“Unnecessary risks are being taken by patients seeking the liberation treatment.” says Dr. Avneesh Gupte of the CCSVI Clinic. “It has been our contention since we started doing minimally invasive venous angioplasties nearly 6 years ago that discharging patients who have had neck vein surgery on an outpatient basis is contra-indicated. For more information Log on to ccsviclinic.ca OR Call on: +1 (404) 461-9560.
We have been keeping patients hospitalized for a week to 10 days as a matter of safety and monitoring them for symptoms. Nobody who has the liberation therapy gets discharged earlier than that. During that time we do daily Doppler Ultrasounds, blood work and blood pressure monitoring among other testing. For more information Log on to ccsviclinic.ca OR Call on: +1 (404) 461-9560.
This has been the safe practice standard that we have adopted and this post-procedure monitoring over 10 days is the subject of our recent study as it relates to CCSVI for MS patients.” For more information Log on to ccsviclinic.ca OR Call on: +1 (404) 461-9560.
A new CCSVI clinic it is available in Bucharest, Doctors team from Bucharest are certified by DR.ZAMBONI in Ferrara and by Dr. Simka in Poland to perform the CCSVI treatment/procedures.
The price of the treatment INCLUDING Travel Expenses(flight ticket,accomodation,transfers,all exams,angioplasty) is 8200 USD for USA/CANADA patients and for europe patients 5100 Euro Incl. Travel expenses.
CCSVI Clinic Receives Joint IRB Approval for Aftercare Protocol Study.
The joint application between Noble Hospital and CCSVI Clinic has been approved through the IEC Institutional Review Board (IRB) that will allow researchers to use patient data to study their new extended and enhanced aftercare treatment protocol. Please Call 888-419-6855 to know more about participating in the study. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information. Email apply -at- ccsviclinic. ca
History---MS was first defined as a vascular disorder in 1863, when Rindfleisch noted veins engorged with blood in autopsy brains with MS. The autoimmune paradigm began with Dr. Thomas Rivers' animal model of EAE, which was created by injecting foreign antigens into animals' brains, creating lesions that looked a bit like MS. Dr. Tracy Putnam created an exact replication of MS lesions by blocking the venous sinus of dogs and creating venous congestion. Drugs are created to stop EAE, not MS.
Call CCSVI Clinic; (404)461-9560 to schedule your screening today in Fargo, ND or email us at apply@ccsviclinic.ca. Yes, get screened within the US. No waiting….find out more at ccsviclinic.ca
Niki, Search youtube for "CCSVI and Multiple Sclerosis (ENGLISH AUDIO) " and you'll get same video with audio, and strong Italian accent ;) For some reason, I can't print the link here without getting an error.
Will The Liberation Treatment be available in America any time soon? My cousin Lynn was diagnosed with MS when her 6 year old daughter Chloe was 6 weeks old. Lynn's taken a turn for the worst. She's in the Hospital and they're going to put her in Rehab because she can't feed herself anymore
@GreatAuntCayce The treatment will be available if the research can be replicated. Right now thee simply isn't enough evidence to declare victory over MS.
The article "CCSVI – The Importance of Replication" by Steven Novella goes into more detail about the research needed.
Had a neighbor who went to an Asian stem cell center... and their condition totally REVERSED! It was AMAZING! They got a stateside evaluation thru SCC International. Website was sccinternational(dot)info
looking good, i dont think we will get this "cure" in our lifetime, especially in Northern Ireland, our NHS service wuldnt pay for it, now come on all you Brits Im right arent I lol ....................
Let us all hope and pray that this doctor in Italy has found the cause of MS. It baffles me though, how it took so long with our technology to find these blocked / pinched arteries and blood vessels. Any arterey or blood vessel that has been blocked or pinched off can't be good in any circumstance. there's something wrong here. That's my opinion.
@denabach Please read the article "CCSVI – The Importance of Replication" by Steven Novella. The theory of a CCSVI / MS connection is interesting, but it's still far too early to declare the cure found. More research needs to be done and dogmatically declaring that CCSVI causes MS at this stage is premature and irresponsible. It can give people false hope that will be dashed if it's found that Zamboni's research can't be replicated.
@halleyscomet Yes I agree, that it is too early to say that this Liberation Treatment is a cure, but if the procedure is as safe as angioplasty, for a blocked artery, and that it gets people off useless drugs that haven't worked to improve the condition, then I say let them make the choice. It's their lives, and I can't help but feel it is the drug companies putting pressure on the government to slow the progress of this treatment so they won't lose billions of dollars in sales.
@denabach You are right, in Italy it's still not possible to do it so MS patients go abroad and have it done there. It's disgusting, doctors are supposed to help sick people but it's all about money. They interviewed a woman who had very serious difficulty walking and she came back to Italy and could walk and move with no help. It needs time, but the results so far are very promising and there is a trial in the US (dr Robert Zivadinov)
@agustn "It is easy to talk about "premature" when your clock is close to stop."
If I were in the terminal stages of a disease, I'd rather spend my remaining time enjoying what life i had left rather than chasing after unproven quack remedies that will only lead to unnecessary surgeries and infection risks.
@halleyscomet Well, the remaining time depends of the treatment. I have a close friend who was terminal of MS according to the doctors, he went to Bulgaria for the surgery. One week later was a new person, now he can talk and walk and enjoy his family as before this nightmare. After this 10 years of slow deterioration is improving day after day. Talking about unnecesary surgery or infection risks when you are in the horrible situation my friend was is a cruel joke or being an ignorant.
@agustn The problem with your story is I have no way to verify it. You could be telling the truth and your friend really did experience a remarkable recovery. But I have no proof that your friend even HAD MS or that they even existed. You could be lying. They could have has a psychosomatic illness that was "cured' by a placebo.
This is why we have scientific methods for testing, evaluating and approving treatments. Anecdotes are useless as proof. Real research removes the variables.
@halleyscomet Yes. I am biochemist and also know the scientific procedures to validate a treatment or a new drug and also know a little bit about the pharma industry. The problem is when you are the person dying. You can believe me or not, I don´t really care. Maybe I even don´t exist or even you live in Matrix. Good luck and take care.
@denabach "there's something wrong here. That's my opinion."
The reason is actually very simple. MS has been seen as an autoimmune disease for a very long time and there are mechanisms by which MS can cause pinched blood vessels. CCSVI, if noticed, was simply seen as a result of MS and not the cause. The recent research has shown that not all MS patients have CCSVI, so if CCSVI is causing MS for some people, it's probably not the only cause.
Actually, Dr. Zamboni's research was just published last year. It is brand new. MS societies are not the enemy...we just need to be organized and request research money be funneled to CCSVI research. Come to CCSVI in Multiple Sclerosis on Facebook to learn more-
My friend has run through three neurologists since he was diagnosed with MS, and pretty much all of them have been drug pushers for the drug companies. There is so much money at stake here if this treatment turns out to work.
@Zzozze Please let's let science settle this matter and not get caught up in goofy conspiracy theories. If CCSVI does cause MS, then a list of low to no profit drugs can be replaced with lucrative surgeries. "Big Pharma" will make MORE money if Zamboni's thesis is correct.
@halleyscomet unless you work for the big pharma industry yourself, you ought to understand that's it's not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business. (Just as Bill Gates replied once to one of his devellopers who complained that many costumers found windows uneasy to use. His reply was: "It's not to use, it is to sale!". Bertarelli and Vasella could say: "It's not to cure the patients, it's to suck money out of their healthcare insurance, as long as possible!").
@Wheelchairavenger "it's not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business"
That's just ignorant and silly. Quacks and frauds use that line to try and add some credibility to their snake oil, but the reality is bad medicine is being revealed and good medicine is being approved. The system isn't perfect, but that's no reason to jettison evidence based medicine in favor of every random quack who claims to have a cure.
@Wheelchairavenger So in your mind treatments with a long history of efficacy are "snake oil" but debunked claims of a miracle cure from a lone crank are "science."
Riiiight.
For the record, I'm a computer programmer for a company that serves mostly religious no-profits.
@Wheelchairavenger "explain me why the efficacy-proven and not anymore under patent meds are taken off the market one after the other"
What, like the ineffective, magic based homeopathic treatments that are still available? How about the fact that the FDA hasn't actually BANNED MMS? Quackery has to cause a LOT of harm before it's banned in the USA
Regardless, flaws, real or imagined, in the current system do not constitute evidence of efficacy for the "Liberation" surgery being discussed here.
@agustn "Big pharma prefers to have chronic patients"
Saying nasty things about "big pharma" won't make a questionable treatment magically work. The fact that pharmaceutical companies profit from antibiotics doesn't make drinking bleach a viable alternative either.
Drug companies will do everything in their power to discredit this theory. They could lose Billions.Doctors around the world are paid-off in various ways by drug companies to keep quiet and not support possible cures or treatments which would phase out drugs.
This is BIG!!!!!!! A common denominator is found, let's get this out there so it's too big for the medical industry to shoot down. Just watched a 1/2 hour segment on W5 (on CTV in Canada), very insightful. Surprise surprise the MS society has already shot it down, I guess they are linked to profits made by drug manufacturers. Spread the word folks.
The MS society has been aware of this for a long time. If they have decided to try and dodge it, it is, in my opinion, that they need time to plan their next carreer move since, obviously, less of them is gonna be needed in the future... As for the pharmaceuticals, they have to be scared out of their minds to be loosing such a lucrative maket. Kudos to Dr Zamboni and may he win the Nobel Prize of Medicine!
The Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre(MSRC) are much better then the MS society.. They produce a great magazine called new pathways and have a wonderful website with a searchable database...
Translation of the Italian comment below: On Facebook there is also "CCSVI in multiple sclerosis", page in Italian which if where I took the link to this video. Yes, seems this is so! All multiple sclerosis patients have CCSVI, that is a reflux of blood into the brain due to constriction of the veins !!!!!!!!!!! thanksss!
Su Facebook c'è anche "CCSVI nella sclerosi multipla", interventi in italiano da cui ho preso il link a questo video. Sì, sembra proprio così!! Tutti i malati di sclerosi multipla hanno la CCSVI, cioè un reflusso di sangue nel cervello dovuto al restringimento delle vene!!!!!!!!!!! thanksss!!!
There is no audio-just visual. This was created by the team which discovered CCSVI in Italy. It shows the vein problem they are finding in all MS patients.
@Cheerleader4MS "It shows the vein problem they are finding in all MS patients."
Sadly the subsequent research is showing that to not be the case. Look up the article "Venous Insufficiency in Multiple Sclerosis" by Steven Novella for more information.
"I would like to inform you that I had made this study done on Aug, 18. The question was where, but not whether. I have stenosis in two places. The term of operations - October!
Chcę poinformować, że miałem w dn 18.08. robione te badanie. Pytaniem było gdzie, ale nie czy. Mam zwężenie w dwóch miejscach i patalogiczną zastwakę. Termin operacji - październik !
Yes, this is real. Come to CCSVI in Multiple Sclerosis on Facebook to learn more. Every MS patient tested so far (over 500) has reflux of blood into their brains and/or spines.
thanks again form UK to you Joan :)
Lynneheal 4 months ago
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robert80taylor 7 months ago
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We have been keeping patients hospitalized for a week to 10 days as a matter of safety and monitoring them for symptoms. Nobody who has the liberation therapy gets discharged earlier than that. During that time we do daily Doppler Ultrasounds, blood work and blood pressure monitoring among other testing. For more information Log on to ccsviclinic.ca OR Call on: +1 (404) 461-9560.
robert80taylor 7 months ago
This has been the safe practice standard that we have adopted and this post-procedure monitoring over 10 days is the subject of our recent study as it relates to CCSVI for MS patients.” For more information Log on to ccsviclinic.ca OR Call on: +1 (404) 461-9560.
robert80taylor 7 months ago
A new CCSVI clinic it is available in Bucharest, Doctors team from Bucharest are certified by DR.ZAMBONI in Ferrara and by Dr. Simka in Poland to perform the CCSVI treatment/procedures.
The price of the treatment INCLUDING Travel Expenses(flight ticket,accomodation,transfers,all exams,angioplasty) is 8200 USD for USA/CANADA patients and for europe patients 5100 Euro Incl. Travel expenses.
CCSVIROMANIA 9 months ago
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CCSVI Clinic Receives Joint IRB Approval for Aftercare Protocol Study.
The joint application between Noble Hospital and CCSVI Clinic has been approved through the IEC Institutional Review Board (IRB) that will allow researchers to use patient data to study their new extended and enhanced aftercare treatment protocol. Please Call 888-419-6855 to know more about participating in the study. Log on to ccsviclinic. ca for more information. Email apply -at- ccsviclinic. ca
Gregmills007 11 months ago
Frequently Asked Questions about CCSVI in Bulgaria ccsvibg.com
CCSVIBG 1 year ago
History---MS was first defined as a vascular disorder in 1863, when Rindfleisch noted veins engorged with blood in autopsy brains with MS. The autoimmune paradigm began with Dr. Thomas Rivers' animal model of EAE, which was created by injecting foreign antigens into animals' brains, creating lesions that looked a bit like MS. Dr. Tracy Putnam created an exact replication of MS lesions by blocking the venous sinus of dogs and creating venous congestion. Drugs are created to stop EAE, not MS.
Cheerleader4MS 1 year ago
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halleyscomet 1 year ago
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@Cheerleader4MS "MS was first defined as a vascular disorder in 1863"
Right, because first impressions that are over 100 years old are ALWAYS more right than the intervening century plus of research.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@userresu99 I have seen the results in a friend and I can swear it is not a fraud. What is a real shame is to close the eyes to the evidences.
agustn 1 year ago
Call CCSVI Clinic; (404)461-9560 to schedule your screening today in Fargo, ND or email us at apply@ccsviclinic.ca. Yes, get screened within the US. No waiting….find out more at ccsviclinic.ca
derekdadey1 1 year ago
To learn more, please visit the new CCSVI Alliance website
CCSVI (dot org)
Cheerleader4MS 1 year ago
is there sound?
niiikkkiiii 1 year ago
Niki, Search youtube for "CCSVI and Multiple Sclerosis (ENGLISH AUDIO) " and you'll get same video with audio, and strong Italian accent ;) For some reason, I can't print the link here without getting an error.
sbrennand 1 year ago
Will The Liberation Treatment be available in America any time soon? My cousin Lynn was diagnosed with MS when her 6 year old daughter Chloe was 6 weeks old. Lynn's taken a turn for the worst. She's in the Hospital and they're going to put her in Rehab because she can't feed herself anymore
GreatAuntCayce 1 year ago
@GreatAuntCayce The treatment will be available if the research can be replicated. Right now thee simply isn't enough evidence to declare victory over MS.
The article "CCSVI – The Importance of Replication" by Steven Novella goes into more detail about the research needed.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
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Had a neighbor who went to an Asian stem cell center... and their condition totally REVERSED! It was AMAZING! They got a stateside evaluation thru SCC International. Website was sccinternational(dot)info
largefolder1977 2 years ago
LDN is a good and safe drug that works and only costs a $1 a day...
sploggon 2 years ago
looking good, i dont think we will get this "cure" in our lifetime, especially in Northern Ireland, our NHS service wuldnt pay for it, now come on all you Brits Im right arent I lol ....................
janzokris 2 years ago
join ms ccsvi uprising on facebook!
bdcainathotmail 2 years ago
don't wait for the ms society to funnel $
just start our own ms ccsvi walks and rides cut out the middle man!
bdcainathotmail 2 years ago
Let us all hope and pray that this doctor in Italy has found the cause of MS. It baffles me though, how it took so long with our technology to find these blocked / pinched arteries and blood vessels. Any arterey or blood vessel that has been blocked or pinched off can't be good in any circumstance. there's something wrong here. That's my opinion.
denabach 2 years ago 2
@denabach Please read the article "CCSVI – The Importance of Replication" by Steven Novella. The theory of a CCSVI / MS connection is interesting, but it's still far too early to declare the cure found. More research needs to be done and dogmatically declaring that CCSVI causes MS at this stage is premature and irresponsible. It can give people false hope that will be dashed if it's found that Zamboni's research can't be replicated.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Yes I agree, that it is too early to say that this Liberation Treatment is a cure, but if the procedure is as safe as angioplasty, for a blocked artery, and that it gets people off useless drugs that haven't worked to improve the condition, then I say let them make the choice. It's their lives, and I can't help but feel it is the drug companies putting pressure on the government to slow the progress of this treatment so they won't lose billions of dollars in sales.
denabach 1 year ago
@denabach You are right, in Italy it's still not possible to do it so MS patients go abroad and have it done there. It's disgusting, doctors are supposed to help sick people but it's all about money. They interviewed a woman who had very serious difficulty walking and she came back to Italy and could walk and move with no help. It needs time, but the results so far are very promising and there is a trial in the US (dr Robert Zivadinov)
TeeSok 1 year ago
@halleyscomet I hope you won´t be at final stage of a disease. It is easy to talk about "premature" when your clock is close to stop.
agustn 1 year ago
@agustn "It is easy to talk about "premature" when your clock is close to stop."
If I were in the terminal stages of a disease, I'd rather spend my remaining time enjoying what life i had left rather than chasing after unproven quack remedies that will only lead to unnecessary surgeries and infection risks.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Well, the remaining time depends of the treatment. I have a close friend who was terminal of MS according to the doctors, he went to Bulgaria for the surgery. One week later was a new person, now he can talk and walk and enjoy his family as before this nightmare. After this 10 years of slow deterioration is improving day after day. Talking about unnecesary surgery or infection risks when you are in the horrible situation my friend was is a cruel joke or being an ignorant.
agustn 1 year ago
@agustn The problem with your story is I have no way to verify it. You could be telling the truth and your friend really did experience a remarkable recovery. But I have no proof that your friend even HAD MS or that they even existed. You could be lying. They could have has a psychosomatic illness that was "cured' by a placebo.
This is why we have scientific methods for testing, evaluating and approving treatments. Anecdotes are useless as proof. Real research removes the variables.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Yes. I am biochemist and also know the scientific procedures to validate a treatment or a new drug and also know a little bit about the pharma industry. The problem is when you are the person dying. You can believe me or not, I don´t really care. Maybe I even don´t exist or even you live in Matrix. Good luck and take care.
agustn 1 year ago
@denabach "there's something wrong here. That's my opinion."
The reason is actually very simple. MS has been seen as an autoimmune disease for a very long time and there are mechanisms by which MS can cause pinched blood vessels. CCSVI, if noticed, was simply seen as a result of MS and not the cause. The recent research has shown that not all MS patients have CCSVI, so if CCSVI is causing MS for some people, it's probably not the only cause.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
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jelenaekv 11 months ago
Actually, Dr. Zamboni's research was just published last year. It is brand new. MS societies are not the enemy...we just need to be organized and request research money be funneled to CCSVI research. Come to CCSVI in Multiple Sclerosis on Facebook to learn more-
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
My friend has run through three neurologists since he was diagnosed with MS, and pretty much all of them have been drug pushers for the drug companies. There is so much money at stake here if this treatment turns out to work.
MrXfromPlanetX 2 years ago
@Cheerleader4MS Sadly subsequent research is indicating this is NOT the cure-all people were hoping for.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
the big-pharma sponsored MS-forums/ MS-societies do kind of a censorship if you talk too loud about venous insufficiency and it's cure
Zzozze 2 years ago 2
@Zzozze Please let's let science settle this matter and not get caught up in goofy conspiracy theories. If CCSVI does cause MS, then a list of low to no profit drugs can be replaced with lucrative surgeries. "Big Pharma" will make MORE money if Zamboni's thesis is correct.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet unless you work for the big pharma industry yourself, you ought to understand that's it's not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business. (Just as Bill Gates replied once to one of his devellopers who complained that many costumers found windows uneasy to use. His reply was: "It's not to use, it is to sale!". Bertarelli and Vasella could say: "It's not to cure the patients, it's to suck money out of their healthcare insurance, as long as possible!").
Wheelchairavenger 1 year ago
@Wheelchairavenger "it's not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business"
That's just ignorant and silly. Quacks and frauds use that line to try and add some credibility to their snake oil, but the reality is bad medicine is being revealed and good medicine is being approved. The system isn't perfect, but that's no reason to jettison evidence based medicine in favor of every random quack who claims to have a cure.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet I know a brand of "snake oil": Serono
(but they build very good racing boats with snake oil buyers' money).
For wich company do you work yourself?
Wheelchairavenger 1 year ago
@Wheelchairavenger So in your mind treatments with a long history of efficacy are "snake oil" but debunked claims of a miracle cure from a lone crank are "science."
Riiiight.
For the record, I'm a computer programmer for a company that serves mostly religious no-profits.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet If not, explain me why the efficacy-proven and not anymore under patent meds are taken off the market one after the other....
And do you still know any pharmacist able to manufacture himself a prescrided med.
Do you believe there was no pharmacy before the 80's?
But since the 90's only big business left, that doesn't care making the clients sick, and cares to keep them clients = sick
Since the 90's there has been improvements only in surgery, in pharmacy nothing but scams.
Wheelchairavenger 1 year ago
@Wheelchairavenger "explain me why the efficacy-proven and not anymore under patent meds are taken off the market one after the other"
What, like the ineffective, magic based homeopathic treatments that are still available? How about the fact that the FDA hasn't actually BANNED MMS? Quackery has to cause a LOT of harm before it's banned in the USA
Regardless, flaws, real or imagined, in the current system do not constitute evidence of efficacy for the "Liberation" surgery being discussed here.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Big pharma prefers to have chronic patients
agustn 1 year ago
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@agustn "Big pharma prefers to have chronic patients"
Saying nasty things about "big pharma" won't make a questionable treatment magically work. The fact that pharmaceutical companies profit from antibiotics doesn't make drinking bleach a viable alternative either.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
Drug companies will do everything in their power to discredit this theory. They could lose Billions.Doctors around the world are paid-off in various ways by drug companies to keep quiet and not support possible cures or treatments which would phase out drugs.
kodiak1966 2 years ago 3
This is BIG!!!!!!! A common denominator is found, let's get this out there so it's too big for the medical industry to shoot down. Just watched a 1/2 hour segment on W5 (on CTV in Canada), very insightful. Surprise surprise the MS society has already shot it down, I guess they are linked to profits made by drug manufacturers. Spread the word folks.
KNT0791 2 years ago
@KNT0791
The MS society has been aware of this for a long time. If they have decided to try and dodge it, it is, in my opinion, that they need time to plan their next carreer move since, obviously, less of them is gonna be needed in the future... As for the pharmaceuticals, they have to be scared out of their minds to be loosing such a lucrative maket. Kudos to Dr Zamboni and may he win the Nobel Prize of Medicine!
evvofreak 2 years ago
The Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre(MSRC) are much better then the MS society.. They produce a great magazine called new pathways and have a wonderful website with a searchable database...
sploggon 2 years ago
Thanks for the video Cheer
Just been watching the two videos from Poland inserting the stent, amazing footage.
AndrewKFletcher 2 years ago
NEW YOUTUBE VIDEO ON CCSVI: search for-
"UB leads the way in battle against MS"
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
Translation of the Italian comment below: On Facebook there is also "CCSVI in multiple sclerosis", page in Italian which if where I took the link to this video. Yes, seems this is so! All multiple sclerosis patients have CCSVI, that is a reflux of blood into the brain due to constriction of the veins !!!!!!!!!!! thanksss!
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
Su Facebook c'è anche "CCSVI nella sclerosi multipla", interventi in italiano da cui ho preso il link a questo video. Sì, sembra proprio così!! Tutti i malati di sclerosi multipla hanno la CCSVI, cioè un reflusso di sangue nel cervello dovuto al restringimento delle vene!!!!!!!!!!! thanksss!!!
nosadnessno 2 years ago
There is no audio-just visual. This was created by the team which discovered CCSVI in Italy. It shows the vein problem they are finding in all MS patients.
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
@Cheerleader4MS "It shows the vein problem they are finding in all MS patients."
Sadly the subsequent research is showing that to not be the case. Look up the article "Venous Insufficiency in Multiple Sclerosis" by Steven Novella for more information.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
Hello, I cannot get audio...
can you please repost??
thanks.
Diagnosed 2000
mjhirtzer 2 years ago
Translation of the Polish comment from below:
"I would like to inform you that I had made this study done on Aug, 18. The question was where, but not whether. I have stenosis in two places. The term of operations - October!
Yours Rysiek"
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
Tks Cheerleader4MS
Rici
wiercin 2 years ago
Chcę poinformować, że miałem w dn 18.08. robione te badanie. Pytaniem było gdzie, ale nie czy. Mam zwężenie w dwóch miejscach i patalogiczną zastwakę. Termin operacji - październik !
Pozdrawiam Rysiek
wiercin 2 years ago
Yes, this is real. Come to CCSVI in Multiple Sclerosis on Facebook to learn more. Every MS patient tested so far (over 500) has reflux of blood into their brains and/or spines.
Cheerleader4MS 2 years ago
Is this for real?
matute11 2 years ago
Great Job Cheerleader.Greetings from Poland.CCSVI is the solution of MS.
HuraganPolska 2 years ago
WTG Cheer! thanks
Artifishual 2 years ago