O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are faithless, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who detest his will and his son ,” A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. “Proverbs 29:23, The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God, God is not in all his thoughts. Psalm 10:4 “The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way, but the folly of fools is deceit. “Proverbs 14:8
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who have contempt for God and his children, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who abhor his will and his son, you who are bitter, you who are vengeful and prideful, you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience, you who have no regard nor desire for truth, “Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. “Psalm 31:18
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are boastful, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. I will break down your stubborn pride. Psalm 10:3 “For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. I will break down your stubborn pride. Psalm 10:3
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who lack wisdom, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of fools is made known. Proverbs 14:33, As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools. Proverbs 26:9
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are bitter and callous, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who stand before your altar of apostasy, you who pay homage to fools who teach, doctrines taught by devils,”Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18 ” “They close up their callous hearts, and their mouths speak with arrogance Psalm 17:10
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are carnal, you whose folly is wickedness, and you who wear no robe of humility, “These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 1:19, “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6, “He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.” Proverbs 17:20
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are foolish, callous and revel in deceit, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “A prudent man concealeth knowledge, but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness. Proverbs 12:23 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15 “Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.” Proverbs14:33
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are vile, contemptuous and boastful, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.” Proverbs 18:7, “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath I, but the instruction of fools is folly “Proverbs 16:22 “The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for want of wisdom. Proverbs 10:21
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are faithless, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us, for we are not ignorant of his devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11 “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” James 4:4
In Mormonism there are gods upon gods. So many gods Brigham Young, 2nd leader of Mormon Church, did not know how many there were. The Bible says there is and always was and always will be one true God. The one true God says there were no other gods formed before him nor will any gods be formed after him. The one true God has revealed Himself by His creation and His word, the Bible. There is no need for nor are there any other books inspired by the one true God.
The scriptures say that there is "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" Ephesians 4:5 and
"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." Hebrews 13:8. Christ nor His church has ever changed
So, if there is ONE Lord, ONE faith, and ONE baptism. Then why are there innumerable Christian denominations? If they all had the same belief, they would be the same church. So, in every Christian church, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Ephesians 4:5 is not practiced.
@Dr3wcif3r There are many Mormon sects like the Community of Christ, FLDS, etc. The only unchanged Church that can trace its origins and priesthood authority to Jesus' 12 disciples in an unbroken line of succession is the Orthodox Christian Church. The Orthodox Church is the original Christian community Christ founded. The Orthodox Church is the one true faith, the one true church. It alone is the Body of Christ. The LDS Church changed several of its doctrines like polygamy.
John 10:29 also says "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand."
This proves that Heavenly Father & Jesus Christ are one in purpose, in manner, in testimony, in mission. They are one in every significant and eternal aspect imaginable except that They are three persons combined in one substance, a Trinitarian notion NEVER set forth in the scriptures because it is not true.
It is self-evident from the scriptures that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are separate persons, three divine beings, noting such unequivocal illustrations as the Savior’s great Intercessory Prayer, His baptism at the hands of John, the experience on the Mount of Transfiguration, His cry on the cross "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"and the martyrdom of Stephen—to name just five.
@Dr3wcif3r Trinitarian Christians believe that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate persons, but believe in one divine nature. Also, Jesus had two natures. Divine and human. In His humanity, Christ is inferior to the Father. In His Divinity, He is perfectly equal to the Father. Your five points only relate to His humanity.
Joel stated he knows nothing of the LDS church or its doctrine, nor has he thought about the LDS and yet in his mind they are Christian... He was caught out with these questions about the LDS claims to Christianity and you can see it! In his mind, the words Jesus Christ are in the logo, ergo, they must be Christian... WHY does anyone listen to this man?
People who profess Jesus Christ just so stupid. Joel Osteen does NOT have to know about Mormonism to be GREATLY used by God, which he is. Its that the "critics" are angry and jealous, besides being small-minded and judgemental, loveless bags of wind.
Thank you Lord for Jesus Christ and thank You for Joel Osteen!
Your accusations against the LDS Church & against Joel Osteen are FALSE! Mormons don't worship any other gods. Do other gods exist? Who can say? We worship God the Eternal Father, His son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. And as for the Bible, the Bible backs up the LDS Church! The 14th century theory of The Trinity is mentioned absolutely NOWHERE in the Bible. However, the nature of the Godhead is mentioned many times. Polygamy, planet Kolob stuff, all not true. Mormons ARE Christians.
"Hahahahaha....LOL....ROFL...Ha¬hahahaha, you are a joke! Go now and take a shower, lose some weight, and learn to speak better! This is the only way you can become a sister wife"
What about your autority ? , where came from? , are you a new born christian ? Evangelical christian ? , so you are desendant doctrinaly from Luther.....a catholic priest .......think about it if you are able to do that.
@sergioroap ahem... Xcotholic priest... converted by reading the Bible in his own language rather than continueing in the false teachings of men. My authority for example comes from the Holy Spirit and the Bible. At a glance it looks like you are one of those still wrapped up in false traditions of men, most likely of the LDS persuasion.
He [joel] has never really thought about them or considered them [the mormon doctrine or history] .. yet.. in his mind they [the mormons] are [christian]... what ignorance, this man is a joke!
Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
@10290gilmore Your post, "...much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!"
Interesting response you give to my question. A question that was prompted by your statement, “Poor religious people...they see hypocracy in everything but their own beliefs!”
@kjvjay Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
@kjvjay Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
You do not need the Mormon Church for anything. Unless of course you just want to pay them 10% of your total income so you can PRETEND that someday you might, maybe, perhaps, be a god or a goddess to your polygamist god husband.
The way to God’s house and kingdom is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith and Mormonism
If you repent of your sins and believe the gospel then Jesus says to you, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2)
“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
@kjvjay never mind @getdownto311 , she is braindead. You can present all the facts in the world showing her what a cult her church is, and she would still spew out the same shit. She is without a doubt, the biggest fucktard I have yet to see on Youtube. She likes to post incoherent messages on my channel as well. btw, did you see her last response to you? I think it was the longest run on sentence I have ever seen. She shows what an uneducated utah inbred hick she is with each post.
Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
Joseph Smith declared, "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man,....If you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man…”
Joseph Smith’s god is nothing more than an exalted man.
The God of the Bible and Christians is was never a man that became God, but has always and always will be God
@kjvjay you know i can post cherry picked quotes just like you are doing,your comments are just full of deceit,we are christian in every sense of the word you dont get to define a christian sorry,and bashing,mocking,and making somebodies faith totally unchrist-like behavior.
@YouTubricant Hell Ya! Thank you. Who the hell put this on? What does he think he knows. Of course they are. Christians are anyone who believes in Christ. Ha ha What a dope to think he knows so well. It doesnt matter what you call yourself, it only matters in what you do with it.
"In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the children of Ham [In Mormonism this means Blacks] were to be the ‘servant of servants,’
“and no power under heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord would permit them to welter under the curse and those were known to be our religious views concerning them."
This was part of Brigham Young, 2nd false Prophet of The Mormon Church, Sunday Service Massage given to the self-proclaimed latter-day saints, in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Utah, February 18, 1855.
“The Lord” of Mormonism as Joseph Smith declared is nothing more than an exalted man who became a god. Other false Mormon prophets and teachers went on to teach this exalted man god, who is a racist, and a polygamist.
(Part 1/2 Racist remarks by Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle)
“Think of the Negro, cursed as to the priesthood...This Negro, who in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa--If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a SERVANT.”
(Part 2/2 Racist remarks by Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle)
--If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a SERVANT.”
Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle, ”Race Problems – As They Affect The Church” addresses The Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, BYU, Provo, Utah Aug 27, 1954
And thank goodness you r not in charge of this country or I might not have the right to agree with Pastor Olsteen, U would probably have me locked up for being a cult member, HUH I wonder then who would have to be in charge to lock u up for being a true christian, or lock up the jews maybe, or the blacks, or the mexicans, just where does this train stop?
So let me get this straight, Mormons are not christians, u r making that decision for God, judging them, or r u saying God told u they are not true cristians? Either way arent u doing the same thing u claim they r? saying who is saved and who is not and that those people who dont believe the way u do r not saved? Please explain how u somehow have the exclusive authority to make any of these decisions? Seems to me Joel is saying let God be the judge of these things, I agree with him
Comparing what Mormon leader have written and taught and with what the Bible teaches is bringing the dark un-Biblical teachings of Mormonism into the light of the Scripture. If that is embarrassing to Mormons, so be it.
The producers of this video give all the reference for Mormon writings and publication and the Bible to show Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
Joel, what a good man! He is a true disciple of Christ! He actually is comfortable with his faith. If the creator of this video really thinks that he is a Christian they had better think again. Christ brings light not darkness even in the most condemning of situations. This video is full of explicit attacks that are used in the same slander that Satan uses. It brings an awful feel into the room and it has nothing to do with the LDS faith. The producers are wolves in sheep clothing!
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
You do not need the Mormon Church for anything. Unless of course you just want to pay them 10% of your hard earned income so you can PRETEND that someday you might, maybe, perhaps, be a god or a goddess to your polygamist god husband.
The way to God’s house and kingdom is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith and Mormonism.
If you repent of your sins and believe the gospel then Jesus says to you, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2)
“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
There are many gods in Mormonism and Hinduism. “How many Gods there are, I do not know, But there never was a time when there were not Gods and worlds, and when men were not passing through the same ordeals that we are passing through. That course has been from all eternity, and it is and will be so to all eternity”
Brigham Young, 2nd false prophet of LDS, delivered this sermon, in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Utah, October 8, 1859
YAWNNN . Wow its always the same old boring arguments. Same old boring crappy clips. this argument has been going on since the restoration of the true nature and establishment of Christs church. It hasn't stopped the growth. it does not stop the elect from finding the pure light of Christ. You fight in vain against GOD himself. You are free to do so. As we are free to worship. The day comes swiftly when all truths will be made known. Use the whole word of god and they shall be made known sooner
Let Joseph Smith tell you what Mormons believe. "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! ....If you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man…” Teachings of The Prophet J.S., compiled by Joseph F. Smith, 2009, p345.
The exalted man god of Mormon god, whose supposed throne is neigh unto Kolob will not be judging anything.
Of the one true God it is written, “… even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.” Ps 90:2
The God of the Bible and Christians is not the exalted god man of Mormons. He was never a man that became God, but has always and always will exist as The Lord God Almighty.
The Mormon exalted man is a god whom Christians have no need.
WHY EXACTLY SHOULD WE BE SURPRISED BY THIS WHEN HE DANCES AROUND THE 'BIBLICAL' TRUTH AT JUST ABOUT EVERY TURN?? I HAVE YET TO SEE THIS MAN OPEN HIS BIBLE AND READ FROM IT EVEN ONE SUNDAY ON TV, SPEAK ABOUT JESUS UNLESS IT SUITS HIM, TALK ABOUT REPENTANCE AND SALVATION, ETC. IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO 'HIS' AGENDA. KEEP NOTICING HOW IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS ABOUT, "WELL I BELIEVE", RATHER THAN WHAT THE "WORD" SAYS IT SHOULD BE. BIBLE PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED BEFORE OUR VERY EYES FOLKS.
@DerrickthePinecone My church can answer questions that someone has from the reading the bible that probably never made sense to you. Who do you think the "other sheep" were that Christ was refering to in John 10:16? The people in the Book of Mormon. And what the heck do you think 1 Corinthians 15:29 and 15:40-41 mean? The LDS church has answers to these!
@DerrickthePinecone You probably haven't even read the Book of Mormon, and if you have, then you were looking for things with which to bring it down. I respect Joel Osteen and his followers as long as they continue to uphold the principle that someone believing and relying on Christ, is sufficient enough to earn my respect.
@DerrickthePinecone ...so as to prevent STDs, unexpected child pregnancy and to keep sex as it should be used-to procreate and bind together a husband and wife- or the fact that members are asked to donate 10% of their income to the church's welfare program that helps countries suffering from tsunamis or earthquakes and those living in poverty. You make call what we're taught about God blasphemy and capitalize all the words you want, but I know for myself that it's true.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 ...so go ahead & continue to be filled up with "religion." God HATES "religion"! You're pointing out great things, but you ignore what I've pointed out that Mormonism teaches, which goes contrary the Bible. A LOT of false doctrines teach half-truths--sugarcoating The Bible to make it fit their own beliefs--but God WARNS about this kind of thing, saying that people will be 'accursed' for doing this. I've pointed out the error of Mormonism; it's up to you to come to the Truth.
@DerrickthePinecone I'll bet that all the videos you've watched have been nothing but critisms of the mormon church. The best testimony of the Book of Mormon that I have ever heard, was given by Jeffrey R. Holland in a talk called "Safety for the Soul." There is nothing in the world I could say that could change your minds if you're going to put up blocks. Many people have met with Mormon leaders and respect them like the former president JFK and Obama.
@DerrickthePinecone When you say that there is no doubt that we are a cult, what are you implying that my religion is? And if our religion is as 'false" as you claim it is, then why is it that 15,000,000 people belong to it. And how do you explain the fact that over 300,000 new members join each year?
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 Based on statistics, there are 70% PROFESSING Christians in the world. However, just because one states that they're a Christian doesn't mean jack! Many profess to be a Christian, but many don't follow it, nor LIVE it. God says that we TRUE BELIEVERS are His "little flock," & 70% certainly doesn't sound like 70%! The road is indeed narrow. Jesus said, "I will build MY church." He didn't say groups, sects, denominations, etc. True believers are far and wide, my friend...
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 In fact, 70% of those "professing Christians" are Catholics, so what does that tell you? Satan's COUNTERFEIT Christianity is running rampant in this world. Please come to understand these realities/facts. I am trying to get you to understand you are truly in error. Just do the research and come to understand that you're wrong. God said that if a person TRULY seeks the Truth, He will reveal it to them. Believe me, if you do that, you will discover that Mormonism is a lie...
@DerrickthePinecone But here the fact, I'm not giving up my religion. You don't seem to understand that I prayed about it and in my heart I KNOW it's true. I don't care what you say and how many times you tell me that I'm wrong and a lier or whatever, I'm not leaving my church. But what part of the mormon church is most appaling to you: the fact that we're asked not to drink alcohol because it impares your judgement and harms you body, that the youth are asked not to have sex before
@DerrickthePinecone But here the fact, I'm not giving up my religion. You don't seem to understand that I prayed about it and in my heart I KNOW it's true. I don't care what you say and how many times you tell me that I'm wrong and a lier or whatever, I'm not leaving my church. But what part of the mormon church is most appaling to you: the fact that we're asked not to drink alcohol because it impares your judgement and harms you body, that the youth are asked not to have sex before marriage
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 That's understandable. I'm not asking you to "give up" your "religion." You see, the thing that separates true Christianity from "religion" is the fact that true Christ-based, Bible-based, Christianity is full of nothing but Truth. The difference between "religion" and true Christianity is that Christianity is a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ. Mormonism, as I've pointed out via your own doctrine, has contradictions (lies) that are anti-Bible, which in essence is anti-truth.--->
@DerrickthePinecone It reads in perfect 1611 King James Version English because it's translated correctly. And if two prophets on different continents are recieveing the same revelation, wouldn't it make sense that they would speak the same? And yes, I know what happens to people who lie, but I'm not lying. If God and Jesus are one, then how do you explain Acts 7:55-56?
“The Negro race have been forbidden the priesthood, and the higher temple blessings, presumably because of their not having been valiant while in the spirit. It does not pay to be anything but valiant”
This racist statement made in to those that call themselves latter-day saints during their semi-Annual Conference in Salt Lake City first week in Oct. 1947 by George F. Richards, an ordained Apostle later was President of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles. (Conference Reports, Oct. 1947 p57)
“Why do we believe in and practice polygamy? Because the Lord introduced it to his servants in a revelation given to Joseph Smith, and the Lord’s servants have always practiced it. And is that religion popular in heaven? It is the only popular religion there.
This nonsense was preached by Brigham Young before the self –proclaimed latter-day saints on July 6 1862, Salt Lake City. B.Y. 2nd false Prophet of LDS Church had 50 or 60 wives
Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian
@getdownto311 Definition of bigot: a person who is emotionally attached to an argument to the point that they will not budge or admit reasoned counter-argument. As soon as you have a rational argument for what you say and believe, you cannot be accused of being a bigot. If you don't like what you read here, try a different insult.
This is false! Anyone who truly studied the mormon church, then would see all of these allegations are wrong. For one thing, who says that Jesus Christ isn't okay with mormons being Christians? The true name of the mormon church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, for Jesus taught that his church would bear his name. And Christ and the Father have a body of flesh and bones as said in Luke 24:36-39. There is nothing that is taught in the LDS church that goes against the bible.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 They're teaching false doctrine. Jesus said, "I will build MY church." He said nothing about sects, groups or denominations. The church, in reality, is His body. We, as Christians, are "the church." Mormonism is a cult that has re-arranged the Word of God, similar to the Catholics. Any group that states that Lucifer & Jesus are "spirit brothers" are LIARS. Period. It doesn't matter what a church names itself; it's about their teachings! If they don't align with the Bible, flee!
@DerrickthePinecone hahaha is that all you got we are teaching false doctorine? dont tell us what we believe you look like a fool when trying to explain our beliefs you idiot!
@getdownto311 What else do you want me to say? Mormonism is teaching contrary to the Word of God. There's no need to call me names because I'm trying to lead you in the right direction. If something goes contrary to God's Word, flee from it, period, because it isn't from God, it's from Satan. Like I said, Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan were brothers. THAT IS A LIE FROM THE PITS OF HELL. Period. No matter how you try and sway it, that is an absolute FALSE doctrine. Open your eyes to TRUTH!
@DerrickthePinecone yeah you claim that you are christian your an embarrassment to the christian world so keep on lying and keep up the poor work,,try preaching christ instead of hate,your doing yourself alot more harm than good here.
@getdownto311 How am I "lying" when I am specifically quoting what the Mormons believe? Stating that Jesus and Satan are "brothers" lowest the stature of Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, and the Savior. Satan is an angel, created by God, whereas Jesus IS God. How am I lying, when I'm simply standing for the Truth and trying to show you how false Mormonism is? Come out of this garbage and come to the Truth! Mormonism is a cult, my friend. Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to heaven.
"The Mormon Church teaches that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary (Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 546-547; 742). Mormon doctrine affirms that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers (Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18; Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).”
@DerrickthePinecone blah blah blah you can quote mromon doctorine and journal of discourses all you wish to,but too bad for it is not official church doctorine,keep up the poor work tool bag.
@getdownto311 So, wait a minute. I'm quoting to you what YOUR OWN Mormon doctrine specifically states, yet now you claim & make the excuse that It's not official church doctrine"? Oh, paleeze! A doctrine is a doctrine, PERIOD. How can you actually blatantly sit there & type such a thing? It's either true or false, & it's FALSE. Since you say it's not official church doctrine, how about you explaining to me what IS the Mormon church doctrine then, since I'm so "wrong" as to quote legit sources?
@DerrickthePinecone yelling over the internet isnt helping your already fraudulent case to disprove mormonism,just because you say its false and with no backing a 100 times doesnt mean that it is,you are not the arbiter of truth Jesus Christ you need Christ brother.
@getdownto311 Actually, I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, my friend! I HAVE Jesus! No one is yelling or getting angry; I'm just calmly debating with you, and proving to you that Mormonism is a cult. No backing? If you just scroll down, I've posted quotes from your own doctrine. I've already showed you "proof" and "facts." What more do you want? To read it to you? ;-) ... In reality, it's filled with so many lies and contradictions that are anti-God that it's truly saddening...
@DerrickthePinecone really hahaha calling and election made sure? were anti-god? ha do some actual research before ytou run your filthy mouth,whats really saddening is you have no idea what your talking about so you have to repeat lie after lie,so dont come in here and bare the name of Christ when you willfully and knowingly are lying,your an embarrasment to the christian world how dare you even call yourself one when your downright rude and condescending to the mormons.
@getdownto311 How am I being "rude" by simply showing proofs from a doctrinal text? I'm just trying to show you that it's a lie to believe that Jesus and Satan were brothers. Period. It's unscriptural and it's a total lie from the pits of hell, whether you like it or not. Just take the time to research the Truth, to truly seek it, and God will show you. God hates "religion." The TRUTH will set you free from all of that garbage, my friend.
@DerrickthePinecone you have yet to -present me any truth about my faith calling my leaders and calling the mormons liars in general what? you outta think you should be rewarded for slanderish remarks,all that you said its scripitual oand a its from the pits of hell with no backing,garbage? your as ignorant as they come,you worship the bible more than you worship god himself how sad!
"The Mormon Church teaches that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary (Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 546-547; 742). Mormon doctrine affirms that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers (Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18; Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).”
@DerrickthePinecone It's a flat out LIE from Satan himself! Jesus and Satan were NOT brothers. We're NOT "spiritual brothers" of Lucifer, either. That's a LIE, LIE, LIE. Period.
@getdownto311 You calling me nams us that shows me where your heart is, sir. No need to get angry. Interesting how when someone hates the message, they attack the messenger. The Truth hurts! Again: when you realize that JESUS is GOD, you will come to understand that Lucifer was a created angel; he was very highly ranked. It's IMPOSSIBLE for that reason alone that Jesus and Satan and brothers. Do the research and come to the Truth yourself. I hope that you do! Bless you!
@DerrickthePinecone you making slanderous remarks against my faith and the leaders within,you have nothing to go on with your "truth" ypou have yet to present me with any! jesus is GOD that settles move on buddy`,dont tell us what we believe,your a liar and your a deciever,
@DerrickthePinecone read the book of genesis are we not the spiritual offspring of god? didnt god create everyone and everything,read the bible which you so vehemenently to tell me to read,which i have a copy of the KJV and i read it a nd believe in it,go back and read the bible bud.
@DerrickthePinecone love here you can cherry pick otes the self-prescribe it as lies with no backing,you must be a relative of this Jeffress pastor you are making yourself look bad out here
@getdownto311 Do you really believe that we're brothers to the "god of this world," the evil one, Lucifer? Satan was CREATED, therefore making it impossible that we're his "brother," and especially foolish to think that Jesus is Satan's brother. It's just a flat out LIE. Jesus IS God, therefore Satan was created by Jesus. I'd suggest getting a copy of The TRUE Bible, The Holy Bible, and reading into it. No need to angry! Ha! I'm just trying to lead you in the right path here...
@DerrickthePinecone i have and believe in the bible KJV your leadeing me nowhere with your tactics,we are the spiritual offspring of god,it says that in the book of genesis,you are really stuck on that one??read the bible which you speak of, find jesus, and find peace in this life,sorry i dont want your watered down version of christianity.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 If there is but ONE contradiction, ONE falsitivity, ONE lie, ONE anything that goes CONTRARY to the Word of God, The Holy Bible, it is a LIE straight from the pits of hell. It's no different than the Catholic church's erroneous diversions and re-arrangements in the Bible, teaching false doctrines that go contrary to God's Word. Teaching half-truths is nothing more than Whole Lies, period. God WARNS of re-arranging His Word! He says that anyone who does so would be cursed!
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 The LDS church DOES contradict the Bible, otherwise why would have their "Book of Mormon" when one can just simply rely on the Truth of The Holy Bible? The Catholics have their own Bible as well & there're many false doctrines within it, just like in the Book of Mormon, it's full of lies that CONTRADICT The Bible. Saying that Jesus & Satan are brothers is a contradiction. Just 1 lie, & you know it's not from God. Satan is the father of lies, so that should tell you something.
@DerrickthePinecone No. The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ. It's doctrines align with the bible. I want you to find me one scripture that says that Jesus and Satan were not brothers. Satan was a son of the morning, just as Jesus was. We are all spirit brothers and sisters of Jesus and Lucifer. And if you say that the Book of Mormon is full of lies, then so is the bible because they are mirror images of each other.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 No, there isn't "another Testament of Jesus Christ." Where in the Bible does it say that? Satan was CREATED by God. Jesus is God. So, in essence, Jesus created Satan. They can't be "brothers" for that very reason. I'm definitely no brother of Lucifer! I have authority over Satan in the Name of Jesus! Why does the Mormon Church still teach that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God after he made a false prophecy about a temple being built in Missouri in his generation?
@DerrickthePinecone God and Jesus are separate beings but one in purpose. Acts 7:55-56 says, " But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus estanding on the right hand of God. And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God." Jesus created the heavens and the earth, but God created us. And Joseph Smith wasn't a false prophet.
@DerrickthePinecone Up until his murder, Joseph Smith dedicated his life to the restoration of the LDS church and his wife and children's lives were constantly threatened. Do you think that anyone would allow their family to face that kind of danger for some willful fantasy? And there is a temple in Kirtland, Missouri. It's just that the Community of Christ owns it now, but the earliest LDS saints built it. And the temple was completed while Joseph was alive.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 If the Book of Mormon is the most correct of any book on earth, as Joseph Smith said, why does it contain over 4000 changes from the original 1830 edition? Satan was the most annoited cherub. Jesus and God the Father are ONE. If the Book of Mormon was engraved on gold plates thousands of years ago, why does it read in perfect 1611 King James Version English?
@DerrickthePinecone You calling mormonism a cult is your opinion. And you can think whatever you want, but with the way you're going, every religion that is not your own is a cult. In the Book of Mormon, Moroni 10:4-5 says "And after you would recieve these things I would exhort you that you would ask God, the Eternal Father, if these things are not true." I have prayed about the Book of Mormon many times and and I know it's true. Critics of the LDS church don't really understand it.
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 It is a cult, it isn't just my "opinion." Does the Mormon belief state that Jesus and Satan are brothers? Yes, they do. Are you denying that it says that, because if you are, then you are lying, & don't you know what the Bible says about lying?
What does God specifically say to those that lie & re-arrange His Word?
Galatians 1:8 says:
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
@DerrickthePinecone So my question is, was it a "cult" that followed Moses out of Egypt? If you think about it is the exact same thing. God appeared to Moses in the form of the burning bush and called him to be a prophet and lead people to the promised land. He also received, scripture from from God. Compare these to Joseph Smith. So if Mormons are a cult then Moses and his people were too. And Jesus revered a leader of a cult.
Mormons do not believe Christians are going to heaven. I like Mitt Romney, but Mormonism is another religion. Joel has just opened the door for many unknowing Christians, who trust him, to try out Mormonism as another "denomination."
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who know nothing of the things of God, for the natural man is opposed to those things which are spiritual and so then is unable to discern sacred truths that are given by God to His children because they instead have chosen to seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. “These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 19” For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience., you whose desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart. Fall before the altar of prosperity and materialism, for that is your true desire and reward.
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak of you who have chosen to fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, to you who stand before your altar of deceit, to you who pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils,,” Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18 ”
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, you who pay homage to these fools who teach despicable doctrines to you who have chosen to venerate them for they have become their idols, to those who submit and adore them for they walk among the dead, to those who are proud, haughty and vengeful. The fear of the LORD is to hate evil, pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Proverbs 8:13
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the word speaks to you, “For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up, and he shall be brought low.” Isaiah 2:12“For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.” Psalm 59:12
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who are proud and yet fools, “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. “Revelation 3:17 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom “Proverbs 11:2
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , you who stand before your altar of apostasy, to you who is not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men, for this is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God, you who seek fleshy wisdom, you who are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty.
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who sit with much anticipation awaiting your riches, for the foolish man seeks after temporal things for he has no heart for God because he is spiritually dead. Quickly, defend these fools for you have no desire for godly wisdom nor to glorify Him, for you have only contempt for spiritual knowledge and wisdom.
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who do not abide in His word but in folly, for the word speaks to your foolishness, cry out to your god of carnality, lay low below your altar of deceit for you are but a fool, prone to falsehood. A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. “Proverbs 29:23
I am wondering why he said this? I am aware that in the US, there is often the view that Christians must vote for Christian leaders in government. Maybe Joel supported this guy, then tried to placate people with the "Christians for Christians" view?
@kjvjay I have spent time with them, again on Sunday, and i question their Gospel Principal class teacher, and every question i give, he cannot answer with confidence. Especially when it comes to God not knowing Adam and Eve were going to sin. Their Plan of Salvation. Testing ground theory. Most of it comes from the the BOM and not the hebrew scriptures. They don't study the bible like the Jehovah Witnesses do.
You are so right, seriously those mormons calling themselves christians,..being taught to Love one another, so serve one another, learning to repent, keeping the commandments of God, Going to services every week, abstaining from substances that can impair their bodies like drugs and alcohol, being involved in service projects, take care of the sick and the needy, pulling together humanitarian aid, learning to be more like our savior jeus christ, giving up 18 months to 2 years of our lives. exact
Oh my GOODNESS<, people keep taking parts of facts and twisting them. You have nothing BETTER to do than to tear someone else's religion. that is someone's belief. whether you believe or not, that is your own choice, but to tear down someone else's faith it heartless. Mormon's believe in christ, our church name isn't mormon;s, it's the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. and no Buddhist will go to hell, they are so much more kind and loving than the "christian" who posted this video
Joel Osteen is about as much of a true leader of Christianity as I am the Grand Imperial wizard of the Alabama sect of the KKK...and no...I'm not White.
Heretic. He has no truth in him. He preaches a watered down gospel and new age heresies. He doesn't want to offend anyone so that the can keep the money coming in. The only thing on is mind is money. Let him be accursed or truly saved.
Whoever made this video fights against the plan of God and his angels and will be held accountable before God on the last day and will be one to profess before the Father ,"lord, lord," but jesus will say,"depart from me you who work iniquity I never knew you."
He knows nothing about mormonism. Like all those who find Jesus Christ, by whatever way you might, the true Christ will meet you in Glory and testify to your soul he lives. So will he testify of all truth especially the book of mormon
How do you know Jesus isn´t ok with it? Because Jesus said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Mormon Jesus. The Mormon, in Mormon writings, is the older brother of Lucifer.
For God so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
It is fitting that the poster of this video be called Antioch7 being that is where the outsiders of the church called the Saints "Christians" for the first time, and that is how they've been known by outsiders to Christ's church ever since, not as Saints.
1 Corinthians 3:
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Why do you think your personal interpretation of the bible is the correct one? One can form any kind of conclusion and graft scriptures to support their opinion. Hence the vast number of churches with differing dogmas reading from the same bible. So again I ask you, Why do you think your interpretation of the bible is the correct one?
It makes me sick to read comments defending Joel's opinion...you who do so are defending a man, OVER the truth in God's Word. Where is your loyalty to Christ? One comment called you "unChristlike" for exposing Joel's viewpoint...obviously from someone who doesn't read or esteem the Bible. It says, "Mark them (make note of; expose) which cause division (false doctrine) and avoid them. You ARE being Christlike when you obey the Word!
LIAR! You say Mormons deny the cross of Christ and that His blood is insufficient. That is an absolute LIE and you will be judged for being a hater. We know Christ died on the cross. We dont celebrate the cross or wear it around our necks because we worship the LIVE Jesus, the resurrected one. His blood did pay the price for OUR sins. We are the ones that are insufficient and need his atonement and blood to be forgiven. You are not even close to being an example of Christ. REPENT!
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O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are faithless, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who detest his will and his son ,” A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. “Proverbs 29:23, The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God, God is not in all his thoughts. Psalm 10:4 “The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way, but the folly of fools is deceit. “Proverbs 14:8
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who have contempt for God and his children, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who abhor his will and his son, you who are bitter, you who are vengeful and prideful, you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience, you who have no regard nor desire for truth, “Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous. “Psalm 31:18
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are boastful, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. I will break down your stubborn pride. Psalm 10:3 “For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth. I will break down your stubborn pride. Psalm 10:3
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who lack wisdom, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of fools is made known. Proverbs 14:33, As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a parable in the mouths of fools. Proverbs 26:9
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are bitter and callous, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, you who stand before your altar of apostasy, you who pay homage to fools who teach, doctrines taught by devils,”Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18 ” “They close up their callous hearts, and their mouths speak with arrogance Psalm 17:10
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are carnal, you whose folly is wickedness, and you who wear no robe of humility, “These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 1:19, “For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6, “He that hath a froward heart findeth no good: and he that hath a perverse tongue falleth into mischief.” Proverbs 17:20
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are foolish, callous and revel in deceit, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “A prudent man concealeth knowledge, but the heart of fools proclaimeth foolishness. Proverbs 12:23 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” John 15:6
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15 “Wisdom resteth in the heart of him that hath understanding: but that which is in the midst of fools is made known.” Proverbs14:33
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are vile, contemptuous and boastful, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.” Proverbs 18:7, “Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath I, but the instruction of fools is folly “Proverbs 16:22 “The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for want of wisdom. Proverbs 10:21
Rylucero 5 days ago
O spiritually dead ones, the scriptures speak to you who are faithless, you who have much admiration for these abominations of deceit, “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us, for we are not ignorant of his devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11 “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” James 4:4
Rylucero 5 days ago
Arguing over fairy tales... What a waste. Instead of discussing which made up story is true, why not just go out and do some good in the world?
aylababy11 5 days ago
In Mormonism there are gods upon gods. So many gods Brigham Young, 2nd leader of Mormon Church, did not know how many there were. The Bible says there is and always was and always will be one true God. The one true God says there were no other gods formed before him nor will any gods be formed after him. The one true God has revealed Himself by His creation and His word, the Bible. There is no need for nor are there any other books inspired by the one true God.
kjvjay 1 week ago
The scriptures say that there is "One Lord, one faith, one baptism" Ephesians 4:5 and
"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." Hebrews 13:8. Christ nor His church has ever changed
So, if there is ONE Lord, ONE faith, and ONE baptism. Then why are there innumerable Christian denominations? If they all had the same belief, they would be the same church. So, in every Christian church, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Ephesians 4:5 is not practiced.
Dr3wcif3r 2 weeks ago
@Dr3wcif3r There are many Mormon sects like the Community of Christ, FLDS, etc. The only unchanged Church that can trace its origins and priesthood authority to Jesus' 12 disciples in an unbroken line of succession is the Orthodox Christian Church. The Orthodox Church is the original Christian community Christ founded. The Orthodox Church is the one true faith, the one true church. It alone is the Body of Christ. The LDS Church changed several of its doctrines like polygamy.
magnus56j 1 week ago
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John 10:29 also says "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand."
This proves that Heavenly Father & Jesus Christ are one in purpose, in manner, in testimony, in mission. They are one in every significant and eternal aspect imaginable except that They are three persons combined in one substance, a Trinitarian notion NEVER set forth in the scriptures because it is not true.
Dr3wcif3r 2 weeks ago
It is self-evident from the scriptures that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are separate persons, three divine beings, noting such unequivocal illustrations as the Savior’s great Intercessory Prayer, His baptism at the hands of John, the experience on the Mount of Transfiguration, His cry on the cross "My God! My God! Why hast thou forsaken me?"and the martyrdom of Stephen—to name just five.
Dr3wcif3r 2 weeks ago
@Dr3wcif3r Trinitarian Christians believe that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate persons, but believe in one divine nature. Also, Jesus had two natures. Divine and human. In His humanity, Christ is inferior to the Father. In His Divinity, He is perfectly equal to the Father. Your five points only relate to His humanity.
magnus56j 1 week ago
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Dr3wcif3r 2 weeks ago
Joel stated he knows nothing of the LDS church or its doctrine, nor has he thought about the LDS and yet in his mind they are Christian... He was caught out with these questions about the LDS claims to Christianity and you can see it! In his mind, the words Jesus Christ are in the logo, ergo, they must be Christian... WHY does anyone listen to this man?
54v115 2 weeks ago
How is he a false prophet if he hasn't prophesied anything? :-/
TheMizzBieberfever 2 weeks ago
How come u don't show the whole clip of what he says?
x3zero7 2 weeks ago
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People who profess Jesus Christ just so stupid. Joel Osteen does NOT have to know about Mormonism to be GREATLY used by God, which he is. Its that the "critics" are angry and jealous, besides being small-minded and judgemental, loveless bags of wind.
Thank you Lord for Jesus Christ and thank You for Joel Osteen!
PureAirSolutions 2 weeks ago
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PureAirSolutions 2 weeks ago
Joel is a false prophet and he will be judged. There is only one way to heaven and that is by jesus.
internetangel77 2 weeks ago
@internetangel77 You are a judgemental hypocrite and will be dealt with by Jesus in THIS life.
PureAirSolutions 2 weeks ago
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Your accusations against the LDS Church & against Joel Osteen are FALSE! Mormons don't worship any other gods. Do other gods exist? Who can say? We worship God the Eternal Father, His son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. And as for the Bible, the Bible backs up the LDS Church! The 14th century theory of The Trinity is mentioned absolutely NOWHERE in the Bible. However, the nature of the Godhead is mentioned many times. Polygamy, planet Kolob stuff, all not true. Mormons ARE Christians.
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"Hahahahaha....LOL....ROFL...Ha¬hahahaha, you are a joke! Go now and take a shower, lose some weight, and learn to speak better! This is the only way you can become a sister wife"
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This is how an anti-mormon speaks
dorisfenella 3 weeks ago
What about your autority ? , where came from? , are you a new born christian ? Evangelical christian ? , so you are desendant doctrinaly from Luther.....a catholic priest .......think about it if you are able to do that.
sergioroap 4 weeks ago
@sergioroap ahem... Xcotholic priest... converted by reading the Bible in his own language rather than continueing in the false teachings of men. My authority for example comes from the Holy Spirit and the Bible. At a glance it looks like you are one of those still wrapped up in false traditions of men, most likely of the LDS persuasion.
RedSun875 3 weeks ago
He [joel] has never really thought about them or considered them [the mormon doctrine or history] .. yet.. in his mind they [the mormons] are [christian]... what ignorance, this man is a joke!
54v115 4 weeks ago
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Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
10290gilmore 1 month ago
Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
10290gilmore 1 month ago
@10290gilmore Your post, "...much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!"
Interesting response you give to my question. A question that was prompted by your statement, “Poor religious people...they see hypocracy in everything but their own beliefs!”
kjvjay 1 month ago
@kjvjay Uhh...what ? Make a point ...please !!
10290gilmore 1 month ago
Poor religious people...they see hipocracy in everything but their own beliefs !
10290gilmore 1 month ago
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kjvjay 1 month ago
@10290gilmore
What hypocrisy is there in your life?
kjvjay 1 month ago
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@kjvjay Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
10290gilmore 1 month ago
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@kjvjay Religious people criticize other religions without understanding that the same logic can be applied to their own beliefs...I have never heard a pro-religious argument that wasn't delusional and incoherent, much like your weird question to me, which is circular nonsense!
10290gilmore 1 month ago
@10290gilmore Christians defend their faith. Mormons have butchered, distorted and perverted the Bible.
harvestsoulfly 2 weeks ago
Joel Osteen should never been ordained as a minister, He is a wolf in sheep's clothing
MrBigbear6718 1 month ago 2
I liked the video
MrBigbear6718 1 month ago
Stupid video. I want to see the interview! So annoying. good teachings though :)
itiswritten77 1 month ago
Idiots
augie159 1 month ago
Joel dosent know what he's talking about if had took the time do study what the lds belive he wood not say some thinkg like that the LDS are a cult.
jayhawk88z 1 month ago
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
You do not need the Mormon Church for anything. Unless of course you just want to pay them 10% of your total income so you can PRETEND that someday you might, maybe, perhaps, be a god or a goddess to your polygamist god husband.
The way to God’s house and kingdom is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith and Mormonism
kjvjay 1 month ago
If you repent of your sins and believe the gospel then Jesus says to you, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2)
“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
kjvjay 1 month ago
@kjvjay never mind @getdownto311 , she is braindead. You can present all the facts in the world showing her what a cult her church is, and she would still spew out the same shit. She is without a doubt, the biggest fucktard I have yet to see on Youtube. She likes to post incoherent messages on my channel as well. btw, did you see her last response to you? I think it was the longest run on sentence I have ever seen. She shows what an uneducated utah inbred hick she is with each post.
mdlinks 1 month ago
Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
Joseph Smith declared, "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man,....If you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man…”
Joseph Smith’s god is nothing more than an exalted man.
The God of the Bible and Christians is was never a man that became God, but has always and always will be God
kjvjay 1 month ago
@kjvjay you know i can post cherry picked quotes just like you are doing,your comments are just full of deceit,we are christian in every sense of the word you dont get to define a christian sorry,and bashing,mocking,and making somebodies faith totally unchrist-like behavior.
getdownto311 1 month ago
"Jesus Christ is not OK with it." Did you personally ask Jesus if he was OK with it, you ignorant fuck?
YouTubricant 2 months ago 2
@YouTubricant Hell Ya! Thank you. Who the hell put this on? What does he think he knows. Of course they are. Christians are anyone who believes in Christ. Ha ha What a dope to think he knows so well. It doesnt matter what you call yourself, it only matters in what you do with it.
MsSaga91 1 month ago
(1/3 Brigham Young, supported slavery)
"In our first settlement in Missouri, it was said by our enemies that we intended to tamper with the slaves, not that we had any idea of the kind, for such a thing never entered our minds. We knew that the children of Ham [In Mormonism this means Blacks] were to be the ‘servant of servants,’
kjvjay 2 months ago
(2/3 Brigham Young, supported slavery)
“and no power under heaven could hinder it, so long as the Lord would permit them to welter under the curse and those were known to be our religious views concerning them."
kjvjay 2 months ago
(3/3 Brigham Young, supported slavery)
This was part of Brigham Young, 2nd false Prophet of The Mormon Church, Sunday Service Massage given to the self-proclaimed latter-day saints, in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Utah, February 18, 1855.
“The Lord” of Mormonism as Joseph Smith declared is nothing more than an exalted man who became a god. Other false Mormon prophets and teachers went on to teach this exalted man god, who is a racist, and a polygamist.
kjvjay 2 months ago
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kjvjay 2 months ago
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(Part 1/2 Racist remarks by Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle)
“Think of the Negro, cursed as to the priesthood...This Negro, who in the pre-existence lived the type of life which justified the Lord in sending him to the earth in the lineage of Cain with a black skin, and possibly being born in darkest Africa--If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a SERVANT.”
kjvjay 2 months ago
(Part 2/2 Racist remarks by Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle)
--If that Negro is faithful all his days, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a SERVANT.”
Mark E. Petersen, LDS Apostle, ”Race Problems – As They Affect The Church” addresses The Convention of Teachers of Religion on the College Level, BYU, Provo, Utah Aug 27, 1954
kjvjay 2 months ago
And thank goodness you r not in charge of this country or I might not have the right to agree with Pastor Olsteen, U would probably have me locked up for being a cult member, HUH I wonder then who would have to be in charge to lock u up for being a true christian, or lock up the jews maybe, or the blacks, or the mexicans, just where does this train stop?
ZorroTech88 2 months ago
So let me get this straight, Mormons are not christians, u r making that decision for God, judging them, or r u saying God told u they are not true cristians? Either way arent u doing the same thing u claim they r? saying who is saved and who is not and that those people who dont believe the way u do r not saved? Please explain how u somehow have the exclusive authority to make any of these decisions? Seems to me Joel is saying let God be the judge of these things, I agree with him
ZorroTech88 2 months ago
Comparing what Mormon leader have written and taught and with what the Bible teaches is bringing the dark un-Biblical teachings of Mormonism into the light of the Scripture. If that is embarrassing to Mormons, so be it.
The producers of this video give all the reference for Mormon writings and publication and the Bible to show Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
kjvjay 2 months ago
Joel, what a good man! He is a true disciple of Christ! He actually is comfortable with his faith. If the creator of this video really thinks that he is a Christian they had better think again. Christ brings light not darkness even in the most condemning of situations. This video is full of explicit attacks that are used in the same slander that Satan uses. It brings an awful feel into the room and it has nothing to do with the LDS faith. The producers are wolves in sheep clothing!
elkboy2 2 months ago
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“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)
You do not need the Mormon Church for anything. Unless of course you just want to pay them 10% of your hard earned income so you can PRETEND that someday you might, maybe, perhaps, be a god or a goddess to your polygamist god husband.
The way to God’s house and kingdom is through faith in Jesus Christ, not through Joseph Smith and Mormonism.
kjvjay 2 months ago
If you repent of your sins and believe the gospel then Jesus says to you, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.” (John 14:2)
“And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
kjvjay 2 months ago
There are many gods in Mormonism and Hinduism. “How many Gods there are, I do not know, But there never was a time when there were not Gods and worlds, and when men were not passing through the same ordeals that we are passing through. That course has been from all eternity, and it is and will be so to all eternity”
Brigham Young, 2nd false prophet of LDS, delivered this sermon, in the Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Utah, October 8, 1859
So who are these gods of Mormonism and who cares?
kjvjay 2 months ago
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kjvjay 2 months ago
YAWNNN . Wow its always the same old boring arguments. Same old boring crappy clips. this argument has been going on since the restoration of the true nature and establishment of Christs church. It hasn't stopped the growth. it does not stop the elect from finding the pure light of Christ. You fight in vain against GOD himself. You are free to do so. As we are free to worship. The day comes swiftly when all truths will be made known. Use the whole word of god and they shall be made known sooner
senhorpoopypants 2 months ago
Let Joseph Smith tell you what Mormons believe. "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! ....If you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man…” Teachings of The Prophet J.S., compiled by Joseph F. Smith, 2009, p345.
This is not the God of the Bible and Christians.
kjvjay 2 months ago
The exalted man god of Mormon god, whose supposed throne is neigh unto Kolob will not be judging anything.
Of the one true God it is written, “… even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.” Ps 90:2
The God of the Bible and Christians is not the exalted god man of Mormons. He was never a man that became God, but has always and always will exist as The Lord God Almighty.
The Mormon exalted man is a god whom Christians have no need.
kjvjay 2 months ago
WHY EXACTLY SHOULD WE BE SURPRISED BY THIS WHEN HE DANCES AROUND THE 'BIBLICAL' TRUTH AT JUST ABOUT EVERY TURN?? I HAVE YET TO SEE THIS MAN OPEN HIS BIBLE AND READ FROM IT EVEN ONE SUNDAY ON TV, SPEAK ABOUT JESUS UNLESS IT SUITS HIM, TALK ABOUT REPENTANCE AND SALVATION, ETC. IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO 'HIS' AGENDA. KEEP NOTICING HOW IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS ABOUT, "WELL I BELIEVE", RATHER THAN WHAT THE "WORD" SAYS IT SHOULD BE. BIBLE PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED BEFORE OUR VERY EYES FOLKS.
jebeja 2 months ago
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Mega12months 2 months ago
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But when HE, The SPIRIT of Truth (HOLY SPIRIT-GOD),
comes, HE will guide you into all Truth. HE will tell you what is to come.
Mega12months 2 months ago
hi, i will be posting a log, its long, so i will post it in 3 or 4 postings, i know its long, but must be said in full-GBY
Mega12months 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone My church can answer questions that someone has from the reading the bible that probably never made sense to you. Who do you think the "other sheep" were that Christ was refering to in John 10:16? The people in the Book of Mormon. And what the heck do you think 1 Corinthians 15:29 and 15:40-41 mean? The LDS church has answers to these!
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone You probably haven't even read the Book of Mormon, and if you have, then you were looking for things with which to bring it down. I respect Joel Osteen and his followers as long as they continue to uphold the principle that someone believing and relying on Christ, is sufficient enough to earn my respect.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone ...so as to prevent STDs, unexpected child pregnancy and to keep sex as it should be used-to procreate and bind together a husband and wife- or the fact that members are asked to donate 10% of their income to the church's welfare program that helps countries suffering from tsunamis or earthquakes and those living in poverty. You make call what we're taught about God blasphemy and capitalize all the words you want, but I know for myself that it's true.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 ...so go ahead & continue to be filled up with "religion." God HATES "religion"! You're pointing out great things, but you ignore what I've pointed out that Mormonism teaches, which goes contrary the Bible. A LOT of false doctrines teach half-truths--sugarcoating The Bible to make it fit their own beliefs--but God WARNS about this kind of thing, saying that people will be 'accursed' for doing this. I've pointed out the error of Mormonism; it's up to you to come to the Truth.
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone I'll bet that all the videos you've watched have been nothing but critisms of the mormon church. The best testimony of the Book of Mormon that I have ever heard, was given by Jeffrey R. Holland in a talk called "Safety for the Soul." There is nothing in the world I could say that could change your minds if you're going to put up blocks. Many people have met with Mormon leaders and respect them like the former president JFK and Obama.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone When you say that there is no doubt that we are a cult, what are you implying that my religion is? And if our religion is as 'false" as you claim it is, then why is it that 15,000,000 people belong to it. And how do you explain the fact that over 300,000 new members join each year?
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 Based on statistics, there are 70% PROFESSING Christians in the world. However, just because one states that they're a Christian doesn't mean jack! Many profess to be a Christian, but many don't follow it, nor LIVE it. God says that we TRUE BELIEVERS are His "little flock," & 70% certainly doesn't sound like 70%! The road is indeed narrow. Jesus said, "I will build MY church." He didn't say groups, sects, denominations, etc. True believers are far and wide, my friend...
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 In fact, 70% of those "professing Christians" are Catholics, so what does that tell you? Satan's COUNTERFEIT Christianity is running rampant in this world. Please come to understand these realities/facts. I am trying to get you to understand you are truly in error. Just do the research and come to understand that you're wrong. God said that if a person TRULY seeks the Truth, He will reveal it to them. Believe me, if you do that, you will discover that Mormonism is a lie...
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone But here the fact, I'm not giving up my religion. You don't seem to understand that I prayed about it and in my heart I KNOW it's true. I don't care what you say and how many times you tell me that I'm wrong and a lier or whatever, I'm not leaving my church. But what part of the mormon church is most appaling to you: the fact that we're asked not to drink alcohol because it impares your judgement and harms you body, that the youth are asked not to have sex before
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone But here the fact, I'm not giving up my religion. You don't seem to understand that I prayed about it and in my heart I KNOW it's true. I don't care what you say and how many times you tell me that I'm wrong and a lier or whatever, I'm not leaving my church. But what part of the mormon church is most appaling to you: the fact that we're asked not to drink alcohol because it impares your judgement and harms you body, that the youth are asked not to have sex before marriage
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 That's understandable. I'm not asking you to "give up" your "religion." You see, the thing that separates true Christianity from "religion" is the fact that true Christ-based, Bible-based, Christianity is full of nothing but Truth. The difference between "religion" and true Christianity is that Christianity is a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus Christ. Mormonism, as I've pointed out via your own doctrine, has contradictions (lies) that are anti-Bible, which in essence is anti-truth.--->
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone It reads in perfect 1611 King James Version English because it's translated correctly. And if two prophets on different continents are recieveing the same revelation, wouldn't it make sense that they would speak the same? And yes, I know what happens to people who lie, but I'm not lying. If God and Jesus are one, then how do you explain Acts 7:55-56?
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
“The Negro race have been forbidden the priesthood, and the higher temple blessings, presumably because of their not having been valiant while in the spirit. It does not pay to be anything but valiant”
This racist statement made in to those that call themselves latter-day saints during their semi-Annual Conference in Salt Lake City first week in Oct. 1947 by George F. Richards, an ordained Apostle later was President of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles. (Conference Reports, Oct. 1947 p57)
kjvjay 2 months ago
“Why do we believe in and practice polygamy? Because the Lord introduced it to his servants in a revelation given to Joseph Smith, and the Lord’s servants have always practiced it. And is that religion popular in heaven? It is the only popular religion there.
This nonsense was preached by Brigham Young before the self –proclaimed latter-day saints on July 6 1862, Salt Lake City. B.Y. 2nd false Prophet of LDS Church had 50 or 60 wives
Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian
kjvjay 2 months ago
Read about dominion theology in Wikipedia. It outlines many false doctrines, preached by many people who claim to be true Christians.
jkittyc 2 months ago
really kid whats the problem with Joel? because he's not bigot like you are? hmmmm
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Definition of bigot: a person who is emotionally attached to an argument to the point that they will not budge or admit reasoned counter-argument. As soon as you have a rational argument for what you say and believe, you cannot be accused of being a bigot. If you don't like what you read here, try a different insult.
555pontifex 2 months ago
This is false! Anyone who truly studied the mormon church, then would see all of these allegations are wrong. For one thing, who says that Jesus Christ isn't okay with mormons being Christians? The true name of the mormon church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, for Jesus taught that his church would bear his name. And Christ and the Father have a body of flesh and bones as said in Luke 24:36-39. There is nothing that is taught in the LDS church that goes against the bible.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 They're teaching false doctrine. Jesus said, "I will build MY church." He said nothing about sects, groups or denominations. The church, in reality, is His body. We, as Christians, are "the church." Mormonism is a cult that has re-arranged the Word of God, similar to the Catholics. Any group that states that Lucifer & Jesus are "spirit brothers" are LIARS. Period. It doesn't matter what a church names itself; it's about their teachings! If they don't align with the Bible, flee!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone hahaha is that all you got we are teaching false doctorine? dont tell us what we believe you look like a fool when trying to explain our beliefs you idiot!
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 What else do you want me to say? Mormonism is teaching contrary to the Word of God. There's no need to call me names because I'm trying to lead you in the right direction. If something goes contrary to God's Word, flee from it, period, because it isn't from God, it's from Satan. Like I said, Mormons teach that Jesus and Satan were brothers. THAT IS A LIE FROM THE PITS OF HELL. Period. No matter how you try and sway it, that is an absolute FALSE doctrine. Open your eyes to TRUTH!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone yeah you claim that you are christian your an embarrassment to the christian world so keep on lying and keep up the poor work,,try preaching christ instead of hate,your doing yourself alot more harm than good here.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 How am I "lying" when I am specifically quoting what the Mormons believe? Stating that Jesus and Satan are "brothers" lowest the stature of Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God, and the Savior. Satan is an angel, created by God, whereas Jesus IS God. How am I lying, when I'm simply standing for the Truth and trying to show you how false Mormonism is? Come out of this garbage and come to the Truth! Mormonism is a cult, my friend. Jesus Christ is the ONLY WAY to heaven.
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Read closely!:
"The Mormon Church teaches that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary (Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 546-547; 742). Mormon doctrine affirms that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers (Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18; Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).”
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone In other words, IT'S A LIE! Come out of this garbage!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone blah blah blah you can quote mromon doctorine and journal of discourses all you wish to,but too bad for it is not official church doctorine,keep up the poor work tool bag.
getdownto311 2 months ago
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DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@getdownto311 So, wait a minute. I'm quoting to you what YOUR OWN Mormon doctrine specifically states, yet now you claim & make the excuse that It's not official church doctrine"? Oh, paleeze! A doctrine is a doctrine, PERIOD. How can you actually blatantly sit there & type such a thing? It's either true or false, & it's FALSE. Since you say it's not official church doctrine, how about you explaining to me what IS the Mormon church doctrine then, since I'm so "wrong" as to quote legit sources?
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone yelling over the internet isnt helping your already fraudulent case to disprove mormonism,just because you say its false and with no backing a 100 times doesnt mean that it is,you are not the arbiter of truth Jesus Christ you need Christ brother.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Actually, I am saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, my friend! I HAVE Jesus! No one is yelling or getting angry; I'm just calmly debating with you, and proving to you that Mormonism is a cult. No backing? If you just scroll down, I've posted quotes from your own doctrine. I've already showed you "proof" and "facts." What more do you want? To read it to you? ;-) ... In reality, it's filled with so many lies and contradictions that are anti-God that it's truly saddening...
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone really hahaha calling and election made sure? were anti-god? ha do some actual research before ytou run your filthy mouth,whats really saddening is you have no idea what your talking about so you have to repeat lie after lie,so dont come in here and bare the name of Christ when you willfully and knowingly are lying,your an embarrasment to the christian world how dare you even call yourself one when your downright rude and condescending to the mormons.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 How am I being "rude" by simply showing proofs from a doctrinal text? I'm just trying to show you that it's a lie to believe that Jesus and Satan were brothers. Period. It's unscriptural and it's a total lie from the pits of hell, whether you like it or not. Just take the time to research the Truth, to truly seek it, and God will show you. God hates "religion." The TRUTH will set you free from all of that garbage, my friend.
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone you have yet to -present me any truth about my faith calling my leaders and calling the mormons liars in general what? you outta think you should be rewarded for slanderish remarks,all that you said its scripitual oand a its from the pits of hell with no backing,garbage? your as ignorant as they come,you worship the bible more than you worship god himself how sad!
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Read!:
"The Mormon Church teaches that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to godhood, having first been procreated as a spirit child by Heavenly Father and a heavenly mother; He was later conceived physically through intercourse between Heavenly Father and the virgin Mary (Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129; Mormon Doctrine, pp. 546-547; 742). Mormon doctrine affirms that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers (Gospel Principles, pp. 17-18; Mormon Doctrine, p. 192).”
LIES!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone It's a flat out LIE from Satan himself! Jesus and Satan were NOT brothers. We're NOT "spiritual brothers" of Lucifer, either. That's a LIE, LIE, LIE. Period.
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone yeah keep telling yourself that.....jackass!
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 You calling me nams us that shows me where your heart is, sir. No need to get angry. Interesting how when someone hates the message, they attack the messenger. The Truth hurts! Again: when you realize that JESUS is GOD, you will come to understand that Lucifer was a created angel; he was very highly ranked. It's IMPOSSIBLE for that reason alone that Jesus and Satan and brothers. Do the research and come to the Truth yourself. I hope that you do! Bless you!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone you making slanderous remarks against my faith and the leaders within,you have nothing to go on with your "truth" ypou have yet to present me with any! jesus is GOD that settles move on buddy`,dont tell us what we believe,your a liar and your a deciever,
getdownto311 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone read the book of genesis are we not the spiritual offspring of god? didnt god create everyone and everything,read the bible which you so vehemenently to tell me to read,which i have a copy of the KJV and i read it a nd believe in it,go back and read the bible bud.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone love here you can cherry pick otes the self-prescribe it as lies with no backing,you must be a relative of this Jeffress pastor you are making yourself look bad out here
getdownto311 2 months ago
@getdownto311 Do you really believe that we're brothers to the "god of this world," the evil one, Lucifer? Satan was CREATED, therefore making it impossible that we're his "brother," and especially foolish to think that Jesus is Satan's brother. It's just a flat out LIE. Jesus IS God, therefore Satan was created by Jesus. I'd suggest getting a copy of The TRUE Bible, The Holy Bible, and reading into it. No need to angry! Ha! I'm just trying to lead you in the right path here...
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone i have and believe in the bible KJV your leadeing me nowhere with your tactics,we are the spiritual offspring of god,it says that in the book of genesis,you are really stuck on that one??read the bible which you speak of, find jesus, and find peace in this life,sorry i dont want your watered down version of christianity.
getdownto311 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone Oh name all 4000 book of mormon changes lol,if your going to make that claim then back it up fool
getdownto311 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone But the LDS church teachings do align with the bible. Nothing in the Book of Mormon or LDS Doctrine will contradict the bible.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 If there is but ONE contradiction, ONE falsitivity, ONE lie, ONE anything that goes CONTRARY to the Word of God, The Holy Bible, it is a LIE straight from the pits of hell. It's no different than the Catholic church's erroneous diversions and re-arrangements in the Bible, teaching false doctrines that go contrary to God's Word. Teaching half-truths is nothing more than Whole Lies, period. God WARNS of re-arranging His Word! He says that anyone who does so would be cursed!
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone There is nothing in the LDS church that contradicts the bible.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 The LDS church DOES contradict the Bible, otherwise why would have their "Book of Mormon" when one can just simply rely on the Truth of The Holy Bible? The Catholics have their own Bible as well & there're many false doctrines within it, just like in the Book of Mormon, it's full of lies that CONTRADICT The Bible. Saying that Jesus & Satan are brothers is a contradiction. Just 1 lie, & you know it's not from God. Satan is the father of lies, so that should tell you something.
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone No. The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ. It's doctrines align with the bible. I want you to find me one scripture that says that Jesus and Satan were not brothers. Satan was a son of the morning, just as Jesus was. We are all spirit brothers and sisters of Jesus and Lucifer. And if you say that the Book of Mormon is full of lies, then so is the bible because they are mirror images of each other.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 No, there isn't "another Testament of Jesus Christ." Where in the Bible does it say that? Satan was CREATED by God. Jesus is God. So, in essence, Jesus created Satan. They can't be "brothers" for that very reason. I'm definitely no brother of Lucifer! I have authority over Satan in the Name of Jesus! Why does the Mormon Church still teach that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God after he made a false prophecy about a temple being built in Missouri in his generation?
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone God and Jesus are separate beings but one in purpose. Acts 7:55-56 says, " But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus estanding on the right hand of God. And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God." Jesus created the heavens and the earth, but God created us. And Joseph Smith wasn't a false prophet.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone Up until his murder, Joseph Smith dedicated his life to the restoration of the LDS church and his wife and children's lives were constantly threatened. Do you think that anyone would allow their family to face that kind of danger for some willful fantasy? And there is a temple in Kirtland, Missouri. It's just that the Community of Christ owns it now, but the earliest LDS saints built it. And the temple was completed while Joseph was alive.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 If the Book of Mormon is the most correct of any book on earth, as Joseph Smith said, why does it contain over 4000 changes from the original 1830 edition? Satan was the most annoited cherub. Jesus and God the Father are ONE. If the Book of Mormon was engraved on gold plates thousands of years ago, why does it read in perfect 1611 King James Version English?
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone You calling mormonism a cult is your opinion. And you can think whatever you want, but with the way you're going, every religion that is not your own is a cult. In the Book of Mormon, Moroni 10:4-5 says "And after you would recieve these things I would exhort you that you would ask God, the Eternal Father, if these things are not true." I have prayed about the Book of Mormon many times and and I know it's true. Critics of the LDS church don't really understand it.
Fuhgeddaboudit94 2 months ago
@Fuhgeddaboudit94 It is a cult, it isn't just my "opinion." Does the Mormon belief state that Jesus and Satan are brothers? Yes, they do. Are you denying that it says that, because if you are, then you are lying, & don't you know what the Bible says about lying?
What does God specifically say to those that lie & re-arrange His Word?
Galatians 1:8 says:
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
DerrickthePinecone 2 months ago
@DerrickthePinecone So my question is, was it a "cult" that followed Moses out of Egypt? If you think about it is the exact same thing. God appeared to Moses in the form of the burning bush and called him to be a prophet and lead people to the promised land. He also received, scripture from from God. Compare these to Joseph Smith. So if Mormons are a cult then Moses and his people were too. And Jesus revered a leader of a cult.
getdownto311 2 months ago
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For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him [Jesus] that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Romans 4:5
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 1:1
kjvjay 2 months ago
Wrong Joel so wrong we need to pray for him and his church
TheKingskid2010 2 months ago
LOL!!!
noaveragejill 3 months ago
Mormons do not believe Christians are going to heaven. I like Mitt Romney, but Mormonism is another religion. Joel has just opened the door for many unknowing Christians, who trust him, to try out Mormonism as another "denomination."
This is terrible.
csk4j 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who know nothing of the things of God, for the natural man is opposed to those things which are spiritual and so then is unable to discern sacred truths that are given by God to His children because they instead have chosen to seek after the fleshy wisdom of fools, “This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. James 3:15
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who wear no robe of humility but one of pride and arrogance. “These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit. “Jude 19” For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who do not walk in righteousness, but in contempt and disobedience., you whose desire is to be submissive to these false teachers and prophets because of your foolishness and pride that has no place for grace because grace is given only to the humble and pure of heart. Fall before the altar of prosperity and materialism, for that is your true desire and reward.
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak of you who have chosen to fall before your gods of carnality and idolatry, to you who stand before your altar of deceit, to you who pay homage to these fools who teach these doctrines of devils,,” Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before stumbling. “Proverbs 16:18 ”
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, you who pay homage to these fools who teach despicable doctrines to you who have chosen to venerate them for they have become their idols, to those who submit and adore them for they walk among the dead, to those who are proud, haughty and vengeful. The fear of the LORD is to hate evil, pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. Proverbs 8:13
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the word speaks to you, “For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up, and he shall be brought low.” Isaiah 2:12“For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.” Psalm 59:12
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who are proud and yet fools, “Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked. “Revelation 3:17 When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom “Proverbs 11:2
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , you who stand before your altar of apostasy, to you who is not submissive, nor meek, nor humble, nor patient, nor full of love, nor willing to submit to the father but only to the lusts of the flesh and the wisdom of men, for this is the lot of the natural man who is an enemy of God, you who seek fleshy wisdom, you who are carnal, rebellious, disobedient and haughty.
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God , the scriptures speak to you who sit with much anticipation awaiting your riches, for the foolish man seeks after temporal things for he has no heart for God because he is spiritually dead. Quickly, defend these fools for you have no desire for godly wisdom nor to glorify Him, for you have only contempt for spiritual knowledge and wisdom.
Rylucero 3 months ago
Woe unto you false prophets and false teachers who deceive the spiritually dead and pervert the word of God, the scriptures speak to you who do not abide in His word but in folly, for the word speaks to your foolishness, cry out to your god of carnality, lay low below your altar of deceit for you are but a fool, prone to falsehood. A man's pride shall bring him low, but honor shall uphold the humble in spirit. “Proverbs 29:23
Rylucero 3 months ago
I am wondering why he said this? I am aware that in the US, there is often the view that Christians must vote for Christian leaders in government. Maybe Joel supported this guy, then tried to placate people with the "Christians for Christians" view?
sarahscollage 3 months ago
As it is written, "Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?" Proverbs 20:6
So Mormons continually proclaim their own goodness but remain un-repentant of their idolatry.
And they have a history of mocking Christians, in fact even delight in mocking Christians.
kjvjay 3 months ago
@kjvjay I have spent time with them, again on Sunday, and i question their Gospel Principal class teacher, and every question i give, he cannot answer with confidence. Especially when it comes to God not knowing Adam and Eve were going to sin. Their Plan of Salvation. Testing ground theory. Most of it comes from the the BOM and not the hebrew scriptures. They don't study the bible like the Jehovah Witnesses do.
queue555 3 months ago
You are so right, seriously those mormons calling themselves christians,..being taught to Love one another, so serve one another, learning to repent, keeping the commandments of God, Going to services every week, abstaining from substances that can impair their bodies like drugs and alcohol, being involved in service projects, take care of the sick and the needy, pulling together humanitarian aid, learning to be more like our savior jeus christ, giving up 18 months to 2 years of our lives. exact
koria1119 3 months ago
Oh my GOODNESS<, people keep taking parts of facts and twisting them. You have nothing BETTER to do than to tear someone else's religion. that is someone's belief. whether you believe or not, that is your own choice, but to tear down someone else's faith it heartless. Mormon's believe in christ, our church name isn't mormon;s, it's the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. and no Buddhist will go to hell, they are so much more kind and loving than the "christian" who posted this video
koria1119 3 months ago
Nonsense based on nonsense. Leave the past in the past, people.
r3ggi3000 3 months ago
I think you have the mind of Christ, on this one.
88momart 3 months ago
Joel Osteen is about as much of a true leader of Christianity as I am the Grand Imperial wizard of the Alabama sect of the KKK...and no...I'm not White.
p32charge 3 months ago 6
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them." Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)
True Christians are to expose heretics and false prophets so that others are not decieved or led astray. It is UN-Christlike to do nothing.
Jesus didn't just sit around and let evil be evil.
Bless you antioch7.
XBleach88X 3 months ago
Heretic. He has no truth in him. He preaches a watered down gospel and new age heresies. He doesn't want to offend anyone so that the can keep the money coming in. The only thing on is mind is money. Let him be accursed or truly saved.
XBleach88X 3 months ago
Whoever made this video fights against the plan of God and his angels and will be held accountable before God on the last day and will be one to profess before the Father ,"lord, lord," but jesus will say,"depart from me you who work iniquity I never knew you."
He knows nothing about mormonism. Like all those who find Jesus Christ, by whatever way you might, the true Christ will meet you in Glory and testify to your soul he lives. So will he testify of all truth especially the book of mormon
jkulesha 4 months ago
Sounds like someone had bad experience at Temple.
xWittgensteinx 4 months ago
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How do you know Jesus isn´t ok with it? Because Jesus said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)
Jesus of Nazareth is not the Mormon Jesus. The Mormon, in Mormon writings, is the older brother of Lucifer.
For God so loved the world, that he gave HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
The Mormon Jesus never existed.
kjvjay 5 months ago
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kjvjay 5 months ago
How do you know Jesus isn´t ok with it? For obbeying a commandment? Lds is best described as monolatrism. Antioch is an ignoramus or is lying.
This is another sensationalist video that uses an eerie music in order to get a negative effect in the audience .
dorisfenella 5 months ago
It is fitting that the poster of this video be called Antioch7 being that is where the outsiders of the church called the Saints "Christians" for the first time, and that is how they've been known by outsiders to Christ's church ever since, not as Saints.
1 Corinthians 3:
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
TennesseeSaint 6 months ago
Why do you think your personal interpretation of the bible is the correct one? One can form any kind of conclusion and graft scriptures to support their opinion. Hence the vast number of churches with differing dogmas reading from the same bible. So again I ask you, Why do you think your interpretation of the bible is the correct one?
geezmaynard 6 months ago
watch Joseph Prince on youtube! for knowing grace ppl
ilSomli 6 months ago
watch Joseph Prince on youtube!
ilSomli 6 months ago
It makes me sick to read comments defending Joel's opinion...you who do so are defending a man, OVER the truth in God's Word. Where is your loyalty to Christ? One comment called you "unChristlike" for exposing Joel's viewpoint...obviously from someone who doesn't read or esteem the Bible. It says, "Mark them (make note of; expose) which cause division (false doctrine) and avoid them. You ARE being Christlike when you obey the Word!
88momart 6 months ago
LIAR! You say Mormons deny the cross of Christ and that His blood is insufficient. That is an absolute LIE and you will be judged for being a hater. We know Christ died on the cross. We dont celebrate the cross or wear it around our necks because we worship the LIVE Jesus, the resurrected one. His blood did pay the price for OUR sins. We are the ones that are insufficient and need his atonement and blood to be forgiven. You are not even close to being an example of Christ. REPENT!
sirjamez41 7 months ago