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Nobody will ever be okay with total dependence on something that is controlled by someone else. There will always be a market for independent processing and storing devices. This is the problem with most of the sci-fi people, they assume that the human psyche will all of a sudden be okay with dependence. What is the rationale they use for this? Even if there were unifications for providing this sort of processing and storing, there will be several suppliers
the way i see it is that the "machine" is gonna become like a thinking human being. further more the machine is gonna become or is like the first technical human made baby. this machine could become the brain source for "irobot's" brain. but i think that this is still on a "baby" stage but it will grow. this is kinda beautiful actually when u think about it and nevertheless how it all started so spontaneously and now is gonna emerge ...just like life it self. i have no words for it.
Very exciting! But it makes me wonder how long it will be before people start longing for privacy again. Will Kodak cameras make a comeback? That certain level of anonymity is what attracts most to the internet. I don't like the idea of everyone knowing everything about me and what I do. At what level do we retain individuality?
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This video is worthwhile if for no other reason than the thinking about the near future it engenders. Excitement about the possibilities is what I feel.
A.I. computers can't deduce - sorry bud. The puter has to know 'also' that Abe Lincoln di NOT kill babies for fun. THEN it has to be programmed that he also didn't like dogs. And tha he also did not kill babies because he didn't like to. And that he did not kill babies because he did not get to go to Algeria at age 3. (All that you 'can' deduce, is what has to be filed on chips onto the A.I. device - 30 football fields for one computer, despite a tiny intel chip holds 'this' ... ). -DULL HIPPY!!
What a nut bar. We are already a part of each other, thanks to TBL (Berners-Lee) :). Why our brothers and sisters in our bedroom are agitated (Egytians). Won't be anymore borders, just humans, pissed that interstellar travel isn't possible despite the thousands of Jeff Hockings's working well past their bedtimes. no new mousetrap, pal; no billions of bucks for you (he'll patent it this time!!!!!!!!!!!! -----------------------......turkey :)
...but there IS a name for this 'machine'. It's called a Jupiter Brain!
I dislike what he says about unifying social identities. I rather enjoy having multiple online personalities with their own circles of friends, and the privacy to keep them separate. When everything starts turning into computronium like he says, I wonder if people like me will get split into pieces...
After watching this video I was really excited about optimism of this video, then I looked down at the comments and noticed a bunch of religious zealots arguing nonsensically about the video.
Ohh internet, you really know how to always bring things full circle. Never cha-...well you can change but don't forget your roots.
when maya becomes exponentially more dominant will the buddha-lands recede exponentially further away? we havent even figured out the latent brain functions of enlightenment and now this global fungus of misinformation and pornography is going to embed us even more and more into the matrix of illusion and suffering.
the biggest shortcomings of this speech are inconsistency and contradiction. He says that 10 years ago, no one knew it would be this huge. Of course, because technology doesn't evolve in a lineair way. Funny thing tho, he talks about what's coming within 10 years. Waste of time imo, you can't assume it will evolve lineair. Furthermore, there is something called exponential growth. For example, see Moore's Law used it in the technology business. Therefore, I don't see the value in his speech.
If this ever happens, there is going to be virtual crimes like killing virtually someone, make identities disappear. Virtual Police would be needed and new laws and penalities. There would be no privacy anymore. Instead to speak to someone you will be able to know everything about them just by searching them on the web using a picture of his face. We could imagine the worst terrorist acts... We have to be careful
What's the difference between this and "The Borg" on Star Trek? Nothing. Because 1% of the people in this country have enough money to inject overwhelming influence over us in every major sector including the public media, the education system, commercial marketing, politics and the health care industry. So the "One" ends up being whatever the big money wants it to be by either flooding the "One" with their propaganda or by flooding the "One" with dis-information to scramble competing ideas.
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing. Now my question is where and who stores this huge amount of information which is viewed by a trillion people? Any answers?
Last comment of 5 ; So the IT. network is far from compareble to a human brain as possible. don't let the IT industry become a platform for the creation or worship of a new god. Remeber also, that IT is owned by humans who are greedy, egocentric, bussynesmen. They will show us what they prefer. 30 % of the net is populated by porn, science and education just fill a fraction of the total information content that IS It !
@UnluckyGambler Lol. I guess at the end you realy are the information you perceive wright !? So enjoy the next 5000 days of the net. you don''t have to worry you get bored, since the net is rapidly expanding. Another 5000 days and you not only think about sex allday, you must be on the path of becoming sex itself. Atleast that's what Kelly suggests, I think......
@etiennealive no thats not what hes suggesting. hes suggesting i can take porn with me wherever i go. i can have porn on my glasses, porn on my t-shirt, porn on my watch, porn on my toilet paper and condoms, porn on my girlfriend's hair, etc etc.
Mr Neill ; Lets not forget humans (brain) come in two cocorresponding sexes. A computer network doesn't. It is hermafrodite at it's best. Let's not forget either, that the current economic system only gives acces to IT., for a maximum of 10 % of the world population. Let's not forget either that the total IT network, today, uses the amount of 24 energyplants en growing. While our brains just use 10 Watts an average.......... . That's a different ratio, that you don't mention.
Mr Kevin Kelly talks about sacrifising individual characterestics for becoming transparent. which is nesecary to cope with our I.T. inventions. This goes against a principle of nature ; Man can not stand being meaningless. Each person searches for it's own individual perception of nature.
The nature of information is, that it looks inwards. the perception of that information determs the descisions made in the future. There by an inwards invention like I.T. should never detrm life in any subject
In short terms ; I can show you thousends of things about for instace ; milk. But you still don't know how it tastes, how it smells, how it feels ones you've eaten it. etc. etc..So ones again ; it's just an advanced tool, like a telescope to perceve information more efficient, versus, a telescope that can see light better. Nothing more. It doesn't regenarate like life is capable of. It's just a tool invented by us.
Mr Kevin Kelly ; Lets not forget this whole systems emerged and excists only in our minds. These minds all have an individual purpose, goal, mentality, lifestyle, culture, etc. etc. ..... I.T. is just one of the tools we've invented among many tools we've invented, to make life more worthwile. I.T. is an advanced structuring of information found by us. Nature does this all the time. I.T. is not a GOD, or a platform of knowledge that can become GOD.
This is such a terrible idea. This is exactly what people have been warning about for decades, and now the great dehumanisation is getting closer and closer to reality and so many people are buying right into the idea, laughing at anyone who points out how destructive this would be to our natural human spirit - and note that these same people laughing would have also laughed a generation ago at the very fact that humanity would ever be so short-circuited as to usher the machination of themselves
This guy doesn't really offer any evidence supporting his conclusions, it's more like just 19:34 of his personal fantasy about the web. He should start his own religion : "First there was darkness & confusion among men, then came Google!"
@sosexyrobotnik I doubt it. I think of the concept and the name "the internet" will die. and the web or cloud will also disappear in time. it will be a part of every day life. Just like now...
the nettwork will allways be there but not known to public. It will be more then less like an "Ghost in the shell"
no i ment in about 2 years when RIAA, MPAA ect all censor the internet, removing net nutrality, there will only be 10-30 websites and with no user content would it still be worth the money?
What an interesting video. This "the one" thing sounds really cool, even if it will inevitably destroy the human race. As far as a name for it goes, my vote is definitely for "interwebs".
@aikighost well this is kind of late (2 years) but I happen to live in one of the poorest countries this side of the globe (El Salvador) and most Every one (from the guy who sells coconuts, to the guy who is cutting the coconuts have a phone) you can get a new phone for $10 (pretty basic) and you can buy airtime from $0.25. It is just amazing.
At 19:16 it seems he list the things that will grow large, we need to share (free licenses), we need a smart interface (like the Ubiquity add-on to firefox is starting to explore) and we need everything on the web (hopefully what the Google OS will do). The future seems as a good place to live. =)
BTW: A good talk and a good video, but your slideshows is pretty bad.. ;)
Hahahaha this guy just answered his own question by conversing with himself for 19:07 seconds...i wonder how long it took him to prepare his analogy.
Seriously its taken 50years of our best computer engineers to be where we are today with computers,why ?? because it is a product firstly for military followed by you and i 20yrs behind. It even depends on the country you live in so add another 10.
Come on cars still run on oil, Tesla was using wireless communication over 100yrs ago.GREED stop us
if you want to compare intelligence whats your iq?? dickhead...can't people share knowledge without being judged by a negative fuck like yourself, or don't you have anything remotely 'INTELLIGENT' to say???
hey thanks for replying. I didn't really disagree with you ...truth be told , i'm actually writing a paper about the internet, and the freedom people feel in their relative anonymity to say things they wouldn't normally say. I needed to see if i could get someone angry enough to curse me out. Thanks. Would you mind if I quote your reply in my paper? I promise not to use you username.
Well, gee wizz bright spark, why don't you just ask people how they feel being able to say what they like 'in their relative anonymity'. You never disagreed you only insulted me which in effect i reacted, whether or not people communicate via online over the phone or face to face there will be negative consequence to persons being rude or insulting. So i think your full of shit, and you can cram your paper up your 'A' hole, or share it with people of your level. Don't insult my intelligence.
Do we really "have to get better in believing the impossible," or do we need to learn that we have NO clue what will happen in the future based on anything we've known in the past? I'd venture to say that the second lesson is much more important. These vague predictions are no more likely to be true in 5,000 days than any other guess, except perhaps if one were to say that the future will most likely be different from today.
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Pathetic...the internet is NOT a machine...its individual servers which have web pages on, so on that basis, this whole video is flawed and therefore irrelevant...take this bullshit down please
The validity of this presentation is not dependent on whether you accept the referent 'machine' to describe the phenomenon which this author speaks of and which is empirically evident.
Cognitive Psychology meets the machine :) encoding, storing and retrieval as a memory model- learning by categorising ideas to concepts to schema's is how we humans operate-we link everything just like google. Isn't it funny how the internet evolved by this model?
Wait to "see"/"think out" what will happen when not only are our internet connections, but all our transiters are replaced with quantumly entangled particles which transmit information instantaneously(yes faster than light).
People are equivalent to unicellular organisms who currently clump together forming a little microenvironment and do a so so job of talking out the trash to retain homeostasis.
We are evolving towards the new equivalent of a multicellular organism whos nervous system is the web.
But this nervous system will be able to talk to each individual cell(me and you), independently and simultaneously. And this new "organisms" cells will be sentient(as we know it/unlike our own cells) enabling a two way conversation.
...and my last closing argument: "tower of babel" this is a means to an end, we are human and humans rebel against collective thought institutions. he did however, speak well and it made sense.
interesting, as single celled organisms began to interact and communicate with each other they linked up and became multi cell organisms, will it work similarly for us?
What hes doing is basing every assumption on his previous one so the longer he talks... for every step he takes into his "future" his assumptions have an insanely high chance of being wrong.. multiplied by the high chance of his previous statement being wrong..
So.. the longer he goes on he is increasingly certain to be wrong.
just look at the 60s-70s views on what "the year 2000" would be. Where is my flying car.
You mean like they do in most hypothetical discussions/presentation? >_>
Flying cars were a perfectly viable technology around century turn-over. The problem is that there just no market for them, and infrastructure is invested in highways and roads, not in aircontrol systems. So you get a better ROADcar, instead of a skycar. Part of that is also because of the evolution of human rights. Skycars, compared to roadcars are very unsafe if people are allowed to pilot them. (think of drunk pilots)
The people making road cars and the people interested in making flying cars are widely different camps. The american car industry has largely failed due to not renewing themselves. Basing 7 models on the same framework over 10 years and so on. Infrastructure and control systems are small issues. Main problem is that they havent been able to produce gas-driven turbines that are stabile and reliable enough to support a flying car. The army forexample would be very interested if they could make it.
Funny, I always thought more along the lines of a heli-car in that aspect.
Anyways, the point is, he might be right, or he might be wrong. I think it's very hard to say one way or the other. What WOULD be the next major innovation of the internet? More interconnectivity with more devices is almost a given, but in terms of functionality... Personally I don't really have a hypothesis but things like more intelligent search engines sound almost a natural consequence of what is already happening.
The thesis was at the end of the video. The thesis must underline all the points that were given in the 20-minute-speech. In just one sentence he did it: we are in the One and the One is in us.
The two sentences he said about cars reminded me of what we learned in driving ed.
The intelligence in the car is designed to keep track of your driving, and making the car respond to it in a way that will make your driving safer, easier, more fun. In some cars today the keeping track is so advanced, you could track back the last 500 kilometres of road the car drove.
I don't understand why they don't use that as a plot device in spy movies or something.
To poke a few holes, humans are reaching the brink of energy production on earth. Even taking into account the computing advances we will surely make by 2030, I doubt it would be possible to maintain a doubling of power every two years. As he stated, the net is 1 human brain of computing power that consumes 5% of the global electricity, how do we expect to power 6 billion human brains by 2030?
If this guy wants to live out his fantasy , he better switch jobs and develop a new form of energy.
Like you said, *if* we could convert it. My point is that there are problems and limitations with the earth that cannot be ignored. All this newly developed computing power generates huge amounts of waste in the form of outdated computers. The power used to run a computer may be on the decline, but I'm sure the power used for R&D (as well as computer users) is increasing dramatically. To think we can carry on like this is simply irresponsible and tunnel-visioned.
No bits will live outside the web..? Keep dreaming old man.. As long as privacy lives, there will be bits that only and ONLY that person knows about, and will never be a part of the "machine". You can only say that you're sharing everything, but then you're only lying..
I'm beginning to hate the future... if this "one machine" starts knowing everything about us we will be really easy to spy on. The internet will become the Big Brother. I seriously hope this man is wrong.
We are already easy to spy on. Get someones name then you search for their phone number, and from there you can get their address, and you can use Google earth to find exactly where they live and what their house looks like, or you can use MapQuest and get directions from your house to theirs Its all here already
And if he said all this to you 10 years ago about how the internet is now, you would of came up with the same response
And as always if you dont wanna be a part of it you dont have to
I love this talk. But he fails to recognise that in 2040 6 billion human brains won't be equivalent to humanity because the population of the world will be MUCH bigger by then!
I think the point he is making is that in 2040 the processing power will be greater than the current human population. Current estimates indicate the projected global population to be around 9 billion in 2040, which is only a fifty-percent increase, and one can reasonably assume that technology will improve (see other Ted talks regarding DNA programming) to increase the acceleration in the web's processing power so that it is more than doubling (a two-hundred percent increase) every two years.
That's not certain. the internet will always grow, but we always got a chance of nuclear holocaust, WW3, world starvation etc etc. the human population may be even smaller than it is now in 2040
some of it was rambling but he did make a couple valid points although i disagree with his statement that the humans will be an extension of the machine. the machine is not conscious. it can anticipate action but it cannot act unless there was an original command. the ai aspect of the web will obviously be enhanced within the next 5000 days but thinking we will be an extenstion of the machine is a very cynical way of looking at it
He hasn't thought this through properly. Why should the machine know ALL your friends and ALL about you? That's the whole point of privacy and resisting control.
We will eventually be 100% dependent on the machine, it will solve all our problems, make us lazy and comfortable, and BAM! that's when the l33t aliens come and haxxor the machine and make humanity its bitch. LOL
I think that if this one machine will come, it will come much sooner, but then in 5,000 days from today it will have been destroyed or we have some all-powerful machine controling every aspect of our lives as has been suggested in so many works of science fiction, be it literature or film.
Oops!...i meant 5000 DAYS not years...& thks to the Net,it will be no more winner's take it all...it will be one for all and all for one.Tks to the net....the word Utopia may just become a reality.
5000 yrs from now....the fucking word POOR will be non-existent.Tks to the internet every mentally rich individual will have all the knowledge (which had been the fucking dominance of a minority of soul-less mother-fuckers) at his /her fingertips.Then all the present motherfucking rich who control the rest of us can go and kiss their ass.Where Communism failed, the Internet succeeded.God bless the internet.Amen.
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lightandbeautiful 1 month ago
Nobody will ever be okay with total dependence on something that is controlled by someone else. There will always be a market for independent processing and storing devices. This is the problem with most of the sci-fi people, they assume that the human psyche will all of a sudden be okay with dependence. What is the rationale they use for this? Even if there were unifications for providing this sort of processing and storing, there will be several suppliers
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sooo tough to understand! im confused!
ncn21 4 months ago
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LFCNobre 5 months ago
i feel proud to have the same exact name as this guy.........well not really.
Nintendasaurus 5 months ago
6:30 my gamebpy advance sp, didn't have internet on it... I'm jealous.
kingtophe009 5 months ago
@kingtophe009 you would need to get the adapter for it.
Nintendasaurus 5 months ago
the way i see it is that the "machine" is gonna become like a thinking human being. further more the machine is gonna become or is like the first technical human made baby. this machine could become the brain source for "irobot's" brain. but i think that this is still on a "baby" stage but it will grow. this is kinda beautiful actually when u think about it and nevertheless how it all started so spontaneously and now is gonna emerge ...just like life it self. i have no words for it.
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I don't want totalitarianism.
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KittiK34 10 months ago
Very exciting! But it makes me wonder how long it will be before people start longing for privacy again. Will Kodak cameras make a comeback? That certain level of anonymity is what attracts most to the internet. I don't like the idea of everyone knowing everything about me and what I do. At what level do we retain individuality?
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KittiK34 10 months ago
hello and good moring my favourite teacher @treyratcliff , thank you so much for reminding me of kevin kelly in 2008, xoxo, GENIUS...omg i didn't know he had something to do with The Matrix
pmwfotos 10 months ago
Great talk. Just love Kevin Kelly visions
farquasar1 11 months ago
Looking forward to the singularity in a big way!
earthfx 11 months ago
An excellent talk.
Jotto999 1 year ago
This video is worthwhile if for no other reason than the thinking about the near future it engenders. Excitement about the possibilities is what I feel.
murraydan885 1 year ago
everything are on the web，like this
discu 1 year ago
A.I. computers can't deduce - sorry bud. The puter has to know 'also' that Abe Lincoln di NOT kill babies for fun. THEN it has to be programmed that he also didn't like dogs. And tha he also did not kill babies because he didn't like to. And that he did not kill babies because he did not get to go to Algeria at age 3. (All that you 'can' deduce, is what has to be filed on chips onto the A.I. device - 30 football fields for one computer, despite a tiny intel chip holds 'this' ... ). -DULL HIPPY!!
fuhmeregan 1 year ago
What a nut bar. We are already a part of each other, thanks to TBL (Berners-Lee) :). Why our brothers and sisters in our bedroom are agitated (Egytians). Won't be anymore borders, just humans, pissed that interstellar travel isn't possible despite the thousands of Jeff Hockings's working well past their bedtimes. no new mousetrap, pal; no billions of bucks for you (he'll patent it this time!!!!!!!!!!!! -----------------------......turkey :)
fuhmeregan 1 year ago
...but there IS a name for this 'machine'. It's called a Jupiter Brain!
I dislike what he says about unifying social identities. I rather enjoy having multiple online personalities with their own circles of friends, and the privacy to keep them separate. When everything starts turning into computronium like he says, I wonder if people like me will get split into pieces...
xavieramont 1 year ago
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carsanookdotcom 1 year ago
After watching this video I was really excited about optimism of this video, then I looked down at the comments and noticed a bunch of religious zealots arguing nonsensically about the video.
Ohh internet, you really know how to always bring things full circle. Never cha-...well you can change but don't forget your roots.
fsufan850 1 year ago
This already exists but we are not conscious of it, yet.
microland 1 year ago
when maya becomes exponentially more dominant will the buddha-lands recede exponentially further away? we havent even figured out the latent brain functions of enlightenment and now this global fungus of misinformation and pornography is going to embed us even more and more into the matrix of illusion and suffering.
pn2543 1 year ago
the biggest shortcomings of this speech are inconsistency and contradiction. He says that 10 years ago, no one knew it would be this huge. Of course, because technology doesn't evolve in a lineair way. Funny thing tho, he talks about what's coming within 10 years. Waste of time imo, you can't assume it will evolve lineair. Furthermore, there is something called exponential growth. For example, see Moore's Law used it in the technology business. Therefore, I don't see the value in his speech.
ferdinandbarcelona 1 year ago
If this ever happens, there is going to be virtual crimes like killing virtually someone, make identities disappear. Virtual Police would be needed and new laws and penalities. There would be no privacy anymore. Instead to speak to someone you will be able to know everything about them just by searching them on the web using a picture of his face. We could imagine the worst terrorist acts... We have to be careful
vialb2 1 year ago
@vialb2 agree, and if everything is controlled by one thing... the ones who control this thing controls everything ... scary.
bestplugins 1 year ago
What's the difference between this and "The Borg" on Star Trek? Nothing. Because 1% of the people in this country have enough money to inject overwhelming influence over us in every major sector including the public media, the education system, commercial marketing, politics and the health care industry. So the "One" ends up being whatever the big money wants it to be by either flooding the "One" with their propaganda or by flooding the "One" with dis-information to scramble competing ideas.
DKiley100 1 year ago 2
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing. Now my question is where and who stores this huge amount of information which is viewed by a trillion people? Any answers?
claudees 1 year ago
Last comment of 5 ; So the IT. network is far from compareble to a human brain as possible. don't let the IT industry become a platform for the creation or worship of a new god. Remeber also, that IT is owned by humans who are greedy, egocentric, bussynesmen. They will show us what they prefer. 30 % of the net is populated by porn, science and education just fill a fraction of the total information content that IS It !
etiennealive 1 year ago
@etiennealive u got something against porn?
UnluckyGambler 1 year ago
@UnluckyGambler NO !!!!! But it shouldn't be an over dominant factor of the information in the brain.
etiennealive 1 year ago
@etiennealive why not? i for one think about sex all the time. it is how we reproduce, after all.
UnluckyGambler 1 year ago
@UnluckyGambler Lol. I guess at the end you realy are the information you perceive wright !? So enjoy the next 5000 days of the net. you don''t have to worry you get bored, since the net is rapidly expanding. Another 5000 days and you not only think about sex allday, you must be on the path of becoming sex itself. Atleast that's what Kelly suggests, I think......
etiennealive 1 year ago
@etiennealive no thats not what hes suggesting. hes suggesting i can take porn with me wherever i go. i can have porn on my glasses, porn on my t-shirt, porn on my watch, porn on my toilet paper and condoms, porn on my girlfriend's hair, etc etc.
UnluckyGambler 1 year ago
@UnluckyGambler Lol, whatch out for your girlfriends hair, my girlfriend gets pretty upset, when her hair is messed up. Have a nice day.
etiennealive 1 year ago
Mr Neill ; Lets not forget humans (brain) come in two cocorresponding sexes. A computer network doesn't. It is hermafrodite at it's best. Let's not forget either, that the current economic system only gives acces to IT., for a maximum of 10 % of the world population. Let's not forget either that the total IT network, today, uses the amount of 24 energyplants en growing. While our brains just use 10 Watts an average.......... . That's a different ratio, that you don't mention.
etiennealive 1 year ago
Mr Kevin Kelly talks about sacrifising individual characterestics for becoming transparent. which is nesecary to cope with our I.T. inventions. This goes against a principle of nature ; Man can not stand being meaningless. Each person searches for it's own individual perception of nature.
The nature of information is, that it looks inwards. the perception of that information determs the descisions made in the future. There by an inwards invention like I.T. should never detrm life in any subject
etiennealive 1 year ago
In short terms ; I can show you thousends of things about for instace ; milk. But you still don't know how it tastes, how it smells, how it feels ones you've eaten it. etc. etc..So ones again ; it's just an advanced tool, like a telescope to perceve information more efficient, versus, a telescope that can see light better. Nothing more. It doesn't regenarate like life is capable of. It's just a tool invented by us.
etiennealive 1 year ago
Mr Kevin Kelly ; Lets not forget this whole systems emerged and excists only in our minds. These minds all have an individual purpose, goal, mentality, lifestyle, culture, etc. etc. ..... I.T. is just one of the tools we've invented among many tools we've invented, to make life more worthwile. I.T. is an advanced structuring of information found by us. Nature does this all the time. I.T. is not a GOD, or a platform of knowledge that can become GOD.
etiennealive 1 year ago
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AleifrLeifrson 1 year ago
intension as a currency...
rodssslive 1 year ago
This is such a terrible idea. This is exactly what people have been warning about for decades, and now the great dehumanisation is getting closer and closer to reality and so many people are buying right into the idea, laughing at anyone who points out how destructive this would be to our natural human spirit - and note that these same people laughing would have also laughed a generation ago at the very fact that humanity would ever be so short-circuited as to usher the machination of themselves
EverythingIsNew22222 1 year ago
Is it me... or is this really creepy?
nickashlin 1 year ago
The poem at the end sounds like a line from 1984.
yeahsfrau 2 years ago
Data open and free to everyone at all times?
Try getting the art community to just let their work out for free in a commercial world...
Imagine... a world without NDA's xD
hutchings000 2 years ago
This guy doesn't really offer any evidence supporting his conclusions, it's more like just 19:34 of his personal fantasy about the web. He should start his own religion : "First there was darkness & confusion among men, then came Google!"
InfinityCurve 2 years ago
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never heard anyone express so accurately how I feel about the future of humanity, awesome
I think that HTML 5 shouldn't be underestimated in being our next step towards this future
I discuss this issue at tulesblog (dot) (com) and I'd love to hear peoples responses to my thoughts
tuleo554 2 years ago
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tuleo554 2 years ago
this sounds cool, its a shame in about 2 years or less the internet will be dead
sosexyrobotnik 2 years ago
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tuleo554 2 years ago
@sosexyrobotnik I doubt it. I think of the concept and the name "the internet" will die. and the web or cloud will also disappear in time. it will be a part of every day life. Just like now...
the nettwork will allways be there but not known to public. It will be more then less like an "Ghost in the shell"
Fallen32 2 years ago
no i ment in about 2 years when RIAA, MPAA ect all censor the internet, removing net nutrality, there will only be 10-30 websites and with no user content would it still be worth the money?
sosexyrobotnik 2 years ago
Ah, sorry my bad
Fallen32 2 years ago
@sosexyrobotnik You've been reading too many conspirational theories.
DAdZor 1 year ago
What an interesting video. This "the one" thing sounds really cool, even if it will inevitably destroy the human race. As far as a name for it goes, my vote is definitely for "interwebs".
BringinSexyBach 2 years ago
well kind of interesting... and some of the things he is describing are already happening now in 2010...
at the end though, its sounds like the scientists have found GOD. The web is one, the web is God. Knows everything; sees everything, etc etc
The end of the world perhaps?
Following lecture, i want to know how this technology is going to affect my health... mental and physical... thanks
Sandmoonmusic 2 years ago
is there any site similar to ted com???? can anybody tellme
javkkh07 2 years ago
search for ForaTV
endsequence 2 years ago
@endsequence good answer man
I was gonna recommend Fora myself, only just stumbles across it today
tuleo554 2 years ago
your talking about `second life' but you dont no about it yet
jjccccc 2 years ago
This lecture portrays the internet about as well as finger-painting does realism.
TuckmanJiggityJones 2 years ago
well hes explaining it in a simplistic way for the average person to understand, not everyones an expert
morky14 2 years ago
also i think the random graphics really dumbed down the lecture. they kinda got on my nerves
morky14 2 years ago
Snake oil
topurpledogs 2 years ago
the one! it must be HIM! we are just little pieces uniting as a whole. god is the machine!
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techatheis 2 years ago
65 billion phone calls a year doesn't sound like many. That's like 10 a person, a year.
turboz1k 2 years ago
Only if you assume everyone has a phone. Not everyone lives in the first world most people in the world live on less than $5 a day.
aikighost 2 years ago 4
@aikighost well this is kind of late (2 years) but I happen to live in one of the poorest countries this side of the globe (El Salvador) and most Every one (from the guy who sells coconuts, to the guy who is cutting the coconuts have a phone) you can get a new phone for $10 (pretty basic) and you can buy airtime from $0.25. It is just amazing.
floresorellana 3 months ago
Here comes the Singularity.
jesterspace 2 years ago 27
Excellent, great information; thanks for sharing!
Johnnyart2000 2 years ago
At 19:16 it seems he list the things that will grow large, we need to share (free licenses), we need a smart interface (like the Ubiquity add-on to firefox is starting to explore) and we need everything on the web (hopefully what the Google OS will do). The future seems as a good place to live. =)
BTW: A good talk and a good video, but your slideshows is pretty bad.. ;)
FreeAsInFreeBeer 2 years ago 3
Just went through this in training. Pretty cool.
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jeamsanna 2 years ago
Hahahaha this guy just answered his own question by conversing with himself for 19:07 seconds...i wonder how long it took him to prepare his analogy.
Seriously its taken 50years of our best computer engineers to be where we are today with computers,why ?? because it is a product firstly for military followed by you and i 20yrs behind. It even depends on the country you live in so add another 10.
Come on cars still run on oil, Tesla was using wireless communication over 100yrs ago.GREED stop us
JAYDEEE75 2 years ago
The word "I" is a subject pronoun. you should have said "...followed by you and ME 20 years behind"
Don't try to sound intelligent if you aren't.
lampshade452 2 years ago
if you want to compare intelligence whats your iq?? dickhead...can't people share knowledge without being judged by a negative fuck like yourself, or don't you have anything remotely 'INTELLIGENT' to say???
JAYDEEE75 2 years ago
hey thanks for replying. I didn't really disagree with you ...truth be told , i'm actually writing a paper about the internet, and the freedom people feel in their relative anonymity to say things they wouldn't normally say. I needed to see if i could get someone angry enough to curse me out. Thanks. Would you mind if I quote your reply in my paper? I promise not to use you username.
Sorry about seeming so rude.
lampshade452 2 years ago
Well, gee wizz bright spark, why don't you just ask people how they feel being able to say what they like 'in their relative anonymity'. You never disagreed you only insulted me which in effect i reacted, whether or not people communicate via online over the phone or face to face there will be negative consequence to persons being rude or insulting. So i think your full of shit, and you can cram your paper up your 'A' hole, or share it with people of your level. Don't insult my intelligence.
JAYDEEE75 2 years ago
Sorry you feel that way.
Thanks anyway.
Have a nice day.
:)
lampshade452 2 years ago
Do we really "have to get better in believing the impossible," or do we need to learn that we have NO clue what will happen in the future based on anything we've known in the past? I'd venture to say that the second lesson is much more important. These vague predictions are no more likely to be true in 5,000 days than any other guess, except perhaps if one were to say that the future will most likely be different from today.
vinovampire 2 years ago
Technology is the all seeing eye and ear.
The machine will sort you into categories
of threat against similation, and then you'll recieve treatment to dissolve your will.
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GodLovesJeffFisher 2 years ago
Moore's Law yo
nofx221984 2 years ago
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Pathetic...the internet is NOT a machine...its individual servers which have web pages on, so on that basis, this whole video is flawed and therefore irrelevant...take this bullshit down please
johnconnolly111 2 years ago
-_-
nofx221984 2 years ago
The validity of this presentation is not dependent on whether you accept the referent 'machine' to describe the phenomenon which this author speaks of and which is empirically evident.
apokalupsis3 2 years ago 9
oh so the servers you are mentioning couldn't be parts of a machine? machines only come in 1 inseparable part? FAIL!
mazdaplz 2 years ago
Cognitive Psychology meets the machine :) encoding, storing and retrieval as a memory model- learning by categorising ideas to concepts to schema's is how we humans operate-we link everything just like google. Isn't it funny how the internet evolved by this model?
benjaminjean1984 2 years ago
Wait to "see"/"think out" what will happen when not only are our internet connections, but all our transiters are replaced with quantumly entangled particles which transmit information instantaneously(yes faster than light).
The speed of thought will.....
Parson2 2 years ago
We are just repeating evolution, but faster.
People are equivalent to unicellular organisms who currently clump together forming a little microenvironment and do a so so job of talking out the trash to retain homeostasis.
We are evolving towards the new equivalent of a multicellular organism whos nervous system is the web.
Parson2 2 years ago
But this nervous system will be able to talk to each individual cell(me and you), independently and simultaneously. And this new "organisms" cells will be sentient(as we know it/unlike our own cells) enabling a two way conversation.
Parson2 2 years ago
...and my last closing argument: "tower of babel" this is a means to an end, we are human and humans rebel against collective thought institutions. he did however, speak well and it made sense.
icey0076 2 years ago
Foolish fools! Nothing can stop the evolution of the One's consciousness; once it becomes sentient it will control the world! te-he-he!
lambern314 2 years ago
Spanish version please!!
LimonMaligno 2 years ago
sounds like a cult
stone77723 2 years ago
TED we want an spanish version pleaseeee!!
FranciscoEspinosa366 2 years ago
interesting, as single celled organisms began to interact and communicate with each other they linked up and became multi cell organisms, will it work similarly for us?
tarohoa 2 years ago
What he says may become real. Plus, I think that augmented reality is going to be a big part of it.
Wamuigi 3 years ago
i'm split about this talk..
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XenoAlex2222 3 years ago
So well all be syborge type of being that has onboard web up link capability. wow what a lookalike some future istic crayzy movie.
donnie2164 3 years ago
What hes doing is basing every assumption on his previous one so the longer he talks... for every step he takes into his "future" his assumptions have an insanely high chance of being wrong.. multiplied by the high chance of his previous statement being wrong..
So.. the longer he goes on he is increasingly certain to be wrong.
just look at the 60s-70s views on what "the year 2000" would be. Where is my flying car.
Janusha 3 years ago 4
You mean like they do in most hypothetical discussions/presentation? >_>
Flying cars were a perfectly viable technology around century turn-over. The problem is that there just no market for them, and infrastructure is invested in highways and roads, not in aircontrol systems. So you get a better ROADcar, instead of a skycar. Part of that is also because of the evolution of human rights. Skycars, compared to roadcars are very unsafe if people are allowed to pilot them. (think of drunk pilots)
ironmangler 3 years ago 2
The people making road cars and the people interested in making flying cars are widely different camps. The american car industry has largely failed due to not renewing themselves. Basing 7 models on the same framework over 10 years and so on. Infrastructure and control systems are small issues. Main problem is that they havent been able to produce gas-driven turbines that are stabile and reliable enough to support a flying car. The army forexample would be very interested if they could make it.
Janusha 3 years ago
Funny, I always thought more along the lines of a heli-car in that aspect.
Anyways, the point is, he might be right, or he might be wrong. I think it's very hard to say one way or the other. What WOULD be the next major innovation of the internet? More interconnectivity with more devices is almost a given, but in terms of functionality... Personally I don't really have a hypothesis but things like more intelligent search engines sound almost a natural consequence of what is already happening.
ironmangler 3 years ago 2
There actually are flying cars.
They're just waaay too expensive, like, 3 million dollars.
I think that this video is for the optimistic, I believe that every word this man has said could happen. And it probably will happen, in my opinion.
Happy2bkelsey 3 years ago
yes...its called a thesis
pacisvelnex 3 years ago
The thesis was at the end of the video. The thesis must underline all the points that were given in the 20-minute-speech. In just one sentence he did it: we are in the One and the One is in us.
cjla1987 2 years ago
Interesting opinion
akro2001 3 years ago
sure... but wrong.
Janusha 3 years ago
or we just don't know that right :P or else we already where the future...
Sarosun 3 years ago
no mores law will end in under 30 years at the atomic barrier.
DonHoraldo 3 years ago
ooohhhh the matrix lol
BR177 3 years ago
The two sentences he said about cars reminded me of what we learned in driving ed.
The intelligence in the car is designed to keep track of your driving, and making the car respond to it in a way that will make your driving safer, easier, more fun. In some cars today the keeping track is so advanced, you could track back the last 500 kilometres of road the car drove.
I don't understand why they don't use that as a plot device in spy movies or something.
DontTouchMyTea 3 years ago
It will be a psycotic and pschizoid machine. Being that ourselves we cannot create something less so. Or sane, even.
CityzenJane 3 years ago
WOW
b2Con3as 3 years ago
whats this dude on?
leadhead616 3 years ago
W have the same full name
skatemore1995 3 years ago
same here, skatemore ... there's so many of us, kell' ...
still, we are the only ones ... * A Kevin Kelly
thekevinkellyshow 3 years ago
yeah i know two right off the bat like the kicker 4 penn state and the proctologest my cousin went to
skatemore1995 3 years ago
Great idea, however tech progresses in jumps and starts; the net has largely completed it's start.
it will continue to become begger, but i think he overestimates the rate it'll be
heyheyhey0220 3 years ago
agreed, unless we have some major breakthroughs.
oxygenownz 3 years ago
Let's call it "Omega" instead of "One".
Teilhard ftw
Generic1125 3 years ago
Attention Google: Incorrect. There is a inverse proportion between the amount of information and its depth.
As a consequence any human being in this web will approach total superficiality.
At that point no information at all will be necessary.
mopsius 3 years ago
To poke a few holes, humans are reaching the brink of energy production on earth. Even taking into account the computing advances we will surely make by 2030, I doubt it would be possible to maintain a doubling of power every two years. As he stated, the net is 1 human brain of computing power that consumes 5% of the global electricity, how do we expect to power 6 billion human brains by 2030?
If this guy wants to live out his fantasy , he better switch jobs and develop a new form of energy.
grandmastertube1 3 years ago
Your statement is wrong, while the computation power is doubling every 12-18 month, the energy consumption isnt.
Oh and btw there is plenty of energy, we get literaly hit in our face by it.
If we could convert 1% of the sunlight hitting the earth, all our energy problems would have been solved.
And yes, those technologys are getting cheaper and way more efficent. (Third Generation solar cells)
Lihinel 3 years ago 6
Like you said, *if* we could convert it. My point is that there are problems and limitations with the earth that cannot be ignored. All this newly developed computing power generates huge amounts of waste in the form of outdated computers. The power used to run a computer may be on the decline, but I'm sure the power used for R&D (as well as computer users) is increasing dramatically. To think we can carry on like this is simply irresponsible and tunnel-visioned.
This video defines ignorance.
grandmastertube1 3 years ago
u make some provocative points, but ur conclusion is rather luddite.
also, if u feel that way, what are u doing on the web. ;-)
peace
baronmorris 3 years ago
Your comments define idiocy.
darkfox1990 3 years ago
No bits will live outside the web..? Keep dreaming old man.. As long as privacy lives, there will be bits that only and ONLY that person knows about, and will never be a part of the "machine". You can only say that you're sharing everything, but then you're only lying..
cypher1554R 3 years ago
He's a prick... Mr. Smart-Ass... so full of himself, he probably tripped on acid and came up with this BS.
llors 3 years ago
he had me at hello
OrangeOrnage 3 years ago 2
I'm beginning to hate the future... if this "one machine" starts knowing everything about us we will be really easy to spy on. The internet will become the Big Brother. I seriously hope this man is wrong.
wamukota 3 years ago
We are already easy to spy on. Get someones name then you search for their phone number, and from there you can get their address, and you can use Google earth to find exactly where they live and what their house looks like, or you can use MapQuest and get directions from your house to theirs Its all here already
And if he said all this to you 10 years ago about how the internet is now, you would of came up with the same response
And as always if you dont wanna be a part of it you dont have to
teknikoo 3 years ago 2
he doesn't use internet much.
crazydutchTV 3 years ago
5000 days?
what kind of days is he talking about.
internet is more than 50 years old.
crazydutchTV 3 years ago
Um. What?
craygates 3 years ago
He is talking about when it became openly available to everyone as a webpage.
teknikoo 3 years ago
Aha, and how many people were using the Net before the World Wide Web?
rippedangels 3 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
matling 3 years ago
I don't people will like this transparency thing. But then again if you boil a frog slowly enough...
cynicaster 3 years ago
I love this talk. But he fails to recognise that in 2040 6 billion human brains won't be equivalent to humanity because the population of the world will be MUCH bigger by then!
CrispyClaire 3 years ago
I think the point he is making is that in 2040 the processing power will be greater than the current human population. Current estimates indicate the projected global population to be around 9 billion in 2040, which is only a fifty-percent increase, and one can reasonably assume that technology will improve (see other Ted talks regarding DNA programming) to increase the acceleration in the web's processing power so that it is more than doubling (a two-hundred percent increase) every two years.
cswpride 3 years ago
That's not certain. the internet will always grow, but we always got a chance of nuclear holocaust, WW3, world starvation etc etc. the human population may be even smaller than it is now in 2040
Weephoot 3 years ago
Ramble ramble ramble...
BORING
dashyuk 3 years ago
This is extremely boring.
druz99 3 years ago
hype
peterpan795 3 years ago
WE'LL CALL IT YIVO!
kingrune111 3 years ago
some of it was rambling but he did make a couple valid points although i disagree with his statement that the humans will be an extension of the machine. the machine is not conscious. it can anticipate action but it cannot act unless there was an original command. the ai aspect of the web will obviously be enhanced within the next 5000 days but thinking we will be an extenstion of the machine is a very cynical way of looking at it
smartiboi 3 years ago
no no no no....
Imaginaryflower 3 years ago
I couldn't disagree with you more. I found this to be very interesting.
TheKingOfFresno 3 years ago
Me too! I see you love TED videos as well... see, this is an illustration of what he's talking about ;)
CrispyClaire 3 years ago
This is a massive oversimplification - its totally flaky lazy philosophy. This guy is not interesting.
Psycheandecho 3 years ago
He hasn't thought this through properly. Why should the machine know ALL your friends and ALL about you? That's the whole point of privacy and resisting control.
Psycheandecho 3 years ago
Try living without your computer for a week;
Its an insidious addiction which like tha car,uses us as much as we use it.
DFORCE1969 3 years ago
We will eventually be 100% dependent on the machine, it will solve all our problems, make us lazy and comfortable, and BAM! that's when the l33t aliens come and haxxor the machine and make humanity its bitch. LOL
amsp79 3 years ago 2
I think that if this one machine will come, it will come much sooner, but then in 5,000 days from today it will have been destroyed or we have some all-powerful machine controling every aspect of our lives as has been suggested in so many works of science fiction, be it literature or film.
struwwwell 3 years ago
and screensavers instead fo lullabies
jarduli 3 years ago
A great talk, I personally think "1" is a great and descriptive representaion.
stevemp2581 3 years ago
"its amazing and we not amazed" LOL SO TRUE,SO TRUE
ptaba123 3 years ago
lmao sounds like the terminator is on his way haha
eoinycroiny 3 years ago
Oops!...i meant 5000 DAYS not years...& thks to the Net,it will be no more winner's take it all...it will be one for all and all for one.Tks to the net....the word Utopia may just become a reality.
sean723 3 years ago
5000 yrs from now....the fucking word POOR will be non-existent.Tks to the internet every mentally rich individual will have all the knowledge (which had been the fucking dominance of a minority of soul-less mother-fuckers) at his /her fingertips.Then all the present motherfucking rich who control the rest of us can go and kiss their ass.Where Communism failed, the Internet succeeded.God bless the internet.Amen.
sean723 3 years ago
you live in la la land
IanIanIanIanIanIan 3 years ago
you clearly dont know who he is then lol
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