Unfortunately I think it's that because there is no profit in changing, there is no change. Government won't change anything as the corporations are in charge of them. Change will only come from us, the citizens.
yeah like a company dumping toxic wastes in the river, but plant a few trees in public and shaking hands w/local politicians in front of the cameras to look eco friendly....company's lying for profit..what a shock, who would've thought it? lol
I agree with you. In the US it is the same with carbon credits. You don't use less energy, you just buy carbon credits so you can use as much as you want. Al Gore has one house that uses 20 times the electricity as the average consumer, but he buys carbon credits so its ok. Thing is, he buys those credits from his OWN COMPANY.
CARBON CREDITS ARE BULLLLLLLSHITTTTTTT!!!! its literally a tax on living! you breath oxygen and exhale carbon, the plant breathes carbon and exhales oxygen...
you know what else is bullshit: global warming... thats BULLSHIT!
I've practiced organic growing for 16 yrs but don't have certification - cuz of cost and big bro oversite. I always posted sign that said, Although not Certified, I still practice organic growing methods. Last year someone turned me in - mild hand slap and now I post a sign that tells all the product I do use in the greenhouse - If you are organic from the heart, you pray that all others are, if from the purse, you turn others in. Eco is a fad to make money for too many.
Lastly, consumers will wake up over time to those who are genuine and those who are not. Over time, these tokenistic efforts may well turn into something more substantial, and we should encourage even the smallest of effort to ensure that that is the case. Thanks again.
... Fourthly, small firms in particular appear to be unsure of how they can contribute, and so getting involved with a well known cause makes them appear and feel better. I liken this to households doing small things that taken alone are not contributing much but in the aggregate make a real difference...
Although i agree with much that you say, there are a few points that I think need addressing. Firstly, even though many 'green' projects taken up by corporations might be tokenistic in some sense; if the are improving some condition they should be valued. This holds even when internal practices remain the same. Secondly, internal changes are not as visible as external projects. Thirdly, big changes internally can not be made due to tech constraints...
Yeah, this sorter thing is kinda similar about the milk company.
I saw a video or something and i think its in australia and it was a news about the farmers wanted the consumers to know about the choice and whats in the milk.
Cause people just think its ordinary fresh milk where sum brands arent. since they add chemcials in it.
Only certian ones are full creamed but their are sum companies just hide info about that from consumers of whats in the milk.
I can't stand the way that big companies lie and take take take and the rich get richer and all that. I'm so fed up with "appearances". But I don't think that the world is going to change until ppl start takin care of their own. Family, home and community. PPL get all worked up over global issues (which are horrendous) but it really has to start in the home. Once all the homes and communities are recycling and reducing and working together and caring THEN we try to take care of the big stuff.
Those bags are designed to make rich bored housewives feel good about themselves and give them something to hold over the other minivan soccer moms. Those bags are made by slave kids in china and india. Children are being beaten and starved so you can use a bag and be posh and "eco-friendly" 10 years from now those bags are going to be in a landfill. The word eco has been kidnapped and is used to sell useless crap to a world hungry to feel good about themselves.
The good thing is that at least we have them noticing. Now, our part is to insist on it; and before we make our purchases. As individuals, we need to ascertain that any products we do buy ARE eco-friendly, and not merely an ad hook. If we insist on the genuine and nothing else will do, then it shouldn't be too long before the big corporations take notice. This, may be the tipping point.
Is it not similar to the raping of the planet & its inhabitants by "big" countries that go to war against their "enemies" in the name of "democracy" pretending to help the world & more specifically the "little people" in those countries..all the while h a hidden agenda that really involves THEM making money, maintaining power It is neither earth nor people friendly Corps & govts are run by sociopaths that care nothing about mankind or the earth...just their own pockets & power scarey as heck
In my opinion, corporations will never be green no matter what they do. They correct one or two things and screw 20 others up. Individuals, however can choose to live green and can be 100% more successful than a corporation. But wow, i agree with you about every one selling "green" products .....kind of reminds me of "clean coal".....haha even coals gone green. Just another load of b.s. the corparate, media and govt. liars are telling us.
The example of a half-assed, hipocritical attempt to look good to the public without actually trying to fix the problem at the source is McDonald's and the Ronald McDonald House...
A big company that, for the sake of image, plants a few trees instead of cleaning up the way they manufacture their product, seems like an arsonist spitting on a fire, that he started, so he can say that he helped put it out. The only way to discourage this behavior is for people to be aware and buy those products accordingly. Business can only be counted on to think about the money. At this point an educated consumer is their worst nightmare. Caveat emptor!
Every industry spends tons on public relations. One in six dollars of the total wealth of the U.S. economy is spend on public relations. The auto industry for example will build a prototype extremely fuel efficient car to show that it's making efforts towards fuel efficiency but won't fully produce the car and sell it because the government does not require them to do so. Business regulates government not the other way around. The gas guzzlers are the most expensive and profitable.
At the heart, virtually all corporations don't give a rats ass about global earth issues. They are in business to make the most profit for the least amount of cost. It will never change.
The only semi-effective thing one can do is to stop using their services or products and write them a letter telling them exactly why, and that until they cease their hypocrisy on that issue, you will actively seek to spread the word to your friends and acquaintances to do the same. Money is their language.
I think that is sad that a company would use the word echo, when they are not doing anything echo friendly. I agree with you 100% that some company's are trying cover up the hazardous things that they do to the planet just by planting a few trees. I think they can be doing a lot more, to better our planet. Its amazing how Nikola Tesla had the answers over 100 years ago, to some of the problems we have today with carbon emissions. Great vid, keep it up....Peace out.
I saw an example of this, here in Canada, in a TV commercial recently. There is a big company that makes chemical cleaning products. There product lines are the problem as the chemicals they use are bad for the environment and frankly the people that use them in their homes. The commercial was all about how they are doing things around the plant that makes the products, so they can be more eco friendly. Most will think great, they're doing something. Why not just change the products?
It's not just the big corporations that are putting out these fluffy eco solutions to make themselves look better. Unfortunately, I find that many consumers really don't care about the issues and just buy these 'eco' products to relieve some of their enviro-guilt. It won't be until the consumers start paying attention and demand real solutions to the real issues, that companies will change.
What is right & what is reality are usuallly not the same. Companies exist to make money. They go green when the consumer puts enough monetary pressure on them to make it profitable to do so.....or unprofitable not to do so. I dislike the way companies try to manipulate consumers into thinking they're on their side via using the word green or eco. People have one powerful weapon that can change how these companies operate. Speak with your spending income. It's the language companies understand.
As for companies making token environmental acts ..... it's not illegal and it may not be technically unethical but to me it is hypocritical, patronizing to the general public, shortsighted and irresponsible. I see it as companies having a 'duty of care' to the communities from which they make their profits and their environmental actions should fit their impact on the environment. Always timely thoughts. Your marmalade looks great. Like the label.
I think it is unethical to use words like 'eco' in naming and advertising when there is no actual commitment to the connotations raised. They are more than words they are promises or understandings upon which customers direct their money. To me it is 'false advertising' or 'flying under false colours'.
sadly we live in a world in which perceptions matters more than what we or companies actually do. Most of us just dont have the time, never mind the desire to research companies.
for example, people who talk about using reusable shopping bags (which is a good things), then going on long haul flights with their eco mind missing.
I think a possible solution is to try to use more local people and companies so that we can more clearly see their operations in our day to day life.
Part of me wants to say hey, at least they're doing something that will benefit the planet, but the majority of my opinion is that big corporations should set the example and spend more of their billions on doing more in the way of refraining from harming the planet in the first place. Doing good things is great, but not doing the bad stuff is even more important. Great vids. I've been watching them for a while and I find you very charming, and informative, and interesting. Thanks 4 posting!
Unfortunately I think it's that because there is no profit in changing, there is no change. Government won't change anything as the corporations are in charge of them. Change will only come from us, the citizens.
travisisit 2 years ago
Dont you love how airlines do it now, they accept money for there carbon offset and plant a few tree,s... so people feel better
TrueBlueAustralian 2 years ago
the main evidence for global warming;
Al Gore's hockey stick graph, has been utterly disproven.
The IPCC has thrown it out.
It was found that if u put random numbers, it still comes up with the same shape.
However, the government still wants us to believe in it, because its a good way to tax businesses
richiechickennuggets 2 years ago
Is cumquat marmalade the same as quat marmalade only saltier?
Yakovich 2 years ago
yeah like a company dumping toxic wastes in the river, but plant a few trees in public and shaking hands w/local politicians in front of the cameras to look eco friendly....company's lying for profit..what a shock, who would've thought it? lol
kokonutbaby1 2 years ago
sad but true
dissent4freedom 2 years ago
I agree with you. In the US it is the same with carbon credits. You don't use less energy, you just buy carbon credits so you can use as much as you want. Al Gore has one house that uses 20 times the electricity as the average consumer, but he buys carbon credits so its ok. Thing is, he buys those credits from his OWN COMPANY.
bookhound63 2 years ago 4
CARBON CREDITS ARE BULLLLLLLSHITTTTTTT!!!! its literally a tax on living! you breath oxygen and exhale carbon, the plant breathes carbon and exhales oxygen...
you know what else is bullshit: global warming... thats BULLSHIT!
dissent4freedom 2 years ago 2
I agree completely. Next they will try to tax us for BREATHING!
bookhound63 2 years ago 2
lol i wont be suprised...
Habbibz91 2 years ago 2
I've practiced organic growing for 16 yrs but don't have certification - cuz of cost and big bro oversite. I always posted sign that said, Although not Certified, I still practice organic growing methods. Last year someone turned me in - mild hand slap and now I post a sign that tells all the product I do use in the greenhouse - If you are organic from the heart, you pray that all others are, if from the purse, you turn others in. Eco is a fad to make money for too many.
okiedragonlady2 2 years ago 2
For a while, the word, "turbo" was added to everything just because it would sell products.
ShushLorraine 2 years ago
Lastly, consumers will wake up over time to those who are genuine and those who are not. Over time, these tokenistic efforts may well turn into something more substantial, and we should encourage even the smallest of effort to ensure that that is the case. Thanks again.
PipeIsh 2 years ago
... Fourthly, small firms in particular appear to be unsure of how they can contribute, and so getting involved with a well known cause makes them appear and feel better. I liken this to households doing small things that taken alone are not contributing much but in the aggregate make a real difference...
PipeIsh 2 years ago
Thanks Christian for the interesting vid.
Although i agree with much that you say, there are a few points that I think need addressing. Firstly, even though many 'green' projects taken up by corporations might be tokenistic in some sense; if the are improving some condition they should be valued. This holds even when internal practices remain the same. Secondly, internal changes are not as visible as external projects. Thirdly, big changes internally can not be made due to tech constraints...
PipeIsh 2 years ago
Yeah, this sorter thing is kinda similar about the milk company.
I saw a video or something and i think its in australia and it was a news about the farmers wanted the consumers to know about the choice and whats in the milk.
Cause people just think its ordinary fresh milk where sum brands arent. since they add chemcials in it.
Only certian ones are full creamed but their are sum companies just hide info about that from consumers of whats in the milk.
izzyreb02 2 years ago
I think its unethical.
justmom66 2 years ago
You have it right!
Changing our mentality about the problems we have is the only way we can save ourselves. We cannot consume and pollute our planet any more!
Keep these observations on your mind and just believe that we are on the the right path. The time for change is now and it begins with us.
Keep the films going i love it!
Peace
I had a garden if you wanna check it out! All organic!
dancidelics 2 years ago
Congrats on your marmelade bro you look happy about it haha, cheers for the videos man
AGeNt7eVeN 2 years ago
I can't stand the way that big companies lie and take take take and the rich get richer and all that. I'm so fed up with "appearances". But I don't think that the world is going to change until ppl start takin care of their own. Family, home and community. PPL get all worked up over global issues (which are horrendous) but it really has to start in the home. Once all the homes and communities are recycling and reducing and working together and caring THEN we try to take care of the big stuff.
Wreckinbelle 2 years ago
How many "eco-friendly" people use those reusable shopping bags?
Look where they're made. Then tell me how much people are concerned about the environment.
Hypocrites!
dudeguitar1980 2 years ago 3
Those bags are designed to make rich bored housewives feel good about themselves and give them something to hold over the other minivan soccer moms. Those bags are made by slave kids in china and india. Children are being beaten and starved so you can use a bag and be posh and "eco-friendly" 10 years from now those bags are going to be in a landfill. The word eco has been kidnapped and is used to sell useless crap to a world hungry to feel good about themselves.
olivetreetapestries 2 years ago
This topic is a constant source of frustration for me also. Congrats on the marmalade!
anasynpunk 2 years ago
The good thing is that at least we have them noticing. Now, our part is to insist on it; and before we make our purchases. As individuals, we need to ascertain that any products we do buy ARE eco-friendly, and not merely an ad hook. If we insist on the genuine and nothing else will do, then it shouldn't be too long before the big corporations take notice. This, may be the tipping point.
NY5Quest 2 years ago
i am all for the green movement, but it is a band aid solution for humankind's nature of self interest and polarity abuse.
Tidnull 2 years ago
Is it not similar to the raping of the planet & its inhabitants by "big" countries that go to war against their "enemies" in the name of "democracy" pretending to help the world & more specifically the "little people" in those countries..all the while h a hidden agenda that really involves THEM making money, maintaining power It is neither earth nor people friendly Corps & govts are run by sociopaths that care nothing about mankind or the earth...just their own pockets & power scarey as heck
mukwah1111 2 years ago 2
In my opinion, corporations will never be green no matter what they do. They correct one or two things and screw 20 others up. Individuals, however can choose to live green and can be 100% more successful than a corporation. But wow, i agree with you about every one selling "green" products .....kind of reminds me of "clean coal".....haha even coals gone green. Just another load of b.s. the corparate, media and govt. liars are telling us.
SEAhris 2 years ago
I believe in the same thing, its just plain wrong.
Money = Greed, and a world that is running on greed will in the end be corrupted.
Many of these companies are using our planets resources for self gain, and this has to stop.
In a truly prefect world all products would be plant, animal base, etc with a 100% recycling plan in place for our childrens, children.
How many big companies would ever try to work this out though worries me.
1urbandevil 2 years ago
The example of a half-assed, hipocritical attempt to look good to the public without actually trying to fix the problem at the source is McDonald's and the Ronald McDonald House...
kathinspain 2 years ago
A big company that, for the sake of image, plants a few trees instead of cleaning up the way they manufacture their product, seems like an arsonist spitting on a fire, that he started, so he can say that he helped put it out. The only way to discourage this behavior is for people to be aware and buy those products accordingly. Business can only be counted on to think about the money. At this point an educated consumer is their worst nightmare. Caveat emptor!
dadfreeman 2 years ago
Typical. Did I cough? That's a bad beginning, isn't it? ;)
MarkBH70 2 years ago
Every industry spends tons on public relations. One in six dollars of the total wealth of the U.S. economy is spend on public relations. The auto industry for example will build a prototype extremely fuel efficient car to show that it's making efforts towards fuel efficiency but won't fully produce the car and sell it because the government does not require them to do so. Business regulates government not the other way around. The gas guzzlers are the most expensive and profitable.
888zzz 2 years ago
At the heart, virtually all corporations don't give a rats ass about global earth issues. They are in business to make the most profit for the least amount of cost. It will never change.
The only semi-effective thing one can do is to stop using their services or products and write them a letter telling them exactly why, and that until they cease their hypocrisy on that issue, you will actively seek to spread the word to your friends and acquaintances to do the same. Money is their language.
citizen762 2 years ago 2
It's Capitalism. A system that driven by profits. Whatever that could bring profits, I think they will do it.
malaysianews 2 years ago
I think that is sad that a company would use the word echo, when they are not doing anything echo friendly. I agree with you 100% that some company's are trying cover up the hazardous things that they do to the planet just by planting a few trees. I think they can be doing a lot more, to better our planet. Its amazing how Nikola Tesla had the answers over 100 years ago, to some of the problems we have today with carbon emissions. Great vid, keep it up....Peace out.
1ShaolinStyle 2 years ago
I saw an example of this, here in Canada, in a TV commercial recently. There is a big company that makes chemical cleaning products. There product lines are the problem as the chemicals they use are bad for the environment and frankly the people that use them in their homes. The commercial was all about how they are doing things around the plant that makes the products, so they can be more eco friendly. Most will think great, they're doing something. Why not just change the products?
thebirthden 2 years ago
It's not just the big corporations that are putting out these fluffy eco solutions to make themselves look better. Unfortunately, I find that many consumers really don't care about the issues and just buy these 'eco' products to relieve some of their enviro-guilt. It won't be until the consumers start paying attention and demand real solutions to the real issues, that companies will change.
thebirthden 2 years ago
What is right & what is reality are usuallly not the same. Companies exist to make money. They go green when the consumer puts enough monetary pressure on them to make it profitable to do so.....or unprofitable not to do so. I dislike the way companies try to manipulate consumers into thinking they're on their side via using the word green or eco. People have one powerful weapon that can change how these companies operate. Speak with your spending income. It's the language companies understand.
Praxxus55712 2 years ago 2
As for companies making token environmental acts ..... it's not illegal and it may not be technically unethical but to me it is hypocritical, patronizing to the general public, shortsighted and irresponsible. I see it as companies having a 'duty of care' to the communities from which they make their profits and their environmental actions should fit their impact on the environment. Always timely thoughts. Your marmalade looks great. Like the label.
sadia102 2 years ago
I think it is unethical to use words like 'eco' in naming and advertising when there is no actual commitment to the connotations raised. They are more than words they are promises or understandings upon which customers direct their money. To me it is 'false advertising' or 'flying under false colours'.
sadia102 2 years ago
Great vid,
sadly we live in a world in which perceptions matters more than what we or companies actually do. Most of us just dont have the time, never mind the desire to research companies.
for example, people who talk about using reusable shopping bags (which is a good things), then going on long haul flights with their eco mind missing.
I think a possible solution is to try to use more local people and companies so that we can more clearly see their operations in our day to day life.
nkey01 2 years ago
Part of me wants to say hey, at least they're doing something that will benefit the planet, but the majority of my opinion is that big corporations should set the example and spend more of their billions on doing more in the way of refraining from harming the planet in the first place. Doing good things is great, but not doing the bad stuff is even more important. Great vids. I've been watching them for a while and I find you very charming, and informative, and interesting. Thanks 4 posting!
Hayman40 2 years ago
Thats what I was going to say! Very good point.
cruddiestcrudever 2 years ago