I know it's difficult to have debates in this format, so anyone out there who still feels that it is either healthy, ethically sound, or good/natural for the planet for humans to consume animal products shoud consult the following to see arguments that are either yet to be disproven by philosophers and scientific research that has yet to be discredited despite many attempts:
two things. firstly why does anything even mildly related to propagandhi end in some discussion on animal rights or some linked subject.. secondly.. you pussied out on the solo man. what's the point in even posting the video...?
Sup bro! I love propagandhi and its always sick to see people that know how to play songs right! All you have to do now is learn that sick guitar solo! We should start a progressive thrash band!
People can argue forever about what nature "designed" us to do. The fact is in the present state of the world, institutions have been SET UP to breed and kill animals for profit. Another fact is we as humans have the ability to survive without supporting this type of business. Why is it so crazy to say that veganism is the best way? Our minds, the environment, and other living things are benefiting substantially from choosing veganism.
evolution has been subverted by society, it doesn't matter that we have control, we do not deserve dominion. the most important point in this song though, and of the animal rights movement in general, is the direct correlation between the way we've institutionalized the slaughter and harvest of animals, and the way we've institutionalized the imprisonment, oppression, and harvesting of the economic lower classes. Lack of empathy for any living creature shows a serious weakness of character.
Ok Mr. Darwin. I can see your superior "advanced -problem-solving-skills" are held higher than what is right and wrong. Just because you have power or an advantage over something does not give you the right to abuse your power. It gives you the responsibility to choose what the creature deserves. If you choose to kill and eat it, than you are no worse than any government figure who takes advantage of their power by taking it out on you, me, or anybody.
Not bad yet again ,do you think there are two guitars at the end ...?duh .I love doin that 3 finger end solo.Bud see ya around and nice guitar you got there!and Im going out for a smoke coz its not allowed in the computer room of our anarchist Library here in Yverdon!!!
what the hell does someone's diet have to do with anything? and even if it did have anything to do with anything, you don't see people telling you to eat meat all the time.
actually, i'm speaking on behalf of smokers who are annoyed with people persecuting them for doing what they please.
i'm more than qualified to note the simple fact that smokers are the ones forced outside, not non-smokers... and why? can you tell me? why don't the non-smokers have to go outside to get their clean air fix?
hahahaha. whatever. you can "seriously doubt" whatever you want but you still have no idea what people have said to me. vegans and vegetarians feel the need to tell other people not to eat meat because they find it cruel and want to inform people about the subject... probably like when anti-smokers tell people not to smoke.... because it's bad for you.
on a side note: enjoy murdering and raping animals as well as our planet. i'm sure it'll be terribly fun when you develop colon cancer. :)
raping animals? wow, now i know you're an ignorant peta-bolsterer.
when anti-smokers tell people not to smoke, they're doing nothing less than infringing on smokers' personal freedom. you think a smoker needs to be told that smoking is bad? no. i'm sure they're quite aware.
much the same as eating meat. if you don't like it, build a time machine and go back to the dawn of man when our species evolved with canines for tearing flesh.
hahaha. i'm the ignorant one? if we evolved to eat meat, then why do we have to cook it? our stomach's would have evolved to fight the bacteria that lives inside of meat if we were supposed to eat it. and yes. i said raping animals. what do you call it when you force a cow to have a calf every twelve months, and through genetic manipulation force it to produce 10 times the amount of milk it would produce naturally? sounds like rape to me. :)
now you're just lying. it's a proven fact that a happy cow will in turn eat more and digest better, thereby forming more (and better quality) milk, butter, and cheese.
i've worked on a dairy farm, and i can honestly say that those cows are treated alot better than the majority of people in this country.
the proof is in the pudding my friend, veganism isn't proven to be any healthier than a normal, balanced diet. hell, i had a friend who was vegan once, and i laughed my ass off when his doctor told him "you need to eat meat, or you're going to die"
so until you can come up with a better argument than "it kills animals", keep your dumbass mouth shut.
maybe vegans who eat nothing but junk food aren't healthier.... hahaha. why would i need to come up with an argument better than "it kills animals" ??? that's the best argument there is.... :)
um... you did kill it. you ate it. it's dead. think about what you're saying.... of course i would care if you were killing people. that has nothing to do with it. i think it's wrong because you are killing an animal to eat it. i think it's wrong that people are tearing down the rainforests for profit, because it's hurting the environment and the wildlife that lives there.
only one problem there smart guy. i'm hardly ignorant, i simply disagree with you. i've stated my point, and my point happens to be the widely excepted one.
thus, the world will keep spinning, and little woodland creatures will be killed and consumed. so sad...
enjoy your little cocoon of misinformation and i'll enjoy my meat, that evolution has determined to be part of my diet. I murder animals and love it. Enjoy raping the planet with your consumption of electricity. :)
colon cancer from eating meat HOLY FUCK HOW IS THE HUMAN RACE STILL ALIVE!?
the rebuttal to this argument, is that yes, lions kill animals and eat them, but they don't imprison and torture them for the duration of their lives.
Yes of course torture. Here was me thinking a farmer gets the most profit by raising a healthy animal with a large amount of high quality meat and spends his days working trying to acheive this profit by keeping the animal fed, watered and free of disease and predators, but in fact instead of doing that he "tortures them for the duration of their lives" just coz he can. Idiot.
wow, that was an extremely ignorant statement, read Eric Schlossenger's Fast Food Nation for a brief education on the matter, that is if you actually read books
that makes no logical sense whatsoever. think about what you've said.
essentially, you just stated that we should deprive ourselves of nutrients and proteins that help us live and function the way NATURE DESIGNED US TO, all in the name of being humane? that's being inhumane to ourselves there smart guy.
humane is letting nature work the way it was meant, and that is survival of the fittest. if i had to kill other humans to eat them to live, do you think i'd care? hell no!
it boils down to the fact that the strongest, fastest, smartest, and most rational survive. that's how nature works. so tell me, how is using my evolutionary benefits like opposable thumbs, advanced problem-solving skills, and the ability to out think an animal that i plan on eating inhumane?
things die, simple as that. yes, i'm sure a lobster feels some discomfort when you drop it in boiling water, but you know what? i'm sure it doesn't bother it for very long!
okay man, i got one for you: ordinary people do fucked up things when fucked up things become ordinary. If you can figure out what the hell chris is playing, I will worship you.
Pretty good man I figured out an easier way to play some of it though, and his guitar has 24 frets and the solo is all the way up there on the high E.
I know easier ways of playing it also, but the way I played it on the video is 99% how he plays it live... that solo is nuts though, id like to figure it out an octave down
For that one part of the solo he uses an octave pedal, alot of people think he's playing octaves put it's a pedal and the solo starts on like the 24th fret on the high E and just does a pull off with tremelo picking, 24, 21, 19 and bending the 24 at the end here and there, I know the notes put I can't play it like he does.
Spectacular job, that is probably my favorite 'gandhi track. This and the other videos you have of Propagandhi look and sound more accurate than the tabs on the internet. What I wouldn't give to have you tab out this, Cointelpro and Iteration. Some of those chords are near impossible to figure out.
Very well played. Chris Hannah has written some of the best riffs ever, and you really did them justice. Not an easy task. How about Fedallah's Hearse?
Great job man!
unitednihilists 1 year ago
Fully, brah!
ChungDukes 2 years ago
where did you get the tab?
lovepatate 2 years ago
can you play the solo an octave lower? Watching somebody play it would really help me nail this song.
awesome videos!
twofingersmakes71 2 years ago
Better luck next time thrasher!!!
liquidfreak 2 years ago
I know it's difficult to have debates in this format, so anyone out there who still feels that it is either healthy, ethically sound, or good/natural for the planet for humans to consume animal products shoud consult the following to see arguments that are either yet to be disproven by philosophers and scientific research that has yet to be discredited despite many attempts:
The China Study by T. Colin Campbell
Animal Liberation by Peter Singer
The Case for Animal Rights by Tom Regan
GO VEGAN!
grantxvx 2 years ago
Wow, god forbid that one person would like to eat meat and another person wouldn't
Seriously, having different opinions, as if you're some kind of an individual. Now shut up and smile for The Leader.
Nice guitar playing, was watching some of your other videos. Keep it up.
freetosaynomore 2 years ago
Wow... nice. I've always had trouble with this song in particular.
Avarant 2 years ago
Ditto, its great and all the tabs i can find play the diddly intro part on one string, i can see you dont and it sounds right to me. Very impressed!
SpideyPunk 2 years ago
Awesome playing man. Spot on! Man, I love this song. You wouldn't happen to have this tab, would ya?
dpgfla 2 years ago
two things. firstly why does anything even mildly related to propagandhi end in some discussion on animal rights or some linked subject.. secondly.. you pussied out on the solo man. what's the point in even posting the video...?
bencapgras 3 years ago
i can play it.. i just need a 24 fret guitar to do it. its hard enough as it is ha
withheld 3 years ago
@withheld just play it an octave lower... not that hard. Actually Chris does that! He's only got a 22 fret guitar too now
SarcasticSunriseHxC 1 year ago
The song is kinda about animal rights.
tttooommm111222333 2 years ago
kinda?
liquidfreak 2 years ago
A. 24 fret guitar.
B. the point to posting the video? the rest of the song is just about as hard as the solo.
Avarant 2 years ago
god jul
VeldigdeiligfraNorge 3 years ago
god jul
VeldigdeiligfraNorge 3 years ago
Sup bro! I love propagandhi and its always sick to see people that know how to play songs right! All you have to do now is learn that sick guitar solo! We should start a progressive thrash band!
MHLou 3 years ago
good skills, beautiful guitar, great music, true lyrics.
moshiu 3 years ago
good job man , very nice
Grumf123 3 years ago
People can argue forever about what nature "designed" us to do. The fact is in the present state of the world, institutions have been SET UP to breed and kill animals for profit. Another fact is we as humans have the ability to survive without supporting this type of business. Why is it so crazy to say that veganism is the best way? Our minds, the environment, and other living things are benefiting substantially from choosing veganism.
withheld 3 years ago
evolution has been subverted by society, it doesn't matter that we have control, we do not deserve dominion. the most important point in this song though, and of the animal rights movement in general, is the direct correlation between the way we've institutionalized the slaughter and harvest of animals, and the way we've institutionalized the imprisonment, oppression, and harvesting of the economic lower classes. Lack of empathy for any living creature shows a serious weakness of character.
halfeatenface 3 years ago
Ok Mr. Darwin. I can see your superior "advanced -problem-solving-skills" are held higher than what is right and wrong. Just because you have power or an advantage over something does not give you the right to abuse your power. It gives you the responsibility to choose what the creature deserves. If you choose to kill and eat it, than you are no worse than any government figure who takes advantage of their power by taking it out on you, me, or anybody.
eatthesun894 3 years ago 2
Very well put.
withheld 3 years ago
awsome song, awsome playing!
hudamraula 3 years ago
and the the reindeer looked up at me and said, its ok nobody will know. I do things with reindeer that most people wouldn't even dream about.
littlealibi 4 years ago
Not bad yet again ,do you think there are two guitars at the end ...?duh .I love doin that 3 finger end solo.Bud see ya around and nice guitar you got there!and Im going out for a smoke coz its not allowed in the computer room of our anarchist Library here in Yverdon!!!
socksprod 4 years ago
So Nice Solo...PHYCE!~
nofx221984 4 years ago
go vegan
goveganordie69 4 years ago
what the hell does someone's diet have to do with anything? and even if it did have anything to do with anything, you don't see people telling you to eat meat all the time.
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
uh.....this song is about being vegan..... hahahaha. and how would you know if people tell me to eat meat?
goveganordie69 4 years ago
the song may be about being vegan, but that doesn't mean you have to tell anyone to go vegan.
and are you to tell me someone has walked up to you while you were eating a salad and said "EAT MEAT!"? i'd seriously doubt it.
why is it that vegans and vegetarians feel the need to tell other people what to eat? it's just like anti-smokers saying "DON'T SMOKE!"
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
But smoking is annoying to non-smokers who want to breathe clean air, that's not similar at all.
PardoneIsNotCool 4 years ago
you mean the same way smokers are annoyed by non-smokers telling them what they should or shouldn't do?
no. smoking isn't annoying to non-smokers, because legislation doesn't even allow smokers to smoke inside, so they go outside.
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
So you're qualified to speak on behalf of all non-smokers?
wmfmusic 3 years ago
actually, i'm speaking on behalf of smokers who are annoyed with people persecuting them for doing what they please.
i'm more than qualified to note the simple fact that smokers are the ones forced outside, not non-smokers... and why? can you tell me? why don't the non-smokers have to go outside to get their clean air fix?
PooPoo2U 3 years ago
Because, retard, the non-smokers aren't the ones pouring stinking poison into everyone elses lungs.
PutItAway101 3 years ago
on a side note: enjoy being vegan... i'm sure it'll be terribly fun when your muscles atrophy from lack of protein...
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
hahahaha. whatever. you can "seriously doubt" whatever you want but you still have no idea what people have said to me. vegans and vegetarians feel the need to tell other people not to eat meat because they find it cruel and want to inform people about the subject... probably like when anti-smokers tell people not to smoke.... because it's bad for you.
on a side note: enjoy murdering and raping animals as well as our planet. i'm sure it'll be terribly fun when you develop colon cancer. :)
goveganordie69 4 years ago
raping animals? wow, now i know you're an ignorant peta-bolsterer.
when anti-smokers tell people not to smoke, they're doing nothing less than infringing on smokers' personal freedom. you think a smoker needs to be told that smoking is bad? no. i'm sure they're quite aware.
much the same as eating meat. if you don't like it, build a time machine and go back to the dawn of man when our species evolved with canines for tearing flesh.
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
hahaha. i'm the ignorant one? if we evolved to eat meat, then why do we have to cook it? our stomach's would have evolved to fight the bacteria that lives inside of meat if we were supposed to eat it. and yes. i said raping animals. what do you call it when you force a cow to have a calf every twelve months, and through genetic manipulation force it to produce 10 times the amount of milk it would produce naturally? sounds like rape to me. :)
goveganordie69 4 years ago
so you're saying that any doctor who artificially inseminates a woman who can't have children, he's raping her?
plus, those cows are treated better than half the people in the world, so i'm sure they don't mind all that much.
remember, a happy cow makes better cheese
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
a woman who is being artificially inseminated is asking for it. cows aren't. and happy cows don't make better cheese. hormones and steroids do. :)
goveganordie69 4 years ago
now you're just lying. it's a proven fact that a happy cow will in turn eat more and digest better, thereby forming more (and better quality) milk, butter, and cheese.
i've worked on a dairy farm, and i can honestly say that those cows are treated alot better than the majority of people in this country.
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
the proof is in the pudding my friend, veganism isn't proven to be any healthier than a normal, balanced diet. hell, i had a friend who was vegan once, and i laughed my ass off when his doctor told him "you need to eat meat, or you're going to die"
so until you can come up with a better argument than "it kills animals", keep your dumbass mouth shut.
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
maybe vegans who eat nothing but junk food aren't healthier.... hahaha. why would i need to come up with an argument better than "it kills animals" ??? that's the best argument there is.... :)
goveganordie69 4 years ago
so then if we were killing people or plants, you wouldn't care?
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
or better yet, what if i ate an entire baby duck? i didn't kill it, i just swallowed it whole
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
um... you did kill it. you ate it. it's dead. think about what you're saying.... of course i would care if you were killing people. that has nothing to do with it. i think it's wrong because you are killing an animal to eat it. i think it's wrong that people are tearing down the rainforests for profit, because it's hurting the environment and the wildlife that lives there.
goveganordie69 4 years ago
look, i'll make this as plain and simple as possible.
your basic argument (as well as the basic argument of all animal rights people) is that you feel as though we're harming the planet, correct?
look. our planet is 4.5 billion years old. we've been here around 200,000. we're not harming the planet.
go ask someone whose house got washed away in katrina if they feel like "a threat to the planet"
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
hahaha. okay. you're right. :) i'm not going to waste my time talking to someone as ignorant as you.
goveganordie69 4 years ago
only one problem there smart guy. i'm hardly ignorant, i simply disagree with you. i've stated my point, and my point happens to be the widely excepted one.
thus, the world will keep spinning, and little woodland creatures will be killed and consumed. so sad...
PooPoo2U 4 years ago
enjoy your little cocoon of misinformation and i'll enjoy my meat, that evolution has determined to be part of my diet. I murder animals and love it. Enjoy raping the planet with your consumption of electricity. :)
colon cancer from eating meat HOLY FUCK HOW IS THE HUMAN RACE STILL ALIVE!?
badreligion 4 years ago
haha. funny. :)
goveganordie69 4 years ago
you're a fucking dumbass. it's not about what's natural or healthy, it's about whats most humane.
sandiegorickk 4 years ago
You're going to have to re-arrange most of nature if you think eating meat is bad. Good luck teaching lions to eat grass LOL.
PutItAway101 4 years ago
the rebuttal to this argument, is that yes, lions kill animals and eat them, but they don't imprison and torture them for the duration of their lives.
kurtisblow3000 3 years ago
Yes of course torture. Here was me thinking a farmer gets the most profit by raising a healthy animal with a large amount of high quality meat and spends his days working trying to acheive this profit by keeping the animal fed, watered and free of disease and predators, but in fact instead of doing that he "tortures them for the duration of their lives" just coz he can. Idiot.
PutItAway101 3 years ago
wow, that was an extremely ignorant statement, read Eric Schlossenger's Fast Food Nation for a brief education on the matter, that is if you actually read books
jamstrat 3 years ago
that makes no logical sense whatsoever. think about what you've said.
essentially, you just stated that we should deprive ourselves of nutrients and proteins that help us live and function the way NATURE DESIGNED US TO, all in the name of being humane? that's being inhumane to ourselves there smart guy.
humane is letting nature work the way it was meant, and that is survival of the fittest. if i had to kill other humans to eat them to live, do you think i'd care? hell no!
PooPoo2U 3 years ago
it boils down to the fact that the strongest, fastest, smartest, and most rational survive. that's how nature works. so tell me, how is using my evolutionary benefits like opposable thumbs, advanced problem-solving skills, and the ability to out think an animal that i plan on eating inhumane?
things die, simple as that. yes, i'm sure a lobster feels some discomfort when you drop it in boiling water, but you know what? i'm sure it doesn't bother it for very long!
PooPoo2U 3 years ago
what you're saying sounds very silly to me. You're wrong.
sandiegorickk 3 years ago
okay man, i got one for you: ordinary people do fucked up things when fucked up things become ordinary. If you can figure out what the hell chris is playing, I will worship you.
assmunchies 4 years ago
hey mate, cuz u possibly upload a video just giving a demonstration of the vtwin pedal
Thx Mitch
rednut2000 4 years ago
wow!! nice player!! i ever saw play this nice song!
ohgari 4 years ago
Nicely played, this song really rocks, I'm also buzzy to figure it out, this video will help a lot for sure. Imagin to play AND sing it ;-)
Keep on playing!
rampagebart 4 years ago
It´s just the way it is...yeiahh :D
Treos11 4 years ago
Pretty good man I figured out an easier way to play some of it though, and his guitar has 24 frets and the solo is all the way up there on the high E.
gh0l 4 years ago
hey, thanks a lot for the comment..
I know easier ways of playing it also, but the way I played it on the video is 99% how he plays it live... that solo is nuts though, id like to figure it out an octave down
withheld 4 years ago
For that one part of the solo he uses an octave pedal, alot of people think he's playing octaves put it's a pedal and the solo starts on like the 24th fret on the high E and just does a pull off with tremelo picking, 24, 21, 19 and bending the 24 at the end here and there, I know the notes put I can't play it like he does.
gh0l 4 years ago
Nice playing! You've also got some killer gear too.
Finally a guitarist on Youtube who i'm impressed by!
mintymintyminty 4 years ago
man please tab this out for all of us who aren't nearly as godly on the guitar as you are!
jphover 4 years ago
Another awesome job man! I wish I could figure out stuff beyond 5th chords haha... frikin sweet!
Lagwagon555 4 years ago
good playing - what was the setup for the v-twin? i have one too.
did you mic up an amp or record straight into your computer?
TheCheezo 4 years ago
Spectacular job, that is probably my favorite 'gandhi track. This and the other videos you have of Propagandhi look and sound more accurate than the tabs on the internet. What I wouldn't give to have you tab out this, Cointelpro and Iteration. Some of those chords are near impossible to figure out.
entrenous81 4 years ago
very cool :)
ValekWilliams 4 years ago
hey mann i´ve one video playing this songg..:D:D good playing
sastiko 4 years ago
Very well played. Chris Hannah has written some of the best riffs ever, and you really did them justice. Not an easy task. How about Fedallah's Hearse?
BrettEatsTacos 4 years ago
thank you very, very much..
I've got Fedallah's Hearse 80% figured out, I will record it once I get all the parts down.
withheld 4 years ago