i'm all for getting women out of poverty and also all the other causes of oppression - domestic abuse, etc. but i would like to see it done in ways that don't emulate western values and western feminism. we need to find a way of getting the country out of the mire of poverty and corruption by finding our own solutions that fit in with our own cultural agendas, not by committing ourselves to a narrow focus on western feminism that may not, in the end, be relevant to bangladesh's people.
There interest is to destroy the fabric of the country, these are a bunch of san-fransico far-left liberal lunatic people who wants the world they say is right!
If they really wanted to help the developing countries there are 1000 ways of doing it, they don't point out the dictator leaders they have had in the political party, they don't expose corruption, they don't expose extortion, they won't because they don't want to.
i'm interested in the 'women' focus of this project. i don't know much about it, but i think that most of these 'empowering women' projects are tools for putting western feminisms into place. bangladesh is a poor country; there are poor men as well as women.
@fstoney, I agree, both men & women are poor; the majority of the time a woman w/reach back & help her family: husband & children; but in other cultures for a man to do it is rare. And its been proven in 'Western culture' that 'empowering the woman w/o emphazing on the importance of family dynamics, destroys the family; single family in Western culture is now the norm & very acceptable but it isn't right.
@proudfemale You mis-read my statement or mis-understood it; I said "empowering the woman w/o EMPHAZING the IMPORTANCE of family dynamics; destroys family"; I also say that "WOMEN WILL REACH BACK & HELP"; I said nothing about 'degradation/subjugation being moral. I live in the West; I support the rights of ALL women. If it wasn't for my ppl dying, burning & hanging here in the West...we would still be treated like property & this gov still says we (in the west) are only 3/5 of human being.
@LLK7962 WHICH government says you are on 3/5th of human being....and WHO burns/hangs in the west..?
of course islam requires that ADULT woman subjugate to males....having to obey or be punished!
it enforces the degradation of inequality on them....so when you say you support the rights of ALL WOMEN, do you also support their right to equality, to be able to leave islam openly, freely...even to question it publicly, yes or no???
Whach u talking about? why do you package a religion and culture together?
Christans use to burn women believing they are witches in the West, sure they'v become more secular, as a Nation but go to ROME there's no Divorce promitted thats injustice to BOTH MEN and WOMEN,
Not here to Bash any religion, just try to open your Prejudicial eye's.
Here in the West where i live I partake in Islam, where you know what doesn't burn or hang anyone, its a cultural element.
Cultures use Islam/Christianity/Hinduism as a tool to suppress women, The old world countries in particular are still left behind in this IE) Bangladesh, India, China.
Cultures that are inherently Barbaric unfortunately using Islam are Pakistan and Arab's.
Cultures that are more Respectful of Human rights (not just womens) & Muslim Malaysian - Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia.
You can use any religion and use it as a tool for hate mongering or for peace.
@Tetragagaca dont LIE re human rights, can anyone in countries you mentioned 'criticise' islam, can they leave openly, freely, safely without any implications whatsoever
can women in those countries choose to marry a non muslim and WITHOUT MALE consent...do they get full equality with males?
they most definitely dont...and WHY is it pakistan and arab countries are so backwardly barbaric
surely even a backward submissive slaveboy like you would know the common denominator is 'islam'
George Bush, Obama, Tony Blair how many of these Western leaders have sent troops to kill innocent lives in Iraq, To kill an enemy that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda
Women and girls wore raped! -How can you support the gang rape of young women regardless of religion?
@Tetragagaca NEVER do we support rape...so your comment is indeed 'childish'
your prick mohammed was a RAPIST, and rape is rampant in your ummah....mullahs even rip the bottoms of small boys with impunity
so you care about lives in iraq....but not the lives of muslims KILLED by muslims on a daily basis, or the lives of non muslims killed by muslim terrorists
what makes you so IMMMORAL that you only care about muslims killed by soldiers
This so called allegations haven't been proven. As opposed to proven cases of Vatican Priests molesting and raping Native children for decades in North America, not only that even till this day it is happening
@Tetragagaca so you care about men/women in rome, but dont give a shit about 8yo muslim girls married off before they can give INFORMED consent, and then denied divorce...or the fact that muslim women require male CONSENT for divorce, so many cant get divorced
its amusing that a muslim male who supports what islam is,does,causes,...who has no problem re inequality for females/wife beating etc talks about injustices
What are you talking about? did i say i" dont give a shit about 8yo muslim girls married off before they can give INFORMED consent"
- You are Prejudicial by the shear jumping to conclusions. It's because of people like you that there are so much hatred in the world, you assume things and how people think.
If your Muslim u must be a terrorist and beat women. etc etc.
To you surprise and learn fro this!, I do not support anyone being married without there consent and legal age
@proudfemale I will extend my apologies to you for you 'misunderstanding/mis-reading the content of my comment. I realize that living in the Western world (America); we use phrases/statements that can readily be mis-understood & being a female myself; I do consider myself an expert on the subject that affects women in my culture as I am sure, you are an expert on the matters concerning the women of your culture--we are truly allies regarding this matter...be well.
For Bangladesh to succeed, they need a national conscious similar to that of the Chinese where success and victory are everything. TO become the most ruthless in business beating all international competition as well as improving education to create a generation of engineers, scientists etc... to build a strong Bangladesh and eradicating corruption in govt for the betterment of Bangladesh. Everything must be done to make Bangladesh stronger.
Bangladesh isn't china though. And i personally don't think following china's path is good. BD ppl just needs more good role models, because its hope that they're completely lacking. That's why they just turn to pray 5 times a day and bank on getting to heaven at least.
As muslims, first of all, we have to pray to Allah for His mercy upon us and then have to work hard with the believe in heart that Allah will help us to make our lives better. It's not just only praying, and doing nothing and not even the other way around. Both must go in parallel. And only then Allah would make our efforts help us get out of all kinds of difficulties.
Religion (Islam) doesnt tell u to pray only. That tells us to work hard as well. There is a verse in quran "God doesnt help those who doesnt help themselves to get their way out". So, its not true that Bengalis just pray and nothing else. I think we have to work much harder then western ppl just to survive (as there is no unemployment benefit). Only problem is corruption and politicians. Otherwise, BD could be lot better and developed.
Inspiring to learn how Luna envisions the future regardless of her current experience
wickedonlinemedia 1 month ago
bangladesh is our homland
SALIM4434 1 year ago
We like to have equal human rights In Bangladesh!
Thanks...
Orchid Marma
ORCHIDMARMA1 2 years ago
Luna S looks so much like Ariana Huffington !!!
aidiotic 2 years ago
i'm all for getting women out of poverty and also all the other causes of oppression - domestic abuse, etc. but i would like to see it done in ways that don't emulate western values and western feminism. we need to find a way of getting the country out of the mire of poverty and corruption by finding our own solutions that fit in with our own cultural agendas, not by committing ourselves to a narrow focus on western feminism that may not, in the end, be relevant to bangladesh's people.
fstoney 2 years ago
There interest is to destroy the fabric of the country, these are a bunch of san-fransico far-left liberal lunatic people who wants the world they say is right!
If they really wanted to help the developing countries there are 1000 ways of doing it, they don't point out the dictator leaders they have had in the political party, they don't expose corruption, they don't expose extortion, they won't because they don't want to.
mclarenf45 2 years ago
totally agree, one hundred percent right.
fstoney 2 years ago
i'm interested in the 'women' focus of this project. i don't know much about it, but i think that most of these 'empowering women' projects are tools for putting western feminisms into place. bangladesh is a poor country; there are poor men as well as women.
fstoney 2 years ago
@fstoney, I agree, both men & women are poor; the majority of the time a woman w/reach back & help her family: husband & children; but in other cultures for a man to do it is rare. And its been proven in 'Western culture' that 'empowering the woman w/o emphazing on the importance of family dynamics, destroys the family; single family in Western culture is now the norm & very acceptable but it isn't right.
LLK7962 2 years ago
@LLK7962 NONSENSE what a pitiful 'excuse' and dishonest junk with your claim that empowerment of women destroys family
you obviously dont know much about women or the west - so you think 'degradation/subjugation' of females is moral and right do you????
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale You mis-read my statement or mis-understood it; I said "empowering the woman w/o EMPHAZING the IMPORTANCE of family dynamics; destroys family"; I also say that "WOMEN WILL REACH BACK & HELP"; I said nothing about 'degradation/subjugation being moral. I live in the West; I support the rights of ALL women. If it wasn't for my ppl dying, burning & hanging here in the West...we would still be treated like property & this gov still says we (in the west) are only 3/5 of human being.
LLK7962 1 year ago
@LLK7962 WHICH government says you are on 3/5th of human being....and WHO burns/hangs in the west..?
of course islam requires that ADULT woman subjugate to males....having to obey or be punished!
it enforces the degradation of inequality on them....so when you say you support the rights of ALL WOMEN, do you also support their right to equality, to be able to leave islam openly, freely...even to question it publicly, yes or no???
proudfemale 1 year ago
@proudfemale
Whach u talking about? why do you package a religion and culture together?
Christans use to burn women believing they are witches in the West, sure they'v become more secular, as a Nation but go to ROME there's no Divorce promitted thats injustice to BOTH MEN and WOMEN,
Not here to Bash any religion, just try to open your Prejudicial eye's.
Here in the West where i live I partake in Islam, where you know what doesn't burn or hang anyone, its a cultural element.
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca the cultures we see in muslim countries are formed BY islam...its demands/requirements/teachings
dont LIE....there IS divorce in rome
your dirty prick mohammed INSTRUCTED penalty for non belief/leaving is MURDER...and you claim thats cultural, not religious LOL
islam sanctions STONING to death...is that cultural too lol?
proudfemale 7 months ago
@proudfemale
Cultures use Islam/Christianity/Hinduism as a tool to suppress women, The old world countries in particular are still left behind in this IE) Bangladesh, India, China.
Cultures that are inherently Barbaric unfortunately using Islam are Pakistan and Arab's.
Cultures that are more Respectful of Human rights (not just womens) & Muslim Malaysian - Qatar, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Bahrein, Tunisia.
You can use any religion and use it as a tool for hate mongering or for peace.
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca dont LIE re human rights, can anyone in countries you mentioned 'criticise' islam, can they leave openly, freely, safely without any implications whatsoever
can women in those countries choose to marry a non muslim and WITHOUT MALE consent...do they get full equality with males?
they most definitely dont...and WHY is it pakistan and arab countries are so backwardly barbaric
surely even a backward submissive slaveboy like you would know the common denominator is 'islam'
proudfemale 7 months ago
George Bush, Obama, Tony Blair how many of these Western leaders have sent troops to kill innocent lives in Iraq, To kill an enemy that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda
Women and girls wore raped! -How can you support the gang rape of young women regardless of religion?
and call you self a Proud female?
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca NEVER do we support rape...so your comment is indeed 'childish'
your prick mohammed was a RAPIST, and rape is rampant in your ummah....mullahs even rip the bottoms of small boys with impunity
so you care about lives in iraq....but not the lives of muslims KILLED by muslims on a daily basis, or the lives of non muslims killed by muslim terrorists
what makes you so IMMMORAL that you only care about muslims killed by soldiers
proudfemale 7 months ago
This so called allegations haven't been proven. As opposed to proven cases of Vatican Priests molesting and raping Native children for decades in North America, not only that even till this day it is happening
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@proudfemale
Men and women where tortured to death, by Western troops in Iraq.
if this is your so Called superior Christan ways?
Not trying to dis any religion, but you false Mis representation of religion, only make u a fool.
And Culture and Religion is Ultimately separate, even if it has influence.
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca dont LIE ..in muslim countries culture is formed by religion - this is an irrefutable fact
its amusing you think facts,truths,reality re islam are misrepresentation
your dirty prick mohammed LOVED concept of torture/beheading..he himself MURDERED innocents just because they didnt accept what he went to offer them
he instructed penalty for non belief/leaving or criticising islam is MURDER
is murder for apostacy culture too LOL?
proudfemale 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca so you care about men/women in rome, but dont give a shit about 8yo muslim girls married off before they can give INFORMED consent, and then denied divorce...or the fact that muslim women require male CONSENT for divorce, so many cant get divorced
its amusing that a muslim male who supports what islam is,does,causes,...who has no problem re inequality for females/wife beating etc talks about injustices
proudfemale 7 months ago
@proudfemale
What are you talking about? did i say i" dont give a shit about 8yo muslim girls married off before they can give INFORMED consent"
- You are Prejudicial by the shear jumping to conclusions. It's because of people like you that there are so much hatred in the world, you assume things and how people think.
If your Muslim u must be a terrorist and beat women. etc etc.
To you surprise and learn fro this!, I do not support anyone being married without there consent and legal age
Tetragagaca 7 months ago
@Tetragagaca oh really...so youre saying you as a muslim DONT support or agree with what islam sanctions/causes?
so WHERE IS YOUR VOICE for the tens of thousands of young girls who suffer so hideously DUE TO islam...they suffer because mohammed was a pedophile!!!
I didnt say youre a terrorist or beat women...but islam SANCTIONS both
its amusing you want to delude yourself its culture that suppresses/oppresses and not islam
proudfemale 7 months ago
@proudfemale I will extend my apologies to you for you 'misunderstanding/mis-reading the content of my comment. I realize that living in the Western world (America); we use phrases/statements that can readily be mis-understood & being a female myself; I do consider myself an expert on the subject that affects women in my culture as I am sure, you are an expert on the matters concerning the women of your culture--we are truly allies regarding this matter...be well.
LLK7962 1 year ago
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Gora1986 3 years ago
For Bangladesh to succeed, they need a national conscious similar to that of the Chinese where success and victory are everything. TO become the most ruthless in business beating all international competition as well as improving education to create a generation of engineers, scientists etc... to build a strong Bangladesh and eradicating corruption in govt for the betterment of Bangladesh. Everything must be done to make Bangladesh stronger.
PaxBrittanica 3 years ago 2
Bangladesh isn't china though. And i personally don't think following china's path is good. BD ppl just needs more good role models, because its hope that they're completely lacking. That's why they just turn to pray 5 times a day and bank on getting to heaven at least.
Debuggnet 3 years ago
Praying won't take you out of poverty.
PaxBrittanica 3 years ago
i agree %110. So hopefully they'll see there are other solutions than praying.
Debuggnet 3 years ago
As muslims, first of all, we have to pray to Allah for His mercy upon us and then have to work hard with the believe in heart that Allah will help us to make our lives better. It's not just only praying, and doing nothing and not even the other way around. Both must go in parallel. And only then Allah would make our efforts help us get out of all kinds of difficulties.
ashif1 2 years ago
Religion (Islam) doesnt tell u to pray only. That tells us to work hard as well. There is a verse in quran "God doesnt help those who doesnt help themselves to get their way out". So, its not true that Bengalis just pray and nothing else. I think we have to work much harder then western ppl just to survive (as there is no unemployment benefit). Only problem is corruption and politicians. Otherwise, BD could be lot better and developed.
nakib926 2 years ago
totally agree. you hear that bengalis- follow pax's advice.
LotharioCasanova 3 years ago
Very inspiring! I had the pleasure of meeting Luna and she is THE role model for entrepreneurs in developing countries.
mariasipka 3 years ago