I never get over the marvel that Kleiber was with this repertoire. The most intricate details of the score seem to emanate so organically from his gestures. There's nothing forced or choreographed.
such a risk waving the orchestra in on the up beat--but this is kleiber! such an organic way of conducting. no stick waving. a true understanding inside and out of the meaning of this great work. future conductors take note of this artistry.
There is just something about the main chord progression on which the first movement is built. I can't explain it. It is magical. Absolutely breathtaking.
@allegrettus The distortion is due to the YouTube bitrate compression. It is unfortunate that this video was uploaded as 240p, which has an audio bitrate of 60 kbps. That's too low for music of any kind; suitable only for speech.
When Berg's second opera Lulu was branded Entartete Musik (degenerate music) by the Nazi Party, Kleiber, who was not Jewish and therefore could have continued his career under the Nazi regime, resigned from his post at the Berlin Opera in protest. Kleiber also repudiated his contract with La Scala in Milan in April 1939, shortly after the fascist Mussolini regime enacted its own anti-semitic legislation, saying: "...[since] la Scala is denied for Jews...I can no longer co-operate.
@MrWatchdawg77 There's a slight misunderstanding here. It was Erich Kleiber, father of Carlos, to whom these actions refer, and not to the son. Not to say Carlos was not a splendid conductor with impeccable morality as well. This Brahms clip clearly show the truth of that. Meanwhile, let's not forget the father, an eminent conductor himself. Check out his recording (live, pirated) of Verdi's Macbeth with Maria Callas in 1952 or thereabouts. Wonderful performance.
I think there is little that divides Brahms & Tchaikovsky afterall (& they share the same b-day): There is so much intense emotion in both their music (classisists in form only!!). T. screams it out--Brahm's mutes his--but it is no less painful/beautiful. The way B. shapes the emotions--let alone the architecture--is breathtaking--actually he melds the 2 together--shaping them like sculpture till form/emotions are one & the same. Still waters ran very deep in this man. Kleiber--superb!!
Maestro Kleiber had the most natural, fluid conducting style I have ever seen. Its so instinctive--notice, for example the downward sweep of his arms for the off beat beginning bar--I have never seen that before. He trusts the orchestra--knows they will do their best. Marvelous.
I don't beleive a simple mortal man can create a such beauty.
Brahms is one of these gods that came on earth to give a present to humans, and I wonder if we really deserve it. Sorry for my english, I am french :) butfortunatelly music is universal !
@gabz00 One thing I do not understand; most major French musical ensembles are, in my opinion, generally terrific and that said, how come they don't have more international exposure?
@gabz00 You might be interested in reading Brahms' history (if you dont know it already of course =p) Im sure you will find it fascinating how he was self conscious of his pieces. At least orchestral pieces, at that time everyone was living "in the shadow of Beethoven." It was basically thought that his 9th symphony was the pinnacle of the symphony. As much as I love Beethoven's 9th this one does something to me that no other symphony has done. It is just shear... perpetual beauty.
@IzzacV Thank you for your advise, I will read it (because I don't know :)) It seems to be very interisting ! I agree, Beethoven is my favorite composer (equality with Bach I would say =) ), but they are not at all in his shadow, they just continue his genious :) Tahnk again :)
@gabz00 Brahms had great respect and a sense of awe for Bach & Beethoven. After hearing a Bach violin piece he threw his own music to the floor, exclaiming, "After that, how could anyone play such stuff as this!"
He borrow the forms of the Baroque and Classical composers and was a master of variations. His main theme of his 4th movement to this symphony was "borrowed" note for note from Bach's Cantata #150, "Unto Thee O Lord, I Lift Up My Soul" with one altered note. The A#.
And yet Brahms was a mortal with all the flaws. Brahms was a perfectionist and slaved over every detail of his music, but more importantly Brahms was a man torn between emotions at the same time struggling to escape the traps that other great artists had fallen into. He remained a bachelor for life, even though he felt love for other women, but he forced himself to remain unattached so as to not interfere with his life's mission....to be recognized as one of the greatest composers.
@toowaker37 Everyone is different. You can't say he was great because he wasn't married. There were all kinds of great people in the past who were married, single, gay, straight, etc...
@MaximPodolsky Yes, but show me an example of someone that composed music with the seething emotions of a Brahms that was happy and content in married life. There needs to be an inner struggle going on in someone to compose music of this kind. Just like you would create music of a Beethoven out of someone that didn't have his inner demons as well. Brahms had an extended fantasy period in his life where he was allowed to dream, a married man has those feelings snuffed out quick.
Dios mío es realmente Dios el que está al inicio de ésta introducción con los 1ros violines, es extraordinariamente fantástico lo que hace éste Director con la cuerda al príncipio realmente me encantó! Aunque luego el desarrollo me es muy lento y melosa, igual me gusta la versión de éste movimiento. El 1er oboe no me gusta el vibrato en el solo de 3:27, pero en general es buena la afinación ya que como Brahms se caracteriza por esos unísonos en las maderas son realmente dificilísimos de lograr.
What i like about this,is that the orchestral writing never seems thick which can sometimes be the case with Brahms. Kleiber is graceful in appearence and in the results he gets. It was a great shame he didn't have a larger repertoire.
@TheVrajr yep strange isnt it, its almost like saying "i dislike breathing" of all the composers Bramhms never let a note go that was not worthy of him
In the Columbia Book of Classical Music, left to me by my grandmother a lifetime ago, the Fourth is described as a deep, dark well; the longer one gazes into it, the more one is able to see. Illuminating performances such as this one inhabit a very rarefied strata. Like his father before him, Walter, Munch, Reiner, Steinberg and yes, even Toscanini, among a very few others, Kleiber's searching and penetrating reading reveals much of this seminal work - the Autumnal Composer's Autumn Symphony..
there is merit in many forms of music: it can be the classics, the blues, the pops, the soul music, the sixties music, jazz, and on and on we can go, even onto country music which I personally think does not reflect THE country, the country of grazing cows, clucking hens, fresh air, wide open spaces, and of growing things -- grass, hay, sleigh rides and a general slow down, an easier pace. Unfortunately, most country music does not reflect this in any way -- it's all lost love or love of beer.
Brahms' music helps me find my way towards life. Always touching anytime heard of. Especially Symphony no.s 2 and 4 conducted by Kleiber. Just shows the spirit and struggle in our life
What a monstrous atrocity. It is almost unbearable to listen to. Brahms is turning in his grave. Kleiber should be eternally ashamed of what bovine defecato he has produced. Celibidache forever!
@nww009, Europe is being Islamified and invaded by illegal immigrants from 3rd world lands. The US is being invaded by Mexican and 3rd world migrants from S.America, Asia, and E.Europe. The US govt and media is being controlled by the neck by JEWS.. .............IS THIS THE WORLD WE WANT ??????????????HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET RID OF THESE LEECHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!WE NEED NAZI MIGHT AND WILL POWER TO GET RID OF THESE INVADERS OF OUR CULTURE AND LAND.
@jesbus0000000, the Nazis should have won that war. The world would be different now. Europe would not slowly islamified as it is today. The US would have been controlled by Jews from govt, banks, wall streets, to the media. The NAZIS were absolutely right. They were right to eliminate JEWS & GYPSIES & 3rd world illegal immigrants..
@freeqwerqwer Shut the fuck up you asshole. My parents and grandparents lived in the German speaking countries when the Nazis took over. They said it was the worst thing that ever happened to them, they saw right through the lies. My grandparents were in the concentration camps.
Brahms was one genius fellow. How exquisitely he could mend different emotions into music and make it feel alive and flowing. Just brilliant. Learning the third movement in my high school orchestra. Though it's a more calmed down version, I don't find the least bit of dullness when going through the piece. Bravo Brahms, Bravo!
Wow. Reading the many arguments this video has given rise to was somewhat depressing. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they shouldn't wag it in anyone's face. But I don't want to give a lecture or anything. Just wanted to say: I really think this is a beautiful composition, and if you don't, I hope you can find something else on this website to satisfy you. Thank you abbjorko
I was wounded during world war two and when I got out of the hospital i somehow landed up in a wonderful Belgian Home and they played this piece, I was transformed, uplifted, warmed, temporarily at peace. I play this often. I am 87 years old and plan to hear more Brahms before I die.
@oscarcolman What an inspiration you are, and may I assure you Sir, I intend to listen to as much Brahms as possible before I give way myself, even though I am at the tender age of 30!
@oscarcolman Although I am a pacifist and I consider every war a crime against humanity I pay respect to second world war veterans. I think it was the only war actually worth fighting.
@aubreyprosper1994 See, the thing is that in most wars one fights over territory, power, money or other vain things. In World WW2 the Alliant powers had to stop Hittler because otherwise he would exterminate 3 times more people than he actually did. Imagine what would happen if the Nazis axctually won that war.
@jebus0000000 Perhaps. But keep in mind that the Nazi party was funded by American business (war equals profit,) and the Nazis could have been stopped completely with a few key bombings (munitions and fuel plants,) the only empirical reason the US gov. deployed troops was the lucrative manufacturing oppurtunity for war suppliers. War is a racket, it always has been.
@confutatis747 no, u fuck up dick...he's a fucking veteran and he fought in World War II and served this country, even was wounded...so fuck up since u don't know how tough it is seeing people dying...so fuck up asshole/dick
@confutatis747 I want you,,,you bastard!! to break every bone in your body,,,you useless creature!!. Get off this site where beautiful music is being played. You social leper. !!! I trust Oscarcolman enjoys this music for many more years to come, God Bless Him.!
@oscarcolman don’t listen to that disrespectful guy confutatis747 cuz u are a veteran…and he doesn’t understand that it is tough being injured and seeing people’s deaths in World War II…so, may G-d bless and take care:)
@oscarcolman I recommend to you the biography of Brahms by Jan Swafford, there you'll find the sources of that which transformed your senses. His life was a constant yearning for what, perhaps, was unknown to him; hence those melancholic and oddly peaceful melodies which can transform the soul.
Que magnífico director y que gran obra la de Brahms, lo lamentable es lo poco que grabó el Maestro Kleiber, no cabe duda que el genio no se prodiga en exceso.
When I first saw Carlos Kleiber conduct some 25 years ago, it was from a video & I was somewhat annoyed at the conductor's rather comical gestures. Then, I realized that his back is always facing the audience & this was his way of communicating with the orch. What amazing communication it is, too!
It's rare to see a son fill his father's hug shoes, but Carlos certainly has done just that, & Erich Kleiber was 1 hell of a conductor! I see many similarities to that of Furrtwengler.
Such a brilliant performance, thanks for posting. So unhurried, leaving time for the middle voices to come through and the richness of the orchestration to shine. Just love it
@ilkinond And Beethoven composed his greatest works after 1827. It appears that you've stumbled onto the wrong page. I believe Ozzy & Sex Pistols would be more to your liking.
@unclejuniorsoprano No - that fact that I don;t like Brahms doesn;'t mean that I must therefore be a fan of punk. I think there are far more interesting composers than Brahms, and I think that artistic cowardice and nostalgism are certainly charges that can be leveled at Brahms, who, for all his great talent, chose to write music that belonged completely to the past rather than trying something a bit more modern and daring. That's why I think he is an old bore.
@ilkinond You are an idiot of the highest order. Brahms isn't just a composer. As with Bach, Mozart and Beethoven, he is an institution! Robert Winter gave 10 Mozart & 10 LVB lectures & could have included 10 Brahms lectures as well. The world was craving a 10th sym from LVB & Brahms was faced with the obstacle of being unique & NOT sounding like LVB. Unlike the early works of LVB, his music is completely individual. I don't have to defend Brahms anymore than you have to defend your stupidity.
The same charge could have been levelled at JS Bach. There really isn't such a thing as entirely "new" and forward-looking music -- ALL music derives much of its substance from what's come before it.
@gnolti No there isn;t, but you know what I mean. Some composers can still feel very new and original. Brahms was hardly one of those, was he? Boring old nostalgist.
@SatchmoSings As far as Brahms being the "greatest" composer after Beethoven, you left out the words "one of the." Glenn Gould's favorite composer was Richard Strauss, hardly mine, but I couldn't argue with him. As far as Germans are concerned, don't forget Mahler.
Tchaikovsky was a contemporary, but what about Prokofiev? At the premier of Prokofiev's 2nd violin concerto, Artur Rubinstein whispered to Prokofiev during the 3rd mov., "Brahms could have written it".
@ilkinond Just 1 more thing: isn't there ANYTHING intelligent you can add other than to just say "the music is so piss-boring tho"? I'll bet you're just loaded with information. No doubt, you could teach Harmony & Counterpoint. Perhaps you could start your own Brahms Haters Club on YouTube. Just go on a Sid Vicious page & recruit some members. Idiots like you are dangerous because given the ability to do so, you'd use the Grand Canyon as a landfill because, to you, it's just another deep hole.
@ilkinond umm this symphony is quite challenging actually, the final movement was very unique for the time being tragic in nature, albeit in a heroic stoical way.
there is much to love in Brahms, try his chamber music, a series of superb masterpieces.
@ilkinond I think you're seriously ill... and you think I'm wrong...well, that's the first sign;;) if you don't like it, go elsewhere..nobody invited you here ;)
@viragnes Your remark makes me think of the young musical student who told his wiser old professor...."You know, after much listening, I have decided I can't stand the sound of Bach, just can't stomach him!" to which the old professor without even looking around said, "Well son, I am very sure that Bach will be so sorry to hear that..." :-) Such it is with Brahms...his reputation is made...is yours?
@ilkinond I dislike it, and all the pinheads and hunchbacks who view the webpage must know that I dislike it. 'The upbeat alone breaks my heart' Jeeeeeeeezus!
thank you so much for this treasure, Carlos Kleiber loves and understand Brahms,GREAT!
beatrusa 1 week ago
Why didn't Brahms write 9 symphonies like everyone else???
emeralddreams888 2 weeks ago
@emeralddreams888 Haydn wrote over 100 symphonies.
Mastadex 2 weeks ago
@Mastadex Lol, yea I know. It was a joke.
emeralddreams888 1 week ago
Adoro questa sinfonia!!!Con il volume al massimo ascoltarla è un estasi...
aaaoooaaful 2 weeks ago
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I just can't get over how fucking boring Brahms is. Did this guy never hear of hip hop?
willroseliep 3 weeks ago
@willroseliep .....? -.-
Violiiiiin 3 weeks ago
I never get over the marvel that Kleiber was with this repertoire. The most intricate details of the score seem to emanate so organically from his gestures. There's nothing forced or choreographed.
hmaren 3 weeks ago
realize how stupid I am to waste so much time
skywind00j 4 weeks ago
Exquisite, simply exquisite. Not THAT'S music.
Ron239 1 month ago
ces premières notes...c'est divin
07fantine 1 month ago
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gaytexancowboy 1 month ago
such a risk waving the orchestra in on the up beat--but this is kleiber! such an organic way of conducting. no stick waving. a true understanding inside and out of the meaning of this great work. future conductors take note of this artistry.
windstorm1000 2 months ago
2:20 cellos are on different bowings lolz :D
cello39mn 2 months ago
i like it
larsshottas 3 months ago
No matter how magnificent this music is, I just can't over the fact how awful the violins in this orchestra sound....
winrx 3 months ago
There is just something about the main chord progression on which the first movement is built. I can't explain it. It is magical. Absolutely breathtaking.
Brythepilgrim 4 months ago
what happened to brahms? he is not thatpopular anymore?Himself he predicted his music would be forgotten...seems he is getting right?
gydur1 4 months ago
@gydur1 have u looked at symphony schedules? he;s at the top
windstorm1000 2 months ago
@windstorm1000
OK..I guess i am kind of out of touch.
I have been living in Thailand for the last ten years, and nobody listens to classical western music here...
gydur1 1 month ago
@gydur1 no, he's still one of the most popular composers.
jin12345678 1 month ago
@jin12345678 OK ... I am wrong then...:)
Btw... of all the different versions on records that I have heard I find sir Adrian Boult with London Symphony Orchestra the best.
gydur1 1 month ago
something like bathtub sound!! sorry. But Kleiber is ok!
allegrettus 4 months ago
@allegrettus What the heck?
TonySungYim 4 months ago
@allegrettus The distortion is due to the YouTube bitrate compression. It is unfortunate that this video was uploaded as 240p, which has an audio bitrate of 60 kbps. That's too low for music of any kind; suitable only for speech.
NoMoreVanilla 1 week ago
@samdaiellybeenie14 What is the 1st pickup note?
TonySungYim 4 months ago
Just simply amazing. It touched me.
TonySungYim 4 months ago
Carlos through Brahms pulled the first descending third out of eternity and made it sound like musik... or was it the other way round?
MariaCaIIas 4 months ago
When Berg's second opera Lulu was branded Entartete Musik (degenerate music) by the Nazi Party, Kleiber, who was not Jewish and therefore could have continued his career under the Nazi regime, resigned from his post at the Berlin Opera in protest. Kleiber also repudiated his contract with La Scala in Milan in April 1939, shortly after the fascist Mussolini regime enacted its own anti-semitic legislation, saying: "...[since] la Scala is denied for Jews...I can no longer co-operate.
MrWatchdawg77 5 months ago
@MrWatchdawg77 There's a slight misunderstanding here. It was Erich Kleiber, father of Carlos, to whom these actions refer, and not to the son. Not to say Carlos was not a splendid conductor with impeccable morality as well. This Brahms clip clearly show the truth of that. Meanwhile, let's not forget the father, an eminent conductor himself. Check out his recording (live, pirated) of Verdi's Macbeth with Maria Callas in 1952 or thereabouts. Wonderful performance.
clarionstreet 3 weeks ago
Kleiber was born as Karl Ludwig Kleiber in Berlin, the son of the Austrian conductor Erich Kleiber and Ruth Goodrich, an American by jewish origin.
MrWatchdawg77 5 months ago
21 people are assholes without ears...
carlosmg1982val 5 months ago
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will i ever like this?
seagizm 5 months ago
like, if when you listen to it your heart just burns inside....beautifulll
etonrocks 5 months ago
Oh, c'est beau à pleurer ! Quel son ! Que dire... la musique s'envole et les mots vont à pieds, laissons-la donc parler! Brahms, je t'aime!
Orchidoclastie 5 months ago
Genius at work...
MariaCaIIas 5 months ago
Amazing performance. Maestro Carlos Kleiber loved Argentina. Cheers!!!, Sergio.
profesorsergio 5 months ago
i've always thought c.k. looked likea painter when he conducted. RIP - maybe the best ever
bonesteve 5 months ago
@ ZENOPHILIUS go to imslp.org for online pieces you can print
vic2riajude 6 months ago
can anyone tell me how to download pieces online
please!!!!!
:)
zenophilius1 6 months ago
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danielleosimpson 6 months ago
The man is a giant!We know that. May 7th is a historic date Tchaikovski& Brahms born on the same day 7years apart.
TheTherese3 6 months ago
I think there is little that divides Brahms & Tchaikovsky afterall (& they share the same b-day): There is so much intense emotion in both their music (classisists in form only!!). T. screams it out--Brahm's mutes his--but it is no less painful/beautiful. The way B. shapes the emotions--let alone the architecture--is breathtaking--actually he melds the 2 together--shaping them like sculpture till form/emotions are one & the same. Still waters ran very deep in this man. Kleiber--superb!!
windstorm1000 6 months ago
Maestro Kleiber had the most natural, fluid conducting style I have ever seen. Its so instinctive--notice, for example the downward sweep of his arms for the off beat beginning bar--I have never seen that before. He trusts the orchestra--knows they will do their best. Marvelous.
windstorm1000 6 months ago
I love this orchestra and director. The flutist serves as a great inspiration to me :)
MegaMaestro14 6 months ago
this theme is so great.
knwanze 7 months ago
Thank you for posting!! He was so great!!
sisifus100 7 months ago
have to write an essay on sonata form in half an hour... this is going to help infinitely - brahms is pretty damn clever -
cobbtothejay 8 months ago
How could there be 20 people who don't like this?? Must be Brittany Spears fans.
Powerglide1A 8 months ago
Yes, I believe that:
"Brahms is one of these gods that came on earth to give a present to humans,..." Candide
dinhhuong294 8 months ago
I keep Kleibers version in my cars DVD at all times, play it whenever I need to relax.
Reverendjim1 9 months ago
His interpretation of Brahms is Brilliant
Reverendjim1 9 months ago
I don't beleive a simple mortal man can create a such beauty.
Brahms is one of these gods that came on earth to give a present to humans, and I wonder if we really deserve it. Sorry for my english, I am french :) butfortunatelly music is universal !
gabz00 10 months ago 40
@gabz00 One thing I do not understand; most major French musical ensembles are, in my opinion, generally terrific and that said, how come they don't have more international exposure?
SatchmoSings 9 months ago
@gabz00 You might be interested in reading Brahms' history (if you dont know it already of course =p) Im sure you will find it fascinating how he was self conscious of his pieces. At least orchestral pieces, at that time everyone was living "in the shadow of Beethoven." It was basically thought that his 9th symphony was the pinnacle of the symphony. As much as I love Beethoven's 9th this one does something to me that no other symphony has done. It is just shear... perpetual beauty.
IzzacV 9 months ago 9
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gabz00 9 months ago
@IzzacV Thank you for your advise, I will read it (because I don't know :)) It seems to be very interisting ! I agree, Beethoven is my favorite composer (equality with Bach I would say =) ), but they are not at all in his shadow, they just continue his genious :) Tahnk again :)
gabz00 9 months ago
@gabz00 Brahms had great respect and a sense of awe for Bach & Beethoven. After hearing a Bach violin piece he threw his own music to the floor, exclaiming, "After that, how could anyone play such stuff as this!"
He borrow the forms of the Baroque and Classical composers and was a master of variations. His main theme of his 4th movement to this symphony was "borrowed" note for note from Bach's Cantata #150, "Unto Thee O Lord, I Lift Up My Soul" with one altered note. The A#.
kfcohea 8 months ago 2
@gabz00
Agree with one correction: "gods", not:gods
batchava 1 month ago
@gabz00 Your English is very good. You should consider a career teaching grammar to middle school students in the United States.
ttlms 3 weeks ago
And yet Brahms was a mortal with all the flaws. Brahms was a perfectionist and slaved over every detail of his music, but more importantly Brahms was a man torn between emotions at the same time struggling to escape the traps that other great artists had fallen into. He remained a bachelor for life, even though he felt love for other women, but he forced himself to remain unattached so as to not interfere with his life's mission....to be recognized as one of the greatest composers.
toowaker37 2 weeks ago
@toowaker37 Everyone is different. You can't say he was great because he wasn't married. There were all kinds of great people in the past who were married, single, gay, straight, etc...
MaximPodolsky 2 weeks ago
@MaximPodolsky Yes, but show me an example of someone that composed music with the seething emotions of a Brahms that was happy and content in married life. There needs to be an inner struggle going on in someone to compose music of this kind. Just like you would create music of a Beethoven out of someone that didn't have his inner demons as well. Brahms had an extended fantasy period in his life where he was allowed to dream, a married man has those feelings snuffed out quick.
toowaker37 2 weeks ago
@gabz00 hey that was pretty good english!
kingdave7 1 week ago
Love the conducting... such musical, creative, and efficient gestures!
WorldWalker11 10 months ago
My favourite symphony for years...
gydur1 10 months ago
this is glorious. bravo brahms.
TheDeviltrace 11 months ago
Dios mío es realmente Dios el que está al inicio de ésta introducción con los 1ros violines, es extraordinariamente fantástico lo que hace éste Director con la cuerda al príncipio realmente me encantó! Aunque luego el desarrollo me es muy lento y melosa, igual me gusta la versión de éste movimiento. El 1er oboe no me gusta el vibrato en el solo de 3:27, pero en general es buena la afinación ya que como Brahms se caracteriza por esos unísonos en las maderas son realmente dificilísimos de lograr.
VIOLONCHELOS 11 months ago
Wonderful conducting.TY abbjorko for posting
paulostroff99 11 months ago
20 people think that conducting is just 1 and 2 and 3 and 4.
weixiong369 11 months ago
20 people think that conducting is just 1 and 2 and 3 and 4.
weixiong369 11 months ago
This and Mendelssohn's Scottish are my favorites.
tallorder9 11 months ago
What i like about this,is that the orchestral writing never seems thick which can sometimes be the case with Brahms. Kleiber is graceful in appearence and in the results he gets. It was a great shame he didn't have a larger repertoire.
japanesesweet 11 months ago
Amazing!!!
sarahviolaviolin 11 months ago
Amazing!!!
sarahviolaviolin 11 months ago
This is the 3rd movement of Symphony #3!
Argentino246 11 months ago
@Argentino246
No, it's the first movement of Symphony Nr. 4!
mistatomsom 11 months ago
@mistatomsom I know!! I realized it after I posted - Thanks!!
Argentino246 11 months ago
Conductor looks like Rutger Hauer
JimmyJ9031 11 months ago
kleiber your a genius !!!
mrvishal1000 1 year ago
Arguably the most elegant conductor who ever stepped on a podium.
stellarartist 1 year ago 2
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAG! :3
GanettoDasuto 1 year ago
meraviglioso , toccante, una delle più belle pagine di musica romantica che siano mai state create. Stupendo Kleiber.
scriabin50 1 year ago
19 dislikes!? What on earth is there to dislike about this?
TheVrajr 1 year ago 2
@TheVrajr people who prefer rock or rap...
TK2008BEST 1 year ago
@TheVrajr yep strange isnt it, its almost like saying "i dislike breathing" of all the composers Bramhms never let a note go that was not worthy of him
thatwilldonicely 1 year ago
@TheVrajr The problem with youtube, despite the access to incredible recordings, is that we get access to incredible idiots too.
ulyssesjj 1 year ago
@ulyssesjj You don't have to look down at the comment bar, nor should you especially since you know your getting drivel and bile every time.
Gargantupimp 1 year ago
@TheVrajr they dislike themselves because they are nothing compared to this
TheSemitone 1 year ago
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firestartertwistedfi 1 year ago
Es una pieza calida, hermosa. estoy preparando una audicion con esta obra y espero ganarla, seria lindo decir que tengo trabajo gracias a Brahms!!
ritaxmix 1 year ago
I love this version, thank you so much for posting. I get goosebumps every time, wonderful :)
PianoLieder 1 year ago
Well, oscarcolman, you entry here has revived my faith in the web to deliver remarkable things. Thank you.
shutoman7 1 year ago
its amazing how he composed this piece ONLY using third intervals and inversions! he is truly amazing and i love this piece SOOOOOOOOO much!
emmiebee11 1 year ago
Brahms y Kleiber me gustan más que sopar el pan...
rafalorencio 1 year ago
In the Columbia Book of Classical Music, left to me by my grandmother a lifetime ago, the Fourth is described as a deep, dark well; the longer one gazes into it, the more one is able to see. Illuminating performances such as this one inhabit a very rarefied strata. Like his father before him, Walter, Munch, Reiner, Steinberg and yes, even Toscanini, among a very few others, Kleiber's searching and penetrating reading reveals much of this seminal work - the Autumnal Composer's Autumn Symphony..
AJNorth 1 year ago
there is merit in many forms of music: it can be the classics, the blues, the pops, the soul music, the sixties music, jazz, and on and on we can go, even onto country music which I personally think does not reflect THE country, the country of grazing cows, clucking hens, fresh air, wide open spaces, and of growing things -- grass, hay, sleigh rides and a general slow down, an easier pace. Unfortunately, most country music does not reflect this in any way -- it's all lost love or love of beer.
9431421 1 year ago
Brahms was a genius. That is all to be said.
roman1akid 1 year ago
@roman1akid yes, i don't know why these musicologists waste their time scribbling away, the poor deluded fools ;)
firestartertwistedfi 1 year ago
@firestartertwistedfi Fellow Enlightened Soul, it really beats me... :)
roman1akid 1 year ago
Brahms' music helps me find my way towards life. Always touching anytime heard of. Especially Symphony no.s 2 and 4 conducted by Kleiber. Just shows the spirit and struggle in our life
cedricyu803 1 year ago
Kleiber was the greatest conductor of the last century.
MrClassicalClassics 1 year ago
【おぉたむすねィく 探検隊】Autumn Snake 建築部門顧問：サンドバッグ建築研究所長 （ＳＢ研）
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autumnsnakenhk 1 year ago
What a monstrous atrocity. It is almost unbearable to listen to. Brahms is turning in his grave. Kleiber should be eternally ashamed of what bovine defecato he has produced. Celibidache forever!
SuperDoctorFaustus 1 year ago
@SuperDoctorFaustus er... it sounds nice to me! would you like to elaborate on what you don't like about the performance?
firestartertwistedfi 1 year ago
@SuperDoctorFaustus how articulate...
ulyssesjj 1 year ago
Immortal. I'll never forget April 5 1996 when I was in Ingolstadt hearing this ...
mpuchberg 1 year ago 2
I've heard that Carlos Kleiber was Plácido Domingo's conducting teacher for years.
kimancuo 1 year ago
God, that first pickup note is heartbreaking. RIP Carlos Kleiber and Brahms.
samdajellybeenie14 1 year ago 7
Kleiber kind of looks like Beetlejuice without the makeup and crazy hair. Awesome performance either way.
Sexican 1 year ago
I love this conductor, I can see the music from his eyes, he is conducting with his heart, he himself is music.
nanayu1 1 year ago 42
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@jesbus0000000, the Nazis should have won that war. The world would be different now. Europe would not slowly islamified as it is today. The US would have been controlled by Jews from govt, banks, wall streets, to the media. The NAZIS were absolutely right. They were right to eliminate JEWS & GYPSIES & 3rd world illegal immigrants..
freeqwerqwer 1 year ago
@freeqwerqwer Shut the fuck up you asshole. My parents and grandparents lived in the German speaking countries when the Nazis took over. They said it was the worst thing that ever happened to them, they saw right through the lies. My grandparents were in the concentration camps.
nww009 1 year ago
@freeqwerqwer what a thing to say.. at least wait until your balls drop before talking about what you don't know... idiot.
s4life 1 year ago
I like the pain in Brahm's music, especially when beauty and pain hits me together.
charmingemily 1 year ago 2
Superb! TY.
paulostroff99 1 year ago
Brahms was one genius fellow. How exquisitely he could mend different emotions into music and make it feel alive and flowing. Just brilliant. Learning the third movement in my high school orchestra. Though it's a more calmed down version, I don't find the least bit of dullness when going through the piece. Bravo Brahms, Bravo!
Alexr197 1 year ago
I got love classical music through this symphony at the age of 14. I don't hear any other kind of music since then... This is THE SYMPHONY for me. :)
contrafagotto 1 year ago
Oh God... another BRAHMMY!
ReturnOfTheStienway 1 year ago
Wow. Reading the many arguments this video has given rise to was somewhat depressing. I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they shouldn't wag it in anyone's face. But I don't want to give a lecture or anything. Just wanted to say: I really think this is a beautiful composition, and if you don't, I hope you can find something else on this website to satisfy you. Thank you abbjorko
GuessWhoRox 1 year ago 3
фантастика ..
SuperAbisal 1 year ago
I was wounded during world war two and when I got out of the hospital i somehow landed up in a wonderful Belgian Home and they played this piece, I was transformed, uplifted, warmed, temporarily at peace. I play this often. I am 87 years old and plan to hear more Brahms before I die.
oscarcolman 1 year ago 548
@oscarcolman What an inspiration you are, and may I assure you Sir, I intend to listen to as much Brahms as possible before I give way myself, even though I am at the tender age of 30!
gwangjuboy1 1 year ago
@oscarcolman Although I am a pacifist and I consider every war a crime against humanity I pay respect to second world war veterans. I think it was the only war actually worth fighting.
jebus0000000 1 year ago
@jebus0000000 Just out of curiosity, why is WWII the only war worth fighting?
Understand, I'm not trying to discount your point of view. I too am a pacifist. I just want to know your reasoning.
aubreyprosper1994 1 year ago
@aubreyprosper1994 See, the thing is that in most wars one fights over territory, power, money or other vain things. In World WW2 the Alliant powers had to stop Hittler because otherwise he would exterminate 3 times more people than he actually did. Imagine what would happen if the Nazis axctually won that war.
jebus0000000 1 year ago
@jebus0000000 Perhaps. But keep in mind that the Nazi party was funded by American business (war equals profit,) and the Nazis could have been stopped completely with a few key bombings (munitions and fuel plants,) the only empirical reason the US gov. deployed troops was the lucrative manufacturing oppurtunity for war suppliers. War is a racket, it always has been.
vaporarrows 1 year ago
Carlos Kleiber's recording of Brahms is one of the finest (as well as with Schubert's Uncompleted Symphony).
It's a reference! (...and it deserves our reverence.)
OliverOhly 1 year ago 3
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@oscarcolman fuck up u dick
confutatis747 1 year ago
@confutatis747 no, u fuck up dick...he's a fucking veteran and he fought in World War II and served this country, even was wounded...so fuck up since u don't know how tough it is seeing people dying...so fuck up asshole/dick
moshekai2010 1 year ago
@confutatis747 I want you,,,you bastard!! to break every bone in your body,,,you useless creature!!. Get off this site where beautiful music is being played. You social leper. !!! I trust Oscarcolman enjoys this music for many more years to come, God Bless Him.!
Ivanhoe2 1 year ago
@oscarcolman
Good for you. :) I sure hope you do. Stay strong.
XHikarixxx 1 year ago 3
@oscarcolman God bless you !
LiaSnape 1 year ago 3
@oscarcolman don’t listen to that disrespectful guy confutatis747 cuz u are a veteran…and he doesn’t understand that it is tough being injured and seeing people’s deaths in World War II…so, may G-d bless and take care:)
moshekai2010 1 year ago 2
@oscarcolman Wonderful story. Thank you for sharing.
MrClassicalClassics 1 year ago
i wish music could be with u all the time,sir..god bless
chachakuku 1 year ago
@oscarcolman bless you in all your years of life and in whatever lies ahead
RedCloudBeechWaveAhh 1 year ago
@oscarcolman you sir, deserve a million thumbs-ups.
ohquffy 1 year ago
@oscarcolman I recommend to you the biography of Brahms by Jan Swafford, there you'll find the sources of that which transformed your senses. His life was a constant yearning for what, perhaps, was unknown to him; hence those melancholic and oddly peaceful melodies which can transform the soul.
ThalesdeM 10 months ago
@oscarcolman long life to you Oscar
nonnopirro52 7 months ago
Just send chills down my spine.
iplongnin 1 year ago
A third-rate transfer of audio to Youtube.
crazeygrazey 1 year ago
IT'S ALIVE!
LiMaoTang 1 year ago
CASALTI
Que magnífico director y que gran obra la de Brahms, lo lamentable es lo poco que grabó el Maestro Kleiber, no cabe duda que el genio no se prodiga en exceso.
carlosgarcialeos 1 year ago
When I first saw Carlos Kleiber conduct some 25 years ago, it was from a video & I was somewhat annoyed at the conductor's rather comical gestures. Then, I realized that his back is always facing the audience & this was his way of communicating with the orch. What amazing communication it is, too!
It's rare to see a son fill his father's hug shoes, but Carlos certainly has done just that, & Erich Kleiber was 1 hell of a conductor! I see many similarities to that of Furrtwengler.
Well Done!
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
Such a brilliant performance, thanks for posting. So unhurried, leaving time for the middle voices to come through and the richness of the orchestration to shine. Just love it
ulyssesjj 1 year ago
@ulyssesjj Yes, wonderful performance. Pity the music is so piss-boring tho.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond Brahms Fourth Symphony is BORING?
Well then, which one do you like? His FIFTH?
Brahms was the greatest composer to come after Beethoven.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
@SatchmoSings Yes, I like the all the symphonies from the fifth onwards best, and all the works Brahms composed after 1897. Boring old German fart.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond And Beethoven composed his greatest works after 1827. It appears that you've stumbled onto the wrong page. I believe Ozzy & Sex Pistols would be more to your liking.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@unclejuniorsoprano No - that fact that I don;t like Brahms doesn;'t mean that I must therefore be a fan of punk. I think there are far more interesting composers than Brahms, and I think that artistic cowardice and nostalgism are certainly charges that can be leveled at Brahms, who, for all his great talent, chose to write music that belonged completely to the past rather than trying something a bit more modern and daring. That's why I think he is an old bore.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond You are an idiot of the highest order. Brahms isn't just a composer. As with Bach, Mozart and Beethoven, he is an institution! Robert Winter gave 10 Mozart & 10 LVB lectures & could have included 10 Brahms lectures as well. The world was craving a 10th sym from LVB & Brahms was faced with the obstacle of being unique & NOT sounding like LVB. Unlike the early works of LVB, his music is completely individual. I don't have to defend Brahms anymore than you have to defend your stupidity.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@ilkinond
The same charge could have been levelled at JS Bach. There really isn't such a thing as entirely "new" and forward-looking music -- ALL music derives much of its substance from what's come before it.
gnolti 1 year ago
@gnolti No there isn;t, but you know what I mean. Some composers can still feel very new and original. Brahms was hardly one of those, was he? Boring old nostalgist.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@SatchmoSings As far as Brahms being the "greatest" composer after Beethoven, you left out the words "one of the." Glenn Gould's favorite composer was Richard Strauss, hardly mine, but I couldn't argue with him. As far as Germans are concerned, don't forget Mahler.
Tchaikovsky was a contemporary, but what about Prokofiev? At the premier of Prokofiev's 2nd violin concerto, Artur Rubinstein whispered to Prokofiev during the 3rd mov., "Brahms could have written it".
Brahms was almost = 2 LVB.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@ilkinond Brahms is boring??? You must have forgotten to wear your thinking cap during the video. Perhaps you ought to go see the Wizard.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@ilkinond Just 1 more thing: isn't there ANYTHING intelligent you can add other than to just say "the music is so piss-boring tho"? I'll bet you're just loaded with information. No doubt, you could teach Harmony & Counterpoint. Perhaps you could start your own Brahms Haters Club on YouTube. Just go on a Sid Vicious page & recruit some members. Idiots like you are dangerous because given the ability to do so, you'd use the Grand Canyon as a landfill because, to you, it's just another deep hole.
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
@unclejuniorsoprano Cool - I've got you in a bit of a strop I see! Go and listen to some Brahms, you'll be dozing off in seconds.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond umm this symphony is quite challenging actually, the final movement was very unique for the time being tragic in nature, albeit in a heroic stoical way.
there is much to love in Brahms, try his chamber music, a series of superb masterpieces.
thatwilldonicely 1 year ago
this is it. from the very opening. one of the most convincing performances.
musicy88 1 year ago
awesome! TY
paulostroff99 1 year ago
ça c'est de la pure musique c'est magnifique d'entendre encore se morceau toubonnement magnifique , sublime et j'en passe bien d'autre
nicolas60oise 1 year ago
Why does anyone even remember this boring old German fart? Everything he ever wrote was the Brahms lullaby.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond I think you're seriously ill... and you think I'm wrong...well, that's the first sign;;) if you don't like it, go elsewhere..nobody invited you here ;)
viragnes 1 year ago
@viragnes Your remark makes me think of the young musical student who told his wiser old professor...."You know, after much listening, I have decided I can't stand the sound of Bach, just can't stomach him!" to which the old professor without even looking around said, "Well son, I am very sure that Bach will be so sorry to hear that..." :-) Such it is with Brahms...his reputation is made...is yours?
gurlsingerfan 1 year ago
@ilkinond I dislike it, and all the pinheads and hunchbacks who view the webpage must know that I dislike it. 'The upbeat alone breaks my heart' Jeeeeeeeezus!
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond DO NOT FEED THAT RUSSIAN TROLL
vtgbart 1 year ago
@vtgbart What the hell are you talking about? Christ jesus inside out.
ilkinond 1 year ago
@ilkinond Brahms wrote the Brahms Lullaby - god you're obviously a genius for figuring that out.
ulyssesjj 1 year ago