iv actualy tried this on Haiku after watching this & it actualy works! i cant wait for Haiku to get past R1-A3, or atleast be more feature-complete & have more compadability.
OpenGL is the industry standard and it's available everywhere - from super-duper PC with 8Gb video card to mobile phones. DirectX is Windows only and OpenGL 4.2 -> DX11 in a few things.
I'm definitely trying this OS on my sister's slow-ass laptop. No Linux distro will run on it (they all freeze up during installation or don't recognize her hardware. I've tried them all - Lubuntu, Puppy Linux, and all other low-RAM distros)
Maybe Haiku OS might work on it? What's the hardware compatibility for Haiku OS is so far?
As you now Haiku was a replacement of BEOS. This operating systems is amazing you dont need to have RAM or CPU the run this operatings system. The BEST OS. If the software companies write programs for this OS it will become in short time the wildly used OS.
2 - Amd64 3000+ is a good CPU, i could do this on my athlon 1800xp with WINXP, just don't use VLC, it's a resource hog.
Haiku is an interesting OS to test, but people comparing it to windows... common.
I use Solaris and various Linux Distros for DB (oracle) and programming since i find them more fit to those tasks, but using this O.S to play games, or media is a drawback and IMO plain stupid.
wtf? AMD64 3000+ is GOOD? I have the AMD64 3500_ and it sucks balls for what I do. Play two year old games on low graphics. I have a 1GB graphics card and 2GB of ram.
u said 2 year old games, that's 2007, the cpu came out on 2004, and also, games != desktop and media, they need more mem, cpu and also they are bottlenecked by your graphics card.
AMD64 outperformed Pentium IV and it was cheap, so yeah, it was a great processor, apart from the pentium 4 extreme it was the faster single core cpu.
And as i said , i could do this on my ahtlon XP 1800, wich is older and also 1'5Ghz
coincidentally u're talking to the guy who sees the future. if anything you can buy in a store impresses you then you're just a mindless consumer. everything you see is at least 100 years backwards and that number increases with each iteration of your ipod
Anyone know where I can download drivers for ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro that work with Haiku? I want to get rid of winblows but I can't until I find drivers that work with Haiku, since by default it only works with 2-3 windows operating systems.
no, if you want to run haiku with your radeon, you will have to use the vesa (default) drivers, at least, for now. (I have the same video card as you and I hate it with a burning passion)
yes. putting things like "1 million users" or "made in where the fuck ever" only shows that companies have no respect for you. Microsoft is cool, dont get me wrong, but open source is always on par or better.
I tried simultaneously playing multiple videos on Ubuntu with VLC, and I started experiencing problems after the 4th one. I guess this is impressive, although why I'd want to watch multiple videos while listening to multiple music files, I have no idea.
Game developers should look to make games for this OS. I am not saying it is the greatest OS, but if it can handle that, it should put MS in its place as far as games go.
@DMalenfant1 BeOS was created to fulfil multimedia tasks, Haiku follows the same purpose. once it has proper 3D hardware acceleration drivers (FOSS/proprietary) it will be a beast for gaming...
@Foxi4Qnet LOL what? I know what DirectX is dude and even know how to program in it. You should also know it is not well put together. Just because Microsoft was good at marketing their product does not mean it is the best or the only one. There is also openGL and I am pretty sure Nintendo and Sony use anything else but direct X.
@DMalenfant1 A serious video game development studio would never release a game that does not support DirectX nowadays. DirectX 11 has a serious upper-hand compared to OpenGL and is endorsed by both, AMD and NVidia - the only two gfx chip developers that "matter" on the market.
Not having DirectX support equals forfeiting profits from, among others, an XBox360 version of a given game. Moreover, DirectX has built-in support for teselated models, which cuts down development time and simply allows using more complex-looking models while cutting down the polycount - something OpenGL is yet to natively support.
@DMalenfant1 I'm glad that you have the ability to program for DirectX, but don't be indier than thou - the days of OpenGL as you know it are the past. Like every library, this one also has to evolve and as long as it doesn't catch up with what's going on in the industry, it's going to be rather "myeh" and only used as a secondary render for low-tier machines.
And no if your OS sucks then it doesn't matter what machine you use. For example a linux (which Haiku is NOT) could run on a "lesser"windows computer at a pretty spiffy speed...while windows can't. Silly people not reading =P
heh... BeOS R5.03 my dual 300mhz box is handleing 2 320x320 avi and one larger one with heavier compression with no hardware acceleration and I can play DVDs without lag which even linux cannot do read it and weep macboys :-P
KriegPower, They debated making a LiveCD lately but decided not too as things are still not good enough for everyone to try out, as they may get the wrong impression about Haiku overall just because of some installer issues.
Indeed, Linux has serious shortcomings for process scheduling and real time features.
Beos was always known for real time. There is also an emphasis on nice object oriented C++ programming, which is much nicer than flat C coding, with negligible, if at all, performance impact.
That is not complicated as this. If more good then other of course we will use this one. And i think BeOS system logic is perfect like said in other video.
Well graphic applications takes years to get to know so it's very hard to switch just like that. Perhaps emulating is the key to success? Linux people are more network and programming minded I think. That explains the success of linux. (free and lighter)
By the time this actually comes out, there's going to be such a small userbase I wonder if it will survive. This should have been released at least 2 years ago. About every 6 months or so, I cruise by the Haiku site, read over the progress, notice there still isn't an ISO to download then forget about it for another 6 months.
And every 6 months I get more frustrated by the bloatware that is forced down our throats by M$. You know why they called WIN95 the 6 month OS? That's how often you would have to reinstall it in order to get a stable system. I've set up various alternative OS's for friends and family running old hardware that continues to run smoothly years later.
Well, he does say "no video frames are dropped, well mostly" with a chuckle. Also some video frames being dropped could be from the camera he is using, if they all dropped at the same time. However I still have to say it's very impressive, the only dropped frames I noticed were in the windows he moved.
"... the only dropped frames I noticed were in the windows he moved."
Exactly, that should not happen IMO. I use BeOS since 2000 or 1999 I think, sure BeOS is great but it has it flaws and some are pretty severe but I hate it when people keep praising the hell out of a product when it doesn't deserve it.
iv actualy tried this on Haiku after watching this & it actualy works! i cant wait for Haiku to get past R1-A3, or atleast be more feature-complete & have more compadability.
TheMarioKartJBox 1 month ago
OpenGL is the industry standard and it's available everywhere - from super-duper PC with 8Gb video card to mobile phones. DirectX is Windows only and OpenGL 4.2 -> DX11 in a few things.
St33lR0b0t 3 months ago
run prime95 10x and then we will talk.
L2DragonHunter 5 months ago
I'm definitely trying this OS on my sister's slow-ass laptop. No Linux distro will run on it (they all freeze up during installation or don't recognize her hardware. I've tried them all - Lubuntu, Puppy Linux, and all other low-RAM distros)
Maybe Haiku OS might work on it? What's the hardware compatibility for Haiku OS is so far?
totakeke 7 months ago
@totakeke try tiny core eheheh
stardevelin 6 months ago
how about high ress videos?
culerz 8 months ago
As you now Haiku was a replacement of BEOS. This operating systems is amazing you dont need to have RAM or CPU the run this operatings system. The BEST OS. If the software companies write programs for this OS it will become in short time the wildly used OS.
saltikkenan 8 months ago
Haiku is cool
zicovulo 1 year ago
This probably could be the best Open Source OS for end users, very very ease to use!
Burningplasma 1 year ago
what is the wireless card detection on haiku like
zikalify 2 years ago
1 - It's the same video
2 - It's a Low Res video
2 - Amd64 3000+ is a good CPU, i could do this on my athlon 1800xp with WINXP, just don't use VLC, it's a resource hog.
Haiku is an interesting OS to test, but people comparing it to windows... common.
I use Solaris and various Linux Distros for DB (oracle) and programming since i find them more fit to those tasks, but using this O.S to play games, or media is a drawback and IMO plain stupid.
My 2 cents.
LaruKun 2 years ago
wtf? AMD64 3000+ is GOOD? I have the AMD64 3500_ and it sucks balls for what I do. Play two year old games on low graphics. I have a 1GB graphics card and 2GB of ram.
GameCubeFan99 2 years ago
u said 2 year old games, that's 2007, the cpu came out on 2004, and also, games != desktop and media, they need more mem, cpu and also they are bottlenecked by your graphics card.
AMD64 outperformed Pentium IV and it was cheap, so yeah, it was a great processor, apart from the pentium 4 extreme it was the faster single core cpu.
And as i said , i could do this on my ahtlon XP 1800, wich is older and also 1'5Ghz
LaruKun 2 years ago
Excuse me, *1GB* graphics card (as in 1GB of video memory on it). Cost over $300. THAT my friend is NOT my bottleneck.
GameCubeFan99 2 years ago
remember once i open all songs from mastodon-leviatan in the same time and that was really a nice symphony from hell of whales HEHE
after that i can use Os still smooth and reponsive for all my clicks
celeron 400
92mb ram
s3 savage 4
Beos 5 max
now on win 7 i cant do this because of delays between songs
athlon 6000
4gb ram
radeon HD
buokopter 2 years ago 2
the Qualitiy of the video is importent not how many.
terax1988 2 years ago
lol dumbass, this is the internet, you'll always be called out for saying stupid shit. gawd and you capitalized Quality.
part2themovie 2 years ago
lol go to your momy and your time stoneman.
terax1988 2 years ago
coincidentally u're talking to the guy who sees the future. if anything you can buy in a store impresses you then you're just a mindless consumer. everything you see is at least 100 years backwards and that number increases with each iteration of your ipod
part2themovie 2 years ago 3
lol xD IPOD IPOD xD Who need like that ?
You dont see future, but i do.
nano semiconductors(8cores no, 10-20cores), nano bots, 128 Bit Systems.
But back to video ^^.
A Customer ask you, "what the system can do" and you say: "they can play 6 Videos in 300x200 Resolution and AVI compressed". The Customer will rofl.
What a Customer today want is a Multimedia System that can play One VIdeo in 1920x1080 uncompressed(Sound,too) like on BD or HDDVD.
OS unimportant(Games ignored).
terax1988 2 years ago
Miss Cleo?? Is that you?
mynameisnicholas 2 years ago
We can't know it's 100 years behind if nobody is making anything better.
I also hate iPods, but we don't need to be metaphysical about it. Just say, "iPods suck, they won't even play Vorbis" and leave it at that.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 4
crisis runs fine under winehq
OGh0st 2 years ago
Anyone know where I can download drivers for ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro that work with Haiku? I want to get rid of winblows but I can't until I find drivers that work with Haiku, since by default it only works with 2-3 windows operating systems.
LuvPeaceAndCookies 2 years ago
no, if you want to run haiku with your radeon, you will have to use the vesa (default) drivers, at least, for now. (I have the same video card as you and I hate it with a burning passion)
hal970fx 2 years ago
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Just use Ubuntu
dayl3 2 years ago
Microsoft making something should not imply that it is better than its open source counterpart. This is a failure of the community.
VSJonno 2 years ago
yes. putting things like "1 million users" or "made in where the fuck ever" only shows that companies have no respect for you. Microsoft is cool, dont get me wrong, but open source is always on par or better.
part2themovie 2 years ago
Wow that's pretty impressive. What format was used to compress the videos?
alexxmidnite 2 years ago
I once watched the entire Neon Genesis Evangelion series in parallel on my Core 2 Duo.
26 instances of VLC.
cyborgtroy 3 years ago 2
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Heavy Load?? i can do the same with Vista, 10 videos of 320x320... show us a real test.
PLAY CRYSIS.
phoenixsampras 3 years ago
true that
attackxxxxxx 3 years ago
Why would Haiku be able to play Crysis? Thats a Windows game.
gomemdesoto 2 years ago
Woah!
Haiku could handle all of this, but I don't think I could handle all of this if it was on my computer.
Cool!
thegreatbitbucket 3 years ago 2
it probably will by release since it is still pretty buggy at this point although good progess is being made
cusbrar1 3 years ago
seems like one same video file on different time,you should play six different videos
paopaomj 3 years ago
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I REALLY like the BeOS look but lets face it this is a rip from a 1995 OS with a userbase of what? 10?
Danny77uk 3 years ago
Isn't Linux a rip-off of a 1970's OS? as for the userbase, it hasn't even been released yet.
jrash2000 3 years ago 5
you hardly show any interactive commands .... which is the whole point
phdecora 3 years ago
Someone needs to replace the battery in there smoke detector.
PsychoSnowMan 3 years ago 3
BTW everyone Haiku should have a live-CD out by the end of the year
ricardsju 3 years ago 2
I tried simultaneously playing multiple videos on Ubuntu with VLC, and I started experiencing problems after the 4th one. I guess this is impressive, although why I'd want to watch multiple videos while listening to multiple music files, I have no idea.
yatuk 3 years ago 3
Game developers should look to make games for this OS. I am not saying it is the greatest OS, but if it can handle that, it should put MS in its place as far as games go.
DMalenfant1 3 years ago 18
@DMalenfant1 Low quality videos....
asfalli0n 1 year ago
@DMalenfant1 BeOS was created to fulfil multimedia tasks, Haiku follows the same purpose. once it has proper 3D hardware acceleration drivers (FOSS/proprietary) it will be a beast for gaming...
setlec 1 year ago
@DMalenfant1 I'd like to know what res the videos are at. It could be like 240p and wouldn't be that impressive.
MBP6705 1 year ago
@DMalenfant1 DirectX. It's in Windows. It's not in BeOS and there is no alternative to my knowledge. There you go.
Foxi4Qnet 3 months ago
@Foxi4Qnet LOL what? I know what DirectX is dude and even know how to program in it. You should also know it is not well put together. Just because Microsoft was good at marketing their product does not mean it is the best or the only one. There is also openGL and I am pretty sure Nintendo and Sony use anything else but direct X.
So there you go.
DMalenfant1 3 months ago
@DMalenfant1 A serious video game development studio would never release a game that does not support DirectX nowadays. DirectX 11 has a serious upper-hand compared to OpenGL and is endorsed by both, AMD and NVidia - the only two gfx chip developers that "matter" on the market.
Foxi4Qnet 3 months ago
@DMalenfant1
Not having DirectX support equals forfeiting profits from, among others, an XBox360 version of a given game. Moreover, DirectX has built-in support for teselated models, which cuts down development time and simply allows using more complex-looking models while cutting down the polycount - something OpenGL is yet to natively support.
Foxi4Qnet 3 months ago
@DMalenfant1 I'm glad that you have the ability to program for DirectX, but don't be indier than thou - the days of OpenGL as you know it are the past. Like every library, this one also has to evolve and as long as it doesn't catch up with what's going on in the industry, it's going to be rather "myeh" and only used as a secondary render for low-tier machines.
Foxi4Qnet 3 months ago
OH MY GOD!!!
Windows would have crashed and burned....
can Mac even do that?
And no if your OS sucks then it doesn't matter what machine you use. For example a linux (which Haiku is NOT) could run on a "lesser"windows computer at a pretty spiffy speed...while windows can't. Silly people not reading =P
ilovecandyrain 3 years ago 3
Mac OS X could handle this.
Still pretty impressive.
Turtov 3 years ago
my macbook is handling it right now. got 6 diff vids playing on vlc and commenting this video as it plays on firefox
setheroon1 3 years ago
srry i mean 6 vidz in quicktime
setheroon1 3 years ago
heh... BeOS R5.03 my dual 300mhz box is handleing 2 320x320 avi and one larger one with heavier compression with no hardware acceleration and I can play DVDs without lag which even linux cannot do read it and weep macboys :-P
cusbrar1 3 years ago
BeOS even beats Linux speed wise on the desktop probably not on the server though
cusbrar1 3 years ago 2
I'm waiting for an iso image to test it out
4izm0v 3 years ago 2
Why not go over to the website and build it yourself?
LTS1287 3 years ago
what am i looking for here ??
moecage 3 years ago
they should made a LiveCD of Haiku
KriegPower 4 years ago 2
KriegPower, They debated making a LiveCD lately but decided not too as things are still not good enough for everyone to try out, as they may get the wrong impression about Haiku overall just because of some installer issues.
DreamingDamiana 3 years ago
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I fail to see the advantages outweighing the disadvantages over Linux.
a1mint 4 years ago
Well, imagine if people said that when Linuas first released his kernel? This is in development. Let's just have an open mind to what it may become.
paxcoder 4 years ago 13
Ok, I guess. Linux is not perfect. Mac is not perfect. Let's see what happens. Wouldn't mind contributing actually.
a1mint 4 years ago 5
linux is great if you want security and stuff and makes for great, stable, secure servers
beos-related oses are great for manipulating digital media and is ideal if you want to manipulate video, audio, images, etc.
while there's some overlap in the functions of each os, but linux and beos were designed for two different reasons.
AwfulVision 3 years ago 3
Indeed, Linux has serious shortcomings for process scheduling and real time features.
Beos was always known for real time. There is also an emphasis on nice object oriented C++ programming, which is much nicer than flat C coding, with negligible, if at all, performance impact.
a1mint 3 years ago
if BeOS good as this why we don't hear it and why we don't use it? So i'll use after this.
predatora 4 years ago
It's called Microsoft marketing and strong arming the market :)
Nickynickster33 4 years ago 4
Agreed. Can you say monopoly? I've been running multiple OS's for years and have always enjoyed the stability of BeOS in regards to video rendering.
takotheoktopus 4 years ago
if BeOS was that bad at this why we have an handful of really smart guys working endlessly since '01 to recreate the whole OS?
besides, you need that someone tells you something is good enough to use? you can't judge by yourself?
biappi 4 years ago 3
That is not complicated as this. If more good then other of course we will use this one. And i think BeOS system logic is perfect like said in other video.
predatora 4 years ago
Well graphic applications takes years to get to know so it's very hard to switch just like that. Perhaps emulating is the key to success? Linux people are more network and programming minded I think. That explains the success of linux. (free and lighter)
stseiyag 3 years ago
That is a loada BeS ...BeOS apps are dead simple
cusbrar1 3 years ago
By the time this actually comes out, there's going to be such a small userbase I wonder if it will survive. This should have been released at least 2 years ago. About every 6 months or so, I cruise by the Haiku site, read over the progress, notice there still isn't an ISO to download then forget about it for another 6 months.
pixelsfalldown 4 years ago 2
And every 6 months I get more frustrated by the bloatware that is forced down our throats by M$. You know why they called WIN95 the 6 month OS? That's how often you would have to reinstall it in order to get a stable system. I've set up various alternative OS's for friends and family running old hardware that continues to run smoothly years later.
takotheoktopus 4 years ago 2
they are getting closer though... hopefully things will pick up after alpha 1
cusbrar1 3 years ago
No frames dropped BS, you can see it quite clearly that's not the case.
nutelina 4 years ago
Well, he does say "no video frames are dropped, well mostly" with a chuckle. Also some video frames being dropped could be from the camera he is using, if they all dropped at the same time. However I still have to say it's very impressive, the only dropped frames I noticed were in the windows he moved.
iantheone 4 years ago
"... the only dropped frames I noticed were in the windows he moved."
Exactly, that should not happen IMO. I use BeOS since 2000 or 1999 I think, sure BeOS is great but it has it flaws and some are pretty severe but I hate it when people keep praising the hell out of a product when it doesn't deserve it.
nutelina 4 years ago
yay heavy :) lovin' it
kaiomatico 4 years ago
great video, but if you play 6 different action film people will said.. OMG....
kambingbetula 4 years ago 2
great job guys :)
z3r009 4 years ago
Multi threading baby!
stormloss 4 years ago
BeOS Forever !
I can't wait for the first pre release :)
jeanmarc77 4 years ago
And to think I can't even play a decent video plus copy files at the same time on my own windows comp.
Then again, it's a lot older than this one :)
Egregius 4 years ago