But you know, you shouldn't joke about that, because it will give statists ideas. "you know it is unfair that some people have two perfectly good kidneys and only need one....."
"REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH is like someone who is stealing your kideny, it's not redistribution of kidenys! no! it's a violation, IT'S THEFT THAT IS WHAT REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IS ABOUT!" this my man is circular reasoning... then he ends saying:
"we (you) must, we must, we must" guys don't let you fool by this guy. first circular reasoning and as a conlcusion of this reasoning we must.... no! we "might" but we are not forced to "must"! this is propaganda...
Sure it is. But as his audience it is propaganda that we are receptive to. If you are new to Stefan's videos I would urge you to check out some of his more informative videos such as The Story of your Enslavement or The Money sold abroad is you. This is more of an informal preaching to the choir video.
@Biel7318 Have you missed most of what he talks about? I only pop in this channel every once in a while and I still caught that he's referring to his usual Shifting wealth = theft argument. Do you really expect a guy to rehearse the entire foundation in every video? He has made the case before and, to be honest, this is a basic tenet of anarchic thought, rehearsed ad nauseum. If you want to address that, search: "taxation as theft" on the internet and YT specifically.
@stefbot@stephanorion regarding the documentary Kymatica, the essential message I believe there (aside from the pseuo-science) is that the collapse of this civilization is the result of humanity's collective ego. See teachers like J.Krishnamurti or Eckhart Tolle. They are not religious, it is a spiritual message. I would highly suggest reading/listening to them. @stefbot could you comment?
@rayoc I will look them up as of now, I'm actually aware of both but... In a video of Eckhart Tolle I got this cult vibe. He reminded me of a cult leader but.. I'll learn more about him and approach it with a more open mind. I'll try not to judge a book by it's cover.
@TheSMW84 the bigger problem is the bailouts.these firms committed this fraud because they knew they were backstopped by the federal government and the federal reserve.regulations just serve as a power grab for big corporations as they write the policies for themselves to drive smaller competitors out of business.the economy was already incredibly regulated when the economic crash began.blaming the free market is just a ploy for the people who caused the mess to gain more power from it
Ron Paul is genuine person and seemingly a good man, but Herman Cain? Seriously? He is nothing more than an automoton robot of the Koch brothers' creation.
I'm wondering how using negative reinforcement for failure to pass standardized tests, either by the state or by corporations, will result in anything other than teachers/administrators cheating to make sure they are not punished? These punative measures were introduced by corporatist Freidmanites in order to wreck the statist model and make it easier to privatize the school system, so I'm wondering how you can really blame the State to begin with? Shouldn't the issue be standardized testing?
@chegvra The issue is that the teachers cheat and they teach their students that cheating is good, as long as they dont get caught. The end justifies the means.
Greetings from Finland! I like many of your videos but you say a lot that the state is "the evil one" so I have been thinking what is your idea of perfect culture or social structure. Have you made any video about it yet? I would like to see an like "The Story of Your Enslavement" about it.
At this time i support the idea of zeitgeist movement and want to hear other options. Becouse this where we live now is not on option!
Problem with the conversation going on in the comments here is that some believe banks are needed to create money(has value) or gold producers(told this a few days ago), when fiat or gold are both secondary representations of what holds value, our promissory obligations
Realize the true creditor/obligor relationship then imagine a monetary system(counting?) which wont rob you/make you finance your own labor/production from them, at interest?
@ott0Kitam I don't even know why I bother commenting on kernel klink's videos ,it just attracts people that haven't even got two brain cells to rub together mate ,I guess it reflects that preposterous Austrian school of loons he belongs to that wont admit the interest & the banks they advocate are destroying us.People are their own worst enemies & klink here is no better promoting division, confusion & unqualified assumptions with his Stalag 13 bullshit economics that was disproven 43 years ago.
@jeffiek Mathematically Perfected economy a 43 year "proof " of solution that no one has disproved not even the Austrians to this day .If one advocates INTEREST one is advocating the very banks who rob us all today . If banks didn't charge interest they simply couldn't exist so any one promoting banking in one form or anther are your enemy No.1 really because MPE demonstrates & proves interest is terminal , actually MPE proves banks even steal the principal we actually create on conception .
@chotaboy66 I think(pray lol) once people understand the subversion of promissory obligations better, and what that single distortion means, they will come around :)
could you talk about your thoughts on NDAA (signed) bill? How can there be a revolution if they declare martial law and mute potential leaders of ... ie ... OWS.
@stefbot Stef, I saw a documentary called Kymatica it's really insightful and due to it I'm somewhat conflicting in the whole "New World Order" ideas thoughts?
a month of Freedomain Radio equals the insight gained from one (1) mushroom trip, since time slows down in mushroom-state.of-mind. Who the hell is Steve?!
@annewilken No man Adderall is epic, so is Stefan Molynuex. But Adderall can also be scary as shit (if you over do it) , just as Stefan Molynuex (when he overdos it).
Yo dude dont get this wrong but i took alot of Adderall on new years with my buddys and we had a deep disussion about exactly the same shit while walking threw town trying to find a place thats still open at 10 in the morning. So what iam trying to say is: Your brain normal = normal brain on drugs. Oh well i guess its a good think if your a cult leader ;)
Unfortunately, for every person who develops their beliefs through rigorous questioning and debate (ie with those who disagree), there is an army of sheltered, mindless, indoctrinated drones.
It would surprise me if this empire collapse would reverse. It would certainly be a social dynamic that is unique in history. It never happened to my knowledge that a military spread out indebted elite, shrunk back and gave a V shaped recovery of freedom. The Spanish empire went bust and bust and bust and there is another one coming up. 350 years of bust going. Egypt:2$/day income,Greece 3000 years of gvt, still going bust.
Canadians have a strange habit of fading in and out- imagining they're American citizens or very close to believing some sort of kinship/link to what is going on down here. Of course American citizens have themselves been completely disenfranchised. Listen, everyone- "The State" is dead & buried. There is no army kicking in your door- it's been internalized, like an over-hyped flu virus. Your mind is fettered with invisible chains. STOP LOOKING AT SCREENS. Your 5 senses are useless against it!
@JackofOneTrade567 Statism isn't dead. Statism is improving gradually over time, with hiccups along the way. Just as a dysfunctional family does not prove that family life is dead, nor do dysfunctional governments prove that statism is dead. And an oversized government is not a failure of statism. It is a problem which the American founders forsaw, and gave us the tools to deal with...
@mouthpiece200 Yeah. Which of those tools would that be? The piece of toilet paper called the constitution? Big government is the primary failure of statism. Own responsibility for once in your bloody lives, statists.
It's too bad that Ron Paul will not win the election just to help show the people behind him why what he says he wants to do (cutting the department of the EPA, Education, etc..) is not possible.
@stefbot,any vids on the food you eat & don't eat? lots of info out there about the poisons 'they' put in our food & i would like to hear your opinion on this.
Quite a bit of generalising there: RT Television, The Matrix and even your podcasts, Stef, are all part of "the media". Mainstream televised news and Press is perhaps a better way of putting it.
Personal gain is useless if the human race as a whole is finished within 30 years. Money, religion, nationlism and other destructive illusions need to start fading away for a better tomorrow. Will it happen? I doubt it, but the monetary system is breaking down and all hell is breaking loose. 30.000 children die of poverty every day. Mad world.
Philosophy? Where? Ayn Rand? No sorry that's not a philosophy that's a huge cat shit wrapped in a dead rat and served up on a silver platter. Enjoy you meal.
We must prepare our emotions for a more crazy wild year than most are talking about. The state will throw everything they have at us in its dying stages. It is a little bit concerning for me that no-one is taking the 2012 thing seriously. All it will take is a sneeze and all hell will break loose. There seems to a be 'bury the head in the sand' mentality about it. No one is talking about it, and that means something is probably inevitable which shocks all of us. Prepare and fortify your minds.
Mathematically perfected economy disproves the Austrian theory moreover its what happens before the issuance of any representation namely INTEREST imposed that TERMINALLY depletes any monetary circulation that only ever consists of SOME principal at most. NO NO interest is not found under the couch STEF? keep spreading the LIES of economy you will be remembered for your UNQUALIFIED economic doctrine that would fail in any second grade math exam & heres YOU talking about education? Right ON mate
@siftyfour LMAO Believing is one thing BUT knowing is another so ones labor & production to another is worth nothing of value ? No theory quite the contrary its provable just using mere logic.
@chotaboy66 There is no such thing as the value of a thing. Things are only "valued" by individuals. It differs not only person to person but each person's valuation of a given thing is also in constant flux. Thus valuation is subjective. These differing valuations among people allow for exchange in a free market.
Interest is the premium charged by the owner of the principle for foregoing his right to use his money for the time it is loaned. Would you forbid such agreements?
@Mosier2 I think you better look up what CONSIDERATION means & the essentials of contract law before you make any more preposterous claims? If banks gives up NO CONSIDERATION there is no loan & we are the creators of principal (not principle) by issuing our very own " PROMISSORY OBLIGATION " that has the only lawful CONSIDERATION in any ALLEGED loan from a bank.I certainly would forbid interest simply because it TERMINALLY depletes circulation that only ever consists of some principal at most.
@Moragauth If you can logically demonstrate ,qualify & prove what consideration of value a bank gives up of its own in any purported loan to one of us & logically demonstrate ,qualify & prove how interest is created & issued into circulation in the first place I will concede its a make believe problem but of course if you cant you have to concede these issues are a very real that seriously needs addressing rather than just evasion , ignorance & unqualified dismissal of provable facts.
@chotaboy66 Value is subjective, so I don't need to "prove" it, anymore than I need to "prove" the value of soda pop to its buyer. Interest is a time-bound phenomenon, arising from the fact that money now is more valuable than money in the future as it can be used to service more immediate wants, all else being equal. Hence pure interest is the price for the lender being deprived of money now. It can be repaid by increasing productivity. I fail to see what the issue is with its -
@Moragauth How can paid interest be an equal representation if you cant even demonstrate logically how its even created & issued into circulation when the PRINCIPAL ONLY is ever issued into circulation in any purported loan from a bank ? Moreover nor can you logically demonstrate what a bank gives up or risk of its own " CONSIDERATION OF VALUE " in any purported loan to one of us to even justify interest let alone a debt owed to a bank? Epic failure its not rocket science really..
@chotaboy66 Equal representation of what? I have no idea what you mean by the principal only being issued into circulation or how this connects to interest being a charge on resources lent out now for future repayment. I have demonstrated what a bank gives up. Usage of its money now for the satisfaction of more urgent wants. You may not like it. I don't give a fuck. The failure is all yours, and even though it's not rocket science, you seem to do poorly at it.
@Moragauth When one buys a house from the outset of a loan one is only borrowing principal to pay for that house,what one pays back to a bank is really 2X , 3X the principal in interest SO what one pays back to the bank allows a bank to steal more out of circulation than what was issued into circulation upon that sale & you haven't demonstrated what consideration a bank gives up in phony loan contract nor can the bank of england for your information in our freedom of information requests.
@chotaboy66 You're regurgitating the same nonsense now. 2x, 3x what? Interest is a premium paid for being able to use money now that the lender cannot until it is repaid. It is worth more to them now than in the future, hence they demand this premium. I've demonstrated what "consideration" a bank gives up. You are constantly confusing the current system with what interest is in the abstract. It's getting embarrassing.
@Moragauth You're regurgitating the same nonsense now. 2x, 3x what?
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THE PRINCIPAL?? KNOCK KNOCK cant you read?
Compound interest owed or charged on a phony loan over the years is often TWO TIMES or THREE TIMES the PRINCIPAL. Principal thats only ever issued or paid into circulation upon a sale from the outset of the bullshit loan from a bank . If you don't get it well what can I say I'm attempting to communicate with the intellectually disabled that cant think logically for themselves.
@chotaboy66 I can read. I think you're making up numbers. Not that it matters. If the debtor freely agrees to incur the debt there is no issue with it, whether it's 0.2x or 200x the value of the "principal".
"If you don't get it well what can I say I'm attempting to communicate with the intellectually disabled that cant think logically for themselves."
@chotaboy66 "How can paid interest .... when the PRINCIPAL ONLY is ever issued into circulation"
This is easy. I lend you $10 for 1 yr @ 10%. During the year you make a widget. I buy the widget for $1. The money now exists in your hands to pay back the loan with interest.
It matters not if I have given you a real $10 or simply printed it. If it is printed ( as in the current system ) then I have not provided any "consideration of value". Regardless, the math works.
@jeffiek Shit heres another why even bother with your interest if you pay it to me & i pay it back & It dose matter if you havent given me something of EQUAL value,today they print a secondary issuance of one of our promissory obligations only our promissory obligations has consideration backed by our labor & production & the liquidity value of the property in question & the secondary issuance has no consideration given up by the bank & it doesn't EQUAL our former issuance because of interest
@jeffiek This is were your WRONG because WE give up the ONLY consideration in the CURRENT SYSTEM & WE create the money on conception which is CURRENT SYSTEM.
So it dose bloody matter if one has not given up something of equal value BECAUSE thats the banks intervention printing an UN EQUAL misrepresentation of our promissory obligations we have to each other allowing them to steal principal & charge us interest that terminally depletes circulation that consists of some principal at most .
@jeffiek How did you answer that? You just implied that theres extra monies in circulation that next year that the guy could earn, meanwhile overlooking all the other people existing are fighting for those same dollars floating around circulation, which still consists of only principal(no interest) yet they too must pay back this interest on whatever theyve financed
The whole systems still saturated in terminal(artificial) indebtedness that can only multiply over long enough period of time
@ott0Kitam If individuals put themselves in debt when they foolishly assume their productivity will go up far more than will suffice to repay it, whom do they have to blame but themselves? The monetary unit is not at issue. Any quantity will suffice.
A creditor(gives up property) would be paid in full, & there should be an obligation for the obligor to pay the principal out of circulation over time. A promissory obligation represents a thing of value, so retire that principal(that represented value) over time as the property depreciates/is consumed... To make good on an obligation(debt) retire the principal, at the rate of consumption over a determined time.
@Moragauth Lol why include interest? For what reason? Just coz the banks do, doesnt mean we should
If you purchase a 100,000 dollar home, it costs banks a few pennies to pay the true creditor and issue 100,000 for that house, and then deny him interest...
While you, using your own labor & production, owe the bank the 100,000 (that cost them 10 fuckin cents to steal from you lol), plus interest...
That is not very economical, a child should see this from reading those few sentences above
@ott0Kitam Why give up usage of resources available for the satiation of immediate wants, losing access to them whilst they are lent out, for the identical amount in the future?
The fact that you feel the need to interject "lol" into your sentences all the time doesn't undo the fact that the same resources now are worth more than resources in the future. You can call it "theft" all you like but so long as no one, in a pure market order, is forced to incur it, it is not theft.
@Moragauth And just what resources is any banks give up in any purported loan? Really? What property or thing of value is at risk for a bank? None??? So why pay them to steal from us?
Im laughing, coz its retarded to impose such artificial debts on ourselves :)
@jeffiek I posted proof that it's mathematically possible, independent of system..
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All you did was demonstrate that you pay me an equal amount of interest so I can pay that back to you hardly a solution , why even bloody charge interest in the beginning if thats the case, your math is a pointless exercise going around in circles that only demonstrates the solution is not to charge any Interest thats all .
@chotaboy66 It matters not what the creditors do with the interest. It's their problem. It dissolves the notion that the money does not exist in the system, however, along with the notion that productivity increases (i.e. producing more goods, by definition demanded by others) can be used to pay back the interest. Your mathematical "problem" exists in your head alone.
@Moragauth The true creditor is the one who gives up property in any phony loan from & they are denied the INTEREST ? So it dose matter what they do with the interest because they are denied the bloody interest & thus its not spent into circulation rather its stolen laundered out of circulation by the banks, to re inflate circulation a government borrows that back as national debt? The problem is the BANK stealing circulation ,its not that hard they're thieves & it all starts on the ground floor
@chotaboy66 Yes, that is the problem. What has this got to do with the concept of interest in the abstract? I am still awaiting to hear what the mathematically perfected "solution" to the economy is.
My math is a repudiation of your drivel. If mine is true, YOURS is false. That is far from pointless. How do you expect to understand economics when you can't do the equivalent of 2+2?
You build a "theory", and teach it no less, on balderdash.
You don't think, you feel. Then you mistake those feelings for thought.
@Moragauth Over a life time of a purported loan pending on the rates of interest charged whats paid to a bank out of circulation is often 2X,3X the initial principal that was only ever issued into circulation in the first place?.Interest WE PAY at any rate depletes a monumental amount out of circulation where banks steal & launder this money only to loan it back as national debt to re inflate circulation making it mathematically impossible for any government to pay down any sum of national debt
@chotaboy66 So you're referring to a problem that solely conctional reserve banking under a fiat currency with legal tender status as a problem with interest under full reserve banking with freely competing currencies? Governments encourage and foster this system so I've no sympathy for them. In principle, the debt is repayable, but since governments incur it without consulting their populace, it is junk debt. Non existent.
And I'm not even saying the whole "mathematical" thing is right. Technically speaking that debt can be repaid by increasing productivity sufficiently.
@chotaboy66 Back when I went to law school consideration was a bargained for exchange whereby each party does something (or forebears doing) something they otherwise were not obligated to do. I suspect your objection (as is mine) is to fiat money and factional reserve banking. Forget banks for a moment. Two people contract for a loan. One gives up his right to use his loaned funds for a time. The other agrees to pay interest on the principle for its use. There is consideration.
@Mosier2 I'm sorry there are certain contract essentials that have to be present in a contract.You haven't a clue you write forget banks then you contradict your own words writing two people contract for a loan talking in circles, what I'm referring to is the only thing that has value in any purported loan which is the first issuance of the obligors promissory obligation or note that only has one signature & its not the banks .Consideration means GIVING UP SOMETHING OF VALUE banks give up SQUAT
@chotaboy66 I used an example of a loan agreement entered by two people to demonstrate such agreements have consideration on both sides. I specifically excluded banks from the example as fractional reserve banking allows for the creation of fiat money out of thin air, thus to that extent they are not giving up something of theirs. To the extent reserve requirements apply the bank is not able to use those funds backing the loan for its duration so even there is some consideration.
@Mosier2 You forget the essentials of contract law also has to have genuine consent or free consent where any contract is void if its a misrepresentation, misleading representation . Thats what todays BANK money is which a misrepresentation of the former issuance of one of our very own promissory obligations . Todays money is really the EVIDENCE of our promissory obligations that DOESN'T EQUAL our promissory obligations because the principal is stolen on conception & the interest thats terminal
@Moragauth If anyone is advocating banking or interest they are trying to justify the current system which is a theft of our labor & production we have to each other not to any thieving bank who GIVES UP JACK & steals it mate. Banks are our enemy No1 . I will caps this so you understand NO EXCEPTIONS & I MEAN ALL BANKS PUBLIC OR PRIVATE BIG OR SMALL .
@Moragauth All you have to do is click my name hey I have like 600 hundred videos on MPE & teach it ,, I rest my case intellectually disabled people who cant think logically for themselves here on klinks channel there always is .I have proven you wrong on all counts & you came back with this drivel garbage because your ego cant justify you words MATE , You sincerely deserve whats coming & Its people like you who are your own worst enemy not the banks hey .FU & good bye
@chotaboy66 If you cannot articulate you probably don't understand it. You've done nothing so far to prove me wrong but continuously describe how banks work now as an indictment of interest. You can't handle that your opponents do not hold to the strawman you ascribed to them and now throw a hissy fit. Well tough.
@Moragauth Like 100s of videos on my channel articulating what I'm writing & you wont go THERE not to mention the 20 odd narrated by myself & you dismiss my articulation without even looking at them FIRST? .
Would care to debate me over skype so I can upload it on you tube , you have something to study if you think you can win debate now theres an advantage FOR YOU TOUGH HEY?
Those who aren't already awake have little interest in waking up. As the state pushes fear levels to new heights this year (their only option now) with another false flag/ pandemic, more police state control etc, the masses will become even more child-like and embrace mass media and the state 'protection' like a teddy bear.
For them it's too late for the 'stick of reason'. Only a carrot even bigger than the state's carrot will work now!
The proven existence of DFET (no matter who's hands it's currently in) completely changes the paradigm and makes today's fears re the economy and banking system almost irrelevant. Plus it inevitably calls into question the role of (or even the need for) governments as we know them today.
B4 you dismiss the subject, know that two of NIST's contractors for 9/11 report (ARA & SAIC) are involved in DET. Also ARA are co founders of 'Directed Energy Professionals Society'.
God, I needed this. My niece, who is 15, called me 'fucked up in the head' because I express views similar to yours. It was hurtful at first, but then I remembered your video about mental illness and the madness of the world and I felt better. Thank you so much for these brilliant talks, they have helped me so much.
It is always easy to talk from the side line Stefbot. Humbleness is something alien to you. It is really funny when you think about what your ultimate goal is. The whole world tuning into freedomainrdio how to save the world. Luckily that is never going to happen.
Stefan, you think you could do a video on public sector union alternatives? I agree on your views on public sector unions but what could be done to replace them. We still need teachers, cops, and firefighters.
@1977Melville Who protects your car from damage? Well you get insurance right? Who protects you from having a breakdown in your car? Breakdown cover (insurance) right?
If the government is so good at providing teachers/cops/fire fighters why not let them take care of your car insurance too?
We do not need "teachers" what we need is LEARNERS! People that actually want to learn! You can find out anything, if you want to! With the internet all the information you could ever need is there!
Redistribution of kidneys. Brilliant.
But you know, you shouldn't joke about that, because it will give statists ideas. "you know it is unfair that some people have two perfectly good kidneys and only need one....."
eleutheromaniac 1 day ago
it will take 100 years if we pushg now. If we do not, there will be another 2000 years before we have the chance again.
theawesomebeliever 1 week ago
Overly optimistic if you think things are going to go our way this year.
hagbard72 2 weeks ago
Predictions … mmm Molyneux. Expectations? Maybe better, you are still not a divine being.
TerrierBram 1 month ago
revise your train of though... you're receptive to circular reasoning? good for you.
Biel7318 1 month ago
this guy is using circular reasoning:
"REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH is like someone who is stealing your kideny, it's not redistribution of kidenys! no! it's a violation, IT'S THEFT THAT IS WHAT REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH IS ABOUT!" this my man is circular reasoning... then he ends saying:
"we (you) must, we must, we must" guys don't let you fool by this guy. first circular reasoning and as a conlcusion of this reasoning we must.... no! we "might" but we are not forced to "must"! this is propaganda...
Biel7318 1 month ago
@Biel7318
Sure it is. But as his audience it is propaganda that we are receptive to. If you are new to Stefan's videos I would urge you to check out some of his more informative videos such as The Story of your Enslavement or The Money sold abroad is you. This is more of an informal preaching to the choir video.
Caturdayz 1 month ago
@Biel7318 Have you missed most of what he talks about? I only pop in this channel every once in a while and I still caught that he's referring to his usual Shifting wealth = theft argument. Do you really expect a guy to rehearse the entire foundation in every video? He has made the case before and, to be honest, this is a basic tenet of anarchic thought, rehearsed ad nauseum. If you want to address that, search: "taxation as theft" on the internet and YT specifically.
AndreisEntaro 1 month ago
i have been asking u to comment on SERGE MONAST has anyone seen this or know his story STEPH PLEASE TALK ABOUT SERGE MONAST
twostrongtoo 1 month ago
@stefbot @stephanorion regarding the documentary Kymatica, the essential message I believe there (aside from the pseuo-science) is that the collapse of this civilization is the result of humanity's collective ego. See teachers like J.Krishnamurti or Eckhart Tolle. They are not religious, it is a spiritual message. I would highly suggest reading/listening to them. @stefbot could you comment?
rayoc 1 month ago
@rayoc I will look them up as of now, I'm actually aware of both but... In a video of Eckhart Tolle I got this cult vibe. He reminded me of a cult leader but.. I'll learn more about him and approach it with a more open mind. I'll try not to judge a book by it's cover.
stephanorion 1 month ago
Stef ..it should be pronounced "fuck-you-shema"
jonesey5168 1 month ago
Clinton that is, not Bush.
TheSMW84 1 month ago
What? The derivatives were not regulated. They were exempted from regulation by the legislation signed into law by Bush in 2000.
Pretty disingenuous to then act like it was regulation which caused the harm.
TheSMW84 1 month ago
@TheSMW84 the bigger problem is the bailouts.these firms committed this fraud because they knew they were backstopped by the federal government and the federal reserve.regulations just serve as a power grab for big corporations as they write the policies for themselves to drive smaller competitors out of business.the economy was already incredibly regulated when the economic crash began.blaming the free market is just a ploy for the people who caused the mess to gain more power from it
Juggalo4Peace 1 month ago in playlist watch
You look like that Italian pm.
TheGangstalouie 1 month ago
lol "Everyone failed their saving throws"
ummed98 1 month ago
If year 2012 is going to be decisive, then I'm very happy. Finally, something should be soon decided, because this waiting is kind of boring.
qedisk 1 month ago
Stefan was on a roll in this podcast, point after point, and with humor
jasontrucker007 1 month ago
i think you're giving the general population too much credit when you say they are ahead of the media
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erdal0 1 month ago
Ron Paul is genuine person and seemingly a good man, but Herman Cain? Seriously? He is nothing more than an automoton robot of the Koch brothers' creation.
chegvra 1 month ago
Fukiyama??
brightgeistmovies 1 month ago
I'm wondering how using negative reinforcement for failure to pass standardized tests, either by the state or by corporations, will result in anything other than teachers/administrators cheating to make sure they are not punished? These punative measures were introduced by corporatist Freidmanites in order to wreck the statist model and make it easier to privatize the school system, so I'm wondering how you can really blame the State to begin with? Shouldn't the issue be standardized testing?
chegvra 1 month ago
@chegvra The issue is that the teachers cheat and they teach their students that cheating is good, as long as they dont get caught. The end justifies the means.
megatherium100 1 month ago
I didn't expect a DnD reference when watching this, awesome. Great video Stef!
blinddoctorwho 1 month ago
Greetings from Finland! I like many of your videos but you say a lot that the state is "the evil one" so I have been thinking what is your idea of perfect culture or social structure. Have you made any video about it yet? I would like to see an like "The Story of Your Enslavement" about it.
At this time i support the idea of zeitgeist movement and want to hear other options. Becouse this where we live now is not on option!
srry for my english. hope you answer soon
suomi222 1 month ago
@suomi222
he s got two free books on his website, everyday anarchy and practical anarchy. If you care about reading...
badseed86 1 month ago
I'll start by sharing this on my everything.
nass1 1 month ago
Problem with the conversation going on in the comments here is that some believe banks are needed to create money(has value) or gold producers(told this a few days ago), when fiat or gold are both secondary representations of what holds value, our promissory obligations
Realize the true creditor/obligor relationship then imagine a monetary system(counting?) which wont rob you/make you finance your own labor/production from them, at interest?
Why borrow what we create? Fuckin austrians lol
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam I don't even know why I bother commenting on kernel klink's videos ,it just attracts people that haven't even got two brain cells to rub together mate ,I guess it reflects that preposterous Austrian school of loons he belongs to that wont admit the interest & the banks they advocate are destroying us.People are their own worst enemies & klink here is no better promoting division, confusion & unqualified assumptions with his Stalag 13 bullshit economics that was disproven 43 years ago.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 "Austrian school of loons he belongs to that wont admit the interest & the banks they advocate are destroying us."
Source please. I know of no Austrian economist that advocates the banking system as it exists.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@jeffiek Mathematically Perfected economy a 43 year "proof " of solution that no one has disproved not even the Austrians to this day .If one advocates INTEREST one is advocating the very banks who rob us all today . If banks didn't charge interest they simply couldn't exist so any one promoting banking in one form or anther are your enemy No.1 really because MPE demonstrates & proves interest is terminal , actually MPE proves banks even steal the principal we actually create on conception .
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 ".If one advocates INTEREST "
I put the math right here on youtube. It only takes a few sentences.
Can you show an error or not?
jeffiek 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 What's this "solution"?
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth MATHEMATICALLY PERFECTED ECONOMY for crying out loud man
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 And what does this "solution" consist in?
Moragauth 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 I think(pray lol) once people understand the subversion of promissory obligations better, and what that single distortion means, they will come around :)
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 "that haven't even got two brain cells to rub together mate"
So show me ( the one without 2 brain cells ) where my math error is. You've had 27 minutes. It shouldn't be that hard.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam "when fiat or gold are both secondary representations of what holds value, our promissory obligations"
Gold is a commodity. It no more represents "promissory obligations" than a bag of sugar does.
"Why borrow what we create? Fuckin austrians lol"
Source please. I know of no Austrian economist that advocates the banking system as it exists.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@jeffiek Do austrians advocate the existence of banks/banking? Yes.
Do they advocate charging interest? Yes.
Did Hayek state that "banking can be a very profittable business" Yes.
Did Hayek state (paraphrasing) "currency should be taken from the government and returned to private hands, where it rightfully belongs"? Yes
So... ?
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam
"Do austrians advocate the existence of banks/banking? Yes.
Do they advocate charging interest? Yes.
Did Hayek state that "banking can be a very profittable business" Yes."
FAIL. That describes multiple systems, not necessarily the current one.
"currency should be taken from the government and returned to private hands, where it rightfully belongs"?
FAIL. The current system is not in private hands.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam How to stabalize our representations of value might be the question.
BrainInSkull 1 month ago
@BrainInSkull Yes. Representation would be nice wouldnt it?
Already a mathematically perfected answer, for 40+ years, MPE, and Mike Montagne :)
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
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@ott0Kitam "Already a mathematically perfected answer, for 40+ years, MPE, and Mike Montagne :)"
Fraud.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@learninglessons1 I love it too :))
zg76 1 month ago
@mouthpiece200 If your measure of improvement is how fast the ship is sinking, then yes statism is improving.
JackofOneTrade567 1 month ago
I'm a little too proud that I got the DnD reference...
karthadastim 1 month ago
truth!
catfish222banjo 1 month ago
truth!
catfish222banjo 1 month ago
@learninglessons1 happy new year to you as well, thank you so much!
stefbot 1 month ago
Hi,
could you talk about your thoughts on NDAA (signed) bill? How can there be a revolution if they declare martial law and mute potential leaders of ... ie ... OWS.
Thanks in advance!
MyEconomics101 1 month ago
@MyEconomics101 thanks, I spoke about that recently, here on YouTube
stefbot 1 month ago
@stefbot Stef, I saw a documentary called Kymatica it's really insightful and due to it I'm somewhat conflicting in the whole "New World Order" ideas thoughts?
stephanorion 1 month ago
You should do an interview with Praxgirl in 2012,the logical consistency would bear near overwhelming.
dirtbagstatus 1 month ago
@dirtbagstatus *be (not bear)
dirtbagstatus 1 month ago
Machine gun metaphor Molyneux!
It's a good day for metaphors.
MrStillmans 1 month ago
Happy New Year Stef!!!
matti1003 1 month ago
Why do you have a Danish microphone?
The one that says "røde" it means red in danish :)
Mediaxere 1 month ago
How you can say "theft fingering pocket fingers" while keeping a straight face is beyond me LOL I love it!
Brownyman 1 month ago
Nice review Stef! Gotta keep on our toes!
Beausafk 1 month ago
why do you use 2 microphones?
Kpa1983 1 month ago
@Kpa1983 one is for the Sunday show, the other is for the camera
stefbot 1 month ago
thankx
landloper1986 1 month ago
a month of Freedomain Radio equals the insight gained from one (1) mushroom trip, since time slows down in mushroom-state.of-mind. Who the hell is Steve?!
ykui1 1 month ago
And, may I add that there is NO Philosophical Review anywhere in this Dingo Crap!
alectraproject 1 month ago
You are far too old to talk like a 14yr old.Get a grip and be taken seriously Mate.
alectraproject 1 month ago
No dissing adderal or Stefan Molynuex...=)
annewilken 1 month ago
@annewilken No man Adderall is epic, so is Stefan Molynuex. But Adderall can also be scary as shit (if you over do it) , just as Stefan Molynuex (when he overdos it).
cyberlibertarian 1 month ago
Yo dude dont get this wrong but i took alot of Adderall on new years with my buddys and we had a deep disussion about exactly the same shit while walking threw town trying to find a place thats still open at 10 in the morning. So what iam trying to say is: Your brain normal = normal brain on drugs. Oh well i guess its a good think if your a cult leader ;)
cyberlibertarian 1 month ago
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Unfortunately, for every person who develops their beliefs through rigorous questioning and debate (ie with those who disagree), there is an army of sheltered, mindless, indoctrinated drones.
Andybaby 1 month ago
It would surprise me if this empire collapse would reverse. It would certainly be a social dynamic that is unique in history. It never happened to my knowledge that a military spread out indebted elite, shrunk back and gave a V shaped recovery of freedom. The Spanish empire went bust and bust and bust and there is another one coming up. 350 years of bust going. Egypt:2$/day income,Greece 3000 years of gvt, still going bust.
modelmark 1 month ago
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Andybaby 1 month ago
Great video, articulate and thought provoking! 2012 is going to be a great year, hopefully for civil liberty and not stateism.
markeagles8008 1 month ago
Canadians have a strange habit of fading in and out- imagining they're American citizens or very close to believing some sort of kinship/link to what is going on down here. Of course American citizens have themselves been completely disenfranchised. Listen, everyone- "The State" is dead & buried. There is no army kicking in your door- it's been internalized, like an over-hyped flu virus. Your mind is fettered with invisible chains. STOP LOOKING AT SCREENS. Your 5 senses are useless against it!
hozayamz 1 month ago
thank you.
jadepatnode 1 month ago
Exactly!!! (Our way) Two way communication vs (Their way) one way communication. Discourse vs Decree
searchforknowledge1 1 month ago
statism may be dead as a philosophy, but who/what is being blamed for the failings of the state?
JackofOneTrade567 1 month ago
@JackofOneTrade567 This is what i want to know
sonofagunM357 1 month ago
@JackofOneTrade567 Statism isn't dead. Statism is improving gradually over time, with hiccups along the way. Just as a dysfunctional family does not prove that family life is dead, nor do dysfunctional governments prove that statism is dead. And an oversized government is not a failure of statism. It is a problem which the American founders forsaw, and gave us the tools to deal with...
mouthpiece200 1 month ago
@mouthpiece200 Yeah. Which of those tools would that be? The piece of toilet paper called the constitution? Big government is the primary failure of statism. Own responsibility for once in your bloody lives, statists.
Moragauth 1 month ago
James Brown was so fantastic :) I'm glad you know about him StefBot :)
spystyle 1 month ago
It's too bad that Ron Paul will not win the election just to help show the people behind him why what he says he wants to do (cutting the department of the EPA, Education, etc..) is not possible.
ZiggleFingers 1 month ago
@stefbot,any vids on the food you eat & don't eat? lots of info out there about the poisons 'they' put in our food & i would like to hear your opinion on this.
smelly socialists :) ha ha
kingneddy 1 month ago
Quite a bit of generalising there: RT Television, The Matrix and even your podcasts, Stef, are all part of "the media". Mainstream televised news and Press is perhaps a better way of putting it.
Julianw141 1 month ago
@VoxJoxx: Bye bye.
andyissemicool 1 month ago
Call James Randi and tell him to hand over the million dollars Stef.
lordthawkeye 1 month ago
The Fukiyama Disaster??? What's that??? LOL
alCIAdadidit 1 month ago
great video as usual
techriot 1 month ago
Personal gain is useless if the human race as a whole is finished within 30 years. Money, religion, nationlism and other destructive illusions need to start fading away for a better tomorrow. Will it happen? I doubt it, but the monetary system is breaking down and all hell is breaking loose. 30.000 children die of poverty every day. Mad world.
Strangepete 1 month ago
Philosophy? Where? Ayn Rand? No sorry that's not a philosophy that's a huge cat shit wrapped in a dead rat and served up on a silver platter. Enjoy you meal.
ThePositiveAussie 1 month ago
obfuscation, there's a word you don't hear everyday. :)
deadlizard64 1 month ago
@deadlizard64 That is a very under-used word by most people
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
We must prepare our emotions for a more crazy wild year than most are talking about. The state will throw everything they have at us in its dying stages. It is a little bit concerning for me that no-one is taking the 2012 thing seriously. All it will take is a sneeze and all hell will break loose. There seems to a be 'bury the head in the sand' mentality about it. No one is talking about it, and that means something is probably inevitable which shocks all of us. Prepare and fortify your minds.
EndTheResistance 1 month ago
The super power called zzzZZZzzz.....
hehehe, I lol'd
TemujinBC 1 month ago
The Beads!!
You have been a naughty boy. Now go to your room.
utubehayter 1 month ago
Mathematically perfected economy disproves the Austrian theory moreover its what happens before the issuance of any representation namely INTEREST imposed that TERMINALLY depletes any monetary circulation that only ever consists of SOME principal at most. NO NO interest is not found under the couch STEF? keep spreading the LIES of economy you will be remembered for your UNQUALIFIED economic doctrine that would fail in any second grade math exam & heres YOU talking about education? Right ON mate
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 this guy still believes in the labor theory of value, move along folks nothing to see here.
siftyfour 1 month ago
@siftyfour LMAO Believing is one thing BUT knowing is another so ones labor & production to another is worth nothing of value ? No theory quite the contrary its provable just using mere logic.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 There is no such thing as the value of a thing. Things are only "valued" by individuals. It differs not only person to person but each person's valuation of a given thing is also in constant flux. Thus valuation is subjective. These differing valuations among people allow for exchange in a free market.
Interest is the premium charged by the owner of the principle for foregoing his right to use his money for the time it is loaned. Would you forbid such agreements?
Mosier2 1 month ago
@Mosier2 I think you better look up what CONSIDERATION means & the essentials of contract law before you make any more preposterous claims? If banks gives up NO CONSIDERATION there is no loan & we are the creators of principal (not principle) by issuing our very own " PROMISSORY OBLIGATION " that has the only lawful CONSIDERATION in any ALLEGED loan from a bank.I certainly would forbid interest simply because it TERMINALLY depletes circulation that only ever consists of some principal at most.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 So you'd forbid it on the basis of a make believe problem.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth If you can logically demonstrate ,qualify & prove what consideration of value a bank gives up of its own in any purported loan to one of us & logically demonstrate ,qualify & prove how interest is created & issued into circulation in the first place I will concede its a make believe problem but of course if you cant you have to concede these issues are a very real that seriously needs addressing rather than just evasion , ignorance & unqualified dismissal of provable facts.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 Value is subjective, so I don't need to "prove" it, anymore than I need to "prove" the value of soda pop to its buyer. Interest is a time-bound phenomenon, arising from the fact that money now is more valuable than money in the future as it can be used to service more immediate wants, all else being equal. Hence pure interest is the price for the lender being deprived of money now. It can be repaid by increasing productivity. I fail to see what the issue is with its -
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth - "circulation". I need concede nothing. The ignorance is all yours.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth How can paid interest be an equal representation if you cant even demonstrate logically how its even created & issued into circulation when the PRINCIPAL ONLY is ever issued into circulation in any purported loan from a bank ? Moreover nor can you logically demonstrate what a bank gives up or risk of its own " CONSIDERATION OF VALUE " in any purported loan to one of us to even justify interest let alone a debt owed to a bank? Epic failure its not rocket science really..
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 Equal representation of what? I have no idea what you mean by the principal only being issued into circulation or how this connects to interest being a charge on resources lent out now for future repayment. I have demonstrated what a bank gives up. Usage of its money now for the satisfaction of more urgent wants. You may not like it. I don't give a fuck. The failure is all yours, and even though it's not rocket science, you seem to do poorly at it.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth When one buys a house from the outset of a loan one is only borrowing principal to pay for that house,what one pays back to a bank is really 2X , 3X the principal in interest SO what one pays back to the bank allows a bank to steal more out of circulation than what was issued into circulation upon that sale & you haven't demonstrated what consideration a bank gives up in phony loan contract nor can the bank of england for your information in our freedom of information requests.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 You're regurgitating the same nonsense now. 2x, 3x what? Interest is a premium paid for being able to use money now that the lender cannot until it is repaid. It is worth more to them now than in the future, hence they demand this premium. I've demonstrated what "consideration" a bank gives up. You are constantly confusing the current system with what interest is in the abstract. It's getting embarrassing.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth You're regurgitating the same nonsense now. 2x, 3x what?
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THE PRINCIPAL?? KNOCK KNOCK cant you read?
Compound interest owed or charged on a phony loan over the years is often TWO TIMES or THREE TIMES the PRINCIPAL. Principal thats only ever issued or paid into circulation upon a sale from the outset of the bullshit loan from a bank . If you don't get it well what can I say I'm attempting to communicate with the intellectually disabled that cant think logically for themselves.
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 I can read. I think you're making up numbers. Not that it matters. If the debtor freely agrees to incur the debt there is no issue with it, whether it's 0.2x or 200x the value of the "principal".
"If you don't get it well what can I say I'm attempting to communicate with the intellectually disabled that cant think logically for themselves."
Maybe you're just a shit communicator.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 "How can paid interest .... when the PRINCIPAL ONLY is ever issued into circulation"
This is easy. I lend you $10 for 1 yr @ 10%. During the year you make a widget. I buy the widget for $1. The money now exists in your hands to pay back the loan with interest.
It matters not if I have given you a real $10 or simply printed it. If it is printed ( as in the current system ) then I have not provided any "consideration of value". Regardless, the math works.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@jeffiek Shit heres another why even bother with your interest if you pay it to me & i pay it back & It dose matter if you havent given me something of EQUAL value,today they print a secondary issuance of one of our promissory obligations only our promissory obligations has consideration backed by our labor & production & the liquidity value of the property in question & the secondary issuance has no consideration given up by the bank & it doesn't EQUAL our former issuance because of interest
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66
You: "It dose matter if you havent given me something of EQUAL "
Me: "If it is printed ( as in the current system ) then I have not provided any "consideration of value". "
How many times do I have to repeat myself?
jeffiek 1 month ago
@jeffiek This is were your WRONG because WE give up the ONLY consideration in the CURRENT SYSTEM & WE create the money on conception which is CURRENT SYSTEM.
So it dose bloody matter if one has not given up something of equal value BECAUSE thats the banks intervention printing an UN EQUAL misrepresentation of our promissory obligations we have to each other allowing them to steal principal & charge us interest that terminally depletes circulation that consists of some principal at most .
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 ""How can paid interest .... when the PRINCIPAL ONLY is ever issued into circulation""
I replied to your original comment. I posted proof that it's mathematically possible, independent of system.
NOWHERE have I made any comment whatsoever about the consequences of a system that does not provide equal consideration
NOWHERE have I made any comment supporting the current system.
Now prove my math wrong or admit it is valid. THEN we'll deal with the type of system.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@jeffiek How did you answer that? You just implied that theres extra monies in circulation that next year that the guy could earn, meanwhile overlooking all the other people existing are fighting for those same dollars floating around circulation, which still consists of only principal(no interest) yet they too must pay back this interest on whatever theyve financed
The whole systems still saturated in terminal(artificial) indebtedness that can only multiply over long enough period of time
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam If individuals put themselves in debt when they foolishly assume their productivity will go up far more than will suffice to repay it, whom do they have to blame but themselves? The monetary unit is not at issue. Any quantity will suffice.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth There should be no artificial debts
A creditor(gives up property) would be paid in full, & there should be an obligation for the obligor to pay the principal out of circulation over time. A promissory obligation represents a thing of value, so retire that principal(that represented value) over time as the property depreciates/is consumed... To make good on an obligation(debt) retire the principal, at the rate of consumption over a determined time.
No debt, just obligations
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam Paid in full, which will include interest, the premoum of time.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth Lol why include interest? For what reason? Just coz the banks do, doesnt mean we should
If you purchase a 100,000 dollar home, it costs banks a few pennies to pay the true creditor and issue 100,000 for that house, and then deny him interest...
While you, using your own labor & production, owe the bank the 100,000 (that cost them 10 fuckin cents to steal from you lol), plus interest...
That is not very economical, a child should see this from reading those few sentences above
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@ott0Kitam Why give up usage of resources available for the satiation of immediate wants, losing access to them whilst they are lent out, for the identical amount in the future?
The fact that you feel the need to interject "lol" into your sentences all the time doesn't undo the fact that the same resources now are worth more than resources in the future. You can call it "theft" all you like but so long as no one, in a pure market order, is forced to incur it, it is not theft.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth And just what resources is any banks give up in any purported loan? Really? What property or thing of value is at risk for a bank? None??? So why pay them to steal from us?
Im laughing, coz its retarded to impose such artificial debts on ourselves :)
ott0Kitam 1 month ago
@jeffiek I posted proof that it's mathematically possible, independent of system..
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All you did was demonstrate that you pay me an equal amount of interest so I can pay that back to you hardly a solution , why even bloody charge interest in the beginning if thats the case, your math is a pointless exercise going around in circles that only demonstrates the solution is not to charge any Interest thats all .
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 It matters not what the creditors do with the interest. It's their problem. It dissolves the notion that the money does not exist in the system, however, along with the notion that productivity increases (i.e. producing more goods, by definition demanded by others) can be used to pay back the interest. Your mathematical "problem" exists in your head alone.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth The true creditor is the one who gives up property in any phony loan from & they are denied the INTEREST ? So it dose matter what they do with the interest because they are denied the bloody interest & thus its not spent into circulation rather its stolen laundered out of circulation by the banks, to re inflate circulation a government borrows that back as national debt? The problem is the BANK stealing circulation ,its not that hard they're thieves & it all starts on the ground floor
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 Yes, that is the problem. What has this got to do with the concept of interest in the abstract? I am still awaiting to hear what the mathematically perfected "solution" to the economy is.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 "your math is a pointless exercise"
My math is a repudiation of your drivel. If mine is true, YOURS is false. That is far from pointless. How do you expect to understand economics when you can't do the equivalent of 2+2?
You build a "theory", and teach it no less, on balderdash.
You don't think, you feel. Then you mistake those feelings for thought.
Have a nice life.
jeffiek 1 month ago
@Moragauth Over a life time of a purported loan pending on the rates of interest charged whats paid to a bank out of circulation is often 2X,3X the initial principal that was only ever issued into circulation in the first place?.Interest WE PAY at any rate depletes a monumental amount out of circulation where banks steal & launder this money only to loan it back as national debt to re inflate circulation making it mathematically impossible for any government to pay down any sum of national debt
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 So you're referring to a problem that solely conctional reserve banking under a fiat currency with legal tender status as a problem with interest under full reserve banking with freely competing currencies? Governments encourage and foster this system so I've no sympathy for them. In principle, the debt is repayable, but since governments incur it without consulting their populace, it is junk debt. Non existent.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth solely concerns fractional*
And I'm not even saying the whole "mathematical" thing is right. Technically speaking that debt can be repaid by increasing productivity sufficiently.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 Back when I went to law school consideration was a bargained for exchange whereby each party does something (or forebears doing) something they otherwise were not obligated to do. I suspect your objection (as is mine) is to fiat money and factional reserve banking. Forget banks for a moment. Two people contract for a loan. One gives up his right to use his loaned funds for a time. The other agrees to pay interest on the principle for its use. There is consideration.
Mosier2 1 month ago
@Mosier2 I'm sorry there are certain contract essentials that have to be present in a contract.You haven't a clue you write forget banks then you contradict your own words writing two people contract for a loan talking in circles, what I'm referring to is the only thing that has value in any purported loan which is the first issuance of the obligors promissory obligation or note that only has one signature & its not the banks .Consideration means GIVING UP SOMETHING OF VALUE banks give up SQUAT
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 I used an example of a loan agreement entered by two people to demonstrate such agreements have consideration on both sides. I specifically excluded banks from the example as fractional reserve banking allows for the creation of fiat money out of thin air, thus to that extent they are not giving up something of theirs. To the extent reserve requirements apply the bank is not able to use those funds backing the loan for its duration so even there is some consideration.
Mosier2 1 month ago
@Mosier2 You forget the essentials of contract law also has to have genuine consent or free consent where any contract is void if its a misrepresentation, misleading representation . Thats what todays BANK money is which a misrepresentation of the former issuance of one of our very own promissory obligations . Todays money is really the EVIDENCE of our promissory obligations that DOESN'T EQUAL our promissory obligations because the principal is stolen on conception & the interest thats terminal
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 In caps so you can understand: NO ONE IS TRYING tO JUSTIFY THE CURRENT SYSTEM
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth If anyone is advocating banking or interest they are trying to justify the current system which is a theft of our labor & production we have to each other not to any thieving bank who GIVES UP JACK & steals it mate. Banks are our enemy No1 . I will caps this so you understand NO EXCEPTIONS & I MEAN ALL BANKS PUBLIC OR PRIVATE BIG OR SMALL .
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 Repeating the same drivel ad nauseam doesn't make it true, as an FYI.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth All you have to do is click my name hey I have like 600 hundred videos on MPE & teach it ,, I rest my case intellectually disabled people who cant think logically for themselves here on klinks channel there always is .I have proven you wrong on all counts & you came back with this drivel garbage because your ego cant justify you words MATE , You sincerely deserve whats coming & Its people like you who are your own worst enemy not the banks hey .FU & good bye
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@chotaboy66 If you cannot articulate you probably don't understand it. You've done nothing so far to prove me wrong but continuously describe how banks work now as an indictment of interest. You can't handle that your opponents do not hold to the strawman you ascribed to them and now throw a hissy fit. Well tough.
Moragauth 1 month ago
@Moragauth Like 100s of videos on my channel articulating what I'm writing & you wont go THERE not to mention the 20 odd narrated by myself & you dismiss my articulation without even looking at them FIRST? .
Would care to debate me over skype so I can upload it on you tube , you have something to study if you think you can win debate now theres an advantage FOR YOU TOUGH HEY?
chotaboy66 1 month ago
@Moragauth So will you debate me on skype or not ? or am I wasting my time with you evader ?
chotaboy66 1 month ago
Those who aren't already awake have little interest in waking up. As the state pushes fear levels to new heights this year (their only option now) with another false flag/ pandemic, more police state control etc, the masses will become even more child-like and embrace mass media and the state 'protection' like a teddy bear.
For them it's too late for the 'stick of reason'. Only a carrot even bigger than the state's carrot will work now!
Luckily that carrot exists.
(DFET)
watch?v=ZWjktDuIhR8
project3ss 1 month ago 2
continued..
The proven existence of DFET (no matter who's hands it's currently in) completely changes the paradigm and makes today's fears re the economy and banking system almost irrelevant. Plus it inevitably calls into question the role of (or even the need for) governments as we know them today.
B4 you dismiss the subject, know that two of NIST's contractors for 9/11 report (ARA & SAIC) are involved in DET. Also ARA are co founders of 'Directed Energy Professionals Society'.
Come on ppl!
project3ss 1 month ago
"Its something akin to a pterodactyl being fed ass backwards into a blender with a cat in its mouth"-Stefan Molyneux
dannyv233 1 month ago
@DarthGalt...How do you know that the Mic wasn't donated?
pfcwar5150 1 month ago
BREATH STEF!
MrFreeCookie 1 month ago
"They cast that sleep spell and everybody failed their saving throws."
YES. Thanks for the D&D reference Stef. That made my day.
dyne313 1 month ago 2
LOL
"...constant pilfering of pockets, past present and future..."
Nice
philosophicaljock 1 month ago
Steve, do you like mushrooms?
jupiterdrive 1 month ago 24
@jupiterdrive
Who is steve?
splendidtrouser 1 month ago
God, I needed this. My niece, who is 15, called me 'fucked up in the head' because I express views similar to yours. It was hurtful at first, but then I remembered your video about mental illness and the madness of the world and I felt better. Thank you so much for these brilliant talks, they have helped me so much.
anafael1 1 month ago 2
@anafael1 What views where you sharing with her?
TheStrangerInTheRye 1 month ago
read up on 3 point lighting technique Stefan ...
g1981c 1 month ago 2
It is always easy to talk from the side line Stefbot. Humbleness is something alien to you. It is really funny when you think about what your ultimate goal is. The whole world tuning into freedomainrdio how to save the world. Luckily that is never going to happen.
erdal0 1 month ago
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erdal0 1 month ago
Now we're back on track!!!!!!!!! Yippie!!!!
uncomntut 1 month ago
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erdal0 1 month ago
fukushima...not fukayama. ;-)
john25rs2001 1 month ago
Stefan, you think you could do a video on public sector union alternatives? I agree on your views on public sector unions but what could be done to replace them. We still need teachers, cops, and firefighters.
1977Melville 1 month ago
@1977Melville Not have a public sector paid by looting citizens. Let the private sector figure out the best solution.
NIK4EVA 1 month ago
@1977Melville Who protects your car from damage? Well you get insurance right? Who protects you from having a breakdown in your car? Breakdown cover (insurance) right?
If the government is so good at providing teachers/cops/fire fighters why not let them take care of your car insurance too?
We do not need "teachers" what we need is LEARNERS! People that actually want to learn! You can find out anything, if you want to! With the internet all the information you could ever need is there!
snaz27 1 month ago
@1977Melville Cops and firefighters and be dealt with in the same way as your car insurance!
I've argued from both sides and I think that the only possible fair way of doing things is on a voluntary basis!
snaz27 1 month ago
2011 = worst year of my life. Good riddance. Only positive is that is was so globally bad it woke people up big time.
queenbeenightly 1 month ago
shit... I need to do something this year...
lolofdoom 1 month ago
great rant,