As good as Calzaghe is his inside boxing....he has no inside boxing ,most European boxers don't ,it's an american stile Just look at the Ward vs Froch fight.But Ricky Hatton is a great European boxer with great inside boxing.
Who's this fucking muppet ? Calzaghe is retired, was undefeated, and this stupid prick wants to fight a retired boxer. This idiots gonna get knocked out soon, then lets see how cocky he is, cos he aint even a good boxer tbh.
All these people having a go at Carl are off your tits. Froch will fight ANYBODY out there, Whether he would have lost to Joe ain't the issue, when you fight the very best out there you are a credit to the sport. We need more Froch type fighters in boxing in my opinion, just look at the level of opposition he has fought consitantly in the last 6 fights or so. He's a credit to boxing.
froch you never would have gone 6 rounds with joe in his day ,you got lucky against an old taylor couldnt beat kessler when he was on the slide and the best you can do is fight in this super six circus . go on out to play now you silly boy itll soon be bed time
If you think Cobra couldn't beat Calzaghe then you don't watch boxing or your Welsh. Froch has the best chin in the business and would totally out power Calzaghe.Joe was a decent fighter in a period of time where Middleweight was lacking any stars, Froch came in on the up and when Joe was asked to fight someone who wasn't about to retire he wouldn't do it. Calzaghe= Pussy.
@Shirishama1 calzaghe ducked no one! if you look back u can find an interview with rjj and he says calzaghe wanted 2 fight him years ago but they couldnt come up with enough money for rjj! calzaghe would kill froch, calzaghe battered kessler 5 years ago then last year kessler beats froch! b-hop did not school him at all! at the end of the day if calzaghe was american he wud be 1 of the greatest super middle weights in the world!!
@jamesjimbo90 "calzaghe would kill froch". Come on now, that's just daft. Carl has a granite chin and can simply shrug off huge shots from powerful guys. Calzaghe is well known for his lack of punching power. Carl would walk through anything Joe could throw at him.
@wurble ok he wudnt kill him but he would box his head off! it wud be another lacy fight, froch comes foward calzaghe throws quick combos then gets out of the way! just like he did vs kessler who beat froch
@jamesjimbo90 I'm a fan of both the guys. But Calzaghe would never KO froch and could only ever win on points... that would mean having to go 12 rounds with an awkward, powerful and dangerous fighter who's always coming forward and is a fantastic counter puncher. I just don't think Joe could get through it. It'll never happen anyway, but it'd be an incredible fight. The Kessler Froch fight was amazing. Despite the judges scorecard, Kessler won it by the skin of his teeth IMO.
@wurble yeah ur right kessler did win by the skin of his teeth lol! i gotta give ya credit ur 1 of a few plp on here who actually knw wat there talking bout! wat bout froch vs ward then? personally i think ward on points but i wud love froch 2 ko him
@jamesjimbo90 It'll be a great fight. Of the times I've seen when Ward and Froch have come face to face Ward doesn't look like a man with confidence. I think he knows he's in for a war and most definitely not looking forward to it. That's a thing I like about Carl, he's got a true warrior mentality. Not the most graceful of fighters, but does throw some beautiful shots and combo's now and again. I think Carl will stop him in the closing rounds. Very much looking forward to the fight.
@lassedw i dont like Calzaghes boxing style, but you cant argue with the facts, he's unbeaten, and lets not forget Froch has been a mediocre and lucky fighter
@gapamu66 There's no such thing as a "lucky" fighter. And if there's one thing Carl isn't, it's mediocre. The guy pretty much always puts on a great show and gives fans their moneys worth.
@wurble Obviously you didnt watch the Taylor fight, fyi, Taylor walked into a "swipe" thrown by Froch, it was never a punch, he was out boxed and out skilled by Taylor until he made that mistake
@wurble im not a Froch hater, i just rate him as World class, he's 2 tier below that, just as Kessler proved when he out-classed and out-boxed him, EASILY
@gapamu66 So why bother asking me in the first place? I'm not a Froch "lover". I'm a fan of fighters who show some flair and heart. I like the way he fights and the fact that he'll take on anyone. He's one of the most exciting and ballsy fighters to come out of the UK in a long while. You seriously think the stoppage of Taylor in the dying seconds of the final round wasn't entertaining? The slug fest with Kessler? Battle with Pascal? Even the Americans around here admit he's great to watch.
@wurble He's only "great" to watch because he keeps his hands low,and people are hoping to see him get caught with a biggy, just like he did in the Kessler fight and consistently in the Taylor fight,unti he got lucky, im not a great lover of Calzaghe either but Froch is no Calzaghe or is he ever going to be nearly as good as him either. B-Hop would beat Froch and he's older than me , but dont get all antsi , this is what boxing and opinion is about
please carl go to his house and drag him out show everyone that he is a fake boxer who should be slapping women not boxing men my girlfriend slaps harder than joe please carl hasel him and hunt him down
Sorry Froch is even more jealous now he has lost to Kessler who was clearly beaten by Joe. Watch the Lacy, Jones, Eubank, Kessler fights and marvel at the skill, movement, angles, speed, endurance, power and intelligence. JC the undefeated 70% KO legend. Joe would destroy Bute or Ward. I like Froch but he's still got it all to do. Stay in the armchair Joe, the legend gets bigger every day.
calzaghe = punch a million times so the other guy dosen't get a punch in, and so win on points more often than not. A great endurance fighter? yes. An all time great? NO
Remember Froch u muppet that the guy that does all the talking ends up getting his ass wooped example: James Degale, David Haye, Zab Judah, and instead of dissing British fighters like Khan and Calzaghe why dont u support them and if u really wanna fight someone at Lightheavyweight hy dont u challenge guys like Bernard Hopkins.
@carbonfiberfan your delusional, Cal is a bum, lost to a 43yr old Hopkins and has been dodging fighters his whole career unless thier over 40...he goes down in boxing history as a slapping bum. no one ranks him
@carbonfiberfan haha, a lot of white people don't hate on Calzaghe cuz he's a white Brittish guy. No offense but its the truth.
Calzaghe is a coward its the truths everybody knows this and say it all the time, i like white people, i like Froch, Amir is one of a favs
there are so many fighters Calzaghe could of fought that where in his era its embarrassing, it has nothing to do with race, hes simply a joke in boxing.
@KILLUMINATI233 hmmm good point. I think he would give Calzaghe problems but I think Joe's movement and hand speed would be too much for him. Ward would eat too many punches when he tries to do his faint, duck in up and under smother technique. (WHich I find pretty innovative). But I dont see anyone in the super middleweight division beathing Ward now.
I honestly find it laughable when people call calzaghe a shit boxer and a coward I'm not a fan boy as I like Carl froch aswell but I must say calzaghe probably wouldn't knock him out but would damn sure win 10 or more of the rounds
OMG!!! Im just now seeing this!!!!!!! I didnt know Froch called out Calzaghe while he was in retirement!!!!! PLEASE JOE COME OUT OF RETIREMENT AND FIGHT FROCH AND BUTE!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! Those would be HUGE FIGHTS IN MY BOOK!!! Another great trilogy!!!!
frock knows he will lose even if joe comes out of retirement. frock good fighter but to slow 4 a classy fighter, just hope he trains 4 speed when he face ward or he lose on points really... pick up the pace frock
@welshicecream But for arguments sake, assuming Joe was at his best and they were to fight now...that's a tough one to call. Joe would no doubt at least take the early rounds (if not dominating them) and Froch would start to work his way into the fight, always remaining a danger by applying that constant pressure. The only thing i'd be willing to bet money on is that Froch is not stopped and some of the people here saying Froch would be KO'd are either dishonest are deuluded lol
@TheARMAProductions fair play mate.....completely agree with everything u said. Im a massive calzaghe fan (being a welsman) and would love to see the fight but think it probably should be left alone. If im being honest think it would go the distance like u said. they both warriors with good chins. The only thing is about froch i think his defence is weak with that left hand always dropped. never the less........both great fighters and would be hell of a fight.....
@welshicecre Yeh Froch's defence is very weak. Sometimes it's to set a trap but when a fighter gets on the inside you see Froch struggle and look almost amateurish at times. What Froch tends to so is hold his stance wide which makes it hard to get close to him (without taking punches anyway) but if a fighter can get through that then he has a good chance at dropping Froch. Hard to get KO but they can drop him. How old is Joe btw mate? I have no idea lol. Not that much older tha Froch I believe?
@TheARMAProductions i agree......in his last fight he took alot of right hands but didnt go down.....fair play he got a good chin. taylor put him down tho so ya never know...harder hitter could knock him out. calzaghe is 39 now.....so not too late when you look at the likes of hopkins etc....but i dont think he will now. froch - ward guna be a good fight...who u think for that?
just watched frochs recent fight...............he was good but yet again proved he's not even a touch on calzaghe. His defence is absolutely terrible. left arm is dropped 70% of the time. Only matter of time before someone takes big advantage of it.....
@welshicecream What, exactly, would Calzaghes slaps do to effect a win against Froch? Froch isn't some muscle man like Lacy, where he can slap and hold, slap and hold all night. You need to learn critical objective thinking, not silly nationalistic bias. Other than the slap feast against Kessler, and robbing BHop, who did he fight of worth since Eubank? No one. Froch's last 5 fights have been at a higher standard than JCs career.
@528hertz his slaps got him through a perfect career!! 47 - 0 speaks for itself. yes i am welsh but most of the boxing community would agree calzaghe would beat him, maybe not by knockout but def distance and i stand by my statement that frochs defence is awful. needs to tighten that right up. hopefully its not to late for froch v calzaghe if joe fancys it but can only see 1 winner.....jc all day.
@welshicecream No, they wouldn't agree. BTW 47-0 = Eubank ,43 bums, 2 pensioners and Kessler. Remember, Froch constantly called Joe out, but Joe avoided him. Yes, Frochs defence is poor, but his chin makes up for it. On the other hand Froch can bang far harder than Joe, as Taylor can confirm. Given Joe avoided Froch in Joes prime, there is no way he'll fight Froch in Frochs prime. If you weren't Welsh and thus biased, you'd have a more realistic opinion on this.
@528hertz well whether they were bums or not 47-0 you gota be doing sumin right....when froch was calling out joe he didnt deserve a fight against joe.......he had done nothing to get a chance at joe! you have to earn big fights and he hadnt earnt it..froch wanted a big money fight. never the less anyways.....rumour has it joe may make a come back.......hopefully he will and we will get the fight we want to see. yes im biased but only one winner..no one matches joes fitness and workrate
@welshicecream You really think Froch wanted to fight Calzaghe for a big pay day, the same excuse Hatton used to brush off Witter? Highly unlikely given Frochs character. I'd love to see them fight, but it isn't gonna happen. Its too risky for Calzaghe and his record. If it does happen, I'll put £500 straight away on a Froch win. Thats how confident I am, lol.
@528hertz yes i do....well at the time he was calling him out i think it was for the pay day! well only time will tell mate. calzaghe lives not to far from me....hope to see him running the roads again....you never know! ill take that bet......
@welshicecream Even tho i wanted to see a Froch Joe fight, I don't think it should happen now. Joe is retired where as Froch in on top of his game so it wouldn't be fair. If Froch were to win, genuine fight fans would then question if it was the same Joe C. That fight needed to happen a few years ago so people should lay off both fighters I think.
Froch had been doing this all through his early career, it's a good thing for him that calzaghe never took the fight, he'd of been embarrased Lacy style.
@croesrob lulz at the angry butt hurters here. This vid is old and was taken whilst Froch had just come off of a big win...give the guy a break! People can argue who they think would of won but one thing is true....Froch's last 5 fights do pwn Joe C entire career. Froch has the better resume altho that doesn't mean he would of beaten beat Joe. Styles are what makes fights and I think Joe would of been able to keep away whilst slapping him to death hehe
@MrRonnie28 I'm not bashing Joe here but do you really think the slapping Joe C would of 'sparked' Froch? LOL. Joe probably would of taken him on points but no way could a light fisted Joe C KO a steel chinned Froch. Just look at who Froch has fought and the punches he has taken That's just a stupid comment mate haha
@TheARMAProductions stupid comments are allowed on here but yes i agree points decision is a more likely outcome . i just dont like froch thats why i said that . pity the two never fought
@MrRonnie28 Yeah that fight would of been big here in the UK. You don't like Froch as a person or don't like him as a fighter? What I like about Froch is he's an old school fighter. Limited in terms of footwork compared to the likes of Joe but as tough as nails and will fight anyone anywhere (well...not so true now after Kessler and that dody score by that judge who was involved in the Oke robbery). It's fighters like Dirrell I can't stand. Trying to stink wins and stuff.
@MrRonnie28 As for my thoughts about Joe and this vid...fans from both sides need to forget about this silly vid. Froch made theses comments about 10 minutes after coming off of a big win. He just wanted to fight Joe because Joe was considered the best. Froch actually respects Joe but was trash talking him to try and get him to fight. We need more fighters like Froch. People who will bring it every time and don't act like the Dirrells (Harolds cough cough lol)
@TheARMAProductions I agree with that, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It's funny though, Calzaghe used to be a very big puncher until his hands gave out, much like Floyd mayweather.
Calzaghe doesn't need to prove himself, his boxing career and record does the talking, we all know calzaghe would make this twat look like a true amateur
Calzaghe would destroy froch, he would out box him for all 12 rounds, Calzaghe has supirior hand speed, he's better technically and defensively he's an all round better boxer, he had an good chin to only went down 3 times in 46 fights and the one against Jones was an illegal kd. and im not being biased, i like Froch hes exciting to watch and the mans a warrior but Calzaghe would wipe the floor with him !!!!!
@MrWFCFAN Froch fought better opponents than Calzaghe. At least Froch is fighting fighters in their prime. The only credible opponent that Calzaghe fought was Mikkel Kessler, other than that he fought a bunch of nobodies. Also, I hate people like you who assume that one fight determines the outcome of two different fights. George Foreman beat Fraizer and Norton who beat Ali, but then Ali beat Foreman. Go suck on that you dumbass.
And according to this logic (that Joe would destroy Froch because Froch lost only slightly to Kessler), this then means Froch would destroy Hopkins because he beat Pascal who then went onto beat Hopkins?
Now you see what I mean about styles making fights and why that was a stupoid comment :)
yeah right lol. Kessler was slightly gifted a decision against Froch altho Froch at least got to break his face (literally) end his career so haha. Kessler is a girl and would never fight Froch on neutral ground. He has done us all a favour and fairied out of the S6. The S6 is for real warrriors and not blaggers. Abes tried to blag it but felt the Cobra's power and couldn't be gifted a decision as it was on neutral territory and was an ass whoopin!
Let me explain the debate for all the simpletons out there as there's 3 of them:-
1) A boxers style
2) Would fighter A would beat fighter B?
3) A boxers resume
OK, no.1 is subjective so can be thrown out straight away. No.2 is closey related to no.3 altho not uniquely. Joe C had allot of talent and any decent fight fan will agree there. The issue with him is the fighters and times in their careers that he fought them. Would Joe of taken part in a tourny like the S6?
But Joe was never a puncher so I fail to see how he would destroy Froch. Would you like me to quote his KO ratio? :)
Joe was a slapper and night a bnager like Froch. Froch could take his shots all night. Froch has only been on the canvas once in his entire career and we have seen him take power shots to tyhe chin on many occasions. If you think Joe C was a hitter then we must be talking about a different Joe C lmao
@MrWFCFAN Anyone can say a fighter would destroy Froch but that we shouldn't find out lolz. Us fight fans want to see the fight because a fight fan is another word for someone who likes to watch boxing. I am not even arguing on who would win....I am owning Joe C's embarrassing resume. Froch has fough far better fighters in the last 3 years haha. I'm afraid that Joe C will always be remembered outside of Wales as a fighter who hid in a caravan in Wales and then came out to fight 2 40 years olds.
I see you avoided the issue of ducking Froch so I take it you understand that :) So ur logic if that because Kessker was given a slightly dubious decision against Froch and Joe C beat kess, therefore Joe C would automatically beat Froch? lol styles make fights and it's not as easy as that. Bottom line is that Joe C was a coward who ducked fighters. We can speculate on who would win all day long but the fact remains Joe was too scared to fight Froch where as Froch's resume pwns his :0
lol Froch had been calling out Joe for ages dude. I'm not going to say Froch would of beaten Joe altho facts are facts...Joe ducked Froch in the later stages of his career. This vid may of been after Joe retired altho Froch had been hunting him for ages and has been one of the most ducked fighters in the division. Froch fights anyone and on the trot. Just look at his last 5 opponents then compare that to Joe's entire carer lolz
He will never fight again ,( unless he blows his money ) which his father was on tv moaning about him not earning enough money from boxing ? Hmmm why was that ? You get the big money when you face the top boyz !!!
froch is just coming into his own.hes got 2 or 3 years left to really start to shake up the boxing world.he is exciting to watch,i for one will be tuning in to his fights!
@Ahmet1445 yeah Calzaghe's record doesn't look as good as Frochs on paper but Calzaghe smashed Kessler and Froch lost. He also beat Hopkins and Hopkins was just robbed of a decison against Pascal whom Froch struggled against.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out who the better fighter was and Calzaghe usually fought with a fcked up hand which he struggled with throughout his career.
i said before, you gotta add that he fought a past-prime Jones and Hopkins, or do you say that Jones and Hop were at their peaks whe they fought Joe? By the way, Froch-Kessler was a a very close decision and a fucking war.
Many think that Froch would loose on points but to say he doesn't deserve a fight with Joe is just ridiculous and smells of fear. Just look at Froch's last 5 fights...Pascal, Dirrell, Taylor, Kessler and AA. All top class elite fighters. Now look at Joe C's resume lmao. He beat Kessler which was good but waited until Bhop and Jones were old men.
Froch however fights them all and in their prime...
what a bum ill call kessler on him to give him a beating, calzaghe is on a different level to forch, froch better shut up before he really ticks calzaghe off, prick thinks hes sik got beaten down by a midget
yeah right...I bet Froch is really scared lol. Joe will never fight Froch and it will always be all talk dude. Anyway...i recommend you compare Froch's resume to Joe C's (and especially Khans lolz) before you start mouthing off.
Joe C and Khan have consitantly ducked fighters....
@29Gixxer ohh come on i guess your also a khan hater like froch is too mann, listen froch is rubbish, slow footwork, bad stamina, decent power and hardly any speed or head movement and khans still making more money then froch is beating him by the 6 digit figure he
@29Gixxer must be good when hes earning so much doe, hes fighting midana next if he loses then you can mouth off but if he wins then thats just proves he doesnt need to fight any bums like thaxton and murray who find it difficult to make it big cus of there wak boxing skills.
Be realistic...lets compae their last 5 fights....
Froch = Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler and AA.
Let's hear who Khans last 5 opponents were :0
Khan is just used to milk the Asian community out of their money. Khan has fought absaloutely nobody and won't even give Precott a rematch )Precot was beat by Mitchell too lol) as he knows he will get KTFO. Get real dude. Are you seriously telling us that Khan has fought top fighters like Froch?
U support Khan coz you're Muslim which is cool because I support Froch as he is British but let's be honest about things...Khan is ducking Presccot like how Joe C ducked Froch his entire career. Froch don't duck no one and will fight anybody anywhere. Unless you care to name me anyone Froch has ducked? When Khan starts fighting top fighters then come and talk about how shit Froch is. You may not like Froch's style but that's a mute point when he has fought & beat top fighters unlike Amir.
You can call me a Khan hater so as to avoid what I am saying all ya want buddy lol. Tell us who Khan has fought compared to Froch? With respect you only uspport Khan as he is Muslim, you hate on Froch (depsite his resume owning Khans and Joe c's) then you have the cheek to call me a Khan hater lol. Khan, as of yet has fought nobody. He coldn't even KO malignaggi where as old fatty hatton did it in his prime!
@Khan12078 I'm not hating on Khan bro. I used him as an example for you due to your username. All I am saying is take a look at who Khan, Froch and Joe C have fought & then try to tell me (with a straight face) that Khan or Joe C have a better resume than Froch :) Just coz a boxer is getting paid well, that doesn't make him a great. You judge a fighter based on who he has fought. Khan has a large Asian fanbase which is why they promote him over other fighters (and is why he has allot of haters)
You sure on that? Bhop seems to fight just about anyone. The dude is even calling out David Haye (same with Jones actually) lol.
I'm not going to argue that Froch would take Joe as i think Joe would slap his way to a victory there mate. My argument is that you can't deny that Froch' last 5 fights are something Joe would never do. I made this argument as you seem to thin Froch doesn't deserve a fight with Joe? Froch has done more than enough and that fight would be a classic.
45 bums...1 decent fighter in his prime. Keep in mind styles make fights. Joe struggled with Ried a little where as Froch demolished Ried (Ried may of been shot tho). This is why the fight needs to go ahead. There's still question marks over Joe like it or not (just look at all the comments on the forums),
Joe vs Froch...Fighter vs tactician....why wouldn't you wanna see it?
@29Gixxer ok good point put across, lets take a look malanaggi fights hatton actually gave him a 11 round stoppage just as khan did, Andreas Kotelnik who has beaten the likes of midana (rank 4 in junior walterwight divison) and devon alexandra (rank 3 in junior walterweight division). so he has fought tough opponents and dimitriy salita was ranked 3 in junior walterweight division before he got KOd by Khan. And Khans next opponent is Midana who has 29 wins and
i wouldn't want to bash on Khans opponents too much. I see you're point although look at Froch's last 5 fights man. He is literally fighting the very best. I was just addressing this to all the Froch haters out there. khan is still young so it's too early to judge him really but we can judge Joe now that he has retired.
For all the skill that Joe C had...he did duck fighters (allot of fighters do this tho).
@29Gixxer khan actually took this Midana fight to prove the criticz wrong saying he was afraid of power punchers, now there saying "oh well khans going to win because hes too slow" all of sudden it just irritates me as they will never be fufilled no matter who khan faces i bet you even if he beat the likes of mayweather a few years on form now teh accuse would be mayweathers too old, not saying your a critic but i undertsna dwhere you view point is :)
@29Gixxer khan actually took this Midana fight to prove the criticz wrong saying he was afraid of power punchers, now there saying "oh well khans going to win because hes too slow" all of sudden it just irritates me as they will never be fufilled no matter who khan faces i bet you even if he beat the likes of mayweather a few years on form now teh accuse would be mayweathers too old, not saying your a critic but i undertstand where you view point is :)
@networkspor After that fight I'm behind khan altho you need to keep in mind my comments were made 'before' he decided to fight a puncher for the first time in 3 years. U are correct tho mate. We should back all our fighters but that includes Froch too. Just look at his last 5 fights then tell me he doesn't deserve TV time or that others fight better :) Peeps who bash Froch just need to compare his opponents to all others which was why I had to put the Khan nuthugging Froch bashers straight!
I am no Khan hater. Now he has stepped up I am behind him it's just that if you come onto a thread bashing Froch and think Khan fights better...you will get laughed at and schooled lol.
Pascal, Taylor, Dirrel, Kessler and Abes...All in a row and within a shortish time of each other.
@29Gixxer 27 KOs the HARDEST puncher in the light walterwight division and would beat the likes of thaxton murray or anybody in that division just like he did with victor ortiz in the 4 round who was named the "next de la hoya" undefeated corley, he has 10 times harder punches then prescott so i dont think he really needs to give prescott a rematch if hes facing a much more difficult opponent Midana who has also KOd the likes of Willaim gonzales and silverio ortiz who have much more class then
@29Gixxer prescott and were championship meatrial only to be blown away by the likes of Midana. yes i know some of his fights were easy but that happens in everyones career Tysons, Pacquios and they actually strat fighting pros after 30 fights even hatton did he fighted Kostya Tszyu his first pro fight who was actually considered of being a overated boxer who had fought bums before he ws actually given recognition in his previous 3 fights.
why is it ppl call mayweather a "ducker" but calzaghe get's a pass? Mayweather's resume' is way better and far more extensive than Joe who only beat guys well after their prime.
@NextWorldApparel not true he beat Kessler and Lacy when both were undefeated and in their primes. As for Hopkins, he never seems to be past his prime. He beat Pavlik who is in his prime, granted it was at a higher weight class. i am a hispanic american and i appreciate what Calzaghe did and he came to america to face Hopkins and he beat him here.
Froch just wanted to fight Joe because Joe was the best in that division. Would people rather Froch get his fighters cherry picked for him like many fighters do these days? I can't believe people are bashing a fighter for wanting to fight the best? The real reason why people are so angry here and are still banging on about this is because there's a question mark hanging over Joe's head with regards to his resume and the time at which he chose to fight his opponents. Kessler was a good win tho.
@TheARMAProductions He chose nothing, the Hopkins fight was matched twice 7 years before it happened, with Hopkins pulling out, just as it was with RJJ and Glen Johnson, when Johnson was the best at light heavy. Nobody wanted the fight. As you say though respect to froch for calling out the best.
@fcu4life100 lol ok ya thats true i mean no one who actually knows anything about the sport thinks he great anyway. Theres really nothing he can do to fix his cowardly reputation.
no offense to frenchielcfc but im compelled to make the correction that Calzaghe is not just the best brittish fighter but all in all one of the best of all times. i only regret that i never got to see him fight in person.
froch has some nerve to call out one of the greatest fighters ever in the history of boxing. froch you are not even fit enough to carry Joe Calzaghe' shoes. i feel bad for you mr, froch because if you think you had even the slightest chance with the champ you need to go back to your shrink and tell him that your medication is not working. you are truly delusional.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA what an idiot....for frochs sake youve never impressed anyone!!
purechemicalsoul 2 days ago
hes lucky joe didnt get out of his chair
kooshconti 2 weeks ago
Froch is indeed a ugly little bastard, Bute will KO him very bad
iagazidai33 3 weeks ago
Joe even..lol
zrdragon1 1 month ago
Froch would have been battered by Joel.
zrdragon1 1 month ago
As good as Calzaghe is his inside boxing....he has no inside boxing ,most European boxers don't ,it's an american stile Just look at the Ward vs Froch fight.But Ricky Hatton is a great European boxer with great inside boxing.
rashadmr6 1 month ago
ward schooled him, calzaghe would have murdered the cunt
welshicecream 1 month ago
Calzaghe is not a legend, he was a lazy boxer with no balls who fought those at the shit end of their career. FROCH FOR THE WIN
NyabUk 1 month ago
Who's this fucking muppet ? Calzaghe is retired, was undefeated, and this stupid prick wants to fight a retired boxer. This idiots gonna get knocked out soon, then lets see how cocky he is, cos he aint even a good boxer tbh.
Levzi 1 month ago
All these people having a go at Carl are off your tits. Froch will fight ANYBODY out there, Whether he would have lost to Joe ain't the issue, when you fight the very best out there you are a credit to the sport. We need more Froch type fighters in boxing in my opinion, just look at the level of opposition he has fought consitantly in the last 6 fights or so. He's a credit to boxing.
BatmansArse 1 month ago
if joe got back in the gym and got in a ring with froch he would kill him
danikid998 1 month ago
froch you never would have gone 6 rounds with joe in his day ,you got lucky against an old taylor couldnt beat kessler when he was on the slide and the best you can do is fight in this super six circus . go on out to play now you silly boy itll soon be bed time
geoffreyfury 2 months ago
joe made mince meat out of kessler ,if the fight had happened you would of got the same ,kessler beat you,says it all
feckatroll 2 months ago
If you think Cobra couldn't beat Calzaghe then you don't watch boxing or your Welsh. Froch has the best chin in the business and would totally out power Calzaghe.Joe was a decent fighter in a period of time where Middleweight was lacking any stars, Froch came in on the up and when Joe was asked to fight someone who wasn't about to retire he wouldn't do it. Calzaghe= Pussy.
NyabUk 2 months ago
Calzaghe was THAT good...nobody could beat him.
simondgrass 2 months ago
Calzaghe ducked him, just like he ducked a prime Jones and a Hopkins rematch after he got well-schooled by the Executioner.
Shirishama1 3 months ago
@Shirishama1 calzaghe ducked no one! if you look back u can find an interview with rjj and he says calzaghe wanted 2 fight him years ago but they couldnt come up with enough money for rjj! calzaghe would kill froch, calzaghe battered kessler 5 years ago then last year kessler beats froch! b-hop did not school him at all! at the end of the day if calzaghe was american he wud be 1 of the greatest super middle weights in the world!!
jamesjimbo90 3 months ago
@jamesjimbo90 Yes if only he was American, he'd have been better trained and taught but alas, he was not. : (
You need to rewatch the Hopkins fight. Even Calzaghe knew he lost it. He and papa Enzo were terrified the entire fight.
Shirishama1 3 months ago
@jamesjimbo90 "calzaghe would kill froch". Come on now, that's just daft. Carl has a granite chin and can simply shrug off huge shots from powerful guys. Calzaghe is well known for his lack of punching power. Carl would walk through anything Joe could throw at him.
wurble 3 months ago
@wurble ok he wudnt kill him but he would box his head off! it wud be another lacy fight, froch comes foward calzaghe throws quick combos then gets out of the way! just like he did vs kessler who beat froch
jamesjimbo90 3 months ago
@jamesjimbo90 I'm a fan of both the guys. But Calzaghe would never KO froch and could only ever win on points... that would mean having to go 12 rounds with an awkward, powerful and dangerous fighter who's always coming forward and is a fantastic counter puncher. I just don't think Joe could get through it. It'll never happen anyway, but it'd be an incredible fight. The Kessler Froch fight was amazing. Despite the judges scorecard, Kessler won it by the skin of his teeth IMO.
wurble 2 months ago
@wurble yeah ur right kessler did win by the skin of his teeth lol! i gotta give ya credit ur 1 of a few plp on here who actually knw wat there talking bout! wat bout froch vs ward then? personally i think ward on points but i wud love froch 2 ko him
jamesjimbo90 2 months ago
@jamesjimbo90 It'll be a great fight. Of the times I've seen when Ward and Froch have come face to face Ward doesn't look like a man with confidence. I think he knows he's in for a war and most definitely not looking forward to it. That's a thing I like about Carl, he's got a true warrior mentality. Not the most graceful of fighters, but does throw some beautiful shots and combo's now and again. I think Carl will stop him in the closing rounds. Very much looking forward to the fight.
wurble 2 months ago
@wurble i hope your right then froch can ko bute the bum who only fights in canada!
jamesjimbo90 2 months ago
Luckily for you, Froch, Calzaghe has retired cos he would murder you....EASILY
gapamu66 3 months ago
@gapamu66 stop overrating calzaghe
lassedw 3 months ago
@lassedw i dont like Calzaghes boxing style, but you cant argue with the facts, he's unbeaten, and lets not forget Froch has been a mediocre and lucky fighter
gapamu66 3 months ago
@gapamu66 There's no such thing as a "lucky" fighter. And if there's one thing Carl isn't, it's mediocre. The guy pretty much always puts on a great show and gives fans their moneys worth.
wurble 3 months ago
@wurble Obviously you didnt watch the Taylor fight, fyi, Taylor walked into a "swipe" thrown by Froch, it was never a punch, he was out boxed and out skilled by Taylor until he made that mistake
gapamu66 2 months ago
@wurble oh and btw , can you tell me in which fight Froch has put on a good show, cos ive never seen it
gapamu66 2 months ago
@gapamu66 Well you're clearly a Froch hater, so it's pointless directing you to his entertaining fights.
wurble 2 months ago
@wurble im not a Froch hater, i just rate him as World class, he's 2 tier below that, just as Kessler proved when he out-classed and out-boxed him, EASILY
gapamu66 2 months ago
@wurble AND you're clearly a Froch lover, so it's even more pointless debating his "entertaining" fights with you
gapamu66 2 months ago
@gapamu66 So why bother asking me in the first place? I'm not a Froch "lover". I'm a fan of fighters who show some flair and heart. I like the way he fights and the fact that he'll take on anyone. He's one of the most exciting and ballsy fighters to come out of the UK in a long while. You seriously think the stoppage of Taylor in the dying seconds of the final round wasn't entertaining? The slug fest with Kessler? Battle with Pascal? Even the Americans around here admit he's great to watch.
wurble 2 months ago
@wurble He's only "great" to watch because he keeps his hands low,and people are hoping to see him get caught with a biggy, just like he did in the Kessler fight and consistently in the Taylor fight,unti he got lucky, im not a great lover of Calzaghe either but Froch is no Calzaghe or is he ever going to be nearly as good as him either. B-Hop would beat Froch and he's older than me , but dont get all antsi , this is what boxing and opinion is about
gapamu66 2 months ago
after this time ,froch and calzaghe would be an AMAZING fucking FIGHT!!!!!!!!
LogicalStatements1 3 months ago
Carl is awesome, a great guy.
But yes joe would beat bernard again, pascal, dawson, cleverly, and ward.
Its the truth
TheNigerianScammer 3 months ago
Joe Calzaghe is a better boxer than Carl "pin-head" Froch will ever be.
Lrdvltr 3 months ago
please carl go to his house and drag him out show everyone that he is a fake boxer who should be slapping women not boxing men my girlfriend slaps harder than joe please carl hasel him and hunt him down
goodygum20 3 months ago
Calzaghe even tho hes been out for a few months would batter him!!!!
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Sorry Froch is even more jealous now he has lost to Kessler who was clearly beaten by Joe. Watch the Lacy, Jones, Eubank, Kessler fights and marvel at the skill, movement, angles, speed, endurance, power and intelligence. JC the undefeated 70% KO legend. Joe would destroy Bute or Ward. I like Froch but he's still got it all to do. Stay in the armchair Joe, the legend gets bigger every day.
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lastruebeliever 5 months ago
calzaghe = punch a million times so the other guy dosen't get a punch in, and so win on points more often than not. A great endurance fighter? yes. An all time great? NO
takewhole 5 months ago
Calzaghe defeated Hopkins. That's why he called out Calzaghe.
edujaymz 5 months ago
Remember Froch u muppet that the guy that does all the talking ends up getting his ass wooped example: James Degale, David Haye, Zab Judah, and instead of dissing British fighters like Khan and Calzaghe why dont u support them and if u really wanna fight someone at Lightheavyweight hy dont u challenge guys like Bernard Hopkins.
TheCrazy8800 5 months ago 2
@TheCrazy8800 Calzaghe defeated Hopkins. That's why he called out Calzaghe.
edujaymz 5 months ago
@TheCrazy8800 What about fighters like Mayweather, Hopkins etc who talk shit but back it up in the ring?
sexysiralex 5 months ago
Calzaghe would school every super middle weight today
carbonfiberfan 5 months ago 16
@carbonfiberfan stop overrating calzaghe
lassedw 3 months ago
@lassedw your just a hater
carbonfiberfan 3 months ago
@carbonfiberfan your delusional, Cal is a bum, lost to a 43yr old Hopkins and has been dodging fighters his whole career unless thier over 40...he goes down in boxing history as a slapping bum. no one ranks him
jerryumeh1 4 weeks ago
@jerryumeh1 no offense but alot of black dudes hate on Calzaghe cuz he's a white Brittish guy. No offense but its the truth.
carbonfiberfan 4 weeks ago
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@carbonfiberfan haha, a lot of white people don't hate on Calzaghe cuz he's a white Brittish guy. No offense but its the truth.
Calzaghe is a coward its the truths everybody knows this and say it all the time, i like white people, i like Froch, Amir is one of a favs
there are so many fighters Calzaghe could of fought that where in his era its embarrassing, it has nothing to do with race, hes simply a joke in boxing.
White plp defend him bc hes white, fact!
jerryumeh1 4 weeks ago
@carbonfiberfan two words. andre ward
KILLUMINATI233 1 week ago
@KILLUMINATI233 hmmm good point. I think he would give Calzaghe problems but I think Joe's movement and hand speed would be too much for him. Ward would eat too many punches when he tries to do his faint, duck in up and under smother technique. (WHich I find pretty innovative). But I dont see anyone in the super middleweight division beathing Ward now.
carbonfiberfan 6 days ago
Calslappy is a con artist he is a complete fraud, he lost to a 43 year old man.
Nathan2345678 5 months ago
calzaghe would make him look silly in a ring ,dream on froch
feckatroll 5 months ago
Froch is ass kicked by Calzaghe 100% sure.
sexbombexxxx 5 months ago
FROCH MY ASS
sexbombexxxx 5 months ago
You are to young and dangerous for Calslappie Carl.
ManInControI 5 months ago
I honestly find it laughable when people call calzaghe a shit boxer and a coward I'm not a fan boy as I like Carl froch aswell but I must say calzaghe probably wouldn't knock him out but would damn sure win 10 or more of the rounds
N1ghtstar4 5 months ago
@N1ghtstar4 agreed, personally i think calzaghe would batter froch, i reckon andre ward will beat froch aswell
fasthandsryan 5 months ago
@fasthandsryan good to see someone else who knows what hes talking about when it comes to boxing ;)
N1ghtstar4 5 months ago
Call out a boxer while he officially retired, classy.
Shpati21 6 months ago
cowardzaghie pussy little fan boys froch would devour calzaghie
SugarRayPetre 6 months ago
calzaghe would kick the shit out of froch
fasthandsryan 6 months ago
Shame he promised his kids he wouldn't fight again... But if I'm honest Joe would destroy him just like he did everyone else
N1ghtstar4 6 months ago
would like to see joe come back and bitch slap all these wannabes... and prove once again he is the best in the division over the last 20 years.
LIVINGONTHEDOLE 6 months ago
OMG!!! Im just now seeing this!!!!!!! I didnt know Froch called out Calzaghe while he was in retirement!!!!! PLEASE JOE COME OUT OF RETIREMENT AND FIGHT FROCH AND BUTE!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!! Those would be HUGE FIGHTS IN MY BOOK!!! Another great trilogy!!!!
BGChamp2019 6 months ago
frock knows he will lose even if joe comes out of retirement. frock good fighter but to slow 4 a classy fighter, just hope he trains 4 speed when he face ward or he lose on points really... pick up the pace frock
roloboy97 7 months ago
@roloboy97 who the fuck is "frock"?
P4PMike 6 months ago
when taylor put him down it was nerves more tyhan anything
as for a harder puncher will knock him out hes bin in with kessler abraham and johnson those guys can bang
howzie23yo 7 months ago
@welshicecream But for arguments sake, assuming Joe was at his best and they were to fight now...that's a tough one to call. Joe would no doubt at least take the early rounds (if not dominating them) and Froch would start to work his way into the fight, always remaining a danger by applying that constant pressure. The only thing i'd be willing to bet money on is that Froch is not stopped and some of the people here saying Froch would be KO'd are either dishonest are deuluded lol
TheARMAProductions 7 months ago
@TheARMAProductions fair play mate.....completely agree with everything u said. Im a massive calzaghe fan (being a welsman) and would love to see the fight but think it probably should be left alone. If im being honest think it would go the distance like u said. they both warriors with good chins. The only thing is about froch i think his defence is weak with that left hand always dropped. never the less........both great fighters and would be hell of a fight.....
welshicecream 7 months ago
@welshicecre Yeh Froch's defence is very weak. Sometimes it's to set a trap but when a fighter gets on the inside you see Froch struggle and look almost amateurish at times. What Froch tends to so is hold his stance wide which makes it hard to get close to him (without taking punches anyway) but if a fighter can get through that then he has a good chance at dropping Froch. Hard to get KO but they can drop him. How old is Joe btw mate? I have no idea lol. Not that much older tha Froch I believe?
TheARMAProductions 7 months ago
@TheARMAProductions i agree......in his last fight he took alot of right hands but didnt go down.....fair play he got a good chin. taylor put him down tho so ya never know...harder hitter could knock him out. calzaghe is 39 now.....so not too late when you look at the likes of hopkins etc....but i dont think he will now. froch - ward guna be a good fight...who u think for that?
welshicecream 7 months ago
just watched frochs recent fight...............he was good but yet again proved he's not even a touch on calzaghe. His defence is absolutely terrible. left arm is dropped 70% of the time. Only matter of time before someone takes big advantage of it.....
welshicecream 7 months ago
@welshicecream What, exactly, would Calzaghes slaps do to effect a win against Froch? Froch isn't some muscle man like Lacy, where he can slap and hold, slap and hold all night. You need to learn critical objective thinking, not silly nationalistic bias. Other than the slap feast against Kessler, and robbing BHop, who did he fight of worth since Eubank? No one. Froch's last 5 fights have been at a higher standard than JCs career.
528hertz 7 months ago
@528hertz his slaps got him through a perfect career!! 47 - 0 speaks for itself. yes i am welsh but most of the boxing community would agree calzaghe would beat him, maybe not by knockout but def distance and i stand by my statement that frochs defence is awful. needs to tighten that right up. hopefully its not to late for froch v calzaghe if joe fancys it but can only see 1 winner.....jc all day.
welshicecream 7 months ago
@welshicecream No, they wouldn't agree. BTW 47-0 = Eubank ,43 bums, 2 pensioners and Kessler. Remember, Froch constantly called Joe out, but Joe avoided him. Yes, Frochs defence is poor, but his chin makes up for it. On the other hand Froch can bang far harder than Joe, as Taylor can confirm. Given Joe avoided Froch in Joes prime, there is no way he'll fight Froch in Frochs prime. If you weren't Welsh and thus biased, you'd have a more realistic opinion on this.
528hertz 7 months ago
@528hertz well whether they were bums or not 47-0 you gota be doing sumin right....when froch was calling out joe he didnt deserve a fight against joe.......he had done nothing to get a chance at joe! you have to earn big fights and he hadnt earnt it..froch wanted a big money fight. never the less anyways.....rumour has it joe may make a come back.......hopefully he will and we will get the fight we want to see. yes im biased but only one winner..no one matches joes fitness and workrate
welshicecream 7 months ago
@welshicecream You really think Froch wanted to fight Calzaghe for a big pay day, the same excuse Hatton used to brush off Witter? Highly unlikely given Frochs character. I'd love to see them fight, but it isn't gonna happen. Its too risky for Calzaghe and his record. If it does happen, I'll put £500 straight away on a Froch win. Thats how confident I am, lol.
528hertz 7 months ago
@528hertz yes i do....well at the time he was calling him out i think it was for the pay day! well only time will tell mate. calzaghe lives not to far from me....hope to see him running the roads again....you never know! ill take that bet......
welshicecream 7 months ago
@welshicecream Even tho i wanted to see a Froch Joe fight, I don't think it should happen now. Joe is retired where as Froch in on top of his game so it wouldn't be fair. If Froch were to win, genuine fight fans would then question if it was the same Joe C. That fight needed to happen a few years ago so people should lay off both fighters I think.
TheARMAProductions 7 months ago
FROCH. You are a TOSSER. and a LOSER/. Joe has nowt to lose. You though are desperate.
see ya Brummie LOSER
stubbostubbs 8 months ago
@stubbostubbs Idiot, Froch was school that welsh twat.
frankieflash 8 months ago
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@frankieflash" Idiot, Froch was school that welsh twat." Have you got a brain mate or is stacking shelves at tesco getting to you?
stubbostubbs 8 months ago
@stubbostubbs presumably you said this before his last fight. That said I do agree that Joe was something special.
boum62 7 months ago
haha dream on Froch. Calzaghe would have you for breakfast mate
fazer990 8 months ago
Froch had been doing this all through his early career, it's a good thing for him that calzaghe never took the fight, he'd of been embarrased Lacy style.
YorkshireGripper 8 months ago
Huge Froch fan but Joe would make him look silly. Styles make fights and Calzaghe is about as wrong for Carl as you can get.
TrippleNipple72 9 months ago
He's retired Froch. And you are mediocre at best.
croesrob 9 months ago
@croesrob lulz at the angry butt hurters here. This vid is old and was taken whilst Froch had just come off of a big win...give the guy a break! People can argue who they think would of won but one thing is true....Froch's last 5 fights do pwn Joe C entire career. Froch has the better resume altho that doesn't mean he would of beaten beat Joe. Styles are what makes fights and I think Joe would of been able to keep away whilst slapping him to death hehe
TheARMAProductions 9 months ago
eat shit froch . calzaghe would o sparked you out . cunt . lol
MrRonnie28 9 months ago
@MrRonnie28 I'm not bashing Joe here but do you really think the slapping Joe C would of 'sparked' Froch? LOL. Joe probably would of taken him on points but no way could a light fisted Joe C KO a steel chinned Froch. Just look at who Froch has fought and the punches he has taken That's just a stupid comment mate haha
TheARMAProductions 9 months ago
@TheARMAProductions stupid comments are allowed on here but yes i agree points decision is a more likely outcome . i just dont like froch thats why i said that . pity the two never fought
MrRonnie28 9 months ago
@MrRonnie28 Yeah that fight would of been big here in the UK. You don't like Froch as a person or don't like him as a fighter? What I like about Froch is he's an old school fighter. Limited in terms of footwork compared to the likes of Joe but as tough as nails and will fight anyone anywhere (well...not so true now after Kessler and that dody score by that judge who was involved in the Oke robbery). It's fighters like Dirrell I can't stand. Trying to stink wins and stuff.
TheARMAProductions 9 months ago
@MrRonnie28 As for my thoughts about Joe and this vid...fans from both sides need to forget about this silly vid. Froch made theses comments about 10 minutes after coming off of a big win. He just wanted to fight Joe because Joe was considered the best. Froch actually respects Joe but was trash talking him to try and get him to fight. We need more fighters like Froch. People who will bring it every time and don't act like the Dirrells (Harolds cough cough lol)
TheARMAProductions 9 months ago
@TheARMAProductions I agree with that, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It's funny though, Calzaghe used to be a very big puncher until his hands gave out, much like Floyd mayweather.
YorkshireGripper 8 months ago
Calzaghe doesn't need to prove himself, his boxing career and record does the talking, we all know calzaghe would make this twat look like a true amateur
MrChunkerz 9 months ago
FROCH CANT HANDLE CALZAGHE!!!! PERIOD
chazytone 9 months ago
calzaghe is the man at that weight and would make froch look stupid every round
rfordy7 10 months ago
haha kesslerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
clus11 10 months ago
froch would beat calzaghe..imo.
youngtek361uno 11 months ago
Calzaghe would destroy froch, he would out box him for all 12 rounds, Calzaghe has supirior hand speed, he's better technically and defensively he's an all round better boxer, he had an good chin to only went down 3 times in 46 fights and the one against Jones was an illegal kd. and im not being biased, i like Froch hes exciting to watch and the mans a warrior but Calzaghe would wipe the floor with him !!!!!
zh1992 11 months ago
@MrWFCFAN Froch fought better opponents than Calzaghe. At least Froch is fighting fighters in their prime. The only credible opponent that Calzaghe fought was Mikkel Kessler, other than that he fought a bunch of nobodies. Also, I hate people like you who assume that one fight determines the outcome of two different fights. George Foreman beat Fraizer and Norton who beat Ali, but then Ali beat Foreman. Go suck on that you dumbass.
fsfegserghrh 1 year ago
@fsfegserghrh I dont know man,...many boxing experts say that Calzaghe was incredible. Who should I believe them or a bunch of keyboard warriors.
carbonfiberfan 11 months ago
@MrWFCFAN
And according to this logic (that Joe would destroy Froch because Froch lost only slightly to Kessler), this then means Froch would destroy Hopkins because he beat Pascal who then went onto beat Hopkins?
Now you see what I mean about styles making fights and why that was a stupoid comment :)
This is all sir.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@valma1208
yeah right lol. Kessler was slightly gifted a decision against Froch altho Froch at least got to break his face (literally) end his career so haha. Kessler is a girl and would never fight Froch on neutral ground. He has done us all a favour and fairied out of the S6. The S6 is for real warrriors and not blaggers. Abes tried to blag it but felt the Cobra's power and couldn't be gifted a decision as it was on neutral territory and was an ass whoopin!
29Gixxer 1 year ago
Let me explain the debate for all the simpletons out there as there's 3 of them:-
1) A boxers style
2) Would fighter A would beat fighter B?
3) A boxers resume
OK, no.1 is subjective so can be thrown out straight away. No.2 is closey related to no.3 altho not uniquely. Joe C had allot of talent and any decent fight fan will agree there. The issue with him is the fighters and times in their careers that he fought them. Would Joe of taken part in a tourny like the S6?
I think not :)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@MrWFCFAN
But Joe was never a puncher so I fail to see how he would destroy Froch. Would you like me to quote his KO ratio? :)
Joe was a slapper and night a bnager like Froch. Froch could take his shots all night. Froch has only been on the canvas once in his entire career and we have seen him take power shots to tyhe chin on many occasions. If you think Joe C was a hitter then we must be talking about a different Joe C lmao
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@MrWFCFAN Anyone can say a fighter would destroy Froch but that we shouldn't find out lolz. Us fight fans want to see the fight because a fight fan is another word for someone who likes to watch boxing. I am not even arguing on who would win....I am owning Joe C's embarrassing resume. Froch has fough far better fighters in the last 3 years haha. I'm afraid that Joe C will always be remembered outside of Wales as a fighter who hid in a caravan in Wales and then came out to fight 2 40 years olds.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@MrWFCFAN
I see you avoided the issue of ducking Froch so I take it you understand that :) So ur logic if that because Kessker was given a slightly dubious decision against Froch and Joe C beat kess, therefore Joe C would automatically beat Froch? lol styles make fights and it's not as easy as that. Bottom line is that Joe C was a coward who ducked fighters. We can speculate on who would win all day long but the fact remains Joe was too scared to fight Froch where as Froch's resume pwns his :0
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@MrWFCFAN
lol Froch had been calling out Joe for ages dude. I'm not going to say Froch would of beaten Joe altho facts are facts...Joe ducked Froch in the later stages of his career. This vid may of been after Joe retired altho Froch had been hunting him for ages and has been one of the most ducked fighters in the division. Froch fights anyone and on the trot. Just look at his last 5 opponents then compare that to Joe's entire carer lolz
29Gixxer 1 year ago
He will never fight again ,( unless he blows his money ) which his father was on tv moaning about him not earning enough money from boxing ? Hmmm why was that ? You get the big money when you face the top boyz !!!
12starware12 1 year ago
hes got more power than calzaghe but calzaghe would just outbox this guy all night and win
feckatroll 1 year ago
Everbody in this super-six tournement, Calzaghe would destroy each and everyone.
jay1jjs 1 year ago
froch is just coming into his own.hes got 2 or 3 years left to really start to shake up the boxing world.he is exciting to watch,i for one will be tuning in to his fights!
dvdmsch 1 year ago
Calzaghe wouldnt fight Froch, he just fights 40+ former Legends! Cowardzaghe!
Ahmet1445 1 year ago
@Ahmet1445 yeah Calzaghe's record doesn't look as good as Frochs on paper but Calzaghe smashed Kessler and Froch lost. He also beat Hopkins and Hopkins was just robbed of a decison against Pascal whom Froch struggled against.
Doesn't take a genius to figure out who the better fighter was and Calzaghe usually fought with a fcked up hand which he struggled with throughout his career.
extremepoker75 1 year ago
@extremepoker75
i said before, you gotta add that he fought a past-prime Jones and Hopkins, or do you say that Jones and Hop were at their peaks whe they fought Joe? By the way, Froch-Kessler was a a very close decision and a fucking war.
Ahmet1445 1 year ago
@extremepoker75 yes i must agree
formidablepower 1 year ago
@extremepoker75 calzaghe=biggest coward in boxing history
dunlap15 1 year ago
LOL at all the yanks who can't stand the fact that a british/welsh boxer is better than shit excuses for boxers.
Calzaghe = UNDEFEATED.
WardyProductions 11 months ago
Froch isn't in Calzaghe's league. Joe would never waste time fighting this moron.
fazer990 1 year ago
Calzaghe would absolutely destroy Froch he doesn't deserve a fight with Calzaghe he doesn't deserve to hold his spit bucket lol
COOK5EY 1 year ago
@COOK5EY
Many think that Froch would loose on points but to say he doesn't deserve a fight with Joe is just ridiculous and smells of fear. Just look at Froch's last 5 fights...Pascal, Dirrell, Taylor, Kessler and AA. All top class elite fighters. Now look at Joe C's resume lmao. He beat Kessler which was good but waited until Bhop and Jones were old men.
Froch however fights them all and in their prime...
29Gixxer 1 year ago
what a bum ill call kessler on him to give him a beating, calzaghe is on a different level to forch, froch better shut up before he really ticks calzaghe off, prick thinks hes sik got beaten down by a midget
Khan12078 1 year ago
@Khan12078
yeah right...I bet Froch is really scared lol. Joe will never fight Froch and it will always be all talk dude. Anyway...i recommend you compare Froch's resume to Joe C's (and especially Khans lolz) before you start mouthing off.
Joe C and Khan have consitantly ducked fighters....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer ohh come on i guess your also a khan hater like froch is too mann, listen froch is rubbish, slow footwork, bad stamina, decent power and hardly any speed or head movement and khans still making more money then froch is beating him by the 6 digit figure he
Khan12078 1 year ago
@29Gixxer must be good when hes earning so much doe, hes fighting midana next if he loses then you can mouth off but if he wins then thats just proves he doesnt need to fight any bums like thaxton and murray who find it difficult to make it big cus of there wak boxing skills.
Khan12078 1 year ago
@Khan12078
Be realistic...lets compae their last 5 fights....
Froch = Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler and AA.
Let's hear who Khans last 5 opponents were :0
Khan is just used to milk the Asian community out of their money. Khan has fought absaloutely nobody and won't even give Precott a rematch )Precot was beat by Mitchell too lol) as he knows he will get KTFO. Get real dude. Are you seriously telling us that Khan has fought top fighters like Froch?
lulz
29Gixxer 1 year ago
U support Khan coz you're Muslim which is cool because I support Froch as he is British but let's be honest about things...Khan is ducking Presccot like how Joe C ducked Froch his entire career. Froch don't duck no one and will fight anybody anywhere. Unless you care to name me anyone Froch has ducked? When Khan starts fighting top fighters then come and talk about how shit Froch is. You may not like Froch's style but that's a mute point when he has fought & beat top fighters unlike Amir.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@Khan12078
You can call me a Khan hater so as to avoid what I am saying all ya want buddy lol. Tell us who Khan has fought compared to Froch? With respect you only uspport Khan as he is Muslim, you hate on Froch (depsite his resume owning Khans and Joe c's) then you have the cheek to call me a Khan hater lol. Khan, as of yet has fought nobody. He coldn't even KO malignaggi where as old fatty hatton did it in his prime!
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@Khan12078 I'm not hating on Khan bro. I used him as an example for you due to your username. All I am saying is take a look at who Khan, Froch and Joe C have fought & then try to tell me (with a straight face) that Khan or Joe C have a better resume than Froch :) Just coz a boxer is getting paid well, that doesn't make him a great. You judge a fighter based on who he has fought. Khan has a large Asian fanbase which is why they promote him over other fighters (and is why he has allot of haters)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer "smells of fear"? ok then moving on Bhop and Jones turned down Joe earlier in his career.
Joe beat kessler and lacy both younger fighters lacy was favorite and voted p4p best at the time Joe wins easy then poeple say lacy is rubbish lol
46-0
COOK5EY 1 year ago
@COOK5EY
You sure on that? Bhop seems to fight just about anyone. The dude is even calling out David Haye (same with Jones actually) lol.
I'm not going to argue that Froch would take Joe as i think Joe would slap his way to a victory there mate. My argument is that you can't deny that Froch' last 5 fights are something Joe would never do. I made this argument as you seem to thin Froch doesn't deserve a fight with Joe? Froch has done more than enough and that fight would be a classic.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@COOK5EY
PS
46 - 0
45 bums...1 decent fighter in his prime. Keep in mind styles make fights. Joe struggled with Ried a little where as Froch demolished Ried (Ried may of been shot tho). This is why the fight needs to go ahead. There's still question marks over Joe like it or not (just look at all the comments on the forums),
Joe vs Froch...Fighter vs tactician....why wouldn't you wanna see it?
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer ok good point put across, lets take a look malanaggi fights hatton actually gave him a 11 round stoppage just as khan did, Andreas Kotelnik who has beaten the likes of midana (rank 4 in junior walterwight divison) and devon alexandra (rank 3 in junior walterweight division). so he has fought tough opponents and dimitriy salita was ranked 3 in junior walterweight division before he got KOd by Khan. And Khans next opponent is Midana who has 29 wins and
Khan12078 1 year ago
@Khan12078
i wouldn't want to bash on Khans opponents too much. I see you're point although look at Froch's last 5 fights man. He is literally fighting the very best. I was just addressing this to all the Froch haters out there. khan is still young so it's too early to judge him really but we can judge Joe now that he has retired.
For all the skill that Joe C had...he did duck fighters (allot of fighters do this tho).
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer khan actually took this Midana fight to prove the criticz wrong saying he was afraid of power punchers, now there saying "oh well khans going to win because hes too slow" all of sudden it just irritates me as they will never be fufilled no matter who khan faces i bet you even if he beat the likes of mayweather a few years on form now teh accuse would be mayweathers too old, not saying your a critic but i undertsna dwhere you view point is :)
Khan12078 1 year ago
@29Gixxer khan actually took this Midana fight to prove the criticz wrong saying he was afraid of power punchers, now there saying "oh well khans going to win because hes too slow" all of sudden it just irritates me as they will never be fufilled no matter who khan faces i bet you even if he beat the likes of mayweather a few years on form now teh accuse would be mayweathers too old, not saying your a critic but i undertstand where you view point is :)
Khan12078 1 year ago
@Khan12078 you can never satisfy certain haters, they're always gonna find something to hate on.
Khan was beyond brilliant in that fight.
British people who hate khan, should start getting behind him. Khan, Haye, Froch, Burns, all british fighters, all world champions.
British boxers are now taking centre stage on the world arena, the likes of kell brook, and james de gale are also big prospects.
networksport1111 1 year ago
@networksport1111 damn right well said
Khan12078 1 year ago
@networksport1111 to true
formidablepower 1 year ago
@networkspor After that fight I'm behind khan altho you need to keep in mind my comments were made 'before' he decided to fight a puncher for the first time in 3 years. U are correct tho mate. We should back all our fighters but that includes Froch too. Just look at his last 5 fights then tell me he doesn't deserve TV time or that others fight better :) Peeps who bash Froch just need to compare his opponents to all others which was why I had to put the Khan nuthugging Froch bashers straight!
29Gixxer 1 year ago
*2 years*
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@networksport1111
PS
I am no Khan hater. Now he has stepped up I am behind him it's just that if you come onto a thread bashing Froch and think Khan fights better...you will get laughed at and schooled lol.
Pascal, Taylor, Dirrel, Kessler and Abes...All in a row and within a shortish time of each other.
Joe C's resume = two 40 year olds and Kessler lol
Nuff said....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer 27 KOs the HARDEST puncher in the light walterwight division and would beat the likes of thaxton murray or anybody in that division just like he did with victor ortiz in the 4 round who was named the "next de la hoya" undefeated corley, he has 10 times harder punches then prescott so i dont think he really needs to give prescott a rematch if hes facing a much more difficult opponent Midana who has also KOd the likes of Willaim gonzales and silverio ortiz who have much more class then
Khan12078 1 year ago
@29Gixxer prescott and were championship meatrial only to be blown away by the likes of Midana. yes i know some of his fights were easy but that happens in everyones career Tysons, Pacquios and they actually strat fighting pros after 30 fights even hatton did he fighted Kostya Tszyu his first pro fight who was actually considered of being a overated boxer who had fought bums before he ws actually given recognition in his previous 3 fights.
Khan12078 1 year ago
I like Calzaghe but I really think that Froch is better and will defeat him.
Calzaghe is incredibly good but who he fought ? An old Roy Jones ?
No comparison with a Pascal who is near of the top.
FalconBoxe 1 year ago
Go get your own reputation Mr froch...if you want, it earn it, like Joe did!!!
If Kessler was to hard, try Andre Ward!
chaseybears 1 year ago
why is it ppl call mayweather a "ducker" but calzaghe get's a pass? Mayweather's resume' is way better and far more extensive than Joe who only beat guys well after their prime.
NextWorldApparel 1 year ago
@NextWorldApparel not true he beat Kessler and Lacy when both were undefeated and in their primes. As for Hopkins, he never seems to be past his prime. He beat Pavlik who is in his prime, granted it was at a higher weight class. i am a hispanic american and i appreciate what Calzaghe did and he came to america to face Hopkins and he beat him here.
TheDannyboy55 1 year ago
Froch is a class A bell end , a really really shit boxer with no class ...
BadAssBen78 1 year ago 2
@BadAssBen78 nope seems like a good bloke actually, oh and two time world champion, so thats put your insult to bed
gillri 10 months ago
@gillri I'm a Calzaghe fan , I didn't like the way Froch has spoken about him in the past.
I also don't like the way he boxes , and on him as a person , the man has no class , I really think the man is a cock sucker.
We just differ on our view of people I guess.
BadAssBen78 10 months ago
Froch just wanted to fight Joe because Joe was the best in that division. Would people rather Froch get his fighters cherry picked for him like many fighters do these days? I can't believe people are bashing a fighter for wanting to fight the best? The real reason why people are so angry here and are still banging on about this is because there's a question mark hanging over Joe's head with regards to his resume and the time at which he chose to fight his opponents. Kessler was a good win tho.
TheARMAProductions 9 months ago
@TheARMAProductions He chose nothing, the Hopkins fight was matched twice 7 years before it happened, with Hopkins pulling out, just as it was with RJJ and Glen Johnson, when Johnson was the best at light heavy. Nobody wanted the fight. As you say though respect to froch for calling out the best.
YorkshireGripper 8 months ago
@BadAssBen78 Really?
AshiieBee 9 months ago
@BadAssBen78 and yet cowardzaghe still wont fight him
dunlap15 9 months ago
@dunlap15 he has no need to fight!!! hes made millions of pounds and retired unbeaten!!!! think logically you fucking gimp!!!!
fcu4life100 9 months ago
@fcu4life100 lol ok ya thats true i mean no one who actually knows anything about the sport thinks he great anyway. Theres really nothing he can do to fix his cowardly reputation.
dunlap15 9 months ago
@valma1208 well that really happend
carsteve2000 1 year ago
joe cowardzaghe will hold n slap him 2 death
coldmoney1000 1 year ago
calzaghe would fucking destroy froch. no questions.
WiganTitch 1 year ago
i cant stand croch or calzaghe and i would love nothing more than to see calzaghe lose but it wouldnt come from croch ...
KILLABDAD 1 year ago
@valma1208 kessler won on points so u wernt all wrong
killerkrew23 1 year ago
no offense to frenchielcfc but im compelled to make the correction that Calzaghe is not just the best brittish fighter but all in all one of the best of all times. i only regret that i never got to see him fight in person.
CBSNSTOCKTON1 1 year ago
@CBSNSTOCKTON1 Calzaghe is one of the best of all time yes, but not the greatest British boxer ever- that was Jimmy Wilde.
mizofan 1 year ago
froch has some nerve to call out one of the greatest fighters ever in the history of boxing. froch you are not even fit enough to carry Joe Calzaghe' shoes. i feel bad for you mr, froch because if you think you had even the slightest chance with the champ you need to go back to your shrink and tell him that your medication is not working. you are truly delusional.
CBSNSTOCKTON1 1 year ago