Alcohol---one of the worst, most destructive drugs on earth and it's 100% legal yet steroids and marijuana---both of which have proven, medical benefits---are illegal and will get you put in prison.
Mark and Mike Bell blood work came back and it revealed they were showing negative signs of steroid abuse..they shouldn't have deleted that scene. Would've balanced the making of this documentary.
the depression some long-term steroid users get can also be explained pretty easily. testosterone when not fully utilized can convert to estrogen, which increases stress and since stress causes increases in cortisol production, your body stores more fat on top of that. why do you think long-term virgins are usually depressed and heavier?
duh, roid rage is real, just the term is exaggerated. it's as simple as this, large amounts of testosterone in the body leads to increased tendencies towards irritability or aggressiveness which can occasionally manifest itself in violent behavior, and steroids are intended to up your testosterone levels, so there ya go...but you have to take a lot of them for it to be severe.
I work as a bouncer too, and alkohol is imo worse than steroids. Sometimes I wonder why alkohol is legalized. People get seriously fucked up on alkohol.
Read about roids in a book on physco-pharmacology (drugs and the mind). Many experts including Dr Pope find roid rage in a minority of steroid users. Most stories I hear about them here in Europe seem to commies in the Olympics. One girl was given them without her knowledge in East Germany hammer throwing. She became so manly she had a dick fitted when the Soviets fell. Use in European football is rare apparently.
the rage is what insurance companies call "a pre-existing condition". It's not a magical solution add steroids, add water=asshole. IF they're an asshole when they drink or take roids...it's because they're an asshole
@lapuzza1455 Everybody is an asshole. On steroids, off steroids, on beer off beer, on recreational drugs off recreational drugs. It dosent matter, we all have that asshole within yourself. Some people just lets the asshole be caged within for their entire life while others find they key and let the SOB out.
@kriegpaolo i think it's just consistency, although its a good piece, sometimes you got to trim the fat lol .. he covered a lot of topics in the documentary and I bet he wanted a fair balance of the subjects...
when someone says people who take roids have roid rage is literally like saying ALL gay people will go into a public place such as a park and they will begin to take their clothes off and just start fucking each other in the asses. thats the comparison. like if you agree.
One thing to note is that these steroids are based on chemicals produced in the body already one could say most men are on them. I believe that testosterone though can be linked to aggression. Is there is no proven link between testosterone and increased aggression why do we bother to cut off our dog's "nads" to make them calmer.
@Paxification True......been there......but I controlled it before and I control it now. If your a loose cannon before, you'll be a looser cannon while on. We've all seen alot of guys not taking steroids lose it. I used to think it was a terrible thing. I won a coulple National Championships in D1 football. Most of my buddies were juicing and I didn't. Most went to the NFL. I didn't. In hind site I would have juiced no doubt. Never saw any change in their behavior.
I become a major asshole when I occasionally get up that jacked up angry testosterone feeling(I'm a teen). I can;t even imagine how much of a jerk I would be if I took up steroids. Probably be in jail.
@toby099 Dude I'm in college and I still have anger issues. I don't need steroids. In fact, I take my anger to the gym and guys there have personally pulled me off to the side and asked me if I was taking steroids due to how angry I looked and how hard and heavy I was lifting. I honestly told them no I wasn't on steroids and the shocked look on their faces are priceless every single time. Don't know how else to let the anger go.
steroids are not dangerous, we in america are ignorant to the facts about steroids and buy into media hype. steroid ABUSE is dangerous and can be harmful to the body. ever wonder why steroids are not illegal in over 90% of europe, not illegal in cananda, not illegal in central and south america, mexico, africa, middel east, china , russia, japan, etc. think about it.....
lets see 1 case proven that steroids are the DIRECT cause of death to any individual?
then
lets see how many cases there are where alcohol or even nicotine are the DIRECT cause of death to any individual?
also
how many of millions broken homes/loss of jobs/screwed up lives bc of alcohol? and compare that to the amount due to steriods?
oh and by pumping testosterone (hormone) in a male how is that different from pumping estrogen (hormone) "the pill" into females? just curious. talk about rage!
@kettlebellconvert yes , this is very easy to prove. First of all, some people are naturally more prone to anger, because of different reasons, like genetics, environmental reasons, etc, you take someone who never gets angry, give him steroids and he might be OK, however, you take someone who gets mad easily, give him steroids, and you create a monster. Try taking pro-hormones, and see what I mean
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Why hasn't there ever been a double-blind study? That's amazing to me. All these negative claims being made...and people's careers have been ruined--and yet there's not been double-blind studies?! Tell me that's not so....
judging by your username, I'm guessing you've never taken steroids or have bothered to learn about them. your ignorant post is a paragon of why unintelligent and uninformed people like yourself give steroids a bad name when they are nowhere near as bad as the media or ignorant people like you portray them to be.
this is 100% nonsense ... if you have hormones shooting up your butt .. the first thing gonig to be affected is your mood and your brain... your brain is the center for most changes in your body and it reacts like national guard for you rbody and will react to hormones such as test and otehr homrmonal stuff happening arround it.
I have doctor telling me about steroids patients using steroids only have anxiety, pshychosis, depression, and metnal unstabilty .. and alot of rage
@TheRogueMonk the fact is even normal people hide domestic and general vioence they do.. people arround them priotect them by bot telling.
I can almost gurantee to you that steroids users most likely end up abusing it cause they want fast results.. and if in this world of medication if youthink testosterone is a mild and passive hormone your wrong.. EVEN NORMAL ammounts of test in males can cause vioelnce.. now we talk about nighmarish amounts of injections here.. what doyou expect? you stupid?
@TheRogueMonk my message is for any youth or person who wants to get a confirmation that steroids is safe.. i SAY NO. look at aspartame its in all products it not safe
teh market will not tell you its 100% bad cause they want to make money from both sides , .. they make money of this documentary and of you .. byu giving mixed messages.. even the guy in the documentary loks huge and it gives you ideas
@TheRogueMonk Tell you the truth, a majority of Drs dont know shit about steroids. Most experinced user know way more about steroids then drs do. I know plenty of people who do roids and nobody gets angry. Its hyped up bullshit and drs will never recommened steroids that why its biased to ask drs about steroids. They will only tell you negative shit. Find a dr that has used steroids before and get their opinon
@TheRogueMonk That isn't how science works. You can't simply say it's nonsense, you need to present testable data to support your argument. Otherwise it's pure speculation based on anecdotes. Some Dr.'s actually claim steroids don't work at all, so I take your statement with a grain of salt. Show me some data.
@MrShane2369 i have had many of professional trainers confirming this fact to me i dont care what a youtube video says..
normally peopl who claim steroids are safe are 1. those who sell it. 2. those who are using it and still ignore the sideeffets. 3. those who never used it
just go to my site and listen to mike mentzer and wisen up to the marketing world
you can say steroid is safe to "jo" who killed himself or someone else or worse
dont tell it to me.. go tell it to the parents and kids
@TheRogueMonk "I have had many professional trainers confirm this fact" First of all, it isn't a fact because some trainer said so. I can find trainers who'd confirm the exact opposite. It's irrelevant.
"normally peopl who claim steroids are safe are 1. those who sell it. 2. those who are using it and still ignore the sideeffets. 3. those who never used it"
How could you possibly know this? Prove it or I'm calling bullshit.
@MrShane2369 parents , kids, family, whifes who lost their loved ones to steroids and otehr drugs like that...
they dont NEED YOUR EVIDENCE or your testable DATA
testable data up where it dont shine .. look at all aspartame , sucralose , maiscyrup and all that unhealthy stuff...testable data is wroth 0 0 0 NOTHING compared to what people experience and see.
if i didnt see prob with this why would i complain
@TheRogueMonk "testable data is wroth 0 0 0 NOTHING compared to what people experience and see." This is why your entire argument is a fallacy. Maybe if we are living in a fantasy world you'd have a good argument but here on earth, testable data is generally the deciding factor. Testable data is arguably the most important factor when making scientific determinations.
@MrShane2369 why would i compian? i dont look bad i am happy with my physique so i dont get jelous .. i dont get paid anythiing to look after peoples health
i dont get anything else besides saying OPEN YOUR EYES UP
this is HORMONES we are talking about NOT VITAMINS not EVEN smoke or alcohole.. HORMONES
are one of many important functions in the body.. you think using so much of it will NOT DO YOU ANYTHING ... its so naiv and uneducated..
@TheRogueMonk the fact of the matter is sadly no matter how much people proove that steroids are bad and cause mood swings there will be people who want to find an excuse for using it or tring it WHY because the rewards the fast rewards and shallow success .
IT wouldt make much difference EVEN if i found you a steroid user who got in problems cause you would only say "well he doesnt count"
@TheRogueMonk "IT wouldt make much difference EVEN if i found you a steroid user who got in problems cause you would only say "well he doesn't count" It would count for something, but I'd need you to prove there was a connection. I'm open to testable evidence, but I'm not interested in people making wild assertions and telling me I'm a moron for not taking their word for it. If I found enough to who believe unicorns cause cancer, does that make it true? Of course not. It's the same thing.
@TheRogueMonk Smoking has testable data showing it causes severe bodily damage. Same with alcohol. None of that exists for steroids. All I'm suggesting is you make an informed decision based on empirical data, not wild speculation based on ignorance.
im 1oo% natural.... cause i suffer from a genetic dissorder...my body produces loads of testosterone and if i dont work out i kinda experience roid rage, so i work out a lot to keep the testosterone count low...so i believe in roid rage...if i dont work out i experience it
@lion198456 that is not gunna keep your testosterone low. working out will make your levels higher! your body naturally produces more test. during workouts
@lion198456 Dude if anything you just have a lot of energy and need to use that energy before the end of the day. Lifting weights only increase your testosterone.
I dont understand people who are negative towards steroids. Many people probably agree with me on this, Jay Cutler says you do whatever you need to do to win. If you take steroids and just sit there, nothing will happen, your not going to grow these massive biceps, yes steroids increase the ability of gaining mass and muscle. but thats like saying Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world and won the 100 meter because of his shoes....and that makes him a cheater? i mean im sure his shoes helped
I DONT CARE IF YOURE 260 POUNDS OF MUSCLE IF YOU GET ME ANGRY IM GONNA TRY TO BEAT YOU UP! im 6ft3in tall 180 pounds and im skinny but i wont be afraid of you just because youre big
@zippo7224 Little man with a pitbull spirit inside of you huh? Lol. I can respect that. But seriously, get some muscle onto your frame. I used to be 6'4'' at the same weight with your attitude but when I bulked up, strangely enough, I became more calm and wasn't worried about trying to poke my chest out and prove male dominance. You know why? Cause I realized that people will think twice when they see bulked up tall people like us. It's natural 4 people to have that reaction.
@SteroidsR4Legends i see hundreds of videos of roiders training and i didnt see anything special.just a normal routine..sometimes i do even harder workout and i m natural..
Markus Ruhl is the complete opposite of the "roid rage" stereotype that the media has tricked us into believing.
Also, I think this film should be show in High School health classes to properly educate students about steroid use through personal testimony and teach students to disregard the biased media.
lol... I've heard that asshole argument in gyms before. People don't seem to believe in roid rage... if you're already an asshole without roids, you'll just become a bigger asshole with roids. Or so they say...
look there is no such thing as roid rage. It matches your true personality. If your a laid back guy, you really dont give a f*ck when your on steroids. If your an asshole, you will be an even bigger asshole on steroids. I know from personal experience, I've seen steroid use, I work in the fitness industry
superpredatorr/steroidsR4losers...a pathetic little boy with an incredibly underdeveloped body most closely resembling that of a VERY sick prepubescent girl. This "person' is gutter trash from Turkey that wishes he were Greek and basically spens his days blowing dogs.
I think Roid Rage exists. I've personally never took steroids but when I was using BSN Axis HT (testosteron booster, but very legal) I noticed getting some non-based agression. It really isn't all fake. But it also makes the training better. I probably won't do it again because training should come from heart not from heavy supplements (in my humble opinion).
well being that I have done steroids and am apart of a fitness team that all uses performance enhancing substances... I can tell you first hand that roid rage is a myth. You can google all day, but real time experience will always 1up the internet. Just saying ;)
Im not talking about anger management... this is about roid rage. And if people already have anger issues, whats to say that steroids even played a part in anything.I dont think you really know what you are saying... Quality of steroids? Cmon... and how do you know that what you took "boosted your test levels?" Did you do a blood panel before and after you started taking the supplement?
You're welcome. Just don't cry about it or expect our healthcare system to save you from the damage you've done to your body 20 or 30 years from now...
20 to 30 yrs from now? You mean like how bad of shape sly is in? Or how about Calis governor? How about ronnie coleman? lmao where do you people get your facts from?
I know a guy who abused steroids 20 years ago who died in January. His heart exploded while he was working out and he died at the age of 41, leaving three little kids behind. That's where I get my facts from.
you get your facts from a guy that you knew that died of an exploding heart? And I thought books and studies were the way to go. Oddly enough, Vitamin C is proven to also have the same side effects as people claim steroids have. So if I drink orange juice am I at risk? lol. Steroids aside, its individuals like your self that create these wive tales, myths and urban legends to run rampant.
Its the same story over and over again - "I knew this guy..." "It happened to my friend..." There are clinics dedicated to applicating men with doses of testosterone as a form of therapy. Its called Hormone Replacement Therapy. And this guy that you knew could have been on something not even steroid related. Clenbuterol, DNP, Ephedrine are things that body builders take that have horrendous side effects if abused. And in turn, are not anabolic steroids.
@jposh707 LOL! You're either a fool or a child. have you ever read a single clinical study...about anything. It's not physically possible for a heart to explode. Take your exaggerated fairy tales elsewhere.
@jj128 I'm neither...and I'm sure you're not a doctor either. You are the one who's living a fairy tale by trying to justify taking something that's bad for your body and will screw you up eventually if you continue to use.
@paintballa069 "Dude," choices affect other people too. But I agree that if he has the desire to mess up his body he should go for it. Like I said in my first post, knock yourself out. Same with drink and drugs.
@takewhole true, but why do we need the respect of others. I am natural now, but I know I won't be in ten years. Staying natural is respected more by the general public, but alot of the reason it is respected more is because they do not have adequate education on steroids either. IMHO if you want to take them its your business, just be in a different division in whatever sport you do, so they playing field is still level.
Do the media just make steroids and their side effects to be way worse than they actually are just to discourage people from taking them, or are the side effects really that bad?
Inhibition of natural hormones, which means your body stops making natural testosterone, taking too much oral steroids can cause liver damage, Gynocomastia, which is the development of breasts in males, sterility in some. those are the main ones including the ones you listed, however roid rage is extremely rare.
I have alot of buddies that juice and I have too. I have never seen any roid rage. I have seen assholes become bigger assholes. Most people are not assholes I know that use them. They all seem just the same when on cycle with a little bigger ego or confidence. Violence though no that does not happen.
From my experience it is no necessary obvious but intellect is replaced with determination in a kind of cool way. It enacts a revenge process but the the emotion of revenge is replaced with blank determination. Very useful in sport. Not very good for performing intellectual tasks.
The result of messing around with ones very sensitive and personally profiled HPA axis is change. One can perfect their own HPA profile. with a little bit of work. Do people want their HPA profile set by a chemist ???
@DTR4IN same here man, i had to do this debate at school about steroids and i said it creates a better quality of life.. and everyone laughed at me HA there fuckin stupid
@prooc Keep believing what you are told lmao If they were such a huge issue why is there only 3 countries in the entire world they are illegal? Do you realize how many countries there are? Why did all of the agencies that congress called to testify when they made them illegal all say they should not be illegal? Why can't the serious risks you hear about be proved? Seriously do your research and think for yourself. Can you answer these questions? No I thought not lmfao--dumbass
No joke, in about 30-40 years, maybe even earlier, steroids will be genuinely accepted even by major sports associations. There won't be an asterisk for baseball's so called steroid era, theyre gonna move on.
Steroids are already legal. Your body and the body of everyone else is full of them. They are very important to mental and physical well being and are extremely important in times of stress.
Remember artificial steroids are poisons. The body makes its own steroids. Any benefit is caused by damaging the original function of the body.
As I was being secretly medicated my story is a little difficult to get the timing right on. From reading the info on this sight and other places I suspect the roid rage is part of the withdrawal cycle.
Three years after the last injection the rage problem is settling. Now to deal with the arthritis.
He was governor, after the was on the presidental campagin of physical fittness and education, after he was a movie star, after he was a low grade movie actor, after he was a pro bodybuilder in USA, after he was brought over from Germany by the Joe Weider to compete, after he w
Beer Rage ^^ great... :)
OverdriveGabber 1 month ago
this was a great doc!
jondough7777777 2 months ago
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@jondough7777777 I can use steroids because of these reasons:
1.Everyone uses steroids.
2.Everyone knows they use steroids.
3.You still have to workout.
4.Cigarettes,alcohol,etc. are worse.
5.Steroids are in meat.
steroidsRwonderful 2 months ago
that psychologist is awesome. i could listen to him all day. Harrison Pope
soopafeesh 3 months ago
Really wish I could find a clip of the scene with Dr. Harrison Pope and the action figures. I'd probably use the link frequently.
johnthejew 4 months ago
john romano is a really intelligent dude. I really liked how he phrases things and doesnt dick around trying to warp stuff.
dresendezz 4 months ago
2:05 Ron Paul?
ralatorre9 5 months ago
Alcohol---one of the worst, most destructive drugs on earth and it's 100% legal yet steroids and marijuana---both of which have proven, medical benefits---are illegal and will get you put in prison.
WTF is wrong with this picture folks?
soonerdave01 5 months ago 12
@soonerdave01
Odd, I know.
GokuMcDuck 2 weeks ago
Lui Marco sent me here, he also salutes you all over the world wherever you are.
SteelxInferno88 5 months ago 10
@SteelxInferno88 lui marco brother
bruceleefitness 5 months ago 3
i butt fuck yam and give u hemorrhoid rage !!!!!!!!!!
MmaNcovers 5 months ago
luiii
luljan 5 months ago 9
wtf why is this not in the movie! This would had been the best and most important part of it!
M1thotyn 5 months ago
Mark and Mike Bell blood work came back and it revealed they were showing negative signs of steroid abuse..they shouldn't have deleted that scene. Would've balanced the making of this documentary.
HybridD91 5 months ago
the depression some long-term steroid users get can also be explained pretty easily. testosterone when not fully utilized can convert to estrogen, which increases stress and since stress causes increases in cortisol production, your body stores more fat on top of that. why do you think long-term virgins are usually depressed and heavier?
PaulDenton14 6 months ago
duh, roid rage is real, just the term is exaggerated. it's as simple as this, large amounts of testosterone in the body leads to increased tendencies towards irritability or aggressiveness which can occasionally manifest itself in violent behavior, and steroids are intended to up your testosterone levels, so there ya go...but you have to take a lot of them for it to be severe.
PaulDenton14 6 months ago 6
people who don't take steroids are more likely to get roid rage...
WilliamTheSilverBack 7 months ago
I have more respect for Valentino Now than before for his straightforwardness and seeming honesty
SplinterCellFugitive 7 months ago
steroids can bring on psychosis!
champ20122 7 months ago
I work as a bouncer too, and alkohol is imo worse than steroids. Sometimes I wonder why alkohol is legalized. People get seriously fucked up on alkohol.
Markerer 8 months ago
@Markerer what the fuck is alkohol ?
SALVOTHESTONEDONE 8 months ago
Read about roids in a book on physco-pharmacology (drugs and the mind). Many experts including Dr Pope find roid rage in a minority of steroid users. Most stories I hear about them here in Europe seem to commies in the Olympics. One girl was given them without her knowledge in East Germany hammer throwing. She became so manly she had a dick fitted when the Soviets fell. Use in European football is rare apparently.
Paxification 8 months ago
That John Romano seems like an a-hole. Of course there is no such thing as roid rage, he's basically selling roids with his magazine.
TigerMeadows 9 months ago
I agree with the point on alcohol. Some people can take it, some people can't. All reactions to drugs are based on personal issues (or not).
Easyandy100 10 months ago
Politicians want to make supplements available ONLY thru a presciption...guess who benefits, and guess who is hurt, by this insane decision???!!!
GREATWHITE2 10 months ago
the rage is what insurance companies call "a pre-existing condition". It's not a magical solution add steroids, add water=asshole. IF they're an asshole when they drink or take roids...it's because they're an asshole
lapuzza1455 10 months ago 19
@lapuzza1455 exactly it'll just make you more of what you already are
wmontano8 10 months ago
@lapuzza1455 Everybody is an asshole. On steroids, off steroids, on beer off beer, on recreational drugs off recreational drugs. It dosent matter, we all have that asshole within yourself. Some people just lets the asshole be caged within for their entire life while others find they key and let the SOB out.
Its part of human nature
Dudelookslikeeylady 7 months ago
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@Dudelookslikeeylady STEROIDS are for PUSSYS!
I'm helping to expose the pussys that use steroids and other drugs!
Keep it clean!
steroidsR4pussys 7 months ago
Why are there good scenes like this taken out from the documentary?
And yeah, I watched the documentary n read his interviews, Greg Valentino is waaay smarter than he looks
kriegpaolo 10 months ago 52
@kriegpaolo yeah man, greg valentino is a great nice guy.
Awesome respect for him.
Nitszo1 7 months ago
@Nitszo1 looots of pplthink he is lying and he is on synthol. But Greg brought up two good points:
1. Tons of fucking synthol will make your arms not look like arms anymore
2. If synthol is what u need to get arms his size then why arent there more ppl walking around with arms his size
(I am not oblivious to his steroid use, but I think he has a case in regards to synthol)
kriegpaolo 7 months ago
@kriegpaolo looots of pplthink he is lying and he is on synthol. But Greg brought up two good points:
1. Tons of fucking synthol will make your arms not look like arms anymore
2. If synthol is what u need to get arms his size then why arent there more ppl walking around with arms his size
(I am not oblivious to his steroid use, but I think he has a case in regards to synthol)
kriegpaolo 7 months ago
@kriegpaolo he is atcully not as dumb as he looks. No oil floating up to his brain apperantly!
Dudelookslikeeylady 7 months ago
@kriegpaolo i think it's just consistency, although its a good piece, sometimes you got to trim the fat lol .. he covered a lot of topics in the documentary and I bet he wanted a fair balance of the subjects...
RickRomo 7 months ago
when someone says people who take roids have roid rage is literally like saying ALL gay people will go into a public place such as a park and they will begin to take their clothes off and just start fucking each other in the asses. thats the comparison. like if you agree.
Knuckledragger80 10 months ago
One thing to note is that these steroids are based on chemicals produced in the body already one could say most men are on them. I believe that testosterone though can be linked to aggression. Is there is no proven link between testosterone and increased aggression why do we bother to cut off our dog's "nads" to make them calmer.
Paxification 11 months ago
@Paxification True......been there......but I controlled it before and I control it now. If your a loose cannon before, you'll be a looser cannon while on. We've all seen alot of guys not taking steroids lose it. I used to think it was a terrible thing. I won a coulple National Championships in D1 football. Most of my buddies were juicing and I didn't. Most went to the NFL. I didn't. In hind site I would have juiced no doubt. Never saw any change in their behavior.
sendittobryce 8 months ago
I become a major asshole when I occasionally get up that jacked up angry testosterone feeling(I'm a teen). I can;t even imagine how much of a jerk I would be if I took up steroids. Probably be in jail.
toby099 1 year ago
@toby099 Dude I'm in college and I still have anger issues. I don't need steroids. In fact, I take my anger to the gym and guys there have personally pulled me off to the side and asked me if I was taking steroids due to how angry I looked and how hard and heavy I was lifting. I honestly told them no I wasn't on steroids and the shocked look on their faces are priceless every single time. Don't know how else to let the anger go.
highroller454 1 year ago
@toby099 me fucking too
timmytebow15 11 months ago
steroids are not dangerous, we in america are ignorant to the facts about steroids and buy into media hype. steroid ABUSE is dangerous and can be harmful to the body. ever wonder why steroids are not illegal in over 90% of europe, not illegal in cananda, not illegal in central and south america, mexico, africa, middel east, china , russia, japan, etc. think about it.....
rocko3927 1 year ago
@rocko3927 yep that's true i live in Aruba..i see steroids everyday at the gym 100% ligal here:)
boekhoudt 1 year ago
that is such a one sided argument. Is the whole movie like this
kormastas 1 year ago
@kormastas well it is slightly and thats cus the pros of steroids easily outweigh the cons and thats why so many people take them
xXJeReMiAhXx99 1 year ago
like if you think chris bell looks like chris benoit.
dvfb76 1 year ago
lets see 1 case proven that steroids are the DIRECT cause of death to any individual?
then
lets see how many cases there are where alcohol or even nicotine are the DIRECT cause of death to any individual?
also
how many of millions broken homes/loss of jobs/screwed up lives bc of alcohol? and compare that to the amount due to steriods?
oh and by pumping testosterone (hormone) in a male how is that different from pumping estrogen (hormone) "the pill" into females? just curious. talk about rage!
brandtfleming 1 year ago
ALCOHOL.. NOw thats a society wrecker!!!
jernmyre 1 year ago 2
Interesting...thanks guys,
EDWARD8478 1 year ago
This was a critical scene. Why would they delete this?
insatiablebloom 1 year ago 2
bullshit, steroids can turn normal anger into full blown uncontrollable rage, but they won't tell you this
ItalianWarrior777 1 year ago
@ItalianWarrior777
can you prove this?
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago
@kettlebellconvert yes , this is very easy to prove. First of all, some people are naturally more prone to anger, because of different reasons, like genetics, environmental reasons, etc, you take someone who never gets angry, give him steroids and he might be OK, however, you take someone who gets mad easily, give him steroids, and you create a monster. Try taking pro-hormones, and see what I mean
ItalianWarrior777 1 year ago
@ItalianWarrior777
you have theorized- this is not proving. in fact, its on the the opposite end of the process.
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago
@kettlebellconvert most experts would say that if you have anger issues/psychological issues, you must stay away from steroids/pro-hormones
ItalianWarrior777 1 year ago
@ItalianWarrior777
perhaps a wise move, but "experts" say this because...? any more profound reasons than you or me saying "gee, it might make the angry guy angrier..."
kettlebellconvert 1 year ago
Why listen to anti-steroid spammers and mistakes of god like steroidsR4 and stuperpredatorr? Check steroidTRUTH channel for the honest TRUTH about the positive effects of anabolic steroids.
Always ThumbsDown and hit "Spam" on all SteroidsR4/stuperpredatorr and their girls friends posts.
steroidTRUTH 1 year ago
I have never heard a doctor talking bad about steroids.
They are the one that should know the true nature of AAS, and THEY praise it.
FreddoX1 1 year ago
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great movie,, one of the best docs out there
shortywarn 1 year ago
@BrainStorm88 Because dosing is regulated.. You'll hear a big deal about people who take large amounts of anything.
Timmycoo 1 year ago
Why hasn't there ever been a double-blind study? That's amazing to me. All these negative claims being made...and people's careers have been ruined--and yet there's not been double-blind studies?! Tell me that's not so....
starlightbeing 1 year ago
@starlightbeing Who would fund it? Pharma has friends in high places I'm sure would be against such studies.
Timmycoo 1 year ago
i don't know if steroids cause roid rage or not, but they definitely turn you into a douche bag
slamminhole69 1 year ago
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Steroids make you ruin everyone elses lifes including your own!
SteroidsR4WEAKPEOPLE 1 year ago
@SteroidsR4WEAKPEOPLE
judging by your username, I'm guessing you've never taken steroids or have bothered to learn about them. your ignorant post is a paragon of why unintelligent and uninformed people like yourself give steroids a bad name when they are nowhere near as bad as the media or ignorant people like you portray them to be.
LoweJoe 1 year ago
this is 100% nonsense ... if you have hormones shooting up your butt .. the first thing gonig to be affected is your mood and your brain... your brain is the center for most changes in your body and it reacts like national guard for you rbody and will react to hormones such as test and otehr homrmonal stuff happening arround it.
I have doctor telling me about steroids patients using steroids only have anxiety, pshychosis, depression, and metnal unstabilty .. and alot of rage
domestic violence
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk the fact is even normal people hide domestic and general vioence they do.. people arround them priotect them by bot telling.
I can almost gurantee to you that steroids users most likely end up abusing it cause they want fast results.. and if in this world of medication if youthink testosterone is a mild and passive hormone your wrong.. EVEN NORMAL ammounts of test in males can cause vioelnce.. now we talk about nighmarish amounts of injections here.. what doyou expect? you stupid?
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk my message is for any youth or person who wants to get a confirmation that steroids is safe.. i SAY NO. look at aspartame its in all products it not safe
teh market will not tell you its 100% bad cause they want to make money from both sides , .. they make money of this documentary and of you .. byu giving mixed messages.. even the guy in the documentary loks huge and it gives you ideas
america THINK YOURSELF not media
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk Tell you the truth, a majority of Drs dont know shit about steroids. Most experinced user know way more about steroids then drs do. I know plenty of people who do roids and nobody gets angry. Its hyped up bullshit and drs will never recommened steroids that why its biased to ask drs about steroids. They will only tell you negative shit. Find a dr that has used steroids before and get their opinon
ludacris333 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk That isn't how science works. You can't simply say it's nonsense, you need to present testable data to support your argument. Otherwise it's pure speculation based on anecdotes. Some Dr.'s actually claim steroids don't work at all, so I take your statement with a grain of salt. Show me some data.
MrShane2369 1 year ago
@MrShane2369 well look at aspartame , science is also not an invincable ground where everyone dances on holy water...
let me tell you .. if you dont know how hormones affect a person in puberty then you shouldn't claim that steroids are better
as i mentioned i have doctors who had patience having these symptoms there are no denying it.
Puberty even can make people go ballistic since there are major changes inside the body.. no one can tell me steroids is milder.
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@MrShane2369 i have had many of professional trainers confirming this fact to me i dont care what a youtube video says..
normally peopl who claim steroids are safe are 1. those who sell it. 2. those who are using it and still ignore the sideeffets. 3. those who never used it
just go to my site and listen to mike mentzer and wisen up to the marketing world
you can say steroid is safe to "jo" who killed himself or someone else or worse
dont tell it to me.. go tell it to the parents and kids
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk "I have had many professional trainers confirm this fact" First of all, it isn't a fact because some trainer said so. I can find trainers who'd confirm the exact opposite. It's irrelevant.
"normally peopl who claim steroids are safe are 1. those who sell it. 2. those who are using it and still ignore the sideeffets. 3. those who never used it"
How could you possibly know this? Prove it or I'm calling bullshit.
MrShane2369 1 year ago
@MrShane2369 parents , kids, family, whifes who lost their loved ones to steroids and otehr drugs like that...
they dont NEED YOUR EVIDENCE or your testable DATA
testable data up where it dont shine .. look at all aspartame , sucralose , maiscyrup and all that unhealthy stuff...testable data is wroth 0 0 0 NOTHING compared to what people experience and see.
if i didnt see prob with this why would i complain
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk "testable data is wroth 0 0 0 NOTHING compared to what people experience and see." This is why your entire argument is a fallacy. Maybe if we are living in a fantasy world you'd have a good argument but here on earth, testable data is generally the deciding factor. Testable data is arguably the most important factor when making scientific determinations.
MrShane2369 1 year ago
@MrShane2369 why would i compian? i dont look bad i am happy with my physique so i dont get jelous .. i dont get paid anythiing to look after peoples health
i dont get anything else besides saying OPEN YOUR EYES UP
this is HORMONES we are talking about NOT VITAMINS not EVEN smoke or alcohole.. HORMONES
are one of many important functions in the body.. you think using so much of it will NOT DO YOU ANYTHING ... its so naiv and uneducated..
are you trying to fool yourself?
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk the fact of the matter is sadly no matter how much people proove that steroids are bad and cause mood swings there will be people who want to find an excuse for using it or tring it WHY because the rewards the fast rewards and shallow success .
IT wouldt make much difference EVEN if i found you a steroid user who got in problems cause you would only say "well he doesnt count"
TheRogueMonk 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk "IT wouldt make much difference EVEN if i found you a steroid user who got in problems cause you would only say "well he doesn't count" It would count for something, but I'd need you to prove there was a connection. I'm open to testable evidence, but I'm not interested in people making wild assertions and telling me I'm a moron for not taking their word for it. If I found enough to who believe unicorns cause cancer, does that make it true? Of course not. It's the same thing.
MrShane2369 1 year ago
@TheRogueMonk Smoking has testable data showing it causes severe bodily damage. Same with alcohol. None of that exists for steroids. All I'm suggesting is you make an informed decision based on empirical data, not wild speculation based on ignorance.
MrShane2369 1 year ago
im 1oo% natural.... cause i suffer from a genetic dissorder...my body produces loads of testosterone and if i dont work out i kinda experience roid rage, so i work out a lot to keep the testosterone count low...so i believe in roid rage...if i dont work out i experience it
lion198456 1 year ago
@lion198456 that is not gunna keep your testosterone low. working out will make your levels higher! your body naturally produces more test. during workouts
1ReaZon 1 year ago
@1ReaZon maybe so but at least when i workout i dont get mad at everything
lion198456 1 year ago
@lion198456 Dude if anything you just have a lot of energy and need to use that energy before the end of the day. Lifting weights only increase your testosterone.
ludacris333 1 year ago
That psychiatrist has an annoying fucking voice.
john0908c 1 year ago
Valentino is no fool at all
Class documentary
TheLinc09 1 year ago
I dont understand people who are negative towards steroids. Many people probably agree with me on this, Jay Cutler says you do whatever you need to do to win. If you take steroids and just sit there, nothing will happen, your not going to grow these massive biceps, yes steroids increase the ability of gaining mass and muscle. but thats like saying Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world and won the 100 meter because of his shoes....and that makes him a cheater? i mean im sure his shoes helped
Legolas1022 1 year ago
"The normal male testis manufactures between 50 and 75 milligrams of testosterone per week, M'kay..." - Mr. Garrison :O
vinkovci 1 year ago
I DONT CARE IF YOURE 260 POUNDS OF MUSCLE IF YOU GET ME ANGRY IM GONNA TRY TO BEAT YOU UP! im 6ft3in tall 180 pounds and im skinny but i wont be afraid of you just because youre big
zippo7224 1 year ago
@zippo7224 Little man with a pitbull spirit inside of you huh? Lol. I can respect that. But seriously, get some muscle onto your frame. I used to be 6'4'' at the same weight with your attitude but when I bulked up, strangely enough, I became more calm and wasn't worried about trying to poke my chest out and prove male dominance. You know why? Cause I realized that people will think twice when they see bulked up tall people like us. It's natural 4 people to have that reaction.
southoreast 1 year ago
juicing are for fags
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see my natural pic
superpredatorr 1 year ago
@superpredatorr that even sounds gay
mumpump 1 year ago
@mumpump steroids are for morons..natural is the only real way..natural is for warriors...see my pic for a natural
superpredatorr 1 year ago
@superpredatorr Natural is for mediocrity. Which you sure do seem to advocate.
SteroidsR4Legends 1 year ago 2
@SteroidsR4Legends i see hundreds of videos of roiders training and i didnt see anything special.just a normal routine..sometimes i do even harder workout and i m natural..
steroids are simply disgrace to bodybuilding
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see my pic for a natural
superpredatorr 1 year ago
@superpredatorr i noticed that too.Steroid users have the most sloppy-bad form in exercises.
MrMethadrine 7 months ago
@mumpump if he isn't gay... he is on the waiting list
apl40 1 year ago
@superpredatorr YOU ARE ALWAYS POSTING "SEE MY NATURAL PIC",WHERE IS THAT F$%67NG PICTURE???????? IN YOUR MIND!!!!
corporacionmonstruo 1 year ago
@corporacionmonstruo loooooooooool
ludacris333 1 year ago
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steroids not worth it..steroids are for epic failure
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see my natural pic
superpredatorr 1 year ago
Markus Ruhl is the complete opposite of the "roid rage" stereotype that the media has tricked us into believing.
Also, I think this film should be show in High School health classes to properly educate students about steroid use through personal testimony and teach students to disregard the biased media.
SteroidsR4Legends 1 year ago
why the hell didnt they leave this in....
crazycuddlyjesus 1 year ago
lol... I've heard that asshole argument in gyms before. People don't seem to believe in roid rage... if you're already an asshole without roids, you'll just become a bigger asshole with roids. Or so they say...
Elreypachuco 1 year ago
juicing is for pathetic lowlife bastards
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see my pic for a natural
superpredatorr 1 year ago
i used to know a guy that did steroids, and he even told me steroids makes you hot blooded and more volatile, so i think its true
chizzy555 1 year ago
look there is no such thing as roid rage. It matches your true personality. If your a laid back guy, you really dont give a f*ck when your on steroids. If your an asshole, you will be an even bigger asshole on steroids. I know from personal experience, I've seen steroid use, I work in the fitness industry
ChinguS321 1 year ago
steroids indirectly affect roid rage?
homeworksuks 1 year ago
Well, besides alc rage, road rage is surely real.
trakkaton 1 year ago
Very good point were the guys say beer rage, very true, I think the people who become aggressive with alcohol would become aggressive with steroids.
colbro100 1 year ago
@colbro100 Yes i agree, i guess it just depends on the certain individual and there behavior.
cmaldonado8 1 year ago
@BrainStorm88 steroids isn't a drug its just horomones
Vectic 1 year ago
@Vectic anything tht alters "noral" bodily functions is a drug
homeworksuks 1 year ago
alkohol is worse. ^^ hihi
bloodysnake9 1 year ago 31
@bloodysnake9
alcohol was jesus's drug of choice.
raahr 11 months ago
@raahr boooooo. Christ is the "crestus" which means anointed one, anointed with hemp oil.
ChaosSamurai1 11 months ago
Greg Vallentino actually seems to be pretty smart guy..
kinsag 1 year ago 139
@kinsag really smart guys tend to do really stupid things sometimes.
balinmar 1 year ago
@kinsag he is... a smart guy. hes only telling the truth**
GeneticFreak0920 1 year ago
@kinsag yeah i think he nailed it with what he said too haha
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JustSayNo2Steroids 1 year ago
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steroids are for weak cowards
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superpredatorr 1 year ago
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SteroidsR4RealMen 1 year ago
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whoever takes steroids is a weak and a loser
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superpredatorr 2 years ago
anyone who leaves comments on every bodybuilding video for people to view his little picture... "WOW" LOL! is a loser and has no life!
budspotz 1 year ago
i gurantee there stronger than u
hotsauce352 1 year ago
roid rage is real in some sort of way, not the maniacal type, but we get a little angry...
but off course statesmants like "steroids are safe, and all the side effects are reversible"
are like those food nutrition advertisements, "eating egg's everyday is healthy! (...) an advertise sponsored by Egg Company."
masondarko 2 years ago
Thats like compairing weed to crystal meth.
martinxlive5 2 years ago
nothing is bad for u. its all bout moderation!
Redrocket14 2 years ago
I think Roid Rage exists. I've personally never took steroids but when I was using BSN Axis HT (testosteron booster, but very legal) I noticed getting some non-based agression. It really isn't all fake. But it also makes the training better. I probably won't do it again because training should come from heart not from heavy supplements (in my humble opinion).
mcneuschris 2 years ago
@mcneuschris
LOL at you thinking BSN Axis HIT actually boost your test.
Batmanfan88il 1 year ago
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mcneuschris 1 year ago
lmao... I could see the connection. "ive never tried steroids..." and thats where the opinion ends lol.
ShaunMood 1 year ago
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mcneuschris 1 year ago
well being that I have done steroids and am apart of a fitness team that all uses performance enhancing substances... I can tell you first hand that roid rage is a myth. You can google all day, but real time experience will always 1up the internet. Just saying ;)
ShaunMood 1 year ago
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mcneuschris 1 year ago
Im not talking about anger management... this is about roid rage. And if people already have anger issues, whats to say that steroids even played a part in anything.I dont think you really know what you are saying... Quality of steroids? Cmon... and how do you know that what you took "boosted your test levels?" Did you do a blood panel before and after you started taking the supplement?
ShaunMood 1 year ago
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mcneuschris 1 year ago
OK well you're free to pop as many pills as you wan then. Knock yourself out.
jposh707 1 year ago
Well I dont take pills, but thanks :)
ShaunMood 1 year ago
You're welcome. Just don't cry about it or expect our healthcare system to save you from the damage you've done to your body 20 or 30 years from now...
jposh707 1 year ago
20 to 30 yrs from now? You mean like how bad of shape sly is in? Or how about Calis governor? How about ronnie coleman? lmao where do you people get your facts from?
ShaunMood 1 year ago
I know a guy who abused steroids 20 years ago who died in January. His heart exploded while he was working out and he died at the age of 41, leaving three little kids behind. That's where I get my facts from.
jposh707 1 year ago
you get your facts from a guy that you knew that died of an exploding heart? And I thought books and studies were the way to go. Oddly enough, Vitamin C is proven to also have the same side effects as people claim steroids have. So if I drink orange juice am I at risk? lol. Steroids aside, its individuals like your self that create these wive tales, myths and urban legends to run rampant.
ShaunMood 1 year ago
Its the same story over and over again - "I knew this guy..." "It happened to my friend..." There are clinics dedicated to applicating men with doses of testosterone as a form of therapy. Its called Hormone Replacement Therapy. And this guy that you knew could have been on something not even steroid related. Clenbuterol, DNP, Ephedrine are things that body builders take that have horrendous side effects if abused. And in turn, are not anabolic steroids.
ShaunMood 1 year ago
That has no evidence the steriods causes his death, so no your facts aren't very good.
TheRealExow2 1 year ago
@jposh707 LOL! You're either a fool or a child. have you ever read a single clinical study...about anything. It's not physically possible for a heart to explode. Take your exaggerated fairy tales elsewhere.
jj128 1 year ago
@jj128 I'm neither...and I'm sure you're not a doctor either. You are the one who's living a fairy tale by trying to justify taking something that's bad for your body and will screw you up eventually if you continue to use.
jposh707 1 year ago
@jposh707
dude everyone makes choices.. dnt judge ppl for their choices.....Do u ever think bout ppl that smoke or drink and the harm to their bodies?
paintballa069 1 year ago
@paintballa069 "Dude," choices affect other people too. But I agree that if he has the desire to mess up his body he should go for it. Like I said in my first post, knock yourself out. Same with drink and drugs.
treslowe79 1 year ago
@jposh707 the same system that allows porkers to choke down burgers and pizza on a daily basis. lets try to be objective here. . .
phaedruslive 1 year ago
its probably true to say steroids are safe if used properly and with knowledge but still staying natural is so much more respected
takewhole 2 years ago
@takewhole true, but why do we need the respect of others. I am natural now, but I know I won't be in ten years. Staying natural is respected more by the general public, but alot of the reason it is respected more is because they do not have adequate education on steroids either. IMHO if you want to take them its your business, just be in a different division in whatever sport you do, so they playing field is still level.
SquirtTribePride 2 years ago
Do the media just make steroids and their side effects to be way worse than they actually are just to discourage people from taking them, or are the side effects really that bad?
OriginalYTName 2 years ago
side effects can happen, but the media blows it way out of proportion
jbake9210 2 years ago 2
@jbake9210 Certain steroids make you rage hard, just taking test e + dbol like the majority of people won't make you rage.
08u235086349h08gh3 2 years ago
what are the other side affects of roids? apart from acne, possible aggression and the shrinking of your balls?
Shokeybutsi 2 years ago
Inhibition of natural hormones, which means your body stops making natural testosterone, taking too much oral steroids can cause liver damage, Gynocomastia, which is the development of breasts in males, sterility in some. those are the main ones including the ones you listed, however roid rage is extremely rare.
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PollyPocket1821 2 years ago 2
I have alot of buddies that juice and I have too. I have never seen any roid rage. I have seen assholes become bigger assholes. Most people are not assholes I know that use them. They all seem just the same when on cycle with a little bigger ego or confidence. Violence though no that does not happen.
lifterforlife1983 2 years ago 13
From my experience it is no necessary obvious but intellect is replaced with determination in a kind of cool way. It enacts a revenge process but the the emotion of revenge is replaced with blank determination. Very useful in sport. Not very good for performing intellectual tasks.
The result of messing around with ones very sensitive and personally profiled HPA axis is change. One can perfect their own HPA profile. with a little bit of work. Do people want their HPA profile set by a chemist ???
Steroidalized 2 years ago
@lifterforlife1983 ive done top quality gear and accually feel much better. ive never had any problems other then acne
DTR4IN 1 year ago
@DTR4IN same here man, i had to do this debate at school about steroids and i said it creates a better quality of life.. and everyone laughed at me HA there fuckin stupid
wildchild169 1 year ago
@lifterforlife1983 You're a liar if you're saying that shit. Of course there's roid rage dummy.
prooc 1 year ago
@prooc Keep believing what you are told lmao If they were such a huge issue why is there only 3 countries in the entire world they are illegal? Do you realize how many countries there are? Why did all of the agencies that congress called to testify when they made them illegal all say they should not be illegal? Why can't the serious risks you hear about be proved? Seriously do your research and think for yourself. Can you answer these questions? No I thought not lmfao--dumbass
lifterforlife1983 1 year ago
No joke, in about 30-40 years, maybe even earlier, steroids will be genuinely accepted even by major sports associations. There won't be an asterisk for baseball's so called steroid era, theyre gonna move on.
alexherrera007 2 years ago
when steroids is going to be legal?
lightningstorm86 2 years ago 4
Steroids are already legal. Your body and the body of everyone else is full of them. They are very important to mental and physical well being and are extremely important in times of stress.
Remember artificial steroids are poisons. The body makes its own steroids. Any benefit is caused by damaging the original function of the body.
Steroidalized 2 years ago
A note on the roid rage.
As I was being secretly medicated my story is a little difficult to get the timing right on. From reading the info on this sight and other places I suspect the roid rage is part of the withdrawal cycle.
Three years after the last injection the rage problem is settling. Now to deal with the arthritis.
Cheats never prosper.
Steroidalized 2 years ago
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steroidsR4losers 2 years ago
If by 'cheat' you mean steroid user, then you imply that Arnold Schwarzenegger never prospered.
JeanLouie1106 2 years ago
Arnold Schwarzenegger is famous for being an actor. Now he is a politician. What are you trying to say?
Steroidalized 2 years ago
He was governor, after the was on the presidental campagin of physical fittness and education, after he was a movie star, after he was a low grade movie actor, after he was a pro bodybuilder in USA, after he was brought over from Germany by the Joe Weider to compete, after he w