Ustad Nazakat Ali & Ustad Salamat Ali (rafaqatalikhan.com.pk)

[iftekharayub]

GHAZAB KAR DIYA H USTAAD SHBAN NE

[khayyamabbasi55]

waoww..amazing

[Ahmadh363]

Heart touching!



[krsrinidhi]

Wah wah!! I was wondering what Raga this was in!?

[bajerovaquero]

Bulli Khan on tabla!?!?!?!?!?!

[drsultanali43]

amazing at 6:43

[goldtipu]

I am the 99th likes ;-)

[geetkapoor11]

kammaaaalll owsssaauummmm........

[sayaliabbas]

Amazing!speechless.

[MrSanoty]

subhanAllah ustad nazaakat at 4.10 to 4.19,subhanAllah,

[tbimbra]

4.25 is just phenomenal

[gandalfthegrey41]

though a bit old fashioned, this is an asset for generations to come !

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@Najamsheraz Hava Nagila.

[pritpalc]

This is a 4 beat taal...

anyone thinking otherwise simply does not know how to count.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@pritpalc yes you are right...

for some reason this gives some novice listeners a feeling for a 7 beat tall...

which taal they have not said...

but deffinately not a 4 or 8 or 16 beat taal or a 4/4 time signature ryythm.

Some novice listeners here think it is a 1&3/4 beat rhytm.

I don't know how they are counting because it surely is not in sync with the sum of the tabla player.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

novices as opposed to an expert like you, right?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife No not an expert but an advanced student like me.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

of how many decades now?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife Enough to school you.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

no please tell us all your credentials again

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife Are you so embarrassed by your ridiculous claim of this being a 7 beat taal that your are now picking at straws with some kind of misguided egoist approach to redeem your self?

Clearly you are a zero when it comes to hindhustani musc. Perhaps Afghans should leave Punjabi music to the Punjabis.

My credentials are enough to have given you the bols for the theka and put your 7 beat thoery to shame.

Khuda Hafiz you poor loser.

[afghanforlife]

you are a typical peendo without any proper upbringing or education, that is quite clear

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife I was born and raised in the west so I am hardly a Peendu.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

peendo is in genes, attitude and behaviour, nothing to do with where you were born and raised LOL

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife Deffinition: Pindhu is someone born in a Pind (little village) like you.

Our conversation is finished.

[pritpalc]

@afghanforlife What is a Peendo...Is it someone who Pee's alot?

Or is it a container that catches pee? Or is someone who drinks alot. Because to some Pakistanis, punjabs and Indians "to drink" something to is to "PEE" something.

Wierd huh?

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

look to the right and see who is playing tabla for salamat ali - that is an Afghan kid, Salar Nader

can you play as good as he?

idiot peendo

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

Salar Nader is the chela of Ustad Zakir Hussain, PUNJAB GHARANA....

Another example of a Punjabi teaching an Afghani about music. lol.

I'm joking. But it's true.

n e way take care.

Allah Hafiz

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

There's no such thing as an "Afghani", it's Afghan. Yes Afghans learned music from Punjabis but Punjabis learned culture and governance off Afghans, we even named their country for them in our own language that they still use - from Punjab to Pakistan to Hindustan, to much of the best words of Farid's poetry, it all came from Afghan languages.

[pritpalc]

@afghanforlife Mr. Because you are smarter than everyone here and have figured out how this is a 7 beat taala. Please, I would like to know the name and bol of the 7 beat taala that it is. lol

Or may I suggest you go back to basic tabla class with your Ustad.

lol

[afghanforlife]

@pritpalc

who the hell are you?

[pritpalc]

@afghanforlife I'm somebody very interested in music theory. I would like to understand your 7 beat theory on this song.

pls explain.

[afghanforlife]

@pritpalc

as I have said below, I was counting wrong and I agree it's a 4 matra theka.

[pritpalc]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs Ofcouse I am right...

Only a very young child could mistake this for a 7/14 beat taala. It is obviously a version of a 4/8 beat taal.

I can't stop laughing at that other guy.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

what raag is this?

[MrShreyang]

@Najamsheraz learn more :P

[mkryes]

where can i find the full recording of this video

[afghanforlife]

I am surprised by you saying this. Sounds to me very much like the 7 beat Mughali taal. Tin na - DhinDhin DhaDha played with another variation in the bols.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife it does not count out to 7...

it is in 4/4 time..

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

it does count to 7. and 4/4 is western rhythmic concept anyway, it doesn't apply here

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

is it a variation of Rupak....?

which would be 1&3/4 time and can apply here.

It is possible to match up taal with western rythm notation.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

upon further review I stand by my earlier note that this is a 8 beat cycle or a variation of it.. 4/4 time if equated to western time. Which can and does correlate with a 4/8/16 beat rythm cycle

it is not 7 beat of anykind...rupak...dhammar...or anything.

it is a fancy variation of kerwa

dhaa tina tin dhin dhin dha dha

1 2  3 4 5 6 7 8

or something very similar

note: even though there are only 7 bols it counts out to 8 because the dhaa is 2 bols

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

wrong

ask any tabla player to play a 7 beat cycle to this. they can't. I've been playing tabla for 25 years...clearly this is not a 7 beat cycle...

even though it may have 7 bols there is a empty bol/extended bol which counts out to 2.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

why would I ask a tabla player claiming to be the expert with 25 years experience?

Ok then write out the theka played here showing the beats clearly, in the most conventional system of writing taals because your theka below is totally wrong, that is not what is being played on the tabla in the clip.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

It's not my problem that you can't count and your not familiar with the term VARIATION.

As in my last post where I said it was a Variation of the basic Theka I wrote.

He is adding little titkits and tintintintins ect for flare in the theka.

If you claim it to be a 7 beat cycle i dare you to make a video of yourself playing a 7 beat cycle to this and post it here in youtube as a response to this video.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

First off GIVE the variation if you are an expert, don't TALK about a variation.

I'm not the tabla ustad with 25 years experience who cannot even write out the theka with proper in proper notation showing the matras, bols, vibhags and khali and taali, am I? So why don't you make a clip playing keherwa or 4/4 western time signatures to this?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife Where did I say was an expert? Are you hallucinating? I only said I have 25 year of experience/student of tabla. Provide a quote of me claiming to be a Expert!! If you can't you clearly are delusional!! That is why you hear 7 beats. It is a 4 beat cycle Trak dha titkit tak dhin dhin dhin dha.. Khali - taali. 1, 2, repeat. Version of taal Dhumalli I heard Afghanistan is famous for its poppies... Too much for you I think.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

Ok don't show your lack of education an get personal with idiotic comments that have nothing to do with the subject at hand. didn't your parents teach you how to talk?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife How is your attempt to play 7beat/14beat rupak/jhumra/chancal/dipchani/­dhammar attempt working out?

= Fail

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs why do you feel the need to play 5 different taals to the one composition? if this tabla player did this he would have got a slap from Salamat Ali. Just tell the correct one, don't say 4/4, dhumali, keherwa, geda and hope that one of them is right, anybody could do that. Btw it is not impossible to play a 7 or 14 beat structure over this, that it is what good layakaars can do. Look at the clip of Tari Khan playing jhaptal over the base dadra in song by Hariharan on youtube.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

Tell me what taal it is.

I know that a 7 beat could be made to play to this if the tabla player made an attempt to make a demonstation of that feat....but that is not the case here.

Listen to the same composition played by Salamat Ali Khan sahibs son. Shafqat Ali khan

I sent you the link.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

both of them are 4 beats variations of keherwa. I was counting wrong, put off by the opening KE of the theka instead of the usual GE

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

and now it's a variation of dhumali is it? What happened to western 4/4 disco and and keherwa?

Why don't you stop giving us second hand information and put who ever is informing you online?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife

FYI dummali is also 4/4...like other 4/8/16 beat cycles.

Who said anything about DISCO besides you.

Why are you making up things and attributing them to me?

Basic TEka I figured out simply by having a closer listen is

Trak dha titkit tak dhin dhin dhin dha

8 beats.

Also there is no universal standard way to present bol in written text...

Because It is a vocal disipline. I was only ever given vocal bols to memorize and play by my teacher.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

Stop thinking in western terms. There's no 4/4 in taal terminology. It's different concept of rhythm, no need to bring in western concepts, just stick to taal, matra, bols etc. I don't care to know that you are familiar with western theory like I don't care to know how many years you've been playing tabla. Just stay on point and make your case. Resorting to authority is not a good basis for an argument.

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife you fail my challenge of playing rupak/jhumara/pashto/ deepchandi, or chanchal to this composition!!!! Or dhammar if this was a dhammar or Dhrupad composition which it is not.

You have much to learn about simple beat and time...get a metronome and see if you can get it to fit to a 7 beat cycle. If you can do that...you have to make a video and post this miracle on youtube.

[afghanforlife]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

Of course. But then I don't claim to have 25 years of playing tabla under my belt. You on the other hand who does claim such things with big talk have yet to demonstrate anything

Dont talk it, demonstrate it.

p.s. the following is NOT an adequate demonstration: 12345678 dha dha dhin dha ta ta tin tin ....but with variations tintintin,, nanana, gegegege and maybe tetete LOL

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@afghanforlife I am a vocalist/Sitarist/dilruba/harm­onium player mostly. I have only learnt tabla and Pakhawaj for aid in my singing. i have been playing it with other local singers while I was growing up ect since 1986. And playing the Instuments and Singing since 1992.

I have given you the taal as I hear it..Play it and see that is it.

How long have you been playing tabla?

[KillinDaWelfareMCs]

@KillinDaWelfareMCs

[mhaiderkhan2000]

Excellent... forever songs.

[raqib56]

kumar tabla ji ishq anokheri peerh, sau sau solhi ander, nain bahawam neer, ho alhrey zakahm jigar de, har welay tanghan yaar dian mein tan bhaithi kaag udawan phalan pawan ate qasad bheijhan mein ta thi gain haal bimaran yaar bajon hon jewan kohrey ate ander dard hazaran yaar farid hon aeweiy rowan jiwen wichri konj kataran

[sudhirshewalkar]

RARE  COLLECTION . THANKS !

[rajakshar]

i can see Gulam ali Sahab in the audience. Wow what a Singing by Salamat Ali Khan jee ! These kind of singers are rare on this Earth.

[sherrykingoffighter]

father of melody..........

[cenkjeekhan]

keherwa i think, tabla by bhulli khan saib,

[amanshok]

kya baat hai yaaar effortless singing.

[sudhirshewalkar]

@cenkjeekhan ....s , 4 bit dhumali  it seems !

[KumarTabla]

What are the Bols for Dhumali Taal? IS this more of a folk rendition?

[acepilotrjv]

Shafqat Ali Khan sings this just as melodious as father. What taal is this in?

[KumarTabla]

I agree

[malikshoaib]

wah....bohat khoobsarat...

[pritpalc]

what is the Farid tuk that he sings?

[anokhaladla007]

Ghulam Fareed is the Sufi poet, who wrote this poem few hundred years ago

cheers

[KALYANISUNIL]

marvellous gayaki

thanx a lot for sharing

[aakfan]

Call it pindora music ( as some people say ) call it jabray ki taan or what ever, Ustad Salamat ali khan had his own unique style, he was an amazing vocalist and a great laykar, i simple adore him, he is one of the best things that can ever happen to classical music.

to all those people who say that Ustad ji used jabray ki taan and it's no big deal, "khud lay kar dikao asi taaan"

zindagi guzar jati hay to master this.

Allah in ko janat naseeb karay.

[raqib56]

Satyasheelrawal,

do you know what is teep ki gayaki !

what is laykari and taan sur

3/4 of your comments are based on

pure BAKWAAS !! the only politics u r

playing is comparison of maestros !!

[saeed2r]

kia baat he

[theanhadnaad]

USTAD BHULLI KHAN Playing tablaaa

[raghav7077]

bhai nazaakat bhai qayamat dhaa di aapne toh..

apna number scrap karo ya orkut accnt ka link bhejo...mazaa aa gaya kasam se..bhai but ek question hai paan thook ke toh gana gaate...

[ranbirdaskai]

kya baat the kings of music, this wat u call real sangeet jina na din raat hai sangeet di pooja or izat kithi ha

[ghandhu]

raag darbari kanada by fateh ali and salamat ali jus shows why these singers do what they do beautiful. this mite sound gay but fuk it if it touches one inside then he can sing but my favourite is Bade Ghulam Ali Khan lol liked the fact he was first in the list

[balachandra108]

Music is not competition, but a devotion for God. If one has devotion in their music, the technical aspects fall away.

[haluakhan]

@balachandra108 1 of the best comments i v ever heard

[mouseinacoffeecup]

Basically you mean to say that only indian passport holder artists are the only artists and artists from other nationalities are not even artists. Right?

LOL

Indians generally aren't that stupid, but man you deserve a gold medal.

Fact is:

1. You are jealous

2. You dont know sh*t about music

3. You dont know Salamat Ali

[sightsandsoundsofpak]

yes u r right indians usually arent that stupid they only ACT stupid.

[harrisrahimi]

any of them livin in canda

[r8rdarklord]

The rest I agree but

Pandit Ulhas kashalkar, Veena Sahasrabuddhe, Ashwini Bhide. You should go and ask them, even they won't say that they are better than Ustad Salamat Ali Khan. BTW, you compare Ustad Salamat Ali to the best barring the ones I listed but you talk about him as if he is some cheap artist.

[OjeeO]

if you dont understand the music just shut you mouth

[Satyasheelrawal]

I will not give Salamat Nazakat PASS MARKS for this. Very poorly sung Kafi (they call it Kafi - the question is which one of Ghulam Farid's Kafi is this?) - no feel and oodles of useless vocal jugglery. Ghulam Farid would cringe at the thought of his work being visited by such insensitivity and needless taanbaazi.

It is not a full-bodied Kafi but parts and phrases picked up from various Kafis of Ghulam Farid. It is called inflicting death limb by limb. Ghulam Farid is 18 c not Baba Farid 13 c.

[princeshahvar]

haha omg 2:25 to :45 is sooo hillarious....his expressions omg hahhaha

[gatka]

Nothing is hillarious, your just a tit.

[princeshahvar]

lol ...this guy has funny expressions but an amazing singer i must say! hats off!

[realshiznit]

Am I the only one who thinks that this was actually a rather jumbled performance?

[penta15786]

Here they are singing in Saraiki language.

This is a Kafi written by Baba Farid Shakar Ganj who is a sufi saint. Baba Farid was the spiritual guiding light, teacher for Hazrat Nizamuddin Aulea who is buried in Delhi. Hazrat Nizamuddin Aulea had a spiritual disciple Amir Khusro who is famous for developing the shape of modern sitar and a few dozen other Indian musical instruments which are part of Indian music today.

Indian music has a spiritual base.

[kianwar]

Dear, it is by Khwaja Ghulam Farid, a great Sufi

poet who is buried in Kot Mithan.

[penta15786]

You need to research it more about this. This is written by Hazrat Baba Fariduddin Ganj-e-Shakar who is buried in Pat Patan near Multan.

[frazgilani]

it is by Khawaja Ghulam Farid.........

[gurujio]

waah kya baat hai....these r the type of videos that bless youtube and make it a great place...no words to express..the legends..n yes on tabla..is ustad bhulli khan sahib ji...with his unique style and humble attitude..thanx a million for sharing ..

[acyutananda]

What a piece.

[moonshelf]

The best singer ever

[acyutananda]

Personally I like their Dhrupad SO much.

Tabla is cool here - simple, funky, unique.

[theanhadnaad]

no way is that Bhulli Khan on tabla???

[sambhale1]

i never listen this fantastic maestro recitle in my life. its outstanding i never fogot this thing

[gorfjorf2112]

Two of the greatest vocalists in the world.

[griffin512]

did any one notice that the tablas shai or gab is off center ?

[afgprience]

i think its an afghann taal tropia

[naqibaba]

Visble difference between Salamat khan and Nazakat khan.Salamat dominates!!!!!isnt it???

[pk2dk]

LUV IT ! great work, bro .

[past594]

Its not bhulli khan on tabla. It looks like Shaukat Hussain's Brother- Jan Al-Hasan

[bhacg001]

WATTT Khan sahib has a brother that plays tablaa....well i hav 2 believe u past594 u like the guru of all tabla solo on youtube!

[aloneinamerica]

Great Murki on 3:53. awesome performance thank you for uploading, keep it up.

[bhowmick1977]

Whoever has posted this,,May God bless you..really xcellent work by you..

[slamatsingh]

amazing people who are born to create great magic in the music industry

[sweetwhisper1512]

Toronto tablaguy this taal is purely a kaafii thekaa. I have never heard this taal utelized in thumri. Yes guys this is legendry Bhulli khan accompanying Ustad Salamat Ali Khansahib and Nazakat Ali Khansahib.

[griffin512]

i luv this more and more.the tabla is from another planet. GOD BLESS KHAN SAHIB JI

[Kuripunjabikuri]

woh woh i really want to hug you thanks alot plz post more

[asaavri]

great collection

[cheemaqwert]

is this bhulli khan on tabla

[asdube]

It looks like Ustad Bhulli but if it isn't him, then it is possible that it is Ustad Zameer Ahmed Khan. He sure looks like Bhulli Khan sahib though.

[torontostablaguy]

this taal is used commonly in thumris and kafi gayaki

[anilbhalla]

what a performance , i wish i had more of their performanses

[zrahin]

Thanks, what are the thekas for this particular kehrva? I can't make it out.

[zrahin]

What taal is this? Sounds like the Afghani seven beat Pashto taal. Thanks for the post. This is a pleasant addition to the youtube collection.

[jaleesraza1227]

my man where do u get the idea about afgan taal

[kjaan]

Great video clip of two great ustads. Please post more of these two giants.

[ahmadmalik007]

Dear Dr. Kashyap,

Thanks for the comments yes it was performance on BBC