To think that this all could have been avoided had the airlines actually gave a shit about the saftey of their aircraft & the passengers for the FUCKING SAKE OF SAVING MONEY THESE PEOPLE WERE ALL KILLED SACRIFICED FOR THE SAKE OF A FEW FUCKING DOLLARS IT MAKE ME SICK... I'm sorry about the language but it pisses me off to no end!
From what I understand when they hit the water they were upside down what a horrible horrible way for everyone on board to die I commend the pilots for their heroic efforts to do what they could even flying the aircraft upside down to try to save the plane.. ultimately they could not how tragic ... thepilots tried right till the very end to save the plane... what amazing men... God look after their souls...
@BluezCluezJERKerz Mechanical failure. Rear stabilizer jack screw and full stop failure. No pitch control! Stabilizer went past full stop. The result was a maximum dive!
these poor people....God bless the pilots for all of their efforts, I hope that somewhere they were not looked at in vain. These pilots were professional to the end. "The plane is inverted, sir" so sad.
It's shpooky to listen to these voices talking and knowing that at the same time the flight are in a vertical dive, and the contact is lost. And then just hear.. -"Eh He a.. He has hit the water. He is down..." -"Ok.."
I cannot help but be somewhat angry at the ATC controller in the initial part of this audio. The pilot had spend precious time to tell him *three times* that he was in a dive before the controller got it.
In the Mayday episode on this crash, which is extremely realistic and sad, does not put the ATC controller in a very good light. He seems a little detached from the situation, just like the maintenance team at AA.
OK, I'll certainly agree with that. Having been an air traffic controller over 20 years ago - and having to monitor a small plane's communication as he went down on the Oregon coast (and survived, fortunately), there has to be some professional emotional detachment in order to do your job. Panic helps nobody, not the ATC, the AA pilot, or the observing pilots. But that three times is not detachment, I think; it sounds more like unawareness of the situation, at least at first.
SEA-DIS two sixty one dispatch... uh current San Francisco weather
one eight zero at six, nine miles, few at fifteen hundred broken twenty eight hundred overcast thirty four hundred... uh if uh you want to land at L A of course for safety reasons we
will do that uh wu we'll uh tell you though that if we land in L A uh we'll be looking at probably an hour to an hour and a
Yeah, I hope the AA dispatcher was choked and drop-kicked from here to L.A. I know that Boeing and Alaska tried to frame the mechanic for it, but he had already told his supervisor about the wear and was told to write it off. In addition, the company wasn't using the recommended lube for the jackscrew (which may or may not have contributed).
Flying inverted nose down from 15000 ft is an awful way to go.
I love Mayday!, and have all 5 season's . The most chilling to me is this accident, the ASA with the prop pointing upward crashing into a field "I love you amy" the Southern airways "We're down to nothing" highway landing, and
American crashing in Little Rock " I hate droning around visual at night in weather without, having some clue where I am.
There all worth a viewing and a little research, you learn a lot.
The terrible part is, they hit the water in an inverted-dive, upside-down.
Sorry for your friend's loss. I too lost a friend (and her fiance) on that flight. Just days before, they were having the time of their lives at a resort, comparing tans.
I lived out at Silver Strand beach when this happened which was right where the plane went down. What a terrible day that was.
Of all the things I remember that day, one thing stands out...
There was this helicopter that must have been the central communications base for the whole operation that would just hover about 1000 feet for hours on end. When their fuel was low, another one would take its place. This went on around the clock for close to two days.
This was very difficult to listen to. I worked for Horizon Air/Alaska Airlines for 10 yrs and although I did not know the crew real well, I knew them. I am amazed at the calmness of the other air crews and the ATC.
My dad is a 26 year pilot for alaska airlines and he knew Ted fairly well he had lunch with him a few days befor the crash. I agree it is amazing how calm they are. "He hit the water.... hes down" ATC-"okay"
I was in Ventura on that horrible day, and we immediately drove over to the beach, out near Hueneme and Pt. Mugu. Almost immediately, things started to wash ashore which I choose to keep to myself. But, let's just say, it was bad. RIP. Very bad and tragic situation over there, and what those passengers experienced for those last 10 minutes or so, is just unspeakable.
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mrceebees14 4 months ago
@Gundog10mm Who cares, if you add positive G's x mass x rate of fall the force total is in the millions of pounds of force.
It turned that plane into confetti.
mrceebees14 4 months ago
To think that this all could have been avoided had the airlines actually gave a shit about the saftey of their aircraft & the passengers for the FUCKING SAKE OF SAVING MONEY THESE PEOPLE WERE ALL KILLED SACRIFICED FOR THE SAKE OF A FEW FUCKING DOLLARS IT MAKE ME SICK... I'm sorry about the language but it pisses me off to no end!
ogrebattle22763 7 months ago
From what I understand when they hit the water they were upside down what a horrible horrible way for everyone on board to die I commend the pilots for their heroic efforts to do what they could even flying the aircraft upside down to try to save the plane.. ultimately they could not how tragic ... thepilots tried right till the very end to save the plane... what amazing men... God look after their souls...
ogrebattle22763 7 months ago
An under-greased jackscrew brought this plane into an inverted nose-dive, hitting the water at over 500 miles an hour, that's scary.
Blackshayde 1 year ago
RIP
alaskabushpilot 1 year ago
wait, how is the pilot able to talk that long during'nose dive', i thought the plane was hiijacked?
BluezCluezJERKerz 1 year ago
@BluezCluezJERKerz Mechanical failure. Rear stabilizer jack screw and full stop failure. No pitch control! Stabilizer went past full stop. The result was a maximum dive!
Puff29646 1 year ago
@BluezCluezJERKerz
Alaska 261 was not hijacked! You have your news-making flights mixed up.
They had a malfunction, lost control, and crashed into the water.
PS: My friend and her fiance perished that day.
R.I.P: Nina Voronoff & Larry Baldridge!
McRat1968 1 year ago
the professionalism of the pilots is awe inspiring..
MrMooseful 1 year ago
I find it bizarre this video/audio is listed as entertainment.
sevenlemon 1 year ago
@sevenlemon well, scanning is a hobby... ironic in this case
Puls4rt 1 year ago
wow R.I.P
dimka171 1 year ago
these poor people....God bless the pilots for all of their efforts, I hope that somewhere they were not looked at in vain. These pilots were professional to the end. "The plane is inverted, sir" so sad.
ScrdlyGreg 2 years ago
Enumclaw loves and misses you Racheal , megan, and ryan.
kaylaRenees 2 years ago
It's shpooky to listen to these voices talking and knowing that at the same time the flight are in a vertical dive, and the contact is lost. And then just hear.. -"Eh He a.. He has hit the water. He is down..." -"Ok.."
nils82 3 years ago
Don't be mad at the ATC controller, he can't do anything about it.
drumister5 3 years ago
I cannot help but be somewhat angry at the ATC controller in the initial part of this audio. The pilot had spend precious time to tell him *three times* that he was in a dive before the controller got it.
rakshasa7 3 years ago 4
In the Mayday episode on this crash, which is extremely realistic and sad, does not put the ATC controller in a very good light. He seems a little detached from the situation, just like the maintenance team at AA.
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
OK, I'll certainly agree with that. Having been an air traffic controller over 20 years ago - and having to monitor a small plane's communication as he went down on the Oregon coast (and survived, fortunately), there has to be some professional emotional detachment in order to do your job. Panic helps nobody, not the ATC, the AA pilot, or the observing pilots. But that three times is not detachment, I think; it sounds more like unawareness of the situation, at least at first.
rakshasa7 2 years ago 7
SEA-DIS two sixty one dispatch... uh current San Francisco weather
one eight zero at six, nine miles, few at fifteen hundred broken twenty eight hundred overcast thirty four hundred... uh if uh you want to land at L A of course for safety reasons we
will do that uh wu we'll uh tell you though that if we land in L A uh we'll be looking at probably an hour to an hour and a
half we have a major flow program going
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
RDO-1I really didn't want to hear about the flow being the reason
you're calling us cause I'm concerned about overflying suitable
airports.
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
CAM-1 ---just drives me nuts. not that I wanna go on about it
you know I it just blows me away they think we're gonna
land, they're gonna fix it, now they're worried about the flow,
I'm sorry this airplane's idn't gonna go anywhere for a
while. so you know.
1555:16
CAM-3 so they're trying to put the pressure on you---
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
So Seattle dispatch is the airline dispatch? I stand corrected, it was the airline that was detached from the situation at hand.
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
I stand corrected it was dispatch.
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
Yeah, I hope the AA dispatcher was choked and drop-kicked from here to L.A. I know that Boeing and Alaska tried to frame the mechanic for it, but he had already told his supervisor about the wear and was told to write it off. In addition, the company wasn't using the recommended lube for the jackscrew (which may or may not have contributed).
rakshasa7 2 years ago
Flying inverted nose down from 15000 ft is an awful way to go.
I love Mayday!, and have all 5 season's . The most chilling to me is this accident, the ASA with the prop pointing upward crashing into a field "I love you amy" the Southern airways "We're down to nothing" highway landing, and
American crashing in Little Rock " I hate droning around visual at night in weather without, having some clue where I am.
There all worth a viewing and a little research, you learn a lot.
gregoryy2k 2 years ago
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lovelane4 2 years ago
RIP
carlocarlo2008 3 years ago
omg...i just hope that the impact made it very quick for those poor people:(
I remember seeing the news report on this.
surferyo 3 years ago
I am certain from experience that they all died instantly. A good friend of mine lost her best friend that day. RIP.
bobcatcubs 3 years ago
The terrible part is, they hit the water in an inverted-dive, upside-down.
Sorry for your friend's loss. I too lost a friend (and her fiance) on that flight. Just days before, they were having the time of their lives at a resort, comparing tans.
R.I.P Nina Voronoff & Larry Baldridge.
McRat1968 3 years ago
Sickening :-(
keiana77 3 years ago 2
I lived out at Silver Strand beach when this happened which was right where the plane went down. What a terrible day that was.
Of all the things I remember that day, one thing stands out...
There was this helicopter that must have been the central communications base for the whole operation that would just hover about 1000 feet for hours on end. When their fuel was low, another one would take its place. This went on around the clock for close to two days.
Rojo0416 3 years ago
This was very difficult to listen to. I worked for Horizon Air/Alaska Airlines for 10 yrs and although I did not know the crew real well, I knew them. I am amazed at the calmness of the other air crews and the ATC.
HOOSIERLOVER 3 years ago
My dad is a 26 year pilot for alaska airlines and he knew Ted fairly well he had lunch with him a few days befor the crash. I agree it is amazing how calm they are. "He hit the water.... hes down" ATC-"okay"
jwall96 3 years ago
I was in Ventura on that horrible day, and we immediately drove over to the beach, out near Hueneme and Pt. Mugu. Almost immediately, things started to wash ashore which I choose to keep to myself. But, let's just say, it was bad. RIP. Very bad and tragic situation over there, and what those passengers experienced for those last 10 minutes or so, is just unspeakable.
niko7sky 3 years ago
so... youre saying shit washed 20 miles ashore ,immediately?
shmouts 3 years ago
RIP
ffatali 3 years ago
Did you use that Yaesu to listen to this audio?
KE5HOB 3 years ago