and murder is exactly. i'm not sure how you think those laws some how prevent the rape/murder themselves.
the gun free zone is a direct prevention of guns in those areas and if a criminal is already going to murder people, i am pretty sure an imaginary line is not going to stop him
"i'm not sure how you can compare those. rape and murder laws are written as definitions."
Wow.. I'm sorry to tear down your black and white worldview but rape is defined differently in different states differently in other countries. Statutory rape is as young as 12 in some countries. And in some places it consists of not informing the partner that you're not wearing protection.
Murder has different degrees and some say abortion or assisted suicide is no different.
@JakDerrida yes and like you said some places define it differently but they're still definitions. those are all created to define what is and what is not. is it working? yes. we can look at a definition and interpret it and see how it applies to various situations.
this gun free school zone act was created to prevent gun violence in schools. is it working? no. people still walk onto school grounds and start shooting.
like i said i'm not really sure how you can compare the two.
"this gun free school zone act was created to prevent gun violence in schools. is it working? no. people still walk onto school grounds and start shooting."
Murder laws were created to prevent murder. is it working? no. people still murder.
The two are comparable because you've done absolutely nothing to differentiate them except claim that violations of the gun free school zone act are not well defined.
The bill is only vague to you because you have not read any of it.
@JakDerrida I belevie that we should start up open hanging again and see if the crime rate goes down.It would save money and people would be scared to commit a crime. I don't like that they try to keep it secret either. Do it in the middle of the town,but don't do it in front of little kids.I would probably set like an age limit like10 or so.
@JakDerrida Provide me some sources that support that the gun free school zone act actually reduced school shootings, all evidence I've seen says the opposite is true.
"actually there are GUN FREE ZONES. schools are just ONE example of them. many federal buildings, such as court houses and etc, are GUN FREE ZONES"
While guns may be prohibited in these places, they are not legally regarded as "GUN FREE ZONES" under the Gun Free School Zone Act.
Find me a single web site where the exact phrase "Gun Free Zones" can be found other than NRA affiliated web sites attempting to vilify the Gun Free School Zone Act by taking the "school" part out.
u don't have no gun free zones in america, that's impossible when you can buy ammo and arms the next state over and no passport control between states, u are incapable of creating a gun free zone in a country that allows private gun ownership, but of course im just talking nonsense guns dont kill people people kill people, maybe so but guns make it very very easy
@lousaffire GUN FREE ZONE = SAFETY FREE ZONE don't the morons passing bills realize someone bent on mass murder ignore and actually welcome a gun free zone? makes as much sense as a lock on a screen door and is about as effective
@whatukno The reason we are able to "Keep and bear arms," is in order to be able to resist an oppressive government!! Therefore since THEY have thirty round mags for THEIR rifles, WE should have thirty round mags for OURS!!! If YOU don't want one, fine, but DON'T tell ME that I can't have one!!!
@whytbear1 Yes Sir. I like guns, I own guns, does that make me a bad person? No, but your actions do. I would never hurt anyone, yet people want to steal my guns from me. I want to protect myself, and my family. Is that statement bad? I don't think so. Why do all of these gun grabbers exist. Simple answer, government sponsored media.
Guns are fine, but what actually pisses me off is pro gun nuts. I'm good with guns, I have a few, but you don't see me jizzing all over a picture of Thomas Jefferson when people talk about reasonable gun control laws.
CCW laws? I am for em, I want people to be able to legally carry around their guns. I think it's a good idea.
30 round clips? Why? Why do we need fucking 30 round clips? If you can't hit your target with the first round, the other 29 probably won't do you much good either.
@JAROSLAVAGINA Do you know what the difference is? The 3, 10 round clips take time to load. When you have instructions that you can find on YouTube about bump firing a semi auto thus basically full auto firing off a whole clip in seconds, maybe rational gun owners, those people who are reasonable, can see that you don't need a 30 round clip.
@JAROSLAVAGINA I know it's not as fast as just having all 30 rounds in one clip. Or are you that fucking fast that you can empty one clip, drop it, reload the next clip chamber a round and start firing again?
Oh, for the love of fuck--they're NOT "clips", they're called MAGAZINES. Why have ten round "clips"? I can carry ten 30 round "clips" or I can carry 30 ten round "clips". Such a restriction is stupid.
@TenebraearumParvulus The difference is reload time, you know, giving innocent bystandards a chance in hell of getting out of the way of some damned madman while he's reloading.
There is no real sane logical need for a fucking 30 round Magazine, none, it's just the pro gun (kill em all and let god sort em out) crowd that think that they need this shit.
I hunt, I own guns, and I for the life of me have no idea why anyone would need that many bullets other than to kill a person.
Yeah, and what good would letting them move out of the way do? In a place like a school or a mall, there are only so many places they can hide. You know what else? I could MAKE my own 30 round magazines if I wanted to. All I need is the right tools; for someone who's a locksmith, gunsmith, etc. make a 30rd mag is no sweat.
@TenebraearumParvulus Ok so, you're just fine with people getting gunned down with no hope of getting out of the line of fire? Really? This is what it sounds like you are saying to me. That it's perfectly fine for women and children to get blown away because YOU think that it's perfectly ok and reasonable to have a 30 round magazine.
It's great to think there are such caring thoughtful people in the world.
Oh for fucks sake, enough of your bleeding heart bullshit. Tell me, what good would banning hi capacity mags do? JACKSHIT. I could take three 10 round mags, do a few simple adjustments, weld them together, and TADA! 30 ROUND MAG! I've done it before, it's easy.
By banning something that's easy to make, you create a DEMAND; when there's a demand, criminals will BUY; when criminals buy that's MORE MONEY FLOWING IN THE CRIMINAL MARKET. You simply create MORE crime and nothing more.
@TenebraearumParvulus When you come back with an intelligent and reasonable argument let me know, otherwise just let it go.
Shit, I like guns, I think that every person who doesn't have a felony should have one, but you don't see me splooging all over a picture of Thomas Jefferson because of stupid shit like this.
"When you come back with an intelligent and reasonable argument let me know"
And yet you don't explain HOW my argument is unintelligent and unreasonable. You don't address my argument AT ALL in your comment. You're a dipshit, brah.
@whatukno1975 So ya don't need a 30 round clip? Ask the Korean store owners who successfully defended their life and property during the LA riots when the police would go in to arrest the looters.
@CSATexan I can think of a very fucking good reason, so that potential victims might have the fucking chance to get the hell out of the line of fire while the gun crazed madman reloads. Think that might be a damn good reason?
But gun nuts are happy about the 6 people killed in Arizona, they are happy that Giffords was shot through the head. They think that such a tragedy proves that 30 round mags work!
@CSATexan Again, if you can't do the job with the first round, the other 29 probably aren't gonna do you much good either. If you are such a bad fucking shot that you can't take down your target with as many as 10 fucking bullets, something is wrong with you.
I think that's the problem with gun nuts, they think that more is better when better is better and if they are so fucking dumb that they can't hit the broad side of a barn with 10 shots they really need to practice. Or give up shooting.
It is 2 am in the mouning 2 or three stoned home invaders bust down the front door.
I have NO IDEA What your shooting skills are, But I spent 4 years in the infantry USMC A 1\2 and there is no way in hell I can one shot one kill in complete darkness
Nor do I think the safety and welfare of my family should be trusted to some sort of sense of bravado. After all my wife might be home alone.
@CSATexan If you can't you are a complete and total failure and a disgrace to marines everywhere. Sorry, but your little scenario is flawed in so many ways it's not even funny. First off you should know the basic elements of a B&E type standoff situation and know how to already protect yourself without needing to fire off from a sound sleep. Hell if you are doing that who knows who you are killing. (I'm surprised you haven't emptied a clip into your boyfriend if he comes into the room late)
So in your mind a home invader is going to stand still while you pop him in the head. All three or more are going to stand still while you pop holes in them.
HA HA HA - AH AH AH
All militaries in the world have done test and hands on training. IT ISN'T LIKE THE MOVIES DUDE
@CSATexan Like I said before, I'm fine with guns, and I think that people should have guns, but for the life of me I can't think of a justifiable reason to have a 30 round magazine. What's the point in that? So that in your example the thug shooting at the officers has 20 more rounds to kill a law enforcement officer? Is that your point? You want more cops to die? Is that what I'm supposed to take from this? A murderous scumbag should have more opportunity to turn a man's wife into a widower?
@CSATexan So, you can't protect your family with less than a 30 round magazine? What, do you need a chain gun in order to hit a single target? Are you that bad of a shot? Really, again, I have no problem with people owning guns, (a point your apparently too retarded to understand).
What I have a problem with is people like you who obviously can't hit the broad side of a barn spraying bullets every which way and killing god knows who and not giving innocent bystanders the opportunity to duck!
Once again, you are posting from a position of ignorance.
EVEN IF YOU HIT THE TARGET DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL STOP HIM!!!!!
I have a $400 EoTEch that guarantees I can hit any target. I have been trained in Urban warfare and can tell you for a fact that it anyone who thinks otherwise is putting there safety at risk for no legitimate reason what so ever.
You can take those risk with your family, it wont bother me one bit.
@CSATexan This is true, however, still, if you can't put your target down with 10 shots, you suck and probably are too stupid to own a firearm.
I know I can hit what I'm shooting at, if you need a laser sight just to hit a damn target well that's good for you, I don't and I really don't give a fuck.
I personally think that the person that you're family should most be worried about is the moron in the house who can't stop a target unless he has a belt fed chain gun!
You are just proving to me that you have no idea what you are talking about EoTech is a Holographic sight not a laser. I don't think you have ever shot a weapon in your life. Other than your daddies shot gun.
The fact that you PERSONALLY THINK means next to nothing, that would be like asking you for medical advice.
A fight is NOTHING like the video games you play. It isn't a duel you get a shot and then he turns and fires.
Tell ya what keep your door unlocked and buy yourself a muzzle loader for all I care.
There is a reason all professional fighting forces int he world use large capacity magazines. Why don't you write them a letter and tell them how bad a shot they are.
I have a "Gun-Free Zone" card always at a ready with me. I never fear the Ghettos day in and day out. With my "Gun-Free Zone" card I'm protected. I combine that card with my cellphone, on speed-dial is 911. When confronted by anyone or gang with intent to harm me, I show my card and cellphone speed dial number, No matter what kind of criminal/s, they all run away in fear. Thank you Gun-Free Zone. I also have it in "Spanish", "Arab" and "Ebonics".
One of my neighbors has a sign that says, "Proud Supporter of Gun Control. There are no guns in this house."
Why not just tell criminals that they can take whatever they want? If his life's in danger, I'll have to go over there with my god-damned gun and try to save him.
@DeadFishFactory Nah, I'd be on my property line telling the thugs that they'd best not step in MY yard. But the douche in the next house over is on their own.
No offense Americans, just straightening out this cocky P.O.S and defending my country. By the way, our gun laws are improving (long gun registry is soon to be scrapped), marijuana might be on it's way to legalization in July making billions of dollars in tax revenue for our government to utilize as well as improving general health and productivity. Our the oil sands on Northern Alberta is pumping out oil steady as well. Good for business. How has America been improving lately?
@NormanMatchem America hasn't been improving lately, a bunch of retards went and elected a no nothing anti-oil, anti-energy, anti-everything that could improve the economy to president. So yeah, we're screwed until he's gone at least.
ok lady, if guns *aren't* the problem, then why is America, the country with the most lax gun laws by far, have 10 x or more gun related deaths than other 1st world nations.
Nobody cares what you think, Canada. You do not have the problems of criminals with guns up there, so don't even act like you know what you're talking about. I'm sorry that you're still forced to defend yourselves with large sticks and blocks of ice up there. A Canadian criticizing anyone, much less America, is an absolute joke.
@jec7483 "I cannot but conclude you to be one of the most pernicious little odious reptiles that nature ever suffer'd to crawl upon the surface of the Earth"
@jec7483 I've been a proud gun owner since I was 18 years old, started off with buying a Springfield M1911A1 Mil Spec in a mall. Shot 200 rounds with it at an indoor range in said mall the same day, as well as played with a .44 magnum, .357, .45 colt long, 9mm, and .45 acp through an H&K USC. I now own a very large collection of firearms, as do many of my fellow countrymen. I'm Canadian, there are MANY gun owners in Canada, we're proud of our country, and we are very well armed...
@jec7483 We're also doing much better in Canada than the US, our dollar is stronger, and our government isn't completely full of corruption like yours is. I think it's time you realized your precious America is sinking fast, and you are in no place to criticize countries doing better than yours. Hell, the USA is on it's way to becoming a third world country! Good luck fixing the 3 wars and trillions in dept, what with Bush and Obama, but your in no state to talk shit about Canada.
@StevenBee2 Hey man, gun laws have nothing to do with gun crime, which is done my criminals. You think criminals are worried about firearm laws? Stricter gun laws do not mean more peace, gun bans only ever lead to more crime, and never lowers it. Switzerland has a requirement that every able-bodied man between the age of 20-36 or so is REQUIRED to own an assault rifle. Said country has VERY little gun violence, so more guns and less regulation does not=violence. Guns/laws are not the problem.
For those who want protection from guns without a gun, there is bullet-proof material. Of course, if you want to take this on the extreme side, you'd have to cover every inch of your body and avoid stripping in areas where others could easily get to you in a non-bullet proof area. I would rather buy a gun instead!
@zchris87v Dohhhhh ...... you tell a criminal that he can't have a gun ..... so he says "Oh crap". You no-brainers walking around need to wise up. No .... forget it .... that'll never work.
@SolarServer Not sure which comment you read, but my clear direct question toward a gun-control advocate should've made my stance crystal-clear, and if not the interpretation of my comment, then the videos on my channel should've conveyed that message. And if I'm misinterpreting your comment and it actually reads "criminals will obey the law if guns are outlawed"...well, there's not much arguing I can do to change your mind.
@zchris87v hmmmm ....... I musta replied late at night .... can't find your original msg so I'm assuming from your remarks I was replying to the wrong person. My bad .... and my apologies.
Law abiding people should never be denied their right to be able to defend their homes, families or themselves.
It's all well and good that you believe yourself capable enough to effectivly address and unexpected threat to hearth and home. But what do you say that a 105 lb single mother should do against a 200 lb thug?
A disabled Veteran against a couple of neighborhood thugs? My Mum against..... well, you get the picture. Lawfully owned guns equalize.
I have news for dumbass hillbillies like you, President Obama is signing into law his new Jared Loughner Law that will systematically remove your so-called "Right to Bare Arms" by the time his 2nd term ends.
I can't believe that liberals could watch this and still think that gun free zones work Unless you use metal detectors in every "gun free zone", it will not keep lunatics from bringing a gun in. Then when they bring in metal detectors, the psychos will just shoot people before they enter the gun free zone. Are you going to put cops on every corner to stop them?
@rudyfortner2007 A metal detector doesn't STOP anyone if they want to bring a gun into a "GFZ". They only alert you to the person who has already walked in and is, by the time they react to the alarm, already drawn their gun and can be laying down fire where ever they wish. Detectors only DETECT. It takes other people with guns to STOP a gun armed killer. Disarming the public only makes potential helpless targets of honest people.
I guess American Army bases are gun-free zones. You psychopaths need to get a grip on your gun loving. Remember that shoot-up at Fort Hood? Yeah, the only places that shoot-ups happen are where guns aren't present.
@DearyLeary Are you kidding? Your post doesn't make any sense since military bases are, in fact, gun free zones. All federal government properties are gun free zones. Only law enforcement officers performing official duties are allowed to have guns in gun free zones. The soldiers and civilians at Fort Hood were not allowed to have guns.
@DearyLeary thlman is correct. I live in Germany and the only people who can carry guns on base are the gate guards (but they have no ammunition) and the military police. That's not to say that there is not an armory on base, but it's locked down pretty tight. Some bases make it possible for a great majority of soldiers to carry guns, but you only saw that in Kosovo and some of the hot spots.
Military bases are gun free zones (as I described above) in America, western Europe and the Pacific.
Sure, I'm all for no guns on the streets. Once we become a civilized country where crime doesn't exist, and people are in no danger whatsoever, by all means.
Until you find a way to achieve that, shut the fuck up.
are you fucking joking its not the guns.......... ITS THE FUCKING STATES! ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS! YOU FUCKING REDNECK YANKEE FUCKS DONT NEED 13 GUNS A HOUSE OF COURSE THIS SHITS GOING TO HAPPEN YOUR COUNTRY IS FILLED WITH CRAZY ASS REDNECKS...... man its like putting cake in front of a fat kid of course hes gona eat it! you give some fucking crazy american a gun of course they are gona shoot it! and if u say its not the states u check the stats u fucks it is you guys dont even say its not
@assym2006 typical reaction of the mindless masses. You are so sure that nothing bad will ever happen to you. How arrogant! No barbed wire for me, but at least I have the option. how would you handle a life threatening situation? I honestly hope you never have to face one.tell me, how is it paranoid to want to protect my family? Its my right as well as yours. A gun is a great defensive tool and it should be used as such.
@assym2006 I hope you never have to defend yourself from a criminal who doesn't care about gun laws. I'm sure you will be wishing you and your neighbor could have a gun when your being tied up and then made to watch while your wife or children are raped. Wait a minute, that could never happed to you! Nobody can have guns here...they are "banned"! Don't you want to defend yourself? How will you do it without a gun? Oh yeah. Call the cops. They are only minutes away.
PLEASE PASS THIS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need as many tools as we can get to fight the media's ignorant, misleading and misguided propaganda about firearms, brainwashing society basically.
You know where there will never be a mass shooting? Gun shooting ranges.
budabk 1 month ago 3
The ban on drugs worked great! Right?... We all know that criminals obey all laws and nifty little signs posted outside of buildings and properties.
FMJPatriot 2 months ago
Creating gun free zones works as well as creating a stupidity free zone on YouTube.
shananagans5 2 months ago 14
"1000's of guns with at least a hundred people!" Damn right I carry 15 guns every time I go out!
Nationofhonor 2 months ago
@Nationofhonor NRA conventions and gun shows. There may be over 100 guns to the person at some of those shows.
combatwombat7 1 month ago
@Nationofhonor: Perhaps you've never been to a gun range then. I bring 8 or more guns when I go to a gun range.
divineintervener 1 month ago
It's always fun to watch politicians think creating crime-free zones will actually mean that no crime will be committed there.
DeadFishFactory 2 months ago
@DeadFishFactory Do you actually think politicians are that dumb? Politicians play with your mind, and their goal is to disarm every citizen so that they could arm themselves and better control people. They want a totalitarian state!
afg96 2 months ago
@DeadFishFactory It would be funny if it they weren't actually in charge.
divineintervener 1 month ago
@granthemenway not even a cop on the phone. just some stupid operator telling you to stay calm.
conservthestate 4 months ago
what is the point of following these stupid laws. if you are in a restaurant and a criminal starts shooting people. i would much rather kill him, save everybody and go to court. or we can all just line up like the jews in front of the nazis and wait to be shot. after all, the law in Germany didnt allow guns for jews. who lived? the ones that kept there guns. i dont give a damn what the law is. i want to live and i have the right.
conservthestate 4 months ago
@conservthestate Thanks to the 2nd Amendment, DC v. Heller, and McDonald v. Chicago, you have the individual right to keep and bear arms. However, both Heller and McDonald were 5-4 decisions, meaning a 2 justice shift on the high court and we could find ourselves "gun free" by law like Nazi Germany, Mao's China, and Stalin's USSR. The banning of private gun ownership will precede totalitarian law.
BloodofPatriots 3 months ago
@BloodofPatriots well, its sad to say that its actually only 1 switch that is needed to change this country into another control state. but you just gotta hold on to your guns and wait it out. but by no means should anyone EVER give away there guns, i dont care what law the nazis make.
conservthestate 3 months ago 2
There is a Ban on Alcohol Consumption while Driving....I love the way that has worked out.
Nobody has been killed by a Drunk Driver for at least 30 seconds.
hammerogod 4 months ago
A Gun Free Zone is a place you have to shoot your way into.
Just kidding.
(not so much)
I am a lifelong law abiding citizen.
I have never used a hand held weapon to do any kind to harm.
(yes, I was in the Military, I said Hand Held).
I will never use a gun to defend myself if I can possibly avoid it.
But I am a gun owner...I legally own several high quality firearms.
And I use them regularly...practice, practice, practice.
I hope I NEVER have to use one of my guns against anyone, ever.
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platinumshadow03 4 months ago
Guns don't kill people, Americans are just fucking crazy!
deekeeley83 5 months ago
There's no way to make guns illegal, as criminals will still find ways to get them. You just have to deal with it, and stop the the moron who tries to shoot people up. You don't do that by banning guns.
Vengrence 5 months ago
in my opinion you should just half to get your damn criminal record checked before getting a firearm licence so then criminals will not get to own guns.
dynamiteproduction12 6 months ago
@dynamiteproduction12
That is how it works right now. Every time I buy a weapon I have a background check ran on me though a database maintained by the FBI. And it is not just me, every single person in the USA who buys a weapon has this done.
BionicSniper 6 months ago
@dynamiteproduction12 That's how it is. However, it's wishful thinking that just because you are required a background check to legally purchase a gun means that no criminals will have guns.Criminals buy from gun traffickers or straw dealers.
What you're saying is like saying that making drugs illegal would mean that no one would be using drugs.
DeadFishFactory 5 months ago
@DeadFishFactory if they do get guns illigally the cops would probably know if they saw them and they will be caught, you do make a good point but im not saying that if that happened there would be no illegal guns whatsoever but it would be alot better for the responsible people. but if the law comes to banning guns completely there willl be idiots who still get them no matter what
dynamiteproduction12 5 months ago
@dynamiteproduction12 And background checks do exist and are required. It's not like it's not. And it ain't free, either ($25.00 in my state).
DeadFishFactory 5 months ago
You know what else we should ban? Cars that go over 80 miles per hour. I mean, the maximum speed limit in America is 80 miles per hour, so why should we allow people to have cars that can exceed that? They will obviously use it for illegal purposes. Besides, do you know how many kids die every year because they get ahold of their parents car? THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!
I'm sorry if you like cars, but maybe you should get a hobby that isn't dangerous.
TheMasterTelevision 6 months ago
@TheMasterTelevision I use this example all the time fore NY's bullshit "High cap mag ban". All people do is just dodge the question.
Speedogg138 5 months ago
I know of ONE event where a man tried to rob a gun store with a loaded pistol. When he declared he was robbing the store over a dozen armed citizens, including one police officer, shot the robber dead. The robber was the only person who died and no one was injuried.
drnogood59 6 months ago
'mass shootings' are not the issue, they are rare events that you can do little about. escalation of minor conflicts into gunfights IS the issue, and 'gun free zones' in schools at least have done a lot to cut those down.
neeneko 6 months ago
@neeneko
How does a GUN FREE ZONE stop anything??
CSATexan 6 months ago
@neeneko Did you miss the part in the video where she said EXACTLY what you said and said how that didn't happen?
Speedogg138 6 months ago
George Carlin was right
when the nazi's come back
they will be wearing earth shoes and smiley face t shirts
and it will be for your own good
wwade2nd 6 months ago
For the record:
I own more guns than the New Jersey National Guard.
And I love each and every one of the little rascals.
I bought all of them new and not a single one of them has ever been used in an illegal manner.
None of them has ever taken a life or spilled any blood.
I hope this remains true for the rest of my life.
hammerogod 6 months ago
Prohibition of any substance or item only makes it more profitable for the people who don't care about the "Law" to market that substance or item.
Basically it puts more money in the hands of the Illegal Marketers.
History proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that prohibition has no chance of ever doing what it is intended to do.
I strongly agree that there is a group of people who should not own firearms but I don't think any of that same group should own cars either.
Or have children.
hammerogod 6 months ago
Anyone else here old enough to recall a time before "gun free zones" when the term school shooting was not a part of everyday vocabulary? Funny how school shootings are a bigger problem than they were before "gun free zones"
shananagans5 7 months ago
If I was a criminal, I'd rob people in a GUN-FREE zone!
LOL
BestPoliticalVideos 8 months ago
I remember reading something where a man in china went on a killing spree in a classroom or children, killed 12 children I think and the teacher. What did he use? Take a guess guys. A gun! NO, wrong, he used a knife.
So any argument saying that guns will reduce crime and deaths is only a fantacy, criminal/crazy will just move on to the next best thing.
MavHunter20XX 8 months ago
Gun free zone = defenceless people open to the slaughter if crazy/criminal decides he wants to ignore the laws and go on a shooting spree.
MavHunter20XX 8 months ago
Quite a bit of shootings and gun related murders are committed with guns that were/are obtained legally, you know? And many a crazy/criminal obtain CWP's... legally... and then kill a lot of people with their concealed weapons.
Don't know why any law abiding, acting only in self defense, "normal" citizen would need an assault rifle either, as the word "assault" is somewhat contrary to the phrase "self defense."
bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 Prove it.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
@bpa619 What I ment to say, what are you trying to prove? That's a given that people take advantage of the system, but you can't keep the sane, law abiding person to protecting him/herself from what ever implement they choose? You have to remember, if it isn't the gun, then it'll be the next best thing. And rapists don't need a gun to rape, but hell, the person they were raping sure could have prevented it w/ one.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
... what the fuck are you talking about? So if I'm being verbally assaulted, blackmailed, extorted, or even physically assaulted with fists, I should be able to shoot a bazooka (for instance) at the crazy, non law abiding citizen, as that's my chosen "implement"?
What? Never in the history of the United States has a life sentence or death penalty been given to a rapist (where the victim was over the age of 13). Why should someone be able to kill someone else when being raped?
And what?!!?
bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 Why would anyone want to kill someone who is trying to rape someone? We habe different wave lenghts here. Where I come from that is called "sexual assault" and usually it doesnt end with that, it goes on to murder afterwords.
Seems like you live in la la land.
When you have a gun and you're trying to deffend yourself from another, it's called "personal deffence".
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU talking about?!!?
Yes... we habe different wave lenghts here. You're talking about absurd hypotheticals, and I'm talking about objective reality and law.
Pointing a gun at someone isn't going to "defend" anything from anything. Shooting someone in both their eyes will. That's the point. I don't understand what you're saying. Are you arguing about the semantics of "self defense"? Or are you saying owning any "arm" is what defends lawful citizens from criminals?
Wtf?
bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 Also on the "assault" note. "Assault" is a word tacked on to firearms to give it a name to make it seem like it's not useful for self protection by Anti-gun advocates. The only time "assault" is ever used by military or gun manufactures is for a Select fire (full auto by design) that uses a intermediate cartridge (like 7.62x39 or 5.56x45) which are generally illegal for normal civillian use.
You can assault anyone using your fists, but should we outlaw all fists?
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
"Assault" is a word tacked on to rifles that are refered to, known as, and actually labeled, "assault rifles."
There is absolutely no need for anyone to own an AK-47 or M-16. Automatic, high powered firearms provide no more protection than the smallest caliber single shot pistol.
You even say it.. I catn.. hiot3t tnoksdg
FUCKing GOD DAMNIT everyone is so stupid they even argue against themselves. It's fucking ridiculous.
Either nuclear warheads should be legal or nothing should.
bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 Ok, I'll humor you. Imagine that you're on a farm and you're family is couped up in the cellar but you have multiple thugs that know that you have food/water, but not only that, they want to have some fun w/ you wife and daughter after they're done w/ you. You think a pistol is going to be the best thing you have?
In Oakland riots there a man that had to defend his property from looters and he did that with a semi auto rifle.
Also Wiki, assault rifle, before you go further.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
What?! Why in the fuck would "multiple thugs" ever come to a farm?! What in the fuck... where do you come from? You actually believe in this shit? You're talking about a quasi dystopian future, and I'm talking about how assault rifles only kill people, and "defend" nothing.
And what anok 0t n WHAT?! Every single rifle on that "Wiki, assault rifle," is (now) legal to own by anyone who chooses to go through the proper procedures to own it. What in the fuck are you talking about, ever?!
bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 Uh wha? I thought you're done already. Dude, you're not going to convince me. Go fly a kite or something. I'm not going to waste my time w/ you.
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bpa619 7 months ago
@bpa619 ALso, who the hell owns full auto firearms? Generally people don't own that. I think you got your laws turned around.
You can't legally obtain a full auto rifle w/o a class III liscence which is usually reserved for law enforcment, military, and companies transporting a lot of money.
I've only found the need for full out in an SMG for close range purposes, but that's me, I have to think about the worse possible scenerio, and I can't own one anyway.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
Guns MURDER people. They are evil. IF we banned them, criminals coulnd't use them anymore. BAN THE GUNS!!!
DiegoValadez1771 8 months ago
@DiegoValadez1771
Stupidity and ignorance get people killed. Ignorance is the greatest evil. If we taught firearm responsibility and armed the populace, there wouldn't be any one for criminals to criminalize. BAN IGNORANCE!!
AlesandrosX 8 months ago
@DiegoValadez1771 Sure because criminals don't break the law!
claydudley13 8 months ago
@DiegoValadez1771 If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.
Simple enough, kiddo?
TotalN00BSauce 8 months ago
@DiegoValadez1771 Poeple murder people, a gun is only a impliment, like a knife or a rock. Don't confuse inanimate objects with those who have minds. If there were no guns in the world at all, murder would be commited with knifes, rocks, bows and arrows, and even the firsts...oh wait, most murder are commited with the knife or the fist.....so what is your argument?
MavHunter20XX 8 months ago
@DiegoValadez1771 Does the ban on drugs mean that people couldn't get drugs?
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hmmjak 9 months ago
There are no such thing as GUN FREE ZONES..
They are called GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES..
Yes, these shootings took place there..
Because they were school shootings..
Letting every high school student carry guns around is not a plausible option you fucking terrorist-loving NRA morons.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida
where did ANYONE state that they would want all high school students carrying guns? On a side note, why cant you simply state your opinion instead of resorting to name calling and cursing?
jooby24 9 months ago
@jooby24
This is what I said:
"Letting every high school student carry guns"
This is what you said after twisting my words:
"where did ANYONE state that they would want all high school students carrying guns?"
Letting all students have the right to carry guns does not imply they would want ALL students to carry guns. Just that they want school students to have access to it.
Students and Terrorists.
You, however, don't represent them because your a disgrace to gun rights advocates.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida
Your missing the point that is being made...the point is not that we would want armed students IN high school...the point is that having a gun free zone doesnt work in keeping guns out....also how am i a disgrace to gun rights activists?
jooby24 9 months ago
@jooby24
Most guns rights activists actually believe what they say and stand by it..
If you were one of them, you wouldn't have resorted to twisting what I said to set a straw man argument.
Therefore, you are a disgrace.
So is Penn as he fails to show HW Bush passing the Gun Free School Zone Act, and instead shows politicians he doesn't like.
Also, he only addresses them as "Gun Free Zones" to set up another straw man argument instead of calling them "Gun Free School Zones".
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida
What did i twist? You stated that "Letting every high school student carry guns around is not a plausible option you fucking terrorist-loving NRA morons." To which i simply posed the question as to who stated that they wanted all high school students carrying?
jooby24 9 months ago
@jooby24
If you can't discern between LETTING ALL students carry and WANTING ALL students to carry, then it should be no mystery to anyone else why I called you a disgrace.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida
wow....your just nit picking now....im done...have fun! I hope you enjoy your life!!!
jooby24 9 months ago
@JakDerrida
actually there are GUN FREE ZONES. schools are just ONE example of them. many federal buildings, such as court houses and etc, are GUN FREE ZONES. some states even give the option to owners to prohibit firearms in their establishment and create their own GUN FREE ZONE.
i dont think anyone is saying to let every high school student carry a gun. however, if you have a teacher who is licensed to carry outside this gun free school zone, why not let him carry inside the school as well?
hmmjak 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"if you have a teacher who is licensed to carry outside this gun free school zone, why not let him carry inside the school as well?"
Read the bill.
All you need is permission from the school in order to carry.
They can even allow students to carry(with special permission).
It simply grants that authority to the school
If you believe faculty can responsibly carry, then do so with the school's consent.
Too many brainwashed Libertarians have no idea what they're opposing.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida i dont know many schools who would allow anyone except law enforcement to carry firearms onto school property.
and you're right it might not be "legally" regarded as a GUN FREE ZONE but what else would you call it? it still is what it is.. a gun free zone.
regardless of what name you want to give these zones, it still doesnt address the effectiveness of them. which IMO is quite ineffective.
hmmjak 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"it still is what it is.. a gun free zone."
So I now decree my house to be a"gun free zone".
Is Penn complaining about me restricting his right to carry a gun on MY property??
No. He's specifically complaining about the Gun Free School Zone Act.
And instead of showing Bush Sr(who actually signed the fucking bill), he shows Clinton and Gore to intentionally mislead because Penn is a coward that has blocked me from posting facts on his Youtube videos because he hates free speech.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"regardless of what name you want to give these zones, it still doesnt address the effectiveness of them. which IMO is quite ineffective."
They are ineffective... At completely eliminating shootings in school zones all over the country..
And murder laws are ineffective at eliminating all murders.
Rape laws persist, while rapes continue to happen.
Perhaps we should just legalize murder and rape??
What's the point in fighting something you can't stop??
Right??
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida ok. if you want to make YOUR house a gun free zone then ok. that's your decision.
i'm not sure how you can compare those. rape and murder laws are written as definitions. it establishes what rape and murder is exactly. i'm not sure how you think those laws some how prevent the rape/murder themselves.
the gun free zone is a direct prevention of guns in those areas and if a criminal is already going to murder people, i am pretty sure an imaginary line is not going to stop him
hmmjak 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"i'm not sure how you can compare those. rape and murder laws are written as definitions."
Wow.. I'm sorry to tear down your black and white worldview but rape is defined differently in different states differently in other countries. Statutory rape is as young as 12 in some countries. And in some places it consists of not informing the partner that you're not wearing protection.
Murder has different degrees and some say abortion or assisted suicide is no different.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@JakDerrida yes and like you said some places define it differently but they're still definitions. those are all created to define what is and what is not. is it working? yes. we can look at a definition and interpret it and see how it applies to various situations.
this gun free school zone act was created to prevent gun violence in schools. is it working? no. people still walk onto school grounds and start shooting.
like i said i'm not really sure how you can compare the two.
hmmjak 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"this gun free school zone act was created to prevent gun violence in schools. is it working? no. people still walk onto school grounds and start shooting."
Murder laws were created to prevent murder. is it working? no. people still murder.
The two are comparable because you've done absolutely nothing to differentiate them except claim that violations of the gun free school zone act are not well defined.
The bill is only vague to you because you have not read any of it.
JakDerrida 9 months ago 16
@JakDerrida I belevie that we should start up open hanging again and see if the crime rate goes down.It would save money and people would be scared to commit a crime. I don't like that they try to keep it secret either. Do it in the middle of the town,but don't do it in front of little kids.I would probably set like an age limit like10 or so.
M1GR1 6 months ago
@JakDerrida Provide me some sources that support that the gun free school zone act actually reduced school shootings, all evidence I've seen says the opposite is true.
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JakDerrida 6 months ago
@hmmjak
One thing all countries and states have in common when it comes to rape and murder....
IS THAT IT STILL HAPPENS!!!
Same absurd straw man argument that you made regarding the Gun Free School Zones.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
@hmmjak
"actually there are GUN FREE ZONES. schools are just ONE example of them. many federal buildings, such as court houses and etc, are GUN FREE ZONES"
While guns may be prohibited in these places, they are not legally regarded as "GUN FREE ZONES" under the Gun Free School Zone Act.
Find me a single web site where the exact phrase "Gun Free Zones" can be found other than NRA affiliated web sites attempting to vilify the Gun Free School Zone Act by taking the "school" part out.
JakDerrida 9 months ago
u don't have no gun free zones in america, that's impossible when you can buy ammo and arms the next state over and no passport control between states, u are incapable of creating a gun free zone in a country that allows private gun ownership, but of course im just talking nonsense guns dont kill people people kill people, maybe so but guns make it very very easy
lousaffire 9 months ago
@lousaffire GUN FREE ZONE = SAFETY FREE ZONE don't the morons passing bills realize someone bent on mass murder ignore and actually welcome a gun free zone? makes as much sense as a lock on a screen door and is about as effective
36mauijim 9 months ago
@whatukno The reason we are able to "Keep and bear arms," is in order to be able to resist an oppressive government!! Therefore since THEY have thirty round mags for THEIR rifles, WE should have thirty round mags for OURS!!! If YOU don't want one, fine, but DON'T tell ME that I can't have one!!!
whytbear1 9 months ago 17
@whytbear1 Yes Sir. I like guns, I own guns, does that make me a bad person? No, but your actions do. I would never hurt anyone, yet people want to steal my guns from me. I want to protect myself, and my family. Is that statement bad? I don't think so. Why do all of these gun grabbers exist. Simple answer, government sponsored media.
asleeperj 5 months ago
Guns are fine, but what actually pisses me off is pro gun nuts. I'm good with guns, I have a few, but you don't see me jizzing all over a picture of Thomas Jefferson when people talk about reasonable gun control laws.
CCW laws? I am for em, I want people to be able to legally carry around their guns. I think it's a good idea.
30 round clips? Why? Why do we need fucking 30 round clips? If you can't hit your target with the first round, the other 29 probably won't do you much good either.
whatukno1975 10 months ago
@whatukno1975 what about (3) Ten Round clips?
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
@JAROSLAVAGINA Do you know what the difference is? The 3, 10 round clips take time to load. When you have instructions that you can find on YouTube about bump firing a semi auto thus basically full auto firing off a whole clip in seconds, maybe rational gun owners, those people who are reasonable, can see that you don't need a 30 round clip.
whatukno1975 9 months ago
@whatukno1975 you've never seen anybody reload have you?
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
@JAROSLAVAGINA I know it's not as fast as just having all 30 rounds in one clip. Or are you that fucking fast that you can empty one clip, drop it, reload the next clip chamber a round and start firing again?
whatukno1975 9 months ago
@whatukno1975 to unload and reload only takes about a second if you know what your doing. to chamber a round and fire takes even less.
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
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JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
@JAROSLAVAGINA LMAO! Yea, exactly my point.
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i hope your not arguing that a second and a half makes any difference.
JAROSLAVAGINA 9 months ago
@whatukno1975
Oh, for the love of fuck--they're NOT "clips", they're called MAGAZINES. Why have ten round "clips"? I can carry ten 30 round "clips" or I can carry 30 ten round "clips". Such a restriction is stupid.
TenebraearumParvulus 7 months ago
@TenebraearumParvulus The difference is reload time, you know, giving innocent bystandards a chance in hell of getting out of the way of some damned madman while he's reloading.
There is no real sane logical need for a fucking 30 round Magazine, none, it's just the pro gun (kill em all and let god sort em out) crowd that think that they need this shit.
I hunt, I own guns, and I for the life of me have no idea why anyone would need that many bullets other than to kill a person.
whatukno1975 7 months ago
@whatukno1975
Yeah, and what good would letting them move out of the way do? In a place like a school or a mall, there are only so many places they can hide. You know what else? I could MAKE my own 30 round magazines if I wanted to. All I need is the right tools; for someone who's a locksmith, gunsmith, etc. make a 30rd mag is no sweat.
TenebraearumParvulus 7 months ago
@TenebraearumParvulus Ok so, you're just fine with people getting gunned down with no hope of getting out of the line of fire? Really? This is what it sounds like you are saying to me. That it's perfectly fine for women and children to get blown away because YOU think that it's perfectly ok and reasonable to have a 30 round magazine.
It's great to think there are such caring thoughtful people in the world.
whatukno1975 7 months ago
@whatukno1975
Oh for fucks sake, enough of your bleeding heart bullshit. Tell me, what good would banning hi capacity mags do? JACKSHIT. I could take three 10 round mags, do a few simple adjustments, weld them together, and TADA! 30 ROUND MAG! I've done it before, it's easy.
By banning something that's easy to make, you create a DEMAND; when there's a demand, criminals will BUY; when criminals buy that's MORE MONEY FLOWING IN THE CRIMINAL MARKET. You simply create MORE crime and nothing more.
TenebraearumParvulus 7 months ago
@TenebraearumParvulus When you come back with an intelligent and reasonable argument let me know, otherwise just let it go.
Shit, I like guns, I think that every person who doesn't have a felony should have one, but you don't see me splooging all over a picture of Thomas Jefferson because of stupid shit like this.
whatukno1975 7 months ago
@whatukno1975
"When you come back with an intelligent and reasonable argument let me know"
And yet you don't explain HOW my argument is unintelligent and unreasonable. You don't address my argument AT ALL in your comment. You're a dipshit, brah.
TenebraearumParvulus 7 months ago
@whatukno1975 So ya don't need a 30 round clip? Ask the Korean store owners who successfully defended their life and property during the LA riots when the police would go in to arrest the looters.
CUALL8R 7 months ago
@whatukno1975Sorry I meant "wouldn't" go in to arrest the looters.
CUALL8R 7 months ago
@whatukno1975
I find your argument very disturbing.
Why is it that you can't think of a reason as to why someone shouldn't be able to buy what ever magazine they want?
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan I can think of a very fucking good reason, so that potential victims might have the fucking chance to get the hell out of the line of fire while the gun crazed madman reloads. Think that might be a damn good reason?
But gun nuts are happy about the 6 people killed in Arizona, they are happy that Giffords was shot through the head. They think that such a tragedy proves that 30 round mags work!
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
Someone couldn't possible use it to defend themselves could they???
So long as you feel ok I guess it doesn't matter who is victimized
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan Again, if you can't do the job with the first round, the other 29 probably aren't gonna do you much good either. If you are such a bad fucking shot that you can't take down your target with as many as 10 fucking bullets, something is wrong with you.
I think that's the problem with gun nuts, they think that more is better when better is better and if they are so fucking dumb that they can't hit the broad side of a barn with 10 shots they really need to practice. Or give up shooting.
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
It is 2 am in the mouning 2 or three stoned home invaders bust down the front door.
I have NO IDEA What your shooting skills are, But I spent 4 years in the infantry USMC A 1\2 and there is no way in hell I can one shot one kill in complete darkness
Nor do I think the safety and welfare of my family should be trusted to some sort of sense of bravado. After all my wife might be home alone.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan If you can't you are a complete and total failure and a disgrace to marines everywhere. Sorry, but your little scenario is flawed in so many ways it's not even funny. First off you should know the basic elements of a B&E type standoff situation and know how to already protect yourself without needing to fire off from a sound sleep. Hell if you are doing that who knows who you are killing. (I'm surprised you haven't emptied a clip into your boyfriend if he comes into the room late)
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
So in your mind a home invader is going to stand still while you pop him in the head. All three or more are going to stand still while you pop holes in them.
HA HA HA - AH AH AH
All militaries in the world have done test and hands on training. IT ISN'T LIKE THE MOVIES DUDE
CSATexan 6 months ago
You shoot someone they might not go down with the first second or third shot.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
Here look at that video
watch?v=Hk9zC6PzpqI&playnext=1&list=PLE71151F40663DEE1
A cop and shooter enoptues their guns into each other and didn't hit a thing.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan Like I said before, I'm fine with guns, and I think that people should have guns, but for the life of me I can't think of a justifiable reason to have a 30 round magazine. What's the point in that? So that in your example the thug shooting at the officers has 20 more rounds to kill a law enforcement officer? Is that your point? You want more cops to die? Is that what I'm supposed to take from this? A murderous scumbag should have more opportunity to turn a man's wife into a widower?
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
That is like saying anyone that supports the airline industry wants more people to die in plane crashes.
CSATexan 6 months ago
As i said before a gun is nothing more than a tool. how the tool is used it determiened by a person values.
For some reason you see a gun as a tool that could only be used to murder people. While I see it as a means to protect my family.
You are aware that the Police are under no obligation to protect you right?
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan So, you can't protect your family with less than a 30 round magazine? What, do you need a chain gun in order to hit a single target? Are you that bad of a shot? Really, again, I have no problem with people owning guns, (a point your apparently too retarded to understand).
What I have a problem with is people like you who obviously can't hit the broad side of a barn spraying bullets every which way and killing god knows who and not giving innocent bystanders the opportunity to duck!
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
Once again, you are posting from a position of ignorance.
EVEN IF YOU HIT THE TARGET DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL STOP HIM!!!!!
I have a $400 EoTEch that guarantees I can hit any target. I have been trained in Urban warfare and can tell you for a fact that it anyone who thinks otherwise is putting there safety at risk for no legitimate reason what so ever.
You can take those risk with your family, it wont bother me one bit.
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan This is true, however, still, if you can't put your target down with 10 shots, you suck and probably are too stupid to own a firearm.
I know I can hit what I'm shooting at, if you need a laser sight just to hit a damn target well that's good for you, I don't and I really don't give a fuck.
I personally think that the person that you're family should most be worried about is the moron in the house who can't stop a target unless he has a belt fed chain gun!
whatukno1975 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
You are just proving to me that you have no idea what you are talking about EoTech is a Holographic sight not a laser. I don't think you have ever shot a weapon in your life. Other than your daddies shot gun.
The fact that you PERSONALLY THINK means next to nothing, that would be like asking you for medical advice.
A fight is NOTHING like the video games you play. It isn't a duel you get a shot and then he turns and fires.
Come back when you learn something
CSATexan 6 months ago
@whatukno1975
Tell ya what keep your door unlocked and buy yourself a muzzle loader for all I care.
There is a reason all professional fighting forces int he world use large capacity magazines. Why don't you write them a letter and tell them how bad a shot they are.
CSATexan 6 months ago
I have yet to fire a gun, but I still think they're awesome.
Tiosh 10 months ago
I have a "Gun-Free Zone" card always at a ready with me. I never fear the Ghettos day in and day out. With my "Gun-Free Zone" card I'm protected. I combine that card with my cellphone, on speed-dial is 911. When confronted by anyone or gang with intent to harm me, I show my card and cellphone speed dial number, No matter what kind of criminal/s, they all run away in fear. Thank you Gun-Free Zone. I also have it in "Spanish", "Arab" and "Ebonics".
hoplophobiadoctor 10 months ago 2
One of my neighbors has a sign that says, "Proud Supporter of Gun Control. There are no guns in this house."
Why not just tell criminals that they can take whatever they want? If his life's in danger, I'll have to go over there with my god-damned gun and try to save him.
DeadFishFactory 10 months ago
@DeadFishFactory Nah, I'd be on my property line telling the thugs that they'd best not step in MY yard. But the douche in the next house over is on their own.
MIT1369 10 months ago
No offense Americans, just straightening out this cocky P.O.S and defending my country. By the way, our gun laws are improving (long gun registry is soon to be scrapped), marijuana might be on it's way to legalization in July making billions of dollars in tax revenue for our government to utilize as well as improving general health and productivity. Our the oil sands on Northern Alberta is pumping out oil steady as well. Good for business. How has America been improving lately?
NormanMatchem 10 months ago
@NormanMatchem America hasn't been improving lately, a bunch of retards went and elected a no nothing anti-oil, anti-energy, anti-everything that could improve the economy to president. So yeah, we're screwed until he's gone at least.
Gaidal 10 months ago 2
ok lady, if guns *aren't* the problem, then why is America, the country with the most lax gun laws by far, have 10 x or more gun related deaths than other 1st world nations.
StevenBee2 10 months ago
@StevenBee2
Nobody cares what you think, Canada. You do not have the problems of criminals with guns up there, so don't even act like you know what you're talking about. I'm sorry that you're still forced to defend yourselves with large sticks and blocks of ice up there. A Canadian criticizing anyone, much less America, is an absolute joke.
jec7483 10 months ago
@jec7483 Self-aggrandizing arrogant ignorant racist fuck. Piss off.
StevenBee2 10 months ago
@StevenBee2
Enjoy your worthless country, douchebag.
jec7483 10 months ago
@jec7483 "I cannot but conclude you to be one of the most pernicious little odious reptiles that nature ever suffer'd to crawl upon the surface of the Earth"
StevenBee2 10 months ago
@jec7483 I've been a proud gun owner since I was 18 years old, started off with buying a Springfield M1911A1 Mil Spec in a mall. Shot 200 rounds with it at an indoor range in said mall the same day, as well as played with a .44 magnum, .357, .45 colt long, 9mm, and .45 acp through an H&K USC. I now own a very large collection of firearms, as do many of my fellow countrymen. I'm Canadian, there are MANY gun owners in Canada, we're proud of our country, and we are very well armed...
NormanMatchem 10 months ago
@jec7483 We're also doing much better in Canada than the US, our dollar is stronger, and our government isn't completely full of corruption like yours is. I think it's time you realized your precious America is sinking fast, and you are in no place to criticize countries doing better than yours. Hell, the USA is on it's way to becoming a third world country! Good luck fixing the 3 wars and trillions in dept, what with Bush and Obama, but your in no state to talk shit about Canada.
NormanMatchem 10 months ago
@StevenBee2 Hey man, gun laws have nothing to do with gun crime, which is done my criminals. You think criminals are worried about firearm laws? Stricter gun laws do not mean more peace, gun bans only ever lead to more crime, and never lowers it. Switzerland has a requirement that every able-bodied man between the age of 20-36 or so is REQUIRED to own an assault rifle. Said country has VERY little gun violence, so more guns and less regulation does not=violence. Guns/laws are not the problem.
NormanMatchem 10 months ago
OOOOOO a sign is saying i can't a carry a gun OOOOOOO im SOOOOOOOOO! SCARED!
trooperburger123 10 months ago
Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!
Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend.
Unforgiven (1992)
Shooting the unarmed is easy. They don't shoot back.
user6008 10 months ago
At :18 thats Allen High School, i went there. how that end up in the show?
thekevinallan 11 months ago
For those who want protection from guns without a gun, there is bullet-proof material. Of course, if you want to take this on the extreme side, you'd have to cover every inch of your body and avoid stripping in areas where others could easily get to you in a non-bullet proof area. I would rather buy a gun instead!
MONOPOLY35 11 months ago
"An armed society is a polite society". - Robert Heinlein
Airforcefd 11 months ago
@assym2006 ...but you're glad the guy breaking into your house can have one? Wow, you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.
zchris87v 1 year ago
@zchris87v Dohhhhh ...... you tell a criminal that he can't have a gun ..... so he says "Oh crap". You no-brainers walking around need to wise up. No .... forget it .... that'll never work.
SolarServer 11 months ago
@SolarServer Not sure which comment you read, but my clear direct question toward a gun-control advocate should've made my stance crystal-clear, and if not the interpretation of my comment, then the videos on my channel should've conveyed that message. And if I'm misinterpreting your comment and it actually reads "criminals will obey the law if guns are outlawed"...well, there's not much arguing I can do to change your mind.
zchris87v 11 months ago
@zchris87v hmmmm ....... I musta replied late at night .... can't find your original msg so I'm assuming from your remarks I was replying to the wrong person. My bad .... and my apologies.
SolarServer 11 months ago
@assym2006 You're way off base mate.
Law abiding people should never be denied their right to be able to defend their homes, families or themselves.
It's all well and good that you believe yourself capable enough to effectivly address and unexpected threat to hearth and home. But what do you say that a 105 lb single mother should do against a 200 lb thug?
A disabled Veteran against a couple of neighborhood thugs? My Mum against..... well, you get the picture. Lawfully owned guns equalize.
MIT1369 1 year ago
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I see we have yet another typical Gun-toting Trigger-Happy White Conservative Republican Redneck Fucktard.
Didn't you guys rule America for 8 years already?? Didn't get anything done, did you?
Typical response, exact circular-reasoning Pro-Lifers spew!
I have news for dumbass hillbillies like you, President Obama is signing into law his new Jared Loughner Law that will systematically remove your so-called "Right to Bare Arms" by the time his 2nd term ends.
So FUCK YOU AND YOUR MURDEROUS GUNS!!!
GayWorldOrder 1 year ago
I can't believe that liberals could watch this and still think that gun free zones work Unless you use metal detectors in every "gun free zone", it will not keep lunatics from bringing a gun in. Then when they bring in metal detectors, the psychos will just shoot people before they enter the gun free zone. Are you going to put cops on every corner to stop them?
rudyfortner2007 1 year ago
@rudyfortner2007 A metal detector doesn't STOP anyone if they want to bring a gun into a "GFZ". They only alert you to the person who has already walked in and is, by the time they react to the alarm, already drawn their gun and can be laying down fire where ever they wish. Detectors only DETECT. It takes other people with guns to STOP a gun armed killer. Disarming the public only makes potential helpless targets of honest people.
MIT1369 1 year ago
Look ! There are 15 people who dislike this video. They must fight criminals with hugs, kisses and rainbows.
brad238899 1 year ago 47
@brad238899
Or knives. But we all know how *that* saying goes.
EFDragon 7 months ago
I guess American Army bases are gun-free zones. You psychopaths need to get a grip on your gun loving. Remember that shoot-up at Fort Hood? Yeah, the only places that shoot-ups happen are where guns aren't present.
DearyLeary 1 year ago
@DearyLeary Actaually they are, soldiers aren't aloud to keep firearms in barracks, and concealed carry is not aloud on base
footbalr074 1 year ago
@DearyLeary Are you kidding? Your post doesn't make any sense since military bases are, in fact, gun free zones. All federal government properties are gun free zones. Only law enforcement officers performing official duties are allowed to have guns in gun free zones. The soldiers and civilians at Fort Hood were not allowed to have guns.
thlman 1 year ago
@DearyLeary thlman is correct. I live in Germany and the only people who can carry guns on base are the gate guards (but they have no ammunition) and the military police. That's not to say that there is not an armory on base, but it's locked down pretty tight. Some bases make it possible for a great majority of soldiers to carry guns, but you only saw that in Kosovo and some of the hot spots.
Military bases are gun free zones (as I described above) in America, western Europe and the Pacific.
groam6666 1 year ago
More guns = more security.
tweekin001 1 year ago
More like free fire zones...
fingersticks74 1 year ago
Sure, I'm all for no guns on the streets. Once we become a civilized country where crime doesn't exist, and people are in no danger whatsoever, by all means.
Until you find a way to achieve that, shut the fuck up.
L337COD4 1 year ago 2
are you fucking joking its not the guns.......... ITS THE FUCKING STATES! ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS! YOU FUCKING REDNECK YANKEE FUCKS DONT NEED 13 GUNS A HOUSE OF COURSE THIS SHITS GOING TO HAPPEN YOUR COUNTRY IS FILLED WITH CRAZY ASS REDNECKS...... man its like putting cake in front of a fat kid of course hes gona eat it! you give some fucking crazy american a gun of course they are gona shoot it! and if u say its not the states u check the stats u fucks it is you guys dont even say its not
XDAoKXD 1 year ago
@XDAoKXD u have any idea what the violence in Africa is like
J0ker4u 1 year ago
@assym2006 yea i bet youll karate chop the shit out of some bad guys
joeratti 1 year ago
@assym2006 typical reaction of the mindless masses. You are so sure that nothing bad will ever happen to you. How arrogant! No barbed wire for me, but at least I have the option. how would you handle a life threatening situation? I honestly hope you never have to face one.tell me, how is it paranoid to want to protect my family? Its my right as well as yours. A gun is a great defensive tool and it should be used as such.
metalhead2508 1 year ago 3
@assym2006 I hope you never have to defend yourself from a criminal who doesn't care about gun laws. I'm sure you will be wishing you and your neighbor could have a gun when your being tied up and then made to watch while your wife or children are raped. Wait a minute, that could never happed to you! Nobody can have guns here...they are "banned"! Don't you want to defend yourself? How will you do it without a gun? Oh yeah. Call the cops. They are only minutes away.
metalhead2508 1 year ago 14
@metalhead2508 More like 15mins....sometimes they don't come at all....like when I called.
MavHunter20XX 8 months ago
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Cars kill 64 TIMES MORE THEN GUNS!!!!
>>>> Google "WISQARS Injury Mortality Reports"
PLEASE PASS THIS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need as many tools as we can get to fight the media's ignorant, misleading and misguided propaganda about firearms, brainwashing society basically.
glenbjack 1 year ago
She's smart, sexy, has that sweet southern accent, and loves guns, I think I'm in love!
deadcrowes19 1 year ago
In gun control, just like with alcohol and drugs, prohibition is never the answer, education is the answer.
RoboticsNShenanigans 1 year ago 3