@eddiehellboy why? is it because we choose not to do drugs or drink alcohol. not all straight edge kids go around preaching it like its a religion. if you drink and smoke around me i could care less its your choice to do that stuff and my choice not to.
i am starting now to believe they are the best band in the world, keep hearing great tunes that were used on all my old school bmx and skate vids ...amazing energy
i really think the beauty of this band is that they gave you the opportunity to make a CHOICE. never force fed ideas or ideologies...there arent bands like this anymore
@mihalusj Well they had, arguably, a huge influence on GY!BE who assumed an identity with no apparent definition. Amazing bands! And now GY!BE are reuniting (for who knows how long), so we may have hope again! :)
I want to do drugs all the time. Fuck straight edge people. Don't fucking tell me how to live my life. And fuck your thumbs down as well. Stick your thumb up your ass.
@RubenKrakenable the first straight edge person who doesn't have their morals rammed up their ass. do your thing don't press on others you got the right idea!
@RubenKrakenable forgive me for asking , but what has straight edge got to do with fugazi??..wasn't that a 'minor threat' ethos from the 80's??..I don't ever remember Fugazi championing the straight edge thing...
@jaytv777 My comment was a response to someone who felt they were being oppressed by straight edge. YT lays out the history of comments in a stupid way so it ends up looking like a random war cry for straight edge, but the original comment is down there.. somewhere. The soapbox comment was for both sides.
Why are you talking about this in a Fugazi vid commentary field? I never got this. Yeah, Mackaye wrote the initial song called "straight edge", but he never told a single person to adhere to the idea - people jumped the bandwagon because of the ridiculously misconstrued general perception of the song - they turned the song into basically a rallying banner for assholes. I'll agree, with one caveat - fuck the straight edge MOVEMENT, not the IDEA. If you wanna do drugs, suit yourself, whatever.
thumbs down come from ignonat fugazi internet warriors who equate nugent with his politics, not music, and as disciples of all things p.c., they must look down their noses at such facts, and in the typical liberal way, they try to supress the facts they don't like, in this case by using the thumbs down.
for some lucky reason, i got to sit behind the drummer with my girlfriend at the time while they played a show at my undergrad (CMU strangely). it was pretty amazing. i don't think anyone was as prepared as they should have been at the time.
geez...all that's being pointed out candygirl is "are they doing it for the money" or are they doing it for "art's sake." Fugazi did it for art's sake. take it or leave it.
Just so you know, I wasn't talking about Fugazi at all. A bunch of people were getting on my case for listening to pop music. That's what the discussion was about, and I was upset that people were so irritated with my personal musical taste. I was also upset that they were talking about hating pop music when people should just be appreciating Fugazi. You might know that if you looked a few pages back. =]
Oh and I absolutely agree that Fugazi did it for art's sake, etc - but I have to point out that I'm a boy. Don't judge a book by its cover and don't judge a person by a few sentences. You have some nice musical taste there, by the way.
Is it me or are there too many musicians in the USA. 8 million musicians on myspace. I mean that could be worldwide but if thats just the USA then that is way too many.
i assume that PATD means Panic at the disco. yeah, they fucking SUCK. I am from Vegas, and there's a reason why they got a bottle thrown at their head. Its cuz they suck.
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Don't feel bad... I like P!ATD as well. In fact, I might get to see them this weekend. Calm down - not every person who loves Fugazi hates pop music. [But it seems most do]
haha - that's fine. I don't really care if pop music is "real" or not. I don't understand why people focus their disdain on silly pop music when another pop group will take it's place in 6 months, maybe 1 year's time. Oh - and your reply was pretty unimaginative. One time I got this: "PATD is just Fall Out Boy with keyboards." Note the snarkiness and the humor.
There's a difference between pop that is meant to be bubbly, and then pop that's posing as art. That is where pop-acts like falloutboy,hawthorne heights, Tokio, Panic should be lined up and shot. repeatdely. They've fooled a generation of kids into thinking that they're making 'real' deep stuff when all it is stock-catchy hooks and beats, right off the assembly line.
If anyone should be shot, it should be the "original" and arrogant masses who are offended by such bands - for their immaturity and hypocrisy. Perhaps it's just me, but reality is pretty much boring and pointless - what's wrong with listening to fun music that makes you laugh, cry, and dance around [with or without irony]? I see "pop that's posing as art" as an art in itself - and much more entertaining than the remarks of [bitter, "witty" and "subversive"] pseudo-intellectual hipsters.
If you consider lazy song writing "real music" then go ahead, enjoy the modern pop punk bands. Enjoy what they give you, they've put a lot of hard work into it (sarcasm).
Placing the word 'sarcasm' in parentheses was redundant. Fugazi is one of my favourite bands, not only for their musicianship but also for their ethics; I also like [supposedly bad] pop music. I'm sorry that offends you so much, but for your own sake get a grip and whine about something with ACTUAL meaning. [Can I get an amen?] It only shows shallowness, arrogance and a narrow-mind when one thinks they are an objective source when it comes to deeming what is "real music" and what is not.
Those pop bands you're talking about are whoring out an image, attitude and sound that is utterly antithetical to what they create. The value of pop-art is that is it an attack on the commercialization of 'value'. These bands aren't making pop-art, because they're not in on the joke. They're just cashing in.
You can't get an amen, b/c the argument is about the value of principles & ethics. Go to Wall St for an amen for short-sighted self-interest.
If someone else cashes in, that's their affair, not mine. I understand what you are saying - and I agree - but whether someone is anti-material or raking in millions, it doesn't really matter. Everyone is still stuck in this capitalistic society. Look at your own values before you judge others. You're so upset that I choose to defend pop bands - but mostly likely your whole life is built on the cheap labor of others so you can live in a home, eat food, and own a tv. Open your own eyes.
What can we do? Well, we have a lot of options. I am still trying to decide which socialist/anarchist philosophy is the best. I like making decisions for myself - clearly the majority of the people on here do not. They get upset about pop music when they should be worrying about important issues if they are against commercialism, etc. - such as the existence of first and third world nations, poverty, free trade, eradication of human rights, and other REAL crises.
You're never powerless as long as you have your own beliefs, and ideas. The best way you can protest against society is within your own mind. I'm a completely non-violent person, but I think it's okay for people to resist with force if necessary. Yeah - I'm "just a kid" too but at least we're wise enough to see that arguing about petty things is pointless. I love this band and I don't know why everyone is so concerned about what other music I listen to.
Don't you know catsboyscandy that people are not concerned about the world and it's fate or their part in it, they just care about arguing on YouTube...obviously...
Oh no, I thought that as well because people endlessly responded to one comment I made. From there it spiraled out of control. As with any other addiction, I have a bad habit of defending myself.
I'm not really concerned with other people's ignorance, as sad as it may be. It's more like OCD. That and I prefer to have the last word, especially in arguments where the opposition is obscene. It seems that we are rather similar - we even have the same background color.
Its not about materialism, its about sincerity in art and the creative abilities of the 'artist.' Those bands aren't artists simply because they're not creating anything. The fact that their business (and it is primarily a business endeavor for them), is based on exploiting a pre-existing 'style' that is completely antithetical to what they do (insincerity, self-interest, etc), is just insult on injury.
I've lived in the US and willingly in relative poverty in the 3rd world. I'm wide awake
No - materialism was brought into the picture with "cashing in" and "selling out". You could just as well say that there are hardly any artists today whatsoever. Based on your reasoning, all artists - painters, designers, writers, etc - are just doing what someone else has already done. For example, Shakespeare was a brilliant writer, but he was creative not original. I see pop as art because it's not being ignored - it's loved and hated.
I meant what I said. This lady with whom I was in an argument was saying "____ is not art because ___ is not creative". But she was also saying that "_____ is not art because ____ makes enormous profit/ _____ is not art because all that _____ cares about is making money". That would be materialism. We weren't talking about people buying what _____ were selling, but that could be implied. But her main concern was not consumerism at all, hence why I said her concern was materialism.
The philosophy of materialism holds that the only thing that can be truly proven to exist is matter, and is considered a form of physicalism. Fundamentally, all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions; therefore, matter is the only substance.
Your use of the word "materialism" was correct; " a preoccupation with or stress upon material rather than intellectual or spiritual things." One definition, the one you meant, refers to ethics. The other refers to metaphysics.
Nevertheless, I am always entertained by seeing devolution in action, in this case one moron "unteaching" another how to speak.
If you want my charity credentials, I too have lived in the 3rd world. I'm glad your awake. But that doesn't mean that your philsophy of art is correct. As you say, if one is not creating, it is not art. So iconoclasts' work and destructive propoganda is never art? I would strongly disagree. I'm not an idiot. I am erratic, but I am literate and able to construct my own thoughts. I find it ridiculous that there is such a fuss over pop. I thought people were entitled to their own opinion.
yeah, that pseudo-angst crap kills me. The bands that you listed all have the same azz formula. And if I hear one more person comparing these bands to the Clash and Sex Pisols...
Blink 182 was NOOOTHHHIINNGGG compared to Fugazi. Fugazi knew what they were doing, and they weren't concentrated on the money or trends, they were making REAL music with REAL meanings and messages. Any of you who think blink 182 matched or were better than Fugazi know absolutely nothing about music and the hard work behind it. Bands like Blink 182, Fallout boy, Panic at the disco and countless others incorporate lazy song writing. Don't ever say blink 182 was better than Fugazi.
i wouldnt call blink concentrated or trend or mony they genuinly wanted to have fun but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy different than the awesomeness that is fugazi
Well, at the beginning they may have been okay, but nearing the end of their career, it was quite obvious they were obeying what the record labels wanted. This was not the case with Fugazi. In my opinion, that's how you can tell the real music apart from the not-real music.
how can you compare stink 182 to the almighty fugazi....i grew up in MD 5 minutes from the dc line and let me tell you guys something...Ian and Fugazi are legends....blink is corporate bullcrap!
there was something really special about them. i've heard better songwriting, better lyrics, better playing, but nobody is fugazi...no one. they cannot be touched because they were for real. and when they clicked on a song, a part of me that doesn't have words went soaring. no other band could do that.
i think they were a musician's band. that's why a lot of people didn't "get" them. even the most pompous elitist musicians i know gave them their due, even if begrudgingly. God bless fugazi.
man do i feel sorry for whoever thinks fugazi sucks (cough, Bludshot15).. noone understands,, they want to sound sucky,,so sucky that it passes the limit of suckiness and goes back to being awesome,, their the best/worst band ever.. which makes them my favorite band, cuz they know exactly what their doing and why they do it,, their supposed to sound like that. fuck all you teeny boppers with your one hit wonder bands, go listen to blink 182 and simple plan. this is FUGAZI,get the fuck outta here
Blink were cool dudes I really respect them, even Tom still after that little mess. I don't believe they wrote songs just to make hits, that's just what they liked to write and what they grew up on. I completely agree about Simple Plan though they're so boring to listen to.
I might need to resort to a p2p to get some of this band....they dont exist in my town in any music store and I dont have a credit card so i am fucked until I find an album.
Occupy Wall Street, Occupy your mind. Break.
zipkid1973 2 months ago
Muchisimas Gracias, Companero; soy vamanos ahora.
goducks20101 3 months ago in playlist A Shread Head
I'm going to fail my first Law test from being too wrapped in Fugazi. So be it.
AwesumLittleRedTruck 3 months ago
Great pepper.
lachlanlol 4 months ago
why ya even talkin about straight edge fugazi aint got shit to do with that. your thinkin of minor threat.
gmoneykc 5 months ago
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cassioabrub 5 months ago
sxe more like minor not fugazi. and ian with hair, neato
these are words
etiquettefiend 6 months ago
We take apart everything we build
Had it right here but now it's gone
On and on....
BREAK!
selectAxyz 7 months ago
one of my favorite songs of all time. i miss fugazi.
audiodose 8 months ago
This music is FUCKING TIMELESS! I will always be able to sit down and just listen to any of Fugazi's music....
YummyBaer 8 months ago
I love you guys! Ive been a fan for over 20 years! Come to Montreal Duds! xox
Annikderek 9 months ago
1:26 is epic
davidfregoli 9 months ago
check treeburning if you like this band!!!!!!!!!!!!!
treeburning 11 months ago
i killed this track back in high schooll in my station waggg
ktbaby077 11 months ago
sounds like an earlier maps and atlases a lil bit after the begening.
rikochikoniko 11 months ago
1:02 looks like brian from weezer
rssnowblind0 1 year ago
Oh yes! I love this band.
sparkedindignation7 1 year ago
i dont care if they are straight edge, i love to listen to their music when im fucked up lmao
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The band named Rokujyouma pop of Japan has been influenced from Fugazi .
Their tunes are up-loaded to youtube and listen, please.
mizunobun4244 1 year ago
Jem Cohen is amazing
Boomoutgothelights 1 year ago
I like fugazi
MrCashbrat 1 year ago
really nice edit
stashews 1 year ago
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stashews 1 year ago
awesome fugazi <3
alineart4ever 1 year ago
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straight edge =fucking homos
eddiehellboy 1 year ago
@eddiehellboy people who can't accept anything that doesn't fit into their narrow world view = fucking useless idiots
jek21 1 year ago
@jek21 That can also go for people who are "straight edge"...just saying
Boomoutgothelights 1 year ago
@Boomoutgothelights It can go for anyone.
jek21 1 year ago
@eddiehellboy why? is it because we choose not to do drugs or drink alcohol. not all straight edge kids go around preaching it like its a religion. if you drink and smoke around me i could care less its your choice to do that stuff and my choice not to.
IxDropkickxBabies 1 year ago 2
@eddiehellboy That's a lie!I'm a homo,and I'm not straight edge.What's wrong with any of these,anyway?I don't feel wrong about any of my choices O..o
FunkyDonkey93 1 year ago
Really great band. They will always have a special place in my iPod.
spicyMcHAGGIS9green 1 year ago
i am starting now to believe they are the best band in the world, keep hearing great tunes that were used on all my old school bmx and skate vids ...amazing energy
astralplane47 1 year ago
Nice edit
ShopingHourer 1 year ago
One of the greatest bands ever...
mictactical0 1 year ago 2
El video es de la peli "Instrument"
suciotraporojo 1 year ago
Brian Barker wrote "Straight Edge" not Ian.
Ralelen 1 year ago
@Ralelen It's Brian BAKER and anyway, Ian wrote it, not Brian.
gripper61 1 year ago
i really think the beauty of this band is that they gave you the opportunity to make a CHOICE. never force fed ideas or ideologies...there arent bands like this anymore
mihalusj 1 year ago
@mihalusj Well they had, arguably, a huge influence on GY!BE who assumed an identity with no apparent definition. Amazing bands! And now GY!BE are reuniting (for who knows how long), so we may have hope again! :)
mikewtp 1 year ago
I think the random people in this video were standing in line in New York for a Fugazi show in 89 or something...wonder where they are now
ll3l3l3ll 1 year ago
break fugazi CD: End Hits
mostrooop 2 years ago
@mostrooop thanx for the info even though its not directed to me.
eytim 1 year ago
what song and/or album is this from
eytim 2 years ago
it doesnt matter what any of you guys say does it change anything? take what drug you like but youre still gunna die like the rest of us.
chach868 2 years ago
I am straight edge. I don't give a fuck what you do.
6shadow6lord6 2 years ago
Siempre impresionantes!!
POmarada1 2 years ago
Hey,drugs make the man,not the music.
SgtBastard101 2 years ago
I want to do drugs all the time. Fuck straight edge people. Don't fucking tell me how to live my life. And fuck your thumbs down as well. Stick your thumb up your ass.
jacob7207 2 years ago 9
Im not fuckin' straight edge! Im smokin' kind-bud as I type. What the Hell you talkin' about!
SgtBastard101 2 years ago 2
I was supporting what you said about drugs making the man not the music. I was shouting out to all the straight edgers out there.
jacob7207 2 years ago 3
Righty-O-Man!! Pass a lude,dude!
SgtBastard101 2 years ago
Straight edge is about choosing not to take drugs, not telling people what to do, so take a step off your soapbox.
RubenKrakenable 2 years ago 76
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I disagree.
jacob7207 2 years ago
Want to arm wrestle over it?
RubenKrakenable 2 years ago
ok, but make sure you inject your roids up and pop your speed pills because it will give you an edge.
jacob7207 2 years ago
@RubenKrakenable i meet these cats before 13 s and I LOVE DRUGS
jshroom32 1 year ago
@RubenKrakenable my bad ur reply isnt as my high mind saw earlier, all love
jshroom32 1 year ago
@RubenKrakenable I'm straight edge and I approve this message.
theghostsofgiants 1 year ago
@theghostsofgiants I can't say I'm Str8 edge, but I also approve this message
goducks20101 10 months ago
@RubenKrakenable the first straight edge person who doesn't have their morals rammed up their ass. do your thing don't press on others you got the right idea!
Jon0o0o 1 year ago
@RubenKrakenable forgive me for asking , but what has straight edge got to do with fugazi??..wasn't that a 'minor threat' ethos from the 80's??..I don't ever remember Fugazi championing the straight edge thing...
jaytv777 6 months ago
@jaytv777 My comment was a response to someone who felt they were being oppressed by straight edge. YT lays out the history of comments in a stupid way so it ends up looking like a random war cry for straight edge, but the original comment is down there.. somewhere. The soapbox comment was for both sides.
RubenKrakenable 6 months ago
@RubenKrakenable ahhh..now I geddit!..no offence intended just crossed wires! :)
jaytv777 6 months ago
@RubenKrakenable Yeah but you still get to brag that you're better than everyone because you've never smoked, drank, or done drugs.
64sebastianhoward 1 month ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Fugazi
Why are you talking about this in a Fugazi vid commentary field? I never got this. Yeah, Mackaye wrote the initial song called "straight edge", but he never told a single person to adhere to the idea - people jumped the bandwagon because of the ridiculously misconstrued general perception of the song - they turned the song into basically a rallying banner for assholes. I'll agree, with one caveat - fuck the straight edge MOVEMENT, not the IDEA. If you wanna do drugs, suit yourself, whatever.
trallala 2 years ago 13
Fugazi rules!
Such a respectable band...
kingaxochco 2 years ago 3
lub it
jenniefromtheblock08 2 years ago
if it wasn't for ted nuget fugazi wouldn't have existed so kids it all goes back to the nuge
FUNKEYED 2 years ago
I don't know why the thumbs down. True Story. Ted Nuget was a huge influence on ian mackaye
bahajala 2 years ago
thumbs down come from ignonat fugazi internet warriors who equate nugent with his politics, not music, and as disciples of all things p.c., they must look down their noses at such facts, and in the typical liberal way, they try to supress the facts they don't like, in this case by using the thumbs down.
ian is for truth not lies.
FUNKEYED 2 years ago 5
I'm a liberal (and into Fugazi) and you're exactly right about Ian being into Nugent. But what does that have to with me being liberal?
I gave you a thumbs up anyway.
gripper61 2 years ago
it has to do with nothing about you.
FUNKEYED 2 years ago
FLIPSIDE!
TotallyInsaneShane 2 years ago
I love the fact that all fugazi albums sound different. my all time favorite band.
xxcreate1xx 2 years ago 4
for some lucky reason, i got to sit behind the drummer with my girlfriend at the time while they played a show at my undergrad (CMU strangely). it was pretty amazing. i don't think anyone was as prepared as they should have been at the time.
alejosoini 2 years ago 2
was that in 2001 or so, if so that was an awesome show, not that there are any bad fugazi shows
sc13ntific 2 years ago
holy shit! where did all this talent come from?!
domoblind 2 years ago 6
Fugazi = perfect style... hard and melodic they've got the key...
mantaray1012 2 years ago 52
Love the song, love Jem Cohen's work on the band, but why is Kevin McHale in the front row at 1:02-1:04?
woodwizaar 2 years ago
joe lally is amazing!
comomepos 2 years ago 3
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sounds like the song from deathcab for cutie.. am talking about their intro..
paramorejoyful 2 years ago
got curious. which song?
caderoger 2 years ago
fuck death cab for cutie
Boomoutgothelights 2 years ago 14
i love that song
lordofthechin 2 years ago 2
Hell yeah. Ian is incredible.
rngrchad 2 years ago
pretty sweet :)
lazyburger 2 years ago
atomstyle
haverrr 2 years ago
looooove eeeeet...
sandytherabbit 2 years ago
What a sweeeet Vid! Thanks for sharing!
wildrover74 2 years ago
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in the first picture the guy on the right looks like Zach from Rise Against ^_^
Zurrok0 3 years ago
that was one of the most blessed two minutes of my life
amunneheh 3 years ago 6
Man theres some pretty crazy conversations going on on this age. Alot of big words being thrown around. Very cool.
fullmetalfunk 3 years ago
É música pra toda hora!!!!!
MarcusM4tt0s 3 years ago
love this song
Rockapellas 3 years ago 2
i laazy fugazi
fasterpussycatkill1 3 years ago
geez...all that's being pointed out candygirl is "are they doing it for the money" or are they doing it for "art's sake." Fugazi did it for art's sake. take it or leave it.
gripper61 3 years ago
Just so you know, I wasn't talking about Fugazi at all. A bunch of people were getting on my case for listening to pop music. That's what the discussion was about, and I was upset that people were so irritated with my personal musical taste. I was also upset that they were talking about hating pop music when people should just be appreciating Fugazi. You might know that if you looked a few pages back. =]
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Oh and I absolutely agree that Fugazi did it for art's sake, etc - but I have to point out that I'm a boy. Don't judge a book by its cover and don't judge a person by a few sentences. You have some nice musical taste there, by the way.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
joya
trabazoss 3 years ago
Fucking fantastic. For what Fugazi has implemented on so many people, is irreplaceable.
goldenresidueofbliss 3 years ago
yeah! =)
altalenelente 3 years ago
great song!
arresteermij 3 years ago
Is it me or are there too many musicians in the USA. 8 million musicians on myspace. I mean that could be worldwide but if thats just the USA then that is way too many.
esco6017 3 years ago
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wtf man? patd DID make amazing music AND they did have good meaningful backgrounds to there songs...SO F**K YOU!
iMorphine 3 years ago
sorry...just listened to some patd and they've got the backstreet boys on the run for their identity.
gripper61 3 years ago 3
Nah, They really dont,
I liked PATD
When i was seven ^^
jamesusillXD 3 years ago
i assume that PATD means Panic at the disco. yeah, they fucking SUCK. I am from Vegas, and there's a reason why they got a bottle thrown at their head. Its cuz they suck.
Waeweas 3 years ago 5
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Don't feel bad... I like P!ATD as well. In fact, I might get to see them this weekend. Calm down - not every person who loves Fugazi hates pop music. [But it seems most do]
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
We don't hate pop music, we just hate pop that isn't real music (a.k.a PATD).
Boomoutgothelights 3 years ago 5
haha - that's fine. I don't really care if pop music is "real" or not. I don't understand why people focus their disdain on silly pop music when another pop group will take it's place in 6 months, maybe 1 year's time. Oh - and your reply was pretty unimaginative. One time I got this: "PATD is just Fall Out Boy with keyboards." Note the snarkiness and the humor.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
There's a difference between pop that is meant to be bubbly, and then pop that's posing as art. That is where pop-acts like falloutboy,hawthorne heights, Tokio, Panic should be lined up and shot. repeatdely. They've fooled a generation of kids into thinking that they're making 'real' deep stuff when all it is stock-catchy hooks and beats, right off the assembly line.
Backstreetboys with guitars.
upstartmike 3 years ago 5
If anyone should be shot, it should be the "original" and arrogant masses who are offended by such bands - for their immaturity and hypocrisy. Perhaps it's just me, but reality is pretty much boring and pointless - what's wrong with listening to fun music that makes you laugh, cry, and dance around [with or without irony]? I see "pop that's posing as art" as an art in itself - and much more entertaining than the remarks of [bitter, "witty" and "subversive"] pseudo-intellectual hipsters.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
If you consider lazy song writing "real music" then go ahead, enjoy the modern pop punk bands. Enjoy what they give you, they've put a lot of hard work into it (sarcasm).
Boomoutgothelights 3 years ago
Placing the word 'sarcasm' in parentheses was redundant. Fugazi is one of my favourite bands, not only for their musicianship but also for their ethics; I also like [supposedly bad] pop music. I'm sorry that offends you so much, but for your own sake get a grip and whine about something with ACTUAL meaning. [Can I get an amen?] It only shows shallowness, arrogance and a narrow-mind when one thinks they are an objective source when it comes to deeming what is "real music" and what is not.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
self-deluded apologist or a dolt? you decide.
Those pop bands you're talking about are whoring out an image, attitude and sound that is utterly antithetical to what they create. The value of pop-art is that is it an attack on the commercialization of 'value'. These bands aren't making pop-art, because they're not in on the joke. They're just cashing in.
You can't get an amen, b/c the argument is about the value of principles & ethics. Go to Wall St for an amen for short-sighted self-interest.
crock703 3 years ago
If someone else cashes in, that's their affair, not mine. I understand what you are saying - and I agree - but whether someone is anti-material or raking in millions, it doesn't really matter. Everyone is still stuck in this capitalistic society. Look at your own values before you judge others. You're so upset that I choose to defend pop bands - but mostly likely your whole life is built on the cheap labor of others so you can live in a home, eat food, and own a tv. Open your own eyes.
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What can we do?
SomeKindOfBand 3 years ago
What can we do? Well, we have a lot of options. I am still trying to decide which socialist/anarchist philosophy is the best. I like making decisions for myself - clearly the majority of the people on here do not. They get upset about pop music when they should be worrying about important issues if they are against commercialism, etc. - such as the existence of first and third world nations, poverty, free trade, eradication of human rights, and other REAL crises.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
I agree, I believe in anarchy but the civillized kind.
But we can't do anything about certain things how hard we try which is pretty sad.
Like getting upset about pop music like you say while people are homeless and starving.
Sometimes I just feel powerless because I'm still just a kid.
SomeKindOfBand 3 years ago
You're never powerless as long as you have your own beliefs, and ideas. The best way you can protest against society is within your own mind. I'm a completely non-violent person, but I think it's okay for people to resist with force if necessary. Yeah - I'm "just a kid" too but at least we're wise enough to see that arguing about petty things is pointless. I love this band and I don't know why everyone is so concerned about what other music I listen to.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
I agree, thank you for these wise words of justice.
SomeKindOfBand 3 years ago
Don't you know catsboyscandy that people are not concerned about the world and it's fate or their part in it, they just care about arguing on YouTube...obviously...
ChristmasChicken 3 years ago
Oh no, I thought that as well because people endlessly responded to one comment I made. From there it spiraled out of control. As with any other addiction, I have a bad habit of defending myself.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Don't feel the need to defend yourself via YouTube...let them be ignorant :)
ChristmasChicken 3 years ago
I'm not really concerned with other people's ignorance, as sad as it may be. It's more like OCD. That and I prefer to have the last word, especially in arguments where the opposition is obscene. It seems that we are rather similar - we even have the same background color.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
I am pretty sure I have OCD...with many things...
That it does.
...purple...I love purple...
ChristmasChicken 3 years ago
Its not about materialism, its about sincerity in art and the creative abilities of the 'artist.' Those bands aren't artists simply because they're not creating anything. The fact that their business (and it is primarily a business endeavor for them), is based on exploiting a pre-existing 'style' that is completely antithetical to what they do (insincerity, self-interest, etc), is just insult on injury.
I've lived in the US and willingly in relative poverty in the 3rd world. I'm wide awake
crock703 3 years ago
No - materialism was brought into the picture with "cashing in" and "selling out". You could just as well say that there are hardly any artists today whatsoever. Based on your reasoning, all artists - painters, designers, writers, etc - are just doing what someone else has already done. For example, Shakespeare was a brilliant writer, but he was creative not original. I see pop as art because it's not being ignored - it's loved and hated.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Don't you mean 'consumerism' instead of 'materialism'? Materialism is a philosophy.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
I meant what I said. This lady with whom I was in an argument was saying "____ is not art because ___ is not creative". But she was also saying that "_____ is not art because ____ makes enormous profit/ _____ is not art because all that _____ cares about is making money". That would be materialism. We weren't talking about people buying what _____ were selling, but that could be implied. But her main concern was not consumerism at all, hence why I said her concern was materialism.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
The philosophy of materialism holds that the only thing that can be truly proven to exist is matter, and is considered a form of physicalism. Fundamentally, all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions; therefore, matter is the only substance.
I don't think you mean 'materialism'.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
I think you meant greed. 'Materialism' is the wrong word to use.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
Sorry for my offensive American slang. =]
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Aw its cool, I'm not offended.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
You probably should be. American English is so disgraceful, I am so ashamed of it. haha
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
Your use of the word "materialism" was correct; " a preoccupation with or stress upon material rather than intellectual or spiritual things." One definition, the one you meant, refers to ethics. The other refers to metaphysics.
Nevertheless, I am always entertained by seeing devolution in action, in this case one moron "unteaching" another how to speak.
JimmyJizzbag 3 years ago
hmmm... You mean how to write. More importantly though, isn't both your and his language lessons rather pedantic?
catsboyscandy 3 years ago 2
I spoke english bester then all people
joelvigilante 3 years ago 8
Haha, victory goes to you my friend.
Romans10Verse9 3 years ago 2
Wow, And All That Intellectual Thought Out Of A Person With A Screen Name Such As "JimmyJizzbag".
Very Eye Opening
controlusplease 2 years ago
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this isn't art, KISS is art, this is music.
FUNKEYED 2 years ago
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
catsboyscandy 2 years ago
If you want my charity credentials, I too have lived in the 3rd world. I'm glad your awake. But that doesn't mean that your philsophy of art is correct. As you say, if one is not creating, it is not art. So iconoclasts' work and destructive propoganda is never art? I would strongly disagree. I'm not an idiot. I am erratic, but I am literate and able to construct my own thoughts. I find it ridiculous that there is such a fuss over pop. I thought people were entitled to their own opinion.
catsboyscandy 3 years ago
yeah, that pseudo-angst crap kills me. The bands that you listed all have the same azz formula. And if I hear one more person comparing these bands to the Clash and Sex Pisols...
Femspectre 3 years ago
I couldn't agree more.
Boomoutgothelights 3 years ago
PATD is strictly mallXcore - get lost
meinLiebsterFeind 3 years ago
dude,,,, holy fuck this is the best song ive ever heard. holy shit
pvnk808 3 years ago 6
Blink 182 was NOOOTHHHIINNGGG compared to Fugazi. Fugazi knew what they were doing, and they weren't concentrated on the money or trends, they were making REAL music with REAL meanings and messages. Any of you who think blink 182 matched or were better than Fugazi know absolutely nothing about music and the hard work behind it. Bands like Blink 182, Fallout boy, Panic at the disco and countless others incorporate lazy song writing. Don't ever say blink 182 was better than Fugazi.
Boomoutgothelights 3 years ago 17
i wouldnt call blink concentrated or trend or mony they genuinly wanted to have fun but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy different than the awesomeness that is fugazi
JODQ11 3 years ago
Well, at the beginning they may have been okay, but nearing the end of their career, it was quite obvious they were obeying what the record labels wanted. This was not the case with Fugazi. In my opinion, that's how you can tell the real music apart from the not-real music.
Boomoutgothelights 3 years ago
Fugazi had balls. Something all other bands seem to lack. Nuff said.
SVTristan 3 years ago 6
love this video
theambulancereview 3 years ago 2
you cant fuckin beat this shit
pvnk808 3 years ago
how can you compare stink 182 to the almighty fugazi....i grew up in MD 5 minutes from the dc line and let me tell you guys something...Ian and Fugazi are legends....blink is corporate bullcrap!
C11420 3 years ago
that was the shit!
stoopiddub333 3 years ago
memories
budmotor 3 years ago
ian mackay is the best
KIDDY662 3 years ago
cant hate on blink travis is a beast but fugazi is
the shit i agree still give credit where it is due
respect musicians
nastynateeee 3 years ago
there was something really special about them. i've heard better songwriting, better lyrics, better playing, but nobody is fugazi...no one. they cannot be touched because they were for real. and when they clicked on a song, a part of me that doesn't have words went soaring. no other band could do that.
i think they were a musician's band. that's why a lot of people didn't "get" them. even the most pompous elitist musicians i know gave them their due, even if begrudgingly. God bless fugazi.
ookeybookey 3 years ago 12
man do i feel sorry for whoever thinks fugazi sucks (cough, Bludshot15).. noone understands,, they want to sound sucky,,so sucky that it passes the limit of suckiness and goes back to being awesome,, their the best/worst band ever.. which makes them my favorite band, cuz they know exactly what their doing and why they do it,, their supposed to sound like that. fuck all you teeny boppers with your one hit wonder bands, go listen to blink 182 and simple plan. this is FUGAZI,get the fuck outta here
arokusaki 3 years ago 8
What happens when a punk band starts playing well and wearing makeup? The start a band called Greenday. Fugazi is transcendence.
XthatsrightX 3 years ago 3
Thumbs way up!
Blink 182 and Simple Plan are multi-million dollar corporations.
Fugazi can't be bought.
bargoyle666 3 years ago 6
Blink were cool dudes I really respect them, even Tom still after that little mess. I don't believe they wrote songs just to make hits, that's just what they liked to write and what they grew up on. I completely agree about Simple Plan though they're so boring to listen to.
But Fugazi are legends that cannot be touched
BassBeast42 3 years ago
i love this song over all *___*
comedmeunpie 3 years ago
plane out = even out...if you haven't picked on.. heavier music is rooted in undoing the glorious 60's
genehord 3 years ago
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this band reaks with sukiness dude and the spit thing was gross there wer like no words to the song it just plane out sux!!
Bludshot15 3 years ago
buy a clue.
gripper61 3 years ago 7
Lyrics don't make a song
Ebbs369 3 years ago 3
I'd say they do sometimes.
justinisboss 3 years ago
you must be 12 or german because you don't spell very well. tell mommy to put some manson on for you.
gripper61 3 years ago 3
"Plane out?" What does that mean?
gravelyma 3 years ago 3
that spit was awesomeness spewing from his mouth
if he hawked one, someone would have died from sheer happiness
and this band is great, not all songs need lyrics
Longboarder140 3 years ago
Dude the spit flying from his mouth is so gross, but still awesome music
wiki2wiki 3 years ago
love the ending!!!
felizdakilla 3 years ago
This is more than music
THIS IS ART
gangstable 3 years ago 6
Ok well I am the only one I know who owns a recordable walkman so that will do for now..hit me up yo
elusiveohm 3 years ago
I might need to resort to a p2p to get some of this band....they dont exist in my town in any music store and I dont have a credit card so i am fucked until I find an album.
elusiveohm 3 years ago
Dischord are obviously pretty reasonable guys, e-mail them and see if you can pay by cheque.
AnRK1936 3 years ago 5