Gentlemen, caballeros and the uneducated all the territory that mexico and America were fighting for was the Comancheria (Comanche territory) Comanche fought Spanish Conquistadors, Mexican Conquistadors, Texan Conquistadors, and them the United States General Sherman slaughtered the buffalo and sent the post civil war army to force the comanches agree to a truce
i have read that Mexico opened the Comancheria to all immigration, few Mexicans had the courage to trespass into the Comancheria. then came the sons of Erin from Ireland. The Comanche had met there match. If you should happen to meet a Irish Comanche be courteous, many a man has lay at my feet. ,,,,, One of the Parker boys.
The Monterrey battle took place from September 21 to 23 of 1846 (one of the bloodiest battles in the war) the San patricio artillery unit never was pulled back in the battle, later in the Angostura (buena vista) battle several members from the S. Patricio Battalion were awarded with the Iron Cross from Angostura, for they outstanding bravery in battle.
Whoever says Jews are responsible for U.S. imperialism and aggression has a low intellectual coefficient; Jews in Mexico are respected, and relations are excellent. We don't need anymore problems.
The Mexican-American war was just another war of American aggression. They saw that Mexico was weak and they took advantage, vulture-like they are. Mexico fought bravely for its freedom, and for brave men like Riley, and so many others who shown that Mexico cannot be occupied. Mexico is still not free from US agenda in our patria, but there is yet one more battle waiting for us to fight and we will defeat the American Imperialists once and for all. Viva Mexico. Viva la Virgin de Guadalupe!
@GermanConquistador08 mexico is a corpse waiting to be dissected further. the fact that they cant control their borders or defeat the drug cartels stands as the most glaring example of their weakness and ineptitude.
@agricola "the fact that they cant control their borders or defeat the drug cartels stands as the most glaring example of their weakness and ineptitude." - Here's another historical amnesiac. First up, drug cartels, who are supplied by American-made guns which they buy with American drug money, and the border controls mostly are caused by the horrific US immigration policy and their support of the NAFTA treaty.
@agricola he NAFTA provision is the subsidization of Mexican farms by the US when its not needed, which screws up the price systems and sends the Mexican lower class farmers across the US border in search of a better life ONLY because Americans wrecked it in the first place. So no, the border and drug conflicts ALL stem from US involvment in Mexico. You're making the problem and then blaming us for not handling it? Americans are hypocrites and this is a prime example of it.
@agricola The "drug cartels" only exist because you faithless heretics need chemicals to dream.... And I do not think that there is a need to control the "border" in between free and occupied Mexico....
I am shocked and horrified that 27 people seem to think Jews, and not U.S. imperialism, caused this war. Jews and Irish were oppressed immigrant minorities in the U.S. in the 1800s; neither would have been welcomed by the US military. Don't preach this kind of hate in the name of Catholicism; this is a sacrilege. The San Patricios is a great story of solidarity, of people from different cultures in a common struggle for justice. Solidarity is contrary to ethnic and religious hatred.
Just saying you know that during the 1860s France invaded Mexico.The United States gave arms to the Mexican rebels fighting Emperor Maximilian (Sharpe's Carbine,Colt Navy's and Spencer carbines )and even let Soldiers leaving the union army keep their rifles and uniforms if they volunteered to fight the Imperialist French
@markmason1000 yep, thanks to the U.S. we the Mexican people are not under French control. still the Americans only did it to protect themselves. remember that in those days the French were a war machine.
@j2dge well wasn't completely for protection we had an Army under I think General Phil Sheridan ready to invade Mexico and save the republic if things got really bad for Mexico but luckily the Mexican rebels did their job at overthrowing Maximilian brilliantly.The French were some of the dirtiest player on the political field in the 1860s they invaded Mexico because they thought it was an easy target and could buffer U.S power in the western hemishpere and that gave them an exellent vantage
point to support the confederacy from (which they would have),Hell President Lincoln would have sent more support earlier if things in the eastern theater of the civil war would have worked out better
@markmason1000 actually the british were the ones supporting the confederacy. the french supported the union and maximillian was a hapsburg, not even french. the french were there to take over mexico yes, but i doubt they had any designs on american territory.
@markmason1000 did you know that Maximilian was liberal? He conserved the liberal constitution and improved it, gave more rights to the indians and was beginning to industrialize Mexico. Thats why the conservators that brang him here stopped suporting him, and the rebels won because France got to retire troops from Mexico due to the French-prussian war in Europe. So theres no total evil nor total good, history is full of gray spots
I'm disgusted by the Mexican American war.Its disgusted knowing what sick bastards like Polk did to further our beloved Old Glory.Attacking a fellow Republic that was far smaller and had a far less trained and less equipped army,I would honestly expect something like that from Napoleon Bonapartes France not the Union
@markmason1000 Maybe then you should return those lands. Mexico would be willing to pay what you paid us. Isn't it ironic you and the US only say it was disgusting AFTER you WON the war. What was really disgusting was the fact that many Americans came to Mexico during times of hardship and BETRAYED Mexico like Freemont and Houston. If the Americans didn't like Mexico and its ways, then they should have gotten the fuck out, which is ironically what US nativists tell Mexican immigrants today.
@14LoboHispano88 Well Fremont was in the U.S army how can you be a traitor to a country your not from.So your Damming me for saying im sorry for what my country did?President Polk pretty much tricked congress into going into war if you want a villian look at him not the United States itself.
@14LoboHispano88 I didn't say damn you, but you Americans knew what Polk's agenda was, and you still voted him in (not you personally of course, but the Americans back then). Fremont may have been in the US army but he got permission to come to Mexico thanks to the Mexican government. And he backstabbed them by fomenting rebellion, which showed the traitorous ways of the Americans back then, because they DID follow Fremont's lead. And anyways, that doesn't excuse people like Sam Houston, etc.
@14LoboHispano88 really it depends on where you were from most Northerners were all out against the war in fact one of the anti war protesters was a young lawyer in Illinois can you guess his name? Southerners saw it as a chance to bring new states into the Union to even out anti slavery states. Can you really blame Houston when you look how Santa Anna acted the man was a tyrant.The truth is the Mexican war trained our officers many of whom went on to become generals in the American Civil war
These soldiers will always be honored in my country Mexico for their courage, pride and sense of justice. Our eternal thanks to the Irish, the friendliest and most welcoming people I've ever met.
@duneranger there were MANY other invasions from USA to Mexico you don't know of, just in Sonora (my homestate): Nogales, Caborca (Henry Crabb), Guaymas to name a few and NOT part of this war. Mexicans bravely fought and repelled these invasions from our neighbors who obviously thought they had the right to take whatever they wanted.
Irish fought on both sides of this war, both for Mexico & for USA. Some Irish-Americans thought the war was unjust, which it was. USA attacked Mexico b/c it wanted territory to Pacific Ocean (Manifest Destiny). Some Congressmen wanted to annex all of Mexico, not just land north of Rio Grande. Mexicans fought bravely for their country but lost mostly due to ineptitude of their leaders.
No group of treacherous scum more justly hanged. As deserters from the U.S. Army, most of whose Irish contingents were loyal American Patriots, they received poetic vengeance. My piss cascades down the centuries to stain their disreputable crimes. They are a blot on Irish-American history and a disgrace to the honor of U.S. arms.
@456024545 Yeah and maybe those places would be as fucked up as Mexico is now, You're an idiot. Go try living in Mexico dumb-ass, let me know how you like it!
@456024545 My Aryan tinkle sprinkles off the sarcophagus of your pea brain.
The Irish American Army beat the Mexicans in every battle against overwhelming odds, courage, something you'll never know and gained victory. I can't be bother with your nonsense, no courage, never a soldier, and no character.
@dbstarfish yea irish americans were treated so badd they had courage to do someones work u called that courage mexicans had courage wen they were defending there country and had the guts to hold the lines with the americans so wat i mean is that ur wrong shit leaves a stain on ur forehead
Hi, I'm Venezuelan. Just watch the film now and I was in tears, so moving. I totally admire the spirit of the Irish and in all their nature, I lived in Ireland and I can say that their spirit still the same they are amazing people that will fight in any war or cause for the freedom of any nation, I love Ireland and Irish people, I hope you keep spreading all over the world to and keep giving the best of you to all other cultures. Come to Venezuela please!!! And save us from Chavez!!!!
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swisses who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
@rocados2 Oy Veh Moshi, they've discovered the secret Jewish Plot for world domination! Please, such worn out freemason and antisemitic conspiracy theories, can't you do better than that?
@rocados2 You can't be a Catholic and a Jew hater. This is crystal clear from the pronouncements of the popes of the last half century and from the actions of brave clergy and laypeople who risked themselves to save lives in WWII. Besides, of what ethnic affiliation were the Holy Family? Please, find another religion. You're embarrassing the rest of us.
That's why he spent so much time denouncing the pharisees and everything that Judaism was becoming (ie. Talmudism). He may have been born into a Jewish family, but a Catholic surely believes him as the Son of God. You do realise that Jesus was put to death for "Anti-Semitism". Of course hating peopel simply for being Jews is idiocy. But there is much about Judaism that should be reviled.
@rocados2 Where the hell do you get your history,That point America was pretty much just a white protestant country.The Irish proved themselves loyal Americans even in this film.They fought for what they knew was right.Most of the Irishmen in the U.S army stayed loyal soldiers and damn fine ones at that The government wasn't controlled by Jews or Freemasons.at that point it was controlled by racist southerners.I know both and both are some of my closest and most loyal friends.
@rocados2THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH is your a crazy son of a bitch if you think that the Jews secretly run the government . Theres a word for people that dont trust foreigners or people from different religions,our Irish ancestors in America learned about them the hard way there called Nativitists
@rocados2 WHAT A GREAT POST ! MORE TRUE WORDS WERE NEVER SAID ! ...AND THEY BEAR REPETEING """""""""that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH"""""""""""
@rocados2 LOL I can swear you both a nazi or a Religous Fanatic, you know how History works, so dont say incoherences, Church has been more opresive than nothing else created by the hands of humanity, Free Masons and Jews, for the love of god, they are both individual groups that hardly searches to make open war. they wnat power, yes I agree for hardly by using Belic motives. What are your going to say next? that the holocaust was done in a correct purpouse, christ..........
duneranger.................lo dicho pobre gringo pendejo con cultura de plastico, ademas la verdad, SI, te urge aprender historia....ANIMAL....y ademas puto.....I won't even respond to that... pinhce retardado!
@duneranger...........lo mismo chinga y rechinga tu putisima madre animal, aprende historia y si tanto te molestan mis comentarios deja de chingar y no repondas maricon de cagada, por eso es que no escribire mas en ingles para reponderte, sub-humano de plastico, cultura de mierda, tu ni siquiera puedes hablar mi idioma, pobre guey, muerete!
@rcuetara oh really please name a unit that mexico has had that is of any recognition faggot. pancho villa the coward raider or the kids who jumped off a building...take your pick...poor knowledge of history lmao...I won't even respond to that...
@pollorifa13 While he got the job done, his raids and acquisition of land from peasants was less then diplomatic...My whole response to this video is pointing out that the Irish were the most famous and fiercest in Mexico's military history (or what military history Mexico has), seeing that their participation in all of the worlds major wars was almost null.
VIVA MEXICOOOOO Lastima que a nuestros politicos no les interese realmente exponer la gran historia militar de nuestro pais yo recuerdo en "mi libro de texto gratuito" de la primaria que solo habia un pequeño parrafo de este batallon asi como del Escuadron 201 debemos recordar nuestro pasado y llenarnos de orgullo
por ahi abia leeido sobre el batallon de san patricio; pero asta que investigue, y me tope con el batallon de irlandeses supe lo que fue y la importancia que tubo, pero pues a si es esto; Mucho sobre la independecia, y aparte mal explicado. nada sobre estos acontesimientos transcendentales, aparte poco o nada sobre la revolucion y acontecimientos de levantamiento de armas contra el gobierno.
From General Ulysses S. Grant memoirs about the war against Mexico: "I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day, regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation."
This will alway's will be Mexico as God is my witness i bet those saint batallions were well rewarded by our lord. fuck amerikakakrakers they stoled all our ritches from gold diamonds to oil the Aztecs souls will take there land back one day for it is written"A coward dies a 1000 deaths a soldier dies once"God will work in mysterious ways i promise.
@duneranger u talk alot of bullshit u mexican hater haha get a life it seems u have alot of free time to only critizise mexico no one gives a fuck about ur opinion here go to a mexican hater blog or those things u no life haters do
les recomiendo leer el libro "La regeneracion de un pueblo pestilente: la anexion de México a Estados Unidos 1846-1848" de Raul Bringas Nostti. Es un libro basado en pruebas oficiales donde Polk queria anexar a toda la republica
La historia de los Irlandeses en Mexico es deficil de aprender porque fueron fugitivos, cambiaron sus nombres e indentidades para evitar el ejercito de EEUU
im so' proud! about this history, im mexican, and i love the way irish came to mexicane side, i never knew why i like more irish than US people, but now i know lol, Erin Go Bragh!!! in the mexicans hearts!,
un arbazo enorme, y mis mas sinceros respetos a su valiente y honorable pueblo, lleno de gente no solo poderosa, sino de enorme corazón! @irishbuy
Well said, bro. I've been looking this movie for a long time, because I read the novel in which is based. I finally saw it last weekend; awesome movie, quite accurate with the historical background. I undesrtand this film was banned in many parts of the US.
Thanks for the information. Since you mentioned there was a book, I managed to google my way to Michael Hogan's "The Irish Soldiers of Mexico." Behind every good movie, there's a great book.
I'm not saying you guys are "commies"... Besides, I don't like those guys either. I'm just saying that as the saying goes, "History is written by the winners"... And quite often, edited by them, though "winners" are not always the "good guys", as in this case.
It takes strength of conviction to stand up for what is right, admitting that you are on the wrong side and stepping over to the other side. If only more people had the courage to do the same, tyrants would not be able to wreak as much havoc and spill as much blood as they do.
Fierce fighters are fierce fighters, regardless of what side they fight on. Any army worthy of the name respects even it's enemies when they are fierce fighters.
You do realize that the San Patricio's were some of the fiercest fighters the U.S. met in combat, right? And they were justified in their desertion. The U.S. of today is hardly the same country it was.
I wouldn't say that. The fiercest fighters in that war were six teenagers in the Mexican Military Academy at Chapultepec that held off the Marine advance.
@duneranger existian unidades de guerrilleros mexicanos veteranos de guerras anteriores, y ellos tambien les dieron un dolor de cabeza a los gringos... no eran oficialmente batallones sino cuadrillas de rancheros que iban armados hasta los dientes y atacaban sin previo aviso a los campamentos gringos.
Si Morelos, Villa o Diaz hubieran sido generales en esa epoca (ya que los 3 mostraron grandes aptitudes para el campo de batalla) y no Santa Ana, la historia seria algo diferente
@duneranger ur stupid how can u say they were the fiercest unit if u dont even know mexican history.. i do honor them doe.. and the fiercest unit was the chapultepec batallion..
@pollorifa13 Wow fail, for one the battle was a total rout and the only mentionable names were the cadets who jumped off the academy castle point...I know the history...
At the moment of their hanging in San Angel,whenthe Mexican flag was lowered, they all cried out in unison, "GIVE THEM GUNFIRE" showing btheir allegiance to Mexico at the time of Death. Alvaro Obregon(O'brien) and Vicente Fox are decendants of thse Irish Heroes.
I don't know about Obregon but Vicente Fox could hardly be a descendant of the San Patricios as a) Fox is an English name, not Irish and b) the family had nothing to do with Mexico until his grandfather came to Mexico from Ohio in the 1920's.
we should indeed recognize John Riley and the san patricios as Heroes. Im mexican and its sad that nobody knows about these truly heroes that gave their life for my country and their religion.
Rifleman how can you say u are not a fan of Mexico or their defectors but u sympathize with the Los San Patricios why is that i wonder? they where defectors from the US
The San Patricios were loyal to the true sense of freedom fighting and justice, since they fought side by side with us Mexicans, so they are heroes, real heroes and that is a strange thing, for real heroes like those are not usually recognized.
Did reasearch most things U say r lies 88 percent%lies people look up this history California is california USA never bought california they stole the land just like in texas thats when the over 200 irish men from the oppisite sides of the war joined Mexico led by General John Riley there was alway's war American rebelion started killing Mexican&Indians in mexico&thats how it started if they did buy land it was diffrent but mexico would never sell that much land to the usa its documented
texas rebelled against mexico as did many other regions, texas became indepedent, texas joined the usa, so its not a direct theft as mexico failed to rewconquer texas
The southern part of what is now Texas was part of Matamoros, Mexico. My great, great Mexican grandfather owned land north of the Rio Grande. He was forced to surrender his property and was hanged by American soldiers. Generations later, my father had to work his ass off to legaly enter the U.S (South Texas) and buy back some of the property that was meant for him in the first place.
His father was mestizo but his mother was tamaulipeca. My great, great grandfather had inherited the land from his father, who had acquired it after helping wth the construction of the levees along the Rio Bravo/Rio Grande. What history says about which government owned what, means nothing to the people who actually lived in those areas and were just trying to live their lives. My dad's mother, is a descendent from one of los colorados de san patricio.
Glory to LOS COLORADOS DE SAN PATRICIO. They were the purest heroes of our entire history, because they fought for an ideal and died for it. VIVA IRLANDA, VIVA MEXICO. Batallon de San Patricio, MURIO POR LA PATRIA!!!!
i wish mexica won if i was in the war i would not give up unitl we won that war if i die in that war i will die unitl usa give up VIVA MEXICO !!!!!!!!!!!111111
Viva Mexico!Los soldado's Mexicano's y General Santa Anna y Viva Ireland!Los San Patricio's=puro's soldado's de honor peliando la guerra buena Dios vendito Gracias por la vendision de esto's soldado's de la Igliesa Catholica
Theodore Roosevelt said: "While these countries (Latin America)remain Catholic, we will not be able to dominate them."
Latin America has long ago lost the Faith, without the Faith, they are NOTHING, they have NOTHING. A dirt poor peasant who has the real Faith, is worth more than every millionaire Capitalist.
Wake up Latinos! The Capitalist and the Bolsheviks are on the same side. The ONLY opposition is the true Faith. The war against Mexico was against Catholicism.
Not a religious war, a war against oppression for the Irish - show me an Irishman who respects authority and I'll show you...wait, you show me that and either you're lying or I'm hallucinating. Many white Texans were Catholic.
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Why do the Irish fight each other?-Because they can find no better opponent!
The Irish were the nigs of that time. There wasn't anything lower, what were they going to do? They didn't have anything to lose in stature, so they acted out in this way and others(Molly Maguires, politicals, gangs, etc). Plenty of Irish fighting for the US side too. Same in civil war-Irish against Irish. In Ireland, the English owned 80% of the land and it was English policy to export grain while the Irish starved.
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
I sincerely doubt this was political motion on the part of the Mexicans. Nearly 800 Irishmen left the American invaders to fight against two major things: Opression and tyranny from the U.S. They related very deeply with the Mexican cause and to this day the Mexican flag flies in the home town of Jon Riley in Clifden,County Galway. Mexico and Ireland share a very common bond. Mexico has acknowledged the bravery and loyalty of the San Patricios and many places in Mexico are named in their honor.
Thank you for responses....to ALL! I honestly never knew of San Particios and don't remember any display in the Fifth Avenue Marches of Saint Patricks Day in New York City. Did Mexico recognise the German 'volunteers' also? 'Yorkville' NYC was Irish/German, home of the 'Fighting 69th' at Seventh Regiment Amory.
I am irish and have lived in Mexico for a few years and one place you should all see on St.Patricks day is San Patricio near Barra De Navidad on the Pacific side for the best paddies day parade and party ever
ok ray. There is cheap hotels etc in that area and if none available check out barra de navidad. Thats the town near san patricio. Barra de navidad was split up and land given to the irish as a gift for helping in an evasion on the pacific coast
The motivations were, primarily land and good wages that the Mexicans offer, among the respect of their religion (many Irishmen were not allowed to practice their faith, or were mocked) and perhaps additionally, some sympathised with the Mexicans, seeing parallels between home and there.
Good men that fought for what was right, regardless of motivation.
it's a hard one to do well if you haven't lived with it. irish people are the only ones who'd notice if it was bad or not. i thought de caprios accent was great in blood diamond till i asked an african friend who said it was bad as tom cruise irish accent in far and away. that was worth the laugh though
I am Irish you silly sausage i'm from limerick. Remember the police fella in the old batman? Who was always with commisioner gordon? His accent was so fuckin shite the guy who played the commish complained about him. Also i think you'll agree the Irsh never had a tendancy towards elf hats
ha! i'd forgotten about that guy. he had one of those rainbow leprachaun accents nobody on this island could explain. "a shur bida tooraloora batman!" but have you ever seen the devils own? "i told ya before. it's not an american story, it's an irish story. there are no happy endins." worst accent ever!
but then i though gibson was good in braveheart till i was told otherwise too
Ah man Gibson was shite! Kevin costner in robn hood was something else. He didn't even try! He spoke in his normal accent and pretended he was english. Although Christian Slater at least over pronounced his T's
Hey....I'm Irish/German from Yorkville NYC USA. Only a dummy with a brogue with elfen hat is illegal alien looking for pickup by immigration.....Mexhanos run our streets unscathed pretending to be Puerto Ricans.
Sure you can. Yah just gotta get the lingo right and adjust your accent. How Jewish is Jackie Mason? Previous work had Russian emmigrants brought in as 'discrimated Jews.' I laughed at explanation of Seder and Passover....they were coached in Russia...had no clue. Such a thing. Oi Gevalt!
I thought I was in the 'Cat Birds Seat' with a Southern New Jersey accent from life down there....pegged in Ohio as a 'Neu Yawker.' 'Gimme a bagle with butter, datz my parking space, I live at sixty toid and toid, whaddayah want...a prize...get out of my face, parking meter is broken and you issue a summons....fix da stinkin meter.' When I get mad I switch to GI German...all I got from public school education....Yiddish...'Yo Heime...stumpf yourself.' Smuck. Oi Gevalt!
when i was in college in dublin my housemates told me one of their jewish friends was coming over. i thought cool, i love asking pople about their traditions, history etc.
so she was in the kitchen and in i arrived. after a few drinks i decided i'd ask her about passover or something or the Maccabees.
"eh, i'm presbyterian" was all she could tell me on the subject.
Very funny to me as an Epicopalian...you might have taken offense if she said she was Anglican. Presbyterianism is Scottish! They have no clue.
In the late nineteenth century, being Jewish in NYC was not a problem but finding a good job was. Apart from 'Church of Christ Scientist', many joined something called 'Society of Ethical Culture' which was like 'non denominal non Chistian something.' My posts are not to make offense to anyone.
Gentlemen, caballeros and the uneducated all the territory that mexico and America were fighting for was the Comancheria (Comanche territory) Comanche fought Spanish Conquistadors, Mexican Conquistadors, Texan Conquistadors, and them the United States General Sherman slaughtered the buffalo and sent the post civil war army to force the comanches agree to a truce
jyjim 7 months ago
i have read that Mexico opened the Comancheria to all immigration, few Mexicans had the courage to trespass into the Comancheria. then came the sons of Erin from Ireland. The Comanche had met there match. If you should happen to meet a Irish Comanche be courteous, many a man has lay at my feet. ,,,,, One of the Parker boys.
jyjim 7 months ago
The Monterrey battle took place from September 21 to 23 of 1846 (one of the bloodiest battles in the war) the San patricio artillery unit never was pulled back in the battle, later in the Angostura (buena vista) battle several members from the S. Patricio Battalion were awarded with the Iron Cross from Angostura, for they outstanding bravery in battle.
singerheavy 9 months ago
never will forgive USA the theft of our land so spend 1000 years
Systematic89 9 months ago
Whoever says Jews are responsible for U.S. imperialism and aggression has a low intellectual coefficient; Jews in Mexico are respected, and relations are excellent. We don't need anymore problems.
landovida 11 months ago
The Mexican-American war was just another war of American aggression. They saw that Mexico was weak and they took advantage, vulture-like they are. Mexico fought bravely for its freedom, and for brave men like Riley, and so many others who shown that Mexico cannot be occupied. Mexico is still not free from US agenda in our patria, but there is yet one more battle waiting for us to fight and we will defeat the American Imperialists once and for all. Viva Mexico. Viva la Virgin de Guadalupe!
GermanConquistador08 1 year ago
@GermanConquistador08 mexico is a corpse waiting to be dissected further. the fact that they cant control their borders or defeat the drug cartels stands as the most glaring example of their weakness and ineptitude.
agricola 10 months ago
@agricola "the fact that they cant control their borders or defeat the drug cartels stands as the most glaring example of their weakness and ineptitude." - Here's another historical amnesiac. First up, drug cartels, who are supplied by American-made guns which they buy with American drug money, and the border controls mostly are caused by the horrific US immigration policy and their support of the NAFTA treaty.
GermanConquistador08 10 months ago
@agricola he NAFTA provision is the subsidization of Mexican farms by the US when its not needed, which screws up the price systems and sends the Mexican lower class farmers across the US border in search of a better life ONLY because Americans wrecked it in the first place. So no, the border and drug conflicts ALL stem from US involvment in Mexico. You're making the problem and then blaming us for not handling it? Americans are hypocrites and this is a prime example of it.
GermanConquistador08 10 months ago
@agricola The "drug cartels" only exist because you faithless heretics need chemicals to dream.... And I do not think that there is a need to control the "border" in between free and occupied Mexico....
ziegle9876 9 months ago
I am shocked and horrified that 27 people seem to think Jews, and not U.S. imperialism, caused this war. Jews and Irish were oppressed immigrant minorities in the U.S. in the 1800s; neither would have been welcomed by the US military. Don't preach this kind of hate in the name of Catholicism; this is a sacrilege. The San Patricios is a great story of solidarity, of people from different cultures in a common struggle for justice. Solidarity is contrary to ethnic and religious hatred.
hope157100 1 year ago
Just saying you know that during the 1860s France invaded Mexico.The United States gave arms to the Mexican rebels fighting Emperor Maximilian (Sharpe's Carbine,Colt Navy's and Spencer carbines )and even let Soldiers leaving the union army keep their rifles and uniforms if they volunteered to fight the Imperialist French
markmason1000 1 year ago
@markmason1000 yep, thanks to the U.S. we the Mexican people are not under French control. still the Americans only did it to protect themselves. remember that in those days the French were a war machine.
j2dge 1 year ago
@j2dge well wasn't completely for protection we had an Army under I think General Phil Sheridan ready to invade Mexico and save the republic if things got really bad for Mexico but luckily the Mexican rebels did their job at overthrowing Maximilian brilliantly.The French were some of the dirtiest player on the political field in the 1860s they invaded Mexico because they thought it was an easy target and could buffer U.S power in the western hemishpere and that gave them an exellent vantage
markmason1000 1 year ago
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markmason1000 1 year ago
point to support the confederacy from (which they would have),Hell President Lincoln would have sent more support earlier if things in the eastern theater of the civil war would have worked out better
markmason1000 1 year ago
@markmason1000 actually the british were the ones supporting the confederacy. the french supported the union and maximillian was a hapsburg, not even french. the french were there to take over mexico yes, but i doubt they had any designs on american territory.
agricola 10 months ago
@agricola Im not so sure that the french were friends of the United States at that point
markmason1000 10 months ago
@markmason1000 did you know that Maximilian was liberal? He conserved the liberal constitution and improved it, gave more rights to the indians and was beginning to industrialize Mexico. Thats why the conservators that brang him here stopped suporting him, and the rebels won because France got to retire troops from Mexico due to the French-prussian war in Europe. So theres no total evil nor total good, history is full of gray spots
sebashero1995 4 months ago
@sebashero1995 so was Benito Juarez so you may be right about the gray spots in history
markmason1000 4 months ago
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This is a very cheap movie. Hollywood should turn their attention to this TURNING POINT in American history, dont you think?
After all, the US is the most powerful country thanks to this outrageous conflict that they shamelessly started.
Although, thinking it better, maybe remembering one of the most infamous wars in History wouldnt do any good to the USA's good reputation...
gewerh43 1 year ago
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gewerh43 1 year ago
up the fucking irish!!half mexican myself!half mcguire half torres
MrSeandiego 1 year ago
I'm disgusted by the Mexican American war.Its disgusted knowing what sick bastards like Polk did to further our beloved Old Glory.Attacking a fellow Republic that was far smaller and had a far less trained and less equipped army,I would honestly expect something like that from Napoleon Bonapartes France not the Union
markmason1000 1 year ago
@markmason1000 Maybe then you should return those lands. Mexico would be willing to pay what you paid us. Isn't it ironic you and the US only say it was disgusting AFTER you WON the war. What was really disgusting was the fact that many Americans came to Mexico during times of hardship and BETRAYED Mexico like Freemont and Houston. If the Americans didn't like Mexico and its ways, then they should have gotten the fuck out, which is ironically what US nativists tell Mexican immigrants today.
14LoboHispano88 1 year ago
@14LoboHispano88 Well Fremont was in the U.S army how can you be a traitor to a country your not from.So your Damming me for saying im sorry for what my country did?President Polk pretty much tricked congress into going into war if you want a villian look at him not the United States itself.
markmason1000 1 year ago
@14LoboHispano88 I didn't say damn you, but you Americans knew what Polk's agenda was, and you still voted him in (not you personally of course, but the Americans back then). Fremont may have been in the US army but he got permission to come to Mexico thanks to the Mexican government. And he backstabbed them by fomenting rebellion, which showed the traitorous ways of the Americans back then, because they DID follow Fremont's lead. And anyways, that doesn't excuse people like Sam Houston, etc.
14LoboHispano88 1 year ago
@14LoboHispano88 really it depends on where you were from most Northerners were all out against the war in fact one of the anti war protesters was a young lawyer in Illinois can you guess his name? Southerners saw it as a chance to bring new states into the Union to even out anti slavery states. Can you really blame Houston when you look how Santa Anna acted the man was a tyrant.The truth is the Mexican war trained our officers many of whom went on to become generals in the American Civil war
markmason1000 1 year ago
These soldiers will always be honored in my country Mexico for their courage, pride and sense of justice. Our eternal thanks to the Irish, the friendliest and most welcoming people I've ever met.
phxdivine 1 year ago
1:08 What an irony "we have no royalty" and the actor portraying the Irish soldier is prince Albert of Monaco ;)
phxdivine 1 year ago
@duneranger there were MANY other invasions from USA to Mexico you don't know of, just in Sonora (my homestate): Nogales, Caborca (Henry Crabb), Guaymas to name a few and NOT part of this war. Mexicans bravely fought and repelled these invasions from our neighbors who obviously thought they had the right to take whatever they wanted.
phxdivine 1 year ago
Irish fought on both sides of this war, both for Mexico & for USA. Some Irish-Americans thought the war was unjust, which it was. USA attacked Mexico b/c it wanted territory to Pacific Ocean (Manifest Destiny). Some Congressmen wanted to annex all of Mexico, not just land north of Rio Grande. Mexicans fought bravely for their country but lost mostly due to ineptitude of their leaders.
AlternityGM 1 year ago
I see that no one spotted the secret celebrity hidden in this clip. The character, James Kelley, is played by Prince Albert of Monaco. :-p
Champino101 1 year ago
Mexico and Ireland. Good combo. Down with imperialism. Irish Americans should never have died fighting for Britain in either World War.
klined 1 year ago 2
im a korean american woman...married to irishman in new york city...
and i can tell u all this.
DON'T EVER TALK BAD ABOUT MEXICAN PEOPLE IN FRONT OF AN IRISHMAN.. OR U WILL END UP IN HOSPITAL....SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN A NYC BAR.
GOD BLESS IRELAND
GOD BLESS MEXICO
yeonnie2go 1 year ago
No group of treacherous scum more justly hanged. As deserters from the U.S. Army, most of whose Irish contingents were loyal American Patriots, they received poetic vengeance. My piss cascades down the centuries to stain their disreputable crimes. They are a blot on Irish-American history and a disgrace to the honor of U.S. arms.
dbstarfish 1 year ago
@dbstarfish "honor of US arms" ???????????
TheTAFFYWILLIAMS 1 year ago
if mexico would of won maybe today texas n cali would be still mexico too bad they lost
456024545 1 year ago
@456024545 Yeah and maybe those places would be as fucked up as Mexico is now, You're an idiot. Go try living in Mexico dumb-ass, let me know how you like it!
dbstarfish 1 year ago
@dbstarfish first im not an idiot second ur a dirty jew fucking douchebag
456024545 1 year ago
@456024545 My Aryan tinkle sprinkles off the sarcophagus of your pea brain.
The Irish American Army beat the Mexicans in every battle against overwhelming odds, courage, something you'll never know and gained victory. I can't be bother with your nonsense, no courage, never a soldier, and no character.
dbstarfish 1 year ago
@dbstarfish yea irish americans were treated so badd they had courage to do someones work u called that courage mexicans had courage wen they were defending there country and had the guts to hold the lines with the americans so wat i mean is that ur wrong shit leaves a stain on ur forehead
456024545 1 year ago
ERIN GO BRAGH! y VIVA MÉXICO CABRONES!!!!
johnnyholly 1 year ago 4
Viva La San Patrico's! Viva rey Juan Carlos! Viva Wolf-Tone! Viva Bobby Sands! VIVA!
LuckyShitZu 1 year ago
Hi, I'm Venezuelan. Just watch the film now and I was in tears, so moving. I totally admire the spirit of the Irish and in all their nature, I lived in Ireland and I can say that their spirit still the same they are amazing people that will fight in any war or cause for the freedom of any nation, I love Ireland and Irish people, I hope you keep spreading all over the world to and keep giving the best of you to all other cultures. Come to Venezuela please!!! And save us from Chavez!!!!
Jeenymt 1 year ago
God bless the Irishmen who fought for the catholic Mexico. Moreover, there were also germans, frenchmen, poles and swisses who also fought on the Mexican side.
The truth behind all this, is that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH
rocados2 2 years ago 30
dont forget the scots as well! all the very best to you and yours my friend.
mudfries 1 year ago
@rocados2 God bless the people who crossed all boundaries to fight imperialism - be they Irish, Mexican, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, or Atheist.
borbo23 1 year ago
@rocados2 Oy Veh Moshi, they've discovered the secret Jewish Plot for world domination! Please, such worn out freemason and antisemitic conspiracy theories, can't you do better than that?
dbstarfish 1 year ago
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Cheval52 1 year ago
@rocados2 You can't be a Catholic and a Jew hater. This is crystal clear from the pronouncements of the popes of the last half century and from the actions of brave clergy and laypeople who risked themselves to save lives in WWII. Besides, of what ethnic affiliation were the Holy Family? Please, find another religion. You're embarrassing the rest of us.
mojave19 1 year ago
@mojave19
So Jesus was a Jew?
That's why he spent so much time denouncing the pharisees and everything that Judaism was becoming (ie. Talmudism). He may have been born into a Jewish family, but a Catholic surely believes him as the Son of God. You do realise that Jesus was put to death for "Anti-Semitism". Of course hating peopel simply for being Jews is idiocy. But there is much about Judaism that should be reviled.
Cathain78 1 year ago
@rocados2 Where the hell do you get your history,That point America was pretty much just a white protestant country.The Irish proved themselves loyal Americans even in this film.They fought for what they knew was right.Most of the Irishmen in the U.S army stayed loyal soldiers and damn fine ones at that The government wasn't controlled by Jews or Freemasons.at that point it was controlled by racist southerners.I know both and both are some of my closest and most loyal friends.
markmason1000 1 year ago
@rocados2THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH is your a crazy son of a bitch if you think that the Jews secretly run the government . Theres a word for people that dont trust foreigners or people from different religions,our Irish ancestors in America learned about them the hard way there called Nativitists
markmason1000 1 year ago
@rocados2 respects from england ! and no we arent racist
ibidydo 10 months ago
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@rocados2 WHAT A GREAT POST ! MORE TRUE WORDS WERE NEVER SAID ! ...AND THEY BEAR REPETEING """""""""that the USA was (and it is still) ruled by freemasons and jews. They wanted to avoid to have a strong catholic empire as neighbor, therefore they attacked Mexico, so that the USA will have in the future the free path to declare war to any country which opposes jewish domination THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH"""""""""""
GoatSoup77 8 months ago
@rocados2 where do you get these truths from?
HumanityUnitedEarth 8 months ago
@rocados2 LOL I can swear you both a nazi or a Religous Fanatic, you know how History works, so dont say incoherences, Church has been more opresive than nothing else created by the hands of humanity, Free Masons and Jews, for the love of god, they are both individual groups that hardly searches to make open war. they wnat power, yes I agree for hardly by using Belic motives. What are your going to say next? that the holocaust was done in a correct purpouse, christ..........
heroestratos 4 months ago
@rocados2 "Jewish domination"? You may like good people, but you're still an idiot. Or, as they say in Ireland, "a fucking egit!"
IncidentalChopstics 2 weeks ago
duneranger.................lo dicho pobre gringo pendejo con cultura de plastico, ademas la verdad, SI, te urge aprender historia....ANIMAL....y ademas puto.....I won't even respond to that... pinhce retardado!
VIVA MEXICO..........y tu chinga tu madre! punto.
rcuetara 2 years ago 3
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duneranger 1 year ago
@duneranger...........lo mismo chinga y rechinga tu putisima madre animal, aprende historia y si tanto te molestan mis comentarios deja de chingar y no repondas maricon de cagada, por eso es que no escribire mas en ingles para reponderte, sub-humano de plastico, cultura de mierda, tu ni siquiera puedes hablar mi idioma, pobre guey, muerete!
rcuetara 1 year ago
duneranger........poor knowledge of history, what a shame....pobre pendejo, aprende historia, animal.
rcuetara 2 years ago
@rcuetara oh really please name a unit that mexico has had that is of any recognition faggot. pancho villa the coward raider or the kids who jumped off a building...take your pick...poor knowledge of history lmao...I won't even respond to that...
duneranger 2 years ago
@duneranger how is pancho villa a coward explain that.
pollorifa13 1 year ago
@pollorifa13 While he got the job done, his raids and acquisition of land from peasants was less then diplomatic...My whole response to this video is pointing out that the Irish were the most famous and fiercest in Mexico's military history (or what military history Mexico has), seeing that their participation in all of the worlds major wars was almost null.
duneranger 1 year ago
¡Erin go bragh!
bombo32 2 years ago 3
VIVA MEXICOOOOO Lastima que a nuestros politicos no les interese realmente exponer la gran historia militar de nuestro pais yo recuerdo en "mi libro de texto gratuito" de la primaria que solo habia un pequeño parrafo de este batallon asi como del Escuadron 201 debemos recordar nuestro pasado y llenarnos de orgullo
zozusss 2 years ago 2
por ahi abia leeido sobre el batallon de san patricio; pero asta que investigue, y me tope con el batallon de irlandeses supe lo que fue y la importancia que tubo, pero pues a si es esto; Mucho sobre la independecia, y aparte mal explicado. nada sobre estos acontesimientos transcendentales, aparte poco o nada sobre la revolucion y acontecimientos de levantamiento de armas contra el gobierno.
JonaMede 2 years ago
From General Ulysses S. Grant memoirs about the war against Mexico: "I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day, regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation."
mar0113 2 years ago 5
This will alway's will be Mexico as God is my witness i bet those saint batallions were well rewarded by our lord. fuck amerikakakrakers they stoled all our ritches from gold diamonds to oil the Aztecs souls will take there land back one day for it is written"A coward dies a 1000 deaths a soldier dies once"God will work in mysterious ways i promise.
Baskaism 2 years ago 2
wow someone is a sore loser
duneranger 2 years ago
sadly the irish were the only decent unit mexico has ever had....
duneranger 2 years ago
@duneranger u talk alot of bullshit u mexican hater haha get a life it seems u have alot of free time to only critizise mexico no one gives a fuck about ur opinion here go to a mexican hater blog or those things u no life haters do
pollorifa13 1 year ago
@pollorifa13 Not a Mexican hater, I just respond to blatantly wrong information spread by ignorant twats such as yourself.
duneranger 1 year ago
les recomiendo leer el libro "La regeneracion de un pueblo pestilente: la anexion de México a Estados Unidos 1846-1848" de Raul Bringas Nostti. Es un libro basado en pruebas oficiales donde Polk queria anexar a toda la republica
TheTofico 2 years ago
que se muedan los gavachos puercos viva Mexico y Ireland
SK8TAHGEE 2 years ago 2
En que pajina en el libro de historia de mexico puedo leer sobre los irlandeses yayudaron a Mexico yo jamas he hoido eso
X4SpeedyMaloX4 2 years ago
La historia de los Irlandeses en Mexico es deficil de aprender porque fueron fugitivos, cambiaron sus nombres e indentidades para evitar el ejercito de EEUU
theSTAR70 2 years ago
is true they were irish helping Mexico in the war or is false
X4SpeedyMaloX4 2 years ago
it's true
theSTAR70 2 years ago
irlandeses en Mexico cierto o falso?
X4SpeedyMaloX4 2 years ago
cierto
theSTAR70 2 years ago
Cierto, compa. Lee "Batallón de San Patricio", de la escritora oaxaqueña Patricia Cox.
collantes9 2 years ago
god bless the irish catholics who fought and died
irishbuy 2 years ago 13
im so' proud! about this history, im mexican, and i love the way irish came to mexicane side, i never knew why i like more irish than US people, but now i know lol, Erin Go Bragh!!! in the mexicans hearts!,
un arbazo enorme, y mis mas sinceros respetos a su valiente y honorable pueblo, lleno de gente no solo poderosa, sino de enorme corazón! @irishbuy
lordnovak 1 year ago
Is "One Man's Hero available in English? Or is it just another victim of the saxon censorship machine that doesn't exisat?
Uhrhausen 2 years ago
one man's hero is an american film, so YES.
gewerh44 2 years ago 3
Well said, bro. I've been looking this movie for a long time, because I read the novel in which is based. I finally saw it last weekend; awesome movie, quite accurate with the historical background. I undesrtand this film was banned in many parts of the US.
collantes9 2 years ago
Thanks for the information. Since you mentioned there was a book, I managed to google my way to Michael Hogan's "The Irish Soldiers of Mexico." Behind every good movie, there's a great book.
Uhrhausen 2 years ago
also read, " The Shamrock and the Sword" for more info
theSTAR70 2 years ago
Woah Woah I have never ever hear of any video being banned in the US....We aren't communists...
duneranger 2 years ago
I'm not saying you guys are "commies"... Besides, I don't like those guys either. I'm just saying that as the saying goes, "History is written by the winners"... And quite often, edited by them, though "winners" are not always the "good guys", as in this case.
collantes9 2 years ago 2
Yes that is true. Its just on some of our history channels they portray the St Patrick Battalion as fierce fighters rather than deserters
duneranger 2 years ago 3
There is no shame in deserting a wrong cause.
It takes strength of conviction to stand up for what is right, admitting that you are on the wrong side and stepping over to the other side. If only more people had the courage to do the same, tyrants would not be able to wreak as much havoc and spill as much blood as they do.
Fierce fighters are fierce fighters, regardless of what side they fight on. Any army worthy of the name respects even it's enemies when they are fierce fighters.
Cathain78 2 years ago 2
You do realize that the San Patricio's were some of the fiercest fighters the U.S. met in combat, right? And they were justified in their desertion. The U.S. of today is hardly the same country it was.
WestCanuckistan 2 years ago 8
@WestCanuckistan I know they were....all I was saying its sad that Mexico's fiercest unit wasn't even Mexican...
duneranger 2 years ago 2
We can all enjoy the irony in that.
WestCanuckistan 2 years ago
Right through to WW1...Irish...French///German
peterann1 2 years ago
I wouldn't say that. The fiercest fighters in that war were six teenagers in the Mexican Military Academy at Chapultepec that held off the Marine advance.
Lepper36 2 years ago 2
@duneranger existian unidades de guerrilleros mexicanos veteranos de guerras anteriores, y ellos tambien les dieron un dolor de cabeza a los gringos... no eran oficialmente batallones sino cuadrillas de rancheros que iban armados hasta los dientes y atacaban sin previo aviso a los campamentos gringos.
Si Morelos, Villa o Diaz hubieran sido generales en esa epoca (ya que los 3 mostraron grandes aptitudes para el campo de batalla) y no Santa Ana, la historia seria algo diferente
lavincelaya 1 year ago
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duneranger 1 year ago
@duneranger ur stupid how can u say they were the fiercest unit if u dont even know mexican history.. i do honor them doe.. and the fiercest unit was the chapultepec batallion..
pollorifa13 1 year ago
@pollorifa13 Wow fail, for one the battle was a total rout and the only mentionable names were the cadets who jumped off the academy castle point...I know the history...
duneranger 1 year ago
Oh yes you are comunists, now you are poor, unemployed and non educated, homosexuales and drugadicts, that's comunism, everybody's the same.
Paschnider 2 years ago
At the moment of their hanging in San Angel,whenthe Mexican flag was lowered, they all cried out in unison, "GIVE THEM GUNFIRE" showing btheir allegiance to Mexico at the time of Death. Alvaro Obregon(O'brien) and Vicente Fox are decendants of thse Irish Heroes.
VIVA JUAN RELEY ( John Riley) !! Hero of Mexico!
isaacsenglish 3 years ago 2
I don't know about Obregon but Vicente Fox could hardly be a descendant of the San Patricios as a) Fox is an English name, not Irish and b) the family had nothing to do with Mexico until his grandfather came to Mexico from Ohio in the 1920's.
belgie81 2 years ago 2
Apparently you haven't heard of the the anglicisation of Ireland.
WestCanuckistan 2 years ago 3
we should indeed recognize John Riley and the san patricios as Heroes. Im mexican and its sad that nobody knows about these truly heroes that gave their life for my country and their religion.
gewerh44 2 years ago 4
I am actually doing a term paper on this, and I think I may try and post it somewhere for people who would be interested in knowing about them.
matlockatemyhouse 2 years ago
thats a great thing to do, I thank you for it.
gewerh44 2 years ago
pinches gringos!!!chinguen a su madre!!!!!!!
cesargaitan10 3 years ago 4
You know the San Patricios were "gringos" too. Hurling racist insults does not well serve the noble principles the Colorados were fighting for.
belgie81 2 years ago 4
god bless the San Patricio battalion,my ancestor fought bravely
ERIN GO BRAGH!!!! VIVA MEXICO!!!!
zerosk8er175 3 years ago 4
not a big fan of mexican army or defectors but i sympathize with los san patricios
rifleman1122 3 years ago
god bless you
ELViejito100 3 years ago
Rifleman how can you say u are not a fan of Mexico or their defectors but u sympathize with the Los San Patricios why is that i wonder? they where defectors from the US
Milford06 3 years ago
The San Patricios were loyal to the true sense of freedom fighting and justice, since they fought side by side with us Mexicans, so they are heroes, real heroes and that is a strange thing, for real heroes like those are not usually recognized.
collantes9 2 years ago
Erin Go Bragh (Ireland Forever)
Mexico por Siempre (Mexico Forever)
kriegsmark 3 years ago 3
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todo es por la religion??? catolica, cristiana, budista, misma mierda.
soyelquesoy85 3 years ago
Did reasearch most things U say r lies 88 percent%lies people look up this history California is california USA never bought california they stole the land just like in texas thats when the over 200 irish men from the oppisite sides of the war joined Mexico led by General John Riley there was alway's war American rebelion started killing Mexican&Indians in mexico&thats how it started if they did buy land it was diffrent but mexico would never sell that much land to the usa its documented
saulmorakles3 3 years ago
texas rebelled against mexico as did many other regions, texas became indepedent, texas joined the usa, so its not a direct theft as mexico failed to rewconquer texas
Bighairyfart 3 years ago
The southern part of what is now Texas was part of Matamoros, Mexico. My great, great Mexican grandfather owned land north of the Rio Grande. He was forced to surrender his property and was hanged by American soldiers. Generations later, my father had to work his ass off to legaly enter the U.S (South Texas) and buy back some of the property that was meant for him in the first place.
sunnybgood19 2 years ago
was ur grandfather a european settler in texas or a pueblo or a mexican
Bighairyfart 2 years ago
His father was mestizo but his mother was tamaulipeca. My great, great grandfather had inherited the land from his father, who had acquired it after helping wth the construction of the levees along the Rio Bravo/Rio Grande. What history says about which government owned what, means nothing to the people who actually lived in those areas and were just trying to live their lives. My dad's mother, is a descendent from one of los colorados de san patricio.
missiongetcute 2 years ago
Riley was a captain. It's documented.
WestCanuckistan 2 years ago 3
Later Major. I'm writing a novel about them.
MrCopperhead1861 2 years ago 3
Glory to LOS COLORADOS DE SAN PATRICIO. They were the purest heroes of our entire history, because they fought for an ideal and died for it. VIVA IRLANDA, VIVA MEXICO. Batallon de San Patricio, MURIO POR LA PATRIA!!!!
gustavogomezdiaz 3 years ago 6
i wish mexica won if i was in the war i would not give up unitl we won that war if i die in that war i will die unitl usa give up VIVA MEXICO !!!!!!!!!!!111111
90sunkillerx 3 years ago
What movie is this?
Kronstadtsuperior 3 years ago
Viva Mexico!Los soldado's Mexicano's y General Santa Anna y Viva Ireland!Los San Patricio's=puro's soldado's de honor peliando la guerra buena Dios vendito Gracias por la vendision de esto's soldado's de la Igliesa Catholica
HOMEYTO13 3 years ago 3
Theodore Roosevelt said: "While these countries (Latin America)remain Catholic, we will not be able to dominate them."
Latin America has long ago lost the Faith, without the Faith, they are NOTHING, they have NOTHING. A dirt poor peasant who has the real Faith, is worth more than every millionaire Capitalist.
Wake up Latinos! The Capitalist and the Bolsheviks are on the same side. The ONLY opposition is the true Faith. The war against Mexico was against Catholicism.
AMClaret1 3 years ago
Congratulations, rare is the person with the ability to cut through the bullshit. I applaud your insight.
Cathain78 2 years ago 3
toda esa mierda por la religión, vaya vaya que raro
soyelquesoy85 3 years ago
Long Live Mexico and Ireland!
Gasaqui 3 years ago 11
Long Live Mexico and Ireland!
gewerh43 3 years ago 15
@gewerh43 you are awesome :D
LaVenganzadeCarlos 1 year ago
Viva Mexico! Long live Ireland!
lilysbabyboi 3 years ago 6
Not a religious war, a war against oppression for the Irish - show me an Irishman who respects authority and I'll show you...wait, you show me that and either you're lying or I'm hallucinating. Many white Texans were Catholic.
bill0756 3 years ago
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Why do the Irish fight each other?-Because they can find no better opponent!
The Irish were the nigs of that time. There wasn't anything lower, what were they going to do? They didn't have anything to lose in stature, so they acted out in this way and others(Molly Maguires, politicals, gangs, etc). Plenty of Irish fighting for the US side too. Same in civil war-Irish against Irish. In Ireland, the English owned 80% of the land and it was English policy to export grain while the Irish starved.
bill0756 3 years ago
The "nigs"?
Your mother sure raised a good 'un.
duffers 3 years ago 4
"Tan lejos de Dios, tan cerca de Estados Unidos". Porfirio Diaz.
lachiripa2001 3 years ago 2
Asi es.
ELViejito100 3 years ago
is this the movie where they burned Berenger's face and then did it again on the other side because the soldier burned him on the wrong side?
HonorGuard117 3 years ago
¡¡¡VIVA MÉXICO!!!
torres090 3 years ago 3
No doubt there were IRish fighting in the American Army on the other side.
hollywoodwerewolf 3 years ago 2
love this movie so much...=)
loved the irish sooo much =)
andrerosh89 3 years ago
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
buachailldeas 3 years ago
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well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
buachailldeas 3 years ago
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
buachailldeas 3 years ago
well peterann, yes they did, many of the irish were already experiened in european armies especially with artillery. this experience helped slow the till then speedy march of the yanks. they were great men, true irishmen.
buachailldeas 3 years ago
I have a question: Did Mexico truly value the skills of 'San Patricios' or was it a political motion?
peterann1 3 years ago
I sincerely doubt this was political motion on the part of the Mexicans. Nearly 800 Irishmen left the American invaders to fight against two major things: Opression and tyranny from the U.S. They related very deeply with the Mexican cause and to this day the Mexican flag flies in the home town of Jon Riley in Clifden,County Galway. Mexico and Ireland share a very common bond. Mexico has acknowledged the bravery and loyalty of the San Patricios and many places in Mexico are named in their honor.
xrayjaime 3 years ago 5
Thank you for responses....to ALL! I honestly never knew of San Particios and don't remember any display in the Fifth Avenue Marches of Saint Patricks Day in New York City. Did Mexico recognise the German 'volunteers' also? 'Yorkville' NYC was Irish/German, home of the 'Fighting 69th' at Seventh Regiment Amory.
peterann1 3 years ago
They all fought under the same San Patricio banner since the major of them, of course, were Irish.
xrayjaime 3 years ago
hi xray
I am irish and have lived in Mexico for a few years and one place you should all see on St.Patricks day is San Patricio near Barra De Navidad on the Pacific side for the best paddies day parade and party ever
svcelticdancer 3 years ago
I might have to go there next year. Thanks for the heads-up!
xrayjaime 3 years ago
ok ray. There is cheap hotels etc in that area and if none available check out barra de navidad. Thats the town near san patricio. Barra de navidad was split up and land given to the irish as a gift for helping in an evasion on the pacific coast
svcelticdancer 3 years ago
The motivations were, primarily land and good wages that the Mexicans offer, among the respect of their religion (many Irishmen were not allowed to practice their faith, or were mocked) and perhaps additionally, some sympathised with the Mexicans, seeing parallels between home and there.
Good men that fought for what was right, regardless of motivation.
I need to grab this film.
duffers 3 years ago 2
Man they have some bad irish accents
fuckapotomis 3 years ago
it's a hard one to do well if you haven't lived with it. irish people are the only ones who'd notice if it was bad or not. i thought de caprios accent was great in blood diamond till i asked an african friend who said it was bad as tom cruise irish accent in far and away. that was worth the laugh though
cameramanAL 3 years ago
I am Irish you silly sausage i'm from limerick. Remember the police fella in the old batman? Who was always with commisioner gordon? His accent was so fuckin shite the guy who played the commish complained about him. Also i think you'll agree the Irsh never had a tendancy towards elf hats
fuckapotomis 3 years ago
ha! i'd forgotten about that guy. he had one of those rainbow leprachaun accents nobody on this island could explain. "a shur bida tooraloora batman!" but have you ever seen the devils own? "i told ya before. it's not an american story, it's an irish story. there are no happy endins." worst accent ever!
but then i though gibson was good in braveheart till i was told otherwise too
cameramanAL 3 years ago
Ah man Gibson was shite! Kevin costner in robn hood was something else. He didn't even try! He spoke in his normal accent and pretended he was english. Although Christian Slater at least over pronounced his T's
fuckapotomis 3 years ago
Hey....I'm Irish/German from Yorkville NYC USA. Only a dummy with a brogue with elfen hat is illegal alien looking for pickup by immigration.....Mexhanos run our streets unscathed pretending to be Puerto Ricans.
peterann1 3 years ago
Hehe Pretending to be puerto rican? Could i go and pretend to be jewish?
fuckapotomis 3 years ago 2
Sure you can. Yah just gotta get the lingo right and adjust your accent. How Jewish is Jackie Mason? Previous work had Russian emmigrants brought in as 'discrimated Jews.' I laughed at explanation of Seder and Passover....they were coached in Russia...had no clue. Such a thing. Oi Gevalt!
peterann1 3 years ago
Excellent. I convinced quite a few people i was ewish when i was thriteen....for some reason people believe me.....
fuckapotomis 3 years ago
I thought I was in the 'Cat Birds Seat' with a Southern New Jersey accent from life down there....pegged in Ohio as a 'Neu Yawker.' 'Gimme a bagle with butter, datz my parking space, I live at sixty toid and toid, whaddayah want...a prize...get out of my face, parking meter is broken and you issue a summons....fix da stinkin meter.' When I get mad I switch to GI German...all I got from public school education....Yiddish...'Yo Heime...stumpf yourself.' Smuck. Oi Gevalt!
peterann1 3 years ago
when i was in college in dublin my housemates told me one of their jewish friends was coming over. i thought cool, i love asking pople about their traditions, history etc.
so she was in the kitchen and in i arrived. after a few drinks i decided i'd ask her about passover or something or the Maccabees.
"eh, i'm presbyterian" was all she could tell me on the subject.
funny stuff apparantly if you weren't me!
cameramanAL 3 years ago
Very funny to me as an Epicopalian...you might have taken offense if she said she was Anglican. Presbyterianism is Scottish! They have no clue.
In the late nineteenth century, being Jewish in NYC was not a problem but finding a good job was. Apart from 'Church of Christ Scientist', many joined something called 'Society of Ethical Culture' which was like 'non denominal non Chistian something.' My posts are not to make offense to anyone.
peterann1 3 years ago
Texans caught Santa Anna of guard cowards.
USRLA 4 years ago
A pretty good movie...
thanksforthemusic 4 years ago