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  • What part of "the voters decided this" is so offensive to some people? How is it that the demands of a small minority mean more than the rights of the majority to decide how their society will function?

    There is no reason to hate, only excuses. The future has no place for hate, equality means you have the right to function under that same laws as everyone else. Live with it, Then live and let live.

    Stop looking to tell the rest of society that there way is wrong and they should live like you.

  • If we are allowing gays to roam the streets, why not Pedophiles .

  • @pudgypopo11 pedophilia is wrong, illegal, and harms children

  • The fundamental queers forcing homosexual politics and homosexual tolerance religion must go.

  • California will not use the Supreme Court to change our national marriage policy. These homosexual terrorist just won't stop. We need to get rid if the queer terrorists or our republic shall fall to terrorism.

  • @ToxicOdiousOne agreed. the terrorists must go. These fundamentalist christians can go join the fundamentalist muslims in the middle east. They'd probably fit in a lot better there

  • @ToxicOdiousOne the only ones deserving the "terrorist" remark are you anti gay people

  • I agree in the judge's ruling. All Humans should be given the freedom to do as they wish in their life. It is in the constitution and freedom is the American way.

    However, this will not change the behavior of the gay community. They will continue their lifestyle of promiscuity, alcoholism, & clubbing.

    Believe in god or not, but gay people will just have to accept the fact that the human race is created to endorse marriage between a Man & Woman. And nothing will ever compensate for that.

  • Gays don't deserve civil rights based on sexuality. That's socialism. Minority rights are bullshit. Equal justice not social justice under law.

  • Now the progressives will use the Supreme Court to force their progressive ideology on all states and all Americans. We are not a far left socialist hellhole. If Caligornia loves homosexuality fine, but don't force my state to accept it.

  • @ToxicOdiousOne this isn't about what California "loves", if it was gay marriage would still be illegal since Calif voters voted it down, it's about civil rights, which are too important to be decided by the "will of the people". Sorry buddy, but you and your state can believe what it wants, but that doesn't mean to get to imposs that belief on others.

  • marriage is beautiful, i don't see any reason why should people deprive it from gay people. It doesn't hurt anyone, their practicing monogamy. so what?

  • gay marriage is an ABOMINATION there isn't no DISCRIMINATION PERIOD. the only ones who discriminate are faggots or gays who force their sick crap on everyone else. if the majority VOTES against the fuckheads, the majority rules in a fucking democracy. for you faggots, you will be fought in a future war against your sick kind you fucking dictators!

  • @rodentgungfu The only one's forcing anything on anybody are the people who try to FORCE gays to give in to their presonal preference, reguardless of the fact that it has no effect on their life. Bottom line: Gays getting married DOESN'T you. You banning marriage to gays DOES affect them. You don't have to like homosexuality, but you need to accept the fact that they deserve equal rights.

  • I am a hetereosexual and I believe in Separation of Church and State. You cannot shove YOUR RELIGION that NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH IN PEOPLES FACE! There are different branches of Christianity! Episcopalians pick their own priests, popes, AND chior directors. I am from San Mateo county near SF originally and I have been around gays since a young kid and it has never hurt me to be around gays. The bible was NOT meant to be taken literally and people convert their religion all the time.

  • Christianity is the most world wide religion but it is NOT the only one. Christianity, Hinduism, Muslim, Budiasm, agnostic, atheist. I am for equality. You cannot just pick and choose the parts of the bible you like the sound of. The bible condones slavery, it says not to eat selfish, but it also says treat people the way you want to be treated. Independence Day: "Our nation, under god, liberty and justice for all" The bible was written so long ago! Just throw YOUR bible away and use logic

  • and reason. You cannot be conservative with some things and liberal with others. Pick one or the other!

  • Yay for Prop 8

  • Jesus Christ taught truth but often approached those around him with love and discipline. To use hateful, demeaning words that belittle someone is not the message or way of Jesus Christ. We as Christians can stand firm for what we believe in, but that doesn't mean we have to be rude, obnoxious and ignorant. This is a changing world and it's not always going to be as conservative as many Christians might like to think. God Bless to you all, I wish everyone the best.

  • I am a Christian, and I have this to say. No, I do not personally believe in gay marriage. But, who am I to decide how others live their lives?

    Also, I know that our population today looks to Christians to find out who God is. We should be the salt to the earth, so says the bible, and I believe in that. But not all Christians are truly Christians. Please do not judge God or Christianity as a whole based on those that decide to use hateful words to spread their message.

  • Why are you so interested in this issue? Don't you have anything better to do? ... like beat your wife, slap your kids around, clean your trailor ....

  • So, because in the bible, there's no conversation where Jesus is verbally gay-bashing someone, that makes it right for you to do so here, you misguided hypocrit? I don't recall any conversations between Jesus and encyclopedia salesmen, but that doesn't mean you should be verbally assaulting them. Jeez .... You must be very poorly educated. Did you even earn a high school diploma? You don't seem to be able to use logic and you use your Bible to hide behind your bigotry and hatred.

  • ugh! You're a Christian? I'm glad I'm not one, because if most of them are as vile and hateful as you, I surely don't want to be with you in your so-called afterlife in heaven. Jeez, you're completely demented. (I can imagine Jesus walking around Jersusalem .. talking the way you do on here! .. ha! You're such a hypocrit!)

  • Alright , this non-discussion is getting more ridiculous with each comment. I don't believe in God, so I'm not afraid of Him destroying me (nor do I think he would if he did exist). But .... shouldn't you be worried about him destroying you?

  • Thebasher: So let's see, you advocate killing gay people. Why stop there? Who else do you hate? Let's have them killed too! And what about you? Are you sure your group wouldn't be next? By the way you write English, you sound foreign. Who's to say that you don't belong to some group that will become hated also. Wow! This is sounding more and more like Hitler's Germany! (He hated gays too and put them in concenetration camps ... along with MANY other non-Aryan people.)

  • Marriage is defined as a monogamous union between a man and a woman under the authority of God for the purposes of pro-creation.

    It has nothing to do with governments or equality. It is about providing a child with the proper upbringing and balance only a mother and a father can give. We have turned this issue into a "what about my rights" issue. What this is really about is the children. If we pay attention to the reason for marriage, we would learn to understand it better.

  • Bosco, you are wrong. Not all people enter into marriage to raise children. If that were the case, we would ban couples for marrying and remaining childless. Two people are allowed in our day in age (atheists can get married too, so leave god out of it!) to marry if they simply love each other and want to spend their lives together .... with or without children.

  • You can stick to your definition if you want to. But, your approach has a 65% failure rate. Those that follow my definition have a 92% success rate.

    Those that do not plan to pro create are not truly married under my definition Those that do not marry under god are also not truly married. They are in civil unions communing together. Love is not enough to get a couple through the tough times. There must be a firm foundation. That foundation is God.

  • We do not live in a theocracy .. You cannot include god in your definition. Not everyone believes in God (16% and rising in America). We are a SECULAR nation. If you want to live in a theocracy, try Iran. I hear that's a nice place to live in religious homogeny.

  • The proper definition of marriage is independent of a nation. It is also independent of any man made laws and social norms. It is pure and simple, the way Love should be. Society in America tends to shroud love and marriage in materialism and godless selfishness. Divorce is an example of man's selfishness. It is only when we turn to a higher power that the correct path in life reveals itself. May God be with you during your time of need.

  • "how california goes, so does the nation"

    thats true, look what happened to connecticut, iowa and vermont!

  • What part of the word EQUALITY is so offensive to some people? Why is it so important to keep discrimination alive and well?

    There are no reasons for hate, only excuses. The future has no place for hate. Equality is coming. Live with it. Then live and let live.

    Stop looking for people to look down upon. Getting along is a natural instinct, not getting along is a learned behavior, and it's of no benefit at all.

    Stop teaching hate, then coming generations have fewer problems to face!

  • It's very simple. If you don't believe in same sex marraige, then don't marry someone of the same sex! I just can't understand why people get up in arms over shit that don't even effect them!

  • Is a sailboat an ocean liner? Let's stick with the language we've all agreed to use. Words mean things. If you can change a word to make it mean whatever you want, then so can I. For that matter, so can anyone. So someone might decide to change it to mean it's ok to marry their mom. and if "love is love", maybe someone really loves their dog,or sheep. When you leave a door open, there's just no telling who might walk through. Leave words alone. They mean things. Civil unions are cool.

  • Why are people being so anal about this? If you don't wanna get married to another guy/girl then fuck off and don't get married. Holy shit, is it that hard?

  • We are all sinners. There is no shame in being different. The hypocrites among us are deserving of true shame.

    Sexual attraction is not a choice, it is genetic. There is no "nurture" issue or identity crisis. Stop preaching bullshit as a replacement for scientific facts.

    Stop talking about "homosexual activists", when refering to the masses who disagree with faith-based BS. Sexuality is what it is, it never changes.

    Hate is a choice, and YOU consciously made it. God is innocent!

  • Right...challenge homosexuality your instantly a hater.

    Yes science of the mind has so come so far that it has mountains of evidence suggesting homosexuality is not a choice. I would love to see the empirical, unbias, conrcrete evidence of this like liberals demand of Christians about God.

  • Very little (if any) weight will be carried by explaining away the self-serving, egotistical, hateful, inequality-hailing with Biblical "proof" of what God wants.

    Stop using God as a human shield when engaging in anti-gay terrorism. Equality is coming, with or without the support of a small minority of bigots.

    There are no reasons for hate, only excuses, and the bigots are fast rnning out of excuses.

    Look for major changes come November! Hate is dying, going down kicking and screaming.

  • Since marriage is between a man and a woman, why dont they just make up another thing for gays, like a life partnership or something, why do you want to ruin what helped this country flourish and flush it down the drain, if we had so many queers we could not flourish (no procreation) I thank God homos are a very very small minority of the population, and why don't we just bring homosexual marriage to a national vote, I know what the outcome would be, homos couldnt get married, simple as that!!!!

  • It is amazing how whenever homosexuality is mentioned or dealt with, pedophilia, beastiality, or sex w/ inaminate objects is mentioned. I never knew these things were linked. Tell me, what are you all so afraid of? Most Americans agree that segragation of African Americans was and is wrong, so why is it alright to segregate homosexuals from the right to marriage and a life like anyone else?Will we start making them eat at the back of restaurants or use different bathrooms? what is normal anyway?

  • Normal? How about over 2000 years of a bond between a man and a woman, i would say thats pretty normal! Wat if your "dads or moms" were gay,then no one would have to read your idiotic comments! because you wouldnt be here,and another thing, Can you name me a civilization that is living today and is flourishing that embraced homosexuality as a whole? You cannot because there isnt 1!! Why dont we bring gay marriage to a national vote, then we'll see wat the American people have to say about homos!

  • First of all, there is no need to be hostile. I simply asked several logical questions. Secondly, homosexuality has flourshed in the past (Such as with the Greeks) and still does today in cerain African tribes. The reason civilizations with acceptance of this act are no longer present is b/c of religion and peer pressure. Besides, why do you care what goes on behind someone's closed doors as long as it is not hurting anyone?

  • is somthing nice whan tow people gate merid and start the life tougever, is not importante if is gay.....the love is importante.

  • God or no God, Equality is the right thing.

    God or no God, segregation is wrong.

    God or no God, slavery is wrong.

    God or no God, fairness is right.

    God or no God, social justice is right.

    Does your faith in God dictate unfairness, inequality or any other kind of social injustice? Does your faith teach treating others unfairly? If you answer YES, then perhaps you need to examine your faith, because it is not in accord with common sense.

  • Actually the bible states homosexuality is wrong, look what happened to the city of Sodom, homosexuality overran the city and it was destroyed, also Can you name a civilization living today and flourishing that embraced homosexuality as a whole? I can already give you the answer, NO!!! because there isn't one!

  • Polkadotbox2, how do you know what is right or wrong. If common sense dicates morality than why is it so subjective to different people?

    And "faith" has played a role in the forming of our country. So lets not be so harsh about faith.

  • Pissing vinegar is no contributio to YouTube. Get smething useful and uplifting to the table, then demand to be included in any "discusssion".

    The problem with being gay is that there is no problem. Stinkers and hate mongers are experts at fixing what was never broken.

    You need no Bible or religion to know that equality is the right thing. You do need these man made, artificial tools to desperately convince people that wrong is right.

    Grow up. Then live and let live! Hate has no future.

  • Vinegar? Please. Youtube is a place to throw your opinions and I see countless liberals pooring out their grievances to "self righteous" "Christian" "NEOCONS"...

    The problem with being gay is it isn't proven that people are born gay....as it isn't proven that people are born pedophiles.

    And our forefathers did refer to the bible for equality concepts and a Creator. And you have no basis for equality outside of that.

  • gay people are not sane people. they are sick people...we might as well let every pedophile marry 10 year olds......it's just sickening. when november rolls around....Californians will stand up for our state and shut this down!

  • Why should we ban gay marriage...We gay's deserve just as much love as you and you Straight People...

  • Well guess what, after the vote, Gays won't be able to get married in California Thank God.

  • To bigrobmjca and all CA voters:

    The BEST way to hasten NATIONALIZATION of gay marriage is to vote IN FAVOR of amending the CA constitution to ban gay marriage.

    If you succeed, gays will then appeal this tyrannical abuse of majority power against an innocent minority to the Federal courts (under the US Constitution). The Feds will then issue a gay version of Loving v. Virgina (which is inevitable after Lawrence v. Texas).

    PRESTO, gay marriage will be NATIONAL--all as a result of your hate!

  • Wait... was that family values guy saying CA residents have to have a policy of same-sex marriage... I live in CA and no one is making me marry a girl..

  • This is flat out heartbreaking.

  • Hahahaha suck it douche bag. I would love to shoot you in the face.

  • Stop your wining liberal pussy.

  • Who's whining jackass? Pretty sure the only one whining here is your fat ass. You're crying about the court's decision! Wah wah wah! Cry me a river conservative tight ass. Go walk into traffic, or have your gun toting uncle/boyfriend shoot you with his assault rifle.

  • Gays keep complaining that they want to get married. Marriage is between a man and a woman. It has been for hundreds of years, gay marriage is wrong. I don't hate gays, but still, marriage is between a man and a woman.

  • And marriage is between a white man and a white woman, right? And we should all have slaves. Go put your dick in your bible.

  • Why do haters NEVER contribute anything? All they do is complain and spew their bigoted propaganda. They never share any of their own videos.

    If you have only garbage to "share", you shouldn't attend any pot luck events! YouTube is about friends, about caring, about sharing joy and smiles. There is nothing anyone gains from the fundamentalist hate mongers.

    You shouldn't join friendly gatherings, if hate is your favority topic!

    PEACE!

  • As A Californian< this is a great day for America.

  • It's a horrible day.

  • If 80% of Americans voted to re-instill slavery, it would not make it just, ethical or moral.

    Even with 99% aproval you cannot refuse the right of others, the rights of all consenting adults should be respected, and as, I assume, a Conservative you should respect the notion that government should get out of social matters as it should with buisness.

  • I agree. Look how much trouble it has caused in the past when the government intervenes when it shoudln't.

  • Same sex marriage is an oxymoron...if you follow the HOMO logic...civilization would eventually end

    Gay's already have the same rights as everyone else, they are men and women, they are Americans...isn't that enough?

    Or do you need your own set of so-called rights? truly pathetic

  • how is marriage a different set of rights?by asking for the right to marry gays are asking only for the rights that straight citizens already have, nothing more.

    I would also like to ask,what is the HOMO logic and how would civilization end.If there are straight couples in this world,which there always will be,civilization will go on.

    For someone to go through all this work to take away rights of a minority group is what i consider truly pathetic.

  • my last two comments were aimed at globalgringo and JTURBVILLE.. for some reason it made a whole new comment instead of replying.

  • Civilization would end because HOMO couples by nature cannot procreate and don't even start with the adoption stuff.

    The heavily funded HOMO agenda is not just about marriage but about the boy scouts, the Catholic church...anyone that doesn't submit to their agenda is attacked and marriage is just one stop along the way.

    How about teaching kids down to the Kindergarten level tolerance for HOMOsexuality? It is reprehensible and a disgrace to to our culture.

  • you people are crazy. gtfo.

  • I think people like you globalfringo is a disgrace to human race and human values. You dont have a clue of what you are talking about by just sayinig that gay couples would cause civilization to end. How about teaching kids tolerance PERIOD? Doesnt have to be only to homosexuals only, but to people different than themselves? I hope you dont have kids. If you do, Im very sorry for them.

  • Civilization will come to an end, like it or not, with our without gay marriage, but thats not the case. Heterosexual couples will always be there. We are not asking for them to stop existing or anything like that.

    Kids need to learn tolerance and I hope it is not from people like you who lacks of it. Again, I sincerely hope you are not a teacher or have kids. If so, Im very sorry for them.

  • Tolerance is code for HOMO agenda

    Kids need to learn math, language and science

    Keep your bath house out of the school house!

  • LOL you are nuts bud... Who is talking about teaching kids about bath houses? They will learn about that when they get older. Tolerance is what you get when people hear your nonsense bulshit, otherwise you would be in the hospital very often.

  • I am sharing the sentiments of the majority of those who do not want the HOMO agenda promoted in grade schools under the guise of tolerance.

    The only people that will learn about bath houses when they get older are the same type of people that got infected in these Castro incubation chambers.

  • Oh really? was there an election in the anti-tolerance party that you represent? You are too much. I think you know about bath houses since you mentioned... hummm I wonder why...

    I think the only ones infected here are people like you who have only hate for others and have no idea what the bible is about and use it to push your hatred agenda. Again, Im sorry for your kids (if you have or ever had).

  • I am not aware of them rejecting getting tested, but that must have been 25-30 year ago. I think things are bit different now with all the knowledge about HIV/AIDS which affects EVERYONE.

  • not everyone is gay, thus civilization would not end. whether gays get married or not they are still gay and are not going to have children. The birth rate will be the same.

    What exactly is this "HOMO agenda". My only "agenda", if thats what you want to call it, is to be treated the same as everyone else. There is no conspiracy to turn everyone gay like some suggest.

    And why not teach kindergarten students tolerance. How is tolerance a disgrace to the US. Intolerance and bigotry is a disgrace.

  • The fact that you think it is okay to teach HOMO acceptance at the Kindergarten level says everything needed to know about you

  • The minority needs protection from the "moral majority" from time to time. Never leave people's right's in the hands of the people.

  • but of course you think its ok to teach kids in kindergarten not to hate people of another race right? A lot of kindergarten is about learning social skills, not just reading writing and arithmetic. But if you could, could you tell me just ONE reason why tolerance should not be taught?

  • One Reason:

    Tolerance is killing this country!

  • As far as i can tell tolerance has done the complete opposite. It saves this country and the lives of people in it. I would like to know how it is killing this country.. unless your reason is because god will punish us like sodom and gomorrah, then i dont want to hear it.

  • Go die idiot

  • the only reason that obama and clinton are "against gay marriage", the one and only reason, is because they need the votes of people that are against it. Panddering politicians. I can't believe these are our choices for president. Are culture is dying. Everything is poloiticezed. Our borders our open for millions of mexicans to come here and our crime rates are going through the roof because of the nortenos and sureno gangs. and Obabma wants to negotiate with Iran? what the hell is this crap!

  • This is perfect. Democrats are behind this whole thing and as Obama and Clinton distance themselves from it, it has been approved by liberal activist judges, liberal lawyers representing the gay mafia, and the hippie liberal state of California. The fact that we Californians voted against this by 60% in 2001 and the courts decided, "we were wrong," the whole entire conservative base is going to come in November and vote...for president too. Thanks for this liberals. Your done in November.

  • no need to insult any of the parties

    (pro-gay, anti-gay marriage), as it reflects your inability to reason. and without resonable opinions, you are out of the race! as to whether or not there will be people born in the future, well, you can't force anyone to behave gay or straight nowdays, and straight couples will continue to produce gay and straight children like they've always have, as well as unwanted children that will now be able to be adopted by MARRIED gay couples. :-)

  • your the dumbass linu86, they are fuckin gay!!! Are the Fags going to sleep with with the lesbos??? Think about it you dumbass!!!!!

  • He means new gay children will be born into this nation even if all of the current gays and lesbians are shipped off.

  • why did it took 300 years to liberate african-americans? that shit was unconstitutional too.

    gays aren't messing with the sactity marriage, because it is not religion they want the recognition from, but the recognition of their own country, and politics has nothing to do with religion, as stated in our constitution. your religion can still reject gay marriage, but don't mix it with the civil rights.

  • The people of the state of California voted in the 2000 referendum for California to only recognize the marriage of a man and women a.k.a "The Gay Marriage Ban" as the TV and newspaper media calls it. But the gays in San Francisco have defied and defied court ruling after court ruling and now the Supreme Court of California has ruled in favor of the gays in San Francisco thus opposing the will of the people of California. If it was unconstitutional, why so long 8yrs later?

  • All lesbos and faggots should be shipped to a big island faraway. then they will soon be dead,and the world will be rid of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • and what about those who will be born? it is not a disease, you know? you can't eliminate something that happens naturally. homosexuality happens in 35 species outside ours, and these are species that are very close to us, all mammals. the "world" won't get rid of "them" it is haters like you that want to get rid of them. just take your time and ask yourself why you hate homosexuals so much.

  • no, becuz new children will be born u dumbass!

  • So what news is the government distracting us from? In the last eight years, EVERYTIME this issue, or some attempt to repeal Roe vs. Wade comes up; there were bigger troubles i.e. bad economic news. The idiot bible thumpers play into it too easily. I'm sorry to gays and women who need abortions for suffering this nonsense. Our taxes should only go to recognizing civil unions, no court fees for divorce, alimony, estate transfers, child support No tax breaks for couples. ...straights ruined that.

  • The world is going to Hell.

    Mark 1:14-15.

  • hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah­hahahaha

  • Keep your religion to yourself.

  • the courts decission not mine to say but what if the court who made this decission was a homosexual or lesbian them self?

    I guess this would take strong effect wouldnt it. The person i think who made the decission just proably did not want to be bothered like pontius pilate when they made the decission to kill jesus. Guess what happens after that decssion.

  • Whats The Big Deal. This Whole Issue Can Be Easily Settled. Let Laws Be Put Into Effect That To Create A Seperate Community And Apportion These People Their Own Nation Or Sovereign Republic. In 100 Years They Will Literally Be Extinct Disproving Their Whole Argument And Resolving The Matter.

  • why do you capitalize every word?

  • No gay marriage-No same sex parents raising children.

    Bring it on mother-fuckers!!

  • We did. We won.

  • Well see when the gunsmoke clears.

    Nobody wants this abberant shit thrown in their faces stay in the closet faggots.

  • I tink all the judges that rule in favor as well against the ban know the constitution better than anyone of us commenting right now. and it was them who concluded the ban was unconstitutional. so, you just have to suck it up!

  • First, California voters in 2000 voted to preserve the sanctity of marriage or as the media and liberals call it, 'the gay marriage ban'. That was 8 years ago and for 8 years it wasn't unconstitutional. Second, the Supreme Court voted 4-3 in favor of the San Francisco gays, so not all the justices were in full agreed for the SF gays or that "the gay marriage ban" was unconstitutional.

  • As big an asshole as Falwell was he had the balls to tell the truth about the judgment that has fallen on the US. This gay shit is str8 up twisted as it is. Now they are legal?

    Fuck the courts..hang these judge bastards.

  • Fuck the courts. How in hell do they have the ability to overrule the democratic process and the decisin of over 60% of the states voters. If this goes through you can expect another major earthquake to hit San Fagcisco soon.

  • "How in hell do they have the ability to overrule the democratic process"

    When it infringes on other peoples civil rights you dumb fuck.

  • Go study the democratic process before you open your mouth. Gay marriage has nothing to do with civil rights nor can you compare the faggot agenda to the plight of my people.

  • Oh my gosh, the combination of you clearly unthought out statements and your run on sentences is just too comedic for words.

  • And your feeble attempts to justify indecent behavior is a joke.

  • Your inability to explain, really, anyone's inability to explain, what constitutes 'indecent' makes all your words worthless.

  • too bad i find that family council guy very attractive.

  • 2 states down, 48 to go :)

  • You ain't gettin' the South baby, not over our southern' dead bodies. Our grandparents are spinning around in their graves! I pray to God Gay Marriage is never leagalized in the South.

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