And when I say Christians I meant the people that are that are descendents of "SLAVES" of that land and the BIBLE speak of --->Zechariah
8:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country; 8:8 And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness. GOD TALKS ABOUT THE SALVES THUR OUT THE BIBLE AND THEIR ENEMIES
The Muslims from North African to the Middle East you are the keepers of GOD land that is why he bless you with things the GENTILES, HEATHENS, and the SEED OF SATAN wants. GOD will be with you always, people dont know that their life is playing part of GOD claiming his land and the lives that are lost fighting for the land did not die in vain. I believe GOD do want his people Muslims and Christians to come together. He want us to respect each other and love each other like he love you. PEACE!
@ali27124 Allah is Satan and not Yahweh of the Holy Bible. Satan hates God's chosen people (jews) wants them destroyed, Islam wants the Jews destroyed. Genesis 12:3 Blessed are those who bless israel, cursed are those who curse Israel (Islam) Satan hides behind the name of Allah "the God" and tells muslims to kill jews, calls them Pigs Monkeys. Islam is the religion of Satan and we know see it. The Bible during muhammad is the same as the one today. Satan wants you to think its corrupt.
@nighthawk7878 I think like every religion we have good and bad people, not all muslims are evil but the problem is that they are being deceived by Satan The greatest deceiver, the father of lies and if they don't realize this their soul which is the most precious thing we have will be lost for ever. Let's pray for those good hearted muslims so they can find the truth.
@satancreatedallah Okay, but my point is, do we reach out to them by stating up front that "satan created allah"? No, that is not the best approach to reach out to people whom you want to reach. So, I suggest changing your handle to something more appealing if your goal is truly what it should be and that is to reach out to the non-radical segment. Most Muslims react to the vids I have put up. they are definitely going to react negatively to your handle.
@satancreatedallah - I guess you dont know ALLAH is GOD in the Arabic language, so you are saying "Satan created GOD" not good and you will eat those words some day.
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI I do not want to Know allah, yes allah means "the god" in arabic but , I mean BUT he is not YHWV of the Old and New Testament. Satan hides behind a generic name for god "allah" so that he can be worshipped and deceive... is allah the best of deceivers? according to your texts he is. did the angel in the cave pressed on muhammad so hard he felt distress? yes, Sahih al bukhari proves it, no angel of the True God does that, only demons.
@satancreatedallah - WHO??? First of all YAHSHUA is the Christian savor NOT Muslims or jews. I guess you dont know the story how the Christians disapointed YAHSHUA with their sinful ways after he help them to be release from Egypt. Remember back then Egyptian was just as the are now all shades of brown skin tone and the people from Canaan/ Palestine was able to blind in with the Egyptians. It was the Christians that fail GOD and still are doing it today just look they way they are living
@satancreatedallah - I remember the pastors of mega churches in the news for their sexual habits with members of their church, we see what's on CNN as well in Egypt and we see you are still breaking GOD law. GOD will contact his people and they'll know who they are when he do. It's a shame how people dont get to know a person they know nothing about only through the media and their government. All I can say is you never read the Quran and all this is your idea.
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI And so do I, Let these Pedophiles pay for their Sick Heads, The True God Yahweh will judge them like he judged Muhammad the Pedophile Prophet of Islam. Humans are not Perfect only the Holy like Jesus Christ, he never sinned, never had a 9 yr old bride, never started an army. I'm glad that these Priests don't say they did it in the name of GOD, like muhammad and followers who commit suicide to win 72 virgins in heaven and wine and young boys??? why boys.
@satancreatedallah - Oh! really now, you mean you dont want to put them in the same basket as the Muslims who you think that are EVIL?? You see as I said Christians and Catholics are just as EVIL and you can't point the finger at anyone because those who you think are ANGLES are just as EVIL. The CHRISTIANS and CATHOLICS SEXUAL ASSAULTS was SOARING EVERYWHERE all across the news for the WORLD to see. I wonder why are your feelings you have for the MUSLIMS are not the same for those AMERICANS??
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI Any Human can be touched by Satan and be Evil i.e. Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. But the difference is that Christians and Jews Know and Pray to the True God Yahweh as for Muslims they Pray to Satan who has deceived you as predicted, he is behind the name of allah. Everyone know that the News about atrocities are 98% done by your brothers in Islam... What do you earn from defending it, I don't approve those Christians and Jews who turn out to be evil.. 1% compare to 98%
@satancreatedallah You are not being a good witness for Judiasm or Christianity. Think about what you say. You are taking as if the Jehovah can't draw a Muslim to Himself--he absolutely can do that.
@nighthawk7878 I totally agree with you. Yahweh wants and loves all, but I think Its imperative that the truth about allah is out there so that humans are not seperated from the true God.
@satancreatedallah - Look if you read your Bible USA is the Harlot, I believe what in the book of REVELATION is true just look what is going on now and for years USA and its allies had been taking advantage of the people in the Arab World. USA had killed more innocent people there than they had killed in USA , how can you wrap your mind around that ALLAH is satan and USA is the ones that is doing most of the EVIL DEEDS all over the WORLD with Isaral on its side to help out.
@satancreatedallah - Americans dont believe in GOD look how they are living in sin, you got other nations to agree with you to go against the Arab man because he had been bless with gifts from GOD like Oil, Gas, Diamonds, Sapphire, Rubies, Gold and other Precious stones of Arab land. If you read the History of the Bible the jews stolen the identity of the Israelites which are YAHSHUA real chosen people and those jews thats in Israel now are Europeans "German jews." NEXT PAGE UP
@satancreatedallah - These two groups of heretics were beginning a corruption of Christianity which would eventually pervade the church for a thousand years, imposing an imagined apostolic succession and continuing priesthood, both of which would subjugate the ordinary people in the churches in a "Nicolaitan" hierarchy. As the false apostles were spoken of as "ministers of Satan" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15), so these false Jews had become--unknowingly perhaps--a synagogue of Satan.
@satancreatedallah - The Bible was found where?? let me answer this for you Canaan/Palestine, back then there were no white faces there in fact everyone were of color and YAHSHUA said his people loot like the Ethopians and that is in the Holy Bible and the people in Egypt also look like the Ethoipans which are called NUBIANS who are still in Egypt. The Europeans had lied, turn people against each other with lies like they are doing now today and BRAIN WASH them to believe them only.
@satancreatedallah - If I didnt know any better I would say white america admires the Muslims look at the movies that white america made about the Arabs "Arabian Nights, Cleopatra, Scorpian King, and cartoons Aladdin, The Mummies" the list can go on for years dont forget the travels to the Arab World. The Eruopean jews "Israelis" are claiming they were the slaves in Egypt LOL!..If you ask any Egyptians they'll say that is a lie because they are from Europe. Read the History of the Bible.
@satancreatedallah - How often do you read your Bible, do you understandthe history of the Bible?? The 3 Holy books that was written by GOD was Torah, Bible and Quran. The Roman Catholics are NOT of GOD here's my proof--> Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. NEXT PAGE UP TO GIVE YOU THE MEANING FROM THE BIBLE OF GOD
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI The quran is a product of Satan, don't try to tailgate and force people to accept muhammad. Do you think Yahweh will even look at muhammad to be a prophet? Dream On, God will never choose such a Murderer to represent his word.
@satancreatedallah - I hate to tell you this ALLAH is GOD and ALLAH is GOD in Arabic you dont have to use the word ALLAH because it's arabic but in english ALLAH is GOD and you cant get aroind it...it is what it is.
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI There's alot of words that mean god, Dios etc. But Allah is the moon god of the pagans that muhammad belonged to. Study and you will see. Tell me what historical book or Archaelogy finding can you refer me to show that the Kaba that supposely was built by Abraham existing before the 4th century... if you can prove it, shows that Islam is an invention of Satan to Deceive you. OH deceive who is the biggest of deceivers? allah..
@nighthawk7878 These books are not corrupt, there are just claims floating about that they are. Research and scholarship have found them to be very reliable.
Just study the grammar, the sentences of the Bible, you will note that majority of its verses are said by the writer, the historian, others are said by Jesus, So how can we accept that this Bible is from God? and besides there are many errors? So please STOP saying that Muhammad said that the Bible is authentic from the source, in fact he said that the Bible was refabricated again and again.
Yes that is true THE ORIGINAL ONE but it is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND NOW, PAUL CHANGED IT, THE WRITER OF THE BIBLES ARE IN QUESTION. How can you agree, The Gospel ACCORDING TO JOHN for example According to John? According to Luke? Matthew? etc? WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL?
i dont think your interpretation is that acurate. from what i have studied this verse indicates a punishment for people who take their religion as a joke or for people who cause problems for others. it says "compensation will not be accepted", meaning that you must recifiy your actions on earth as no reward or good will be acounted after death. may i ask where you got your translation or interpretation of the quran from??
I see where you get the interpretation that you listed, however, at least in the english, (i wish I knew what the Arabic states) that we, that could be anyone on earth, have no protector or intecessor but God Himself. So, I am not so sure that one can trust in their acts or deeds. What merit does that get you?
And forsake those who take their religion for a pastime and a jest, and whom the life of the world beguileth. Remind (mankind) hereby lest a soul be destroyed by what it earneth. It hath beside Allah no protecting ally nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who perish by their own deserts. For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved.
i still study at school, so RE is my main intake on christainity. however i do research alot on all religions in my spare time. so i know and am aware of other peoples religions before i debate with them
mansoor: I read in surah 6:70 remind hereby, let a soul should be given up to destruction for what it has earned; apart from GOD, it has no protector and no intercessor; though it offer any equivalent, it shall not be taken from it(the soul).
I have been shown that this means, beware lest you receive the destruction your sinful soul deserves because of what you have done. Outside of God, you have no hope of being saved—no protector and no one to intercede for you. Though your soul tries to offer something big, nothing is equivalent to what is necessary to save you. Nothing can save you but God. What do you think? Do you believe that is what that aya says?
no this is baised. sufis only live in single religioned countries e.i iran, turkey, saudi arabi. so you can judge their interactions with non muslims. all muslims ahve similiar approach to non muslims . there is no sufi teaching which says to be more peaceful to others people than other muslims
This is not a big deal to me one way or the other, but I am curious--did you get your understanding of sufism from your sunni mosque or from studying sufism.
their traditions e.i wearing woolen coats, always saying gods name, spinning around whilst praying ect. and yes i am sunni. yes i accept sufis as muslim. their core beliefs are the exact same as ours.
they believe it is very good to repeat gods name not out loud but keep it in their minds during the course of the day to help them purify their heart and to remind them that god is watching them so they should not sin.
I am reading a book now that says sufis are generally more peace-loving more open to interactions with non-muslims than other muslim groups. Do you agree? Why is that true or not true?
no i am not sufi. sufism is a slightly stricter islam branch. like methodism is in christainity. as different people interpret things differently sufi's though that this was the way intended by the prophet. it has no basic foundation on islamic traditions though which is proven. it was just and evolutuion like protestants where in christianity. muslims do not borrow from sufis rather it is the other way around.
i was refering to the general take on christainity not their followers. if you judge a religion on their followers, all religions will look nothing like what they actually are.
Are you Sufi? What is your take on Sufism? I am reading a book that states that 1/3 of muslim are either sufi or borrow some of the traditions of sufism.
7878, muslims onli protested because it is very insultive for anyone to draw God or his prophet. Undoubtable no one knows how god looks. But to draw such respective people with the comments they anotated them with was beyond being racist. this is why the muslims protested. on that danish drawing, our prophet is shown asking for more suicide bombers. could you image me making a poster with jesus asking for prostitutes, i would probably be sentenced to death.
The insulting things that people do or say cause me to see how lost we are. Also, we are living in a day of activist atheism. So, disrespect just brings home how fallen we are. I admit that I am fallen. I admit my sin to God. I believe I have forgiveness from him.
no muslims do not worship mohammed (pbuh) this idea is completely against islam and what our prophet has taught us. islam constantly stresses that only one god allah should be worshiped
786, thanks for your comment because you made me think. I saw a muslim-produced vid that "assumed" Jesus worshipped the Father because he prayed. To Christians view prayer as communion or communication. Yes, it can be worship. At this point I don't know if I can say some pray is not worship. I believe that some muslims worship Mohammed because they march & sometimes riot because someone made a cartoon image of him. Christians don't riot when cartoon is made of Jesus & we believe he is God.
Christians, Y argue?isn't it obvious that people are biased? Does God win souls by arguing and stating facts?No! Guys, we've got the Spirit of truth thats revealed all truth 2 us. I've known all the different Loves there are 2 know, yet none comes close 2 the Love of our Lord that gives us wow..what HE gives us!! people,come on and testify 2 the wonders of our Lord! these people need life n we offer a religious, intellectual stance. Gods so much more than that. I'm no1 special but God is!!!
you are sure right about that. See this vid on a youth leader in Hamas who heard "Love your enemies" It changed his life. He is in the USA now and loves Jesus. watch?v=AZeMjzrBOt4
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord(I.E christians), shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY." The Christians calling Jesus "Lord, Lord" NOT MUSLIMS...
Yes they say LORD LORD. Muslims don't call JESUS lord, only christians... very good, but now read the context - CHRISTIANS THAT BELIEVE IN JESUS, REPENT TO JESUS, PRAY TO JESUS, PROPHESISED OF JESUS, DONE GOOD WORKS FOR JESUS, CAST OUT DEVEILS FOR JESUS - nOT MUSLIMS - AND JESUS WILL SAY TO THESE "GOOD CHRISTIANS" DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY (a violation of right or duty) JESUS professes that those who call him lord and do good works in JESUS' name not ALLAHs name are wicked,christians
THE MIRACLE OF MIRACLES - THE SUNNI, SHIA AND BAHA'I ARE SECTS OF ISLAM BUT ALL READ THE SAME QURAN!! NOT REVISED EDITIONS!! MAN MADE ERROR EDITIONS!! DIFEERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER!! Now to finish didn't JESUS come down to reaffirm Moses Laws? To reinstate belief in GOD? WHY DID HE COME IF THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES WEREN'T CORRUPTED? THE SAME REASON MOHAMED WAS SENT - Your BIBLE says Matthew 15:9, Mark 7:7 - JESUS SAID "Howbeit in vain do they worship ME, teaching for doctrines the commandments of MEN"
On baha'i I just found: The Faith standing identified with the name of Bahá'u'lláh disclaims any intention to belittle any of the Prophets gone before Him, to whittle down any of their teachings, to obscure, however slightly, the radiance of their Revelations, to oust them from the hearts of their followers, to abrogate the fundamentals of their doctrines, to discard any of their revealed Books, or to suppress the legitimate aspirations of their adherents.
youtube would not let me put the web site but any method. I have been trying for 2 days to figure out how they detect the variations in listing a web site. Have not yet.
We can still discuss the Catholic or the 200 denominations of christianity, plus all the break aways like Jehovah's and Mormons - each with there own interpretation different from one another, BUT ARE ALL CALLED CHRISTIANS - The Quran, each and EVERY ARABIC QURAN IS IDENTICLE - NOT SIMILAR - EXACTLY THE SAME - MEMORIZED FROM IT'S REVELATION UNTIL NOW - UNALTERED, TRULY AUTHENTIC - NOT AUTHORED BY MAN BUT DICTATED BY ALLAH WORD FOR WORD - THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE.
Well, yes, because of the Caliph who destroyed all unlike manuscripts. Now we will never know what was in the original Qur'an because the manuscripts are gone.
For the Qur'an, you are putting your faith in those guys who wrote it down for Muhammad many years later, right, because we say Muhammad could not read or write. Then, you are putting your faith in the Caliph that had all the manuscripts he did not like destroyed so that there would be no variance. The reason he did that is that because by that time there were already much variance in the manuscripts of the Qur'an.
That is to say that there was no "Bad Influences" like say ... Paul, the murderer of innocent unarmed christian women and children... But he saw the light... right? Then he preaches against the Laws of Moses.. contradicting what Jesus said and did, but he is a saint... right? King James Version, Published in 1611, revised in 1615, 1629,1638,1762 then split into three... The RSV in 1946, revised in 1952 - NKJV 1982 then NRSV in 1989.. WHICH "REVISED EDITION" IS CORRECT?? NOW THAT'S ONLY THE K.J.V
The Bible composed as a book in 325 AD, that is to say 325 YEARS after JESUS SUPPOSEDLY DIED - Biblical Scholars claim that the first writing of the 4 Book Gospel plus Pauls letter occurred between 65 AD and 95 AD making the Authors between 85 - 115 years old, forgetful old men - Then compiled together as THE BIBLE between 200 - 300 years later - NOT MEMORIZED UNLIKE THE QURAN... AND YOU STILL BELIEVE THEY ARE WITHOUT ERROR? WITHOUT MISPELT WORDS? WITHOUT BAD GRAMMAR? WITHOUT CONTRADICTIONS?
I can't agree with this. We know the Old Testament-all of it not just Torah was assembled and settled well before Jesus arrived on the scene. Collections of the books we have today of NT were being circulated as early at 125 AD. A strategic creed was memorized and chanted/quoated from right after, 2 years or less, Jesus assended into heaven. I will quote it in the next post.
I Corinthians 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
The Bible claims, THOMAS REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT WAS JESUS IN BODILY FORM (ie NOT RESURECTED IN SPIRIT/ANGELISED LUKE 20:34-36 AND I Corinthians 15:42-44)... SO JESUS SAID TOUCH ME, POKE ME AND WHEN THOMAS DID, AND FELT AN "ALIVE" JESUS, NOT RESSURECTED - HE WAS SHOCKED AND AFRAID SAYING "MY LORD, MY GOD" JUST LIKE HUMANS TODAY WHEN THEY ARE FRIGHTENED SAY "OH MY GOD"! SO IF THOMAS REALLY CALLED JESUS LORD AND GOD, SO DOES A PERSON FRIGHTENED CALL THIER ATTACKER TO BE THIER LORD AND GOD!BLASPHEMY
like it or not, Not where does Jesus claim he is God!! No where does he claim to be worshiped!! No where does he order his followers to devote prayer or sacrifice to him!! But out of pride and Ignorance you call him God! Despite the fact that he worshiped God, That he said he ISN'T GOOD only God is GOOD... Rubbish? Yes it is...
He calls Himself the Son of Man many times, read Daniel 7 and see exactly what that means. Thomas worshiped Him as God and He did not reject that worship.
I have done my research on the authenticity of the Greek and that research continues. I don't find anything that convinces me now to worship this One who, according to the Qur'an, even, is near-stationed to the Father in heaven. So, they are distinct personages but neither person no less God. Have a great day contemplating His greatness.
Is it possible for any GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN TO BE HONEST? Surah 10:94 - THE WHOLE VERSE - "O People! if you have any doubt about what We have revealed regarding the end of earlier nations, ask the People Of The Book (Jews and Christians) whether the stories We have narrated are true or not. Whatever has been narrated in the Quran is all true." Thus ask those of the Torah and Bible about these narrations, see what they say, for some will believe and others deny - A fact until today -
"Maybe Once or TwicE accused the Jews.." - Well off the top of my head here is 5 statements made against the "Christians" False dieties and Belief -
The Holy Quran S.4 V.171, S.5 V.73, S.5 V.110, S61 V.6., S.4 V.157-158, and Yes, Mohamed was UNLETTERED, thus couldn't read the scriptures or write the Quran thus proving that ALLAH SENT THE QURAN TO MOHAMED AND ALL STATEMENTS AGAINST JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN FALSE CLAIMS OF ALLAH ALMIGHTY BEGOTTON SON - FALSEHOOD WILL ALWAYS PERISH!!
Yes i think I mentioned unlettered. But that is not a good thing don't you know? That means we have to put our faith in someone else to write down what he said was revealed much later. I say much later because it was oral for so long. Who finally wrote it down? How do we know they did it accurately? How do we know that it has been transmitted accurately since? How do we know that the Caliph burned the appropriate manuscripts when he burned then? I see issues here.
YES UNLETTERD, A PERFECT MIRACLE - so when the christians and the jews of the time accused Mohamed of writting the Quran with his hand, this claim is easily refuted because Mohamed was unletterd! Allah was knowledgable to what the "People of the BOOK" the Jews and christian manipulations would be! Yet, every single verse, blessed by Allah was memorized by Mohamed and 100's of his followers, not 12 disciples! Memorized word for word, verse for verse! unlike the BIBLE! a true Miracle unto mankind
Secondly, Galathians 5:2-4 Paul aka Saul (He change his name after deciding not to KILL ANY MORE CHRISTIANS!!) declares that "NOT TO BE CIRCUMCISED", Jesus was circumcised BUT PAUL DECLARES "Christ will be of no value to you" if you get circumcised, Plus the drinking of wine "Blood Of Christ" and pork are all against the scriptures of the old testiment - These three are sinful to Jews but not to christians... This is how YOU "Honour and Claim the Hebrew SCRIPTURES"!
Mohamed said "The INJEEL" translated to English is GOSPELL, or old english if you prefer GODSPELL - ie:The Books of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John that are foung in the Bible - Bible is derived from Byblos (Greek) which was derived from Papyrus, the sheets ancient Egyptians wrote on - Byblos in Greek means "Book", so for starters Mohamed never claimed the "Book" was from GOD, which Book do you think Mohamed refered to again?
First I don't know that I can respond to all these message.
I know the definition of injeel but I just looked at 10:94 and it did not say Torah, Zabur or Injeel. I believe I quoted that one in one of these vids. Did you look at part 2?
The revelation was: "question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. " Torah, Zabur, injeel and more scriptures were all before Muhammad. I say before Muhammad because the Qur'an did not exist at that time.
if you look at Surah 4:163-164, you will readily see that it covers much more than Torah, Zabur and injeel. So, this revelation is encouraging consultation of much more than Torah, Zabur and Injeel.
Also, I don't recall that through this revelation a specific book of the new testament was prohited. And since the Apostle Peter and the Holy Spirit were the main sources for Gospel of Mark, why would we cast out I and II Peter? No revelation through Muhammad did that.
Also the Apostle John wrote the Gospel of John. He also wrote I, II, and III John. He also wrote the Revelation. Why would they not be authoritative when the Gospel of John was authoritative.
What I get from the Qur'an is that all former scriptures are game, that is, relevant and authoritative.
Allah speaks in the HOLY QURAN OF THE "INJELL" IE GOSPELL - NOT THE BIBLE - THE GOSPEL IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS, THE BOOK OF JESUS, THE WORD OF JESUS- NOT FRAGMENTS OF WHAT JESUS SAID THROUGHOUT BOOKS OF OTHER FALLIBLE MEN LIKE MARK, MATTHEW, LUKE AND JOHN - SO EVEN THAT JOHNS BOOKS ARE THE BEST OF THE SO CALLED GOSPEL TODAY, HIS WORDS ARE FALLIBLE AND WITH ERROR BECAUSE HE IS MAN - YOU SAY JESUS IS PERFECT, HIS WORD IS PERFECT, THEN WERE IS THE PERFECT BOOK - LOST? STOLEN? MISPLACED? FOLLOW JESUS
The Holy Spirit. Are you joking? You want to use the Holy spirit as a concrete witness to Peter? You don't even know what the Holy Spirit is!! Anyway, Peter, the coward, that defiened Jesus 3 times! Denied HIS SO CALLED GOD 3 times! FLED AND FORSOOK JESUS! DIDN'T EVEN MAKE READY TO PICK UP THE SO CALLED BODY OF JESUS AFTER THE SO CALLED CRUCIFICTION!! THESE ARE YOUR CONCRETE POINTS OF AUTHORITY!!
muslim believe in all prophets include Moses and Jesus and all of their scriptures...and muslim all over the world believe in Allah and Muhammad is the last prophet. Koran is muslim book.
If you read the New Testament, you will see that Jesus is a prophet, yes; He predicted his death and resurrection. And he went through exactly what he predicted. The Old Testament had predicted this as well and it came true. However, Jesus did and said things that make him much more than a prophet. He is worshiped as Lord and as God on this earth now and then, when he lived.
Before I speak I just want to say that I have been studying different religions over the past 3 years. It was very common back in the day for people to refer to kings, and majesty as lord or god, as long as they didn't mistake them for the true god named Yahweh which was spoken about in the old testament. I see your christian so I just want to ask you. If god was the Father, the son, and the holy ghost, who was he praying to from earth asking why has thou forsaken me? Himself? Jesus is not god!
No one is in denial about the authenticity of the bible as part of being a muslim must include beleiving in the bibles divine origins... The only problem is that it has been changed and altered to suit the needs of various early administrations of the Christian Church... The bible as it was experienced during Christ' life was correct... The version we have now is the Remix... and what can I say? The original was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the remix... :)
My Rabb is Allaah the Supreme the Alpha the Omega the Bountiful the Merciful and the holder of all high praise and good names... Others know him as Jehovah, Eloah, etc... But to me he is known as Allaah... The lord who has blessed us with prophet's through his mercy from Adam all the way through to Muhammad (PBUH)... What I'm trying to say is it's obvious that Christianity isn't all someone's imagination... It's a devine scripture perverted by those who needed to consolidate power in Europe...
The "perverted" part is unproven. We have the authentic divine scriptures--both Hebrew and Greek. they are not perverted. That is imagined by someone in Islam. Nothing has been demonstrated by anyone.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, see the Revelation, 6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life...."
why power in europe? the bible people are black not white! so what point do u make? covenant made with isaac not ishmael and The Most High's name is YHWH not alaah or jehova or any over name the saviour name is YAHSHUA shua = saviour in hebrew
Not sure where you are coming from, so hard to give an answer. Were you responding to adoubler and responded to me by accident? I say that because he/she mentioned Europe and not I.
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI Muslims are enemies to everyone else, even muslims of other sects.
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And when I say Christians I meant the people that are that are descendents of "SLAVES" of that land and the BIBLE speak of --->Zechariah
8:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country; 8:8 And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness. GOD TALKS ABOUT THE SALVES THUR OUT THE BIBLE AND THEIR ENEMIES
MUSLIMS NOT THE ENEMY
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NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
The Muslims from North African to the Middle East you are the keepers of GOD land that is why he bless you with things the GENTILES, HEATHENS, and the SEED OF SATAN wants. GOD will be with you always, people dont know that their life is playing part of GOD claiming his land and the lives that are lost fighting for the land did not die in vain. I believe GOD do want his people Muslims and Christians to come together. He want us to respect each other and love each other like he love you. PEACE!
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
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NubianQueenNEFERTITI 11 months ago
@ali27124 Allah is Satan and not Yahweh of the Holy Bible. Satan hates God's chosen people (jews) wants them destroyed, Islam wants the Jews destroyed. Genesis 12:3 Blessed are those who bless israel, cursed are those who curse Israel (Islam) Satan hides behind the name of Allah "the God" and tells muslims to kill jews, calls them Pigs Monkeys. Islam is the religion of Satan and we know see it. The Bible during muhammad is the same as the one today. Satan wants you to think its corrupt.
satancreatedallah 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah Wow! what a handle. I don't think that handle makes for good interaction with Muslims. Was that your thought?
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
@nighthawk7878 I think like every religion we have good and bad people, not all muslims are evil but the problem is that they are being deceived by Satan The greatest deceiver, the father of lies and if they don't realize this their soul which is the most precious thing we have will be lost for ever. Let's pray for those good hearted muslims so they can find the truth.
satancreatedallah 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah Okay, but my point is, do we reach out to them by stating up front that "satan created allah"? No, that is not the best approach to reach out to people whom you want to reach. So, I suggest changing your handle to something more appealing if your goal is truly what it should be and that is to reach out to the non-radical segment. Most Muslims react to the vids I have put up. they are definitely going to react negatively to your handle.
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
@nighthawk7878 That's true. Thanks for the advice.
satancreatedallah 1 year ago
@satancreatedallah - I guess you dont know ALLAH is GOD in the Arabic language, so you are saying "Satan created GOD" not good and you will eat those words some day.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 11 months ago
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI I do not want to Know allah, yes allah means "the god" in arabic but , I mean BUT he is not YHWV of the Old and New Testament. Satan hides behind a generic name for god "allah" so that he can be worshipped and deceive... is allah the best of deceivers? according to your texts he is. did the angel in the cave pressed on muhammad so hard he felt distress? yes, Sahih al bukhari proves it, no angel of the True God does that, only demons.
satancreatedallah 11 months ago
@satancreatedallah - WHO??? First of all YAHSHUA is the Christian savor NOT Muslims or jews. I guess you dont know the story how the Christians disapointed YAHSHUA with their sinful ways after he help them to be release from Egypt. Remember back then Egyptian was just as the are now all shades of brown skin tone and the people from Canaan/ Palestine was able to blind in with the Egyptians. It was the Christians that fail GOD and still are doing it today just look they way they are living
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 11 months ago
@satancreatedallah - I remember the pastors of mega churches in the news for their sexual habits with members of their church, we see what's on CNN as well in Egypt and we see you are still breaking GOD law. GOD will contact his people and they'll know who they are when he do. It's a shame how people dont get to know a person they know nothing about only through the media and their government. All I can say is you never read the Quran and all this is your idea.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 11 months ago
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI And so do I, Let these Pedophiles pay for their Sick Heads, The True God Yahweh will judge them like he judged Muhammad the Pedophile Prophet of Islam. Humans are not Perfect only the Holy like Jesus Christ, he never sinned, never had a 9 yr old bride, never started an army. I'm glad that these Priests don't say they did it in the name of GOD, like muhammad and followers who commit suicide to win 72 virgins in heaven and wine and young boys??? why boys.
satancreatedallah 11 months ago
@satancreatedallah - Oh! really now, you mean you dont want to put them in the same basket as the Muslims who you think that are EVIL?? You see as I said Christians and Catholics are just as EVIL and you can't point the finger at anyone because those who you think are ANGLES are just as EVIL. The CHRISTIANS and CATHOLICS SEXUAL ASSAULTS was SOARING EVERYWHERE all across the news for the WORLD to see. I wonder why are your feelings you have for the MUSLIMS are not the same for those AMERICANS??
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI Any Human can be touched by Satan and be Evil i.e. Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. But the difference is that Christians and Jews Know and Pray to the True God Yahweh as for Muslims they Pray to Satan who has deceived you as predicted, he is behind the name of allah. Everyone know that the News about atrocities are 98% done by your brothers in Islam... What do you earn from defending it, I don't approve those Christians and Jews who turn out to be evil.. 1% compare to 98%
satancreatedallah 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah You are not being a good witness for Judiasm or Christianity. Think about what you say. You are taking as if the Jehovah can't draw a Muslim to Himself--he absolutely can do that.
nighthawk7878 10 months ago
@nighthawk7878 I totally agree with you. Yahweh wants and loves all, but I think Its imperative that the truth about allah is out there so that humans are not seperated from the true God.
satancreatedallah 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - Look if you read your Bible USA is the Harlot, I believe what in the book of REVELATION is true just look what is going on now and for years USA and its allies had been taking advantage of the people in the Arab World. USA had killed more innocent people there than they had killed in USA , how can you wrap your mind around that ALLAH is satan and USA is the ones that is doing most of the EVIL DEEDS all over the WORLD with Isaral on its side to help out.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - Americans dont believe in GOD look how they are living in sin, you got other nations to agree with you to go against the Arab man because he had been bless with gifts from GOD like Oil, Gas, Diamonds, Sapphire, Rubies, Gold and other Precious stones of Arab land. If you read the History of the Bible the jews stolen the identity of the Israelites which are YAHSHUA real chosen people and those jews thats in Israel now are Europeans "German jews." NEXT PAGE UP
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - These two groups of heretics were beginning a corruption of Christianity which would eventually pervade the church for a thousand years, imposing an imagined apostolic succession and continuing priesthood, both of which would subjugate the ordinary people in the churches in a "Nicolaitan" hierarchy. As the false apostles were spoken of as "ministers of Satan" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15), so these false Jews had become--unknowingly perhaps--a synagogue of Satan.
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NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - The Bible was found where?? let me answer this for you Canaan/Palestine, back then there were no white faces there in fact everyone were of color and YAHSHUA said his people loot like the Ethopians and that is in the Holy Bible and the people in Egypt also look like the Ethoipans which are called NUBIANS who are still in Egypt. The Europeans had lied, turn people against each other with lies like they are doing now today and BRAIN WASH them to believe them only.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - If I didnt know any better I would say white america admires the Muslims look at the movies that white america made about the Arabs "Arabian Nights, Cleopatra, Scorpian King, and cartoons Aladdin, The Mummies" the list can go on for years dont forget the travels to the Arab World. The Eruopean jews "Israelis" are claiming they were the slaves in Egypt LOL!..If you ask any Egyptians they'll say that is a lie because they are from Europe. Read the History of the Bible.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - How often do you read your Bible, do you understandthe history of the Bible?? The 3 Holy books that was written by GOD was Torah, Bible and Quran. The Roman Catholics are NOT of GOD here's my proof--> Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. NEXT PAGE UP TO GIVE YOU THE MEANING FROM THE BIBLE OF GOD
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 10 months ago
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI The quran is a product of Satan, don't try to tailgate and force people to accept muhammad. Do you think Yahweh will even look at muhammad to be a prophet? Dream On, God will never choose such a Murderer to represent his word.
satancreatedallah 10 months ago
@satancreatedallah - I hate to tell you this ALLAH is GOD and ALLAH is GOD in Arabic you dont have to use the word ALLAH because it's arabic but in english ALLAH is GOD and you cant get aroind it...it is what it is.
NubianQueenNEFERTITI 11 months ago
@NubianQueenNEFERTITI There's alot of words that mean god, Dios etc. But Allah is the moon god of the pagans that muhammad belonged to. Study and you will see. Tell me what historical book or Archaelogy finding can you refer me to show that the Kaba that supposely was built by Abraham existing before the 4th century... if you can prove it, shows that Islam is an invention of Satan to Deceive you. OH deceive who is the biggest of deceivers? allah..
satancreatedallah 11 months ago
@ali27124 Please read what the Qur'an says about Hebrew and Greek. If you do you will be amazed!!
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
@nighthawk7878 These books are not corrupt, there are just claims floating about that they are. Research and scholarship have found them to be very reliable.
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
Just study the grammar, the sentences of the Bible, you will note that majority of its verses are said by the writer, the historian, others are said by Jesus, So how can we accept that this Bible is from God? and besides there are many errors? So please STOP saying that Muhammad said that the Bible is authentic from the source, in fact he said that the Bible was refabricated again and again.
hdpagari 1 year ago
@hdpagari "he said Bible .. refabricated again and again" ? Where did he say that? Surah and verse please. I gave good verses in this video.
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
Yes that is true THE ORIGINAL ONE but it is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND NOW, PAUL CHANGED IT, THE WRITER OF THE BIBLES ARE IN QUESTION. How can you agree, The Gospel ACCORDING TO JOHN for example According to John? According to Luke? Matthew? etc? WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL?
hdpagari 1 year ago
@hdpagari How do you know what you said above? Who is saying these things?
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
@nighthawk7878 "according to" simply means "written by" "according to..." was ascribed later through archeology and textual criticism.
nighthawk7878 1 year ago
i dont think your interpretation is that acurate. from what i have studied this verse indicates a punishment for people who take their religion as a joke or for people who cause problems for others. it says "compensation will not be accepted", meaning that you must recifiy your actions on earth as no reward or good will be acounted after death. may i ask where you got your translation or interpretation of the quran from??
786mansoor786 2 years ago
I see where you get the interpretation that you listed, however, at least in the english, (i wish I knew what the Arabic states) that we, that could be anyone on earth, have no protector or intecessor but God Himself. So, I am not so sure that one can trust in their acts or deeds. What merit does that get you?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
the translation you have isn't simpliar to mine.
surah 6:70
And forsake those who take their religion for a pastime and a jest, and whom the life of the world beguileth. Remind (mankind) hereby lest a soul be destroyed by what it earneth. It hath beside Allah no protecting ally nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who perish by their own deserts. For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
So, do you believe that you can offer nothing to God that will be acceptable by Him? That is what both translation indicate.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
@nighthawk7878 if you say that coran say about you religion that is not corrupt .you must see this.
youtube.com/watch?v=llf3PHDn_eY
ali27124 1 year ago
i research all my learning from videos and internet research . i learn only my own faith from my imams and mosque
786mansoor786 2 years ago
I use the internet, yet but I use books too. Books are critiqued and examined much more than the internet.
Where have you learned about Jesus or Christianity?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
i still study at school, so RE is my main intake on christainity. however i do research alot on all religions in my spare time. so i know and am aware of other peoples religions before i debate with them
786mansoor786 2 years ago
What is RE?
Are you in UK? I ask that because you used the word "whilst" at one point.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
yes n RE means religious education. u have been studying for over 8 years as it has recently become compulsary
786mansoor786 2 years ago
mansoor: I read in surah 6:70 remind hereby, let a soul should be given up to destruction for what it has earned; apart from GOD, it has no protector and no intercessor; though it offer any equivalent, it shall not be taken from it(the soul).
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
I have been shown that this means, beware lest you receive the destruction your sinful soul deserves because of what you have done. Outside of God, you have no hope of being saved—no protector and no one to intercede for you. Though your soul tries to offer something big, nothing is equivalent to what is necessary to save you. Nothing can save you but God. What do you think? Do you believe that is what that aya says?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
no this is baised. sufis only live in single religioned countries e.i iran, turkey, saudi arabi. so you can judge their interactions with non muslims. all muslims ahve similiar approach to non muslims . there is no sufi teaching which says to be more peaceful to others people than other muslims
786mansoor786 2 years ago
This is not a big deal to me one way or the other, but I am curious--did you get your understanding of sufism from your sunni mosque or from studying sufism.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
their traditions e.i wearing woolen coats, always saying gods name, spinning around whilst praying ect. and yes i am sunni. yes i accept sufis as muslim. their core beliefs are the exact same as ours.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
"always saying god's name" -- is that under their breathe, out loud....as they work and play or just in worship?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
they believe it is very good to repeat gods name not out loud but keep it in their minds during the course of the day to help them purify their heart and to remind them that god is watching them so they should not sin.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
I am reading a book now that says sufis are generally more peace-loving more open to interactions with non-muslims than other muslim groups. Do you agree? Why is that true or not true?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
no i am not sufi. sufism is a slightly stricter islam branch. like methodism is in christainity. as different people interpret things differently sufi's though that this was the way intended by the prophet. it has no basic foundation on islamic traditions though which is proven. it was just and evolutuion like protestants where in christianity. muslims do not borrow from sufis rather it is the other way around.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
Are you sunni?
"it has no foundation on islamic traditions" what does that mean?
Do you accept sufis as muslim?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Methodism is not necessarily strict. Methodism in the USA can be very liberal.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
i was refering to the general take on christainity not their followers. if you judge a religion on their followers, all religions will look nothing like what they actually are.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
r u an atheist nighthawk?
786mansoor786 2 years ago
No. I don't believe atheists talk to God.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Are you Sufi? What is your take on Sufism? I am reading a book that states that 1/3 of muslim are either sufi or borrow some of the traditions of sufism.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
7878, muslims onli protested because it is very insultive for anyone to draw God or his prophet. Undoubtable no one knows how god looks. But to draw such respective people with the comments they anotated them with was beyond being racist. this is why the muslims protested. on that danish drawing, our prophet is shown asking for more suicide bombers. could you image me making a poster with jesus asking for prostitutes, i would probably be sentenced to death.
786mansoor786 2 years ago
The insulting things that people do or say cause me to see how lost we are. Also, we are living in a day of activist atheism. So, disrespect just brings home how fallen we are. I admit that I am fallen. I admit my sin to God. I believe I have forgiveness from him.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
no muslims do not worship mohammed (pbuh) this idea is completely against islam and what our prophet has taught us. islam constantly stresses that only one god allah should be worshiped
786mansoor786 2 years ago
786, thanks for your comment because you made me think. I saw a muslim-produced vid that "assumed" Jesus worshipped the Father because he prayed. To Christians view prayer as communion or communication. Yes, it can be worship. At this point I don't know if I can say some pray is not worship. I believe that some muslims worship Mohammed because they march & sometimes riot because someone made a cartoon image of him. Christians don't riot when cartoon is made of Jesus & we believe he is God.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Dude allah means god muhammed wasn't the mosiah they worship muhammed pretty much though don't they?
goatmilk222 2 years ago
Yes, some do worship Mohammed and don't know it. They also worship "works" and don't know it.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Christians, Y argue?isn't it obvious that people are biased? Does God win souls by arguing and stating facts?No! Guys, we've got the Spirit of truth thats revealed all truth 2 us. I've known all the different Loves there are 2 know, yet none comes close 2 the Love of our Lord that gives us wow..what HE gives us!! people,come on and testify 2 the wonders of our Lord! these people need life n we offer a religious, intellectual stance. Gods so much more than that. I'm no1 special but God is!!!
disciplee123 2 years ago
you are sure right about that. See this vid on a youth leader in Hamas who heard "Love your enemies" It changed his life. He is in the USA now and loves Jesus. watch?v=AZeMjzrBOt4
Have a great day in the Lord!!!!!!!
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord(I.E christians), shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY." The Christians calling Jesus "Lord, Lord" NOT MUSLIMS...
civworx 3 years ago
Yes they say LORD LORD. Muslims don't call JESUS lord, only christians... very good, but now read the context - CHRISTIANS THAT BELIEVE IN JESUS, REPENT TO JESUS, PRAY TO JESUS, PROPHESISED OF JESUS, DONE GOOD WORKS FOR JESUS, CAST OUT DEVEILS FOR JESUS - nOT MUSLIMS - AND JESUS WILL SAY TO THESE "GOOD CHRISTIANS" DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY (a violation of right or duty) JESUS professes that those who call him lord and do good works in JESUS' name not ALLAHs name are wicked,christians
civworx 3 years ago
THE MIRACLE OF MIRACLES - THE SUNNI, SHIA AND BAHA'I ARE SECTS OF ISLAM BUT ALL READ THE SAME QURAN!! NOT REVISED EDITIONS!! MAN MADE ERROR EDITIONS!! DIFEERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER!! Now to finish didn't JESUS come down to reaffirm Moses Laws? To reinstate belief in GOD? WHY DID HE COME IF THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES WEREN'T CORRUPTED? THE SAME REASON MOHAMED WAS SENT - Your BIBLE says Matthew 15:9, Mark 7:7 - JESUS SAID "Howbeit in vain do they worship ME, teaching for doctrines the commandments of MEN"
civworx 3 years ago
On baha'i I just found: The Faith standing identified with the name of Bahá'u'lláh disclaims any intention to belittle any of the Prophets gone before Him, to whittle down any of their teachings, to obscure, however slightly, the radiance of their Revelations, to oust them from the hearts of their followers, to abrogate the fundamentals of their doctrines, to discard any of their revealed Books, or to suppress the legitimate aspirations of their adherents.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
And we know there are many, many more sects and much variation in belief. I know too many muslims to believe that all is so unified.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
youtube would not let me put the web site but any method. I have been trying for 2 days to figure out how they detect the variations in listing a web site. Have not yet.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
We can still discuss the Catholic or the 200 denominations of christianity, plus all the break aways like Jehovah's and Mormons - each with there own interpretation different from one another, BUT ARE ALL CALLED CHRISTIANS - The Quran, each and EVERY ARABIC QURAN IS IDENTICLE - NOT SIMILAR - EXACTLY THE SAME - MEMORIZED FROM IT'S REVELATION UNTIL NOW - UNALTERED, TRULY AUTHENTIC - NOT AUTHORED BY MAN BUT DICTATED BY ALLAH WORD FOR WORD - THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE.
civworx 3 years ago
And how many factions of Islam are there? As many as there among Christians and Jews I suppose. Factions are not all bad however.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
Well, yes, because of the Caliph who destroyed all unlike manuscripts. Now we will never know what was in the original Qur'an because the manuscripts are gone.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
For the Qur'an, you are putting your faith in those guys who wrote it down for Muhammad many years later, right, because we say Muhammad could not read or write. Then, you are putting your faith in the Caliph that had all the manuscripts he did not like destroyed so that there would be no variance. The reason he did that is that because by that time there were already much variance in the manuscripts of the Qur'an.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
That is to say that there was no "Bad Influences" like say ... Paul, the murderer of innocent unarmed christian women and children... But he saw the light... right? Then he preaches against the Laws of Moses.. contradicting what Jesus said and did, but he is a saint... right? King James Version, Published in 1611, revised in 1615, 1629,1638,1762 then split into three... The RSV in 1946, revised in 1952 - NKJV 1982 then NRSV in 1989.. WHICH "REVISED EDITION" IS CORRECT?? NOW THAT'S ONLY THE K.J.V
civworx 3 years ago
None of this is correct.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
The Bible composed as a book in 325 AD, that is to say 325 YEARS after JESUS SUPPOSEDLY DIED - Biblical Scholars claim that the first writing of the 4 Book Gospel plus Pauls letter occurred between 65 AD and 95 AD making the Authors between 85 - 115 years old, forgetful old men - Then compiled together as THE BIBLE between 200 - 300 years later - NOT MEMORIZED UNLIKE THE QURAN... AND YOU STILL BELIEVE THEY ARE WITHOUT ERROR? WITHOUT MISPELT WORDS? WITHOUT BAD GRAMMAR? WITHOUT CONTRADICTIONS?
civworx 3 years ago
I can't agree with this. We know the Old Testament-all of it not just Torah was assembled and settled well before Jesus arrived on the scene. Collections of the books we have today of NT were being circulated as early at 125 AD. A strategic creed was memorized and chanted/quoated from right after, 2 years or less, Jesus assended into heaven. I will quote it in the next post.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
I Corinthians 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
I Corinthians 15:7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.
They all believed he died. 500 + people saw him before he ascended.
Thomas was one of those, he saw the scars and called him Lord and God after touching His wounds.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
The Bible claims, THOMAS REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT WAS JESUS IN BODILY FORM (ie NOT RESURECTED IN SPIRIT/ANGELISED LUKE 20:34-36 AND I Corinthians 15:42-44)... SO JESUS SAID TOUCH ME, POKE ME AND WHEN THOMAS DID, AND FELT AN "ALIVE" JESUS, NOT RESSURECTED - HE WAS SHOCKED AND AFRAID SAYING "MY LORD, MY GOD" JUST LIKE HUMANS TODAY WHEN THEY ARE FRIGHTENED SAY "OH MY GOD"! SO IF THOMAS REALLY CALLED JESUS LORD AND GOD, SO DOES A PERSON FRIGHTENED CALL THIER ATTACKER TO BE THIER LORD AND GOD!BLASPHEMY
civworx 3 years ago
Rubbish?
sasunoosan 2 years ago
which part is the rub for you?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
I'm refering to Civworx!
Civworx is a good example of The Follower of Preverted Mooooham'mad religion!
sasunoosan 2 years ago
,,,,and he is a spammer when he gets started.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
like it or not, Not where does Jesus claim he is God!! No where does he claim to be worshiped!! No where does he order his followers to devote prayer or sacrifice to him!! But out of pride and Ignorance you call him God! Despite the fact that he worshiped God, That he said he ISN'T GOOD only God is GOOD... Rubbish? Yes it is...
civworx 2 years ago
He calls Himself the Son of Man many times, read Daniel 7 and see exactly what that means. Thomas worshiped Him as God and He did not reject that worship.
I have done my research on the authenticity of the Greek and that research continues. I don't find anything that convinces me now to worship this One who, according to the Qur'an, even, is near-stationed to the Father in heaven. So, they are distinct personages but neither person no less God. Have a great day contemplating His greatness.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
Is it possible for any GOD FEARING CHRISTIAN TO BE HONEST? Surah 10:94 - THE WHOLE VERSE - "O People! if you have any doubt about what We have revealed regarding the end of earlier nations, ask the People Of The Book (Jews and Christians) whether the stories We have narrated are true or not. Whatever has been narrated in the Quran is all true." Thus ask those of the Torah and Bible about these narrations, see what they say, for some will believe and others deny - A fact until today -
civworx 3 years ago
"Maybe Once or TwicE accused the Jews.." - Well off the top of my head here is 5 statements made against the "Christians" False dieties and Belief -
The Holy Quran S.4 V.171, S.5 V.73, S.5 V.110, S61 V.6., S.4 V.157-158, and Yes, Mohamed was UNLETTERED, thus couldn't read the scriptures or write the Quran thus proving that ALLAH SENT THE QURAN TO MOHAMED AND ALL STATEMENTS AGAINST JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN FALSE CLAIMS OF ALLAH ALMIGHTY BEGOTTON SON - FALSEHOOD WILL ALWAYS PERISH!!
civworx 3 years ago
Yes i think I mentioned unlettered. But that is not a good thing don't you know? That means we have to put our faith in someone else to write down what he said was revealed much later. I say much later because it was oral for so long. Who finally wrote it down? How do we know they did it accurately? How do we know that it has been transmitted accurately since? How do we know that the Caliph burned the appropriate manuscripts when he burned then? I see issues here.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
YES UNLETTERD, A PERFECT MIRACLE - so when the christians and the jews of the time accused Mohamed of writting the Quran with his hand, this claim is easily refuted because Mohamed was unletterd! Allah was knowledgable to what the "People of the BOOK" the Jews and christian manipulations would be! Yet, every single verse, blessed by Allah was memorized by Mohamed and 100's of his followers, not 12 disciples! Memorized word for word, verse for verse! unlike the BIBLE! a true Miracle unto mankind
civworx 3 years ago
Secondly, Galathians 5:2-4 Paul aka Saul (He change his name after deciding not to KILL ANY MORE CHRISTIANS!!) declares that "NOT TO BE CIRCUMCISED", Jesus was circumcised BUT PAUL DECLARES "Christ will be of no value to you" if you get circumcised, Plus the drinking of wine "Blood Of Christ" and pork are all against the scriptures of the old testiment - These three are sinful to Jews but not to christians... This is how YOU "Honour and Claim the Hebrew SCRIPTURES"!
civworx 3 years ago
Mohamed said "The INJEEL" translated to English is GOSPELL, or old english if you prefer GODSPELL - ie:The Books of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John that are foung in the Bible - Bible is derived from Byblos (Greek) which was derived from Papyrus, the sheets ancient Egyptians wrote on - Byblos in Greek means "Book", so for starters Mohamed never claimed the "Book" was from GOD, which Book do you think Mohamed refered to again?
civworx 3 years ago
First I don't know that I can respond to all these message.
I know the definition of injeel but I just looked at 10:94 and it did not say Torah, Zabur or Injeel. I believe I quoted that one in one of these vids. Did you look at part 2?
The revelation was: "question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. " Torah, Zabur, injeel and more scriptures were all before Muhammad. I say before Muhammad because the Qur'an did not exist at that time.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
if you look at Surah 4:163-164, you will readily see that it covers much more than Torah, Zabur and injeel. So, this revelation is encouraging consultation of much more than Torah, Zabur and Injeel.
Also, I don't recall that through this revelation a specific book of the new testament was prohited. And since the Apostle Peter and the Holy Spirit were the main sources for Gospel of Mark, why would we cast out I and II Peter? No revelation through Muhammad did that.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
Also the Apostle John wrote the Gospel of John. He also wrote I, II, and III John. He also wrote the Revelation. Why would they not be authoritative when the Gospel of John was authoritative.
What I get from the Qur'an is that all former scriptures are game, that is, relevant and authoritative.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
Allah speaks in the HOLY QURAN OF THE "INJELL" IE GOSPELL - NOT THE BIBLE - THE GOSPEL IS THE GOSPEL OF JESUS, THE BOOK OF JESUS, THE WORD OF JESUS- NOT FRAGMENTS OF WHAT JESUS SAID THROUGHOUT BOOKS OF OTHER FALLIBLE MEN LIKE MARK, MATTHEW, LUKE AND JOHN - SO EVEN THAT JOHNS BOOKS ARE THE BEST OF THE SO CALLED GOSPEL TODAY, HIS WORDS ARE FALLIBLE AND WITH ERROR BECAUSE HE IS MAN - YOU SAY JESUS IS PERFECT, HIS WORD IS PERFECT, THEN WERE IS THE PERFECT BOOK - LOST? STOLEN? MISPLACED? FOLLOW JESUS
civworx 3 years ago
The Holy Spirit. Are you joking? You want to use the Holy spirit as a concrete witness to Peter? You don't even know what the Holy Spirit is!! Anyway, Peter, the coward, that defiened Jesus 3 times! Denied HIS SO CALLED GOD 3 times! FLED AND FORSOOK JESUS! DIDN'T EVEN MAKE READY TO PICK UP THE SO CALLED BODY OF JESUS AFTER THE SO CALLED CRUCIFICTION!! THESE ARE YOUR CONCRETE POINTS OF AUTHORITY!!
civworx 3 years ago
the Quran is the LAST REVELATION!!! so We muslims Follow The most Relevant BOook
Icywar 3 years ago
Wow! So, did you listen to the vids and to what the Qur'an said about Torah , Zabur and Injil?
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
Jesus is the son of GOD ..Muhammud is a prophet...get it?
pentogram23 3 years ago
muslim believe in all prophets include Moses and Jesus and all of their scriptures...and muslim all over the world believe in Allah and Muhammad is the last prophet. Koran is muslim book.
anazar08 3 years ago
If you read the New Testament, you will see that Jesus is a prophet, yes; He predicted his death and resurrection. And he went through exactly what he predicted. The Old Testament had predicted this as well and it came true. However, Jesus did and said things that make him much more than a prophet. He is worshiped as Lord and as God on this earth now and then, when he lived.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
Before I speak I just want to say that I have been studying different religions over the past 3 years. It was very common back in the day for people to refer to kings, and majesty as lord or god, as long as they didn't mistake them for the true god named Yahweh which was spoken about in the old testament. I see your christian so I just want to ask you. If god was the Father, the son, and the holy ghost, who was he praying to from earth asking why has thou forsaken me? Himself? Jesus is not god!
Sandman2222 3 years ago
Jesus is the Son and the Son was speaking to the Father. For Jesus, pray is simply communication with His equal, The Father.
Please dive into the Greek New Testament if you want to know whether He is God or not.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
I encourage you to come to know Him. A start is to read the New Testament. The best place to start is the Gospel of John, the 4th Gospel.
Have a blessed and wonderful day!
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
No one is in denial about the authenticity of the bible as part of being a muslim must include beleiving in the bibles divine origins... The only problem is that it has been changed and altered to suit the needs of various early administrations of the Christian Church... The bible as it was experienced during Christ' life was correct... The version we have now is the Remix... and what can I say? The original was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the remix... :)
adoubler 3 years ago
So what is your rub? You did not mention Allah or Muhammad(MHRIP) so I am not sure what you are. What are you trying to say?
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
My Rabb is Allaah the Supreme the Alpha the Omega the Bountiful the Merciful and the holder of all high praise and good names... Others know him as Jehovah, Eloah, etc... But to me he is known as Allaah... The lord who has blessed us with prophet's through his mercy from Adam all the way through to Muhammad (PBUH)... What I'm trying to say is it's obvious that Christianity isn't all someone's imagination... It's a devine scripture perverted by those who needed to consolidate power in Europe...
adoubler 3 years ago 2
The "perverted" part is unproven. We have the authentic divine scriptures--both Hebrew and Greek. they are not perverted. That is imagined by someone in Islam. Nothing has been demonstrated by anyone.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, see the Revelation, 6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life...."
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
why power in europe? the bible people are black not white! so what point do u make? covenant made with isaac not ishmael and The Most High's name is YHWH not alaah or jehova or any over name the saviour name is YAHSHUA shua = saviour in hebrew
do your research
and come to the truth
thelightskin 3 years ago
Not sure where you are coming from, so hard to give an answer. Were you responding to adoubler and responded to me by accident? I say that because he/she mentioned Europe and not I.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago