Really!! Obviously you’re not qualified to talk about such a serious and intense subject (your Bible), yet you have the audacity to branch to Islam, as if you are Mr. Know-It-All, I guess you among other find it easy to always change the subject as false mean of giving yourself credence and imagined believability.
Mr., try to dig a little bit deeper before you make a fool out of yourself, and mislead and misguide others in the process. They say: ignorance is a bless, you sure have plenty.
GOD ask me are you worshipping me or are you worshipping the book??? "DID I EVEN TELL YOU THAT ANY BOOK WAS MY WORD? OR DID THIS WORLD TELL YOU THAT?" Then HE said to me "I'AM the ALMIGHTY GOD do u really think I need a book to talk to you??? NO I LIVE IN YOU!" GOD will never leave u in the blind! Why are books being translated what GOD forgot about HIS children that speak english and forgot to write a english copy. Do u believe 4one minute GOD left ur SALVATION in another mans hands???
GOD reveals to me many reason why the bible could not be HIS word! I asked GOD why did you let me study it like I did I KNOW IT SO WELL THAT I AM A WALKING BIBLE! "HE said so that you can clearly see 4urself the contridictions in 1 book misrepresenting me" GOD revealed this to me the bible says there is NO SIN GREATER THAN ANOTHER however if you work on the sabbath you were stoned to death! if working on the sabbath is a sin what is stoning someone to death?Do GOD need u to punish the wrong???
I study the Bible backwards and forwards I love GOD deeply. I live to praise HIM! But last week GOD spoke something to me that opened my eyes and proved that HE will not leave you in the dark if you are seeking HIM! "HE said I'am the ALMIGHTY GOD do you believe that as BIG as I am I can be captured in such a small book?" Then he went through the bible and showed many reasons why it is impossible to be HIS word! "I'AM the same then,NOW and in forever! eye4eye then NOW turn the other cheek????
@Aqsa002, did you actually watch the video? Jay explains it very clearly...all Bibles are translated once, from the same authoritative original-language text.
I guess that makes at least 2 Christians who "agree on how it is explained."
Well my brother it is not different translation there are a complete chapters in katholic old bible removed in kjv bible i think you need to read other bibles to see
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
“For god loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17- for god sent forth his son into the world ,not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.
“For god loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17- for god sent forth his son into the world ,not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.
Only (john-ch-8-vs-12) Therefore Jesus spoke again to them, saying: “I am the light of the world. He that follows me will by no means walk in darkness, but will possess the light of life.” Mark: no Luke: Matthew: no Only (john-ch-11-vs-25) Jesus said to her: “I am the resurrection and the life” Mark: no Luke: no Matthew:no
it is true that there is more than 1 kind of bible. Priests in diffrent places always changed it to keep people under control.In year 325 , after rome accepted christianity as a religion, they decided to choose 4 bibles from like 300 of them.So they gathered at the place , which is today's Iznik at anotolia, and tried to choose the best ones for their goals.The rest was banned , including The Gospel of Barnabas.
@kroland000 Rubbish. The Gospel of Barnabas is a medieval forgery written by a monk who converted to Islam. In it it places Nazareth by the sea, it is inland and that Pontius Pilate came to the Holy Land when Jesus was a baby. That is not true. There was only one Bible and still only one Bible.
If you read and old Koran that was printed in d 11th century & a new Koran that was printed in d 19th century, r not the same. D Koran that is printed in the 19th century their are lot of missing verses. 1of them s, There is no compulsion in religion Q 2:256 & if u Google Abrogated verses u could see all d verses that was taken out less than 25,000. Our New Test was written in 3 languages, Aramaic called Pishetta, Keone Greek & Latin "Vulgate". If you put them side by side they are the same.
christ4all2allmyall Noble QUR'AN has not had "ONE WORD, COMMA, PERIOD, OR LETTER" changed for 1400 hundred years. Your own Xian scholars, high emissaries, theologians are perplexed w/ what is said in the book fo babbles(bible) Did Jesus pbuh have 2 fathers? Did Jesus pbuh gallop into Gala lea on 1 or 2 donkeys. These are but a mere fraction of ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS FOUND IN THE BIBLE.
Who wrote the bible? Jewish authors, UNKNOWN & INSPIRED TO ENSLAVE THE GENTILES: AND THEY SUCCEEDED
@adamtheblessed Mo when he was dictating words to his scribe, the scribe interjected with his own words & Mo accepted these. Also which so called noble quran are u talking about- Mo's one which has 7 forms of reading? Bakr one? The one's Uthman had burnt? Or the one with stoning verse which goat ate? Or the one with original satanic verses? Or Uthman version? I prefer Hafsa copy? What about you?
Yes he did: an earthly adoptive father & a Heavenly natural father- U NINCOMPOOP!! GET A BRAIN PLS!
@christ4all2allmyall I see English is not your first language but that is okay. I will get a brain as soon as you lose yours. :) HOLY QUR'AN MAY BE PRONOUNCED OR ANNOUNCED DIFFERENTLY, BUT THE WORDS ARE THE SAME.
Whatever you were trying to say, does not exist. ALWAYS ONE HOLY QUR'AN, NEVER 2, EVER.
GO READ YOUR BOOK OF BABBLES IN GREEK THEN COME BACK TO ISLAM--WE WILL BE WAITING FOR YOU.
@adamtheblessed LIAR IF THE WORDS WERE THE SAME WHY IS THAT DIRTY DOG UTHMAN HAVING ALL OTHER LEGITIMATE QURANs BURNT- WHO TOLD THIS VILE POLITICIAN TO DO SUCH A DREADFUL ACT??
AISHA the child bride of Mo INFORMED US THE GOAT ATE SOME OF MO'S QURAN WHICH HAD STONING VERSE- THIS WAS IN ORIGINAL, SO U LIE MUSLIMS JUS LIKE ALL U MUSLIM MAD MEN.
@christ4all2allmyall And my peaceful Christian spirited friend, do tell where to you get such factual facts? I sure hope not from the same people that are preaching to you that GOD CAME ON EARTH & BLED & DIED FOR YOU?
BY ALL MEANS, MY PEACEFUL BROTHER, SHARE W/ THE WORLD WHERE YOU GET SUCH TRASH?
The bible is now going through another CHANGE--the high emissaries are now contemplating removing 'BEGOTTEN" from the bible. HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE THE BIBLE--SO MUCH FOR "GOD'S" WORDS.
You are very wrong my friend. You clearly haven't read all the bibles. They are not merely a translation of the original, they all say different things and mean different things. As for the Quran there is only one. And the translations are just translations, we as Muslims do not refer to the translations when we need our questions answered we refer to the one and only Quran. Also, any non arabic speaking Muslim must learn to read arabic so that they can read the Quran "THE TRUE QURAN" in arabic
@ 1.15 "each one goes back to the greek for the new testament".
thats the problem straight away JESUS NEVER SPOKE GREEK.
so immediately you have recognised the first error in the authenticity of the scriptures, that is it was not recorded as it was revealed.
that should be enough on its own but you only have to read the 4 gospels to know that they never wrote them, why is it written "according to" & not "by"? because the christian scholars know they were not the authors.
@TheLieDectector Do they even go back to the Greek bibles? I'd be surprised if they did. Only the Jehovah's Witnesses make this claim, as far as I know.
@adamtheblessed sir! Since u Muslims are wise & u claim Corruption.
All u have done is shown or rather attempting to show the bible we have has undergone minor changes YET YOU ISLAMIC IDIOT you haven't shown CORRUPTION.
LET ME MAKES THIS SIMPLE FOR YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS- Corruption means to change for worse...
The original manuscripts we have DON'T EMBRACE AN ISLAMIC MESSAGE thus YOU ISLAMIC IDIOT it couldn't be true in FIRST PLACE...thus bible CANT BE CORRUPTED= wasn't true in 1st place!
@christ4all2allmyall Noble QUR'AN has not had "ONE WORD, COMMA, PERIOD, OR LETTER" changed for 1400 hundred years. Your own Xian scholars, high emissaries, theologians are perplexed w/ what is said in the book fo babbles(bible) Did Jesus pbuh have 2 fathers? Did Jesus pbuh gallop into Gala lea on 1 or 2 donkeys. These are but a mere fraction of ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS FOUND IN THE BIBLE.
Who wrote the bible? Jewish authors, UNKNOWN & INSPIRED TO ENSLAVE THE GENTILES: AND THEY SUCCEEDED
@adamtheblessed U MUSLIM DUMB*SS FOR YOU TO SHOW IT WAS CORRUPTED- YOU MUST FURNISH THE TRUE BIBLE UNDERGOING CHANGE TO WORSE..........the original manuscripts condemn your Quran as false.....so by Islamic Idiocy the bible couldn't be corrupted since the bible would be corrupted in 1st place AND IDIOT you can only show this by showing the original manuscripts we have HAVE BEEN CHANGED FOR THE WORSE..............YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS.....
@adamtheblessed SO THEN AS WE HAVE BEEN STATING FOR CENTURIES......YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS...................................
SHOW US HOW OUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED??
AND STOP TALKING ABOUT CHANGE/CONTRADICTIONS...WHICH PROVE NOTHING
YOU HAVE TO SHOW REAL ONE UNDERGOING CHANGE..........if a person shows a book having contradictions that wouldn't mean book is corrupted bcos how you know the author is one of contradiction= how you know God of Bible has greater ABROGATION 'excuse' than YOUR allah?
@christ4all2allmyall What you see in the Bible today is the result of 2000 years of editing and cherry picking; and it still isn't self-consistent or coherent. I doubt that the Qur'an is any different. Religion is for people who are unable or unwilling to think for themselves.
@christ4all2allmyall because before the printing press, all copies of the bible were hand-written, which means that copying errors were undoubtedly introduced. These copies were then used to make other copies, a process which not only copied the original errors, bat also introduced new errors etc etc. It doesn't take a genius to realize this. Same thing happened with copies of the Quran. Without effective proof-reading and correction, corruption will invariably occur.
@TheLieDectector Who cares? The Quran is still a bunch of phoney, poisonous, misogynistic, xenophobic, bilious claptrap regardless of how many versions there are. Like The Bible, the only place for it in my house would be in the outside privvy.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true; by the wise as false; and by the rulers as useful - Seneca (4BC-65CE)
@adamtheblessed who wrote the quran? people in the desert? You had hundreds of versions of quran in the arabic until 100 years after mohammed the great imam burnt allowed and chose t6he one he belived to leave in the world before he died.
Versions of the Bible? Who wrote the Bible? Exodus alone has AT LEAST 4 FOUR different authors? Please do tell me this is not true--the Versions are lettered!!!
What is the Bible EXACTLY??? A compilation of books picked out the churches, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant---in their meeting around 475 AD.
When was Jesus pbuh made into a Deity? It was not until 325 years AD. In the council of Nicea. Early Christians did not believe Jesus pbuh was a God, Son of God.
does the bible have the original text written next to the translation? no? i didnt think so
thats the reason i only read the arabic quran at least we muslims know were our original book is and what written in it if you Christians wanted to read your original book you wont find it
@RealRapAndHiphp The koran is clearly NOT from God so it makes no difference. The koran is nothing more than a collection of gnostic + heretical writings + Jewish stories told 2 Jewish children during the Diaspora. If u want truth u need the Inspired Word of God the Bible. Muslims r 4ever finding things 2 complain about.
Google "origins of Biblical stories in the koran" if u want 2 c how Mohammad founded the satanic koran...NONE CAN COME 2 THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS THE SON OF GOD. Peace.
During the translation process, how can you be sure it is 100% the same as the original bible? or it is translated from a translated bible? why should the be old and new testament? the original bible is only one. this translation goin massive and without control. Am doubtful of the content. Because people now a days are reciting translated bible. for Quran there is control from the original Arabic version.
I do agree with @Quranreciter95. We muslims, do not call Qurans Translations as Quran. Its translations can be written in hundreds of languages. But for Quran, it's only one language, and it's Arabic. Since Muhammad, it has never been changed. Muslims recites Quran using Arabic words. Not with their mother tounge language. That's what happened to Bible. People recite bibles translatiion. Where is the real BIble?
quran many english translations but the same meaning for each verse , but bibles have not the same meaning , there is even an extra verses , and missing verses in bibles
So where is original Greek or Hebrew bible, so why not use them and how authentic they are, who wrote them or what are the proofs? Is that Bible is word of GOD or word of Jesus or word of the writer?
@5027196 Google "origins of Bible stories in the koran". Muslims need 2 c where Mohammad got his unholy satanic man-made book from. THIS IS THE REASON THE SO-CALLED BIBLE STORIES IN THE KORAN DO NOT ADHERE 2 BIBLE STORIES IN THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE!!! Muslims have 2 start opening their eyes 2 the truth rather than making noises...
@wwwsultanorg, The Bible is the book of books of various prophets written betweeb 1400 B.C and 95 A.D by various prophets, kings and holy servants. It is not a "set" or "fixed" book like the Quran(one book). So if a demonination in a certain part of the world decides to put these number of books in or leave a book out just for library reference which or not considered critical by theological opinion, it does not effect anything. Handling of islamic hadiths are similar
they are alot and not same Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Today's Books and Gospels' authors of the Bible are UNKNOWN. See the comments from the NIV Bible itself.
According to the NIV and KJV Bible's theologians, the gospels were written by mysterious and unknown people, in unknown places and unknown dates!
@wwwsultanorg, Now you want to red-herring, what you stated was competely false. The authors of the Bible unlike the Quran are known with signatures of the epistles and gospels and are backed by the 5,600 koine greek manuscripts. All the ancient manuscripts are dated by time-frame not specifically unless the author gives the date. So carbon method is used or for one example in the gosples when Jesus prophesized the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. we know it was written before 70 A.D.
what are you talking about brother. muslims memorize quran no matter which version of translation, the words are all same. we don't throw something out and keep something because we like it. we memorize word by word. it's gods word. before you talk about quran, you need to have an idea about that. whatever version of translation you read the meanings are always same.
Sorry the original Bible was in Aramaic not Greek or Hebrew. Please get it straight. Plus there many versions of the Bible and because of the additions and changes that were done to the Bible, the Quran came to being. Peace to all.
@adamtheblessed What? The translation of the King James Bible is Greek. Show me where the Bible is Aramaic.
If the Quran came into being to replace the Bible then why does the Quran tell you to reference the Book (Bible) if it does not cover a certain subject?
@Tripp9 Jesus pbuh, spoke in his native tongue of Aramaic. His words were translated into Hebrew then went all over the place from there. When you compare the different translations or versions, the verses don't match. Btw, the KJV was revised 5x for corrections. I did not think the word of God needed "CORRECTION" peace
@adamtheblessed They were copyist errors. In one instance a printer used "she" instead of "he". When you type do you ever misspell words? Same scenario. Again, if the Bible was translated in Aramaic then where is the "Ultimate" copy to compare what we have to?
Another problem with translations that take you away from the KJV is the copyright. In order for a book to have copyright it must be different enough from others that it are in it's category. That is why the translations are weaker.
@Tripp9 Well we can go on forever pointing fingers, I think its best that we abide to the teaching Jesus pbuh which is found in Islam as well and just move on. I pray we all stay on course to the path of the Almighty. Peace
@adamtheblessed The teaching you have of Jesus is incorrect. Islam teaches it is by works. Jesus teaches it is through Him and Him only is paradise possible.
For instance, the Peace Be Unto Him is a superstition you do for all of your prophets. If what you teach is true won't peace be with them already?
John 14:6
I appreciate your efforts at reconciliation, therefore, Peace Be Unto You. I pray you understand your good works are going to appear as rags unto our Lord come judgment.
@Tripp9 Sorry the Qur'an does not say it replaces the Bible, it says it replaces the "Injeels" which is scripture not Bible. Bible was put together by three churches, Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox around 400AD. The three decided what Gospels the Bible would include and not. And they casually lost, destroyed, or hid Gospels from the masses to avoid CONTRADICTIONS. Unfortunately that did not work well did it..i.e, the book of Jubilee was later found
@adamtheblessed Look into history again. Protestantism came around 1600. Your facts are skewed. To think that God would allow His words to be corrupted by man doesn't say a lot for God does it? He is almighty, as are His words. Try again....quite repeating slogans or Islam and look again at what God has done for us through Jesus.
Is God just? Yes. Do you have to fear Him sending you to hell? No. How? Jesus.
He then commisioned scholars, scribes and elders to translate the scriptures in to different languages to accomodate the masses from which the King James Version, ' The Holy Bible ' was derived.
Originally there were about 11 of them. In England, circa 1800 there was mainly one source of blblical information availabe to the general public. Whenever questions would arise regarding biblical prophecy the people needed to go to the church elders who in turn would refer to their ' Book of Scriptures ' for answers. These inquisitions became somewhat burdensome to the church. In an effort to alleviate the many inquries, King James wanted the people to have their own copy of the scriptures.
actually there are differents bibles, because there are verses in one Bible, and in another that verse was left out, meaning MEN corrupted it, leaving there interpretation, Not GODS. Every Quran in the world,(arabic, in its official language, how it was revealed) is the same ,letter for letter. Bible is not.
scratch that. not verses, but BOOKS. for instance the Roman Catholic Version has 7 MORE books in it than the protestant version. Quran is word 4 word the same all over the world. The translations are the meaning of the original, as told by the author. It all comes from the original source, the Arabic Quran,revealed to the final messenger/prophet Muhamed, but the Bible has books taken out of another version. i hope this clears up this lie he has portrayed for he even knows the truth, and denies.
@tunizianboi Don't forget to add that the Qur'an is the most read and memorized Book in the world. Not one letter, not one word can be changes. God promised to protect this Holy Book, Salam Alakum
@adamtheblessed Hahahah , Sorry you made me laugh. First if the quran has not changed show me where it allows stoning in the Quran.. Muhammad practiced stoning and Ibn Kathir said it used to be in the Quran... and some scholars said a goat ate that chapter of the Quran and they are lost and are only in hadith. So you are not fooling anyone.. also why is the first and second chapter of the Quran not Iqra what jibrael said to muhammad? Apperantly Uthman changed the Quran and corrupted it.
@StarStrike2002 Yes there are many if not millions of made up Hadiths that make Islam and the Qur'an look ridiculous, as such was the intent of the authors. And no goat ate any of the verses. The Holy Qur'an is complete and mathematically incorruptible. If you want to seek the Truth of Islam it is not hard to find, but if you are looking ways to discredit, you will find fake Muslims who will find writings that make no sense at all. Peace
@StarStrike2002 If you think the Qur'an is corrupted, you should read the Gospels of Mark, Mathew, and Luke. Then come back and tell me the Qur'an is corrupt. And if that is not enough read the Apocalypse of Peter. Peace
YUSUFALI: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
@adamtheblessed The Quran is the biggest corrupted and most tempered book in the face of the earth.
The first chapter is called Eqra.. but its no where to find in the Quran some scholars think its in the Pen (Al Qalam).. and Uthman temptered with the Quran burned copies and re-ordered it and named the Suras... All this was never given by Muhammad..
Even Kaliph Omar said that the Chapter of AL Rajam (Stoning) was ripped out of the Quran and not found.. but it is only in hadith. Corruption!!
@tunizianboi Sura Women 4:34 ...admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them...
Why is King Fahd different from Abdullah Yusif Ali who is different from NJ Dawood and MH Shakir? The last two are the more closely translated because they do not have "beat them (lightly)".
It is "beat them" yet to appease Western Culture it was changed to "beat them lightly"
Your good works will get you nowhere. Read the Gospel. Don't be a sheep by repeating nonsense.
Good job. Yet corruption does not happen aside the litteral sphere of the finite translation. It exsists within the the infinite expansion of the individual mind.
yeah there's different translation in the KORAN ...... but you have to learn it in arabic ... it doesn't count if you read it in english or any other different language
The english ones are for the people who want to learn about ISLAM .. if your Muslim you should start learning the Arabic language
when talked about there are many translations of Quran in "English," the bible does not have many translations; they are versions, so there is different between translation and version.
Quran is the word of God. And every translation does mention quran as in arabic
when you talked about quran. Quran is only one in the Arabic langauge. It''s not many versions; it's only one in arabic, and in evrey translation you'll see the translator of it.
Believing in a higher being is the belief in seperation from all that exists. Hierarchies are based on seperation. The beings that created these hierarchies are the same ones that control this world today.
I believe you're wrong, and as a Christian I have to say that there is and has been corruptions within the bible!
And as a Christian, this should only strengthen you're faith. I think there is something I have to show you!
I know this subject concerns you, as you made a video on it. But where did you get you're argument that these are just updated and modern versions of the bible... Have you actually studied the different versions?
Well thanks for sharing this video with me... Unfortunately if you're intention was to win me over, then by the comments you see I have left there, I tell you it has not!
I am here and I confess I know not of Islam and the Quran. So I do not comment, I hear sensible people in the media say Islam is peace and I go by what they say.
But why is it so many more muslims have problems with Christianity, than vice versa?
So you lie when you say translation bc in translations you cant remove the verses, and we see this in translationsI ask why you angry with Muslim no one FORCING you, and if you propagate teaching so do positive without fearing any one, call the people to the GOD.
Mrgriegos you kafir. It doesn't matter if you kafirs have one or a million bibles because they are all fake. Except the Gospel of Barnabas because it teaches that Muhammad was the long awaited prophet. Christians can keep there bibles they are no use for Muslims. The Quran is all anyone needs. Get educated you idiot.
Quran....i recite same ayat & surah in arabic as muslims from all parts of the world in prayers. Quran have translation from Arabic Quran many languages since not everyone knows Arabic.
Does Bible have one like Quran UNCHANGED in Arabic from Prophet Muhamad ? I m not referring to the translation of Bibles.
Muslims do not need any body to tell them about your "Christianity" or about your religion of worshiping Jesus as a God. They just get curious and read the Bible and get shocked by the atrocities, pornography, lies committed against God and his prophets. They don't need anyone to tell them about how corrupted the "Holy" Bible is. That's how simple it is. Whereas Christians keep saying "God bless you" Jesus loves you" repeating the same words like parrots... very sad.
If that is what you believe about Christianity I feel sorry for you.
You are affraid to hear the truth, and Islam is the foundations of lies that you rely on.
Learn the truth. For example, the bible is not corrupt. Translation or translator errors do not mean the bible is corrupt. That is like saying the translations of the Quran (pickthall and Yusuf ali, both being different) prove the Quran is corrupt.
No one told me about the lies, I have tons of Bibles home and I have at least 10 links to websites with hundreds of languages and I read the references and claims and found it to be true, did you read the Quran smarty?
Fascinating. Yes, thankfully, each Sura got shorter and shorter. I did find it odd that one of the suras in the Quran did not open with a praise to Allah. Anyways, I've also examined some of the interpretations on various verses in the Quran from Islamic sources, and I must say that its an interesting read, but not the truth.
As for your "research" about the Bible(s) I have to say that your conclusions obviously reflect your predetermined biased conclusions.
You disqualify the original Scriptures due to translations and different publication versions. Your problem is that you neglect to account for publication trends and business rather than focus on the originals.
You want the originals, well its time you learn Hebrew and Greek, since no English explanation or translation is good enough for you.
What is curious about the Quran (since I forgot to mention this in my other response to you about reading the Quran) is that in Sura 84 I recall an oath/swearing that is made on the moon. Dont you find it strange that pre-Islamic pagan Arab religion made such oaths? I mean, even the Crescent and Star symbol of Islam (that incidentally Muhammad never used) has come to be a dominant symbol in Islam despite its pre-Islamic pagan sources in Arabia.
You have some loose screws, let me fix you, read below:
No Muslim can worship or read a translation of any Quran in a prayer, only Arabic, and only the Arabic Quran. All Qurans are the same. if we throw all the Bibles and all Qurans in the Ocean, Muslims can re-produce the Quran again in a day. close to 100,000,000 Muslims or more memorize the Quran all over the world, and they can all recite it in one beat.
"We do have many different 'VERSIONS' in 0:34 why didn't you said it "We do have many different BIBLES that why we hate the holy Qur'an" try to slow down from 0:20 to 0:29.
the reason why you have many "VERSIONS" of bible is because it was corrupted and translated from Allah words to Human words in many centuries and the holy Qur'an still the same from the beginning of Islam until the current day with no single change in any word.
we have many different translations of Quran, that is true, but all of them are called QURAN!
in the other hand u have different versions of bible, none of them said to be the words of God. all of what you have were the followers of Jesus, Mathew, Luck, etc. they were the followers of Jesus only.
since i dont really hav the time 2 debate im just gunna end my debate by sayin that we both pray 2 God to put us on the right path (God is the Guide so he shall surely guide us to the true path whether it is Islam,Christianity or even alienism). if u want 2 count this debate (was it even a debate? LOL) as ur win then go ahead n be my guest, boast 2 everyone that u won :) i dont mind, in my point of view its not ur win cuz im really busy with college work :(
different translations not different Bibles just like the koran from the sound of it. Even if the koran was not changed that doesnt mean its from God does it.
um for ur info u do hav different bibles. shall i name some? RSV,KJV,RCV. these r only a few, secondly none of these versions r identical. we only hav one original Qur'an, many translations but no versions :) and ur point about the Qur'an not being from God how can u prove that the Bible is from God? especially since there r many versions, r u going 2 say that God gave u all these Versions? which version r u gunna follow then, which version is real? or is it that God is decieving u?
many translations not many versions, and yes the catholics believe that some texts are from God but the protestants do not. And i believe its from God because it predicts the future accurately there are no credible miracles in the koran
This guy is very funny, there is not comparision in what he is saying. ALL muslims read the Arabic Quran exept for those who dont read Arabic Or are lurning Arabic... Please could someone tell him to think before saying and thing wrong please !!!
4) There are thousands of gospels out there, even some that are just being recovered
5) The qur'an is directly the word of God to Prophet Muhammad (SAW), while the Bible is not the word of Isa (PBUH)(Jesus) , but rather the work of his companions years fter his death
6) Even if the Qur'an is translated, the original in Arabic remains intact, and even if that were to disappear, the Qur'an has been preserved in many ways as Informed by Allah (SWT), i.e, through memorization
7) I recommend you listen to Ahmed Deedat and the King James' version of the bible and the use of the word 'prick'
The difference between the Quran and the bible is that we muslims still have the real first copy of the Quran but you christains dont have the real bible. All muslims sects belive in the one Quran but different christain sects belive in different versions of the bible, such as Protestant and roman catholic. They have different bibles.
People refute the truth. Over and over and over again, the Quran is scientifically proven. Its perfect and Whole. Can you speak of that? They are not different translations, For example: O mankind! Becareful of your duty to your Lord, and O People of the Book! Careful of your allegiance to your Lord. Just different wordings. Totally incorrect what u have said.
hahahaha...his explanation of having different VERSIONs of bible is hilarious...
ONE QUESTION: if they are just different translations why Roman ctholics have 7 more books than protestants? not to talk about others orthodox/mormons or stuff!!!?
@sabeershah If u just used ur common sense u could easily go 2 Wikipedia or similar + find simple explanations. The problem with many Muslims is they don't do a simple search on the internet, but like u make comments without thinking...
The Quran does have diffrent translations BUT there is the arabic text right next to it, to verify if the translation is correct. Ur bible doesn't have the original aramaic or greek or whatever written right next to it to verify the translation.
God won't let bastards attend church. Neither can the sons or daughters of bastards "even to the tenth generation." So if u plan to attend church next Sunday be ready to prove tht ur genitals are intact & don't forget ur birth & DNA certificates for at least the last ten generations.
Don't laugh. This stuff is important to God. But I know if DNA is checked, vast majority of pagans will fail in this test & will be denied to enter in church (read 23:2 Deuteronomy)
The dogma of present on going Christianity (Paulism which is in fact Roman Paganism) has IN NO WAY any relation with the actual teaching of Jesus & original Aramaic Bible tht does not exist today. Prevailing over 72 conflicting edition of bible r crudely forged during past 2000 yrs by priests.
So present so called Christianity is ONLY & ONLY a crude collection of fictions & his believers are the most deluded people in mankind history.
Prophet David used to abduct beautiful wives of other men & used to fornicate them IN ORDER TO PURIFY THEM until they became pregnant!!
(Pls refer to: 2 Samuel 11:2-5)
(Dark bible of Pagans, Book of GOD or book of Satan?) - But these brain-blind stupidest beasts on this planet insist that this crap is book of god? NO DOUBT that Pauline Christianity is modified version of Mithraism
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More Flowers:--> David is the begotten Son of God (Psalms 2:7)
Again another example of you simply not reading the bible!!!
This is a CRIME, not only that but he conspired and killed her husband, over lust!
Remember that these are the chosen people, but also human, many times the people of Isreal suffered, because God expected and gave MORE of them, could not fulfil his will without them being/acting just... what you fail to comment on or dont know, is the harsh penalty God placed on David and his house, for his crimes!
Blue movies + Pornography & Adultery in Bible: (god's book???)
David when walking at roof, sees a woman (Bathsheba) bathing in other house and likes what he sees. She was daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittites. And David sent messengers, and took her and commits adultery (fornicated) with her "for she was purified from her uncleanness." She conceives and bears a son (of course). (Pls refer to: 2 Samuel 11:2-5)
@GodlessPagabs What you have said clearly shows that you have never read the bible and saying somthing that is purely hearsay... U are an Idiot... it shows how dumb you really are.... sorry but the truth hurts...
Aft taking in a traveling Levite, host ofers his virgin daughter & his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter but accepts the concubine & they abuse her all night. The next morning she crawls back to the doorstep & dies. The Levite puts her dead-body on an ass & takes her home. Then he chops her body up into 12 pieces & sends them to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. (Read Judges 19:22-30)
Thank you so much for this! I am a Christian and looking into this has really strengthened my faith... as well as being a really dramatic read... It's clear you have just heard of these passages and just use them to attack Christians.
But I tell you this if you actually read the book, you would see a wider context to this. As in the Levite and the concubine, this was a horrendus crime recorded in the bible, coupled with the primative times, which lead to a war.
So it is NOT condoned by the bible or a command of God, but cultrally putting the females in risk instead of the men as Lot did in sodom, was a sad sign of the times... such as slavery...
So it is NOT condoned by the bible or a command of God, but cultrally putting the females in risk instead of the men as Lot did in sodom, was a sad sign of the times... such as slavery...
Estagh-farullah!
u cant say the quran has different translations!
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME MEANING!
dando0n94 3 weeks ago
the english translation of the quran is just a teaching one!
a REAL Quran is the a Full ARABIC HOLY QURAN!
dando0n94 3 weeks ago
the quran has ifferent translations in english but the in SAME order meaning and its not corrupted
dando0n94 3 weeks ago
Really!! Obviously you’re not qualified to talk about such a serious and intense subject (your Bible), yet you have the audacity to branch to Islam, as if you are Mr. Know-It-All, I guess you among other find it easy to always change the subject as false mean of giving yourself credence and imagined believability.
Mr., try to dig a little bit deeper before you make a fool out of yourself, and mislead and misguide others in the process. They say: ignorance is a bless, you sure have plenty.
web3982 3 months ago
GOD ask me are you worshipping me or are you worshipping the book??? "DID I EVEN TELL YOU THAT ANY BOOK WAS MY WORD? OR DID THIS WORLD TELL YOU THAT?" Then HE said to me "I'AM the ALMIGHTY GOD do u really think I need a book to talk to you??? NO I LIVE IN YOU!" GOD will never leave u in the blind! Why are books being translated what GOD forgot about HIS children that speak english and forgot to write a english copy. Do u believe 4one minute GOD left ur SALVATION in another mans hands???
ul2356 5 months ago
GOD reveals to me many reason why the bible could not be HIS word! I asked GOD why did you let me study it like I did I KNOW IT SO WELL THAT I AM A WALKING BIBLE! "HE said so that you can clearly see 4urself the contridictions in 1 book misrepresenting me" GOD revealed this to me the bible says there is NO SIN GREATER THAN ANOTHER however if you work on the sabbath you were stoned to death! if working on the sabbath is a sin what is stoning someone to death?Do GOD need u to punish the wrong???
ul2356 5 months ago
I study the Bible backwards and forwards I love GOD deeply. I live to praise HIM! But last week GOD spoke something to me that opened my eyes and proved that HE will not leave you in the dark if you are seeking HIM! "HE said I'am the ALMIGHTY GOD do you believe that as BIG as I am I can be captured in such a small book?" Then he went through the bible and showed many reasons why it is impossible to be HIS word! "I'AM the same then,NOW and in forever! eye4eye then NOW turn the other cheek????
ul2356 5 months ago
expect the English Standard Version and many other modern translations REMOVED Acts 8:37. why?
Rimedzo08 6 months ago
There are remarkably 66 versions of the Bible! Is it a sign?
tacumarussell 6 months ago
@tacumarussell 66 satans number >:3
dando0n94 3 weeks ago
ENGLISH QURAN IS NOT QURAN.............ONLY THE ARABIC ONE IS THE QURAN.
tisTheEndoftime 8 months ago 2
Well you not currupted the bible only you also makes prophet jusus a God and tell now no 2 christian can agree on how it is explained
Aqsa002 9 months ago
@Aqsa002, did you actually watch the video? Jay explains it very clearly...all Bibles are translated once, from the same authoritative original-language text.
I guess that makes at least 2 Christians who "agree on how it is explained."
stronzo5785 8 months ago
While quran translation always has 114 aya
Aqsa002 9 months ago
Well my brother it is not different translation there are a complete chapters in katholic old bible removed in kjv bible i think you need to read other bibles to see
Aqsa002 9 months ago
you have different versions not translations.. search internet for Quran and see yourself if they are different... w w w. quran. com
w w w. quranexplorer. com /Quran/ Default. aspx
helindelol 9 months ago
1400 years ago
Quran:
{Surah-71-nuh (Noah) -vs-26}
And nuh (Noah) said: my lord! Leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers:
27-for surely if thou leave them they will lead astray thy servants, and will not beget any but immoral, ungrateful (children);
28-my lord! Forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction!
quranresponse 10 months ago 2
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John-ch-20-vs-17
I am ascending to my father and your father and to my god and your god.
quranresponse 10 months ago
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Only (john-ch-3-vs-16)
“For god loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17- for god sent forth his son into the world ,not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.
Mark :no
Luke: no
Matthew: no
quranresponse 11 months ago
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“For god loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17- for god sent forth his son into the world ,not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him.
Mark :no
Luke: no
Matthew: no
quranresponse 11 months ago
quranresponse 11 months ago
it is true that there is more than 1 kind of bible. Priests in diffrent places always changed it to keep people under control.In year 325 , after rome accepted christianity as a religion, they decided to choose 4 bibles from like 300 of them.So they gathered at the place , which is today's Iznik at anotolia, and tried to choose the best ones for their goals.The rest was banned , including The Gospel of Barnabas.
kroland000 11 months ago
@kroland000 Rubbish. The Gospel of Barnabas is a medieval forgery written by a monk who converted to Islam. In it it places Nazareth by the sea, it is inland and that Pontius Pilate came to the Holy Land when Jesus was a baby. That is not true. There was only one Bible and still only one Bible.
irishxxkelt 11 months ago
If you read and old Koran that was printed in d 11th century & a new Koran that was printed in d 19th century, r not the same. D Koran that is printed in the 19th century their are lot of missing verses. 1of them s, There is no compulsion in religion Q 2:256 & if u Google Abrogated verses u could see all d verses that was taken out less than 25,000. Our New Test was written in 3 languages, Aramaic called Pishetta, Keone Greek & Latin "Vulgate". If you put them side by side they are the same.
gooldie888 11 months ago
hey man, did u even graduate form highschool,, LOL
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
it dosen't mater how many video u gonna make, ur always gonna be wrong... lol
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
do u alway look nervous when u talk..? lol
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
@GetAnswersNow Do you ever stfu?
EID1994ALBASSA 10 months ago
do u laugh, every time u get scare...?
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
brother, go learn Arabic...
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
ur an idiot... lol
GetAnswersNow 1 year ago
christ4all2allmyall Noble QUR'AN has not had "ONE WORD, COMMA, PERIOD, OR LETTER" changed for 1400 hundred years. Your own Xian scholars, high emissaries, theologians are perplexed w/ what is said in the book fo babbles(bible) Did Jesus pbuh have 2 fathers? Did Jesus pbuh gallop into Gala lea on 1 or 2 donkeys. These are but a mere fraction of ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS FOUND IN THE BIBLE.
Who wrote the bible? Jewish authors, UNKNOWN & INSPIRED TO ENSLAVE THE GENTILES: AND THEY SUCCEEDED
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed Mo when he was dictating words to his scribe, the scribe interjected with his own words & Mo accepted these. Also which so called noble quran are u talking about- Mo's one which has 7 forms of reading? Bakr one? The one's Uthman had burnt? Or the one with stoning verse which goat ate? Or the one with original satanic verses? Or Uthman version? I prefer Hafsa copy? What about you?
Yes he did: an earthly adoptive father & a Heavenly natural father- U NINCOMPOOP!! GET A BRAIN PLS!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall I see English is not your first language but that is okay. I will get a brain as soon as you lose yours. :) HOLY QUR'AN MAY BE PRONOUNCED OR ANNOUNCED DIFFERENTLY, BUT THE WORDS ARE THE SAME.
Whatever you were trying to say, does not exist. ALWAYS ONE HOLY QUR'AN, NEVER 2, EVER.
GO READ YOUR BOOK OF BABBLES IN GREEK THEN COME BACK TO ISLAM--WE WILL BE WAITING FOR YOU.
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed LIAR IF THE WORDS WERE THE SAME WHY IS THAT DIRTY DOG UTHMAN HAVING ALL OTHER LEGITIMATE QURANs BURNT- WHO TOLD THIS VILE POLITICIAN TO DO SUCH A DREADFUL ACT??
AISHA the child bride of Mo INFORMED US THE GOAT ATE SOME OF MO'S QURAN WHICH HAD STONING VERSE- THIS WAS IN ORIGINAL, SO U LIE MUSLIMS JUS LIKE ALL U MUSLIM MAD MEN.
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall And my peaceful Christian spirited friend, do tell where to you get such factual facts? I sure hope not from the same people that are preaching to you that GOD CAME ON EARTH & BLED & DIED FOR YOU?
BY ALL MEANS, MY PEACEFUL BROTHER, SHARE W/ THE WORLD WHERE YOU GET SUCH TRASH?
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
The bible is now going through another CHANGE--the high emissaries are now contemplating removing 'BEGOTTEN" from the bible. HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE THE BIBLE--SO MUCH FOR "GOD'S" WORDS.
LMAO ROTF
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
You are very wrong my friend. You clearly haven't read all the bibles. They are not merely a translation of the original, they all say different things and mean different things. As for the Quran there is only one. And the translations are just translations, we as Muslims do not refer to the translations when we need our questions answered we refer to the one and only Quran. Also, any non arabic speaking Muslim must learn to read arabic so that they can read the Quran "THE TRUE QURAN" in arabic
musaaddi 1 year ago
There are different canons as well dingus. This isn't just translation, it's canon.
What canon you read will vary the books in the anthology.
imperator332 1 year ago
This guy is stupid , lack of knowledge and doesn't know what he is talking about. The same goes to the people backing him. Admit it
kippsmy 1 year ago
@ 1.15 "each one goes back to the greek for the new testament".
thats the problem straight away JESUS NEVER SPOKE GREEK.
so immediately you have recognised the first error in the authenticity of the scriptures, that is it was not recorded as it was revealed.
that should be enough on its own but you only have to read the 4 gospels to know that they never wrote them, why is it written "according to" & not "by"? because the christian scholars know they were not the authors.
TheLieDectector 1 year ago
@TheLieDectector Do they even go back to the Greek bibles? I'd be surprised if they did. Only the Jehovah's Witnesses make this claim, as far as I know.
Yep, Jesus spoke Aramaic.
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
Who wrote the Bible? Unknown & Inspired Jewish authors--you ever wonder why they call it the "the Greatest story ever told"???
Christians have been duped!!!
Wake up!!!
Time to EMBRACE the TRUTH--ISLAM--GOD'S FINAL RELIGION OF PEACE LOVE LIFE & WORSHIP!!!
One GOD!!!
No partners!!!
No mothers!!!
Just GOD!!!
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed sir! Since u Muslims are wise & u claim Corruption.
All u have done is shown or rather attempting to show the bible we have has undergone minor changes YET YOU ISLAMIC IDIOT you haven't shown CORRUPTION.
LET ME MAKES THIS SIMPLE FOR YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS- Corruption means to change for worse...
The original manuscripts we have DON'T EMBRACE AN ISLAMIC MESSAGE thus YOU ISLAMIC IDIOT it couldn't be true in FIRST PLACE...thus bible CANT BE CORRUPTED= wasn't true in 1st place!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall Noble QUR'AN has not had "ONE WORD, COMMA, PERIOD, OR LETTER" changed for 1400 hundred years. Your own Xian scholars, high emissaries, theologians are perplexed w/ what is said in the book fo babbles(bible) Did Jesus pbuh have 2 fathers? Did Jesus pbuh gallop into Gala lea on 1 or 2 donkeys. These are but a mere fraction of ALL THE CONTRADICTIONS FOUND IN THE BIBLE.
Who wrote the bible? Jewish authors, UNKNOWN & INSPIRED TO ENSLAVE THE GENTILES: AND THEY SUCCEEDED
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed U MUSLIM DUMB*SS FOR YOU TO SHOW IT WAS CORRUPTED- YOU MUST FURNISH THE TRUE BIBLE UNDERGOING CHANGE TO WORSE..........the original manuscripts condemn your Quran as false.....so by Islamic Idiocy the bible couldn't be corrupted since the bible would be corrupted in 1st place AND IDIOT you can only show this by showing the original manuscripts we have HAVE BEEN CHANGED FOR THE WORSE..............YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS.....
WAKE UP!
U FOLLOW A FALSE PROPHET!
AND FALSE god!
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed SO THEN AS WE HAVE BEEN STATING FOR CENTURIES......YOU ISLAMIC IDIOTS...................................
SHOW US HOW OUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED??
AND STOP TALKING ABOUT CHANGE/CONTRADICTIONS...WHICH PROVE NOTHING
YOU HAVE TO SHOW REAL ONE UNDERGOING CHANGE..........if a person shows a book having contradictions that wouldn't mean book is corrupted bcos how you know the author is one of contradiction= how you know God of Bible has greater ABROGATION 'excuse' than YOUR allah?
christ4all2allmyall 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall What you see in the Bible today is the result of 2000 years of editing and cherry picking; and it still isn't self-consistent or coherent. I doubt that the Qur'an is any different. Religion is for people who are unable or unwilling to think for themselves.
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
@christ4all2allmyall because before the printing press, all copies of the bible were hand-written, which means that copying errors were undoubtedly introduced. These copies were then used to make other copies, a process which not only copied the original errors, bat also introduced new errors etc etc. It doesn't take a genius to realize this. Same thing happened with copies of the Quran. Without effective proof-reading and correction, corruption will invariably occur.
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
@DaMuttzNutz sorry, INEVITABLY occur
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
@DaMuttzNutz
If your staement is correct, then show me a different version of the Qu'ran
TheLieDectector 1 year ago
@TheLieDectector Who cares? The Quran is still a bunch of phoney, poisonous, misogynistic, xenophobic, bilious claptrap regardless of how many versions there are. Like The Bible, the only place for it in my house would be in the outside privvy.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true; by the wise as false; and by the rulers as useful - Seneca (4BC-65CE)
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed who wrote the quran? people in the desert? You had hundreds of versions of quran in the arabic until 100 years after mohammed the great imam burnt allowed and chose t6he one he belived to leave in the world before he died.
jdi0093113 1 year ago
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@jdi0093113 who wrote the Bible? People in the desert?
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
The Bible has gone through stages of EVOLUTION and may be going through another one now!!!
And it is not Muslims that are discrediting the Bible, it is your Theologians, and former Christian members that are coming out the TRUTH!!!
Please RESEARCH your biblical history b4 you jump to the conclusion that you have only ONE Bible!!!
Good luck convincing the EDUCATED world there is only ONE Bible!!
PEACE OUT!!!
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
Versions of the Bible? Who wrote the Bible? Exodus alone has AT LEAST 4 FOUR different authors? Please do tell me this is not true--the Versions are lettered!!!
What is the Bible EXACTLY??? A compilation of books picked out the churches, Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant---in their meeting around 475 AD.
When was Jesus pbuh made into a Deity? It was not until 325 years AD. In the council of Nicea. Early Christians did not believe Jesus pbuh was a God, Son of God.
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed His name wasn't even Jesus, which is the name the Greeks gave him, meaning 'saviour'. His real name was Joshua Bar Joseph
DaMuttzNutz 1 year ago
Very good point!!! Hopefully more Muslims will get their facts right in future + God Bless u in all that u do...
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
does the bible have the original text written next to the translation? no? i didnt think so
thats the reason i only read the arabic quran at least we muslims know were our original book is and what written in it if you Christians wanted to read your original book you wont find it
RealRapAndHiphp 1 year ago
@RealRapAndHiphp The koran is clearly NOT from God so it makes no difference. The koran is nothing more than a collection of gnostic + heretical writings + Jewish stories told 2 Jewish children during the Diaspora. If u want truth u need the Inspired Word of God the Bible. Muslims r 4ever finding things 2 complain about.
Google "origins of Biblical stories in the koran" if u want 2 c how Mohammad founded the satanic koran...NONE CAN COME 2 THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS THE SON OF GOD. Peace.
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
During the translation process, how can you be sure it is 100% the same as the original bible? or it is translated from a translated bible? why should the be old and new testament? the original bible is only one. this translation goin massive and without control. Am doubtful of the content. Because people now a days are reciting translated bible. for Quran there is control from the original Arabic version.
Naqib4Life 1 year ago
I do agree with @Quranreciter95. We muslims, do not call Qurans Translations as Quran. Its translations can be written in hundreds of languages. But for Quran, it's only one language, and it's Arabic. Since Muhammad, it has never been changed. Muslims recites Quran using Arabic words. Not with their mother tounge language. That's what happened to Bible. People recite bibles translatiion. Where is the real BIble?
Naqib4Life 1 year ago
quran many english translations but the same meaning for each verse , but bibles have not the same meaning , there is even an extra verses , and missing verses in bibles
brahim121985 1 year ago
complete bull crap.. KING HENRY the 8TH .. released a revised bible just so he was able to divorce hassle free..
Osamabindansker 1 year ago
So where is original Greek or Hebrew bible, so why not use them and how authentic they are, who wrote them or what are the proofs? Is that Bible is word of GOD or word of Jesus or word of the writer?
5027196 1 year ago
@5027196 Google "origins of Bible stories in the koran". Muslims need 2 c where Mohammad got his unholy satanic man-made book from. THIS IS THE REASON THE SO-CALLED BIBLE STORIES IN THE KORAN DO NOT ADHERE 2 BIBLE STORIES IN THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE!!! Muslims have 2 start opening their eyes 2 the truth rather than making noises...
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
@5027196 LET'S TEST THE koran WITH THE SAME CRITERIA: Google "origins of Bible stories in the koran".
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
they are alot and not same
Protestant Bible Books = 66 Books
Catholic Bible Books = 73 Books
Coptic Bible Books = 75 Books
Syraic Bible Books = 61 Books
Greek Orthodox Books = 78 Books
Ethiopic Bible Books = 81 Books
wwwsultanorg 1 year ago
@wwwsultanorg, The Bible is the book of books of various prophets written betweeb 1400 B.C and 95 A.D by various prophets, kings and holy servants. It is not a "set" or "fixed" book like the Quran(one book). So if a demonination in a certain part of the world decides to put these number of books in or leave a book out just for library reference which or not considered critical by theological opinion, it does not effect anything. Handling of islamic hadiths are similar
QuantumUni 1 year ago
@QuantumUni i said any bible is God s words?
they are alot and not same Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Today's Books and Gospels' authors of the Bible are UNKNOWN. See the comments from the NIV Bible itself.
According to the NIV and KJV Bible's theologians, the gospels were written by mysterious and unknown people, in unknown places and unknown dates!
wwwsultanorg 1 year ago
@wwwsultanorg, Now you want to red-herring, what you stated was competely false. The authors of the Bible unlike the Quran are known with signatures of the epistles and gospels and are backed by the 5,600 koine greek manuscripts. All the ancient manuscripts are dated by time-frame not specifically unless the author gives the date. So carbon method is used or for one example in the gosples when Jesus prophesized the destruction of the temple in 70 A.D. we know it was written before 70 A.D.
QuantumUni 1 year ago
@QuantumUni Well said + God Bless U...
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
Catholic Bible.
bnbalenda 1 year ago
If that then why do the bible say diffrent things can you plzz explain that for me.
safana101 1 year ago
what are you talking about brother. muslims memorize quran no matter which version of translation, the words are all same. we don't throw something out and keep something because we like it. we memorize word by word. it's gods word. before you talk about quran, you need to have an idea about that. whatever version of translation you read the meanings are always same.
mahisona 1 year ago
Sorry the original Bible was in Aramaic not Greek or Hebrew. Please get it straight. Plus there many versions of the Bible and because of the additions and changes that were done to the Bible, the Quran came to being. Peace to all.
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed What? The translation of the King James Bible is Greek. Show me where the Bible is Aramaic.
If the Quran came into being to replace the Bible then why does the Quran tell you to reference the Book (Bible) if it does not cover a certain subject?
Tripp9 1 year ago
@Tripp9 Jesus pbuh, spoke in his native tongue of Aramaic. His words were translated into Hebrew then went all over the place from there. When you compare the different translations or versions, the verses don't match. Btw, the KJV was revised 5x for corrections. I did not think the word of God needed "CORRECTION" peace
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed They were copyist errors. In one instance a printer used "she" instead of "he". When you type do you ever misspell words? Same scenario. Again, if the Bible was translated in Aramaic then where is the "Ultimate" copy to compare what we have to?
Another problem with translations that take you away from the KJV is the copyright. In order for a book to have copyright it must be different enough from others that it are in it's category. That is why the translations are weaker.
Tripp9 1 year ago
@Tripp9 Well we can go on forever pointing fingers, I think its best that we abide to the teaching Jesus pbuh which is found in Islam as well and just move on. I pray we all stay on course to the path of the Almighty. Peace
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed The teaching you have of Jesus is incorrect. Islam teaches it is by works. Jesus teaches it is through Him and Him only is paradise possible.
For instance, the Peace Be Unto Him is a superstition you do for all of your prophets. If what you teach is true won't peace be with them already?
John 14:6
I appreciate your efforts at reconciliation, therefore, Peace Be Unto You. I pray you understand your good works are going to appear as rags unto our Lord come judgment.
Tripp9 1 year ago 2
@Tripp9 I know your bible. I respect your choice and your beliefs. I hope it works out for you. Peace
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@Tripp9 Sorry the Qur'an does not say it replaces the Bible, it says it replaces the "Injeels" which is scripture not Bible. Bible was put together by three churches, Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox around 400AD. The three decided what Gospels the Bible would include and not. And they casually lost, destroyed, or hid Gospels from the masses to avoid CONTRADICTIONS. Unfortunately that did not work well did it..i.e, the book of Jubilee was later found
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed Look into history again. Protestantism came around 1600. Your facts are skewed. To think that God would allow His words to be corrupted by man doesn't say a lot for God does it? He is almighty, as are His words. Try again....quite repeating slogans or Islam and look again at what God has done for us through Jesus.
Is God just? Yes. Do you have to fear Him sending you to hell? No. How? Jesus.
Tripp9 1 year ago
This guys cool :D
schizophrenicization 1 year ago
He then commisioned scholars, scribes and elders to translate the scriptures in to different languages to accomodate the masses from which the King James Version, ' The Holy Bible ' was derived.
livebythenameofallah 1 year ago
Originally there were about 11 of them. In England, circa 1800 there was mainly one source of blblical information availabe to the general public. Whenever questions would arise regarding biblical prophecy the people needed to go to the church elders who in turn would refer to their ' Book of Scriptures ' for answers. These inquisitions became somewhat burdensome to the church. In an effort to alleviate the many inquries, King James wanted the people to have their own copy of the scriptures.
livebythenameofallah 1 year ago
actually there are differents bibles, because there are verses in one Bible, and in another that verse was left out, meaning MEN corrupted it, leaving there interpretation, Not GODS. Every Quran in the world,(arabic, in its official language, how it was revealed) is the same ,letter for letter. Bible is not.
tunizianboi 1 year ago
scratch that. not verses, but BOOKS. for instance the Roman Catholic Version has 7 MORE books in it than the protestant version. Quran is word 4 word the same all over the world. The translations are the meaning of the original, as told by the author. It all comes from the original source, the Arabic Quran,revealed to the final messenger/prophet Muhamed, but the Bible has books taken out of another version. i hope this clears up this lie he has portrayed for he even knows the truth, and denies.
tunizianboi 1 year ago
@tunizianboi Don't forget to add that the Qur'an is the most read and memorized Book in the world. Not one letter, not one word can be changes. God promised to protect this Holy Book, Salam Alakum
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed Hahahah , Sorry you made me laugh. First if the quran has not changed show me where it allows stoning in the Quran.. Muhammad practiced stoning and Ibn Kathir said it used to be in the Quran... and some scholars said a goat ate that chapter of the Quran and they are lost and are only in hadith. So you are not fooling anyone.. also why is the first and second chapter of the Quran not Iqra what jibrael said to muhammad? Apperantly Uthman changed the Quran and corrupted it.
StarStrike2002 1 year ago
@StarStrike2002 Yes there are many if not millions of made up Hadiths that make Islam and the Qur'an look ridiculous, as such was the intent of the authors. And no goat ate any of the verses. The Holy Qur'an is complete and mathematically incorruptible. If you want to seek the Truth of Islam it is not hard to find, but if you are looking ways to discredit, you will find fake Muslims who will find writings that make no sense at all. Peace
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@StarStrike2002 If you think the Qur'an is corrupted, you should read the Gospels of Mark, Mathew, and Luke. Then come back and tell me the Qur'an is corrupt. And if that is not enough read the Apocalypse of Peter. Peace
adamtheblessed 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed Yunus 010.094
YUSUFALI: If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
What Book is this verse referring too?
Tripp9 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed The Quran is the biggest corrupted and most tempered book in the face of the earth.
The first chapter is called Eqra.. but its no where to find in the Quran some scholars think its in the Pen (Al Qalam).. and Uthman temptered with the Quran burned copies and re-ordered it and named the Suras... All this was never given by Muhammad..
Even Kaliph Omar said that the Chapter of AL Rajam (Stoning) was ripped out of the Quran and not found.. but it is only in hadith. Corruption!!
StarStrike2002 1 year ago
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@StarStrike2002
they are alot and not same
Protestant Bible Books = 66 Books
Catholic Bible Books = 73 Books
Coptic Bible Books = 75 Books
Syraic Bible Books = 61 Books
Greek Orthodox Books = 78 Books
Ethiopic Bible Books = 81 Books
wwwsultanorg 1 year ago
@adamtheblessed Actually u will find that the Bible is the most read book + the most published book EVER. Plz get ur facts right!!!
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
@tunizianboi There r many versions of the koran + they r NOT the same. Some have more verses than another. U need 2 do some proper research!!!
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
@tunizianboi Sura Women 4:34 ...admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them...
Why is King Fahd different from Abdullah Yusif Ali who is different from NJ Dawood and MH Shakir? The last two are the more closely translated because they do not have "beat them (lightly)".
It is "beat them" yet to appease Western Culture it was changed to "beat them lightly"
Your good works will get you nowhere. Read the Gospel. Don't be a sheep by repeating nonsense.
Tripp9 1 year ago
Good job. Yet corruption does not happen aside the litteral sphere of the finite translation. It exsists within the the infinite expansion of the individual mind.
eno3vo7ution 1 year ago
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science220 1 year ago
yeah there's different translation in the KORAN ...... but you have to learn it in arabic ... it doesn't count if you read it in english or any other different language
The english ones are for the people who want to learn about ISLAM .. if your Muslim you should start learning the Arabic language
AlltoElohim 1 year ago
Another thing is if christians want to make the langauge of the bible easy, they can add tafseer (explainations) in the footer, can't they ?
abod7im 1 year ago
when talked about there are many translations of Quran in "English," the bible does not have many translations; they are versions, so there is different between translation and version.
Quran is the word of God. And every translation does mention quran as in arabic
abod7im 1 year ago
when you talked about quran. Quran is only one in the Arabic langauge. It''s not many versions; it's only one in arabic, and in evrey translation you'll see the translator of it.
abod7im 1 year ago
If you do have many different bible ?
If you say that English changes, Arabic changes too.
The other thing
If they want to make the bible modern, no body can change the word of god. Can anybody write as god does ?
abod7im 1 year ago
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Believing in a higher being is the belief in seperation from all that exists. Hierarchies are based on seperation. The beings that created these hierarchies are the same ones that control this world today.
apetrowsky1 2 years ago
"Are Modern Bible Translations Trustworthy? Part 1"
God bless you all!
Amarx00 2 years ago
Here is a lecture I have for you of the verifiable evidence, as presented by a true Christian.
But I will say this, the bible does not tell us to be ignorant from the truth, the opposite in fact.
Let he who hath knowledge, have wisdom!
That we must all use to prepeare and protect for the time ahead...
So do not fear the truth... that is what faith is for!
And the next time someone argues with you about the manipulation of Christianity, ask them why, why us, why Jesus? to this day!
Amarx00 2 years ago
Hi PfanderFilms,
I believe you're wrong, and as a Christian I have to say that there is and has been corruptions within the bible!
And as a Christian, this should only strengthen you're faith. I think there is something I have to show you!
I know this subject concerns you, as you made a video on it. But where did you get you're argument that these are just updated and modern versions of the bible... Have you actually studied the different versions?
Amarx00 2 years ago
@Amarx00 please see the video "is the bible corrupted"
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science220 1 year ago
Hi
Well thanks for sharing this video with me... Unfortunately if you're intention was to win me over, then by the comments you see I have left there, I tell you it has not!
I am here and I confess I know not of Islam and the Quran. So I do not comment, I hear sensible people in the media say Islam is peace and I go by what they say.
But why is it so many more muslims have problems with Christianity, than vice versa?
Is it the history?
Amarx00 1 year ago
But I feel that where I have not known about Islam, I was not qualified to talk about it.
So I am surprised to see here on yt the vein of muslim opinon that seems to think they know everything about Christianity.
And yet they know nothing.
Amarx00 1 year ago
So you lie when you say translation bc in translations you cant remove the verses, and we see this in translationsI ask why you angry with Muslim no one FORCING you, and if you propagate teaching so do positive without fearing any one, call the people to the GOD.
italiatua 2 years ago
Mrgriegos you kafir. It doesn't matter if you kafirs have one or a million bibles because they are all fake. Except the Gospel of Barnabas because it teaches that Muhammad was the long awaited prophet. Christians can keep there bibles they are no use for Muslims. The Quran is all anyone needs. Get educated you idiot.
JANISARI4ISLAM 2 years ago
Hey mister you better learn Arabic languange before you claim Quran has problem.
I have with me many Quran translation but all are consistent unlike Bible.
Where is the original Bible?
atila6745 2 years ago
Where is the original bible?
atila6745 2 years ago
Quran....i recite same ayat & surah in arabic as muslims from all parts of the world in prayers. Quran have translation from Arabic Quran many languages since not everyone knows Arabic.
Does Bible have one like Quran UNCHANGED in Arabic from Prophet Muhamad ? I m not referring to the translation of Bibles.
atila6745 2 years ago
you are talking about the translation......
the original book is the same one....where is your original???
wasemosam 2 years ago
I dont blame Muslims for believing the lies told to them about the Christian Bible.
Muslim apologists need to prevent Muslims from leaving Islam by telling them as many lies about Christianity as possible.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
Muslims do not need any body to tell them about your "Christianity" or about your religion of worshiping Jesus as a God. They just get curious and read the Bible and get shocked by the atrocities, pornography, lies committed against God and his prophets. They don't need anyone to tell them about how corrupted the "Holy" Bible is. That's how simple it is. Whereas Christians keep saying "God bless you" Jesus loves you" repeating the same words like parrots... very sad.
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
@NoShadowOfDoubt
If that is what you believe about Christianity I feel sorry for you.
You are affraid to hear the truth, and Islam is the foundations of lies that you rely on.
Learn the truth. For example, the bible is not corrupt. Translation or translator errors do not mean the bible is corrupt. That is like saying the translations of the Quran (pickthall and Yusuf ali, both being different) prove the Quran is corrupt.
Open your eyes.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
You make me sick.
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
@NoShadowOfDoubt
????
MrGriegos 2 years ago
@MrGriegos
Do I make you sick becaue I simply presented you with some information to consider? Or is it that you cant think of anything better to say?
You have yet to address the issues I presented to you.
I hope you feel better soon :)
MrGriegos 2 years ago
No one told me about the lies, I have tons of Bibles home and I have at least 10 links to websites with hundreds of languages and I read the references and claims and found it to be true, did you read the Quran smarty?
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
@NoShadowOfDoubt
Fascinating. Yes, thankfully, each Sura got shorter and shorter. I did find it odd that one of the suras in the Quran did not open with a praise to Allah. Anyways, I've also examined some of the interpretations on various verses in the Quran from Islamic sources, and I must say that its an interesting read, but not the truth.
As for your "research" about the Bible(s) I have to say that your conclusions obviously reflect your predetermined biased conclusions.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
@NoShadowOfDoubt
For example,
You disqualify the original Scriptures due to translations and different publication versions. Your problem is that you neglect to account for publication trends and business rather than focus on the originals.
You want the originals, well its time you learn Hebrew and Greek, since no English explanation or translation is good enough for you.
Until then, your "research" is far from complete.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
@MrGriegos
What is curious about the Quran (since I forgot to mention this in my other response to you about reading the Quran) is that in Sura 84 I recall an oath/swearing that is made on the moon. Dont you find it strange that pre-Islamic pagan Arab religion made such oaths? I mean, even the Crescent and Star symbol of Islam (that incidentally Muhammad never used) has come to be a dominant symbol in Islam despite its pre-Islamic pagan sources in Arabia.
I find it interesting.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
Mention the chapter and sorah please so we know what you are talking about and correct you.
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
Ok, Sura 84, but I dont remember the verse off hand because I dont have a Quran in front of me.
I think it fell between verses 16 and 18????
I just remember the oath given onto the moon.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
Remind me, what was your problem with this verse? God is swearing by the mean (one of his great creations)? so ?
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
No originals were in Greek, Jesus spoke in Aramaic Hebrew, and was sent to the Jews only, he didn't speak Greek in his teachings.
Very simple
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
@NoshadowofDoubt
Yes, Aramaic was spoken. Greek was used throughout the Jewish diaspora (used the Septuagint)
For example, John's Gospel shows signs of being first written in Greek, from Aramaic speakers, but not from Aramaic text to Greek text.
Your Islamic propagandists promote the Aramaic texts but they dont exist.
MrGriegos 2 years ago
all Muslims worship in THE ORIGINAL ARABIC QURAN, they don't worship using the translations. But you will be a Muslim, I'm very sure of it.
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uor42 2 years ago
You have some loose screws, let me fix you, read below:
No Muslim can worship or read a translation of any Quran in a prayer, only Arabic, and only the Arabic Quran. All Qurans are the same. if we throw all the Bibles and all Qurans in the Ocean, Muslims can re-produce the Quran again in a day. close to 100,000,000 Muslims or more memorize the Quran all over the world, and they can all recite it in one beat.
NoShadowOfDoubt 2 years ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
"We do have many different 'VERSIONS' in 0:34 why didn't you said it "We do have many different BIBLES that why we hate the holy Qur'an" try to slow down from 0:20 to 0:29.
the reason why you have many "VERSIONS" of bible is because it was corrupted and translated from Allah words to Human words in many centuries and the holy Qur'an still the same from the beginning of Islam until the current day with no single change in any word.
Qur'an in ONE book while Bible is like 11 !!
L0rdAA 2 years ago
r u such stupid guy??
we have many different translations of Quran, that is true, but all of them are called QURAN!
in the other hand u have different versions of bible, none of them said to be the words of God. all of what you have were the followers of Jesus, Mathew, Luck, etc. they were the followers of Jesus only.
ahmed12200 2 years ago
i read old tastement its crap lol
cawoxasan 2 years ago
I am happy, that someone said what is really true.
antiman777 2 years ago
since i dont really hav the time 2 debate im just gunna end my debate by sayin that we both pray 2 God to put us on the right path (God is the Guide so he shall surely guide us to the true path whether it is Islam,Christianity or even alienism). if u want 2 count this debate (was it even a debate? LOL) as ur win then go ahead n be my guest, boast 2 everyone that u won :) i dont mind, in my point of view its not ur win cuz im really busy with college work :(
bye :)
salihm999 2 years ago
as much as i hate 2 say no 2 bibles r identical.
funny isnt it? well not 4 christians i guess :D
salihm999 2 years ago
different translations not different Bibles just like the koran from the sound of it. Even if the koran was not changed that doesnt mean its from God does it.
eddiedog123 2 years ago
um for ur info u do hav different bibles. shall i name some? RSV,KJV,RCV. these r only a few, secondly none of these versions r identical. we only hav one original Qur'an, many translations but no versions :) and ur point about the Qur'an not being from God how can u prove that the Bible is from God? especially since there r many versions, r u going 2 say that God gave u all these Versions? which version r u gunna follow then, which version is real? or is it that God is decieving u?
salihm999 2 years ago
many translations not many versions, and yes the catholics believe that some texts are from God but the protestants do not. And i believe its from God because it predicts the future accurately there are no credible miracles in the koran
eddiedog123 2 years ago
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salihm999 2 years ago
muslims think that by putting the bible down they put the Koran up. lets discuss the false prophet mohamad who did no miracles healings prophecy.
eddiedog123 2 years ago
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salihm999 2 years ago
This guy is very funny, there is not comparision in what he is saying. ALL muslims read the Arabic Quran exept for those who dont read Arabic Or are lurning Arabic... Please could someone tell him to think before saying and thing wrong please !!!
rnssaad 2 years ago
Things are always lost in translation, Isa (PBUH) spoke Aramaic, not Greek or English or Latin.
The Bible was written hundreds of years ago, think how many translations have occured with error??
muslimman114 2 years ago
Not only that
1) Different bibles with different number of gospels in each
2) Translations has changed the meaning even if unintentionally over hundreds of years
3) Different denominations decided which gospels were most fitting (i.e, the story of Prophet Daniel (PBUH), how great was his role
muslimman114 2 years ago
4) There are thousands of gospels out there, even some that are just being recovered
5) The qur'an is directly the word of God to Prophet Muhammad (SAW), while the Bible is not the word of Isa (PBUH)(Jesus) , but rather the work of his companions years fter his death
muslimman114 2 years ago
6) Even if the Qur'an is translated, the original in Arabic remains intact, and even if that were to disappear, the Qur'an has been preserved in many ways as Informed by Allah (SWT), i.e, through memorization
7) I recommend you listen to Ahmed Deedat and the King James' version of the bible and the use of the word 'prick'
and Allah knows best
muslimman114 2 years ago
The difference between the Quran and the bible is that we muslims still have the real first copy of the Quran but you christains dont have the real bible. All muslims sects belive in the one Quran but different christain sects belive in different versions of the bible, such as Protestant and roman catholic. They have different bibles.
shfrrhmn 2 years ago
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. Matthew 24:36-44 (New International Version)
If 1+1+1 = 1
Then the Son ((1) being part of the same equation) would obviously know when the day or hour would come.
walidbako 2 years ago
People refute the truth. Over and over and over again, the Quran is scientifically proven. Its perfect and Whole. Can you speak of that? They are not different translations, For example: O mankind! Becareful of your duty to your Lord, and O People of the Book! Careful of your allegiance to your Lord. Just different wordings. Totally incorrect what u have said.
InTheNameOfAllahh 2 years ago
hahahaha...his explanation of having different VERSIONs of bible is hilarious...
ONE QUESTION: if they are just different translations why Roman ctholics have 7 more books than protestants? not to talk about others orthodox/mormons or stuff!!!?
Holy Ghost inspired Catholics more?
ding!!!
sabeershah 2 years ago 2
@sabeershah If u just used ur common sense u could easily go 2 Wikipedia or similar + find simple explanations. The problem with many Muslims is they don't do a simple search on the internet, but like u make comments without thinking...
The3in1trinity 1 year ago
The Quran does have diffrent translations BUT there is the arabic text right next to it, to verify if the translation is correct. Ur bible doesn't have the original aramaic or greek or whatever written right next to it to verify the translation.
Quranreciter95 2 years ago 14
Bastards in Pagan's Bible
God won't let bastards attend church. Neither can the sons or daughters of bastards "even to the tenth generation." So if u plan to attend church next Sunday be ready to prove tht ur genitals are intact & don't forget ur birth & DNA certificates for at least the last ten generations.
Don't laugh. This stuff is important to God. But I know if DNA is checked, vast majority of pagans will fail in this test & will be denied to enter in church (read 23:2 Deuteronomy)
TruthBroadcaster 2 years ago 14
The dogma of present on going Christianity (Paulism which is in fact Roman Paganism) has IN NO WAY any relation with the actual teaching of Jesus & original Aramaic Bible tht does not exist today. Prevailing over 72 conflicting edition of bible r crudely forged during past 2000 yrs by priests.
So present so called Christianity is ONLY & ONLY a crude collection of fictions & his believers are the most deluded people in mankind history.
Most deluded people in mankind history
GodlessPagans 2 years ago 4
Pls Smell flowers frm Pagan's bible:
Prophet David used to abduct beautiful wives of other men & used to fornicate them IN ORDER TO PURIFY THEM until they became pregnant!!
(Pls refer to: 2 Samuel 11:2-5)
(Dark bible of Pagans, Book of GOD or book of Satan?) - But these brain-blind stupidest beasts on this planet insist that this crap is book of god? NO DOUBT that Pauline Christianity is modified version of Mithraism
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More Flowers:--> David is the begotten Son of God (Psalms 2:7)
GodlessPagans 2 years ago 4
@GodlessPagans
Again another example of you simply not reading the bible!!!
This is a CRIME, not only that but he conspired and killed her husband, over lust!
Remember that these are the chosen people, but also human, many times the people of Isreal suffered, because God expected and gave MORE of them, could not fulfil his will without them being/acting just... what you fail to comment on or dont know, is the harsh penalty God placed on David and his house, for his crimes!
Amarx00 1 year ago
Blue movies + Pornography & Adultery in Bible: (god's book???)
David when walking at roof, sees a woman (Bathsheba) bathing in other house and likes what he sees. She was daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittites. And David sent messengers, and took her and commits adultery (fornicated) with her "for she was purified from her uncleanness." She conceives and bears a son (of course). (Pls refer to: 2 Samuel 11:2-5)
GodlessPagans 2 years ago 5
@GodlessPagabs What you have said clearly shows that you have never read the bible and saying somthing that is purely hearsay... U are an Idiot... it shows how dumb you really are.... sorry but the truth hurts...
shcoke2 1 year ago
Horrendous SeXXXology in Bible:
Aft taking in a traveling Levite, host ofers his virgin daughter & his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter but accepts the concubine & they abuse her all night. The next morning she crawls back to the doorstep & dies. The Levite puts her dead-body on an ass & takes her home. Then he chops her body up into 12 pieces & sends them to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. (Read Judges 19:22-30)
GodlessPagans 2 years ago 5
@GodlessPagans
Thank you so much for this! I am a Christian and looking into this has really strengthened my faith... as well as being a really dramatic read... It's clear you have just heard of these passages and just use them to attack Christians.
But I tell you this if you actually read the book, you would see a wider context to this. As in the Levite and the concubine, this was a horrendus crime recorded in the bible, coupled with the primative times, which lead to a war.
Amarx00 1 year ago
@GodlessPagans
So it is NOT condoned by the bible or a command of God, but cultrally putting the females in risk instead of the men as Lot did in sodom, was a sad sign of the times... such as slavery...
Amarx00 1 year ago
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@GodlessPagans
So it is NOT condoned by the bible or a command of God, but cultrally putting the females in risk instead of the men as Lot did in sodom, was a sad sign of the times... such as slavery...
Amarx00 1 year ago