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  • salam alaikum dear brothers , Please take a look at this calculation in this video , About 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,19,­20,30,40,50,60,70,80,99,100,20­0,1000,2000,3000,5000,50000,10­0000, i added it all few times, It gave me not 163146 . But it gave me 161846 . ( Divided to 19=851821052632 ) may be I was excited and could make mistake, Please some one take a look then inform to the person who posted this video , to take another look , I am a Muslim and no doubt about Holy Quran.

  • you forgot the number 33 it appears in surah al kahf or surah al baqara

  • Don't forget the miracle of 9-11, it was carried out by 19 blessed individuals

  • @wakbangbang - yes, agree akhi

  • Oh that was directed at @justin

  • what is a mistake is your poor grasp & use of language

  • if u see smething similiar with sme thing......... it doesnot mean tat it is revealed by god...

    smetimes it cn be a mistake

  • hello dear frnd tis is a big bull shit

  • brother always disable comments whenever you put videos regarding islam.

  • CONTD But the poor Muslims have to convince themselves that Islam is indeed the religion of God and Allah is God. For that they have to fool themselves. They desperately try to manufacture miracles and find "signs" of Allah in the most bizarre things and genuinely they fall for it. In the absence of logic they content themselves with magic and childish tricks. The miracle indeed is not the Quran but the fact that 1.2 billion people read this nonsense and do not realize that it is a hoax

  • Islam is a religion bereft of commonsense that is utterly against reason. Logically challenged Muslims try to confirm their faith with fancies and puerile beliefs. Only a cursory look at what they regard as miracles reveals the deplorable intellectual bankruptcy of the benighted followers of Muhammad.

    The entire Quran is full of errors - scientific errors, grammatical errors, historic errors and logical errors. Anyone, with a grain of intelligence is surprised at the stupidity of this book.

  • "Government of Peace"

  • باسم الله الرحمان الرحيم has 21 letters, not 19. that's how the phrase is written in arabic.

  • It just means 19 chief angels, and they in control of the trials and tides of all affairs. The interesting part is that if you just change one word, and the whole formula would go random. The number 19 is written in the stock market too, and I have check some of its relevence. The Master Number is truley " 19 ", and the Christian WD Gann have also said it is the Master Key Numner in trading the markets.

  • I'm sorry, but this is not a miracle!!!

    There is many many other scientific precisions in the Holy Qur'an.

    I appreciate your fascination of codes and numbers, however your not proving anything with adding and multiplying numbers.

  • God is not a religion.

    learn and move on to manifest.

  • If I wasn't a Muslim, I would see this and think "oh that's neat" and walk away.

    The Jews say the same thing about their Torah, and yet we Muslims would say the Torah is corrupt. These "number tricks" sound sophisticated, but they're not going to change anyone's heart.

  • @farhan00 only love changes the heart and that is what Jesus is all about. :) He proves it through your life when you accept Him and have faith;.. not by numbers but by life!

  • @hibamazhreh1 'Esa (Jesus) did change the life of many. I agree, this numbers thing is rather silly.

  • Hi Simonz,

    This is something that has been discovered when people started to count all the words in the quran.

    The Quran also has a lot of verses which has been verified as scientifically correct. In fact there are many scientists who have converted to Islam because of the verses in regards to science.

    Allah makes a very bold comment in the Quran Chapter 2 verse 2, "This is the Scripture whereof there is no doubt..."

    So let us try to find errors. If there are any, its not from God.

  • @kibrisli7

    It always humors me when people say that if there are any errors, it's not from God. The reason I have such trouble believing in that religion is the fact that if he made humans in the image of him, wouldn't he put in *some* filters so there aren't such horrible people that dog fight, abuse animals, and murder and attack and create wars. Free will? The excuse. Did you know that way back when settlers first came to america churches were just a way to make money? Sorry, it isn't real.

  • so, you can find mathematical equations based on 19 in the quran? well, is there anything else you find? i mean strictly objetivly speaking, is it like the code found in the tora? i am just qurious.

  • "... and Allah keeps count of all things" 72:28

  • remember 19 was the number of Johnny Unitas - one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL

  • you are exaturating the kuran is a reminder...

  • Personally, I would have been more impressed with differential calculus, but then again I'm an infidel.

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  • What is the name of this nasheed? Thank you in advance :).

  • @DrDiyar24 Ya 'adheeman by Ahmed Bukhtair I think. You're welcome. Salaam.

  • 1 is the first number and 9 is the last. 1 9.

  • This website is good for you who like the Mathematical Miracle of Islam.............. numerical19.tripod.com

  • watch?v=mzrO4yp808c

  • Masha ALLAH nice video, Thanks for sharing....

  • Soooooo Happpppyyyyy That im a muslim!! Allahu Akbar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @NefertitiSoulja999 I know right! Alhamdulillah indeed!

  • @NefertitiSoulja999 May Allah bless you,amin.

  • Excellent presentation. The cat is out of the bag. Math Miracle of Quran will prove to everyone that every word in the Quran is from God.

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  • @kibrisli7 u made a mistake .. at 2:12 .. its 19 X 14 = 266 .. not 19X4

  • watch?v=o6wB-uSGwy0

  • allah likes truth 19x4 doesnt equal 266...

  • @InsomniusPFA - Your right, 19 x 4 is 76. To get 266 you have to multiply 19 x 14 to get 266.

    READ THE HOLY QURAN INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IMPOSE CALCULATIONS, FORMULAS AND EQUATIONS ON IT! Allah makes everything easy and clear to understand, for those who have eyes to see with and ears to hear with.

    I posted a video called "Over it is Nineteen" on my channel (ineed2knowthis) which explains 19 (for those who are still curious and have not read chapter 74 of the Quran). watch?v=NxCHiqQzfS8

  • @ineed2knowthis

    brother im not sure if you are directing me to read the Quran or folks in general. but i am a muslim. and im not taking shots at the presenter merely correcting him, brothers should assist one another. especially if the subject we are speaking on is Allah(swt) and/or his word. the best way to spread islam is truth. alot of good points were raised but it seems the presenter was a bit overzealous in his presentation. or perhaps brother should just revise his work.

  • I've personal researched on the 19 miracle and many verses in the Qu'ran was missed and Rashad Khalifa was covering up the mistakes with lies to empower himself as a messenger.

    He was a idol worshiper. If you dive any deeper, you'll be disapointed to know that he tirelessly rewrites the translations to make satan a pseudo god.

    Beware of this a great scam and avoid submission org.

    19x is a coincidence that confirms a exsisting CRC but the real formula is yet to be discovered.

  • who found this 19 miracle? lets hear what islam tells about beating around the bush.

  • Assalamu alaikkum.Mashaallah nice work.But in numbers 300 is missing.This is mentioned in Surah Kahf and the total of verse must be 19*14.Jazakallah.

  • 19 x 4 = 266 ? Could you please clarify that for me..I believe 19x4=86 not 266. I believe there is a 19 code in the Quran,l but your calculations are a bit confusing.

  • I see now that you actually meant : 19x14= 266 .

  • What is the song called that's playing throughout the video? Thanks. Great vid.

  • @peep1954

    Ya Azeema, Ahmad Bukhatir

  • @kibrisli7 Thanks!

  • wtf mate..

  • oh my, this is pretty laughable, this guy cant even spell. Im sorry but for so called unchallengable proof, please pull the other 1. Ever heard of bible code or moby dick code. I feel sorry for the fairytale believing masses, brainwashed and unoriginal.

  • @lemieux654 .. how can you be brain washed when we are asked to find ask and investigate everything ?? ... well .. the challenge is in your hand .. prove that book is wrong. proof all the no. of miracles in every aspect if life (Bees, Ants, Iron, Clouds, Embryology, Astronomy, Universe creation, rotation, cure of blind eyes "later discovery to white water on the eyes disease" ... and no. of facts in it is in countable) .. who is brainwashed here ?? BETTER THINK AGAIN ...and Challenge me

  • @lemieux654 plus .. who claimed that the bible don't have prophecies ??? in fact the bible have prophecies for the Quran and Mohammed (PBUH) (read Isiah 29 and Isiah 42 Gen 22 Deut 33)... you mission as Worshiper to God is to approve last revelation from God and don't reject it .. even if the other revelations are around (Why .. cause it was corrupted by hands of men to make people away from the true faith) .Muslims are just showing the way .. put away your pride and investigate with ur heart

  • I'm a Muslim- I converted at 19 throught my own studies... I am not a close minded person. Even as a Muslim this video is really not any source of proof whatsoever. You can find mathematical anomolies in lots of things. Go watch the movie 23 it shows you another example.

  • You've put 19 x 4 = 266.

    You mean 19 x 14 = 266.

  • wow.. how unbelievably stupid and gullible you guys are

    this is how retarded you guys look.. check it:

    2 times 2 = 4

    2 plus 2 = 4

    OMG must be a miracle from god!!!

    but wait...

    if you add 1 to 3 it ALSO BECOMES 4!!!

    and if you subtract 1 from 5 it becomes 4 YET AGAIN!!!

    This is indeed proof its from god.. let's blow ourselves up now for god's sake...

  • @lesterdiamond5 come on.............Tell me any other than he number 19 that can divide any of these numbers given. ANY. 19 is the only number that can divide all these you Dumb ass

  • "Change ONE word and the miracle all falls apart"

    Rashad Khalifa omitted the last two verses of sura 9 to get MORE 19-divisibility.

    "There are so many more equations with 19 in the Quran"

    Of course. And there are 19 times more that are not 19-divisible.

  • @kereng5 You don't get it. By omitting the last two verses of Surah 9 the 3 instances of letter "Qaf" will go as well. And there are 798 "Qafs", which is 19 x 42. So with 795 Qafs the code will break. GOTCHA!

  • thats impressive but its very arrogrant and ignorant of you to say that this is the only true religion. Islam is great but every religion offers something good. There is no right or wrong religion, its different belief systems and different ways to reach god..thats all it is. I can point out errors in the quran but thats not the point.

  • @Uhjay

    Every religion can offer SOMETHING good, but it is arrogant and ignorant to believe that they are all true religions. Why would God offer more then one religion for people to believe in? Rather they may have started from something real and the people have changed them.

    Its so clear other Holy books have been changed by people.

  • @kibrisli7 You believe the Quran is unchanged because it says so, right? It was oral tradtion back then, and it wasnt written down until a looong time after the prophets (saw) passing. I agree some religions have been changed. But the basic message is still usually in tact, that doesnt make them untrue. Besides, Islam isn't the only religion that hasnt been changed.

  • Maybe it hasnt been changed but the only thing to prove that is the word of it right. Thats why yo ucan't say other religons are fake, because all u have is the word of it and people. And it was was people who nararrated the Quran long after it was delivered too.

  • 1 Corinthians 8:6

    yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

  • @kibrisli7 Well said :D

  • @kibrisli7 Whatever has happened in the world, god has willed it. Therefore, for some reason (one not known) god wanted three main religions to dominate. Remember, he cannot make mistakes. He is perfect and can do anything, don't contradict this point.

  • @Uhjay @Uhjay Hey ..I am Christian and in the bible it says the only way to God is through Christ...BUT let me get this clear.. you are saying God is on a mountain and we are at the bottom and there are many ways to reach him right? wouldnt it be nice if He came to us!?....let me introduce you to Jesus Christ. He came to this world to serve not to be served. He loves us all..

  • @Uhjay no religion is wrong, really. Its their followers which make them wrong.

  • @Uhjay your an idiot, go an try to pull any errors, lets see, and il answer you. your really dumb...

  • @AProudMuslim786 I shouldnt even be responding to one of ur arrogance since u cant even make a mature response to someones opinion, but heres an example. I'm waiting!

    Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

    Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

    Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days

  • @AProudMuslim786

    Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days

    The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-

    Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?

  • @AProudMuslim786

    Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…

    Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …

    Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days

    Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law.

  • @AProudMuslim786 In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?

    Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

    Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

  • @AProudMuslim786Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?

    Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning

    Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?

    Im waiting for ur fabricated rationale!!

  • @momoshiftknob in the first verse you said, about the thousand years, he is talking about humans with God, but in the second verse you said about the angles, he is talking about the angles with God, humans and Angles are diffrent things...please watch DR.ZAKIR NIAK because he is AMAZING with Islam because he has studied it alot, im just 15 lol :) but yeh im also Muslim :) please reply to my answer bro.

  • @momoshiftknob in the first verse you said, about the thousand years, he is talking about humans with God, but in the second verse you said about the angles, he is talking about the angles with God, humans and Angles are diffrent things...please watch DR.ZAKIR NIAK because he is AMAZING with Islam because he has studied it alot, im just 15 lol :) but yeh im also Muslim :) please reply to my answer bro.

  • @momoshiftknob in the first verse you said, about the thousand years, he is talking about humans with God, but in the second verse you said about the angles, he is talking about the angles with God, humans and Angles are diffrent things...please watch DR.ZAKIR NIAK because he is AMAZING with Islam because he has studied it alot, im just 15 lol :) but yeh im also Muslim :) please reply to my answer bro.

  • it is not important to find out which religion is true, but everybody must know that what is going to be after death, according to islam if a man couldnot find out his god in this world he will have to live in HELL FOREVER & EVER

  • MASHALLAH ! BEAUTIFUL!

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  • Wow! What a BS. All these years I wasn't sure but now that I saw this clip all became very clear; Quran is the word of Allah :)(which itself exists only in the minds of dellusioned people who choose to keep themselves ignorant but never stop spreading their ignorance to others.) It is not surprising but always amusing to see how far some people go to prove their unprovable theory, with science no less. What about 72, 9, 7?Are they also the proof? I should buy a lottery ticket w/those numbers.

  • Wow! What a BS.

    You think this is BS .You should read BIBLE and the Torah .

  • Yes I know..."Religion" itself is the source of these idiocies whether it is Christianity, Judaism or Islam; it's all the same. Of course, it is in our DNA to search for some hidden meaning in just about everything in life and nature. And if we can't find it we just make it up as we go and sell it to unsuspecting, well meaning but ignorant people and help to keep them ignorant by stupefying them further. I guess we are not as evolved as we think, as species.

  • 56;

    The problem with you is that you think 6 billion people on Earth are Idiots and you are the Smart one .of course Animals have NO IDEA About the Quality of Humans .Although they Know the reason for their beings ,but you don't .If you think you are made for NO REASON ,then you are No better than a piece of Rock.

  • You have a twisted logic and understanding; Where did I say that 6 billion people are IDIOTS? In fact what I said was that as we evolved we will be able to live our lives free from these myths and lies and a lot happier. You sound like you never read or listened to arguments against your position. I suggest Christopher Hitchens among many. However your blind belief (faith) is not my concern and you are free to live your life as you please.Just don't ask me to participate in your delusion..

  • 56;

    ARE YOU BLIND? This is You !

    Yes I know..."Religion" itself is the source of these idiocies whether it is Christianity, Judaism or Islam;

  • 56;

    If you think All these Faiths are MYTH .You are a Moron.And If you are Happy with what you have ,then What are you doing wasting your time on you tube ??

    Go and live with your Atheist family.

  • I have every right to express my views in anywhere I choose, and expose the lies and the tyranny of religion over people, believers or non believers alike.I know these are all myths and lies. It is time for the humanity to get rid of this stone age mentality. Many evolved people are now waking up to the truth about religion. But it looks like you are too far gone for it. Unfortunately you are not alone.That is the problem we are dealing with albeit slowly(Good things takes time)

  • 56;

    AND that is were you are WRONG .yes people are waking up ,but they are turning to ISLAM ,for the fact their books are touched by People who wrote them .Get this GOD only will take back to his kingdom those who choose,the rest are DIRT to him ,he collects the Most VALUED ones.

  • @ 55... you are calling it a myth... what a ignorant person you are...for you life is just waking up spending all day at work or leisure and then sleep and next day.... thats it.... so u shouldnt worry about these things.. and dont waste ur mind here.. go and have fun... for which you are created...

  • @ 55 but its not only ur prob...coz u will believe only the things which u can see with ur eyes.. so forget everything... ur state is called atheism. keep this thing in ur mind ..

  • I have studied just about all the religions carefully to find a kernel of truth in them. All full of nonsense and man made rules to perpetuate the authority of one class of people over another. They are divisive, violent, lacking moral values, etc, etc. I do feel bad about people who submit themselves blindly to those bronze age mentality and rules in this day and age.

  • AND they all WASH THEIR FEET,Rub their neck,their chest.CLEAR CHANGES TO RULES OF ALLAH.

    فَٱغۡسِلُواْ وُجُوهَكُمۡ وَأَيۡدِيَكُمۡ إِلَى ٱلۡمَرَافِقِ وَٱمۡسَحُواْ بِرُءُوسِكُمۡ وَأَرۡجُلَڪُمۡ إِلَى ٱلۡكَعۡبَيۡنِ‌ۚ

  • oUR sUNNI BROTHERS HAVE CHANGED A FEW WORDS ,THEY DO NOT WANT TO ADMIT .here is one.O ye who believe! When ye rise up for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands up to the elbows, and lightly (((rub your heads and your feet up to the ankles.)))

  • You think Quran could be changed?

  • May Allah bless this brother.

    As you see at the end he post .JUST CHANGE ONE WORD AND THE MIRACLE FALLS APART.

  • y are you multiplying 19 with random numbers ex: 19 times 6 = 114 soooo whats that significance with the number 6???you just keep multiplying 19 with random numbers to get to your goal unless you can explain to us the significance of the other numbers.thanx

  • why don't u erase the this video after knowing the mistakes in it !? either u don't read the comments or u wanna harm islam and muslims .. read jerrybob876 comment from 11 month ago.

  • and what does that have to do with Quran,the bible got no proofs, Quran contain 1000ds proofs, if u deny one , an other one come and astonish u, keep denying this wayhowever, u are only deceiving urself....Peace

  • I didn't say this was the Bible I said "like the Bible." People can try to find a pattern in anything and then say, "oh it's a miracle" How is that a miracle? Do you even know what the word miracle means? Finding a pattern in a book is creative but nothing more...

  • brother thee are mistake in this vido

    1. 9+19=28 NOT 27

    2. 19x4=76 19x14=266 i fink u were spose to write 14

    3. i added all the numbers u no 1+2+3+ etc i got 161846 u wrote 162,146 then u rote 19x8534 = 163,146 but it = 162,146 in this is wrong any way i am a muslim i do belive but can u clear up these mess pls

  • n 19x4=76 not 266 plz explain i dnt understand

  • salam there is a mistake in this video sura 9 , 19 chapters after it = 28 sura not 27 and if you could tell me were in sura 27 or 28 bismillah apears 2wise by da way i a muslim plz let me no asap so i can forward tis vedio t all my brothers n sister

  • Mashallah.. what is the name of the Naat being played? Its Amazing!!

  • download the nasheed from rapidshare com / files / 141036061 / Anasheed . mp3 . html

  • Whatever...

  • Maybe the Americans were afraid of a Nuclear response from N. Korea if they tried to take out Kim Jong Ill. As for Iran, maybe the Americans were trying to give the Europeans an opportunity to convince Iran to give up its nuclear program before making a war decision. Anyway, it is not necessary to speculate about N. Korea or Iran to disprove your claim the Americans invaded Iraq for oil. It doesn't make economic or logistical sense.

  • Maybe the Americans were afraid of a Nuclear response from N. Korea.

    This makes sense, just pick on a country that cannot defend it self. Has no nuclear weapons !

    "Americans were trying to give the Europeans an opportunity to convince Iran to give up its nuclear program before making a war decision"

    No opportunity given in case of Iraq, just bypass the UN , make a coalition of the willing and invade Iraq for Oil.

  • By the Way, Americans giving Europeans a chance for past two decades ? I guess you have just started reading news this year !

  • The verdict is still out on what the Americans will do to Iran. It is possible the Americans will take out the Iranian nuclear facilities in the waning days of Bush's administration. But, I think it is much more likely if John McCain becomes president.

  • well, the verdict was out for past 2 decades to stop Iran form building Bushehr nuclear plant.

    It is possible the Americans will take out the Iranian nuclear facilities in the waning days of Bush's administration ?

    Yet to be seen !

  • Threat of Nuclear Weapons, North Korea even tested the nuclear weapon. Yet no attack ! Poor Iraq did not have even the Missiles that can reach USA but North Korea does.

  • Again, just how are the Americans stealing Iraqi Oil? How are they sneaking it out of the country? If so, then why are the paying $145 per barrel from Saudis, Canadians and Mexicans? Since you haven't been reading the news lately, let me inform you: Iraq has a "government" and an "oil ministry". If what you say has one shred of evidence, why isn't the opposition in the Iraqi parliament jumping up and down?

  • Ok why attack Iraq, not China, not North Korea, not Iran (making nuclear weapons), not Cuba (sitting for past 60 years or so) All regimes of dictators ?

  • The Americans perceived a threat (real or imaginary) from Saddam that the did not from China or Cuba. A war for oil can be dismissed easily: 1) There is no way they could ever recover the costs of the war even if they stole all the Iraqi oil that is pumped from now until the next 50 years. 2) The logistics of hidden oil theft is outright impossible.

  • what was that threat ?

  • I think the American administration really believed Saddam was trying acquire WMD. He had biological and chemical weapons in the past. He used them in the Anfal campaign against the Kurds and against the Iranians in their war. He had a nuclear program before the Israelis bombed it. It turned out to be false, but I think the Americans believed it at the time. Saddam was pretty good at faking it. In the afterglow 9/11, I don't think the Americans wanted to take a chance.

  • You are flat out wrong. Iraq is moving right along. The security here is getting pretty good. The parliament is being moved from the Convention Center to outside the Green Zone in September. The Iraqi Army just wrapped up a successful security operations in Basra & Maysan province all without American/ British soldiers. American soldiers aren't guarding oil infrastructure at all. It is being guarded by the Iraqi Facility Protection Service.

  • Just how are the Americans stealing Iraqi Oil? How are they sneaking it out of the country? If so, then why are the paying $145 per barrel from Saudis, Canadians and Mexicans? Since you haven't been reading the news lately, let me inform you: Iraq has a "government" and an "oil ministry". If what you say has one shred of evidence, why isn't the opposition in the Iraqi parliament jumping up and down?

  • The iraqi government is in the Green zone only. Even if they step outside the Green zone, they will be killed. Also, so called 140 thousand personals in Iraq, most of them are guarding the oil fields and pipe lines.

  • Just how are the Americans stealing Iraqi Oil? How are they sneaking it out of the country? If so, then why are the paying $145 per barrel from Saudis, Canadians and Mexicans? Since you haven't been reading the news lately, let me inform you: Iraq has a "government" and an "oil ministry". If what you say has one shred of evidence, why isn't the opposition in the Iraqi parliament jumping up and down?

  • Iraq has a government ? That government is in the Green zone only.

  • Saddam was goof for who--Kurds? Shia? You must mean for the 20% Sunni elite.

  • If US is so keen about so called "democracy", why don't they go and attack china, where human right were again suppressed in Tibet.

  • I got a new miracle number in Islam: 1,500 Muslims have blown themselves up in Iraq, 34 Muslims herded 300 small Christian children into a gym in Beslan, Russia, and murdered them all, 29 Muslims were involved in blowing up civilian commuter trains in Spain, 19 Muslims flew plane loads of people into buildings, 4 Muslims blew themselves up on London trains and one Muslim convert tried to blow up his shoes on an airplane. The miracle his how Muslims say Islam is about peace with a straight face.

  • 19 is code of the Holy Quran.der is much much more than diz video.Peace b on all of us

  • 1,500 Muslims have blown themselves up in Iraq ?

    I believe to protect there country from US invasion.

  • What American soldiers are at those Baghdad markets, petrol stations, masjids, restaurants, hotels and people standing in line for work. Have you not read any news during the past six years?

  • The conditions are worst there now than during Saddam's era. Plus, i believe diverting there attention from Afghanistan to Iraq makes me believe that Oil was the motive for Iraq invasion.

  • This is like the Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy, where the secret to life the universe and everything was 42.

  • From any beach with coarse sand, it is possible that you can find some sand grains exactly weighing one gram. How many you will get? It depends on how long you spend to collect the "required" grains. Then you present each sand grain exactly weighing one gram, claim that the beach is miracle and one gram is miracle number. IF you do not know how many sand grains I discarded which are not fitting in my scheme, you may think it is a miracle. Thus, the Quranic "miracle 19" is nonsense.

  • some sand grains exactly weighing one gram ?

    your assumption is not correct hear ... go to the beach and weight them until 1e-16 i.e. Machine precision.

  • Your clueless

  • You're clueless.

  • what else can i expect from you ?

  • 4- those who follow the true way would go to heaven those who follow Satan, hell is waiting, messenger brings word of allah, Satan is trying to make people drift away from the truth,

    this was short, believe it or not it's your problem,

  • Myth and nonsense.

    Prove Satan exists. Prove hell exists. Prove heaven exists.

    You can't, so why should I simply accept your claims as true?

  • i already proved to you God exists, but u're too blind and hard headed, if you say larry the toad is created the universe, i'll ask you to bring me his holy book t oread it,

    i neverasked you to admit something, you haven'teven read the koran and u're talking about it

    how old r u by the way ?

  • Where was your proof that your god exists?! The Koran is NOT proof of your god, or the Bible is proof that the Christian god exists. Or, that means that the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.

    My age is not important, and I won't give you any ammunition to belittle me. You might notice that my comments are reasoned and spelt correctly, so glean from that what you will.

    And yes, you did, 3 days ago: "well, admit that God exists, he created the human being and all this complex univers".

  • i didn'tbase my proof on Koran to proove to you that God exists, read again my first posts and u'll find it,

    talking about spelling, it's not a grammar conversation here also you have to know that english is my THIRD language

    oh i said admit that god exists ! well don't admit it, admit what you want , it is your problem ( i said it many times nbut udon't understand )

  • You haven't provided ANY evidence. According to Muslims, Allah is beyond our universe. Since we cannot detect anything outside of our universe, no one can ever provide any evidence that ANYTHING outside of our universe actually exists. Given that simple premise, NO ONE CAN PROVE THEIR GOD EXISTS. A book written by a man is not proof. The fact that Earth exists is not evidence of any god. It is mere conjecture and BLIND FAITH that you think it to be true.

  • about teh evolution that u believe in or accept, check out this :

    h t t p : / / christiananswers . net / q-eden / edn-thermodynamic . h t m l

  • Ah, the oft-told misconception of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. That would apply if the Earth were a CLOSED SYSTEM. It isn't. We get energy from our Sun. The Earth is NOT a closed system, thus not everything decays, because our energy is replenished with the energy of the Sun.

    I don't *believe* in evolution, I accept it as provable science because there are many scientific facts to support it. There are NO scientific facts that support ANY god. Anything assigned to your god is mere conjecture.

  • 3- after that God ordered Adam and his wife ( who were created after adam ) to live in heaven sa sthey want but they shouldn't eat from a forbidden tree, Ibliss with his special power could convince adam and his wife to both eat from this tree to be an eternel kings and angels, once they did it, they were banned from heaven to earth, and God told them they will there live and die and be reincarnated the day of judgment,

  • Myth and nonsense.

  • finally, you CAN't prove that there is no God, all you believe in are theories

    get a life dude,

  • What can be asserted without evidence, can also be dismissed without evidence.

    You claim there's a god but cannot prove it. Why do I need to disprove your claim?

    If I say Larry the Toad created the universe, you would ask me to prove it. So, why don't you try and disprove my claim about Larry?

    You cannot. Thus, your point is absolutely ignorant and meaningless. Disprove every other religious idea then, go on.

    I already have a life, thanks. But mine isn't tied to an imaginary friend.

  • 2- he created him and before he put soul into him, he asked all angels and the Satan to bow down to Adam, they all did EXCEPT "ibliss" he refused, God asked him why he refused, Ibliss said that he is better than adam, he was created from fire and Adam was created from dust and water ( mud, i don't have the exact word ), at this moment ibliss was banned from heavens, and ibliss asked for God to let him prove to him that human being don't deserve heaven, God gave him this chance

  • Myth and nonsense.

  • You're looking at life on the planet and thinking how great everything has been designed to fit in the environment, but you have to look at the fact that these creatures evolved, and they are the best fit for the environment they live in. The creatures weren't designed for the environment, they are the ones that survive the best in that environment.

    There are countless examples of poor design. Why do 3000 kids in the US choke on food? Why have just one tube for both breathing AND eating?

  • You can probably find numerical patterns in lots of other books, it doesn't mean it's true. Also, you could change the words to something else and still have a readable book that might say completely different things. What makes Islam true in that case?

    Im sorry, but numerical patterns in a book are not proof of a god.

  • ok check this out: the chapter "al hadid" ( iron ) is the chapter number 57 in quran, it contains 29 verses, if you check the iron phisics properties u'll find out that on of teh four isotopes of iron is 57 Fe, also if you take 57*29 = 1653 the same if you take 1+2+3+...+57 = 1653

    and finally the energie that u need to take away an electron from the 57 fe atom is 2957 J/mol

    remember the iron chapter is the number 57 and it got 29 verses

  • Iron has four isotopes, yes, well done. Why pick 57? It has 54, 56, 57 and 58. It also has nuclide symbols from 45Fe to 72Fe. What you've done is to work out some calculation that makes sense given the array of numbers used in explaining atoms and their properties.

    Your holy book has a large range of numbers available for your numerical trickery to fit.

    In other words, if this text were in chapter 54 and it had 29 verses, it would still fit, but put it in 59 and it would fail.

  • no it wouldnt fit, 57 is the 3rd isotope of iron, and 2957 is the 3rd ionization energy of IRON,in arabic IRON called HADIID, the NUMERICAL VALUE OF HADIID : 26

    (Ha+Dal+Ya+Dal= 8+4+10+4= 26)

    26 Is ATOMIC NUMBER of the IRON

    26 is NUMBER of ELECTRONS of the IRON

    also 57 - 26 = 31 which is the number of neutron for Fe57

    The word IRON found in verse number 25, 29 - 25 = 4 which is the energy level of IRON Fe

    come on, this been written 1400 years ago, it's too much for for a simple coinsidence

  • the text wasn't enough : HADID = h8+a1+d4+i9+d4

    an other thing, i'm not trying to convince you, i'm just tellin you what i know, also, usaid u can find similar things in lotta books, bring me some examples, i'm sure u won't find, and the example of iron it just 1 per million of what it is in the quran, still discovering

    finally : your path is yours and my path is mine

    peace

  • Are you aware that the Koran was written in Arabic? You are using the English alphabet to determine that the Arabic word Hadid all adds together to make the miracle number you seek. Even though you spell it differently in three places: hadiid, hadid and hadyd. Well, what about the Polish alphabet? The Indian alphabet? The Chinese alphabet?

    Once again, your numerical trickery is a load of bobbins.

  • i was sure u would say that, if i were u i would say the same too, well don't take the english alphabet as part of my demonstration, it just something i noticed few seconds after i wrote teh first one and i wanted to mentioned it, forget about it and about all other languages u mentionend it's not my point, the arabic numerical value off course is the point as the koran is in arabic, so u still didn't give a coment about it :)

  • i see u quiet now