The countdown has begun! My first book should be available for download from Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble within the month! You can read it on your iphone, droid, kindle, or nook, and even on your PC if you download the right app from their sites.
The countdown has begun! My first book should be available for download from Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble within the month! You can read it on your iphone, droid, kindle, or nook, and even on your PC if you download the right app from their sites.
@opiumhorse I have seen lots of training methods I disagree with... And many of which (it still blows my mind) the horse will protect, and respect the trainer or rider. So without an idea of the method your actually using how can anyone buy into it? Visit horse.com for free horse training videos. So you get an idea of how the trainer works with a horse and gains their respect.
@snowboarderkyra The angle we started with is to use curiosity, and we have generated a lot of that. It is interesting that there are many ways to do just about anything with a horse, some of which I don't agree with. I once saw a guy who had trained his horses to sit on his lap when they were newborns. I just wonder how wise that is for later in life, when they weigh 1,000+ pounds...
@opiumhorse I noticed there is no video showing how you get from A to B. Could you post a video that? As unfortunately or fortunately horses are amazing animals that do reach their highest potential under a trusting partnership... But they are also able to show things like in you video and amazing things under the wrong handling.
@snowboarderkyra The goal is a video that is for sale, with some detailed teasers. The videos you see are part of a large amount of unedited material we have. Once I have everything edited, I plan to show some before and after, and link to the video itself for sale. The goal is to teach, but profit as well.
@opiumhorse But again the horse is ignoring you... It seems his eye is on the prop and not you? Also with his body which is more important than the eye he's showing more tolerance than respect.
I also noticed your restraining the horse when you demo his fear of the umbrella. And later he 'accepts' but clearly tosses his tail in discomfort. Which an 'alpha' wouldn't confine a herd mate and force discomfort upon them.
Thank you for responding to my question. Sorry for being a skeptic but I no
@snowboarderkyra Watch horses in a herd. The horse can keep one eye on you, and another on something entirely different, the ears are the same. A horse doesn't have to constantly watch me for me to feel respected. Actually, if the horse does what I ask, when i ask, but looks around, that doesn't offend me in the least. A horse that tiptoes around me, fears me, a horse that has to watch me all the time distrusts me. Sometimes we confuse fear with respect.
@snowboarderkyra To answer your question about restraining the horse, notice me allow the lead rope to slip. The young horse had never before seen the umbrella, or what it did next, in its life. The reaction was real, and not staged or forced. I let the horse react, which was flight, and then (cut out, and part of the video for sale) I introduce him to the umbrella. Once he understand it won't hurt him, he returns his attention to the most important item on his agenda: eating.
@snowboarderkyra Another thought: I have never seen a horse fully ignore an item they have never seen before, so if the horse has its eye on the prop, and is trying to understand it, then so much the better. A horse that is taking the time to think and not simply react is a good thing.
@snowboarderkyra I have another youtube account, opmhorse, which has stories I have recorded about different things I have had happen while I am out riding, you might enjoy those as well.
@snowboarderkyra I mention in a previous post that a horses number one priority is eating, which is true if they feel safe. A horse has to feel safe, then they can eat. If they feel safe enough to rest standing, they will. If they feel safe enough to lie down camel style, they will. A truly relaxed, completely comfortable horse will lie all the way down. Most peoples horses feel so unsafe around their owners that they will hardly eat, much less do anything else. There is a reason horses
@snowboarderkyra need to eat so much: A, they were designed to eat large amounts of fairly poorly nutritious food. Another way of putting it is they were designed to graze. Grazing allows them to chew a lot, and the chewing action produces the horse equivalent of serotonin, which, like in humans, produces a calming effect. Ever see a horse that only gets grain once a day? They get jittery, and nervous, and tend to crib on everything. The reason: They need to chew to feel calm. When I
@snowboarderkyra realized that, it was life changing for me. I went out and sat for hours watching my horses, reading horse books by talented people like Mark Rashid, Jesse Berry, John Rarey and a host of others. I learned the way horses interact, and much about what they think.
Also, you mention that an alpha will not control another horses movements. I couldn't disagree more. Have you ever watched an older, alpha horse gain dominance over a younger, upstart horse? They control access to
@snowboarderkyra water, food, and the herd, which all three spell safety, comfort, and life to the younger horse. The younger horse is forced, quite literally, to accept the dominance of the older, wiser horse. The older horse may barely have to move to get his point across, and may never bite, or do more than pin his ears back, but the message comes through. I take my colts and teach them the same way, minus the attitude, that I am the alpha. The colt responds instinctively, and desires to
@snowboarderkyra be led according to their instincts. It is the same with dogs, or cats, they can only truly ever interact with us according to their intelligence, & much of that is dominated by their instincts. I love using that to help the horse, and it helps me. I have gotten hung up in underbrush while riding on more than one occasion & my horse, who considers me his alpha won't leave me, & in more than one case, has stood perfectly still while I have had to extricate us both. Take care.
The horse isn't bothered by the different things you bring in... But he also isn't responding, acknowledging or showing respect to you. Which leads to the question why is that?
@snowboarderkyra That actually isn't true. First off, the camera is far enough back that you can't see the horses eyes, of which they only need one to watch you. Secondly, the fact that the horse(s) are eating so happily is because they have accepted me as part of their herd, an alpha in that herd, but part of it nonetheless. A horse that is willing to eat contentedly while you demonstrate something is one that isn't bothered by it in the least. I recently tied my horses off to help a
@snowboarderkyra neighbor put out a brush fire someone had carelessly started. My horses stood contentedly while firetruck after firetruck rolled past, followed by police and ambulances. When it was all said and done, they weren't afraid of the smoke or the vehicles. When I walked down from helping, they looked up and nickered at me happily. The video shows their comfort, not their fear of me, which is my goal. They respect me, but also welcome me. That is what I work so hard for.
@snowboarderkyra Off topic, but I am going to upload a video about one of my favorite tests of trust from my horses. When a horse will lie down, it is fairly certain it is safe. If something approaches the horse that it does not trust, it will get up, and if bothered by it, move away. I love to go out and sit down next to one of my horses that has decided to rest by lying down. If the horse is lying all the way down, on its side, and lets me approach and touch it, we have a very, very close
@snowboarderkyra bond indeed. Some of them will sit up, and my favorite two will let me let me rub on them while they remain lying on their side. A horse lying on its side is in its most vulnerable position, and thus will not let even other horses that it is less friendly with approach it. Now, while I do not suggest approaching a horse you do not know, or know how it will respond, it is indeed a strong litmus test. I also have a young horse that will stand over me when I am mending fence,
@snowboarderkyra which is a sign of protection. I taught him that I am a part of his herd, and when I bend down, or sit down, he comes and stands over me the way he will other horses in the herd that are resting. Indians and Arabs both used their horses as guards while they slept, since the horse would warn them of someone/somethings approach. That is one of my favorite parts of horsemanship. Thanks for posting.
Its all about putting yourself behind the eyes of the horse and getting into their head...understanding that they are sentient beings, that they are prey animals, that they utilize hierarchy....oh, I also forgot, carrots, lots of them, :-).
@ronphlf I just read your post on my other account, you do get around. :-) I really do try to get inside my horses head. I was working with a young trainer who was training an equally young horse, and when teaching the horse to rein, he didn't want to turn to the right. They both became frustrated, and I watched his body language change to that of pain, not because she was beating him, but the pain was real enough. When I reined him, there was no pain. Same bit, everything. I took my time
@ronphlf working around his mouth and found a cut in his lip that was being tugged when she plow reined (due to his early stage of training) him. Once I medicated the lip, he responded by nuzzling me and we called it a day. The next training session went much better, and we all three learned something, the two humans to listen more, and the horse that we would try to understand. Thanks for checking out our videos!
It says no HUMANS have been harmed in the making of this video but it doesent say no animals have so have animals been harmed in the making of he video? (i hope not)
@cassiemyclyde The very concept of gentling a horse means being gentle. The statement that no humans were injured is a joke, but one with a point, that working with horses can be dangerous and that our goal is to protect you from injury. Even a nursing colt can seriously injure a human if we don't understand their body language and know how to lovingly become their alpha (leader).
Thank you. One thing that surprises me is how much my horses want me to teach them about what they are afraid of or don't understand. They have learned to trust me, and as that last colt in the video shows, once he has accepted that scary shape shifting umbrella, he could really care less, it was all about eating that delectable grass.
The countdown has begun! My first book should be available for download from Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble within the month! You can read it on your iphone, droid, kindle, or nook, and even on your PC if you download the right app from their sites.
opiumhorse 11 months ago
The countdown has begun! My first book should be available for download from Amazon.com and Barnes and Noble within the month! You can read it on your iphone, droid, kindle, or nook, and even on your PC if you download the right app from their sites.
opiumhorse 11 months ago
@opiumhorse I have seen lots of training methods I disagree with... And many of which (it still blows my mind) the horse will protect, and respect the trainer or rider. So without an idea of the method your actually using how can anyone buy into it? Visit horse.com for free horse training videos. So you get an idea of how the trainer works with a horse and gains their respect.
snowboarderkyra 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra The angle we started with is to use curiosity, and we have generated a lot of that. It is interesting that there are many ways to do just about anything with a horse, some of which I don't agree with. I once saw a guy who had trained his horses to sit on his lap when they were newborns. I just wonder how wise that is for later in life, when they weigh 1,000+ pounds...
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@opiumhorse I noticed there is no video showing how you get from A to B. Could you post a video that? As unfortunately or fortunately horses are amazing animals that do reach their highest potential under a trusting partnership... But they are also able to show things like in you video and amazing things under the wrong handling.
snowboarderkyra 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra The goal is a video that is for sale, with some detailed teasers. The videos you see are part of a large amount of unedited material we have. Once I have everything edited, I plan to show some before and after, and link to the video itself for sale. The goal is to teach, but profit as well.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@opiumhorse But again the horse is ignoring you... It seems his eye is on the prop and not you? Also with his body which is more important than the eye he's showing more tolerance than respect.
I also noticed your restraining the horse when you demo his fear of the umbrella. And later he 'accepts' but clearly tosses his tail in discomfort. Which an 'alpha' wouldn't confine a herd mate and force discomfort upon them.
Thank you for responding to my question. Sorry for being a skeptic but I no
snowboarderkyra 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra Watch horses in a herd. The horse can keep one eye on you, and another on something entirely different, the ears are the same. A horse doesn't have to constantly watch me for me to feel respected. Actually, if the horse does what I ask, when i ask, but looks around, that doesn't offend me in the least. A horse that tiptoes around me, fears me, a horse that has to watch me all the time distrusts me. Sometimes we confuse fear with respect.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra To answer your question about restraining the horse, notice me allow the lead rope to slip. The young horse had never before seen the umbrella, or what it did next, in its life. The reaction was real, and not staged or forced. I let the horse react, which was flight, and then (cut out, and part of the video for sale) I introduce him to the umbrella. Once he understand it won't hurt him, he returns his attention to the most important item on his agenda: eating.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra Another thought: I have never seen a horse fully ignore an item they have never seen before, so if the horse has its eye on the prop, and is trying to understand it, then so much the better. A horse that is taking the time to think and not simply react is a good thing.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra I have another youtube account, opmhorse, which has stories I have recorded about different things I have had happen while I am out riding, you might enjoy those as well.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra I mention in a previous post that a horses number one priority is eating, which is true if they feel safe. A horse has to feel safe, then they can eat. If they feel safe enough to rest standing, they will. If they feel safe enough to lie down camel style, they will. A truly relaxed, completely comfortable horse will lie all the way down. Most peoples horses feel so unsafe around their owners that they will hardly eat, much less do anything else. There is a reason horses
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra need to eat so much: A, they were designed to eat large amounts of fairly poorly nutritious food. Another way of putting it is they were designed to graze. Grazing allows them to chew a lot, and the chewing action produces the horse equivalent of serotonin, which, like in humans, produces a calming effect. Ever see a horse that only gets grain once a day? They get jittery, and nervous, and tend to crib on everything. The reason: They need to chew to feel calm. When I
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra realized that, it was life changing for me. I went out and sat for hours watching my horses, reading horse books by talented people like Mark Rashid, Jesse Berry, John Rarey and a host of others. I learned the way horses interact, and much about what they think.
Also, you mention that an alpha will not control another horses movements. I couldn't disagree more. Have you ever watched an older, alpha horse gain dominance over a younger, upstart horse? They control access to
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra water, food, and the herd, which all three spell safety, comfort, and life to the younger horse. The younger horse is forced, quite literally, to accept the dominance of the older, wiser horse. The older horse may barely have to move to get his point across, and may never bite, or do more than pin his ears back, but the message comes through. I take my colts and teach them the same way, minus the attitude, that I am the alpha. The colt responds instinctively, and desires to
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra be led according to their instincts. It is the same with dogs, or cats, they can only truly ever interact with us according to their intelligence, & much of that is dominated by their instincts. I love using that to help the horse, and it helps me. I have gotten hung up in underbrush while riding on more than one occasion & my horse, who considers me his alpha won't leave me, & in more than one case, has stood perfectly still while I have had to extricate us both. Take care.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
The horse isn't bothered by the different things you bring in... But he also isn't responding, acknowledging or showing respect to you. Which leads to the question why is that?
snowboarderkyra 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra That actually isn't true. First off, the camera is far enough back that you can't see the horses eyes, of which they only need one to watch you. Secondly, the fact that the horse(s) are eating so happily is because they have accepted me as part of their herd, an alpha in that herd, but part of it nonetheless. A horse that is willing to eat contentedly while you demonstrate something is one that isn't bothered by it in the least. I recently tied my horses off to help a
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra neighbor put out a brush fire someone had carelessly started. My horses stood contentedly while firetruck after firetruck rolled past, followed by police and ambulances. When it was all said and done, they weren't afraid of the smoke or the vehicles. When I walked down from helping, they looked up and nickered at me happily. The video shows their comfort, not their fear of me, which is my goal. They respect me, but also welcome me. That is what I work so hard for.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra Off topic, but I am going to upload a video about one of my favorite tests of trust from my horses. When a horse will lie down, it is fairly certain it is safe. If something approaches the horse that it does not trust, it will get up, and if bothered by it, move away. I love to go out and sit down next to one of my horses that has decided to rest by lying down. If the horse is lying all the way down, on its side, and lets me approach and touch it, we have a very, very close
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra bond indeed. Some of them will sit up, and my favorite two will let me let me rub on them while they remain lying on their side. A horse lying on its side is in its most vulnerable position, and thus will not let even other horses that it is less friendly with approach it. Now, while I do not suggest approaching a horse you do not know, or know how it will respond, it is indeed a strong litmus test. I also have a young horse that will stand over me when I am mending fence,
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@snowboarderkyra which is a sign of protection. I taught him that I am a part of his herd, and when I bend down, or sit down, he comes and stands over me the way he will other horses in the herd that are resting. Indians and Arabs both used their horses as guards while they slept, since the horse would warn them of someone/somethings approach. That is one of my favorite parts of horsemanship. Thanks for posting.
opiumhorse 1 year ago
Its all about putting yourself behind the eyes of the horse and getting into their head...understanding that they are sentient beings, that they are prey animals, that they utilize hierarchy....oh, I also forgot, carrots, lots of them, :-).
ronphlf 1 year ago
@ronphlf I just read your post on my other account, you do get around. :-) I really do try to get inside my horses head. I was working with a young trainer who was training an equally young horse, and when teaching the horse to rein, he didn't want to turn to the right. They both became frustrated, and I watched his body language change to that of pain, not because she was beating him, but the pain was real enough. When I reined him, there was no pain. Same bit, everything. I took my time
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@ronphlf working around his mouth and found a cut in his lip that was being tugged when she plow reined (due to his early stage of training) him. Once I medicated the lip, he responded by nuzzling me and we called it a day. The next training session went much better, and we all three learned something, the two humans to listen more, and the horse that we would try to understand. Thanks for checking out our videos!
opiumhorse 1 year ago
@opiumhorse Great videos, BTW. Keep up the good work.
ronphlf 1 year ago
It says no HUMANS have been harmed in the making of this video but it doesent say no animals have so have animals been harmed in the making of he video? (i hope not)
cassiemyclyde 1 year ago
@cassiemyclyde The very concept of gentling a horse means being gentle. The statement that no humans were injured is a joke, but one with a point, that working with horses can be dangerous and that our goal is to protect you from injury. Even a nursing colt can seriously injure a human if we don't understand their body language and know how to lovingly become their alpha (leader).
opiumhorse 1 year ago
this just awesome OH! I bow to your horsesense!
possum2u 2 years ago
Thank you. One thing that surprises me is how much my horses want me to teach them about what they are afraid of or don't understand. They have learned to trust me, and as that last colt in the video shows, once he has accepted that scary shape shifting umbrella, he could really care less, it was all about eating that delectable grass.
opiumhorse 2 years ago