But... there are seven "students" in the room... how can you play heads up seven up?
And as a second point, I can't see myself putting up with that kind of shit, if I was a substitute, I would be one of those nightmare ones caring around a notebook and writing down names.
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@leesajade Its a game where the group of kids *ahem* puts their head down and their thumbs up. 7 people goes around and pressing down the thumb of heads down group. The goal is to guess who pressed down their thumbs.
see, Apple only has a a couple of years left since Jobs died. Like back in the early 1990s when Jobs was fired from Apple. Apple almost became extinct until Jobs was rehired. Now the company is heading towards extinction because of the death of job.
@kriszkrs And you and I both know how much the older versions sucked. I will say this however...Windows 7 isn't terrible, although I would never use it for anything other than gaming.
If you want an operating system that deals with legacy software intelligently, try out Solaris. It offers the ability to set up zones that each run an older version of the kernel, so you can run legacy hardware in an OS level virtualized environment. Its really cool.
@kriszkrs Anyhow, I take back most of what I said. You are clearly educated, and you are entitled to your opinion.
I guess the point I was trying to make was just that I feel without knowing the whole story about something...its hard to judge it. The reason Microsoft Windows is so flawed isn't necessary the current team of developers...its the legacy support issue. Every time they bring out a new OS, they have to build on top of the old version to maintain legacy support.
@kriszkrs Ah. A language major. Meine Deutsch ist nicht so gut...Ich kenne nur eine bisschen Deutsch. Ich habe Detsch nicht fur funf Jahre gesprechen...deine Englisch ist besser dann meine Deutsch. Das ist ja toll.
I know over 20 programming languages for what its worth.
@kriszkrs I am not trying to compare Windows and Mac though. In Solaris or any Linux distro, I can install whatever User Interface I want. I can choose between Gnome, KDE, or any number of other shells. But in Mac I am stuck using their interface. I just don't like it.
@kriszkrs Well at least we agree on something. What is your degree anyways? I won't poke fun. I honestly want to know. Other than your bad English (which isn't you fault), you seem intelligent. Also, ich spreche Deutsche auch.
@kriszkrs You are not listening to me. I LIKE OPEN BSD KERNEL! I said I do not like the User Interface for Mac OSX. Did I not make that clear several times? If I had a choice of User Interface on Macintosh, I might like it.
@kriszkrs And I realize you are talking about the OS. After all...a Mac is just a PC with a shiny anodized aluminum case. The operating system is the only thing that makes it special. Its just a shame that the only way to use said OS is to buy an overpriced PC that you can't upgrade or make a Hackintosh as a hacked version of OSX.
@kriszkrs Once again, we use Macintosh computers where I work (University of Texas Institute for Cyber Security). We have no PC's, only Macs. And I do not like them. I'm sorry this troubles you so much.
Also, I'm not waving my degree in the air like a banner. I was simply stating if you don't know anything about software or what goes into making it...then you are incapable of making such a judgement...well...without sounding like a total dumbass anyways.
@kriszkrs I guess if all I had going for me was that I was some teenage basement dweller who's mommy bought him a Macintosh for his Birthday, I would go out into public forums and insult people to make myself feel better too. But at least I would at least try to sound intelligent, rather than sounding like a whiny butt hurt faggot.
@kriszkrs Oh...and I highly doubt you installed Windows 100,000 times in 6 years (sound made up). Even back when I used Windows XP, I didn't have to reinstall it that often. Maybe you are just a fucktard who has no business using a computer in the first place? Macintosh makes computers accessible to the common man... I guess that makes you lackluster...average. But you act as if you are some great (pseudo)intellect...because you own a Mac.
@kriszkrs I use Solaris 11 personally (Open Indiana to be precise). I don't care for Microsoft either. Nor do I care for Mac OSX. We use Macs where I work, and I find the UI very confusing. Everything is a symbol...rather than a label. I will give Mac OSX one thing. OpenBSD is a pretty awesome kernel. However it doesn't change the fact that I hate the UI thats running on top of it. I will take Gnome or KDE over Mac OSX anyday.
So I suppose you can eat your words Mr. Internet Toughguy.
@kriszkrs Its not bad being an apple fanboy, but its bad to be one of them that makes up lies about another company or competitor to make apple seem better.
@kriszkrs I happen to be a programmer...I don't think someone who doesn't know anything about what he is dissing can possibly make a valid judgement. I think you are just an Apple Fanboy frankly.
@funnyamericans93 this was posted a week before his death so any disrespect was probably unintentional seeing the abundance of Apple products collegehumor uses
@ids5621 I'm sure the person knows what irony is. Its meant to be a joke. Geez. Get a sense of humor and stop trolling before you try to appear smart by trying to make another person look stupid. Also, people appear older and more mature if they DON'T use text talk.
I saw my aunts brother in that one :D
pappydapanda 21 hours ago
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pa pa pa pa power! that was my commercial. damn it terry crews, why?
Rocketceres 2 days ago
When you think about what's funny in class and then think about it in any other situation, and it's never funny.
aplledapplebees2 1 week ago
omg is that the actress who plays angelaa in Bones? at 1:01?
KingOfHeartsgg 1 week ago
And your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and your fired and...
MineMurphydog 1 week ago 2
so thats why apple sucks.
:l
LastKnife123 1 week ago 3
@johannesderspinner Lol that was the funniest
Teamwolf7777 1 week ago
That was so funny ;)
Teamwolf7777 1 week ago
funny.....
SungbinVideo77 2 weeks ago
Thats what it's like when ever we have a sub in one of my classes
ssroym 3 weeks ago
we should all show this to students to show them how they can be stupid.....
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wow... there a bunch of jerks
MRshmorg 1 month ago 4
okay! who threw the MacBook?! :-D
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if i were him, they would have those coffee mugs shoved up their butts
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bioniclefan1999 1 month ago
But... there are seven "students" in the room... how can you play heads up seven up?
And as a second point, I can't see myself putting up with that kind of shit, if I was a substitute, I would be one of those nightmare ones caring around a notebook and writing down names.
mehgamer1 1 month ago
I feel bad for sub teachers!
shellshock10 1 month ago 3
absolutly stupid
MonsieurSinan 1 month ago
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AviciHell 1 month ago
Heads up, seven up? I'm from England and I have NO clue what that is!
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I don't know what he said but it's looks like Heads Down, Thumbs Up... O.o
leesajade 1 month ago
@leesajade *watches vidio again*
Oh, yeah... I must be that.
Wait, why "seven" up?
FireFox666100 1 month ago
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FireFox666100 1 month ago
@FireFox666100
I have no clue O.o
leesajade 1 month ago
@leesajade Its a game where the group of kids *ahem* puts their head down and their thumbs up. 7 people goes around and pressing down the thumb of heads down group. The goal is to guess who pressed down their thumbs.
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@rubyia312
Yes, in England we have the game 'Heads Down, Thumbs Up' which is basically the same except for the Seven part, it's just 2 or 3. :)
leesajade 1 month ago
And they everyone shuts up when a game we used to play as first graders is mentioned
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You are all fired!!!
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Everyone at Apple are Fags, Everyone who buys Apple Products are rainbow eating douche bags.
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@ICEWOLFJMAN Whats wrong with eating rainbows?
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@ICEWOLFJMAN What's wrong with gay people and eating rainbows and shitting butterflies?
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@ICEWOLFJMAN ...thanks asshole, ipod classic, ipad 2 lol
rayne7echo 1 month ago
i love that game
nick95kala 1 month ago
best.. place.. to work..
TheFirstFailboat 1 month ago
@cowboyrich6 This guy..
ThePaytonBaker 1 month ago
who threw a macbook?
1993canadian 1 month ago in playlist Celebrities on CollegeHumor
Is that Angela from Bones?
Hannahmind 1 month ago in playlist Celebrities on CollegeHumor
@Hannahmind it does look like her
havinfungirl 1 month ago
right after the heads-up-seven-up game, they were all fired...
cowboyrich6 1 month ago
Reminds me exactly of grade school
snake10566 1 month ago
I thought that when he said lets play heads up 7up, that he was gonna pull out a gun an start shooting people :P
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The guy riding him and "who threw a MacBook" was the funniest lines ever.
MrVercettti 1 month ago
Wait is that the Guy from Harry's Law he is hillarious, love this guy.
MrVercettti 1 month ago
this is what happens to subsitutes in my skool
TheRealMafiaking98 1 month ago
SHOOTER MCGAVIN
FunnyFriendsAndStuff 1 month ago
I loved Steve and I found this amazingly funny!!!
999jimboy999 2 months ago
this is exactly what we do when my class has a substitute
robothotwing 2 months ago
Dudes this ain't funny!!
jimmy20097 2 months ago
my name is spongebob and she is boxxy you know her as boxxy
MrDevilsonic 2 months ago
@yourevilheroz thumbs up
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this is why they had to release the 4s instead of the iphone 5
xlxthief1 2 months ago
@xlxthief1 That explains everything!
pokeplay7 2 months ago
No quality ending :P
Mfilipcewicz 2 months ago
and they will regret it...
howhow54321 2 months ago
everyday at school...
simpsonelf2 2 months ago
I love heads up seven up! :D
TheChosenGal 2 months ago
poor thing. he's like a substitute teacher
MizzFknToxic 2 months ago
i kinda feel bad for any teacher who has to put up with this shit
captainblackjack123 2 months ago 218
@captainblackjack123 believe me... that's a lot of teachers.
Cab00v 1 month ago
@captainblackjack123 your talking about every substitute in america.
Zac213Minecraft 1 month ago
@Zac213Minecraft It happens in england as well.
TheUltraChimp 1 month ago
Of course in real life...they'd get fired like that lmao...
...feel bad for the teachers...
shadowpal2 2 months ago
lol Apple will go down hill from here :D
devilpizza123 2 months ago
I always felt sorry for these teachers...
sirdoodlebug219 2 months ago 146
this shows that Jobs was a TOTAL CHILD
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shadowpal2 2 months ago
I came here to watch something funny and read stupid comments about Windows vs Mac ... I accomplished both, so .. now I'm happy :)
beefcake0354 2 months ago
see, Apple only has a a couple of years left since Jobs died. Like back in the early 1990s when Jobs was fired from Apple. Apple almost became extinct until Jobs was rehired. Now the company is heading towards extinction because of the death of job.
ibprofin100 2 months ago
@ibprofin100
Cool story, bro.
randyortonfannumba1 2 months ago
but they only have 7 people... have fun with that game : /
erikthemagicalpanda 2 months ago
that was a fail game of heads up 7 up lol
TheTacoooo 2 months ago
@kriszkrs And you and I both know how much the older versions sucked. I will say this however...Windows 7 isn't terrible, although I would never use it for anything other than gaming.
If you want an operating system that deals with legacy software intelligently, try out Solaris. It offers the ability to set up zones that each run an older version of the kernel, so you can run legacy hardware in an OS level virtualized environment. Its really cool.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Anyhow, I take back most of what I said. You are clearly educated, and you are entitled to your opinion.
I guess the point I was trying to make was just that I feel without knowing the whole story about something...its hard to judge it. The reason Microsoft Windows is so flawed isn't necessary the current team of developers...its the legacy support issue. Every time they bring out a new OS, they have to build on top of the old version to maintain legacy support.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Ah. A language major. Meine Deutsch ist nicht so gut...Ich kenne nur eine bisschen Deutsch. Ich habe Detsch nicht fur funf Jahre gesprechen...deine Englisch ist besser dann meine Deutsch. Das ist ja toll.
I know over 20 programming languages for what its worth.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
This is like what happens to substitue teachers at my school...
AJSDawg 2 months ago
@kriszkrs I am not trying to compare Windows and Mac though. In Solaris or any Linux distro, I can install whatever User Interface I want. I can choose between Gnome, KDE, or any number of other shells. But in Mac I am stuck using their interface. I just don't like it.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Well at least we agree on something. What is your degree anyways? I won't poke fun. I honestly want to know. Other than your bad English (which isn't you fault), you seem intelligent. Also, ich spreche Deutsche auch.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs You are not listening to me. I LIKE OPEN BSD KERNEL! I said I do not like the User Interface for Mac OSX. Did I not make that clear several times? If I had a choice of User Interface on Macintosh, I might like it.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs I am 30 and I have a degree in Computer Science from the University of Texas.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs And I realize you are talking about the OS. After all...a Mac is just a PC with a shiny anodized aluminum case. The operating system is the only thing that makes it special. Its just a shame that the only way to use said OS is to buy an overpriced PC that you can't upgrade or make a Hackintosh as a hacked version of OSX.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Once again, we use Macintosh computers where I work (University of Texas Institute for Cyber Security). We have no PC's, only Macs. And I do not like them. I'm sorry this troubles you so much.
Also, I'm not waving my degree in the air like a banner. I was simply stating if you don't know anything about software or what goes into making it...then you are incapable of making such a judgement...well...without sounding like a total dumbass anyways.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Oh...let me guess...you have a liberal arts degree don't you?
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs Its hard to tell you are 26 years old. You certainly don't act like one. You act like an ignorant spoiled cunt.
And for someone with a degree...your grammar and spelling are terrible...just saying.
deusprogrammer 2 months ago
@kriszkrs I guess if all I had going for me was that I was some teenage basement dweller who's mommy bought him a Macintosh for his Birthday, I would go out into public forums and insult people to make myself feel better too. But at least I would at least try to sound intelligent, rather than sounding like a whiny butt hurt faggot.
deusprogrammer 3 months ago
@kriszkrs Oh...and I highly doubt you installed Windows 100,000 times in 6 years (sound made up). Even back when I used Windows XP, I didn't have to reinstall it that often. Maybe you are just a fucktard who has no business using a computer in the first place? Macintosh makes computers accessible to the common man... I guess that makes you lackluster...average. But you act as if you are some great (pseudo)intellect...because you own a Mac.
deusprogrammer 3 months ago
@kriszkrs I use Solaris 11 personally (Open Indiana to be precise). I don't care for Microsoft either. Nor do I care for Mac OSX. We use Macs where I work, and I find the UI very confusing. Everything is a symbol...rather than a label. I will give Mac OSX one thing. OpenBSD is a pretty awesome kernel. However it doesn't change the fact that I hate the UI thats running on top of it. I will take Gnome or KDE over Mac OSX anyday.
So I suppose you can eat your words Mr. Internet Toughguy.
deusprogrammer 3 months ago
@kriszkrs Its not bad being an apple fanboy, but its bad to be one of them that makes up lies about another company or competitor to make apple seem better.
loverofpie32 3 months ago
@kriszkrs I happen to be a programmer...I don't think someone who doesn't know anything about what he is dissing can possibly make a valid judgement. I think you are just an Apple Fanboy frankly.
deusprogrammer 3 months ago
Hey its Shooter McGavin from happy gilmore and the guy in superhero movie
DestroyerofWorlds10 3 months ago
@kriszkrs Do you work at Apple or Microsoft?
deusprogrammer 3 months ago
Shit
Sylux024 3 months ago
shooter mcgavin
bolex17 3 months ago
u fuckers how dare u
sidheart100 3 months ago
"Meanwhile at sony" Sony producer: Okay, who threw a PS4
spacemojo1 3 months ago
RIP Notch
nickfred74 3 months ago
He's like a substitute teacher.
bleiepro 3 months ago
@bleiepro nooooooooo
brightv01 3 months ago
He looks EXACTLY like Ryan Hansen. Google it. Exactly!
robertdevald 3 months ago
Shooter McGavin!
Harv3y8irdman 3 months ago
I feel bad for him....
spaghettiandlettuce 3 months ago
Tim made 749 accounts to hate this video
davvvideos 3 months ago 60
That was a weak farting noise!!
Jcubed368 3 months ago
"Who threw a MacBook?"
BChart3 3 months ago
Has any one noticed all the jokes against Steve Jobs lately? Isn't it a little.. early?
Danster547 3 months ago
Good god, I can't believe heads up 7up was that popular! awesome game, haha
markliederbach 3 months ago
I love college
jcb0112 3 months ago
i miss elementary school...
DerAggel 3 months ago
this is pretty much disrespectful to steve jobs. i love steve jobs.
funnyamericans93 3 months ago
@funnyamericans93 this was posted a week before his death so any disrespect was probably unintentional seeing the abundance of Apple products collegehumor uses
ZacEffron 3 months ago
@ZacEffron ah i see your point, and yea i agree, thanks
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MegaPanzers1 3 months ago
@MegaPanzers1 makes no sense, it isnt funny. FAIL!
theshinywolf 3 months ago
@theshinywolf oh god, sorry; i didnt even realize i wrote that; °-° man i thought i wrote steve jobs; at times it randomly happens :S
MegaPanzers1 3 months ago
At my college we each got to dry hump the poor sub who taught us for a day.
TheSorrowGear90 3 months ago
This is exactly like my class
thecalcium9 4 months ago 46
People at apple are such children
HazelnutOatmeal 4 months ago
Shooter McGavin from happy gilmore anyone?
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This ones gay
allnews365 4 months ago
Like!!
MacjoesXq 4 months ago
this video is stupid!!!!
0833909954 4 months ago
This just frustrated me. I get that it's meant to be a joke but I found it irritating.
biznatch7777 4 months ago
alright, who threw a macbook?!
katelynrules12345678 4 months ago
oh and by the way your all fired
bagleman100 4 months ago
who videotaped what my class and i do to a sub?
bobthecowrachg74 4 months ago
So much fun with Transcribe audio ON.
TheEmillimE 4 months ago
Funny video... It's about apple but you don't let other videos of yours watched on apple products... Such as iPhone and iPad
mpulzive 4 months ago
not funny at all nerds are nerds
IAmNotQuickScoper 4 months ago
Ironically, there's an apple ad on the right of this video.
AussieMozart 4 months ago
@AussieMozart hows that ironic? U don't know what irony is. Actually this is rather more straightforward :)
ids5621 4 months ago
@ids5621 I'm sure the person knows what irony is. Its meant to be a joke. Geez. Get a sense of humor and stop trolling before you try to appear smart by trying to make another person look stupid. Also, people appear older and more mature if they DON'T use text talk.
Redsunbomb 4 months ago
@ids5621 Text talk makes you look like a kid.
Redsunbomb 4 months ago
ehh... this one was not funny...:(
joeritter88 4 months ago
Y U no let people watch other of ur vids on iPad?!
sebjamin 4 months ago
@gamersean1
No... They knew that Steve retired a couple weeks before he died and that guy took his place....
aidannalex 4 months ago
Woah... Crazy de ja vu from jr. High years!! XD
happilyevarafter4eva 4 months ago
why is there spy cam in apple' s office?
warracer03 4 months ago
disrespectful
3liteX 4 months ago
@3liteX it came out before he died chillllllllll
iSayR0FL 4 months ago
@iSayR0FL disrespectful to the workers not steve.
3liteX 4 months ago
I lost it when the gut through a macbook!
SuperComputerdork 4 months ago
Okay, who threw a Mac Book?
AerHx 4 months ago 60
just like when a sub is in school
RatePage 4 months ago
OMFG did you guys know steve jobs was gonna die the timing is just uncanny
gamersean1 4 months ago
@gamersean1 When is anyones death uncanny?
jultuar 4 months ago
Like if you think St
P6Humour2 4 months ago
Now he's CEO because Steve Jobs died R.I.P
P6Humour2 4 months ago
@P6Humour2 he was made ceo before he died
Olso54 4 months ago
Aww poor Tim.
coolass222 4 months ago
Who threw a MacBook ??? lol
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FuelNano 4 months ago
Tim Cook's is gay
FuelNano 4 months ago
this is fucking stupid. in a business as pristine as apple, after the first 30 seconds all of those people would be looking for a job. Simple Fact.
megaman01001 4 months ago
hoooowww peculiarrr......
kierankd10 4 months ago
What the fuck? Can't any of you read? It's Tim Cook idiots.
MikeJones1989 4 months ago
Remember this vid came out like a month ago on CH web page.
G33K1001 4 months ago in playlist Más videos de collegehumor
its too bad that steve jobs is dead. this video makes it awkward.
MrNixon747 4 months ago
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This is how my teacher gets treated everyday xD
ZackeriiSim 4 months ago
Thumb Up If This Was Akward Watching After Steve Jobs Death :(
matejrules2 4 months ago
@matejrules2 y should i do that. is it because you want atention because your an attention whore
thewarmblanket 4 months ago in playlist More videos from collegehumor
RIP Billy Mays
JJmeth 4 months ago 24
R.I.P Steve :(
leow626569 4 months ago
@marcocinema why would they feel bad? they didnt insult steve or anything in any way...
fenwayfan37 4 months ago
RIP Steve Jobs you will be very missed
Embro15 4 months ago
It would have been cooler if he fired them all
ThePortalofawesome 4 months ago
ahhh... the average life of a substitute teacher
IDKan4 4 months ago 4
This is why they came out with the iPhone 4s instead of the iPhone 5
thefunkyworm1 4 months ago
I bet you guys feel bad now since Steve Jobs is dead 1955-2011 R.I.P
marcocinema 4 months ago
This is the first time I've seen this video, ever. I was surprised to find out it was posted way before Steve Jobs died.
RainingPeachRings 4 months ago
"Alright, who threw the Macbook?" SO funny!! Sad now that he's gone. RIP Steve Jobs.
sesmotherman 4 months ago
Not with that iPhone 4S...
KhashSter1R4N 4 months ago
Too soon but sooo Funny
ThekevHouse 4 months ago