how does it feel to be insecure? haha homophob haha. im not gay and i can live i peace with them why can u? you must be retarded. its ok. lol. and u know the gays are ever going to stop or even go away at that...so you are stuck with them...but keep telling yourself you won haha. might i suggest a genocide of gays? it would please you better.
Marriage is a privilege, not a right! However, heterosexual marriage is protected by the federal government. Look up the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 and tell me I am wrong! You will not get any more "privileges" if you get to call your unions marriage than if you call it a civil union or a domestic partnership! The only reason you want to "legalize" same sex marriage is to mess with other people's religious RIGHTS! Religious freedom IS a protected right under the U.S. Constitution!
yes religion is protected, but if the federal govt is going to recognize marriage then we should give marriage to everybody including gay&lesbians. otherwise leave it up to the church and keep marriage out of the federal government. Also Union do not get the same benefits as a marriage otherwise atheists would get unions and not marry.
Why are we arguing equal rights over a FETISH. There are alot of fetishes in the world. Should I yell descrimination if I want to marry my mother/sister? Let's give petifiles rights to marry. Heck, I want 10 wives. Maybe I was born with all these fetishes. Shouldn't I get the same rights as a jewish black woman? You have a right to sexual fetishes within reason. Claiming civil rights based on a fetish is going too far.
a Fetish? you understand that these people dont choose to be gay right? what do u think attracts us to others? its impulses in our brain. homosexuality isnt a fetish but nice true. U can just say u hate gays and that would be more honest.
marriage is a fetish now? gee, a while ago it was sacred and therefore exclusive only to the unqueer. i don't think i have any fetishes, but i still married my girlfriend and we're living the same wonderful quiet life we've lead for the past 8 years. so i'm not real sure what your criteria is, but please let me know if we need to be doing something more exotic in order to fit in with your crowd. thanks.
I never refered to marriage as a fetish. Just sexual preferences outside the "norm". I'm not even knocking sexual preferences. I just don't think you should be able to claim special rights for what ever perversion you may have.
"special rights for perversions"? ??who's doing that? where the heck do you live? are you in the United States? prop 8 was about marriage equality. The Supreme Court upheld the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution--that's it. no hocus pocus, nothing scarier than that. i really don't get how preferences outside the "norm" got into this argument. we are talking about one marriage license per 2 adult people here, right? if not, then you must be referring to something i don't know about.
then why did u ever bring up the fetish topic?you are trying to cover up what u said. Gay is something you are born with. Do you choose how you feel for you significant other? do you feel those butterflys on command or any feelings of happiness? No you dont so in that sense Gays and Lesbians cannot choose how they feel towards other either they are human like us heteros and we should not ban them from marriage because of the random act of being born
so we can bring up law and religon when ever we want.
what r u going to tell God on judgment day when he tells you that you went against his word..
the fact is gay isnt normal, fine let them h ave a relationship, i dont care, but i dont want them to act like a regualr couple. its not going to happen..
yes on 8 doesnt take away any rights from gay ppl they can file for domestic partnership.
and the Under God in the pledge and the In God We Trust on the dollar bill and all those sayings in our government are simple sayings of belief. They DO NOT take rights away from others and the DO NOT force anyone to believe one religion or the other so ur arguement has no bearing to what ur saying at all.
Finally the domestic partnership DOES NOT include the same benefits as marriage does so no its not the same. Again u still have nothing to say that is solid.
God made us heterosexual not homosexual. THERE i just proved it... there is NO GAY GENE..well why if im a murder and it makes me happy to kill some one? why cant that be the law?..
or why if i like to smoke weed and thats my happiness .. why cant they make that legal?..
u know thats true u just have nothing to say.
why wud i ever wanna change i know im right.
i dont want my brain to be filled with garbage..
did u also ever consider y they said "UNDER GOD" in the plegde of allegiance?..b/c
well maybe because murder takes away the right to life you idiot. Weed is practically legal in california and i dont mind. u didnt prove shit because u just inserted ur beliefs again which again goes against our secular government. Dont listen to the garbage if u dont want to hear it but dont go hating people for it and excluding them thats just wrong and what are you going to tell "GOD" when ur at the gates about ur hate for his creations? They are still human dummy.
yes African americans are a race but it was just an example. number two...gays CHOOSE to be gay? Thats the number one agrument and im glad u said something because there is NO proof whether or not it is a choice or a biological factor they are born with. number three...how am i discriminating against christians? was it my comment about seperation of church and state? cuz that actually the law. number four...murder is taking life...marijuana is a drug and prostitution well thats sex but how...
african americans where born that way thats there race,
homosexuals choose to be that way...
so in not discrimination....
Oh and furthermore why are u discriminating agains christians?...ur a hypicrite..
and about the law..
in the declaration of independence it is stated that you have the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness, yet if that was the case we could have everthing legal including marijuana, prostitution, and murder; becuase it might make someone happy.
..does the act of marriage..LOVE compare at all to anyone of those acts u listed? So ur saying gay marriage is like murder? wow. and u are allowed to vote? haha. i agree people like u can not be changed ever.u try to twist what others who oppose u say and make it seem like they are the bad guy.i really like ur view of me as a discriminator but i havent voted or proposed a prop saying christians shouldnt get married. we have a secular government meaning we have seperation of religion and our laws
ok so u are goin the religious route. our government is supposed to be secular meaning church and state should be seperate. u forcing ur beliefs on others by excluding them is just wrong. thats what truely is wrong. and normality is only what u say it is. why should u play god here and tell others what is normal and what isnt? are u really that intolerant? do u go around saying u dont like african americans too? i dont get it. its just plain hate and all u have are excuses.
YES on 8. From a secular point of view, gay marriage has an impact on straight marriage rights, which of course is a bedrock traditional institution. There is a good reason why American society is built around the traditional heterosexual home. As a societal stabilizer, it deserves a special place in our national life. Homosexuality is an action, an alternative. But the U.S. is under no obligation to change the traditional legal definition of marriage so everybody can feel good about themselves.
A secular point of view? Im sorry im confused. First u say ur view is secular meaning seperation of church and state but yet u have voted on a prop that discriminates against homosexuals because of ur traditional beliefs of marriage which i assume stem from some sort of religious background of yours. Once again the yes on 8 people won...but really have no real reason why? just say u hate gays... i would have more respect for u if u were honest.
NO ON 8!!! WE WILL FIX THIS!!! It is unconstitutional! And BTW- I'M STRAIGHT AND I SUPPORT GAYS! I took my kids-who are 5 and 1- to a gay rights rally so screw you! Stupid homophobic assholes!
everytime you disagree with somone u cant bring up the whole "kids teach" issue..its like..ok now i have to be your kids parent?...i mean why is it ok for kids to be taught that strait people can marry...its NOT about ur kids...what ur kids are taught about the world is your business...u cant just make everyone conform to what u want ur kids to be...and what about gay kids huh?...think about it..what ur saying is EXACTLY what fascism is...wat s wrong with teaching non-discrimination in school?
first of all the prop does not include teaching gay marriage in school. that is a complete lie made by the yes on 8 side. its actually the only argument u guys have. second of all if it ever did come to that why dont u be a responsible parent and teach ur kids about these issues? Im sure u will talk to u kids about drugs right? well u have the right to take a side concerning gay marriage and if u feel the need just tell ur kids its not ok. dont discriminate because u are a lazy parent
Silly Californians, YES ON 8 Really? jesus wake up and get the hate out of your hearts. how does gay marriage effect anyone one bit? Im striaght and i support gays and lesbians, We will get this turned around. NO ON 8
I was there. In fact, I was the organizer! Thanks for coming out everyone. And thanks for actually leaving tonight so the cops didnt have to get the tear gas! lol
yes on 8
we won ha ha ha
vasyakin 3 years ago 3
how does it feel to be insecure? haha homophob haha. im not gay and i can live i peace with them why can u? you must be retarded. its ok. lol. and u know the gays are ever going to stop or even go away at that...so you are stuck with them...but keep telling yourself you won haha. might i suggest a genocide of gays? it would please you better.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
Marriage is a privilege, not a right! However, heterosexual marriage is protected by the federal government. Look up the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 and tell me I am wrong! You will not get any more "privileges" if you get to call your unions marriage than if you call it a civil union or a domestic partnership! The only reason you want to "legalize" same sex marriage is to mess with other people's religious RIGHTS! Religious freedom IS a protected right under the U.S. Constitution!
Gwynevar 3 years ago
yes religion is protected, but if the federal govt is going to recognize marriage then we should give marriage to everybody including gay&lesbians. otherwise leave it up to the church and keep marriage out of the federal government. Also Union do not get the same benefits as a marriage otherwise atheists would get unions and not marry.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
I was asking about the true motive, not why you are obsessed with the same sex.
I think what you meant to say is, when someone runs out of valid arguments, they resort to wild accusations & vulgar comments.
yespropeight 3 years ago
HAHA see everyone...a yes on 8 person only has so many bullshit excuses and then they run out revealing their true motives of hate.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
and that would be?
yespropeight 3 years ago
Why are we arguing equal rights over a FETISH. There are alot of fetishes in the world. Should I yell descrimination if I want to marry my mother/sister? Let's give petifiles rights to marry. Heck, I want 10 wives. Maybe I was born with all these fetishes. Shouldn't I get the same rights as a jewish black woman? You have a right to sexual fetishes within reason. Claiming civil rights based on a fetish is going too far.
yespropeight 3 years ago
a Fetish? you understand that these people dont choose to be gay right? what do u think attracts us to others? its impulses in our brain. homosexuality isnt a fetish but nice true. U can just say u hate gays and that would be more honest.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
"its impulses in our brain"
Sounds like the definition of fetish to me.
yespropeight 3 years ago
haha well than maybe u should look up fetish in the dictionary because u have a twisted understanding of what fetish is.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
marriage is a fetish now? gee, a while ago it was sacred and therefore exclusive only to the unqueer. i don't think i have any fetishes, but i still married my girlfriend and we're living the same wonderful quiet life we've lead for the past 8 years. so i'm not real sure what your criteria is, but please let me know if we need to be doing something more exotic in order to fit in with your crowd. thanks.
junkforkaryn 3 years ago
I never refered to marriage as a fetish. Just sexual preferences outside the "norm". I'm not even knocking sexual preferences. I just don't think you should be able to claim special rights for what ever perversion you may have.
yespropeight 3 years ago 2
"special rights for perversions"? ??who's doing that? where the heck do you live? are you in the United States? prop 8 was about marriage equality. The Supreme Court upheld the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution--that's it. no hocus pocus, nothing scarier than that. i really don't get how preferences outside the "norm" got into this argument. we are talking about one marriage license per 2 adult people here, right? if not, then you must be referring to something i don't know about.
junkforkaryn 3 years ago
then why did u ever bring up the fetish topic?you are trying to cover up what u said. Gay is something you are born with. Do you choose how you feel for you significant other? do you feel those butterflys on command or any feelings of happiness? No you dont so in that sense Gays and Lesbians cannot choose how they feel towards other either they are human like us heteros and we should not ban them from marriage because of the random act of being born
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
This nation was built under God!...
so we can bring up law and religon when ever we want.
what r u going to tell God on judgment day when he tells you that you went against his word..
the fact is gay isnt normal, fine let them h ave a relationship, i dont care, but i dont want them to act like a regualr couple. its not going to happen..
yes on 8 doesnt take away any rights from gay ppl they can file for domestic partnership.
Im finished.. =)
Neenna1 3 years ago
and the Under God in the pledge and the In God We Trust on the dollar bill and all those sayings in our government are simple sayings of belief. They DO NOT take rights away from others and the DO NOT force anyone to believe one religion or the other so ur arguement has no bearing to what ur saying at all.
Finally the domestic partnership DOES NOT include the same benefits as marriage does so no its not the same. Again u still have nothing to say that is solid.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
God made us heterosexual not homosexual. THERE i just proved it... there is NO GAY GENE..well why if im a murder and it makes me happy to kill some one? why cant that be the law?..
or why if i like to smoke weed and thats my happiness .. why cant they make that legal?..
u know thats true u just have nothing to say.
why wud i ever wanna change i know im right.
i dont want my brain to be filled with garbage..
did u also ever consider y they said "UNDER GOD" in the plegde of allegiance?..b/c
Neenna1 3 years ago
well maybe because murder takes away the right to life you idiot. Weed is practically legal in california and i dont mind. u didnt prove shit because u just inserted ur beliefs again which again goes against our secular government. Dont listen to the garbage if u dont want to hear it but dont go hating people for it and excluding them thats just wrong and what are you going to tell "GOD" when ur at the gates about ur hate for his creations? They are still human dummy.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
This conversation could go on and on.... But why feed pearls to pigs??..
so just calm down chill out u have ur views i have mine..
u DEF wont change mine so there is no point.
Neenna1 3 years ago
yes African americans are a race but it was just an example. number two...gays CHOOSE to be gay? Thats the number one agrument and im glad u said something because there is NO proof whether or not it is a choice or a biological factor they are born with. number three...how am i discriminating against christians? was it my comment about seperation of church and state? cuz that actually the law. number four...murder is taking life...marijuana is a drug and prostitution well thats sex but how...
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
african americans where born that way thats there race,
homosexuals choose to be that way...
so in not discrimination....
Oh and furthermore why are u discriminating agains christians?...ur a hypicrite..
and about the law..
in the declaration of independence it is stated that you have the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness, yet if that was the case we could have everthing legal including marijuana, prostitution, and murder; becuase it might make someone happy.
Neenna1 3 years ago
..does the act of marriage..LOVE compare at all to anyone of those acts u listed? So ur saying gay marriage is like murder? wow. and u are allowed to vote? haha. i agree people like u can not be changed ever.u try to twist what others who oppose u say and make it seem like they are the bad guy.i really like ur view of me as a discriminator but i havent voted or proposed a prop saying christians shouldnt get married. we have a secular government meaning we have seperation of religion and our laws
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
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ok then if its not about the kids then its the fact that we dont want homosexuality to be legal here.
its going against Gods word and its wrong.
its not normal..
it never has never will...
so wont u guys stop trying to make it normal.
Neenna1 3 years ago
ok so u are goin the religious route. our government is supposed to be secular meaning church and state should be seperate. u forcing ur beliefs on others by excluding them is just wrong. thats what truely is wrong. and normality is only what u say it is. why should u play god here and tell others what is normal and what isnt? are u really that intolerant? do u go around saying u dont like african americans too? i dont get it. its just plain hate and all u have are excuses.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
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YES on 8. From a secular point of view, gay marriage has an impact on straight marriage rights, which of course is a bedrock traditional institution. There is a good reason why American society is built around the traditional heterosexual home. As a societal stabilizer, it deserves a special place in our national life. Homosexuality is an action, an alternative. But the U.S. is under no obligation to change the traditional legal definition of marriage so everybody can feel good about themselves.
us4000ad 3 years ago
A secular point of view? Im sorry im confused. First u say ur view is secular meaning seperation of church and state but yet u have voted on a prop that discriminates against homosexuals because of ur traditional beliefs of marriage which i assume stem from some sort of religious background of yours. Once again the yes on 8 people won...but really have no real reason why? just say u hate gays... i would have more respect for u if u were honest.
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
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Drilling oil is in! Throw the Democrats out!
us4000ad 3 years ago
NO ON 8!!! WE WILL FIX THIS!!! It is unconstitutional! And BTW- I'M STRAIGHT AND I SUPPORT GAYS! I took my kids-who are 5 and 1- to a gay rights rally so screw you! Stupid homophobic assholes!
kerahalterman 3 years ago 6
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it does affect us becuase it will be taught to our children...
we dont want it to be ok for gay marrige
Neenna1 3 years ago
everytime you disagree with somone u cant bring up the whole "kids teach" issue..its like..ok now i have to be your kids parent?...i mean why is it ok for kids to be taught that strait people can marry...its NOT about ur kids...what ur kids are taught about the world is your business...u cant just make everyone conform to what u want ur kids to be...and what about gay kids huh?...think about it..what ur saying is EXACTLY what fascism is...wat s wrong with teaching non-discrimination in school?
jessemissesblondy 3 years ago 7
first of all the prop does not include teaching gay marriage in school. that is a complete lie made by the yes on 8 side. its actually the only argument u guys have. second of all if it ever did come to that why dont u be a responsible parent and teach ur kids about these issues? Im sure u will talk to u kids about drugs right? well u have the right to take a side concerning gay marriage and if u feel the need just tell ur kids its not ok. dont discriminate because u are a lazy parent
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
Silly Californians, YES ON 8 Really? jesus wake up and get the hate out of your hearts. how does gay marriage effect anyone one bit? Im striaght and i support gays and lesbians, We will get this turned around. NO ON 8
ihaverhinophya 3 years ago
props..lol..no pun intended
jessemissesblondy 3 years ago 8
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yeahh i saw myself =]]
YES on 8!
i got ina fight wit a lesbo.
she punched me so i jumped on her bwhaha
shorty10244 3 years ago
i hope you get punched again..im a guy...IL PUCH U BITCH
jessemissesblondy 3 years ago 7
PROPOSITION 8 has PASSED!!! YEA!
YES ON 8!!!!!!!
bigtrees0 3 years ago
congradulations on being a fascist
jessemissesblondy 3 years ago 5
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I saw my self. YEEE. Yes on 8 suckas.
911GT3PWR 3 years ago
YES ON 8!!!!!!!!
cbogg23 3 years ago
hehe...i saw miself there!
cbogg23 3 years ago
this was the best rally! thanks to the people who gave our free starbucks (sebastian!) pizza, and panchos to NO ON 8'ers!!!!!
Ke11z 3 years ago
I was there too. It was seriously an amazing experience.
There may have been more Yes on 8 people, but its not about quantity, its quality.
No on 8
Alera7Angel 3 years ago
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no on prop 8
peacepixi 3 years ago 3
I was there. In fact, I was the organizer! Thanks for coming out everyone. And thanks for actually leaving tonight so the cops didnt have to get the tear gas! lol
ThomasRowbottom 3 years ago 4
I was there too! (i was the one passing out free starbucks hot chocolate to all the "NO'ers"!! NO ON 8!!!
SebastianMichael30 3 years ago
I was there! VOTE NO ON PROP 8!
Bralex94 3 years ago