I know this is probably a silly thought because I'm sure this rifle is of top notch construction....but could you imagine firing this thing, the bolt failing and flying into your eye socket at 2000 fps? It looks soooo small to handle the pressure of that round. Still, I'd love the opportunity to dislocate my shoulder firing it.
@Pageyindahouse .577 T-rex 750gr has 10,240 foot pounds of energy from a 26 inch barrel. .50 BMG 750gr has 13,241 foot pounds of energy but from a 45 inch barrel. I think they would have about the same amount of energy if they both were fired from 26 inch barrels. The .50 BMG might have a little bit more, though.
@catfishhunter2012 muzzle brake, forward weighted stock, and a couple other accessory's, and you could MAYBE get the recoil down some more. Its still gonna kick like a mule on methamphetamine.
psychoclown420 is your typical dumbass that compares the knowlege in the video to information he aquired from a videogame, meerly because the barret 50 cal is (what he thinks) is the most powerful weapon used in videogames, these two rifles cannot be compared because-
A. This rifle isnt intended as a sniper rifle.
B. The barret m82 is a semi automatic sniper rifle while this is a bolt action
C. The barret m82 is made of metal, and composite, while this rifle is made of metal and WOOD
Semi vs bolt action isn't usually considered unless beyond ranges of 1200 metres.
What a rifle is made of doesn't really come into it either, unless you're going through a cost chart for the defense forces. Comparing a semi composite to a wooden bolt is fine. In an army scenario, comparing a Barret M107 to a PGM Hecate II wouldn't be stupid.
@guythatmadethisvideo it's called hydrostatic shock, it wont take your head off, but if your shot in the foot the pressure wave can cause brain trauma or even aneurisms. hydrostatic shock was once thought to be a myth until the developement of large caliber magnum rifles, now it's just everyday reality. a good example of this is shooting a watermelon that's sitting on a cinderblock, water in the melon transfers the shockwave to the cinderblock and crushes it without directly hitting it.
@psychoclown420 a barret isnt 10 grand?? wtf crack r u smokin there man, ive seen them from 2,500 to 5,000$ idk where u got ur info from but its fucked
@FuzorDragon480 The name of the cartridge. and technically its not trex, its just .577 Tyrannosaur.. The rifle is an A-Square Hannibal. a-squareco (dot) com
@GUNNY89 Is it legal in Texas?! Holy shit.....Are you serious? I live in Norway and here i don't think you can own a 577-T-Rex legal. But i don't know. My biggest rifles is in caliber 30-06 and 8mm Mauser.
Den er lovlig til jakt her i norge men du vil nok kansje skrive afrika jakt på søknaden. Er usikker på 20mm, da det ikke er spesifisert i våpenloven noen restriksjoner annet enn at 50bmg har blitt ulovelig. Men dette er da opp til ditt lokale lensmannskontor å avgjøre;)
@kaioystein Ja, du kan få den godkjent til jakt i Afrika, men ikke til jakt i Norge. Og du bør stå på godfot med politiet. Har hørt at det er slik her i Norge: Du kan ikke jakte med kaliber større enn 12,7mm men du kan få større kalibre godkjente dersom du skal på Aftika-jakt og et såpass stort kaliber kreves. Men tviler på at du har lov til å bruke våpenet til jakt i Norge.
it will anialate a man not put em down it will more like shoot him in the center of his palm and blow his hole shoulder arms and head off! i would still rather take a 50 bmg for accuracy, scope options, sexy look, and more distance... lol lets go scout and snipe an elephant from 1k yards! shouldnt be that hard its a friken elephant!
i believe they are all but one off custom, you may be able to find a used one MAYBEE, but probably not. they are commission pieces not production (same with ammo i believe)
either ebay or find a hunting store or a web site wich allows you to buy one but you must have a gun licenece and buy 10 bullets cause you can refill them
dont you know decimals? .50 is smaller than .577 and .700 plus the .577 has a bigger bullet its like comparing a semi(.577) versus a school bus(.50) theyre both big and fast but the semi is heavier
Barrett M99 .50 is all you need for big game hunting. Same price, I could imagine ammunition is significantly cheaper, and the Barrett is ALOT easier on the body actually making it enjoyable to shoot
Unlike most large cartridges, this cartridge wasnt designed by a hey-I-can-make-a-big-cartidge gun maker... Art Alphin is a Graduate of West Point with a background in ballistics. He is a retired Colonel from the US Army where he worked in Ballistics for Tank ammunition.. He has extensive field expeirence from MANY safaris in Africa. His company is a full member of SAAMI and his developments carry as much weight as Remington, Federal, Winchester, ect...
yea i thought this cost 100grand..some know it all said that on another vid. i wanna know the expression on the peoples faces who got shot by this beast!lol
in the old days they made a pistol called a howdah pistol. It was like a small short side by side shotgun, but if I recall it shot .577 nitro express. A "howdah" is the cab people ride in on top of an elephant. If a tiger attacked, and the rifle failed, or whatever....you had 2 shots of .577 to stop it. I'm not sure, but I think you could actually fire both of them at one time! BOOOOM!
Why in the hell would U want to use that when U could use an M-107, WAAAAAY less recoil, more power, more accurate(I'm assuming) and a detachable 10 round mag.....
well a .50 BMG 12.7x99mm would take down an elephant faster, sure the .577 isa beast, but the 12.7x99 is about 5% more powerful, and has less recoil due to the muzzle brake.....
Because the design of M107 .50cal bullets is for achieving a high ballistic coefficient (low drag), and it is of a pointed design.
Bullets with pointed designs don't work well when they strike bones as big as an elephant's; they deflect. The bullets made for the .577 are designed to smash bone and stay on course. It is not total energy they need -- it is a correct bullet design. Accuracy is of lesser concern as well, as most dangerous game shots are 15-50 yards on a large target.
well that may be (I've never hunted elephants) but I'd sure as hell feel comfortable with the .50 BMG, cuz the .577 would have way more recoil, and U can handload those "Bone Smashing" bullets in the .50 BMG and probably get about the same ballistics, if not a hair better than the .577..... plus the semi-auto action would let U have follow-up shots, sumthing that close-range elephant hunters would most likely benefit from!!!
No, you wouldn't feel more comfortable with a 50BMG. Actually you would feel like an idiot, and your guides would think you were one.
Try carrying a 30lb gun around on an 8 mile safari walk and see how well you can shoulder your 50BMG at that point. Chances are you will fall over.
These guns recoil huge because they weigh very little. 13lbs is usually the heaviest you will take on safari. We big-bore shooters don't care about recoil, as it isn't on our mind when we pull the trigger.
no, I like recoil too, my point was that its a more powerful round, and has less recoil... seems kinda pointless to have more recoil and less power...and the one I wuz looking at weighed 32 pounds, about 35-36 loaded lol but I could carry it if I wanted too, and since U like short-blunt bullets, have U thought about the .50 Beowulf? Its kinda weak for elephants, but a 400 Grain bullet at 1,800 FPS isn't too shabby, and in an AR platform would only weigh 8, maybe 9 pounds, MAX! just an idea...
Billson, I think you have the right intentions, you just have no experience here in the way you look at this. Take kindly to what I say please.
32-36lbs is incredibly heavy to carry around. We could all do it if we had to, but it is completely unnecessary and believe it or not, you would be endangering yourself more because of it being harder to aim quickly when the time comes.
They are essentially pushing these guns to the max recoil which can be handled at the weight they are at.
In fact, many of these guns could be pushed WAY farther, well beyond 50BMG levels. There is a 700HE belted straight-wall, similar to the 700NE, and it can get over 22,000ft-lbs with 1000gr bullets. But it would take a 40lb gun to handle that, so it is loaded at far less power.
The fact is that kind of energy isn't needed. Elephant can be taken with only 5000ft-lbs and less sufficiently. It's just that some guys want to hammer them harder, with lightweight guns they can carry all around.
And the .50 Beowulf would actually be horrible on elephant. It would probably not even get past bone if it hit any. 400grs is just too light at .50 caliber, especially at only 1800fps. It is too wide and slows down quickly at 400grs. 600grs would be a lot better and penetrate farther at 50 caliber, but it would still be moving too slow from that cartridge.
There is a semi-auto that would work on safari. People convert the military-type M14s to 458Win Mag. Now those are neat.
yea, I don't like the .50 Beowulf either, just putting it out there, I'll just stick with my M16, its light, and sure I couldn't humanely take an elephant with it, but then again, I shouldn't hav to defend myself against elephants where I live, LOL
I'm guessing your only experience with .50 BMG rifles are military weapons (like the Barrett). If you look at these firearms, all of them have very efficient muzzle brakes attached to the front of the gun, which greatly diminishes felt recoil.
In addition, it is physically impossible-and by that I mean the laws of physics won't allow it (see Newton's 2nd law)-to have a rifle with more power and less recoil.
well yea, if the rifles were the same, the more powerful one would hav more recoil, but they aren't the same, and like U said urself the muzzle brake is VERY effective, and reduces up to 70% of felt recoil last I checked, and also remember that the action of the barrett reduces some recoil too (semi auto) and I've never shot a .577, but I'm almost positive from watching people fire it that its got WAY more recoil (due to lack of a muzzle brake) just my 2 cents ;)
Most statistics for the 50 BMG are from the standard 44 inch MG barrel. When you put the 50 BMG is the same rifle as the .577 tyran, your going to get similar performance; however, the .577 bullet is designed for stopping large game. The 50BMG bullet is designed to minimize drag.
well, the figures I was looking at were for the 29-inch M82/M107s and the cartridge isn't what takes the game, its the bullet! U could handload the BMG with whatever bullet U wanted too.....
Ok, lets load the 50 BMG with a 600 grain round nose solid, chop the barrel to a reasonable 24 inches and loose the muzzle brake - cant have that on a hunting rifle as it would bust your eardrums. So, what we end up with is a 12ish pound rifle chambered in 50 BMG with velocities somewhere around 2500 fps?? which is what the 500 A-square does without the extra-super long action necessary for the BMG. When the LONG barrel needed to burn all that powder is taken away, you dont have much left.
well, either caliber will pop your eardrums with or without a muzzle brake so just wear hearing protection, and yea, a 600 grain bullet out of a 24 inch tube would be 25 to 2600 ish.....
If barrel length is changed, then your cartridge load will change. If you put the 50 BMG into a manageable hunting rifle, a dumb idea, firstly, you would use a faster burning, extruded powder. With a 600 grain bullet, the 50 BMG, even with a barrel around 25 inches, will produce over 3,000 fps of velocity with a 600 Grn jacketed bullet. The 50 BMG as a cartridge outperforms the 500 A-square in every single aspect. However, the recoil is too much to put into a 12 lb uncomped rifle.
no, you would burst the barrel with that.. besides the 577 is pushing 750 grain bullet. The .50 BMG is an upscale 30-06, and needs the longer (44 inch) barrel to produce those velocities. Just as a tank barrel is WAY longer than a rifle barrel.
The Tyrannosaur might be able to handle more massive bullets on account of its greater bore diameter, but its velocity with that 750 grain bullet is under 2500 fps. If you look at 50 cal benchrest competitors, they are pushing 600 grain bullets over 3,000 fps out of 30 inch barrel rifles, but most prefer heavier loads, such as an 800 grain bullet, traveling at over 2600 fps (check Action Gun Works).
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123110gunner 5 months ago
Is it just me, or does that bullet look like it's designed specifically to hunt main battle tanks?
flashn00b 5 months ago
.......... : O
rebelsks 6 months ago
I know this is probably a silly thought because I'm sure this rifle is of top notch construction....but could you imagine firing this thing, the bolt failing and flying into your eye socket at 2000 fps? It looks soooo small to handle the pressure of that round. Still, I'd love the opportunity to dislocate my shoulder firing it.
HauptmannAmerica 7 months ago
shooting it with onehand is probably dumb..
jeppewie1206 7 months ago
@jeppewie1206 except for Chuck Norris. He fires two of them, one in each hand.
orlandotech 2 months ago
all people that drink any kind of alcohol are losers that dont care about their health..
grits1863 7 months ago
@grits1863
alcohol is for losers
Keep up the good work, my friend!
steroidsR4losers 7 months ago
this guy looks like Tom from office space
kristomight 8 months ago
@kristomight lmao!!! he does!! Its a mat with conclusions you can ...... jump to
GTILOUD 8 months ago
He sounds like Microsoft Sam.
IlyaSPARTAN108 10 months ago 26
"You could see the look of suprise on the buffalo's face before he fell over." Awesome. Great job.
Sardarkar 10 months ago
I'd get one to shoot hippies with. If I ran out of ammo I'd just club them to death.
mugsy32 10 months ago
The guy on the left looks like the guy from the Video Professor ads on TV.
Bobaklives 10 months ago
OMG! It's headed right for us!
retsaoter 10 months ago
useless
bahrainTVchannel 11 months ago
5-10 bux for a single round of .577 and only 2.50-3 bux for a round of 50cal. i'll take the 50 any day of the week.
turboboy0 1 year ago
Shit you could kill someone with the back of the gun
Tegeler26 1 year ago
yet a 50bmg is still much more powerful
Pageyindahouse 1 year ago
@Pageyindahouse .577 T-rex 750gr has 10,240 foot pounds of energy from a 26 inch barrel. .50 BMG 750gr has 13,241 foot pounds of energy but from a 45 inch barrel. I think they would have about the same amount of energy if they both were fired from 26 inch barrels. The .50 BMG might have a little bit more, though.
KalashnikovKid762 6 months ago
I took down a charging panda bear with one of these guns.Saved my life.
modwickman 1 year ago 5
this rife heeds a vented to have less recoil but still have the same power
catfishhunter2012 1 year ago
@catfishhunter2012 muzzle brake, forward weighted stock, and a couple other accessory's, and you could MAYBE get the recoil down some more. Its still gonna kick like a mule on methamphetamine.
willlittell 11 months ago
mommy can i have a .577 T-Rex for Christmas
mitchellman95 1 year ago
@mitchellman95 You'll shoot your eye out kid!
CriticallyInsane 1 year ago
home defense... In case you have a malfunctioning time machine...
dogboy0912 1 year ago
100 million bucks is very affordable for a nuke given its magnitude....
WordsofWisdom2010 1 year ago
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It would be too expensive to outfit the troops, with this weapon. It is also a hunting weapon, not made for modern day combat appications.
ld8able 1 year ago
It would be too expensive to outfit the troops, with this weapon. It is also a hunting weapon, nit made for modern day combat appications.
ld8able 1 year ago
send it to the troops
MrGhandi1994 1 year ago
@MrGhandi1994
Be useless to troops, they wouldn't be able to use it
FraggingBard 1 year ago
psychoclown420 is your typical dumbass that compares the knowlege in the video to information he aquired from a videogame, meerly because the barret 50 cal is (what he thinks) is the most powerful weapon used in videogames, these two rifles cannot be compared because-
A. This rifle isnt intended as a sniper rifle.
B. The barret m82 is a semi automatic sniper rifle while this is a bolt action
C. The barret m82 is made of metal, and composite, while this rifle is made of metal and WOOD
yesssigotmail 1 year ago 4
@yesssigotmail
"merely"
Semi vs bolt action isn't usually considered unless beyond ranges of 1200 metres.
What a rifle is made of doesn't really come into it either, unless you're going through a cost chart for the defense forces. Comparing a semi composite to a wooden bolt is fine. In an army scenario, comparing a Barret M107 to a PGM Hecate II wouldn't be stupid.
FraggingBard 1 year ago
if u got shot in the foot with this... it ould take ur head off
guythatmadethisvideo 1 year ago 56
@guythatmadethisvideo it's called hydrostatic shock, it wont take your head off, but if your shot in the foot the pressure wave can cause brain trauma or even aneurisms. hydrostatic shock was once thought to be a myth until the developement of large caliber magnum rifles, now it's just everyday reality. a good example of this is shooting a watermelon that's sitting on a cinderblock, water in the melon transfers the shockwave to the cinderblock and crushes it without directly hitting it.
drewnickel 8 months ago
4,400 is a great price considering a barrett .50 cal usually goes in the neighborhood of 10,000
psychoclown420 1 year ago
@psychoclown420 a barret isnt 10 grand?? wtf crack r u smokin there man, ive seen them from 2,500 to 5,000$ idk where u got ur info from but its fucked
dieter023 1 year ago
@dieter023 A brand new barret 50 caliber rifle is 10,000 to 15,000$ new.
DevinRAR 1 year ago
@DevinRAR wrong!! i can get one for 4 grand easily. semi auto
domiNATEshots12 1 year ago
@domiNATEshots12 Great. Buy one and come resell it in kentucky.
DevinRAR 1 year ago
So cool.
USN1985 1 year ago
is .577 t-rex the name of the cartridge,or the rifle?
FuzorDragon480 1 year ago
@FuzorDragon480 The name of the cartridge. and technically its not trex, its just .577 Tyrannosaur.. The rifle is an A-Square Hannibal. a-squareco (dot) com
hwoods01 1 year ago
its called a lahti 20mm
golfer15963 2 years ago
No. A 577 T-Rex have the bullet diameter 14.9 mm. The Lahti have the bullet diameter 20mm.
This is a hunting rifle.
The Lahti is a anti tank rifle.
laksemann 1 year ago
@laksemann Are you saying you can't hunt with a 20? :-P
EVictoryIV 1 year ago
@EVictoryIV You can hunt with a 20mm, but it is NOT legal, so don't do that if you have a 20mm.
laksemann 1 year ago
@laksemann in texas it is legal but a waste of the game
GUNNY89 1 year ago
@GUNNY89 Is it legal in Texas?! Holy shit.....Are you serious? I live in Norway and here i don't think you can own a 577-T-Rex legal. But i don't know. My biggest rifles is in caliber 30-06 and 8mm Mauser.
laksemann 1 year ago
Den er lovlig til jakt her i norge men du vil nok kansje skrive afrika jakt på søknaden. Er usikker på 20mm, da det ikke er spesifisert i våpenloven noen restriksjoner annet enn at 50bmg har blitt ulovelig. Men dette er da opp til ditt lokale lensmannskontor å avgjøre;)
kaioystein 1 year ago
@kaioystein Ja, du kan få den godkjent til jakt i Afrika, men ikke til jakt i Norge. Og du bør stå på godfot med politiet. Har hørt at det er slik her i Norge: Du kan ikke jakte med kaliber større enn 12,7mm men du kan få større kalibre godkjente dersom du skal på Aftika-jakt og et såpass stort kaliber kreves. Men tviler på at du har lov til å bruke våpenet til jakt i Norge.
laksemann 1 year ago
@laksemann Technically, its a stopping rifle. ;)
hwoods01 1 year ago
@hwoods01 Yes, it is : ) Buffalo stopper!
laksemann 1 year ago
You see the video of the kick on this thing? Managable? by who the hulk? lol Holy fuck this gun is a beast.
hotdog2020 2 years ago
that'll put a man down. haha
poyanator 2 years ago
it will anialate a man not put em down it will more like shoot him in the center of his palm and blow his hole shoulder arms and head off! i would still rather take a 50 bmg for accuracy, scope options, sexy look, and more distance... lol lets go scout and snipe an elephant from 1k yards! shouldnt be that hard its a friken elephant!
golfer15963 2 years ago
true dat fuck peta. punk bitches fucking with my sports
StupidKunt09 2 years ago
PETA should be (P)eople (E)ating (T)asty (A)nimals
SilenceOfTheDream 2 years ago 2
ROFL! nice
poyanator 2 years ago
lol xD
pombenenge 1 year ago
Fuck peta dude. We arent commercially killing wild animals, its sport. Go fuck yourself.
skater4nater 2 years ago 2
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I support the killing of anything, including PETA! XD
Rozzrocks666 2 years ago 53
Hahah fuck yea bro! Let's meet up and go hunt some fucking whales with a bowie knife, take it to the fuckin extreme!
skater4nater 2 years ago 2
Fuck it, lets nuke the bastards!
Rozzrocks666 2 years ago
@Rozzrocks666 haah
domiNATEshots12 1 year ago
where i can buy this weapon?
LOOOL58 2 years ago
shoot ill take the old .50-90 against one of them any day
SnipinRedneck43 2 years ago
see how suprised he looks when i shoot him with that beast
dutchfreaker 2 years ago
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Fuck you old white men, let's hunt you for a change!
moddit 2 years ago
Go eat your granola in your mommie's basement, PETA lover.
orion2ktc 2 years ago 4
fuck PETA
moddit 2 years ago
were can i buy one of them rifles and ammo
firewoodguy2009 2 years ago
i believe they are all but one off custom, you may be able to find a used one MAYBEE, but probably not. they are commission pieces not production (same with ammo i believe)
agskennedy 2 years ago
either ebay or find a hunting store or a web site wich allows you to buy one but you must have a gun licenece and buy 10 bullets cause you can refill them
zooloo129 2 years ago
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Another bullshit from dump jenks... Try to hit a moskito with an antitank cannon, that would be a fun, jackasses!
gergely007 2 years ago
the .50 bmg round tops the .577 and the .700 nitrio express............ Hands down
313817 2 years ago
dont you know decimals? .50 is smaller than .577 and .700 plus the .577 has a bigger bullet its like comparing a semi(.577) versus a school bus(.50) theyre both big and fast but the semi is heavier
xBADxB4NDITOx 2 years ago
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Syrecc 2 years ago
kinetic energy.........its not the size of the round that counts genius. Its how much energy is generated with the round.
313817 2 years ago
witch is effected by the weight and size! you tard
xBADxB4NDITOx 2 years ago
Field Research? Investigate Further. Then type.
313817 2 years ago
who said any thing about field research? its common sense if its bigger it will make a bigger hole
xBADxB4NDITOx 2 years ago
so a 32acp is better than a 223 ehh
christlubas 2 years ago 2
and the m82 is semi-auto!
BenHBX 2 years ago
True, but there are precious few hunting-designed bullets and a thirty pound rifle isn't exactly easy to swing around to a charging elephant.
HackCausality 1 year ago
700 nitro express is better.
yoyoma102 2 years ago
This gun is unnecessary...
Barrett M99 .50 is all you need for big game hunting. Same price, I could imagine ammunition is significantly cheaper, and the Barrett is ALOT easier on the body actually making it enjoyable to shoot
iGOTCHOPPERS1 2 years ago
this is better
Oxstayne 2 years ago
God forbid you need something portable...
stealthbeast 2 years ago
i agree because i personally am saving up to get an m99 but its one of those things you want to say you have not for use
xBADxB4NDITOx 2 years ago
wow what shitty audio quality...
fibreoptik 2 years ago
Unlike most large cartridges, this cartridge wasnt designed by a hey-I-can-make-a-big-cartidge gun maker... Art Alphin is a Graduate of West Point with a background in ballistics. He is a retired Colonel from the US Army where he worked in Ballistics for Tank ammunition.. He has extensive field expeirence from MANY safaris in Africa. His company is a full member of SAAMI and his developments carry as much weight as Remington, Federal, Winchester, ect...
hwoods01 2 years ago
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you are very sick & vomiing persons,
all of you are fucking insane. i hope all your bullets fell off in your heads.
fucking bastards
maxiastillero 2 years ago
yea i thought this cost 100grand..some know it all said that on another vid. i wanna know the expression on the peoples faces who got shot by this beast!lol
dolamike584 3 years ago
whoopee, now we can really kill them damned elephants.
6y298 3 years ago
Thats not the point.
hwoods01 3 years ago
$4400, not bad.
SirVictory 3 years ago
LOL "you could see the look of surprise on the buffalo's face before he fell over"
VentriloRoboHawk 3 years ago 4
$4,400 is very affordable for a rifle of that magnitude.
PigHunter375 3 years ago 48
@PigHunter375 How come the pfeifer zeliska revolver in like 12k????
gunut4 1 year ago
@PigHunter375 4,000!!! i could get a barret m107 .50cal for only 1,000
tractorman96 1 year ago
@tractorman96 No, it costs $10,000
Look it up
Xgendude14 1 year ago
@Xgendude14 at my local gun dealer there was a barret m107 for $1,000, im pretty sure or i misread the tag
tractorman96 1 year ago
@tractorman96 Yeaaaa... Surely you did lol
BALSACTHEWARRIOR 1 year ago
@tractorman96 my gun store sells them for $4,410 dollars but it costs 5-10 bucks for a single round
MrAlexStephens 1 year ago
in the old days they made a pistol called a howdah pistol. It was like a small short side by side shotgun, but if I recall it shot .577 nitro express. A "howdah" is the cab people ride in on top of an elephant. If a tiger attacked, and the rifle failed, or whatever....you had 2 shots of .577 to stop it. I'm not sure, but I think you could actually fire both of them at one time! BOOOOM!
econoroller 3 years ago
if you were to fire 577 nitro express out of a pistol it would surely break your hand ... if that gun is real i would be afraid to even hold it lol
goebbles1215 3 years ago
Some guy out there made a custom TC Contender pistol in 600 Nitro Express.
RebelWrestler45 3 years ago
i will order one of this gun...
kiraemanuel 3 years ago
u shoot some1 with that all thats left will probably be dust
degreek 3 years ago
what? no, there would be a person left, only with a big hole in them, since when does and elephant rifle become a ray-gun?
billson556 3 years ago
Why in the hell would U want to use that when U could use an M-107, WAAAAAY less recoil, more power, more accurate(I'm assuming) and a detachable 10 round mag.....
billson556 3 years ago
Because this is for an Elephant and the M107 is intended for Military Use only.
Adrianyoungxx 3 years ago
well a .50 BMG 12.7x99mm would take down an elephant faster, sure the .577 isa beast, but the 12.7x99 is about 5% more powerful, and has less recoil due to the muzzle brake.....
billson556 3 years ago
Then compare the price. Good Luck getting a M107 even if you're in LE.
Adrianyoungxx 3 years ago
Because the design of M107 .50cal bullets is for achieving a high ballistic coefficient (low drag), and it is of a pointed design.
Bullets with pointed designs don't work well when they strike bones as big as an elephant's; they deflect. The bullets made for the .577 are designed to smash bone and stay on course. It is not total energy they need -- it is a correct bullet design. Accuracy is of lesser concern as well, as most dangerous game shots are 15-50 yards on a large target.
jr9950 3 years ago
well that may be (I've never hunted elephants) but I'd sure as hell feel comfortable with the .50 BMG, cuz the .577 would have way more recoil, and U can handload those "Bone Smashing" bullets in the .50 BMG and probably get about the same ballistics, if not a hair better than the .577..... plus the semi-auto action would let U have follow-up shots, sumthing that close-range elephant hunters would most likely benefit from!!!
billson556 3 years ago
No, you wouldn't feel more comfortable with a 50BMG. Actually you would feel like an idiot, and your guides would think you were one.
Try carrying a 30lb gun around on an 8 mile safari walk and see how well you can shoulder your 50BMG at that point. Chances are you will fall over.
These guns recoil huge because they weigh very little. 13lbs is usually the heaviest you will take on safari. We big-bore shooters don't care about recoil, as it isn't on our mind when we pull the trigger.
jr9950 3 years ago
no, I like recoil too, my point was that its a more powerful round, and has less recoil... seems kinda pointless to have more recoil and less power...and the one I wuz looking at weighed 32 pounds, about 35-36 loaded lol but I could carry it if I wanted too, and since U like short-blunt bullets, have U thought about the .50 Beowulf? Its kinda weak for elephants, but a 400 Grain bullet at 1,800 FPS isn't too shabby, and in an AR platform would only weigh 8, maybe 9 pounds, MAX! just an idea...
billson556 3 years ago
Billson, I think you have the right intentions, you just have no experience here in the way you look at this. Take kindly to what I say please.
32-36lbs is incredibly heavy to carry around. We could all do it if we had to, but it is completely unnecessary and believe it or not, you would be endangering yourself more because of it being harder to aim quickly when the time comes.
They are essentially pushing these guns to the max recoil which can be handled at the weight they are at.
jr9950 3 years ago
In fact, many of these guns could be pushed WAY farther, well beyond 50BMG levels. There is a 700HE belted straight-wall, similar to the 700NE, and it can get over 22,000ft-lbs with 1000gr bullets. But it would take a 40lb gun to handle that, so it is loaded at far less power.
The fact is that kind of energy isn't needed. Elephant can be taken with only 5000ft-lbs and less sufficiently. It's just that some guys want to hammer them harder, with lightweight guns they can carry all around.
jr9950 3 years ago
And the .50 Beowulf would actually be horrible on elephant. It would probably not even get past bone if it hit any. 400grs is just too light at .50 caliber, especially at only 1800fps. It is too wide and slows down quickly at 400grs. 600grs would be a lot better and penetrate farther at 50 caliber, but it would still be moving too slow from that cartridge.
There is a semi-auto that would work on safari. People convert the military-type M14s to 458Win Mag. Now those are neat.
jr9950 3 years ago
yea, I don't like the .50 Beowulf either, just putting it out there, I'll just stick with my M16, its light, and sure I couldn't humanely take an elephant with it, but then again, I shouldn't hav to defend myself against elephants where I live, LOL
billson556 3 years ago
I'm guessing your only experience with .50 BMG rifles are military weapons (like the Barrett). If you look at these firearms, all of them have very efficient muzzle brakes attached to the front of the gun, which greatly diminishes felt recoil.
In addition, it is physically impossible-and by that I mean the laws of physics won't allow it (see Newton's 2nd law)-to have a rifle with more power and less recoil.
skyoon 3 years ago
well yea, if the rifles were the same, the more powerful one would hav more recoil, but they aren't the same, and like U said urself the muzzle brake is VERY effective, and reduces up to 70% of felt recoil last I checked, and also remember that the action of the barrett reduces some recoil too (semi auto) and I've never shot a .577, but I'm almost positive from watching people fire it that its got WAY more recoil (due to lack of a muzzle brake) just my 2 cents ;)
billson556 3 years ago
Most statistics for the 50 BMG are from the standard 44 inch MG barrel. When you put the 50 BMG is the same rifle as the .577 tyran, your going to get similar performance; however, the .577 bullet is designed for stopping large game. The 50BMG bullet is designed to minimize drag.
hwoods01 3 years ago
well, the figures I was looking at were for the 29-inch M82/M107s and the cartridge isn't what takes the game, its the bullet! U could handload the BMG with whatever bullet U wanted too.....
billson556 3 years ago
Ok, lets load the 50 BMG with a 600 grain round nose solid, chop the barrel to a reasonable 24 inches and loose the muzzle brake - cant have that on a hunting rifle as it would bust your eardrums. So, what we end up with is a 12ish pound rifle chambered in 50 BMG with velocities somewhere around 2500 fps?? which is what the 500 A-square does without the extra-super long action necessary for the BMG. When the LONG barrel needed to burn all that powder is taken away, you dont have much left.
hwoods01 3 years ago
well, either caliber will pop your eardrums with or without a muzzle brake so just wear hearing protection, and yea, a 600 grain bullet out of a 24 inch tube would be 25 to 2600 ish.....
billson556 3 years ago
Fella, take the muffs off and compare.
hwoods01 3 years ago
If barrel length is changed, then your cartridge load will change. If you put the 50 BMG into a manageable hunting rifle, a dumb idea, firstly, you would use a faster burning, extruded powder. With a 600 grain bullet, the 50 BMG, even with a barrel around 25 inches, will produce over 3,000 fps of velocity with a 600 Grn jacketed bullet. The 50 BMG as a cartridge outperforms the 500 A-square in every single aspect. However, the recoil is too much to put into a 12 lb uncomped rifle.
RebelWrestler45 3 years ago
so would the 577 tyan. but you can hold and shoot the tyran.
hwoods01 3 years ago
no, you would burst the barrel with that.. besides the 577 is pushing 750 grain bullet. The .50 BMG is an upscale 30-06, and needs the longer (44 inch) barrel to produce those velocities. Just as a tank barrel is WAY longer than a rifle barrel.
hwoods01 2 years ago
The Tyrannosaur might be able to handle more massive bullets on account of its greater bore diameter, but its velocity with that 750 grain bullet is under 2500 fps. If you look at 50 cal benchrest competitors, they are pushing 600 grain bullets over 3,000 fps out of 30 inch barrel rifles, but most prefer heavier loads, such as an 800 grain bullet, traveling at over 2600 fps (check Action Gun Works).
RebelWrestler45 2 years ago
nerd
fibreoptik 2 years ago
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Did he just say that bullet was 750 grande
dragonsmercy99 3 years ago
750 Grain. About the same weight as a .50BMG
A bog standard .30-06 is around 150 Grains.
Evilliboba 3 years ago
beautiful, absolutly beautiful rifle. I have recently place my very own order for this hannibal model rifle in .577 t-rex.
SrpskiMetak 3 years ago 2
insane gun
Shanx1337 3 years ago