I personally dislike Rush not because of his (outward) political stance, but because he is a bully spouting a lot of hate. Same with Beck. And Olbermann for that matter.
Nice job not slamming Limbaugh just because it seems like the thing you're 'supposed' to do. I don't listen to him and am no fan, so I'm not coming from that angle, but it seems to me that most of his most passionate haters are people that have never listened to him and probably couldn't name specific reasons why they hate him other than vague insults like calling him an idiot and making fun of his size. He's a polarizing figure that you love or hate. I'm with you in the middle Penn.
What is Penn's problem. I always think he comes across as basically a decent guy. Why can't he see that people like Limbaugh and Beck are the scum of the earth - contemptuous propagandists, shameless liars, hateful sociopaths with no compassion or humanity.
@AlephNeil Beck, at least, was no liar. He was (and is) insane, I'll grant, but he had no motivation to lie in the things he said. And there's nothing wrong with being a propagandist.
It's precisely because he's a "decent guy" he can't see that. Denying others' humanity helps nothing. Calling people the scum of the earth helps nothing. This is the thinking wars are born of.
@AlephNeil And Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow are not the scum of the earth? Their all the same thing. Political pundits pushing for an agenda. Left or right they all don't deserve our trust.
I've listened to Rush a number of times and I've noticed he often uses this trick where he begins by really flattering the person, be it a caller or whomever, so they are reluctant to want to criticize him or whatever he is saying. I've seen (well, heard) him disarm some callers who disagreed with him not with anything that has to do with the issue but just with flattery.
It is distressing to see the usually astute Penn fall for it.
Rush's gift is the ability to say something that is very agreeable and then twist it around. Context, context, context. Penn should invest some time in the broken magic, that is Rush, and revisit his thoughts on the devisive Rush. Rush uses hate rhetoric and then convinces others that he does not.
Come one its the people who create government. and you can see the difference in other countries.Not all governemts are bad if culturally there is a freedom based view. But come on we need basic human values(biologically) and economically values to be given to the human cause.
In response to "personal insults are for cowards" -----Naming is deciding, people assign names as short-cuts, usually with positive or negative connotations, in order to help them assert their own way of thinking in the presence of usually opposing viewpoints. I coined the phrase "Lush Limp-Blob" in order to negate the viewpoints of a certain republican, based on my way of thinking, that facilitates learning, and optimizes one's capacity for understanding.
I am a Rush listener and I have heard him describe himself as a libertarian/conservative. Not a Republican. So maybe if you listened to him for more than 20 minutes, you would find that you two have a lot more in common in terms of what you believe in. I understand that your video is not a flame against Rush its just that.... " I'm just saying....."
@mjcole2003 He's pretty horrible on social issues. I mean he'll be libertarian where it fits into the conservative base but he does put on a show. It took him a while to even say much bad about Bush at all even though Bush wasn't acting fiscally conservative. But I guess this is just a minor glimpse of his hypocrisy where he is supposed to be exposing phonies yet unfortunately he's appealing to the cash base which unfortunately includes some of the craziest people in America.
I'm not surprised that Penn has some views in common with Rush. I do, and I also have a lot in common with Penn's views, because they are well grounded in common sense and logic. I'm a conservative politically and firmly believe in the foundation of a country which our founding fathers laid down, based on individual freedom. I really enjoy Penn's views.
I'm a Roman Catholic, and have friends who are atheists and we talk religion, and both of understand the other's point of view.
I think the greatest thing about Penn is the way he shows people its good to pick and choose your battles...you dont have to be a down the line party parrot ...put thought into your position and stick to your own moral compass regardless of what your peers or party say...it isnt a pep rally, its our government and requires deep thought not cheerleading.
Rush is an asshole, like really. He says some of the most outrageous shit I've ever heard before in my lifetime, thus far. Don't ask me to quote exactly what I've heard, as it was only clips played from him on TV.
@SalandFindles Yes clips that were no doubt edited or shown out of context. I disagree with most things Rush says, and I have heard him say outrageous things but I was actually listening to his show. But Pen is right he is an excellent speaker and he is accurate on many things. I listen to his show once and a while when it gets crazy I just turn it off. If you want to form an opinion on something go directly to the source material. Clips from the media are near worthless.
They're unedited. Whenever I see him, sitting in his radio station, talking utter bullshit fluently and without edit, I know it's a real video clip. Of course it's "edited". How long is his radio show? I'm willing to bet it's over an hour long, probably over 2 and 3 hours. Of course it's edited. They're not going to show the whole thing on television. But Rush is a bastard who speaks out of context with every word that comes out of his mouth.
I'm not so sure. I mean I agree with you if you mean that insulting people for lack of an argument is for cowards. But probably my biggest problem with Rush is his hypocrisy. Just take Bush. His fan base loved Bush but if they didn't he'd be attacking him just like all the other moderate Republicans on fiscal matters.
Then he appeals to his racist followers emotions. But of course only liberals would even mention the word racism about him.
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We OBVIOUSLY need to run a much tighter ship economically. and I think socially too. We have let the lunatic fringe run wild for far too long now in this country and what you end up with is the Democrats coming out of the closet as flaming communists and celebrities pledging to serve Obama so that we are on this planet forever, whatever that means.
Some celebs go so far that they appear to be worshipping Obama and children are being indoctrinated to blindly follow the Communist wolves and even into Obama worship.
Penn and Rush are almost identical with respect to economics. There are a few stark differences but for the most part the goals are the same. It is cultural and socieal issues where they differ greatly. I find both men engaging, entertaining and informative.
When he was on Larry King they had a discussion and one of the last things Larry King said was something along the lines of Someone needs to tell the masses how to think. If thats not a liberal thing to say then I don't know what is.
@pennsays ya its crazy. But i would love to see the condition of a libertarian state. If it exists if it does let me know. I thinkg penn is right about 50% of the time but if libertarian is could solve major problems id be down. Health,economy, Social melding.
"a libertarian state. If it exists if it does let me know."
...That would be interesting to see but I don't think it could ever happen. An actual Libertarian is a rare thing. It seems to me that many of the people who call themselves "Libertarian" actually want to ban a lot of stuff. Then there are the big business "Libertarians" who manipulate people by saying it's all about freedom when they really just want to be able to destroy the environment and not pay taxes.
That was weak. He doesn't know what Limbaugh is about and the crap that he puts out there, and yet he's sticking up for the guy because Limbaugh likes him?
Penn should be doing (understatement) a little more investigative research into Lush Rimbaugh before he says shit like that. Really?
First of all. Why are you inverting his name like a stupid faggot? And second of all, he's not saying that he agrees with everything that Limbaugh says, he's just likes Limbaugh. Limbaugh is funny and clever and very bright on many principles that overlap those of libertarianism. You also have to understand that Limbaugh is an entertainer on top of being a political figure.
You're so right! I am a really stupid faggot. I have been waiting so very long for someone to tell me that; now I know. Thanks so much.
I just didn't know that Penn would be okay with the crap that Limbaugh says about people concerning race, and other idiocy. For the moment, just to give Penn the benefit of the doubt, because I really support his calling bullshit on astrology and superstitious crap, and I think he's really funny, I'll assume that he just doesn't appreciate all the junk RL says
He says he agrees with him on a lot of points, not every point, and really, who gives a shit? The friend of my enemy is not my enemy... or some other nonesense.
the problem with limbaugh is you either like him or you don't. nobody i've ever met says i like him sometimes. i suppose penn would be the first person. personally i can't like him, but good for you penn for finding the good in him :-)
Conservatives shouldn't care about most things that they do. Adults should be left to make their own decisions about several issues like drugs, porn, and sex partners. Guns are clearly mentioned in the Constitution, so a real conservative shouldn't involve the government so much in people's lives
I wonder what Penn thinks about immigration and the various issues that surround it like boarder control, illegals, enforcement, etc.
I suspect that most people who actually have listened to a republican like rush speak about the topic would find them selfs agreeing. It just requires them to drop the "republicans are all racists!" bull that gets bandied about.
Penn, your absolutely right about Rush. I think you would enjoy his show if you gave it a shot.... just take him in small doses.
Man if the republicans would just drop the religious right crap and the anti-imigration BS they would womp the nanny state "we know whats best for you idiots" "be a servant to Obama" idiot dems.
I think you're absolutely right. Unfortunetly these days, anti-immigration and religion seem to be the core issues of the Republican party, with smaller government maybe a distant 3rd.
May, You are exactly right. I am actually a Christian but it disgusts me how people try and use their "Christian" credentials to manipulate religious folks to get elected, even Obama pulled that card but the GOP are masters at it. It is funny that the guy who wrote the declaration of independence would not get elected today just because he wasn't a Christian. Jefferson was a Deist in the enlightenment tradition of Voltarie. Being religious does not mean you have good political sense
they're building a highway in texas going straight through mexico, it actually goes through to canada, republicans dont care about immigrants cause they have this idea of "the north american union" republicans have been avoiding steps toward immigration efforcment since this immigration issue got raised. facts are there
Hahaha come on. Who is building it (specificly, not vague "them"). No contractor has put a bid in. No money has been set aside for it (it would cost a fortune). And blw, the democrats control both houses and president so how can the republicans do anything? And they controled the house since 2004. Get a grip.
@Tanis1Lionheart I meant to state that Republicans have a slightly higher chance of being against illegal aliens than Democrats. But overall both parties are failures in this regard.
Repubs vs. Superman? I don't know where you got that one, but I'll smoke some of that stuff with ya!
@FaganRoberts 'Illegal Alien' = Superman. He wasn't born in the US of A and I never heard about him getting naturalized. WHERE IS THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE KA-EL?
@pumarunner88 Uh, huh. Right, I agree. I think on balance Republicans are a bit better on the illegal alien issue than Democrats. But both have a poor track record overall. Republicans like cheap labor for industry and Democrats appeal for the liberal votes alien "immigrants" provide. Everyone else is left cleaning up the expensive mess. But as I eat my steak burrito, I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir.
badtown, there's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about the separation of Church and State.
Congress shall make no laws respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Rush does agree with that, what he doesn't agree with is the liberals, with the help of the ACLU, who think it means saying Merry Christmas in the Post Office should be outlawed.
You should really read more then Daily Kos and The Huffington Post.
I don't care if the people in the post office say "Merry Christmas" either. Christmas isn't even treated as a religious holiday in this country anymore, it's as secular and commercialized as can be. We really have taken the Christ out of Xmas, so that's why I feel people in the post office saying Merry Christmas is perfectly harmless.
It's not a matter of Republican/Democrat/Libertarian/etc.. The fact is that both are rational thinkers that believe in honest intellectual debate. It's inevitable for such people to support, and even have a liking for, each other. That's a basic precept of civilised behavior.
After voting Rep. up until 2008, I now see that there are a number of people in and around the party who are sociopaths trying to stir up controversy for their own twisted amusement. Rush is one of them.
It blows my mind that this party whips up the less intelligent members of its ranks with buzzwords like "socialism" and "death panels", purely for the thrill of watching the chaos which follows.
Shame on Rush, Fox News and shame on Penn for not recognizing evil when he sees it.
"I now see that there are a number of people in and around the party who are sociopaths trying to stir up controversy for their own twisted amusement. Rush is one of them."
I don't agree with Rush on most things but it's obvious to me that he is passionate about what he believes in.
You're a cynic for chalking up people who don't agree with you to nothing more than "sociopaths."
Penn looks at things for what they are. He doesn't care about what's taboo or not taboo trendy or not trendy. He just looks at the logistics of things and agrees with people who's logic fits his. And he agrees with a lot of Limbaughs ideals and views. He doesn't know much about limbaugh other than what he has taken from their topics of discussion. And democrats do the same thing in radio and TV. They did it with Bush by making him out to be the antichrist.
Penn, Penn, Penn. I'm sorry but I gotta disagree with ya on Rush Limbaugh, he's way out there on a lot of things as far as Libertarians go. A statist is a statist is a statist . Rush is just wrong. I'm tired of Libertarians siding with and defending republican types. We're supposed to be INDEPENDENT. But it's okay, you're entitled to your opinion Penn, I still like you, but you can't make me like Rush, sorry. (well Rush the Canadian band, okay!).
Rush Limbaugh is a Patriot. Call him a Republican, a Libertarian, or whatever. He cares about this country. He is also brilliant and possesses a magnificently healthy ego. Penn appreciates this: small minds just can't stand the man... probably because they can't understand half of what he says or means!
You're full of it. Why would anyone call Rush Limbaugh a Libertarian??? He doesn't want drugs to be legal, he doesn't want gay marriage, he's against Separation of Church and State, and he had no problem with Bush's spending on the Iraq War. No sane person would call him even a real conservative.
Wake up, Rush doesn't love this country, he loves the corporations.
Do you really think it matters? Everyone wants to see a fight, but Penn is praising Rush, like Rush was praising him. Penn genuinely likes the way Rush speaks and likes some of the intellectual things he says. Who cares?! If we can all put aside our differences & encourage people for what we do think are strengths, our country (and the world) would probably be a little better for our children to grow up in....good for Rush and Penn! You have to judge from your own experiences,
Rush Limbaugh is actually a Libertarian, if you take time to listen to his show. He believes in small government, low taxes, is against "equality" things like affirmative action, and is for maximum freedom for all.
I really think you two could be great friends because you and Rush are both AWESOME!!!
Rush is a Conservative. The values you listed, save it for affirmative action are Conservative. I think most Libertarians are Conservative and they do not know it. Remember we Conservatives are Conservatives before Republicans.
You do understand what he said right? Penn is a libertarian and like most libertarians he's a free market capitalist. Now he says he doesn't listen to Rush, and he said he only listened to like 20 minutes, but I'm sure the 20 minutes or so delt with free market issues, and probably shrinking government in some manner. You can't hate on the man just for that.
I still respect Penn although my beliefs on things like affirmative action are different (because of who I am- don't get me started about stones in the river and stones in the sun) because he's pro-Free speech but not hateful, Penn is thoughtful. Rush Limbaugh is mostly hate speech. Rush Limbaugh seems to be 60% hate, 40% prescription drugs. I may never agree 100% with Penn (but pretty close to it) I will never agree with Limbaugh. ...wait, where was I going with this?. ..Whatever.
I think a great deal of what Rush says is perceived as hateful, but in reality it's more like the Bill Maher style of sarcastic speech that is intended to be jokes, not unlike Penn's work (who differentiates jokes from actual serious topics)... I used to listen to Rush while eating lunch between classes in college, and his style of political humor and satire was a welcome change from the typical "establishment" humor that gets mean spirited too easily (and takes itself FAR too seriously..)
Fuck Bobby Jindal, Fuck Rush Limbaugh, but Penn is right in this video about Rush being better than the leftist globalist free-speech hating bastards.
Rush is a parasite who makes his own countrymen stupider for a living.
He has no respect for reality and simply exists to tell a select group of easily brainwashable morons what they want to hear.
Think about it: Limbaugh propogandizes using brainwashing tactics on a daily basis: repetition of ideas ad nauseum, dehumanization of the other side, arbitrarily assigning ethical and moral values, threatening those who don't agree with him
Rush is entertaining for the most part, he makes me laugh, think, and gets my younger brother to engage in "intelligent" conversations . Personally I prefer Glenn Beck ;)
5/5 Penn and hope to see more of you on the Glenn Beck program!
Rush is the Howard Stern of politics. He's a shock jock who uses the news. His personal beliefs are usually not the main focus of his show, what he says on his show are purposely extreme right wing quips to challenge the extreme left but honestly he's not as far right as he wants to appear.
Now some one like Bill O'reilly is just a plain moron with no way to defend but I believe that Rush gets the reactions he's looking for based on some of the extreme stuff he says.
LOL. That's awesome Penn. Welcome to our underground family. Ya' know. "Underground" as in mentioning that you agree with him in public or at parties... That takes balls and you've proven once again you got'em!
I'm 24 and enjoy listening to Rush... not saying i completely agree with everything he says but hes thought provoking and thats what counts. And I do have a lot of respect for you Mr. Jillette. It's the people that bad mouth him and have never listened to him that get on my nerves!
As a non-registered libertarian, i'd liek to inform you that the libertarian/Limbaugh overlap of agreement is about 70% of the time. Mostly, it's things like abortion and the war on drugs that libertarians and those true to heart republicans disagree on.
Wrong, he said that he thinks it should be legal up to point where the fetus gets brain waves and says the idea that life/rights should begin at conception is insane.
How am i wrong i just said he was against abortion, brain waves begin well before the third trimester, that would make roe vs wade the biggest genocide/murder bill passed in the history of our country. Not to mention its unconstitutional for a fed govt to go to a state and say that you cant ban late term abortion, which is what that bill essentially said. By the way christopher hithcens is against all abortion.
actually most libertarians are against abortion, i.e ron paul, bob barr; pen teller is in terms of brain waves, and brain waves occur as early as a month. In terms of atheists a lot of prominent atheists are against it liek chriss hitchens, and dawkins, and many prominent atheists throughout time, b/c they look at it in a rational persepective, trust me if you ever seen an abortion, its just sick and inhumane, its said that our society would accept it,
define "rational perspective" also every person you mention is a MAN! its a surgery its suppose to be messy. Yes abortion is eliminating a living organism technically but i am pro-choice if it is before 12 weeks. And no i do not care what the fetus can do at that point. 1st trimester abortions are fine. I do not see men being legally bound to be present a child's life so why should there be so much controversy surrounding a woman's choice. its inhumane to be a deadbeat dad also.
Not nessecarly true. Aborotion is probably the most difficult social issue that anyone can argue about. There are pro-life libertarians and there are pro-choice libertarians. I do, however, think that a lot of people agree that late-term aborition (unless the life of the mother is in danger or possibly rape), should not be allowed. I saw a few online; most disturbing one i saw was a fetus still in the embrionic sack moving and wiggeling with it's hads and feet, tossed into a trash can.
Rush has Mr. Snerdly who talks in his ear. Rush is okay, most of the criticism of him comes from people who take him out of context or don't listen, as one point of view. The trick is to listen to as many voices as possible and then make up your own mind, be a true thinker.
As Al Franken says "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot." How clever. Lacking a rational argument or even a salient point... resort to a personal attack. Works every time.
i would be a libertarian too... if there was any chance in hell a libertarian candidate could win. the main reason i tend to vote republican is that i'm concerned the government will take away our personal liberties in the name of saving us from ourselves. what a bunch a crap! and as far as rush being a racist. that's also crap. listen to his show a couple of times and you'll see. he is a bit of a sensationalist, but is that really so bad.
Amen, how can you possibly give Rush Limburger these kudos?? Wonderful speaker your ass, he has proven time and again his racist-type mentality and his ignorance to global warming (I see Rush, ALL the scientists are WRONG), his disdain for immigrants, etc etc. All the worst of the white man's burden.
Oh that would be too easy to slide in there for you wouldn't it? Can you post ANYTHING to counter it? I know one thing he called Edward James Almos "a mongrel'.
Try reading this SLOWLY. If he ever said anything, even once, that would prove what you claim, state date, time and context. I'm actually trying to help you here. When did he refer to Almos as "a mongrel"? BTW, it's not my responsibility to debate any general claims you make about Limbaugh unless you provide specific facts to back what you post. I'll try looking it up while I wait for your response.
Try and subterfuge your inane logic w/ fact, it was a statement he made on his television show. Otherwise if you wish to call me a liar so be it but I would not take the time to rewrite this if I desperately had to lie to you but you will say so nonetheless, I'm sure of it.
Hey, you made the claim in your post. It's got nothing to do with what I wish for, what would you call someone who throws out accusations or 'facts' without any specific reference? If you want to call it a lie, rant , or sensational remark, I don't care. BTW, I'm assuming the 'mongrel' you're refering to would be Edward James Olmos?
I gave a specific reference, just because someone doesn't allot specific times, dates and whereabouts you catagorize it as a lie or hearsay? I would not need to lie b/c I don't care that much over Rush, apparently you do.
Edward James Olmos, thank you for the spelling corrections.
You have to have specifics that can be referenced by your opponent in any argument. It bolsters your position. Particularly when it's irrefutable. You gave me Olmos, refered to by Limbaugh as 'mongrel' and that you remembered it from Limbaugh's TV program. His program ran in the early '90s. Hard to research that unless you're a member of his website. I did see some sites that mentioned something about it, but I would consider them less than credible. And context, context, context.
Yes yes yes, Im well aware if this debate crap and actually I have better things to do than sit on here with you about it. Maybe it "bolsters" your ego or something (not unlike Rush) to feel you have won something like this but you will nevertheless hardly convince me or others who see through the shadowy veneer of Limbaugh. I saw enough of his TV show to know, research that.
I'm a Conservative with some Liberatarian leanings as well...So I thought this was refreshing to see that the main influences I like from each camp can find some common ground...
I am excited that more and more entertainers are coming out and supporting conservative American values. We need to be proud to be American again and stop telling the Arabs how sorry we are...NOT.
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I've been saying for a long time that conservatism is much closer to libertarianism than most conservatives and libertarians want to admit. The biggest differences I see are on the issues of national defense but on most domestic issues we are on the same page alot. Kudos to you Penn for having the stones to say you agree with Rush on some things.
"The enemy of my enemy is not my friend." - Penn Jillette.
Why is it that someone as horrifically wrong as Rush Limbaugh on everything else, someone whose positions on just about everything else, can still be liked by Penn Jillette? Why is Penn suddenly toeing the line when it comes to lunatics like Limbaugh and Beck?
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Rush is a Conservative. Not a Republican. He (and I) did not support Republican candidate John Mccain. He (Mccain) and Obama are both taking this Country to Hell (It just would have taken longer for the older Mccain).
if he truly didn't suppourt McCain he should've endorsed a third party candidate, but he refused. I'm a fan of Rush still but damn it just even if 30% of registered republicans voted 3rd party last election it would've gave us a more conservative/libertarian republican party.
This is the 2k, and the new racism is all about class (which Rush Lacks). The color green. But we still have Biggot slime balls from the jim crowe days still alive trying to spread hate. This is a new generation and a different world now. He needs to climb back into his rat hole or come up with a new model to bring back up a failing party. I've probably been where your trying to go, so YOU grow up.
I'm still trying to figure what the hell that post means.
The actual leader of the republican party is black by the way, you do know that dont you?
If Rush was as much of this racist as you say, he would be bashing Micheal Steele as much as he criticizes obama. Once again, solidly prove Rush is a racist and stop with these ideologue claims, Find a youtube video or link to something where Rush actually attacks a specific group SOLELY based on the color of someones skin, or other preference.
I said Rush was racist. Skin color does'nt mean anything to me. Ignorance doesn't begin with him or end. Michael steel and alot of other Republicans are not necessarily biggots. I'm speaking about Rush and his blind followers.
I used to have the utmost respect for you and teller since I was very young. Now that I know that you support this racist biggot you disapoint me. Not all conservatives are racist, but limbaugh is abusing his freedom of speech. I thought that you were the magician at one point, but I guess the tricks have been pulled on you this time.
Oh get over yourself "I used to have the utmost respect...." did you actually listen to what Penn said?
I would like you to specifically site sources that prove the racist bigot nature of Limbaugh? And show me one credible source that shows hes "Abusing" his freedom of speech.
And if positive comments about how someone is good at what they do makes you no longer enjoy "Penn Says" "Bullshit" or cool magic tricks, then your a baby who needs to grow up.
I dont have to site any sources, because all you have to do is listen to his radio shows and millions of Americans who feel that he is an out of touch conservative who talks shit about others who he dosen't like or disagree with, all while using racial under tones and hiding it under the excuse of being an "entertainer". Ive been following this guy off and on since the early 90s, and hes only gotten worse. you dont understand because he dosen't talk shit about you though, huh?
If you cannot prove what exactly your claiming without actual facts (i.e I want to see you posting a pic of Rush in a cross burning ceremony) then you are merely stating your personal opinion on what this guy says. This claim of "all you have to do is listen to his radio show" well then I want you to listen to his monday broadcast ( I shall too, ) and I want you to site all these "Racial undertones" because right now all your doing is making claims and not proving anything.
As I've said earlier about some peple being out of touch, whats racist to me is fine with you. If your not a female, you don't get how some comments spell biggot. If your not gay you don't know when a straight guy hurts your feelings infront of millions. I don't have to prove anything, once again. you have the same sources that I have, so look it up. And while your at it look up the def. of racist and ask any of the above cultures (black,fem,gay) how they feel about Rush.
People in minority groups probably have a distorted image of Limbaugh.
And yes you do need to back up your claims, because you are making them and I am challenging you to back up your data. But of course you act like every other liberal coward and claim someone is being racist or offensive when they challenge you. Lets focus once again on Rush since that is what we are talking about here. My challenge for his monday broadcast still stands.
Rush is simply Howard Stern on the opposite end of the spectrum. He is an entertainer and is damn good at what he does. But since he comes from a more conservative point of view he gets attacked with the usual "Liar" "Racist" "Homophobe" comments. The only reason liberals and other "interesting" people will bash people such as Rush for a failure in values in morals, is because they themselves have no morals. Rush is honest and speaks from his point of view with what he has seen in life.
"Typical Republican"? Id love to hear and explanation for that.
That is not exactly what I said, and meant. the reason why people will bash rush (and similar people) for a failure in morals, i.e. drug use, and perhaps his divorces, because the discriminating individual them self has no morals or values and therefore its easy to scrutinize another person if they fail at their own morals, and they cant be held up to the same standards themselves since they themselves hold next to no morals.
Actually it's rush who is the leader of the party of "family values". Since people like him are so critical of their fellow Americans and all our horrible flaws, it's only natural that people will point out his obvious hypocrisy due to his drug usage and divorces. It's funny to listen to many talk radio shows and how they bitch about single people being stupid, irresponsible, and lazy, while the spokesman for their party has been divorced 3 times, and has no children.
Rush is not the leader of the republican party, he is a guy who babbles into a microphone in Florida!
You claim how its "funny to listen to many talk radio shows..." how often have you actually listened to rush to make such a bold statement of what he talks about. Do you actually listen to the show or just watch youtube clips and news clips from left wing media sources that edit and take things out of context?
Both actually , in response to your last question. Rush babbles into a microphone, and then all the republicans just blindly parrot everything he says instead of thinking for themselves. He is in a way the leader of the Republican party, just not in an official capacity. It would be pretty naive, however, to think that many of these right-wing radio hosts are not getting some money from the GOP to carry their dirty water for them.
No, i could be wrong. It's just seems that when a person has a huge media platform and uses that platform for the soul purpose of promoting one particular political party, that the party might be paying that person. Sorry, but i'm just a very skeptical person.
Rush does his diatribes alone so that nobody can call him out on any of his falsehoods, hypocrisy, and venomous smearing. I can't believe someone as skeptical as Penn would endorse a shit head like Limbaugh based on 20 minutes of listening and some compliments. I'm really disappointed. Regardless of your politics, Rush is bad for you. He makes millions for causing conservatives and liberals to hate each other through mountains of lies and double standards. Penn, do your homework on him, please.
Rush sucks pig shit through a straw. The man was an oxy addict who went down to another country and came back caught with a shit load of viagra. Then he goes on the radio and preaches about the evils of drugs (evil is a word he loves by the way, and imo misues) and Christian morals and values. Fat fuck, I can see in my head how he lives his sundays, pop some oxy smoke a joint sit on the couch with a bucket of chicken and then go to his radio station and slander everyone he saw on tv that morn.
I personally dislike Rush not because of his (outward) political stance, but because he is a bully spouting a lot of hate. Same with Beck. And Olbermann for that matter.
chozenn1 4 months ago
Nice job not slamming Limbaugh just because it seems like the thing you're 'supposed' to do. I don't listen to him and am no fan, so I'm not coming from that angle, but it seems to me that most of his most passionate haters are people that have never listened to him and probably couldn't name specific reasons why they hate him other than vague insults like calling him an idiot and making fun of his size. He's a polarizing figure that you love or hate. I'm with you in the middle Penn.
TimmyCherry 6 months ago
What is Penn's problem. I always think he comes across as basically a decent guy. Why can't he see that people like Limbaugh and Beck are the scum of the earth - contemptuous propagandists, shameless liars, hateful sociopaths with no compassion or humanity.
WTF Penn?
AlephNeil 9 months ago
@AlephNeil Beck, at least, was no liar. He was (and is) insane, I'll grant, but he had no motivation to lie in the things he said. And there's nothing wrong with being a propagandist.
It's precisely because he's a "decent guy" he can't see that. Denying others' humanity helps nothing. Calling people the scum of the earth helps nothing. This is the thinking wars are born of.
IoEstasCedonta 9 months ago
@AlephNeil And Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow are not the scum of the earth? Their all the same thing. Political pundits pushing for an agenda. Left or right they all don't deserve our trust.
Sumoto999 5 months ago
FUCK YOU PENN!
neonaction 9 months ago
I've listened to Rush a number of times and I've noticed he often uses this trick where he begins by really flattering the person, be it a caller or whomever, so they are reluctant to want to criticize him or whatever he is saying. I've seen (well, heard) him disarm some callers who disagreed with him not with anything that has to do with the issue but just with flattery.
It is distressing to see the usually astute Penn fall for it.
Here's an idea for a show: Flattery is BullShit!
jimbrown257 11 months ago
Rush's gift is the ability to say something that is very agreeable and then twist it around. Context, context, context. Penn should invest some time in the broken magic, that is Rush, and revisit his thoughts on the devisive Rush. Rush uses hate rhetoric and then convinces others that he does not.
Ninetyone11 11 months ago
Come one its the people who create government. and you can see the difference in other countries.Not all governemts are bad if culturally there is a freedom based view. But come on we need basic human values(biologically) and economically values to be given to the human cause.
Guitarstring187 1 year ago
In response to "personal insults are for cowards" -----Naming is deciding, people assign names as short-cuts, usually with positive or negative connotations, in order to help them assert their own way of thinking in the presence of usually opposing viewpoints. I coined the phrase "Lush Limp-Blob" in order to negate the viewpoints of a certain republican, based on my way of thinking, that facilitates learning, and optimizes one's capacity for understanding.
Helioforge 1 year ago
I am a Rush listener and I have heard him describe himself as a libertarian/conservative. Not a Republican. So maybe if you listened to him for more than 20 minutes, you would find that you two have a lot more in common in terms of what you believe in. I understand that your video is not a flame against Rush its just that.... " I'm just saying....."
mjcole2003 1 year ago
@mjcole2003 He's pretty horrible on social issues. I mean he'll be libertarian where it fits into the conservative base but he does put on a show. It took him a while to even say much bad about Bush at all even though Bush wasn't acting fiscally conservative. But I guess this is just a minor glimpse of his hypocrisy where he is supposed to be exposing phonies yet unfortunately he's appealing to the cash base which unfortunately includes some of the craziest people in America.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
Penn,
You do realize that you are not obligated to say, tape and broadcast every single thought that happens to pop into your head, right?
broker010 1 year ago
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@broker010 And you are not obligated to watch.
SgtDICTION 1 year ago
@broker010 It gets him money and with the many Penn Says/Penn Points he does, he'll have to scrape the bottom of the barrel every now and then.
HolyDiver1 1 year ago
I'm not surprised that Penn has some views in common with Rush. I do, and I also have a lot in common with Penn's views, because they are well grounded in common sense and logic. I'm a conservative politically and firmly believe in the foundation of a country which our founding fathers laid down, based on individual freedom. I really enjoy Penn's views.
I'm a Roman Catholic, and have friends who are atheists and we talk religion, and both of understand the other's point of view.
DARIVSARCHITECTVS 1 year ago
@DARIVSARCHITECTVS Same here. Compulsion is the enemy of freedom.
QuartuvLarry 1 year ago
Penn is the kind of atheist I like. One who respects those who aren't.
Atreus21 1 year ago 9
I think the greatest thing about Penn is the way he shows people its good to pick and choose your battles...you dont have to be a down the line party parrot ...put thought into your position and stick to your own moral compass regardless of what your peers or party say...it isnt a pep rally, its our government and requires deep thought not cheerleading.
jedirifleman 1 year ago
Rush is an asshole, like really. He says some of the most outrageous shit I've ever heard before in my lifetime, thus far. Don't ask me to quote exactly what I've heard, as it was only clips played from him on TV.
SalandFindles 1 year ago
@SalandFindles id love if you would quote it.
daPlumber702 1 year ago
@SalandFindles Yes clips that were no doubt edited or shown out of context. I disagree with most things Rush says, and I have heard him say outrageous things but I was actually listening to his show. But Pen is right he is an excellent speaker and he is accurate on many things. I listen to his show once and a while when it gets crazy I just turn it off. If you want to form an opinion on something go directly to the source material. Clips from the media are near worthless.
IronManOfficialguy 1 year ago
They're unedited. Whenever I see him, sitting in his radio station, talking utter bullshit fluently and without edit, I know it's a real video clip. Of course it's "edited". How long is his radio show? I'm willing to bet it's over an hour long, probably over 2 and 3 hours. Of course it's edited. They're not going to show the whole thing on television. But Rush is a bastard who speaks out of context with every word that comes out of his mouth.
SalandFindles 1 year ago
You and Rush are both high on drugs when you speak,,so wtf,,
darryl360 1 year ago
Im very liberal but i have never insulted rush as a person..ive insulted his ideas...personal insults are for cowards.
ProudAtheist90 1 year ago
@ProudAtheist90 "personal insults are for cowards."
I'm not so sure. I mean I agree with you if you mean that insulting people for lack of an argument is for cowards. But probably my biggest problem with Rush is his hypocrisy. Just take Bush. His fan base loved Bush but if they didn't he'd be attacking him just like all the other moderate Republicans on fiscal matters.
Then he appeals to his racist followers emotions. But of course only liberals would even mention the word racism about him.
RuinSonic 1 year ago
This is more respectable than blindly hating someone just because somebody else thinks you should.
votejello 1 year ago
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pennsays 1 year ago
I agree more with you politically, but I listen to rush everyday and he is mostly fighting the good fight.
macdaddye2k 1 year ago
We OBVIOUSLY need to run a much tighter ship economically. and I think socially too. We have let the lunatic fringe run wild for far too long now in this country and what you end up with is the Democrats coming out of the closet as flaming communists and celebrities pledging to serve Obama so that we are on this planet forever, whatever that means.
LiberalsAreRapists 1 year ago
Some celebs go so far that they appear to be worshipping Obama and children are being indoctrinated to blindly follow the Communist wolves and even into Obama worship.
LiberalsAreRapists 1 year ago
Penn and Rush are almost identical with respect to economics. There are a few stark differences but for the most part the goals are the same. It is cultural and socieal issues where they differ greatly. I find both men engaging, entertaining and informative.
spanky061970 1 year ago
@spanky061970
Me too. I love the BullSh!t show.
gworksnell 1 year ago
rush is a asshat.
defiythelie 1 year ago
I like Rush in spite of myself. He is an excellent and engaging speaker, and he is a bright man.
I disagree with him on a host of issues, but very rarely do I find myself offended by him, and sometimes he's right on the money.
Of course I also like Howard Stern and Penn Jillette, though I disagree with them on lots of issues as well.
People get so bent out of shape over their favorite objects of political scorn. Offense is taken, not given.
032125 1 year ago
When he was on Larry King they had a discussion and one of the last things Larry King said was something along the lines of Someone needs to tell the masses how to think. If thats not a liberal thing to say then I don't know what is.
th3dark3rsh33p 1 year ago
It's always surprising to see who Penn defends.
pennsays 1 year ago 4
@pennsays ya its crazy. But i would love to see the condition of a libertarian state. If it exists if it does let me know. I thinkg penn is right about 50% of the time but if libertarian is could solve major problems id be down. Health,economy, Social melding.
Guitarstring187 1 year ago
@Guitarstring187
"a libertarian state. If it exists if it does let me know."
...That would be interesting to see but I don't think it could ever happen. An actual Libertarian is a rare thing. It seems to me that many of the people who call themselves "Libertarian" actually want to ban a lot of stuff. Then there are the big business "Libertarians" who manipulate people by saying it's all about freedom when they really just want to be able to destroy the environment and not pay taxes.
jimbrown257 11 months ago
That was weak. He doesn't know what Limbaugh is about and the crap that he puts out there, and yet he's sticking up for the guy because Limbaugh likes him?
Penn should be doing (understatement) a little more investigative research into Lush Rimbaugh before he says shit like that. Really?
aReasonableMan12 1 year ago
First of all. Why are you inverting his name like a stupid faggot? And second of all, he's not saying that he agrees with everything that Limbaugh says, he's just likes Limbaugh. Limbaugh is funny and clever and very bright on many principles that overlap those of libertarianism. You also have to understand that Limbaugh is an entertainer on top of being a political figure.
whitenegro88 1 year ago
You're so right! I am a really stupid faggot. I have been waiting so very long for someone to tell me that; now I know. Thanks so much.
I just didn't know that Penn would be okay with the crap that Limbaugh says about people concerning race, and other idiocy. For the moment, just to give Penn the benefit of the doubt, because I really support his calling bullshit on astrology and superstitious crap, and I think he's really funny, I'll assume that he just doesn't appreciate all the junk RL says
aReasonableMan12 1 year ago
He says he agrees with him on a lot of points, not every point, and really, who gives a shit? The friend of my enemy is not my enemy... or some other nonesense.
JoeDeceiver 1 year ago
neal bortz!! other than he is a fucking mystic!!
carveawoodeneye 2 years ago
Ditto's Penn.
JediFarce 2 years ago 2
Good for you Penn. You're not a sheep. Make your own decisions. Most intellects do.
archemedes314 2 years ago
the problem with limbaugh is you either like him or you don't. nobody i've ever met says i like him sometimes. i suppose penn would be the first person. personally i can't like him, but good for you penn for finding the good in him :-)
wesker723 2 years ago
Don't you think he is sucking up to you and trying to get your endorsement so your viewers will listen to him?
PT Barnum had a line for you " a sucker is born every minute".
ickybird 2 years ago
I thought Penn would be smart enough to see through Rush and Glenn. Guess not.......
alwysatthegym 2 years ago 3
Conservatives shouldn't care about most things that they do. Adults should be left to make their own decisions about several issues like drugs, porn, and sex partners. Guns are clearly mentioned in the Constitution, so a real conservative shouldn't involve the government so much in people's lives
NJburbsSeeker 2 years ago
I wonder what Penn thinks about immigration and the various issues that surround it like boarder control, illegals, enforcement, etc.
I suspect that most people who actually have listened to a republican like rush speak about the topic would find them selfs agreeing. It just requires them to drop the "republicans are all racists!" bull that gets bandied about.
Penn, your absolutely right about Rush. I think you would enjoy his show if you gave it a shot.... just take him in small doses.
JuryDutySummons 2 years ago
@JuryDutySummons
Watch his Bullshit episode about illegal immigrants haha.
JsquaredP 2 years ago
Yeah, I have since I made that post. :)
JuryDutySummons 2 years ago
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funboy7979 2 years ago
Man if the republicans would just drop the religious right crap and the anti-imigration BS they would womp the nanny state "we know whats best for you idiots" "be a servant to Obama" idiot dems.
agnostaxian 2 years ago
I think you're absolutely right. Unfortunetly these days, anti-immigration and religion seem to be the core issues of the Republican party, with smaller government maybe a distant 3rd.
Maytag99 2 years ago
May, You are exactly right. I am actually a Christian but it disgusts me how people try and use their "Christian" credentials to manipulate religious folks to get elected, even Obama pulled that card but the GOP are masters at it. It is funny that the guy who wrote the declaration of independence would not get elected today just because he wasn't a Christian. Jefferson was a Deist in the enlightenment tradition of Voltarie. Being religious does not mean you have good political sense
agnostaxian 2 years ago 2
Correction: Republicans = anti-ILLEGAL immigration. Got it?
FaganRoberts 2 years ago
@FaganRoberts Anti-Illegal?
pennsays 2 years ago 4
they're building a highway in texas going straight through mexico, it actually goes through to canada, republicans dont care about immigrants cause they have this idea of "the north american union" republicans have been avoiding steps toward immigration efforcment since this immigration issue got raised. facts are there
dodgedart74 2 years ago
Hahaha come on. Who is building it (specificly, not vague "them"). No contractor has put a bid in. No money has been set aside for it (it would cost a fortune). And blw, the democrats control both houses and president so how can the republicans do anything? And they controled the house since 2004. Get a grip.
babaman75 2 years ago
@FaganRoberts You mean Republicans are against Superman? Well, they just lost my vote.
Tanis1Lionheart 1 year ago
@Tanis1Lionheart I meant to state that Republicans have a slightly higher chance of being against illegal aliens than Democrats. But overall both parties are failures in this regard.
Repubs vs. Superman? I don't know where you got that one, but I'll smoke some of that stuff with ya!
FaganRoberts 1 year ago
@FaganRoberts 'Illegal Alien' = Superman. He wasn't born in the US of A and I never heard about him getting naturalized. WHERE IS THAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE KA-EL?
Tanis1Lionheart 1 year ago
@FaganRoberts Uh-huh. Right.
pumarunner88 1 year ago
@pumarunner88 Uh, huh. Right, I agree. I think on balance Republicans are a bit better on the illegal alien issue than Democrats. But both have a poor track record overall. Republicans like cheap labor for industry and Democrats appeal for the liberal votes alien "immigrants" provide. Everyone else is left cleaning up the expensive mess. But as I eat my steak burrito, I'm sure I'm just preaching to the choir.
FaganRoberts 1 year ago
it would be nice to have REAL campaign finance reform
spiderwebb33 2 years ago
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homero24 2 years ago
badtown, there's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about the separation of Church and State.
Congress shall make no laws respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise of religion.
Rush does agree with that, what he doesn't agree with is the liberals, with the help of the ACLU, who think it means saying Merry Christmas in the Post Office should be outlawed.
You should really read more then Daily Kos and The Huffington Post.
guamley 2 years ago
I don't care if the people in the post office say "Merry Christmas" either. Christmas isn't even treated as a religious holiday in this country anymore, it's as secular and commercialized as can be. We really have taken the Christ out of Xmas, so that's why I feel people in the post office saying Merry Christmas is perfectly harmless.
Maytag99 2 years ago
It's not a matter of Republican/Democrat/Libertarian/etc.. The fact is that both are rational thinkers that believe in honest intellectual debate. It's inevitable for such people to support, and even have a liking for, each other. That's a basic precept of civilised behavior.
georgexr40 2 years ago 2
torchy, you hit the nail on the head. Most everyone who doesn't like him just doesn't get him. That's ok. We do, and we <3 RUSH!!
jaecen94 2 years ago
Democrats and Republics are both corrupt. Any one with a brain can see that.
Elestareus 2 years ago 23
After voting Rep. up until 2008, I now see that there are a number of people in and around the party who are sociopaths trying to stir up controversy for their own twisted amusement. Rush is one of them.
It blows my mind that this party whips up the less intelligent members of its ranks with buzzwords like "socialism" and "death panels", purely for the thrill of watching the chaos which follows.
Shame on Rush, Fox News and shame on Penn for not recognizing evil when he sees it.
jsteiger2228 2 years ago
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rambone5 2 years ago
"I now see that there are a number of people in and around the party who are sociopaths trying to stir up controversy for their own twisted amusement. Rush is one of them."
I don't agree with Rush on most things but it's obvious to me that he is passionate about what he believes in.
You're a cynic for chalking up people who don't agree with you to nothing more than "sociopaths."
causticmario 2 years ago 2
Penn looks at things for what they are. He doesn't care about what's taboo or not taboo trendy or not trendy. He just looks at the logistics of things and agrees with people who's logic fits his. And he agrees with a lot of Limbaughs ideals and views. He doesn't know much about limbaugh other than what he has taken from their topics of discussion. And democrats do the same thing in radio and TV. They did it with Bush by making him out to be the antichrist.
Brettwbeyer14 2 years ago 2
Rush is passionate about what he believes and so are you. I guess that's one of those characteristics he saw in you.
DrumDTLTE2 2 years ago 14
Penn, you and Rush are both awesome in your own ways.. even if we all don't always agree.. it is good we have common ground.
Alienami 2 years ago
Penn, Penn, Penn. I'm sorry but I gotta disagree with ya on Rush Limbaugh, he's way out there on a lot of things as far as Libertarians go. A statist is a statist is a statist . Rush is just wrong. I'm tired of Libertarians siding with and defending republican types. We're supposed to be INDEPENDENT. But it's okay, you're entitled to your opinion Penn, I still like you, but you can't make me like Rush, sorry. (well Rush the Canadian band, okay!).
ltfallin 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is a Patriot. Call him a Republican, a Libertarian, or whatever. He cares about this country. He is also brilliant and possesses a magnificently healthy ego. Penn appreciates this: small minds just can't stand the man... probably because they can't understand half of what he says or means!
torchy3615 2 years ago
You're full of it. Why would anyone call Rush Limbaugh a Libertarian??? He doesn't want drugs to be legal, he doesn't want gay marriage, he's against Separation of Church and State, and he had no problem with Bush's spending on the Iraq War. No sane person would call him even a real conservative.
Wake up, Rush doesn't love this country, he loves the corporations.
badtown88 2 years ago
ive listened to rush and i cant believe penn is kissin his ass........
ocolet1964 2 years ago
Yea, I don't get it. Penn always praises guys who he admits he's barely listened to. It's odd.
badtown88 2 years ago 2
Do you really think it matters? Everyone wants to see a fight, but Penn is praising Rush, like Rush was praising him. Penn genuinely likes the way Rush speaks and likes some of the intellectual things he says. Who cares?! If we can all put aside our differences & encourage people for what we do think are strengths, our country (and the world) would probably be a little better for our children to grow up in....good for Rush and Penn! You have to judge from your own experiences,
lalunaloca04 2 years ago 3
Penn Jilette = Rush Limbaugh with chin pubes.
bumpyjjeans 2 years ago
Saw you at Rave Theaters a while back , always loved your house most unique in Vegas . Love your Pink Cars !
JoshuaPaulHollenbeck 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is actually a Libertarian, if you take time to listen to his show. He believes in small government, low taxes, is against "equality" things like affirmative action, and is for maximum freedom for all.
I really think you two could be great friends because you and Rush are both AWESOME!!!
GeorgeBushLicker 2 years ago 4
Rush is a Conservative. The values you listed, save it for affirmative action are Conservative. I think most Libertarians are Conservative and they do not know it. Remember we Conservatives are Conservatives before Republicans.
SiY11 2 years ago
Wow, I just lost a lot of respect for Penn. It's hard to believe Penn would side with Rush on his views as he tends to challenge dogma.
smartin807 2 years ago
You do understand what he said right? Penn is a libertarian and like most libertarians he's a free market capitalist. Now he says he doesn't listen to Rush, and he said he only listened to like 20 minutes, but I'm sure the 20 minutes or so delt with free market issues, and probably shrinking government in some manner. You can't hate on the man just for that.
HeatForce 2 years ago
I still respect Penn although my beliefs on things like affirmative action are different (because of who I am- don't get me started about stones in the river and stones in the sun) because he's pro-Free speech but not hateful, Penn is thoughtful. Rush Limbaugh is mostly hate speech. Rush Limbaugh seems to be 60% hate, 40% prescription drugs. I may never agree 100% with Penn (but pretty close to it) I will never agree with Limbaugh. ...wait, where was I going with this?. ..Whatever.
princesstamika 2 years ago
I think a great deal of what Rush says is perceived as hateful, but in reality it's more like the Bill Maher style of sarcastic speech that is intended to be jokes, not unlike Penn's work (who differentiates jokes from actual serious topics)... I used to listen to Rush while eating lunch between classes in college, and his style of political humor and satire was a welcome change from the typical "establishment" humor that gets mean spirited too easily (and takes itself FAR too seriously..)
mechafenris 2 years ago 2
RUSH IS SATAN'S ARSE PIMPLE... QED.
AugustArps 2 years ago
Oh Penn, you and Rush should be friends!
joesparks1 2 years ago 2
Fuck Bobby Jindal, Fuck Rush Limbaugh, but Penn is right in this video about Rush being better than the leftist globalist free-speech hating bastards.
libertarianjury 2 years ago
Rush is overwhelmingly factually wrong most of the time. Rush is friends with Oxy & Cotton. Rush is a big an asshole sober as on Opiates.
drvitore 2 years ago
Rush is a parasite who makes his own countrymen stupider for a living.
He has no respect for reality and simply exists to tell a select group of easily brainwashable morons what they want to hear.
Think about it: Limbaugh propogandizes using brainwashing tactics on a daily basis: repetition of ideas ad nauseum, dehumanization of the other side, arbitrarily assigning ethical and moral values, threatening those who don't agree with him
Rush isn't your friend, he's your puppetmaster
cyrusfx1 2 years ago
Rush is entertaining for the most part, he makes me laugh, think, and gets my younger brother to engage in "intelligent" conversations . Personally I prefer Glenn Beck ;)
5/5 Penn and hope to see more of you on the Glenn Beck program!
LordAlucardsbride 2 years ago
Rush is the Howard Stern of politics. He's a shock jock who uses the news. His personal beliefs are usually not the main focus of his show, what he says on his show are purposely extreme right wing quips to challenge the extreme left but honestly he's not as far right as he wants to appear.
Now some one like Bill O'reilly is just a plain moron with no way to defend but I believe that Rush gets the reactions he's looking for based on some of the extreme stuff he says.
ShadowWolf346 2 years ago
LOL. That's awesome Penn. Welcome to our underground family. Ya' know. "Underground" as in mentioning that you agree with him in public or at parties... That takes balls and you've proven once again you got'em!
BroadcastAds 2 years ago
I'm 24 and enjoy listening to Rush... not saying i completely agree with everything he says but hes thought provoking and thats what counts. And I do have a lot of respect for you Mr. Jillette. It's the people that bad mouth him and have never listened to him that get on my nerves!
DimitriNakos 2 years ago 5
Rush Limbaugh is a lunatic!
elennon720 2 years ago
i agree!
millennialgirl 2 years ago
RUSH IS RIGHT. El Rushbo for Presidente!
johnnondrowsyd 2 years ago
As a non-registered libertarian, i'd liek to inform you that the libertarian/Limbaugh overlap of agreement is about 70% of the time. Mostly, it's things like abortion and the war on drugs that libertarians and those true to heart republicans disagree on.
SailorGoth 2 years ago
Actually penn is against abortion, as is many libertarians and atheists like christopher hitchens.
indians4bobbyjindal 2 years ago
i consider myself a libertarian, and ive never once met one who supported abortion
ChocoboTheftAuto 2 years ago
Wrong, he said that he thinks it should be legal up to point where the fetus gets brain waves and says the idea that life/rights should begin at conception is insane.
FatherTime89 2 years ago
How am i wrong i just said he was against abortion, brain waves begin well before the third trimester, that would make roe vs wade the biggest genocide/murder bill passed in the history of our country. Not to mention its unconstitutional for a fed govt to go to a state and say that you cant ban late term abortion, which is what that bill essentially said. By the way christopher hithcens is against all abortion.
indians4bobbyjindal 2 years ago
Well an abortion before brain waves is still called an abortion.
Sorry for the confusion but whenever someone told me they're against abortion they meant it at any stage.
FatherTime89 2 years ago
Me too.
FightDPower 2 years ago
libertarians are not against abortion, they just do not believe tax payers should pay for them. Why would an atheist be against abortion?
millennialgirl 2 years ago
actually most libertarians are against abortion, i.e ron paul, bob barr; pen teller is in terms of brain waves, and brain waves occur as early as a month. In terms of atheists a lot of prominent atheists are against it liek chriss hitchens, and dawkins, and many prominent atheists throughout time, b/c they look at it in a rational persepective, trust me if you ever seen an abortion, its just sick and inhumane, its said that our society would accept it,
indians4bobbyjindal 2 years ago
define "rational perspective" also every person you mention is a MAN! its a surgery its suppose to be messy. Yes abortion is eliminating a living organism technically but i am pro-choice if it is before 12 weeks. And no i do not care what the fetus can do at that point. 1st trimester abortions are fine. I do not see men being legally bound to be present a child's life so why should there be so much controversy surrounding a woman's choice. its inhumane to be a deadbeat dad also.
millennialgirl 2 years ago 2
You rock.
princesstamika 2 years ago
thank you
millennialgirl 2 years ago
Not nessecarly true. Aborotion is probably the most difficult social issue that anyone can argue about. There are pro-life libertarians and there are pro-choice libertarians. I do, however, think that a lot of people agree that late-term aborition (unless the life of the mother is in danger or possibly rape), should not be allowed. I saw a few online; most disturbing one i saw was a fetus still in the embrionic sack moving and wiggeling with it's hads and feet, tossed into a trash can.
HeatForce 2 years ago
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Rush Limbaugh is ignorrant and doesnt know anything
zacky89 2 years ago
HAHAHA! Those that don't know anything are those that aren't able to articulate a case against those that do. He has been successful. Have you?
Americaisgreat123 2 years ago
Rush has Mr. Snerdly who talks in his ear. Rush is okay, most of the criticism of him comes from people who take him out of context or don't listen, as one point of view. The trick is to listen to as many voices as possible and then make up your own mind, be a true thinker.
sivazh 2 years ago 4
Penn and Rush both kick major ass.
bloominbilgerat69 2 years ago 8
Rush is an awful human being.
frybacon 2 years ago
frybacon, I didn't know Rush Limbaugh was a human being... :)
robertghouston 2 years ago
As Al Franken says "Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot." How clever. Lacking a rational argument or even a salient point... resort to a personal attack. Works every time.
garst59 2 years ago
You did Larry King? He's old and skinny I thought you liked a little meat on the bone...
jpcquadnet 2 years ago
i would be a libertarian too... if there was any chance in hell a libertarian candidate could win. the main reason i tend to vote republican is that i'm concerned the government will take away our personal liberties in the name of saving us from ourselves. what a bunch a crap! and as far as rush being a racist. that's also crap. listen to his show a couple of times and you'll see. he is a bit of a sensationalist, but is that really so bad.
jik747 2 years ago
Nice.Though Rush is a CONSERVATIVE not just a republican.The republicans are just the lesser of two evils.
jimmmmybrady 2 years ago
I'd love to see them run Limpdick and Sarah Palin in 2012.
Bury that fuckin' Party once and for all.
rs6ted 2 years ago
Amen, how can you possibly give Rush Limburger these kudos?? Wonderful speaker your ass, he has proven time and again his racist-type mentality and his ignorance to global warming (I see Rush, ALL the scientists are WRONG), his disdain for immigrants, etc etc. All the worst of the white man's burden.
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
You say "he has proven time and again his racist-type mentality". I'm assuming you have a specific example? Post it, time and date.
deddog 2 years ago
Oh that would be too easy to slide in there for you wouldn't it? Can you post ANYTHING to counter it? I know one thing he called Edward James Almos "a mongrel'.
Defending Rush?
Please.
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
Try reading this SLOWLY. If he ever said anything, even once, that would prove what you claim, state date, time and context. I'm actually trying to help you here. When did he refer to Almos as "a mongrel"? BTW, it's not my responsibility to debate any general claims you make about Limbaugh unless you provide specific facts to back what you post. I'll try looking it up while I wait for your response.
deddog 2 years ago
Yeah general claims....hahaha. That's a good one.
Try and subterfuge your inane logic w/ fact, it was a statement he made on his television show. Otherwise if you wish to call me a liar so be it but I would not take the time to rewrite this if I desperately had to lie to you but you will say so nonetheless, I'm sure of it.
Read that SLOW.
Insult and suddenly you've disputed someone?
Good luck.
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
Hey, you made the claim in your post. It's got nothing to do with what I wish for, what would you call someone who throws out accusations or 'facts' without any specific reference? If you want to call it a lie, rant , or sensational remark, I don't care. BTW, I'm assuming the 'mongrel' you're refering to would be Edward James Olmos?
deddog 2 years ago
I gave a specific reference, just because someone doesn't allot specific times, dates and whereabouts you catagorize it as a lie or hearsay? I would not need to lie b/c I don't care that much over Rush, apparently you do.
Edward James Olmos, thank you for the spelling corrections.
JB
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
You have to have specifics that can be referenced by your opponent in any argument. It bolsters your position. Particularly when it's irrefutable. You gave me Olmos, refered to by Limbaugh as 'mongrel' and that you remembered it from Limbaugh's TV program. His program ran in the early '90s. Hard to research that unless you're a member of his website. I did see some sites that mentioned something about it, but I would consider them less than credible. And context, context, context.
deddog 2 years ago
Yes yes yes, Im well aware if this debate crap and actually I have better things to do than sit on here with you about it. Maybe it "bolsters" your ego or something (not unlike Rush) to feel you have won something like this but you will nevertheless hardly convince me or others who see through the shadowy veneer of Limbaugh. I saw enough of his TV show to know, research that.
Good day to you.
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
It ain't about winning anything. Cya.
deddog 2 years ago
I understand and Im sure you're probably a reasonable guy, just differences of opinion and that's what makes this country great.
Take care sir.
JB
Thejbirdy 2 years ago
Yes because when you can out debate someone, or challenge their ideas, just call them a racist and you win the argument right? You idiot coward.
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dickrumsfeld 2 years ago
I'm a Conservative with some Liberatarian leanings as well...So I thought this was refreshing to see that the main influences I like from each camp can find some common ground...
honeeproducer34 2 years ago
I am excited that more and more entertainers are coming out and supporting conservative American values. We need to be proud to be American again and stop telling the Arabs how sorry we are...NOT.
drjohngold 2 years ago
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Obama is an AssClown and Rush will no doubt be our Next President !
America will be completely disgusted of Obama in another six months , even the Blacks !!!
2BrokeG 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is a piece of shit!
pomeroy82 2 years ago 2
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I've been saying for a long time that conservatism is much closer to libertarianism than most conservatives and libertarians want to admit. The biggest differences I see are on the issues of national defense but on most domestic issues we are on the same page alot. Kudos to you Penn for having the stones to say you agree with Rush on some things.
megamaniac76 2 years ago
"The enemy of my enemy is not my friend." - Penn Jillette.
Why is it that someone as horrifically wrong as Rush Limbaugh on everything else, someone whose positions on just about everything else, can still be liked by Penn Jillette? Why is Penn suddenly toeing the line when it comes to lunatics like Limbaugh and Beck?
razieldumas 2 years ago 7
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Penn, you're a smart motherfucker. Just gotta throw that shit out. Flame war: continue.
Albeleo 2 years ago
LMAO
>>>"Bears repeating: Penn Jillette is Rush Limbaugh with chin pubes and a bad one-process dye job. Samo right wing whack job propaganda."
funboy7979 2 years ago 5
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Rush is a Conservative. Not a Republican. He (and I) did not support Republican candidate John Mccain. He (Mccain) and Obama are both taking this Country to Hell (It just would have taken longer for the older Mccain).
beck274 2 years ago
if he truly didn't suppourt McCain he should've endorsed a third party candidate, but he refused. I'm a fan of Rush still but damn it just even if 30% of registered republicans voted 3rd party last election it would've gave us a more conservative/libertarian republican party.
sockmess 2 years ago
This is the 2k, and the new racism is all about class (which Rush Lacks). The color green. But we still have Biggot slime balls from the jim crowe days still alive trying to spread hate. This is a new generation and a different world now. He needs to climb back into his rat hole or come up with a new model to bring back up a failing party. I've probably been where your trying to go, so YOU grow up.
tresdizz 2 years ago 2
I'm still trying to figure what the hell that post means.
The actual leader of the republican party is black by the way, you do know that dont you?
If Rush was as much of this racist as you say, he would be bashing Micheal Steele as much as he criticizes obama. Once again, solidly prove Rush is a racist and stop with these ideologue claims, Find a youtube video or link to something where Rush actually attacks a specific group SOLELY based on the color of someones skin, or other preference.
wolfv11 2 years ago
I said Rush was racist. Skin color does'nt mean anything to me. Ignorance doesn't begin with him or end. Michael steel and alot of other Republicans are not necessarily biggots. I'm speaking about Rush and his blind followers.
tresdizz 2 years ago
I used to have the utmost respect for you and teller since I was very young. Now that I know that you support this racist biggot you disapoint me. Not all conservatives are racist, but limbaugh is abusing his freedom of speech. I thought that you were the magician at one point, but I guess the tricks have been pulled on you this time.
tresdizz 2 years ago
Oh get over yourself "I used to have the utmost respect...." did you actually listen to what Penn said?
I would like you to specifically site sources that prove the racist bigot nature of Limbaugh? And show me one credible source that shows hes "Abusing" his freedom of speech.
And if positive comments about how someone is good at what they do makes you no longer enjoy "Penn Says" "Bullshit" or cool magic tricks, then your a baby who needs to grow up.
wolfv11 2 years ago
I dont have to site any sources, because all you have to do is listen to his radio shows and millions of Americans who feel that he is an out of touch conservative who talks shit about others who he dosen't like or disagree with, all while using racial under tones and hiding it under the excuse of being an "entertainer". Ive been following this guy off and on since the early 90s, and hes only gotten worse. you dont understand because he dosen't talk shit about you though, huh?
tresdizz 2 years ago
If you cannot prove what exactly your claiming without actual facts (i.e I want to see you posting a pic of Rush in a cross burning ceremony) then you are merely stating your personal opinion on what this guy says. This claim of "all you have to do is listen to his radio show" well then I want you to listen to his monday broadcast ( I shall too, ) and I want you to site all these "Racial undertones" because right now all your doing is making claims and not proving anything.
wolfv11 2 years ago
As I've said earlier about some peple being out of touch, whats racist to me is fine with you. If your not a female, you don't get how some comments spell biggot. If your not gay you don't know when a straight guy hurts your feelings infront of millions. I don't have to prove anything, once again. you have the same sources that I have, so look it up. And while your at it look up the def. of racist and ask any of the above cultures (black,fem,gay) how they feel about Rush.
tresdizz 2 years ago
People in minority groups probably have a distorted image of Limbaugh.
And yes you do need to back up your claims, because you are making them and I am challenging you to back up your data. But of course you act like every other liberal coward and claim someone is being racist or offensive when they challenge you. Lets focus once again on Rush since that is what we are talking about here. My challenge for his monday broadcast still stands.
wolfv11 2 years ago
Rush is simply Howard Stern on the opposite end of the spectrum. He is an entertainer and is damn good at what he does. But since he comes from a more conservative point of view he gets attacked with the usual "Liar" "Racist" "Homophobe" comments. The only reason liberals and other "interesting" people will bash people such as Rush for a failure in values in morals, is because they themselves have no morals. Rush is honest and speaks from his point of view with what he has seen in life.
wolfv11 2 years ago
Exactly wolfv11! Couldn't have said it better myself
jsbud333 2 years ago
Such a typical republican you are. Everyone who disagrees with rush has no morals?
mclev 2 years ago
"Typical Republican"? Id love to hear and explanation for that.
That is not exactly what I said, and meant. the reason why people will bash rush (and similar people) for a failure in morals, i.e. drug use, and perhaps his divorces, because the discriminating individual them self has no morals or values and therefore its easy to scrutinize another person if they fail at their own morals, and they cant be held up to the same standards themselves since they themselves hold next to no morals.
wolfv11 2 years ago
Actually it's rush who is the leader of the party of "family values". Since people like him are so critical of their fellow Americans and all our horrible flaws, it's only natural that people will point out his obvious hypocrisy due to his drug usage and divorces. It's funny to listen to many talk radio shows and how they bitch about single people being stupid, irresponsible, and lazy, while the spokesman for their party has been divorced 3 times, and has no children.
mclev 2 years ago
Rush is not the leader of the republican party, he is a guy who babbles into a microphone in Florida!
You claim how its "funny to listen to many talk radio shows..." how often have you actually listened to rush to make such a bold statement of what he talks about. Do you actually listen to the show or just watch youtube clips and news clips from left wing media sources that edit and take things out of context?
wolfv11 2 years ago
Both actually , in response to your last question. Rush babbles into a microphone, and then all the republicans just blindly parrot everything he says instead of thinking for themselves. He is in a way the leader of the Republican party, just not in an official capacity. It would be pretty naive, however, to think that many of these right-wing radio hosts are not getting some money from the GOP to carry their dirty water for them.
mclev 2 years ago 3
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Do you have any proof of what you just said or are you just making a presumption here?
wolfv11 2 years ago
No, i could be wrong. It's just seems that when a person has a huge media platform and uses that platform for the soul purpose of promoting one particular political party, that the party might be paying that person. Sorry, but i'm just a very skeptical person.
mclev 2 years ago
Rush does his diatribes alone so that nobody can call him out on any of his falsehoods, hypocrisy, and venomous smearing. I can't believe someone as skeptical as Penn would endorse a shit head like Limbaugh based on 20 minutes of listening and some compliments. I'm really disappointed. Regardless of your politics, Rush is bad for you. He makes millions for causing conservatives and liberals to hate each other through mountains of lies and double standards. Penn, do your homework on him, please.
chubbyruckus 2 years ago 3
Rush sucks pig shit through a straw. The man was an oxy addict who went down to another country and came back caught with a shit load of viagra. Then he goes on the radio and preaches about the evils of drugs (evil is a word he loves by the way, and imo misues) and Christian morals and values. Fat fuck, I can see in my head how he lives his sundays, pop some oxy smoke a joint sit on the couch with a bucket of chicken and then go to his radio station and slander everyone he saw on tv that morn.
seestickglue232 2 years ago 3